2019 year can be very bad for Ukraine

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2019 year can be very bad for Ukraine


If Russia stops exporting its energy resources through the territory of Ukraine, there will be a hole in the economy of this country that neither Europe nor the United States will be able to patch.



Yes, 2019 year is very important ...

For several years now, Russia has consistently and unequivocally warned Ukraine that it intends to stop using its territory as a transit route for the supply of energy resources to Western markets. If Moscow keeps its word, such a hole will open in the Ukrainian economy that neither Europe nor the United States will be able to patch.

I am amazed all the time by analysts who are developing heaps of plans, intending to expand Ukrainian geopolitics in a western direction and include Ukraine in the security architecture of the Euro-Atlantic world, and at the same time believe that Russian-Ukrainian economic relations will remain unchanged. In 1990, this was quite a reasonable assumption, because Russia had no choice, and it had to use the infrastructure of the Soviet era, since it did not have the means or the capacity to create alternatives. Thus, the balance in the economic and security sphere that developed after the collapse of the Soviet Union was quite reasonable. Russia had to support Ukraine (mainly due to the energy resources that Moscow sold to Kiev at below market prices) in order to have a guaranteed opportunity to supply the rest of the oil and gas to European consumers at higher prices that they were satisfied with.

But such a situation could not survive for a long time, and we have already seen how Russia and the Baltic states, based on their own security interests, changed the conditions of the deal concluded between them. The Baltic countries began to look for alternative sources of supply and took very painful short-term measures to reform their economies in order to abandon cheap Russian energy resources and raw materials that were like drugs to them. When Russia realized that Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia would join NATO and the EU, it created a completely new export infrastructure in the north of the country, the center of which was the area of ​​St. Petersburg. Thus, Russia has eliminated its dependence on the Baltic infrastructure.

Both the heroine of the Orange Revolution, Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko, and the villain of the orange and Maidan revolutions, President Viktor Yanukovych, perfectly understood the dangers that threaten Ukraine, and sought to conclude long-term agreements with Moscow, in which Russia continued to use transit through Ukraine, since it cost it is cheaper than building new bypasses north and south of this country. To sweeten the pill and thwart the efforts to translate the Black Sea fleet in Novorossiysk, Yanukovych signed a long-term lease agreement that allowed Russian sailors to stay in Crimea.

However, after the Maidan revolution, Russia again took up the development and implementation of a plan to abandon Ukrainian transit. Despite Western sanctions, regulatory and legislative efforts of the European Union, as well as a brief quarrel with Turkey after she hit a Russian plane at the end of 2015, Russia flew over the Turkish-Syrian border, Russia did not abandon these efforts. She strongly and regularly says that she intends to switch to other export routes in 2019.

At first glance, this is not a problem for Ukraine, since it has vividly demonstrated its ability to buy gas, oil and coal from other countries, and the gas is supplied to it by Western European partners, and the coal is delivered by the United States. However, such supplies are very costly for the weakened Ukrainian economy. And when Russia stops paying for transit, for Kiev this will be a real shock. The State Energy Company of Ukraine will remain with a huge network of pipelines, storage facilities and pumping stations, and it will have to look for new customers. It is possible that some energy resources will go to Europe from the Caucasus from the Caspian region along the Odessa-Brody route, but this transit will not be able to fully compensate for the losses. Perhaps Ukraine will be able to increase the extraction of energy resources within the country. However, foreign companies will not want to invest their money there until a lasting peace reigns in the east of Ukraine and the Crimean issue is not resolved. In addition, the Ukrainian government will no longer be able to repeat its previous tricks that it has been doing in the past decade, imposing all kinds of exorbitant conditions on foreign energy firms, including the requirement to sell energy to local consumers in large volumes and at low prices. It is also possible that if Russia ceases to use the Ukrainian transit, the conflict in the east may flare up with a new force. It is noteworthy that Eastern Ukrainian separatism did not manifest itself in those areas of the country through which the gas pipelines pass. But things can change after 2019.

Maroc Sefcovic, the European Commissioner for Energy, is trying to force Russia to continue using Ukraine as a transit route, but this strategy is doomed to failure. Turkey no longer has any incentives to act in the interests of the European Union, and after the recent visit of President Vladimir Putin to Ankara, Turkish leader Recep Tayyip Erdogan reaffirmed that the accelerated construction of the Turkish Stream pipeline is a priority for his country. There are several reasons for this. Firstly, Turkey will be guaranteed to receive Russian energy resources that will bypass Ukraine, and secondly, it will be able to become an alternative transit country for Russian energy resources supplied to the markets of Southern and Central Europe. Despite her personal dislike for Putin and mistrust of the Kremlin’s plans, German Chancellor Angela Merkel is committed to ensuring the energy security of her country, as well as the security of German investments in Russian energy projects that will help build the second Nord Stream pipeline in a timely manner. The new sanctions imposed by the US Congress contain provisions that prevent Western banks from financing the construction of new pipelines. However, European firms may follow the example of the French energy corporation Total. When the European Union introduced the first package of sanctions against Russia because of its actions in Ukraine, Total decided not to leave the profitable gas project on Yamal and turned to Chinese sources for funding. Gazprom, planning its actions to abandon the Ukrainian transit, is thinking of increasing supplies to Azerbaijan, which in turn will be able to roundaboutly supply these energy resources to Europe via the Trans-Anatolian Pipeline. Azerbaijan is unlikely to refuse such a proposal, since it will allow it to increase the volume of supplies to Europe.

Separately, it should be noted that the need to fully load this pipeline will put the United States in front of an unpleasant geopolitical choice. If Azerbaijan does not use Russian gas, the likelihood that Baku will open access to its pipelines to Iran will increase, and in this case, Tehran will get new markets and unhindered access to Europe. On the other hand, the United States will have to enter into a big game with China in order to decide for its own benefit whether Turkmen gas will go: east to Beijing or west.

All this suggests that the careless statements of Western analysts about the possibility of blocking Russian plans are not based on sufficient grounds.

Ukraine has a deadline - 2019 the year when the construction of new pipelines should be completed, and the Russian-Ukrainian gas transit contract will expire. It's time to think about such a policy that will ensure Western interests and will contribute to their promotion; but one should not assume that Russia will continue to pay bills.
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  1. +9
    8 October 2017 15: 31
    I think Russia has lost more money from all this Ukrainian history.
    1. +7
      8 October 2017 16: 03
      2019 year can be very bad for Ukraine
      for whom will it be good ...?
      Quote: Belyash
      I think Russia has lost more money from all this Ukrainian history.

      lost everything unmeasured, who is more, who is less, no longer make out.
      1. +2
        8 October 2017 18: 54
        Quote: Dead Day
        lost everything unmeasured

        And wherein
        2019 year can be very bad for Ukraine
        For Ukraine or for Ukrainians ...
        1. +1
          9 October 2017 13: 29
          Quote: NIKNN
          For Ukraine or for Ukrainians.


          Hey. Bad days are coming for those, and for others, and for others as a result of the "crazy" policy of the Kiev hetmans. Instead of reconciling with the Donbass, conducting federalization that suits all regions of the former Ukraine, crushing nationalists and outright Nazis, implementing reforms in governance and the economy, putting things in order at vital facilities for the country, the Kiev junta begs for arms to be sent and makes peace around the world, begging for money that is immediately plundered by cunning oligarchs led by the chocolate cake president. And the "surprise" is not long in coming.
          1. +2
            9 October 2017 17: 13
            Quote: Lelek
            Hey. Bad days are coming for both

            hi Well, if something is changing for me, stagnation is worse ... although I know what war is ... God forbid ... for any ... hi
    2. +3
      8 October 2017 16: 13
      Quote: Belyash
      I think Russia has lost more money from all this Ukrainian history.

      Yeah. 200 billion dollars for 20 years of “friendship” with urcaine, which were pumped into its economy by Russia, this is of course a loss. But as they say there is no silver lining, without good. Now Russia has expanded its ability to supply energy through new pipelines and has become less vulnerable to the whims of the “partners”, which will make up for lost profits.
      1. +1
        9 October 2017 09: 42
        that East Ukrainian separatism did not manifest itself in those areas of the country through which gas pipelines pass. But everything can change after 2019.
        YES. so I also think and this does not change ANYTHING.
        WATER RUSSIAN SEPARATISM ON THE EDGE WE CAN SPIN?
        Crimean experience has shown that voluntary accession changes little life. It is NECESSARY FOR THE UKRAINE TO BE GENTLY OVER TO THE OVERSION TO THE INTERESTS OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION AND REFUSAL TO UKRAINE (TERRITORIAL IDENTITY IS ONLY RUSSIAN "IDEOLOGY")
        1. 0
          9 October 2017 22: 28
          Quote: antivirus
          that East Ukrainian separatism did not manifest itself in those areas of the country through which gas pipelines pass. But everything can change after 2019.
          YES. so I also think and this does not change ANYTHING.
          WATER RUSSIAN SEPARATISM ON THE EDGE WE CAN SPIN?
          Crimean experience has shown that voluntary accession changes little life. It is NECESSARY FOR THE UKRAINE TO BE GENTLY OVER TO THE OVERSION TO THE INTERESTS OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION AND REFUSAL TO UKRAINE (TERRITORIAL IDENTITY IS ONLY RUSSIAN "IDEOLOGY")

          We can then))) - but is it necessary? If measures are really taken to spread "separatism", then only certain parts of the territory of the said state can be split off. But I'm not sure that this option meets the interests of Russia in the long term. That which is (the smallest of the whole territory) no longer gives the USA and the EU the opportunity to swallow urkaine and use it in the NATO program and 100% EU-wide))). It seems to us that separate pieces are also not needed without Odessa and other Russian regions. We will gradually squeeze the situation until the “interesting” subjects of urkaine knock on the door of the Russian Federation themselves. Well, we don’t pretend to Zapadenshchina, because it’s not fodder for the horse - let everyone take their laziness, moreover, Bandera Galicia will be an absolute evil for any country that sheltered it.
          1. 0
            10 October 2017 08: 46
            yes, besides our people we
            needed: Danube Delta + Carpathian passes + way from the Varangians to the Greeks
            geopolitics and economics (tariffs)
      2. +1
        9 October 2017 10: 48
        These 200 billion dollars for 20 years, were pumped into the oligarchs, and not in Ukraine.
    3. +9
      8 October 2017 17: 16
      Russia has lost a lot of money. And made a lot of mistakes. But with transit around Ukraine, Russia's actions are absolutely correct.
    4. +5
      8 October 2017 18: 25
      Quote: Belyash
      I think Russia has lost more money from all this Ukrainian history.

      The most important thing that Russia has lost from this story is the illusion of the opportunity to have fraternal, mutually respectful relations with Ukraine. The Ukrainian elite turned out to be worse than "girls with low social responsibility." They often trade themselves to feed loved ones, and the Ukrainian leadership "sells" their country and people out of personal self-interest.
      “Analysts who develop heaps of plans amaze me all the time, intending to deploy Ukrainian geopolitics in a western direction and include Ukraine in the security architecture of the Euro-Atlantic world” - utopia. I am surprised by analysts who really consider the "security architecture of the Euro-Atlantic world" to be the reason for the coup in Ukraine. The main reason there is moneythat for the EU, that for the USA. And nothing more.
      1. +1
        9 October 2017 10: 08
        Quote: ARES623

        The most important thing that Russia has lost from this story is the illusion of the opportunity to have fraternal, mutually respectful relations with Ukraine. .........
        “Analysts who develop heaps of plans amaze me all the time, intending to deploy Ukrainian geopolitics in a western direction and include Ukraine in the security architecture of the Euro-Atlantic world” - utopia. I am surprised by analysts who really consider the "security architecture of the Euro-Atlantic world" to be the reason for the coup in Ukraine. The main reason there is moneythat for the EU, that for the USA. And nothing more.

        The main reason is to create a war in the former Soviet space, with the hope of expanding hostilities, drawing Russia in and entering the territory of the Russian Federation !!!!!!!!!
        р
        1. +1
          9 October 2017 19: 27
          Quote: Reptiloid
          The main reason is to create a war in the former Soviet space, with the hope of expanding hostilities, drawing Russia in and entering the territory of the Russian Federation !!!!!!!!!

          "Get into the territory of the Russian Federation" - by what forces? Who will go on a direct confrontation with a nuclear power? Today in the West there are no charismatics, just as there are no thoughtless fanatics striving to "expand the space" in the clouds of radioactive fallout after using tactical nuclear weapons. Today in the West, cosmopolitans and other "minorities" are in great fashion. The main danger is internal turbulence in the country. Therefore, if enemies direct their energy to where, then mainly to create internal tensions in our country. The example of the USSR, in this case, is very revealing.
    5. +2
      8 October 2017 20: 52
      Quote: Belyash
      I think Russia has lost more money from all this Ukrainian history.

      In what it lost, in what it won. But Ukraine so far only lost
    6. +1
      8 October 2017 22: 15
      And do not they say "if the problem can be solved with money, then this is not a problem, it is Costs"! tongue
    7. 0
      9 October 2017 00: 36
      For the sake of that, Ukraine was originally created.
    8. 0
      9 October 2017 02: 05
      Let's compare with the acquisitions - how much is the Crimea today?
      "Buy land - they don’t make it anymore"
      (c) Mark Twain
      1. 0
        10 October 2017 11: 10
        Twain did not know about this:
        http://www.bbc.com/russian/rolling_news/2015/05/1
        50527_rn_ash_carter_china_disputed_territory
    9. 0
      9 October 2017 09: 46
      Russia compensated for everything with Crimea!
      1. +4
        9 October 2017 10: 42
        Crimea is the most subsidized region just comparable to Yakutia. And this is not counting the construction sites there. Russia is working in Crimea.
        1. 0
          9 October 2017 15: 09
          Quote: Ken71
          Crimea is the most subsidized region just comparable to Yakutia. And this is not counting the construction sites there. Russia is working in Crimea.

          Yakutia accounts for 25% of global diamond production and is it subsidized? what kind of fiction? I’m not talking about gold, uranium, tin, oil, gas, coal, platinum, silver, and as for the Crimea, it’s not just Africa, but its own, Russian zemstvo, and it would be strange to spare funds for its arrangement in order to get profit, you must first invest some money
          1. +1
            9 October 2017 16: 10
            Have you been banned in Google? See for yourself. This is our budget structure.
        2. 0
          9 October 2017 15: 35
          By the way, the Rostov region is also considered a subsidized region, so can it be given to Ukraine, along with Crimea? Grants are funds primarily aimed at creating vital infrastructure, which ultimately benefits the whole country
          1. +2
            9 October 2017 16: 12
            I said somewhere what to give? We did the stupidity we took. But to give will be stupidity and meanness of universal proportions. Therefore, we will feed. And subsidized regions make up the majority.
            1. +1
              9 October 2017 16: 53
              that they returned Crimea is not stupidity, it is the right decision, stupidity, that they did not return all of New Russia. Actually, it wasn’t in the Crimea, if there hadn’t been Crimea, there would have been something else, and Russia would have gotten sanctions anyway, everything’s going on, not Russia has brewed all this mess, Crimea is a consequence, but if The United States did not intervene in the internal affairs of Ukraine, Crimea and would now be Ukrainian
              1. 0
                9 October 2017 17: 25
                In Crimea, everyone has their own opinion. I believe that taking advantage of the weakness and scatter of a neighbor is not entirely good. Your right to consider differently. But regarding the return, our opinion coincides.
                1. +1
                  10 October 2017 10: 59
                  Quote: Ken71
                  ... I believe that using a neighbor’s weakness and scatter is not entirely good ...


                  Are you talking about the fact that Khrushchev took advantage of his position and chopped off the Crimea in favor of Ukraine?
            2. +2
              9 October 2017 17: 13
              Quote: Ken71
              I said somewhere what to give? We did the stupidity we took. But to give will be stupidity and meanness of universal proportions. Therefore, we will feed. And subsidized regions make up the majority.

              Moscow seems to be not a subsidized region, but in fact all of Russia feeds it laughing and they try not to pedal this topic especially, but as for Crimea, liberal media raise a universal howl
              1. +1
                9 October 2017 17: 26
                You will be surprised if all the same give yourself the trouble to look at the statistics.
                1. 0
                  9 October 2017 18: 43
                  It depends on how you count, statistics, you know, the young lady is windy, remember the saying - the law that draws where you turn, it happened ... so here, one thing is written on the fence, and there is firewood request
        3. 0
          14 October 2017 07: 39
          To get something, you must first invest there. Today we work, we will receive tomorrow. Political and economic dividends from the bridge, roads, Artek already exist.
    10. +1
      9 October 2017 12: 18
      Quote: Belyash
      Russia lost more money from all this Ukrainian history.

      That's right. Although it’s more correct to speak not about Russia, but about the population, and not about Ukrainian history, but about the history of Russia.
    11. +3
      9 October 2017 15: 29
      Quote: Belyash
      I think Russia has lost more money from all this Ukrainian history.

      Money can be earned. Russia has only lost money. And Ukraine is an opportunity to earn this money. If Russia can still exist without Ukraine, then Ukraine without Russia is heading into the abyss.
    12. +8
      9 October 2017 23: 49
      . Russia has lost more money
      . More than who? More than when?
      Dear bakery product, what else can you think about? Only about other people's money ..? .. Count yours and you will still have a contented smile, a healthy complexion, a good dream and an excellent appetite. laughing
    13. 0
      10 October 2017 11: 26
      All this Ukrainian history, this is the essence of Western politics at the request of Russia of its place in the geopolitical alignment of the World. I think that the whole driban and tear of Krajina is a late reaction of the West to the strengthening of Russia "destroyed to shreds" and the loss of a very sweet cake - the Crimea and the middle of the Black Sea. The Americans have already celebrated their victory over Russia, and then they looked around and even cry, there is no Crimea, there is no shale gas, and there are 35 million leftovers and parasites left to feed. Nothing to do with “Ukrainian history”, they are just another flock of sheep, which trampled their pasture, their land with fury.
  2. +4
    8 October 2017 16: 05
    Smart learn from the mistakes of others, the Druaks on their own .. Country 404 does not want to learn at all .. An example of the Baltic States is not enough ... Type: abroad will help us .. Well, well, you need her with your mob ...
    1. +2
      9 October 2017 00: 37
      It was created to harm Russia. She cannot deviate from this plan - it will destroy her.
    2. +4
      9 October 2017 15: 39
      Quote: parusnik
      Smart learn from the mistakes of others, the Druaks on their own .. Country 404 does not want to learn at all ..

      Yes, no one ever learns from any mistakes, and never studied. It all depends on the elite! If Yeltsin reigned in Russia now, then they would sing to him the same praises as Putin! And everyone would vote, not for United Russia, but for the Union of Right Forces. Do you think people in Russia are independent? Don’t tell! Nothing depends on people.
      In Ukraine, exactly the same Russian people as in Russia, only duped. In Russia, too, fooled, only in the opposite direction.
      1. 0
        9 October 2017 16: 37
        And I just didn’t mean the people .. moreover ...
        1. +4
          10 October 2017 08: 56
          If you spoke about the elite, then yes. I agree with you.
  3. +5
    8 October 2017 16: 07
    Of course, Russia suffers losses because of this garbage, but this forces the authorities to at least do something. And so everyone would continue to feel sick and hope for expensive oil, without investing in agriculture or infrastructure. You will see how they combed over the past two years, repairing roads throughout the country, and most of them are thoroughly genuine ..
    1. +3
      8 October 2017 19: 33
      Quote: AwaZ
      You will see how they combed over the past two years, repairing roads throughout the country, and most of them are thoroughly genuine ..

      What, right? I’m not lazy, I’ll drive through the Shakhty-Tsimlyansk a / d today. There, the potholes have been terrifying since the discovery, relatively recent. Rather combed? Would it be with him? Or the main road builder of the region went to Rostov in a measure and is this the reason for the intolerable scabies of the October DRSU?
      1. 0
        8 October 2017 22: 28
        Quote: 97110
        I’ll drive through the Shakhty-Tsimlyansk a / d today

        I drove through. Thanks to the dry and hot summer, which the road workers did not interfere with, the condition of the road improved significantly after spring patching. But even such a summer could not correct the drawdown of the roadway, one of which I entered near Markin, driving away with an oncoming truck. The roll that appeared was enough to scare my wife to a shrill screech. Where road builders rest, it is M-4. From the junction on Novochek almost to the Mines 2 lanes, the rest is repaired. Sunday evening provided sparing traffic, I saw the traffic jam only in the direction of Rostov, but I did not need to go there.
      2. 0
        9 October 2017 09: 56
        I do not know about your road. I just see and experience it in my own skin, that is, in my car ... This summer I went for a drive in the Volga region ... I can even say that the roads are of decent quality. And if you compare with what I saw in September, riding around Rome, the roads are generally in perfect almost perfect condition. in the vicinity of Rome, I came across probably similar roads to yours, such as those that were at the beginning of the zero in the Russian Federation, continuous pits and potholes, sometimes splashed and sometimes not repaired for more than one year probably ..
        And what prevents you from pressing local authorities? In our poor city, when we began to build and repair roads three years ago, doing it anyhow, it was worth the people to begin to be indignant, although with a scratch, but they began to correct it.
        If you just moan in social networks, no one will do anything for you. They’ll cut the loot, they’ll show it on TV and that's it ...
      3. +1
        9 October 2017 11: 54
        They do it with the intention of making them paid))))
  4. +6
    8 October 2017 16: 26
    Another prayer for "Ukrainian Yellowstone" .... Ukraine has been living in "stable instability" for 25 years. ... used to ... Ukraine quite successfully parasitizes on the anti-Russian plans of the West. Only Donbass residents have problems from this. ... Gazprom revives the negotiations on transit after September for the whole of September. If anyone "finally bends" - then this is the "idea of ​​the Russian world."
    ps I hope that Kamenev and Nail are not the same person.
    1. +1
      8 October 2017 17: 19
      Gazprom depicts a move to appease the EC. But now the EC has much bigger problems in this regard than before. EU legal services have generally called into question the competence of the EC to meddle in the construction of sp2. Someone paid or pressed them and this is not Putin.
  5. +5
    8 October 2017 17: 10
    Enough of these "fraternal" peoples, we have not lived in one country for a long time, only to promote our own interests, to calculate profitably and unfavorably. laughing
    1. 0
      9 October 2017 13: 25
      Quote: Proton
      And Castryland person to tighten the crane more tightly.

      And throw the keys into the Mariana Trench, let them deepen and increase.
  6. +7
    8 October 2017 17: 23
    And when Russia stops paying for transit, for Kiev it’s will be a real shock.

    The revenue side of Ukraine’s budget is approximately 41 billion dollars. Revenues from the transit of Russian gas 2 billion dollars. Let's just say that the loss of 2 billion is a problem, but not a shock or collapse. And it’s not a fact that in 2019 the transit will end.
    1. +3
      8 October 2017 17: 41
      In fact, according to their Ministry of Finance, the planned income of Ukraine for 17 years is 731 billion hryvnias. That is, there are about 28 billion dollars. And this is mainly domestic revenue. 2 billion dollars falling out is 7 percent. That is already a disaster. And taking into account the fact that this is a currency, this is an apocalypse. And given the fact that there remains a huge ownerless infrastructure ....
      1. 0
        8 October 2017 22: 58
        2 billion dollars falling out is 7 percent. That is already a disaster.
        Well, the hryvnia is devalued to forty to the dollar, not in the first and indeed business. Infrastructure - if not used, they will be stolen in a year, or even earlier. There, a more interesting picture emerges with another - uncontrolled growth in imports, the more money from guest workers - the more imports (the price becomes equivalent to Eastern Europe, the incentive to do something by itself is killed in the bud).
        1. 0
          9 October 2017 06: 44
          Import requires currency. Which is bought at the interbank market. Currencies are sold by the Central Bank. If there is no currency, then they will remain without import in the conditions of killed own production. Sadness is aggravated. Devaluation will not lead to anything. Only additional IMF infusion. Or Europe will.
          1. +1
            9 October 2017 08: 24
            Look at the influx of currency from guest workers, it is increasing every year, given the fact that the population is actively squeezed out thanks to reforms:
            health care reform
            education reform
            pension reform

            From Poland alone it is expected in 17 from 3 to 5 billion dollars. It is clear that this is not forever, but enough for the coming years, and no one looks further into 404.
            1. 0
              9 October 2017 10: 39
              The currency of the gastros goes past the Ministry of Finance.
              1. 0
                9 October 2017 11: 36
                1) The foreign exchange market 404 is more than manageable.

                2)
                The currency of the gastros goes past the Ministry of Finance.
                - How does this prevent the increase in the share of imports.
                1. 0
                  9 October 2017 12: 30
                  Minfin.com.ua will read time.
                  1. 0
                    9 October 2017 13: 08
                    1) If they raise the price of gas to 8 thousand, the whole macro plan for the current year will crumble - this is not news.

                    2) The price of gas for the population has not yet been determined. And this is still a question.

                    3) Dividends are withdrawn by those who are allowed to withdraw them.
                  2. 0
                    9 October 2017 13: 12
                    And if you are talking about the budget rate of + - 30 hryvnias, then I’m telling you about this - spring and early summer passed under the slogans of revaluation of the hryvnia (the puppeteers have already bought the currency).
                    1. 0
                      9 October 2017 13: 43
                      I'm talking about the fact that currency has actually become more difficult to get. No Donbass dies metallurgy. Remained transit and agricultural. And the same coal is purchased for currency. No appreciation of the hryvnia will not give an inflow of foreign currency for external purchases. Belarusians have the same problem.
                      1. 0
                        9 October 2017 13: 56
                        I tell you again: the more migrant workers, the greater the influx of currency. In the short run it will be so.

                        - Metallurgy is the problem of Akhmetov, Pinchuk and others like them.
                        - The hryvnia appreciation is the second time: it is lowered before the ransom, and raised after the ransom.
  7. +6
    8 October 2017 17: 54
    Another "funeral" .... And I look out the window, I see the corner of the exchanger with red numbers, recently curtailed the business tent and quietly pray that this mourning "event" would not happen. Come on, author, burn on! Only go out at least sometimes ....
    1. +2
      8 October 2017 21: 07
      I put a plus, tired of the funeral.
  8. +3
    8 October 2017 20: 37
    Kamenev’s website has a competitor. Will Bolivar endure two? As if disassembly between sharks of feathers did not begin.
  9. +1
    8 October 2017 22: 57
    Quote: Belyash
    I think Russia has lost more money from all this Ukrainian history.

    ---------------------------------
    Do you suggest losing more or all?
    1. +1
      9 October 2017 16: 30
      Pyndos for the year put the "svogo" president. Who prevented Russia from doing the same? For 25 years.
  10. +1
    9 October 2017 00: 36
    Unionists, in the east of Ukraine. Separatists in Kiev.
  11. +4
    9 October 2017 02: 48
    Russia should abandon transit through Ukraine for a long time and close the border with this country
  12. 0
    9 October 2017 06: 17
    The traditional liberal exchange - transit revenues were exchanged for IMF payments, which will rise to a peak just in 2019.

    They also like to change the industry for gay parades.
    Retirement benefits, medicine and education - for visa-free travel.
    Sovereignty at the cries of "Rednecks with us!"
  13. 0
    9 October 2017 11: 58
    And what prevents you from pressing local authorities?
    You will be accused of supporting Navalny, officials have all the moves the outputs are recorded. and the "historical" fear that the state is with you without fail. will do something.
  14. 0
    9 October 2017 12: 15
    Until 2019, we still need to survive.
  15. +1
    9 October 2017 14: 06
    Astoria,
    You don't seem to understand what you are writing about. What comes from private individuals, of course, goes through interchange exchanges to the interbank but is not controlled by the Ministry of Finance and this source is not stable and predictable. And also for the most part it turns on black. And foreign exchange earnings from transit can be taken into account in the plans.
    1. 0
      9 October 2017 15: 19
      God sees you with a cork tree. laughing The inflow of currency from migrant workers is already several times higher than the flow of currency from transit. Do not litter the ether with wooden stubbornness lol
      1. 0
        9 October 2017 16: 08
        Forget about the gastras. What goes through them in the revenue side of the budget is NOT ACCOUNTED. Try to think. We are talking about a BUDGET. Do not be stupid.
        1. 0
          9 October 2017 18: 03
          What are you sticking to the budget, it is in hryvnias, tomorrow the hryvnia will devalue and the budget will double. Hryvnia can be printed like toilet paper, however they are already toilet paper. Debts in foreign currency. Gas transit at present yields $ 2 billion, gas from Russia and Poland alone is over 5-6. But I don’t even want to wipe Ukrainian forecasts — for three years now they have been promising the IMF privatization and putting it into the budget every year (about 20 billion hryvnias every year) —and they cannot collect even three kopecks. lol
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            9 October 2017 19: 34
            I stuck to the budget because it was we who initially discussed what I tried to inform you several times. I hope your work is not related to the need to think.
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              9 October 2017 21: 15
              I stuck to the budget because it was we who initially discussed it
              and in this way, the argument that cash flow from guest workers covers the shortfall in transit income does not fit into your worldview of things. laughing

              But this is not the point. laughing although I have a strange belief that your intellectual existence from virginity was pierced by the thought: “Mom didn’t want, dad didn’t try” laughing
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    9 October 2017 18: 11
    In fact, they have already found a very good move - to provide Europeans with hubs. Switzerland has already taken advantage of this rather cheap offer. But Russia has lost a lot from inertia, toothlessness and faith in the impossible that the Nazis will have a conscience.
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    10 October 2017 12: 05
    Russia has lost the most important friend and ally at hand. And in the modern world of friends in the daytime with fire you will not find.
    Now you need to always beat ready to get an awl in the kidney.
    And besides, now at night you have to sleep with your eyes open so that Bandera doesn’t come))))
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      10 October 2017 19: 50
      Quote: John Doe
      Russia has lost the most important friend and ally at hand. And in the modern world of friends in the daytime with fire you will not find.
      Now you need to always beat ready to get an awl in the kidney.
      And besides, now at night you have to sleep with your eyes open so that Bandera doesn’t come))))

      This is not Russia lost. This is Urkain for sale)))
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    11 October 2017 15: 41
    The complete collapse of the economy will not be anywhere and never.
    There will be a hole in the economy, then there will be a default, and then there will be a new budget on new conditions.
    Everything will be like ours in due time.

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