Will Russia go to war?

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Voted in the first reading in the Bandera Verkhovna Rada, the law introduced by Poroshenko on the “reintegration of Donbass”, declaring Russia an “aggressor” occupying the Donbass and the Crimea, is called the “law of war”. This is so, for this law de facto disavows the Minsk agreements, which stopped the war in the Donbass: one of its guarantors - Russia - was declared the aggressor and occupier.

Will Russia go to war?




The law on the special status of Donbass prolonged by the Rada becomes insignificant in its meaning. Berlin’s statement about Kiev’s “commitment to the existing agreements” is also null and void. After all, the special status of Donbass will be granted after its “release” of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. The status of the Crimea does not say anything anywhere.

In fact, this is the announcement by Bandera of the war not only to the Donbas, but also to Russia, that war, to which Russia did not appear in the 2014 year. But without a formal declaration of war and the start of hostilities. The plenipotentiary from the USA, Kurt Volker, allegedly against the resumption of hostilities in the Donbas, he said to our prankers, but, apparently, he lied, for he called the law on reintegration "a tough step towards peace", and again he lied. Compare: our plenipotentiary in Minsk, Boris Gryzlov, called the law adopted by the Rada "completely contrary to the Minsk agreements, blocking the Minsk process."

In fact, the Bandera “reintegration of Donbass” is a denunciation of the Minsk agreements, without a formal statement about this. And the legislative preparation of the “Croatian” scenario of force-cleaning of Donbass from anti-fascists. In fact, Kiev puts a fat cross on the peacekeepers, I remind you, I predicted in my previous articles: there will be no peacekeepers in the Donbas. Because peacekeepers interfere with American plans to resume the war in the Donbas.

Perhaps Poroshenko’s ridiculous initiative about peacekeepers, obviously not coordinated with Washington, was the drop that overwhelmed some kind of patience in the State Department, and Poroshenko was at the mercy of the Ukrainian Nazis. Therefore, they lost all fear, and staged a fight with a smoke screen in the Verkhovna Rada: the law on the “aggressor country” is not sufficiently radical for them. Only "political prostitutes" from Oppoblok helped Poroshenko to push this law through the Rada.

How will Moscow and other guarantors of the Minsk agreements react to all this? Berlin and Paris are unlikely to support the law on the "reintegration of Donbass", but they will not be convicted, they will be silent, once Kurt Volker took the floor. They are already silent.

Russia has many options, how can Kiev respond to the rejection of the Minsk agreements. You can suspend the Big Treaty of Friendship with Ukraine (what kind of friendship is there?) And terminate any of its provisions, which would be tantamount to sanctions. You can force the recognition of the Novorossiysk republics. However, most likely, Russia will ignore this situation as much as possible. Russia has nowhere to hurry, and she will do what she can do well - pull on Minsk rubber. Because the Minsk process of Russia is profitable, it will not tear it. Bandera will do this, right up to the official statement about the denunciation of the Minsk agreements and the resumption of the war in the Donbas.

In the ukropress was information that advised the law on reintegration of American advisers. This means that Washington set out to disrupt a separate Minsk peace between Europe and Russia. And, if possible, to unleash a war in the Donbas, with the involvement of Russia in it. All legal obstacles to the start of the war in the Donbas by this law are removed, and the “Croatian scenario”, already run-in by the Americans, is being prepared. The breakdown of the Minsk agreements and the new war in the Donbas with the “Russian aggression” has one real goal - to stop the Russian gas transit through Ukraine to Europe. As if as a result of military force majeure. Everyone understands this, which is why Nord Stream - 1 is loaded on 100%, and gas supplies through Ukraine are breaking all records now.

Official Kiev also wants to frustrate the Minsk agreements, but does not really want to fight; he would like to push through some other format of negotiations with Moscow, even Geneva, even Budapest, without DNR and LC, but with the participation of Poland, for example. To that end, Surkov 7 of October in Belgrade at a meeting with Walker "stressed the need to implement the Minsk agreements with the crucial role of the" Norman format "and the contact group." Volker allegedly agreed with this, and I think he lied again: Volker could not denounce the Minsk agreements, and was forced to support them, and Surkov, and Moscow, simply mock Walker, taking advantage of his helplessness.

The point about the war becomes the main in Kiev. The “war party” is demanding a war in the Donbass tomorrow, the head of the NSDC Turchinov, behind him is the chief of the MVD Avakov with the Nazi “Azov”, even demanding Poroshenko’s decree on the introduction of the APU to the Donbass. Just an ultimatum to President Poroshenko. The field commander of "Azov" Biletsky led to the Rada of his brothers with posters: "Break the Minsk Treaty". Apparently, on October 17, the Nazis of all stripes will demand from the Rada and Poroshenko the official denunciation of the Minsk agreements. And, as a result, the war in the Donbass, and even declare war on Russia.

Poroshenko hesitates, he has long been trying to play the role of the Bandera Fuhrer, does not deny anyone anything in Russophobia, and does not oppose the war, because it removes the demands of extraordinary elections: what are the elections during the war? But he is afraid that the war will get out of control, and Russia may somehow respond asymmetrically. And for gas transit to Europe is afraid.

Another problem Poroshenko: how to start a war in the Donbas? And even: how to make the APU attack? The head of the General Staff, Viktor Muzhenko, clearly does not want to attack: he cannot speak directly about this, therefore he speaks of great losses in the event of an attack on the Donbass. Will discuss his resignation with the president after October 25. If Muzhenko himself publicizes such things, then he leaves, because he does not want to take responsibility.

Defense Minister Poltorak also allegedly filed a resignation report after he made a statement about the need to disarm the Nazi battalions. Muzhenko and Poltorak simultaneously resign! Anticipate the defeat of the APU? Very soon the ammunition depots in Kalinovka exploded, and before that in Balakliya, so that the generals can cite a good reason: the shells are dumb!

Objectively, the Nazis and Volker put Poroshenko in a dilemma: either he resumes the war in the Donbass, or he, in one way or another, is demolished in Kiev. American agent Saakashvili will arrive in Kiev on October 17 with the requirement of impeachment, the Nazi battalions will demand the denunciation of the Minsk agreements and provide extras, possibly armed. If Poroshenko denounces Minsk and agrees to start a war, he will be left alone: ​​it is logical for the “parties of war” to wait for the results of the military campaign, there is no point in taking responsibility for unpredictable results. The only question to which there is no answer today is: will Russia come to war this time?
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  1. +12
    9 October 2017 13: 06
    In fact, this is a declaration by Bandera of the war not only to Donbass, but also to Russia, that war that Russia did not appear in 2014.

    On the one hand, if you send troops into Ukraine and disperse all this rabble of Nazis, there is a very high probability that normal Ukrainians will rise against us, not because they are Bandera, but because the fact of aggression will already take place on our part .
    Well, on the other hand, it is possible that the people will not rise, if everything is done quickly and with little blood, which I think our army can do.
    1. +10
      9 October 2017 13: 09
      Yes, drove Poroshenko to the slaughter. Choice without a choice.
      1. +6
        9 October 2017 13: 39
        Quote: Wend
        Yes, drove Poroshenko to the slaughter. Choice without a choice.

        Well, as here, the "poor fellow" does not swell ... wassat
        1. jjj
          +3
          9 October 2017 13: 51
          In the Donbass republics there is an armed force. She is more or less united. Much better than, say, Syrian troops. The supply of weapons and ammunition here is faster and closer. Therefore, a completely Syrian experience can be used. Fighting are Donbass. And the videoconferencing works on goals. Well, the demilitarized zones, of course
          1. +2
            11 October 2017 10: 04
            Quote: jjj
            In the Donbass republics there is an armed force. She is more or less united. Much better than, say, Syrian troops. The supply of weapons and ammunition here is faster and closer.

            Yes, and the Russian Defense Ministry can now apparently conclude a contract with them, they will become our "foreign legion" ...
      2. +2
        9 October 2017 13: 43
        Quote: Wend
        Yes, drove Poroshenko to the slaughter. Choice without a choice.


        Hey. There is a way out of any situation, even the most critical one, there would be a will, which the present hetman does not have. But this, as they say, is his problem (and with it the problem of the entire former Ukraine). T.N. "The law on the extension of the status of LDNR" was adopted, which does not completely cross out "Minsk". With a black sheep .... We will see what's next.
        1. +2
          9 October 2017 13: 49
          Quote: Lelek
          Quote: Wend
          Yes, drove Poroshenko to the slaughter. Choice without a choice.


          Hey. There is a way out of any situation, even the most critical one, there would be a will, which the present hetman does not have.

          Hey. Yes, it is not only a matter of will, but also of money, which is not in Ukraine or in Russia, but somewhere in the USA or the EU. As they say, who pays, that Poroshenko and dances.
          1. 0
            9 October 2017 14: 01
            Quote: Wend
            As they say, who pays, that Poroshenko and dances.


            Yes it is. Printing presses and the hands of interest-bearing funds are located in the USA and Germany. But this will be one of the factors of the collapse of the "founders" of life on Earth, debts with interest must be paid back very soon, but in order to delay this guillotine, it would be necessary to unleash a war in the southeast, and to unleash it insolently does not allow " Minsk". Here is such a squiggle. Yes
    2. +32
      9 October 2017 14: 06
      It is impossible to enter Russian troops into Ukrostan. Firstly, the world reaction will be negative, even among our allies and friends, both explicit and secret. And is it important. Moreover, our enemies have the majority of the world's media. And importantly, the Russian soldier is not obliged to save someone again. Especially those who are sitting on their asses straight and thinking who would shed blood for him or my hut from the edge .. As long as you can - then we will again poke a finger at it. Secondly, as correctly noted, many citizens of Ukrostan consider this a direct act of aggression. Let now they are up to the neck in manure and it’s getting higher, let many now rely on the Russian Federation, but then (years through 5-10) they or their children will blow that damned Russia has stolen their blue dream of well-fed life in the EU and millions of earnings .. This is how the youth supporting Navalny does not know or does not remember what happened in 90 and what they owe to damned Putin.
      In Ukrostan, the people are inert and the majority already do not care. The most proactive parted who in the Russian Federation who in the EU for work or permanent residence. Those left by chance or they are kept by families, old people .. And the top authorities will never give up the top. It can only be displaced by force. Through DNLR. It is the matter of time. It will come .. It is just necessary to finish large-scale projects in the Russian Federation such as the Kerch Bridge, Turkish and Northern Streams, ports on the Black and Baltic Seas. This is the end of the 2019-20 years. So we spend time and carefully monitor the Americans - they are not fools and will try to force things ..
      1. +1
        9 October 2017 14: 13
        Quote: seti
        First, the global reaction will be negative

        Strange, the "world community" in condemning the civil war in the Donbas consists entirely of Europa and English-speaking countries what The rest of the "undemocratic" world is purely on the drum Yes
      2. +3
        9 October 2017 17: 29
        Quote: seti
        Firstly, the world reaction will be negative, even among our allies and friends, both explicit and secret.

        Did someone look strongly at the world community and NATO in 2008, when Georgians were forced to peace in a week?
        1. +1
          9 October 2017 23: 01
          Support.
          But it is advisable to carry out the “coercion” as in Syria: sawing out everything dangerous — air defense, airfields, the General Staff, the American embassy, ​​and only then dump the iron from the altitudes of 6000 over the art positions of the ukrovermaht. And LDNR and ordinary artes will be “convinced” to drape ukrovermaht and Natsik from the trenches. But the very difficult question remains - how much to take immediately, and how much to leave for later?
          It is clear that the Donetsk and Lugansk regions should be taken as a whole, as well as the Odessa region. But with the rest - do they need to be "released"? As Ishchenko said privately, "where will Russia get so many law enforcement officers and administrative workers in the liberated regions?" It is also impossible to take the whole of Ukraine, and because of those debts that these geeks have done and plundered !!
          It seems to me that you can do what you did to Germany after the First World War - in the surrender, write down so that they would abandon the loving troops except the police, the right of exteriority for the Russian army by our patrolling their skies! Such a small “Ukrainian woman” in the form of a holitsia, well, maybe + a piece of the Lviv region, so that a government debt would hang on them and let Poroshenko, Tymoshenko, and Turchins be there (no, it’s necessary to shoot).
      3. 0
        10 October 2017 09: 33
        ... and a bridge to Alaska .... only hardly anyone will survive
      4. +1
        11 October 2017 10: 09
        Quote: seti
        Firstly, the world reaction will be negative, even among our allies and friends, both explicit and secret.

        You are right in everything, but if there is a massive offensive by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and the Russian Federation is still an aggressor, then we’ll cut this knot and introduce Panama to Kiev itself ... Donbas will not abandon our leadership ... It’s not only a matter of people, providing powerful assistance to Syria, we raised the bar of our ambitions in geopolitics and lowering it is not to face ...
    3. 0
      9 October 2017 15: 24
      on the other hand, it is possible that the people will not rise, if all make fast and with little bloodthat I think our army is capable of.

      Eliminate 10-15 thousand. natsiko-a little?
      1. +1
        13 October 2017 14: 13
        Against the background of 40 (already less, of course, but not less than 35) million people - few, meager.
    4. +4
      9 October 2017 16: 13
      If you send troops to Ukraine, there is a 100% chance that the act of aggression will be condemned by the World Community, and now think about the consequences. If you look at our media (at least the old records, now there is quite a bit of news about Ukraine), then every second Ukrainian is Bandera. Okay, let's imagine that the troops entered and there are no consequences. Simply no. How will the government contain “new” citizens if it cannot feed its own and provide jobs? (The minimum wage / take the same minimum wage.) The Ukrainian people will rise anyway (Crimea does not need to be given as an example, because about 66% of Russians live there) and the massacre will simply begin. To be honest, these are all militarist fantasies.
      1. +1
        11 October 2017 10: 13
        Quote: Med_Dog
        How will the government contain "new" citizens

        what for? There will be no talk about joining the Russian Federation, Donbas will not defend our genocide and that’s all, either it will separate itself or be part of Ukraine under a special status ...
    5. +1
      9 October 2017 16: 48
      “On the one hand,” “on the other hand,” is not politics. Politics follows from the goal. Russia is both Ukraine and the Russian Federation. If the goal is to annihilate Russia, then so far everything is going according to plan. It all starts with creating a problem (a problem is a problem that has no solution). If the goal is the opposite, then Russia must overcome the split.
    6. VB
      0
      9 October 2017 17: 26
      If the Invincible and the Legendary strike back the VKS and Kalmbrami, without the use of ground forces and, i.e. "disarm" Banderstadt, then all will fall apart and scatter themselves.
    7. +1
      10 October 2017 03: 55
      any aggression causes opposition and normal Ukrainians will not understand this !!! Ukraine is their country and let them choose their own path and let the Bandera decide for themselves !!!
      1. 0
        10 October 2017 10: 06
        It's funny))) Ukrainians do not go to the polls-they have long ago scored everything. Natsik go to the polls and choose themselves, and what is lacking is painted on ...
      2. 0
        5 November 2017 18: 40
        it is gratifying that at least someone of the kotsaps remained sane. young man
    8. +4
      10 October 2017 10: 17
      Quote: NEXUS
      it’s possible that the people will not rise,

      but in the slippers will spoil. And children and grandchildren, and great-grandchildren will be told that the oaths ... stole their mriya from Krajina about a sweet life for free. Already Russia was betrayed and sold, but the payment for the sale did not go through. Americans refused to pay for the sale of Russia, since it occupied Hohland. Sooner to free them. They themselves must free themselves from the everlasting mriy about a free sweet life on an American account. Until SAMI understands that 30 pieces of silver at any rate will not be enough for their mriya, until SAMI loudly speak about this at the place of execution of the Neo-Bandera people, one should not meddle there.
    9. 0
      10 October 2017 13: 13
      If close people suffer from normal ones, then this will naturally increase aggression. But what would you do?
  2. BAI
    0
    9 October 2017 13: 26
    Now the situation is very reminiscent of 41 years. Everyone knows that there will be a war, but no one wants to be the first to not be declared a violator of the Minsk agreements (in 41 - an aggressor).
  3. +1
    9 October 2017 13: 44
    I’m wondering how much more blood should be shed in the Donbass, so that those who consider themselves to be “true Ukrainians” finally talk about the world.
    And if everything continues to go on as it is now, sooner or later, but Russia will have to "come" to the war, but will this bring happiness to Ukraine?
    1. 0
      9 October 2017 16: 44
      Will war bring us happiness? The Russian Federation will never be drawn into an open conflict. Unless to send our fellow citizens, but decommissioned equipment in the DNI and LC.
      1. +1
        9 October 2017 17: 01
        Quote: Med_Dog
        The Russian Federation will never be drawn into an open conflict.

        You are sure? Even if their army enters our territory ...
        1. HDZ
          +4
          9 October 2017 22: 32
          We have already visited. And even fired on our territory.
          And there was nothing for them.
      2. +2
        11 October 2017 10: 30
        Quote: Med_Dog
        The Russian Federation will never be drawn into an open conflict.

        They were drawn into the ATS, the result is known, the experience was obtained, the weapons were tested.
  4. 0
    9 October 2017 14: 43
    There is a game of nerves, of course. The question is, who has a bluff more natural.
    ............
    In this situation, I want to hope that the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. and not the Russian Foreign Ministry will be decisive arguments for "sweet petey" and so on. Natsik.
  5. +1
    9 October 2017 15: 22
    The inevitability of the war of the Russian Federation in Ukraine has been obvious since the beginning of the first orange Maidan. For this purpose, it was necessary to best prepare the only allies of the Russian Empire - the Army and Navy. The successful liberation of Crimea from Bandera evil spirits showed that the preparation was successful, but still insufficient.
    The United States is boosting the war in the Donbass to remove the Russian Armed Forces from the Middle East, to freeze North Stream 2 and the Turkish Stream.
    On the other hand, before the election of the President of the Russian Federation, military success in the Donbas is also needed, even if only a little. In this environment, jewelry is needed from our management.
    1. 0
      9 October 2017 16: 18
      The first paragraph is not just not obvious, but not real: August 14 and January 15 proved it. Accordingly, the last two paragraphs are very controversial: the RF Armed Forces in the Donbas will not be from the word ABSOLUTELY (see paragraph 1); military success in the Donbass is not needed at the cost of the blood of our military, the loud resignations of the last months, weeks and days are quite able to cope with the necessary results in the elections.
      Well, something like that. hi
      1. +2
        11 October 2017 10: 35
        Quote: mihey
        The RF Armed Forces in the Donbass will not be from the word AT ALL

        With the aggravation, advancement of the APU to the borders of the Russian Federation, despite the fact that the Russian Federation is the official enemy, it will probably be ...
        Quote: mihey
        military success in the Donbass is not needed at the cost of the blood of our military, the loud resignations of the last months, weeks and days are quite able to cope with the necessary results in the elections.

        Here I agree. On the contrary, the invasion of Ukraine may weaken Putin’s position, because liberals of all stripes are not asleep, a terrible howl will rise!
  6. 0
    9 October 2017 15: 51
    Will not come. They are there at all ... ahem ... no.
  7. 0
    9 October 2017 15: 57
    Poroshenko's ridiculous initiative on peacekeepers

    Damn, what is she "ridiculous"? It fits into a certain logic.
  8. 0
    9 October 2017 16: 53
    Gryzlov. and I’d like to send him on a far erotic foot trip. Russia only lacked war.
  9. +4
    9 October 2017 19: 00
    Quote: NEXUS
    that is, it is very likely that normal Ukrainians will rise against us, not because they are Bandera, but because the fact of aggression will already take place on our part.

    The Ukrainian people have not yet reached the “pen”. Therefore, there may not be any support from the people, especially since the people are fragmented, not organized, and not armed. V. Lenin: "It is not enough that the" lower classes "do not want, it is necessary that the" upper circles "cannot." In this situation, the "lower classes" are silent, and the "upper" can still. So, poking the Russian army in the Ukrainian showdown should not be. That's when Ukraine will wash its own blood, then their people will ripen. Sadly, this is a fact.
  10. 0
    9 October 2017 20: 15
    Kamenev FILMS presents the next version of how bad Ukraine is.
    Defense Minister Poltorak also allegedly filed a resignation report after he made a statement about the need to disarm the Nazi battalions.

    Former regional man in Moscow needs a bite .. Oleynik has already lied so much - that he already has no faith. However, his words are still being used.
    In general, the author of MS is beneficial to the Russian Federation. And all by itself .. And Walker howls at the moon .. in short, "overpower on all fronts."
    It reminds me of "Evil Odessa." He also almost took Moscow.
  11. +1
    9 October 2017 21: 08
    ., Russia will ignore this situation as much as possible. Russia has nowhere to rush, and it will do what it can do well - pull Minsk tires. Because the Minsk process of Russia is beneficial, it will not tear it. ,,
    Truly, Russia knows how to, wait, ... And so we have gone through the whole of Ukraine. For a moment, we come to our senses and in a hurry took Crimea to us.
    1. +1
      10 October 2017 18: 24
      Quote: Sonet
      b ,,. So we pro.rali all Ukraine.

      You cannot stop the avalanche. We must let it go, otherwise it will! And in Ukraine, an avalanche of Nazism has long been growing, since the Soviet era. And the reason is the mistake of Joseph Vissarionych. It was impossible to attach Galicia to Ukraine, these Austro-Hungarian pupils, like a black sheep, the whole herd, that is, the whole of Ukraine was stirred up. He was warned, but he probably hoped to live long and have time to uproot Bandera. Not fused. And Khrushchev released the reins. We have what we have! If Russia got involved in the war, it would certainly be at the cost of impoverishing the people, would pacify Ukraine, but the consequences of such a step are terrible. We have achieved exactly this and have not yet given up our hopes.
  12. 0
    9 October 2017 23: 09
    Declaration of Bandera war? So he seems to have died a long time ago, the author, from the references to Bandera in each sentence does not feel sick yet?
  13. 0
    10 October 2017 01: 51
    Do not go anywhere. If the enemy starts a general offensive .... for example, on Belgorod ..
  14. 0
    10 October 2017 08: 46
    it is immoral to tolerate a criminal Bendery regime in the 21st century
  15. 0
    10 October 2017 09: 29
    The American agent Saakashvili will arrive in Kiev on October 17 demanding impeachment, the Nazi battalions will demand the denunciation of the Minsk agreements and will provide extras, possibly armed.
    Well, here it is. smile
  16. 0
    10 October 2017 10: 08
    The West lives in a crooked looking glass, and their respective thinking is crooked! Agreeing with them is a waste of time, but in order not to immerse humanity in the chaos of the last war in its history, you will have to!
  17. 0
    10 October 2017 10: 28
    It’s advantageous to pull “Minsk Tire” to Russia. First, the faith of the Ukrainian people in the current regime is not the same as it was
    at the very beginning of the coup. Will Russia enter the war? I am more than sure that in the territories not only those that
    rebels control, but in Russia itself there are groups that act or are ready to act against Russia.
    You can not say about Ukraine. Liberals have made our state sluggish in relation to our citizens to the security of the country.
    Intelligence can only be proud of its past. But it is precisely this structure that is the main unit of the Army.
  18. 0
    10 October 2017 10: 30
    Nothing will happen. The dog barks - the wind wears. And Donbass both fired and fired
  19. +1
    10 October 2017 10: 34
    To be afraid of Volkers - not to see bridges! The Russian Federation is now twice as strong and stronger than in the spring of 2014. By 2020, we will be four times stronger and stronger. Externally and internally. In the military and industrial, agricultural and generally geopolitical. Let the walkers rage with joy - Vovka listens, but eats! Correct, WE THINK, Vovka has a policy. Vovka is building bridges over this whole mess.
  20. +1
    10 October 2017 10: 46
    Quote: Music
    Do not go anywhere. If the enemy starts a general offensive .... for example, on Belgorod ..

    Belgorod and the region are not well protected. We must deploy a 2nd tank army there, it’s time already. Or the 1st Rocket-Zheleznodorozhnaya, there are no railroad roads there yet, but it’s time to build. And there are few polygons, but there are good places for them. According to the ancient Belgorod line, that protected Seversky Russia from the Wild Field. And let this Wild Field let him run wild under the Volkers, let them roam and howl there ... Our new trunks will reach them, God willing!
  21. +4
    10 October 2017 11: 06
    Nazi regime in Ukraine, the headache is not so much Europe, but Russia! and it will have to be solved quickly, without regard to the so-called "global community". a year or two more and the Americans will stumble their bases there, and this is already very serious ... Of course, you need to rely on LDNR forces with the support of the Russian Federation.
    1. 0
      10 October 2017 11: 58
      And what is the headache of the "scammers" ???
      It is not Russia that has lost Ukraine; country 404 has lost Russia. !
  22. 0
    10 October 2017 11: 56
    There is only one way out - you need to beat the Yankees! All-yo-yo-yo!
  23. +1
    10 October 2017 13: 47
    Does anyone think that the whole so-called rebel against Russia Ukraine! Everything will be the other way around, as soon as with the help of Russia the first crowds of Bandera will be defeated and our troops will liberate the territory of New Russia, the local people will support and our local forces will be put! We must not forget that the Russian population in the so-called Ukraine is harassed, try to go out and organize some rally, look at Odessa!
    1. 0
      5 November 2017 18: 52
      Ukraine has long risen against the Russian Federation, so the occupation of the East of Ukraine has failed, the Russian army has already broken its teeth. What kind of "liberation" are you talking about? It seems you are behind time - the Shaz is not the 14th year, but the 17th already. “yours” haven’t been around for a long time - who is shot, who uses socially useful labor for a long time
  24. 0
    10 October 2017 15: 27
    look at these morons - there is a calculation for the war of 1914. throwing stools at each other, drunkenness, dirty trenches, mastodon tanks .. etc.
  25. 0
    11 October 2017 09: 53
    Quote: seti
    It is impossible to enter Russian troops into Ukrostan. Firstly, the world reaction will be negative, even among our allies and friends, both explicit and secret. And is it important. Moreover, our enemies have the majority of the world's media.

    In wartime, Mr. Colonel, hiding behind the flag of New Russia, your writings are called propaganda of defeatism and agitation under the general slogan "surrender".
    These, so frightening you to a panic state, media of the enemy agitprop have long been involved in a hybrid war against Russia, accusing us of what we did not do at all. What difference does it make if they accuse us of non-existent "aggression" even now.
    If people like you would not have convinced the President in the 14th that after the Crimea you do not need to at least free Novorossia from the Nazis, and at the very least the center of Ukraine along with Kiev, then everyone would have forgotten that once it was "immovable Ukraine", the population of the liberated regions would throw flowers on the armor of the liberators, the enemies would shut up in fear, and the allies would not only please the queue with congratulations, but their number would increase significantly.

    The world respects the strong and despises cowardly indecisive.

    And importantly, the Russian soldier is not obliged to save someone again.

    Russian soldier is obliged to protect his people. Even if it became divided as a result of the treacherous betrayal of all the scum and presidents-oath-criminals. And in New Russia, the flag of which you are hiding behind, the Russian people live, however, as in Little Russia.
    And if you call to spit on a part of the divided Russian people, then you are not a colonel of the Russian Army, but a foreigner who mischievously pretends to be such.

    Especially those who are sitting on their asses straight and thinking who would shed blood for him or my hut from the edge .. As much as possible - then again they will poke a finger at us with that.

    "your ass" ... "poke a finger at it" ... Are you a latent bugger? Or is it explicit?
    Military man, are you so panicky afraid of their finger? Change the diaper and read the oath, if you are really the one you impersonate, and not the Cossack sent by the SBU.

    Secondly, as correctly noted, many citizens of Ukrostan consider this a direct act of aggression. Let now they are up to the neck in manure and it’s higher, let many now rely on the Russian Federation, but then (after 5-10 years) they or their children will blow that damned Russia has stolen their blue dream of well-fed life in the EU and millions of earnings ..

    Secondly, these "many" are not the majority, but the minority. These “many” (and the concept of many is when more than 2) consist of three parts: activists from the Natsik propaganda campaign (there are few of them), those who are mistaken (there are many more) and mobsters with a manipulated consciousness (their overwhelming majority of these “many”) . With each of these categories you need to work on different programs ...
    And this will be done by the majority who will understand that Russia did not come as an "aggressor", but as a FREEDOM from the fascist yoke.
    I think we will have to restrain them.

    And about these your "trumpeters" there is a great world experience in the "illiberal control of social groups." At least the experience of the USA or China, and the experience of the Russian state is very large. All that is needed is to throw the rot of neoliberalism into the dustbin of history and take up professional (and not confused by ideologized liberalism) state administration for the benefit of its People and their Fatherland.

    This is how the youth supporting Navalny does not know or does not remember what happened in the 90s and what they owe to damned Putin.

    US Department of State Methodology for Legendary Covering?
    It is imperative to include in your publications on the Internet resources signs of loyalty to the attacked regime in the form of criticism of its opponents and positive assessments of the highest authorities. In the jargon of information warfare, this is aptly called the "kiss of Judah."

    In any state, there will always be several tens or even hundreds of thousands of bored idiots who will run to participate in the unpunished buza. But at the slightest fear of harsh punishment for participating in anti-state, extra-legal acts, this nonsense will be thrown out of my head. Only pathological schizophrenics and those who have paid a lot will remain ...

    In Ukrostan, the people are inert and the majority already do not care. The most proactive parted who in the Russian Federation who in the EU for work or permanent residence. Those left by chance or they are kept by families, old people .. And the top authorities will never give up the top. It can only be displaced by force. Through DNLR. It is the matter of time. It will come .. It is just necessary to finish large-scale projects in the Russian Federation such as the Kerch Bridge, Turkish and Northern Streams, ports on the Black and Baltic Seas. This is the end of 2019-20 years. So we spend time and carefully monitor the Americans - they are not fools and will try to force things.


    Oh well. And there (after 2019-20) some more temptations will appear. There will be new reasons to pull the cat by the tail. And during this time, the adversaries will come up with even more sanctions, the Natsiks will become even stronger in power, their "education" system will put children and young people on the conveyor, and several thousand of our supporters and their children will die in the dungeons of the SBU and the Donbass.

    In 2014, all of New Russia and Little Russia could be freed from the Nazis with minimal losses. Many units and formations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the police were ready to go over to the side of the Russian Armed Forces, or at least not to show any resistance. Now the situation is changing not in our favor. But you can still hope for the liberation of New Russia and Little Russia with little blood.
    And what will happen after 2019-20?
    At least the tach of the “defeatists” like you and the reasons for alarmism will become many times more ...
  26. 0
    11 October 2017 20: 06
    Russia has many options on how Kiev can respond to the rejection of the Minsk agreements.
    In my opinion, Russia has already answered, with which, quite transparently, by the law on the creation of military units from foreigners. Which is another confirmation that Russia will not introduce anyone anywhere. Not because it is impossible (the reasons listed in the comments are untenable and refuted many times), but because there is no need. Just "foreign legions" will be formed right on the spot and from local volunteers. And to support them with the “humanitarian aid” from the “Voyentorg”, or maybe with a spark, without crossing the border, fortunately, the same “calibers”, as well as the “Tomahawks,” can fly far.
    In addition, you can wait until Poroshenko is thrown off, so that, with a clear conscience, not to recognize the one who fits in his place and declare all power illegitimate. Also an extra trump card in international politics.
    In general, all this “legislative” mover in Ukraine has absolutely no meaning. There are only two markers - either fighting is underway (offensive, breakthrough, changing the contact line on the map), or not. And these two markers exist regardless of whether they will be accepted or not accepted on the chest in the Verkhovna Rada or the administration of the under-President - "The whole Directory is in the carriage, Its territory is under the carriage." (from)
  27. 0
    12 October 2017 07: 15
    it’s cool to plunge into the world of dreams and fantasies :) Moreover, the article is garbage, so yes and funny comments are purely Strugatsky brothers with Harry Harrison
  28. 0
    13 October 2017 07: 32
    Suppose that it is. But did the author take into account that if the war begins, then in a month our tanks will be at maximum in Lviv? If our Polish brothers can’t "free" him under the guise? The instrument of pressure on Russia will simply be destroyed. And if, as it is supposed, the Ukrainians will unleash the war, then Europe will not find fault. In vain are they going to remove the sanctions and are they building a SP-2? As a result, the Americans will interrupt gas flow for a month, and then what? And then everything. And the gas will flow, and there will no longer be a convenient bridgehead. They will not personally get into this war. Or will someone seriously prove that the Ukrainian army will reach Vladivostok by a victorious march?
  29. 0
    13 October 2017 15: 33
    Lord Well, who else believes that Russia will attack the outskirts (Lithuania, Latvia, Poland)! Why do we need it! We have our own (internal) problems, they have more than one year to solve! It’s just that some morons want everyone in Russia to see the aggressor.
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      16 October 2017 17: 11
      taarish plknik, you probably overslept because the Russian Federation has long declared "the threat to the national security of the US and Europe" the stamp "aggressor" has long been printed on the forehead between the horns. Sales are already two shock divisions manned in Poland / Baltic, which kakge already hints. After the occupation of Crimea near the Russian Federation on the forehead, the laser dot of the sight, the only question is when will the liquidation team