Ukraine tried to create its own "Terminator"

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Ukrainian artisans from the defense industry made an attempt to copy the Russian BMPT "Teminator-2". To do this, they took the chassis tank T-64 developed in the 60s and mounted the Duplet combat module on it, reports Messenger of Mordovia.

Ukraine tried to create its own "Terminator"




The combat module resembles the Russian one, but only outwardly - “in fact, it is only a miserable parody, since in all respects the characteristic is significantly inferior to the Russian development,” writes the author of the material Dmitry Lemeshko.

“It is equipped with two 30mm cannons, which are pirated from 2A42 cannons. There is also a 7,62 mm machine gun and a 30 mm automatic grenade launcher. They were also roughly torn from Russian products. The use of obsolete Konkurs ATGMs, which are not produced by Ukraine at all, is very surprising. Containers with missiles are not protected by anything,” the article says.



According to military experts, the protection of this module is practically "no". “To understand this, you just need to see the crew hatches in the roof of the module. Their location seems to invite the enemy to focus fire on them,” the author writes.

Sights also have very poor protection.

If Russian BMPTs have hull protection that even surpasses that available on the T-90A tank, then the decisions of the mid-80s were applied on the Ukrainian product: the Soviet Kontakt-1 dynamic protection is not capable of withstanding modern weapons.

“This false “Terminator” in its absurdity can only compete with another fake - “Azovets”, about which they talked so much, but now they are ashamed to remember,” the author concludes.
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  1. +19
    10 October 2017 11: 25
    Why do they need Terminators if they have cyborgs? wassat Apparently, the liquid Terminator will soon appear in Ukraine. laughing
    1. +4
      10 October 2017 11: 27
      Quote: NEXUS
      Why do they need Terminators if they have cyborgs?

      well, where are cyborgs without terminators .....?? .... this is a spike, so to speak ..... belay ...horror....where to run??
      1. +2
        10 October 2017 11: 29
        Is this the only one they have? Can they create more?
      2. +4
        10 October 2017 11: 39
        But what about Tirex or the like? The main thing is to blind from what is not stolen and crow
        .
        Quote: Burbon
        Quote: NEXUS
        Why do they need Terminators if they have cyborgs?

        well, where are cyborgs without terminators .....?? .... this is a spike, so to speak ..... belay ...horror....where to run??
    2. +3
      10 October 2017 11: 36
      what does soon mean? and who's the pig? He's all liquid!
    3. +5
      10 October 2017 11: 38
      So this is not the "Terminator" at all! This is Kibonutor!!! laughing
    4. +13
      10 October 2017 11: 41
      protection of this module is practically “none”. “To understand this, you just need to see the crew hatches in the roof of the module. Their location, as it were, invites the enemy to concentrate fire on them.
      Another miracle of Yudo, into which the fighters will have to be driven with a stick ...
    5. +2
      11 October 2017 18: 16
      We will not specify what this will be from the "liquid Ukrainian terminator". Although, most likely, from the substance that splashes in the heads of "maydauns"! laughing
  2. +5
    10 October 2017 11: 27
    The Terminator is not a bunch of weapons, it's technology, but Banderlogs have a bunch on tracks.
  3. win
    +3
    10 October 2017 11: 29
    The Chinese used to also blatantly rip off and copy everything. This was the era of the formation of China. Now China is a superpower.
    And Ukraine has no future. The time is approaching for the return of interest on loans that are greater than even the gross domestic product and gold reserves.
    So convulsive attempts to show ourselves that we are wow...
  4. +5
    10 October 2017 11: 30
    Wahahaha! laughing laughing laughing "Dung man -2"?
    Particularly pleasing are the unprotected crew hatches located AT AN ANGLE for a more "residual" (as Poroshenko-Valtsman says) hit. Most likely, DShK and NSVT will easily take it into the hatches of the crew. I am generally silent about ZPU-23 * 2 and 30 mm.
    Verdict: there is nothing on the current ruin that they cannot even plagiarize. The story with the Ukrainian social networks "Ukrainians" repeats itself, although it is normal if the hands of the "Producers" grow out of ... wassat
  5. +2
    10 October 2017 11: 37
    "I blinded him from what was ..." Well, you need to show at least something and prove that the defense industry and technical thought are still working.
  6. +2
    10 October 2017 11: 43
    Bad news in the morning ... The Russian military department said the Su-24 was supposed to make a sortie to carry out a combat mission. But during acceleration, the bomber rolled out of the runway. The crew died without having time to eject
    Earth rest in peace to the heroes ...
  7. +4
    10 October 2017 11: 49
    I wonder what is this "not cotton wool" trying to copy cotton wool so stubbornly? After all, the most correct technique, in their opinion, is in the USA. Why wouldn't Bradley or Stryker do it? Although probably all the cameras from intercoms and garbage containers went to Azovets.
    1. +3
      10 October 2017 12: 10
      Quote: JD1979
      I wonder what is this "not cotton wool" trying to copy cotton wool so stubbornly? After all, the most correct technique, in their opinion, is in the USA. Why wouldn't Bradley or Stryker do it? Although probably all the cameras from intercoms and garbage containers went to Azovets.

      We must immediately copy the "Death Star" from "Star Wars"! Yaka derzhava, still success!
      1. 0
        10 October 2017 14: 28
        Quote: ydjin
        We must immediately copy the "Death Star" from "Star Wars"! Yaka derzhava, still success!

        Too late... quilted jackets have already copied. smile
  8. ZVO
    +6
    10 October 2017 12: 29
    I don't understand the general rant.
    The outskirts created an option for fighting infantry in urban areas.
    Heavy machine guns and small-caliber cannons for shooters in buildings do not hurt much.
    Based on the tank corps, of which they have thousands in storerooms.
    And here the BMPT is unknown.
    1. 0
      10 October 2017 14: 20
      Agree. It is blinded luridly, as, in principle, most of the armored vehicles of the Khokhlat design, and, apparently, so far it has not gone beyond the prototype. But for local conditions, at the very least, it will do. Armament corresponding to the purpose, the tank corps from the T-64 is a completely satisfactory base, and as for the Doublet combat module, it is too early to evaluate it as a failure before it really shows itself in battle. As far as I know, he has not fought yet.
      1. +2
        10 October 2017 16: 27
        You can talk a lot about the obsolescence and inferiority of the Pz-1 at 41m, but for a fighter armed only with a mosquito, it was a terrible enemy. Yes, not as well-armed and armored as the Pz-4, but no less dangerous for that. It's good that 404 cannot now produce armored vehicles in any serious quantities, but any piece of iron they produce is a complication of life for the LDNR. And maybe it's someone's life that will be given.
    2. 0
      10 October 2017 19: 29
      modern battles in the mountains are saturated with anti-tank weapons and heavy machine guns with small-caliber artillery are more than enough, not counting engineering obstacles using mines, for example, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, etc.
      1. 0
        10 October 2017 21: 00
        Yes and no. Well, i.e. in general, everything is correct, but the battles in Syria showed that in a specific situation, a dumbbell with 23-2 can become a decisive argument, and sometimes several tanks are powerless when clearing a quarter. And, so far, no assessment of the actions of our terminators in Syria has been announced. Only indirect: they finally started talking about a possible purchase.
  9. RL
    +1
    10 October 2017 12: 33
    For export, to countries with a small budget and with a military conflict of low intensity - that's it.
    And for yourself, you can also install the APS (Acitve Protection System) Trophy and the RAFAEL RCWS-30 module with ATGMs, which are much better than the "competition".
    So laughter with laughter, but ... Russian "PLEASE" does not help here
  10. +6
    10 October 2017 12: 50
    Very funny.
    And someone will have to target these same hatches from the DShK under fire from just copied 30mm guns. On the chassis of the outdated T-64.
    Total and business.
    1. RL
      +2
      10 October 2017 13: 18
      The Chinese, at first, also copied. And now Russia is in their tail
      1. 0
        11 October 2017 18: 39
        which tail? tanks are essentially the same layout that the Chinese have that Russia has a 125mm gun is also a copy
    2. +3
      10 October 2017 16: 36
      Neighing at such developments, these are, apparently, couch operators of shock drones. I am surprised that there is no criticism about the lack of protection of this sample from attack by its "calibers".
      1. 0
        10 October 2017 18: 31
        against the militias, yes, this is a pretty formidable technique, considering that the militias are armed with both ppsh and ptrd, ptrs, pps, but against a normal army this is nonsense
        1. +1
          10 October 2017 20: 21
          If the army of the LDNR is saturated with relatively modern anti-tank weapons, then it will be possible to laugh at the stupidity of the Ukropov designers. Otherwise, any such development (and even the "garbage can" of Azov) is an increase in losses, which is undesirable.
          Therefore, when I read the information that the brothers have created something ... I am happy for the Belarusians and tense up when it comes to ukrov.
          But not so long ago, we were all together ...
  11. +1
    10 October 2017 13: 15
    So in one instance it will probably dry up.
    1. 0
      10 October 2017 13: 19
      Not likely, but definitely dry. Except how to mold a representative sample from the existing Soviet scrap metal, the Ukrainians are not able to do more.
  12. 0
    10 October 2017 13: 50
    To do this, they took the chassis of the T-64 tank developed in the 60s and mounted ...

    This is where the engineering thought of Ukrainian designers always ended. Then there were the engineering misunderstandings...
  13. +1
    10 October 2017 14: 56
    Quote: Waltasar
    And someone will have to target these same hatches from the DShK under fire from just copied 30mm guns. On the chassis of the outdated T-64.
    Total and business.

    however, the Russian terminator is devoid of these shortcomings
    1. +1
      10 October 2017 16: 54
      Our designers unconditional respect. But our terminator also changed, even before it was released, and it didn’t immediately come to its current appearance (in particular, the appearance of protection for birds). We can talk about why the Khokhols did not take into account our experience, but it is possible that this is a trial design, using ready-made solutions, and it will be finalized for serial production (I hope this will not happen).
      1. +1
        10 October 2017 17: 07
        finalized and will go to kill people in the Donbass!
  14. +2
    10 October 2017 21: 05
    (“It is equipped with two 30 mm cannons, which are pirated from 2A42 cannons. There is also a 7,62 mm machine gun and an automatic 30 mm grenade launcher. They were also roughly torn from Russian products.) as far as I know, and a 30 mm cannon and the grenade launcher and machine gun were developed back in the USSR, what did they copy there, I don’t understand ??? don't overdo it
  15. +1
    10 October 2017 22: 33
    Do not twist, then the war of the 80s, only without aviation and with the active use of UAVs. For these conditions, the car came out tolerable, well, much better than some sort of Azov or whatever.
  16. 0
    11 October 2017 16: 20
    But what about a trash can with eyes from the intercom. Recognized as too powerful and decommissioned so as not to destroy the world.
  17. 0
    11 October 2017 18: 19
    Burn as it is! Something remotely similar, the Ukrainians have not even come close to implementing the BMPT concept. It turned out, roughly speaking, a tank with weapons, like a modern infantry fighting vehicle. Excuse me, what kind of reproductive organ is this necessary for ?! laughing

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