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Die Welt: The EU lost tens of billions due to the sanctions, and Russia was the winner

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After the "annexation of the Crimea" in 2014, the EU imposed a variety of sanctions against Russia, designed to weaken the country's economy, but the retaliatory ban on the import of various goods into the Russian Federation led to much more serious consequences, the newspaper Die Welt writes.




“The size of the losses caused by the Russian embargo is still arguing. Recently, the results of an analysis conducted by the Austrian Institute for Economic Research on the request of the European Parliament were published. This analysis examined the economic consequences of sanctions and embargoes for EU countries. Studies have shown that sanctions cost the EU a total of € 30 billion, ”the article quotes. InoTV.

According to the information, “exports from the EU to Russia declined from € 120 billion in 2013-m to € 72 billion last year. At the same time, the fall in oil prices and the weak ruble also had significance, but an analysis of the Austrian Institute showed that the sanctions still played a significant role in reducing exports to the Russian Federation.

Germany suffered the biggest losses in the EU - € 11,1 billion. Poland, Great Britain and France also suffered significantly. Cyprus has lost a third of its business with Russia. It was hard for Greece and Croatia to lose 23% and 21% of exports, respectively. German losses in percentage terms were 13,4%.

“All this led to a particularly delicate situation also because the attempt to put Russia in a difficult position in economic terms was not crowned with success. At first, certain problems were present, but now the Russian economy is in a growth stage. The crisis is over. Experts predict that growth this year and next year could be 1,7%, ”the article says.

On the whole, Russia has noticeably reduced its dependence on the West. Instead of relying on the dollar, the central bank buys gold. According to the newspaper, “now Russia's gold reserves amount to 1716 tons, which is 700 tons more than it was before the crisis in relations with the West; foreign exchange reserves also increased and exceeded $ 420 billion compared to $ 70 billion in 2015 year. ”

Already in March, the leading rating agency S & P assessed the situation in Russia as positive. “At the same time, in the course of the Crimean and Ukrainian crises, the Kremlin’s credit rating fell to the garbage,” the newspaper reminds.

Meanwhile, at present, in the financial markets, Russia is already considered a trustworthy debtor, and investors are ready to invest money in the country.

"In the summer, when the relationship between the Kremlin and the White House reached a low point, Moscow was able to get $ 3 billion in financial markets, where, by the way, sanctions already do not exist, and this fact increases the pressure on the real economy, demanding weakening or even the complete abolition of punitive measures, ”concludes the newspaper
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  1. Burbon
    Burbon 10 October 2017 08: 14 New
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    what kind of article? .. and where are the reverse numbers ?? .... it smacks of propaganda ....
    1. vovanpain
      vovanpain 10 October 2017 08: 26 New
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      Quote: Burbon
      what kind of article? .. and where are the reverse numbers ?? .... it smacks of propaganda ....

      Greetings Dmitry hi All the same, Die Welt is a German newspaper and writes about the consequences for Germany, and as a result of the sanctions they naturally lost everything, Russia is no exception. hi
      1. Burbon
        Burbon 10 October 2017 08: 27 New
        +2
        Quote: vovanpain
        Greetings Dmitry

        hi I just love objectivity when they give pies for free, so either something is wrong with flour or meat ....
        1. Orel
          Orel 10 October 2017 08: 45 New
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          Objectivity is lacking everywhere today. And common sense too. Sanctions are a big problem for us; developing on a reservation will not work. Disconnecting from the world economy is also the way of the DPRK, as they flourished during the isolation period, no one needs to explain. Import substitution works in two directions at once, on the one hand it’s good that we do something ourselves, and on the other hand, the quality of goods in stores has fallen. Without competition with Western manufacturers, it makes no sense for domestic producers to do something very well - they will buy it like that, because there is no other. Import substitution, and so it went to sanctions and went in the face of competition and decent quality products appeared, for pork and poultry we have been providing ourselves seriously for a long time. Now the competition has been artificially eliminated and, as a result, they have gotten higher prices and lower quality. For me, instead of imposing retaliatory sanctions, it was necessary to financially support the expansion of the business so that in conditions of competition with Western products, high-quality domestic products would appear. Our anti-sanctions hit our ordinary citizens, well, and temporary inconvenience to the EU. 30 billion euros for the export of the European Union - frankly a drop in the bucket. It’s just that some suffered more in specific industries that were completely oriented to Russia, but in the general statistics of exports this is nothing. The total volume of exports from the EU in 2016 amounted to more than 2,5 trillion. dollars. What is in this sense 30 billion euros in three years. A drop.
          1. Diana Ilyina
            Diana Ilyina 10 October 2017 09: 18 New
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            Orel Today, 08:45 ↑ New
            Sanctions are a big problem for us; developing on a reservation will not work.
            For the sake of objectivity, your whole comment comes down to one phrase - KAC OFFERS TO GIVE UP ...!
            Import substitution works in two directions at once, on the one hand it’s good that we do something ourselves, and on the other hand, the quality of goods in stores has fallen.
            The quality of what has fallen ?! A specific example in the studio, and not your slogans from the State Department’s agitation ?!
            For me, instead of imposing retaliatory sanctions, it was necessary to financially support the expansion of the business so that in conditions of competition with Western products, high-quality domestic products would appear.
            But why didn’t they appear before the sanctions, who prevented domestic business ?! Another liberal nonsense!
            It is necessary to respond to sanctions with sanctions, more severe. The West understands only the power and blow to the very sick, to the wallet. So go forest with your tips. Personally, I and my friends on the sanctions violet. I don’t eat Parmesan and jamon, and I prefer local tomatoes rather than Turkish ones without taste or smell.
            And you can continue to distribute your "cry Yaroslavna", the people somehow do not care about it ...
            1. insular
              insular 10 October 2017 09: 23 New
              +5
              Quote: Diana Ilyina
              Personally, I and my friends on the sanctions violet. I don’t eat Parmesan and jamon, and I prefer local tomatoes rather than Turkish ones without taste or smell.

              It is understandable if, of all the sanctions, you only know about jamon and tomatoes laughing hi
              It is of course purple ...
              1. Diana Ilyina
                Diana Ilyina 10 October 2017 09: 31 New
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                insular
                It is understandable, if from all the sanctions you only know about jamon and tomatoes laughing hi It is of course purple ...
                And what about the ban on lending to our banks in the West somehow affected your personal well-being ?! I’ll tell you a terrible secret, the majority of our population do not have deposits in foreign currency, and the majority simply do not have ruble deposits. So this population does not give a damn about the problems of our bankers. The company I work for overcame the entire period of sanctions with loans in euros and we live nothing, this year growth has also begun. Who does not work, he cries, and who works to those sanctions on the side. You can cry further, and we will somehow survive without you.
                1. insular
                  insular 10 October 2017 09: 40 New
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                  Quote: Diana Ilyina
                  I will tell you a terrible secret, most of our population do not have deposits in foreign currency

                  I’ll tell you not even a secret:
                  To ensure real economic growth, the growth of all sectors and sectors of the economy is required, and for this you need access to cheap loans and suddenly, you will be surprised that our banks are lending from foreign banks, and this has greatly affected the availability of loans and the lending rate. Further, it is necessary to conduct settlement monetary operations, the very trading ones for which accounts are needed. And the most amazing thing - do not be shocked - wages come from all this! Yes, yes, the very RFP that the population receives who do not care about sanctions ...
                  And what do we have? And we have wild inflation and the absence of even a hint of indexation in the foreseeable future, where over 4 years, the population of the population has depreciated very significantly, while there has been an increase in tariffs several times a year.
                  It would seem, what does the sanction have to do with it ...
                  And the most ridiculous thing about colic is that import substitution is impossible without building up production, which is financed only in sweet promises with a blue eye.
                  1. Diana Ilyina
                    Diana Ilyina 10 October 2017 09: 52 New
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                    And what do we have? And we have wild inflation
                    Just wild ?! Maybe sound the numbers ?!
                    To ensure real economic growth, the growth of all sectors and sectors of the economy is required, and for this you need access to cheap loans and suddenly, you will be surprised that our banks are lending from foreign banks, and this has greatly affected the availability of loans and the lending rate.
                    Or maybe it’s not a matter of cheap Western loans, but of the credit policy of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, which in general is not related to the Russian Federation ?!
                    And the most amazing thing - do not be shocked - wages come from all this! Yes, yes, the very RFP that the population receives who do not care about sanctions ...
                    Are you talking to me?! Who knows me for a long time, knows where and by whom I work, it is my duty to know everything that happens in the economy. And the connection between wages and foreign loans is generally far-fetched. Do not pull the owl on the globe. Salary growth depends on the economically stable state of the enterprise itself, and not on its debt, especially in foreign currency.
                    It would seem, what does the sanction have to do with it ...
                    Well, as I wrote above, raise your hands up and run to surrender to the mercy of the winner. Maybe you Americans will be allowed to live and clean their shoes with toilets. We don’t need such "happiness" and for nothing ...!
                    1. insular
                      insular 10 October 2017 10: 01 New
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                      Quote: Diana Ilyina
                      Just wild ?! Maybe sound the numbers ?!

                      Oh, I'm sure you can do it without me. Even folding official data for each year you will get something around 35-40% (2014-2017).
                      Quote: Diana Ilyina
                      Or maybe it’s not a matter of cheap Western loans, but of the credit policy of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, which in general is not related to the Russian Federation ?!
                      Mysterious female logic ... And the grounds for such a policy of the Central Bank? Negotiate already.
                      Quote: Diana Ilyina
                      Are you talking to me?!

                      To you, to you
                      Quote: Diana Ilyina
                      Salary growth depends on the economically stable state of the enterprise itself, and not on its debt, especially in foreign currency

                      You yourself don’t pull something on the globe, you didn’t write a word about loans in foreign currency. Read it again. I’m sure that if you are at least half as competent in these matters, then after reading it you will understand what kind of loans it is and moreover, you understood me, referring to the Central Bank ...
                      And the financial stability of the enterprise is a condition guaranteeing its constant solvency, the very same debit credit (Indicator of the security of the debtor's obligations with its assets).
                      Quote: Diana Ilyina
                      Well, as I wrote above, raise your hands up and run to surrender to the mercy of the winner.

                      Such speeches remind me of such figures on the other side of the Great Ukrainian Wall. There are also Kremlin agents around (you have liberals), people, too, are poor there, and the embroideries are talking about oversteps (how can you not compare?).
                      Good luck.
                  2. Astoria
                    Astoria 11 October 2017 00: 26 New
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                    To ensure real economic growth, the growth of all sectors and sectors of the economy is required, and this requires access to cheap loans
                    - industries that work domestically and receive revenue in rubles You plan to lend in foreign currency - I would not want to offend you, but this is a very stupid offer. laughing
                2. Orel
                  Orel 10 October 2017 10: 06 New
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                  Quote: Diana Ilyina
                  So this population does not give a damn about the problems of our bankers.


                  Bankers' problems may very soon become your personal problems. For without a banking system, you Diana and I will move on to the Middle Ages.
                  1. stas
                    stas 11 October 2017 00: 33 New
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                    Diana as Ukrainians in Ukraine, is always very patriotic to the impossibility of enduring.
                    Arguments do not convince her, she believes the king.
                    But the king is building capitalism with a personal identity.
                    But human capitalism will not work in Russia, that is the tsar’s main mistake.
                    1. Blombir
                      Blombir 11 October 2017 19: 55 New
                      +1
                      Diana Ilyina, you are beautiful, even surrounded by liberals. Hang on, you have many allies here.
              2. vovanpain
                vovanpain 10 October 2017 09: 37 New
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                Quote: insular
                It is understandable if, of all the sanctions, you only know about jamon and tomatoes

                But what has changed? Only logistics and price. laughing And as we received goods from Europe, we get it. But we also develop our production.
                1. insular
                  insular 10 October 2017 09: 44 New
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                  Quote: vovanpain
                  And what has changed? Only logistics and price

                  In essence, you are right, if you recall the scandal with Siemens ... Import substitution in our opinion. Buy someone else’s from under the floors, and pass it off as your own. Sleep and immediately find new suppliers, but again not at home, but at a higher price .... Import substitution
                2. Diana Ilyina
                  Diana Ilyina 10 October 2017 09: 57 New
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                  vovanpain Today, 09: 37 ↑
                  What has changed?
                  Volodya, hi love love love glad to see you! Everything to the point. In my enterprise, I see that the bottom has passed the end of last year and at the beginning of this. In general, metallurgy went into growth especially from the second quarter of this year. And if metallurgy went, it means a turning point in the economy as a whole.
                  Well, let the defeatists continue to tear their hair at the fifth point and shout that it was “lost” ... We will survive!
                  Once again, good to see! drinks love
                  1. Burbon
                    Burbon 10 October 2017 10: 59 New
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                    Quote: Diana Ilyina
                    And if metallurgy went

                    excuse me, where did metallurgy go? .... sharply, almost 2 times raised rental prices, and that one is not particularly in demand .... maybe enlighten? ... I kind of read 15 years in this industry and by the way / n very funny ....
            2. Orel
              Orel 10 October 2017 10: 01 New
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              Quote: Diana Ilyina
              The quality of what has fallen ?! A specific example in the studio, and not your slogans from the State Department’s agitation ?!


              https://www.medikforum.ru/news/wellness/health_fo
              od / 38467-sankcii-udarili-po-kachestvu-produktov-v
              -magazinah.html

              Or Rospotrebnadzor, we have a branch of the State Department. Blind patriotism is dangerous idiocy. You need to keep your eyes open and understand what is happening.
            3. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 10 October 2017 10: 13 New
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              Quote: Diana Ilyina
              It is necessary to respond to sanctions with sanctions, more severe. The West understands only the power and blow to the very sick, to the wallet.

              Diana! hi The thing is that the local bourgeoisie keep their wallet with them. The whole point of their sanctions was to seize the capital and assets of our oligarchs and thieves, which did not affect the interests of the population of the Russian Federation.
              And now we look at the actions of our authorities. Counter-sanctions ..., first of all, hit the population with rising prices and not even a pun, which in France costs 1 euro = 70-80 rubles. Ours is just for reference, but for everyday goods, food and medicine !
              Further, the Central Bank collapses the ruble, again "benefit" to the population.
              Then the government initiates, the Duma accepts, and the president signs the law on compensation for losses to the “businessmen” from the sanctions, at the expense of the budget! –– again in favor of the people.
              But the withdrawal of capital from the Russian Federation over the years of sanctions has been steadily growing. This very capital works for the economies of “our enemies”.
              Here is an oil painting for you!
              Watch the videos carefully ...

          2. 210ox
            210ox 10 October 2017 09: 36 New
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            Your suggestions? Fall into the legs and repent? The Soviet Union was built and intensively developed in worse conditions (Oh yes, you do not know this because of age) And if it weren’t for the betrayal in the late 80s, everything would have been wonderful. About financial support business ... Liberals have been trumpeting about this for the last fifteen years. General words. What specifically and what is needed in the first place? First of all, it is necessary to strengthen defense capabilities and, unfortunately, yes, it’s not enough for everyone. But this is already a question of the efficient use of funds and corruption, but not business support. Those who know how and want to deal with it will find that way. And those who want to fuck from the state, such a business is not needed.
            Quote: Orel
            Objectivity is lacking everywhere today. And common sense too. Sanctions are a big problem for us; developing on a reservation will not work. Disconnecting from the world economy is also the way of the DPRK, as they flourished during the isolation period, no one needs to explain. Import substitution works in two directions at once, on the one hand it’s good that we do something ourselves, and on the other hand, the quality of goods in stores has fallen. Without competition with Western manufacturers, it makes no sense for domestic producers to do something very well - they will buy it like that, because there is no other. Import substitution, and so it went to sanctions and went in the face of competition and decent quality products appeared, for pork and poultry we have been providing ourselves seriously for a long time. Now the competition has been artificially eliminated and, as a result, they have gotten higher prices and lower quality. For me, instead of imposing retaliatory sanctions, it was necessary to financially support the expansion of the business so that in conditions of competition with Western products, high-quality domestic products would appear. Our anti-sanctions hit our ordinary citizens, well, and temporary inconvenience to the EU. 30 billion euros for the export of the European Union - frankly a drop in the bucket. It’s just that some suffered more in specific industries that were completely oriented to Russia, but in the general statistics of exports this is nothing. The total volume of exports from the EU in 2016 amounted to more than 2,5 trillion. dollars. What is in this sense 30 billion euros in three years. A drop.
            1. Orel
              Orel 10 October 2017 10: 05 New
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              Quote: 210ox
              Your suggestions? Fall into the legs and repent?


              I voiced the proposal. You are reading inattentively. Read carefully again.
          3. Vasyan1971
            Vasyan1971 10 October 2017 20: 31 New
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            Quote: Orel
            What is in this sense 30 billion euros in three years. A drop.

            And I am always touched by such statements. Yes, can you imagine how much this is 30 lard. Though rubles, even euros? What it is? How many taxes, social payments and other related things? There, some neighbors for 1 (!) Lard, and even a loan, are ready to strangle themselves and strangle their country, but for you - a drop! By God, I envy people with such a worldview - pah, a trifle, 30 billion more, 30 less. It's hard to understand you rich ...
        2. Stas157
          Stas157 10 October 2017 08: 52 New
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          Quote: Burbon
          what kind of article? .. and where are the reverse numbers ?? .... it smacks of propaganda ....

          It seems like that. But, if you take the picture as a whole, the crisis certainly had a positive effect. But, as usual, all the hardships and consequences fell on the back of the common people. We take statistics, if last year our economy fell still, then this did not show a big increase of 1,5-2%. But even with a growing economy, the welfare of the people is falling (by the way, this was recently discussed at the HE). But among our billionaires, it grows in any crisis by 18-20%. So, someone is jumping, and someone is lucky. We have a divided society.
          1. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 10 October 2017 09: 37 New
            +1
            Quote: Stas157
            We take statistics, if last year our economy fell still, then this showed a slight increase of 1,5-2%.

            Statistics recorded a slowdown in the fall of 1,5-2% is the essence, and you have a pun.
            1. Stas157
              Stas157 10 October 2017 09: 46 New
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              Quote: Stroporez
              Statistics recorded a slowdown in the fall of 1,5-2% is the essence, and you have a pun.

              Well, if you don’t like my opinion, then let's see what MK writes:
              Russian economic statistics are full of paradoxes: the country's GDP is growing (by 1,5% in the first half of the year, by 2,5% in the second quarter), and real incomes of the population continue to fall (by 1,4% in the first 6 months of 2017- go). Rosstat data.

              So answer, how is this possible? Make the right conclusion yourself.
              Obviously, this suggests that if someone has a weakening economy in a growing economy, then it should increase for others. Money cannot disappear without a trace! The evidence that billionaires are adding 18% to their billions per year is the answer to the question of why the welfare of the people falls and where our money actually goes.
              1. insular
                insular 10 October 2017 09: 48 New
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                Conclusion?
                Economic growth driven by impoverishment wassat
              2. PalBor
                PalBor 10 October 2017 10: 17 New
                +7
                Real incomes, indeed, have fallen. I work at school ... Some mothers, almost crying, complain that for the first time in 10-12 years they have to go to work. For the family budget (i.e., man’s money) for fitness, beauty and study the phytodesigner is no longer enough. Traged! You won’t understand, cry or laugh. what
              3. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 10 October 2017 10: 29 New
                +1
                Quote: Stas157
                Well, if you don’t like my opinion, then let's see

                Comrade hi I just said that all these Rosstats ...... The fact is that over the past few years the Russian economy has fallen, and now it suddenly began to grow (according to reports), so how can it be presented as a slowdown in the fall or growth?
                In other words, this is the verbiage of the nuts and dimons, which even such pearls betray.
                Here, sbsno, what I said. hi
                By the way, I posted higher vidyuhi, everything is detailed there.
                1. Stas157
                  Stas157 10 October 2017 10: 38 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Stroporez
                  The fact is that over the past few years the Russian economy has fallen, and now it has suddenly begun to grow (according to reports), so how can it be presented as a slowdown in the fall or growth?

                  I agree. One can talk about real growth only when the economy reaches at least its pre-crisis states. That is, it will recover. And this is just a rebound from the bottom that we have reached.
                  1. Sling cutter
                    Sling cutter 10 October 2017 10: 50 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Stas157
                    And this is just a rebound from the bottom that we have reached.

                    Are you talking about the "diver" who was groping the bottom? laughing
                    He has gold coins of three kilos, as a load were belay
                    In a word, we must wait for the report of "our sworn partners" on the capitals of "our sworn fighters for national happiness."
                    That's where the uncut budgets will be fun!
          2. sir_obs
            sir_obs 10 October 2017 10: 02 New
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            But our billionaires grows in any crisis

            Millionaires generally always grow, not only ours
            In the states, when in 2008 the mortgage crisis broke out, the state poured billions into banks and saved bankers, simultaneously throwing out unlucky citizens out of their homes. Although they should have planted these bankers, since the whole mess was the work of their little hand.
        3. rotmistr60
          rotmistr60 10 October 2017 10: 24 New
          +1
          it means either something is wrong with flour or meat ....

          Or maybe with a head that tells you to take "free pies" from anyone? And about the "propaganda" in the previous comment, you obviously went too far, especially since the author of the article is German.
    2. Astoria
      Astoria 10 October 2017 08: 31 New
      0
      https://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/article169432945/E
      uropas-30-Milliarden-Opfer-laesst-die-Russen-kalt
      .html
    3. hrych
      hrych 10 October 2017 08: 42 New
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      In foreign trade, surplus matters. Because The EU buys hydrocarbon and other raw materials from us, it cannot reduce its consumption, for our part, we have reduced imports. Consequently, surplus is growing in favor of the Russian Federation. Judging by Eurostat statistics, during the reporting period, energy imports to the EU grew by 13%. In addition, imports of chemical products increased by 60%, and machinery and equipment by 23%. It turns out that we earn currency from exports and spend less on imports, the released funds go to gold and foreign exchange reserves. And all against the background of import substitution. Plus, the market in the Russian Federation, EU companies lose forever. This is called a defeat in the trade war.
      1. Berber
        Berber 10 October 2017 08: 50 New
        +6
        I agree. Of course, we lost something, but in the end we were in the black. But there is one significant minus - the population earns less, money has become less, and 1% has risen in Forbes. That is, they saved the richest ...
        1. hrych
          hrych 10 October 2017 10: 44 New
          +1
          Yes, how to say. Unfortunately, the banker or the owner of the plant goes bankrupt, then the world will go not him, but a crowd of hard workers. Therefore, state support for the economy where enterprises are saved is necessary for a simple layman. Such is a capitalist society.
          1. Berber
            Berber 10 October 2017 12: 11 New
            +1
            But notice, there is something unfair about it. That is, ordinary citizens plow and take a hit on themselves, while elitists have problems. Yes, and capital is removed from the country.
      2. kapitan92
        kapitan92 10 October 2017 09: 06 New
        +9
        Quote: hrych
        Judging by Eurostat statistics, during the reporting period, energy imports to the EU grew by 13%.

        They buy up while prices are low and fill their gas storages.
        Quote: hrych
        In addition, imports of chemical products increased by 60%, and machinery and equipment by 23%.

        Figures from the "crafty". If we delivered to Germany 100 "Lada Vesta" - this is 100% of 2014.
        Grains began to sell more, but this is poor quality grain and is used as fodder.
        We have problems with durum wheat. As we sat on the "needle" and sit.
        Quote: hrych
        And all against the background of import substitution.

        What are you talking about? What import substitution, it remained only in the reports of the Dimon government. Just as money did not go to the real sector of the Russian economy, it does not. hi
        1. insular
          insular 10 October 2017 09: 20 New
          +3
          Quote: kapitan92
          As money did not go to the real sector of the Russian economy, it does not go

          Money is squeezed from everywhere. They don’t know what else to cut back.
          1. kapitan92
            kapitan92 10 October 2017 09: 25 New
            +6
            Quote: insular
            Money is squeezed from everywhere. They don’t know what else to cut back.

            The treasury is empty !!! Ahead is an increase in excise taxes on fuels and lubricants, which will entail a rise in price of everything and everything. And all this against the background of a catastrophic and practically unpunished plunder of the country's budget.
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 10 October 2017 09: 45 New
              +4
              Quote: kapitan92
              The treasury is empty !!! Ahead is an increase in excise taxes on fuels and lubricants,

              Colleague! hi
              Not only fuels and lubricants, the issue of increasing VAT to 20-22% is being considered. You can’t even talk about the tax on “shoe recycling”.
              And next year we are waiting for the World Cup, the financing of which will also fall on the shoulders of the population.
              1. kapitan92
                kapitan92 10 October 2017 09: 51 New
                +4
                I agree with you, but the increase in prices for fuels and lubricants from January will be a burden on everything, the sowing ahead.
                Please note that the issue of introducing a progressive tax on the incomes of the powerful is completely blocked by "people's representatives."
                1. Sling cutter
                  Sling cutter 10 October 2017 10: 37 New
                  +1
                  This is obvious, but VAT will accelerate prices to collider speeds!
                  Quote: kapitan92
                  the question of introducing a progressive tax on the incomes of the powerful is completely blocked by "people's representatives."

                  This has been happening for 25 years, but has been particularly active since 2003.
                  For the people there is a litter-TV, and for the bourgeoisie there are comfortable laws.
        2. hrych
          hrych 10 October 2017 11: 08 New
          +3
          Quote: kapitan92
          Just as money did not go to the real sector of the Russian economy, it does not.

          Putin's agricultural holdings are not the real sector? It was they who provided the country with food security. Bolshevnya with collective farms was not able to feed the country. We are the third in the world’s grain export market, and the first in wheat. What forage is there, what a mess. Millet itself is not a fodder crop. The same Turkey, which purchases millet from us, makes flour from it and exports it. Is this fodder? Egypt buys from us, and when we had no worries and we reduced supplies, there were interruptions in bread, which ended in a revolution and the Salafis came to power. And the USSR bought millet in the United States, for gold, beauty and more. By the way the question of the century, they say where is the gold of the party. So here is the answer for you - they have eaten. When the petrodollars ran out, a gold reserve was launched. Of course, they fed many more parasites, future traitors ... These numbers are not ours, but Eurostat, or do you lose consciousness from starvation? Come into Pyaterochka, there are mountains of overseas fruit, etc. I remember the Soviet food store, blue chicken and shpig on the counter, and if they put out sausages for sale, then the queue would run across the floor of Africa, Asia and Lat, as if in a mausoleum. America, and there were no piston bananas. Ugh ... And now they walk here lips pout and gossip about the bloody regime. Now say what you want, eat what you want ... So four more new atomic submarines have already banged, deployed a satellite constellation of dozens of vehicles, the latest aircraft, with helicopters, and a hundred Yarusovs have already blotted. So one devil there are dissatisfied ....
        3. hrych
          hrych 10 October 2017 11: 41 New
          +1
          Not this promise to you, but in general drinks After a severe defeat, when the USSR fell and Russia was on the verge of death, the current well-being of the country's citizens, waging an economic war with the World Order, waging several local wars, is very, very normal.
          1. kapitan92
            kapitan92 10 October 2017 16: 47 New
            +5
            Quote: hrych
            Not this promise to you, but in general

            At first I was a little surprised, but then I saw your second post. drinks
    4. siberalt
      siberalt 10 October 2017 09: 37 New
      +2
      Russia has become less buy imported ersatz products yes. But their manufacturers completely replaced their import and began to produce such ersatz themselves that the West did not even dream of. laughing
      The conversation of the buyer and seller in the market:
      - You that? - Milk. - What kind of milk? - Cow. - Get your cow and drink the cow. belay
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 10 October 2017 10: 39 New
        +3
        Quote: siberalt
        and they themselves began to produce such ersatz that the West could not even dream of. laughing

        You are right, Comrade!
        Pay attention to how import substitution has affected palm oil purchases. belay
        Growth exceeded expectations wassat
  2. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 10 October 2017 08: 16 New
    +7
    even the complete abolition of penalties
    And your measures to us to the bulb!
    1. Cutter
      Cutter 10 October 2017 08: 30 New
      +8
      Be that as it may, the result of the imposition of sanctions turned out to be exactly the opposite of what was expected, and it pleases! Now, let Europe once again think about its "independence" from overseas friends! yes
      1. samoletil18
        samoletil18 10 October 2017 09: 14 New
        +1
        Well, macroeconomic indicators are really good. Only they are good for those who are attached to a budget feeder. The rest, both small business, and a hard worker, and a small employee, and anyone who creates this budget, taxes, purchases, payment of duties and excise taxes, somehow feel bad (everyone understood how).
  3. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 10 October 2017 08: 18 New
    +2
    Quote: Burbon
    what kind of article? .. and where are the reverse numbers ?? .... it smacks of propaganda ....

    Is it not obvious from the title of the article that they will not be provided with any return digits?
    1. Burbon
      Burbon 10 October 2017 08: 21 New
      +5
      Quote: Hurricane70
      will not provide?

      conclusion? - just a propaganda article for losers .....
  4. Observer2014
    Observer2014 10 October 2017 08: 21 New
    +4
    Die Welt: The EU lost tens of billions due to the sanctions, and Russia was the winner
    For the economy, the most important thing is the market .. Well, or think of printing a reference point for all world currencies, for example, like a dollar. Sanctions are a blow to their own. Europe has lost the Russian market. That's what got it. All this situation around anti-Russian sanctions is very beneficial for Russia. The truth is that our elites "suffer" the poor fellow very and unbearably. So they suffer that they do not care about Russia. However, like the rest of Russia, they do not care about the elite.
    1. Evgeniy667b
      Evgeniy667b 10 October 2017 08: 30 New
      +7
      If Russia is in the black, then why should the GOZ have to be cut for the same T-14 tanks? The author of the article gives out wishful thinking, not otherwise. And what other problems do we have? Ships already instead of the Black Sea Fleet will again go to fucking Indians.
    2. insular
      insular 10 October 2017 09: 10 New
      +3
      Quote: Observer2014
      All this situevina around anti-Russian sanctions is very beneficial to Russia

      Totally wrong.

      What was the economic growth rate Before the sanctions?
      What was the fall after the imposition of sanctions?
      How long did the fall last?
      What is the growth rate now?
      How soon will we reach the sanctioned level of the economy?

      None of the citizens have heard of the indexation of their RFP since 2013, and inflation during this time gobbled up not a third.
      Who benefits? What is Russia for you? The oligarchs, rising by 20%? It is noticeable.
      And as they wrote to you above, the state defense order is being cut and this is another indicator, given the plans for 2020 ...
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 10 October 2017 17: 33 New
        +3
        insular
        Absolutely not true .....
        . laughing good Eerie in the studio more! In the early 2000s, oil cost 24 American money. And the dollar is 33 rubles. Now, how do you explain everything?
    3. Dedall
      Dedall 10 October 2017 17: 41 New
      +1
      Quote: Observer2014
      Die Welt: The EU lost tens of billions due to the sanctions, and Russia was the winner
      For the economy, the most important thing is the market .. Well, or think of printing a reference point for all world currencies, for example, like a dollar. Sanctions are a blow to their own. Europe has lost the Russian market. That's what got it. All this situation around anti-Russian sanctions is very beneficial for Russia. The truth is that our elites "suffer" the poor fellow very and unbearably. So they suffer that they do not care about Russia. However, like the rest of Russia, they do not care about the elite.

      Wow, as if I wanted to give a damn, and also kick at least one “elite”.
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 10 October 2017 17: 44 New
        +2
        Dedall
        Wow, as if I wanted to give a damn, and also kick at least one “elite”.
        What is the problem? Are you shy? We will turn away. Act. repeat
        1. Dedall
          Dedall 10 October 2017 17: 48 New
          +1
          Unfortunately, "The object is out of reach." On my doctor’s salary as much as 8 thousand rubles. there is no way to reach them. But you want something like that!
          1. Observer2014
            Observer2014 10 October 2017 17: 50 New
            +3
            Dedall
            Unfortunately, "The object is out of reach." On my doctor’s salary as much as 8 thousand rubles. there is no way to reach them. But you want something like that!
            It's okay. Someday you're lucky too hi Suddenly it will happen that their life will depend on you. And then remember them your 8 thousand rubles
  5. tasha
    tasha 10 October 2017 08: 23 New
    +3
    How interesting it is. Instead of imports from the EU, we are increasing foreign exchange reserves. This is probably good when there are gold and bonds bought abroad in the pantries ...
    Now the credit rating of Russia will increase and foreign investors, you see, will start investing in our economy ... In our factories ... Yeah.
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 10 October 2017 10: 18 New
      +1
      Quote: tasha
      Now the credit rating of Russia will increase and foreign investors, you see, will begin to invest in our economy ...

      Do not start!
  6. pvv113
    pvv113 10 October 2017 08: 33 New
    +3
    The EU has lost tens of billions due to sanctions, while Russia has won

    Do not dig a hole for another - you will fall into it yourself hi
  7. alexandrastafiev
    alexandrastafiev 10 October 2017 08: 57 New
    +1
    Nice little article. Here are just a gold-foreign exchange reserves for bread can not be smeared. Prices in Russia are rising and salaries are falling which year (if someone has a replica such as change jobs or get a job, I work and not an official). In general, ordinary people in Russia do not get better from such "successes" or, as Slepakov’s song says "... there are results, there is only no money ...".
  8. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 10 October 2017 09: 02 New
    +1
    I would be glad if I were sure that the whole of Russia would benefit, and not the narrow clan of capitalists.
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  10. gukoyan
    gukoyan 10 October 2017 09: 27 New
    0
    Something the country's income is growing, but the population is impoverished ... Either fake, or something I don’t understand where such prices come from in the markets ...
  11. afrikanez
    afrikanez 10 October 2017 09: 31 New
    0
    Meanwhile, Russia is already considered a reliable debtor in the financial markets.
    I wonder what states consider the debtor? Probably the most "trustworthy" ... lol
  12. Overlock
    Overlock 10 October 2017 09: 31 New
    0
    Quote: Diana Ilyina
    I prefer local tomatoes rather than Turkish ones without taste or smell.

    here and compare Krasnodar tomatoes in Krasnodar and "Krasnodar" tomatoes in Moscow! Pleasant prices - 130-160 rub / kg. Look at the price of cucumbers - 200 rubles / kg. Pleasant import substitution. Not all vegetables grow in the beds, like you, someone buys
  13. XXXIII
    XXXIII 10 October 2017 09: 39 New
    +2
    I don’t know where what sanctions were imposed, on paper maybe in real life prices simply rose .... it smacks of a corporate conspiracy against the masses (consumers) ..... spotpit as it was sold to all brands and countries, it is being sold, the current price has risen ... . negative
  14. Knizhnik
    Knizhnik 10 October 2017 09: 56 New
    0
    Who will be presented with the bill? USA?
  15. aszzz888
    aszzz888 10 October 2017 10: 02 New
    0
    ... I remember a song - "whether there will still be, or else there will be oh-oh-oh-oh!" wassat
  16. Alstorm
    Alstorm 10 October 2017 10: 13 New
    0
    Quote: insular
    Oh, I'm sure you can do it without me. Even adding up the official data for each year, you will get something about 35-40% (2014-2017).

    It’s something you overheated a little. If you do not take into account the depreciation of the ruble, then where did you find such inflation? With these numbers, all prices should have simply doubled. There is inflation, and it is not small, but not 40%. In general, inflation is an inevitable process. And in the conditions in which Russia is now located, the current inflation rate is even less.
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 10 October 2017 10: 50 New
      0
      Inflation accelerates the US branch of the Fed - the Central Bank of the Russian Federation. The manufacturer, taking loans at a frantic interest rate, is forced to raise the price of the goods. Otherwise, it simply won’t survive. Hence the non-competitiveness of domestic production, with the exception of natural raw materials. Well, and who rules our economy in fact? what
      1. vladimirvn
        vladimirvn 10 October 2017 19: 22 New
        0
        Quote: siberalt
        Well, and who rules our economy in fact?

  17. bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 10 October 2017 10: 13 New
    +1
    We dug a pit for the neighbor in chorus, but we got into it ourselves!
  18. Livonetc
    Livonetc 10 October 2017 10: 47 New
    +1
    We simply, as always, delay the successful experience.
    Similarly to China, we force foreign bourgeois to localize production in the territory of their country.
    By the way, I work for an American company.
    So I’ll voice the positive aspects of the work of foreign companies in Russia.
    The majority of taxes are paid fairly without evading the type of "optimization".
    Also in terms of corruption, it is an order of magnitude cleaner than domestic business.
    And working conditions for employees are much higher and more honest than home-grown business.
  19. Dedall
    Dedall 10 October 2017 17: 37 New
    +1
    Regarding the facts and this “note about your boy,” I can say that China won the most here. But how else, if the goods of an industrial group are not produced here. So we gave those billions to the yellow-faced comrades.
  20. spiriolla-45
    spiriolla-45 11 October 2017 13: 53 New
    0
    The fact that reserves increased didn’t become easier for me. Gasoline, gas, electricity, education and fines rose, while salaries fell. Maybe the guarantor and his retinue live better, but it doesn’t make it any easier for us.