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Ukraine tried to create its own "Terminator"

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Ukrainian artisans from the defense industry made an attempt to copy the Russian BMPT Teminator-2. To do this, they took the chassis tank T-64 development of the 60s and mounted on it a combat module "Duplet", reports Messenger of Mordovia.


Ukraine tried to create its own "Terminator"


The combat module resembles the Russian one, but only externally - "in fact, it is only a pathetic parody, since for all the characteristics are much inferior to the Russian ones," the author of the material Dmitry Lemeshko writes.

“It is equipped with two 30-mm guns, which are pirated from 2-42 guns. An 7,62-mm machine gun and an automatic 30-mm grenade launcher are also available. They are also roughly peredral with Russian products. The use of obsolete anti-tank "Konkurs", which are not produced by Ukraine at all, is very surprising. Containers with missiles are not protected by anything, ”the article says.



According to military experts, the protection of this module is practically “none”. “To understand this, it’s enough just to see the crew hatches in the module’s roof. Their location invites the enemy to focus fire on them, ”the author writes.

Sights also have very poor protection.

If Russian BMPTs have a hull protection superior to even that available on the T-90A tank, then the Ukrainian product uses solutions from the middle of 80-ies: the Soviet dynamic protection Kontakt-1 is not able to withstand modern means of destruction.

"This false" Terminator "in its absurdity can only compete with another fake -" Azovts ", about which they talked so much, but now they are ashamed to recall," the author concludes.
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  1. NEXUS
    NEXUS 10 October 2017 11: 25 New
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    What the hell are the Terminators with if they have cyborgs? wassat Apparently soon the liquid Terminator will appear in Ukraine. laughing
    1. Burbon
      Burbon 10 October 2017 11: 27 New
      +4
      Quote: NEXUS
      What the hell are the Terminators with if they have cyborgs?

      well, so where are cyborgs without terminators ..... ?? .... .... this is spike ..... belay ... horror .... where to run ??
      1. The_lancet
        The_lancet 10 October 2017 11: 29 New
        +2
        Is this their only sample? Can they create more?
      2. 210ox
        210ox 10 October 2017 11: 39 New
        +4
        But what about Tirex or the like? The main thing is to blind from what is not stolen and to crow
        .
        Quote: Burbon
        Quote: NEXUS
        What the hell are the Terminators with if they have cyborgs?

        well, so where are cyborgs without terminators ..... ?? .... .... this is spike ..... belay ... horror .... where to run ??
    2. novel66
      novel66 10 October 2017 11: 36 New
      +3
      what does it mean soon? and who is it? he's all liquid!
    3. BMP-2
      BMP-2 10 October 2017 11: 38 New
      +5
      So this is not a "Terminator" at all! This is Kibonutor !!! laughing
    4. Samaritan
      Samaritan 10 October 2017 11: 41 New
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      protection of this module is practically “none”. “To understand this, just see the crew hatches in the module roof. Their location, as it were, invites the enemy to focus fire on them. ”
      Another miracle of yudo, in which the fighters will need to be driven with a stick ...
    5. Grach-25sm
      Grach-25sm 11 October 2017 18: 16 New
      +2
      We will not specify what it will be from the "liquid Ukrainian terminator." Although, most likely, from the substance that splashes in the minds of the “maydauns”! laughing
  2. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 10 October 2017 11: 27 New
    +5
    Terminator is not a bunch of weapons, it's technology, but banderlogs have a bunch of tracks.
  3. win
    win 10 October 2017 11: 29 New
    +3
    The Chinese used to brazenly rip and copy everything too. This was the era of the formation of China. Now China is a superpower.
    But Ukraine has no future. Loan interest is approaching, which is more than even gross domestic product and gold reserves.
    So frantic attempts to show ourselves that we are still hoo ...
  4. Now we are free
    Now we are free 10 October 2017 11: 30 New
    +5
    Wahahaha! laughing laughing laughing "Navozets -2"?
    Especially pleasing is the unprotected crew hatches located ANGLE for a more “Residual” (as Poroshenko-Waltzman says) hits. Most likely, it will be easy to take DShK and NSVT into the crew’s hatches. About ZPU-23 * 2 and 30 mm in general I am silent.
    Verdict: there is nothing on the current ruin that they cannot even produce plagiarism. The story with the Ukrainian social networks "Ukrainians" is repeated, although it is normal if the hands of the "Producers" grow from ... wassat
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 10 October 2017 11: 37 New
    +2
    "I blinded him from what was ..." Well, you need to at least show something and prove that the defense industry and technical thought are still working.
  6. loki565
    loki565 10 October 2017 11: 43 New
    +2
    In the morning, the bad news ... The Russian military department reported that the Su-24 was supposed to fly to perform a combat mission. But during dispersal, the bomber rolled out of the runway. The crew died before they could eject
    Earth rest in peace to the heroes ...
  7. JD1979
    JD1979 10 October 2017 11: 49 New
    +4
    Interestingly, what is this “not cotton wool” so persistently trying to copy cotton wool? After all, the most correct technique in their opinion is in the USA. What would this "Bradley" or "Stryker" not do? Although probably all the cameras from the intercoms and garbage containers went to Azovets.
    1. ydjin
      ydjin 10 October 2017 12: 10 New
      +3
      Quote: JD1979
      Interestingly, what is this “not cotton wool” so persistently trying to copy cotton wool? After all, the most correct technique in their opinion is in the USA. What would this "Bradley" or "Stryker" not do? Although probably all the cameras from the intercoms and garbage containers went to Azovets.

      You must immediately copy the "Death Star" from "Star Wars"! Yaka Derzhava, success!
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 10 October 2017 14: 28 New
        0
        Quote: ydjin
        You must immediately copy the "Death Star" from "Star Wars"! Yaka Derzhava, success!

        Late ... quilted jackets have already been copied. smile
  8. ZVO
    ZVO 10 October 2017 12: 29 New
    +6
    I do not understand universal ernichanie.
    The outskirts created an option for the fight against infantry in urban areas.
    The heavy machine guns and small-caliber guns of the shooters in the buildings did not hurt even a lot.
    Based on the tank corps, of which there are thousands of them in the vaults.
    And here BMPT is unknown.
    1. ketchow
      ketchow 10 October 2017 14: 20 New
      0
      I agree. It is blindedly coarse, as, in principle, most of the hohlak’s armored vehicles, and, apparently, so far the prototype has not gone further. But for the local conditions at least fit. Armament appropriate to the purpose, the tank corps from the T-64 - quite a satisfactory base, and as for the combat module "Doublet", it is too early to evaluate it as a failure before it actually shows itself in battle. As far as I know, he has not fought yet.
      1. volodimer
        volodimer 10 October 2017 16: 27 New
        +2
        You can talk a lot about the obsolescence and inferiority of the Pz-1 at 41m, but for a fighter armed only with a mosquito, it was a terrible enemy. Yes, not as well-armed and armored as the Pz-4, but this is no less dangerous. It’s good that 404 can’t produce armored vehicles in any serious quantities now, but any piece of iron they made is a complication of life for LDNR. And perhaps this is someone's life to be given.
    2. Igorec
      Igorec 10 October 2017 19: 29 New
      0
      modern battles in the mountains of the building are saturated with anti-tank weapons and heavy machine guns with small-caliber art more than enough apart from engineering barriers using mines example Syria Iraq Yemen and so on
      1. volodimer
        volodimer 10 October 2017 21: 00 New
        0
        Yes and no. Well i.e. in general, that’s all right, but the battles in Syria showed that in a particular situation, a dumbbell with 23-2 can be a decisive argument, and sometimes several tanks are powerless when stripping a block. And while the assessment of the actions of our terminators in Syria has not been voiced. Only indirect: finally they started talking about a possible purchase.
  9. RL
    RL 10 October 2017 12: 33 New
    +1
    For export, to countries with a small budget and with a military conflict of low intensity - that’s it.
    And for yourself, you can also install the APS (Acitve Protection System) Trophy and the RAFAEL RCWS-30 module with power supplies, which are much better than the "competition".
    So laughter, laughter, but ... the Russian "AVOS" does not help here
  10. Waltasar
    Waltasar 10 October 2017 12: 50 New
    +6
    Very funny.
    And someone will have to heal from the DShK these same hatches under fire with just copied 30mm guns. On the chassis of the obsolete T-64.
    Total and business.
    1. RL
      RL 10 October 2017 13: 18 New
      +2
      The Chinese, at first, also copied. And now Russia is in their tail
      1. Vadim Kurbatov
        Vadim Kurbatov 11 October 2017 18: 39 New
        0
        in which tail? the tanks are essentially the same layout as the Chinese that Russia’s 125mm gun is also a copy
    2. volodimer
      volodimer 10 October 2017 16: 36 New
      +3
      Laughing over such developments, these are apparently sofa shock drone operators. I am surprised that there is no criticism about the lack of protection of this sample from attack by its "calibers".
      1. Graz
        Graz 10 October 2017 18: 31 New
        0
        against the militias, yes, this is a pretty formidable technique, considering that the militias have in their arsenal both PPSh and PTRD, PTRS, PPS, but against a normal army this is nonsense
        1. volodimer
          volodimer 10 October 2017 20: 21 New
          +1
          If the LDNR army is saturated with relatively modern anti-tank weapons, then it will be possible to make fun of the dodges of Ukropov’s designers. Otherwise, any such development (and even the "garbage can" of Azov) will increase losses, which is undesirable.
          Therefore, when I read the Old, that the brothers created something ... I am happy for the Belarusians and I strain when it comes to ukrov.
          But not so long ago, we were all together ...
  11. sgr291158
    sgr291158 10 October 2017 13: 15 New
    +1
    So in one instance it will probably dry up.
    1. Lganhi
      Lganhi 10 October 2017 13: 19 New
      0
      Not sure, but surely wither. In addition to creating a model of existing Soviet scrap metal, Ukrainians are no longer able to do it.
  12. Berkut24
    Berkut24 10 October 2017 13: 50 New
    0
    To do this, they took the chassis of the T-64 tank of the development of the 60s and mounted ...

    On this engineering idea of ​​Ukrainian designers always ended. Next came engineering misunderstandings ...
  13. Firework
    Firework 10 October 2017 14: 56 New
    +1
    Quote: Waltasar
    And someone will have to heal from the DShK these same hatches under fire with just copied 30mm guns. On the chassis of the obsolete T-64.
    Total and business.

    however, the Russian terminator lacks these
    1. volodimer
      volodimer 10 October 2017 16: 54 New
      +1
      Our designers unconditional respect. But our terminator was changing, even before it was released, and it did not immediately come to its current appearance (in particular, the emergence of protection of birds). We can talk about why Ukrainians did not take into account our experience, but it is possible that this is a trial design, using ready-made solutions, and it will be finalized to the serial (I hope this will not be).
      1. Firework
        Firework 10 October 2017 17: 07 New
        +1
        finalized and will go to kill people in the Donbass!
  14. aws4
    aws4 10 October 2017 21: 05 New
    +2
    (“It is equipped with two 30-mm guns that are pirated copied from 2A42 guns. There is also a 7,62-mm machine gun and an automatic 30-mm grenade launcher. They were also roughly torn from Russian products.) As far as I know, the 30 mm gun and a grenade launcher and a machine gun were developed back in the Soviet Union that they copied there I don’t understand ??? do not overdo it
  15. Chobot
    Chobot 10 October 2017 22: 33 New
    +1
    Do not twist, then the war of the 80s, only without aviation and with the active use of UAVs. For these conditions, the car came out tolerable, well, much better than some kind of Azov or whatever.
  16. Kenxnumx
    Kenxnumx 11 October 2017 16: 20 New
    0
    But what about the garbage can with eyes from the intercom. Recognized too powerful and decommissioned so as not to destroy the world.
  17. Grach-25sm
    Grach-25sm 11 October 2017 18: 19 New
    0
    Hardness, as it is! Something remotely similar, the Ukrainians were not even halfway towards the implementation of the BMPT concept. The result was, roughly speaking, a tank with weapons, like a modern BMP. Sorry, why the genital organ is necessary? laughing