Tskhinval: a chronicle of destruction

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Tskhinval: a chronicle of destruction 1 August 2008 was attended by officers of the Ministry of the Interior of South Ossetia - personnel officers and riot policemen in Vladikavkaz. They appealed to the Ossetian branch of the Union of Paratroopers of Russia and to the Cossacks with a request to help equip riot policemen with professionals: snipers, specialists in mine-demolition, operators of the BMP (infantry fighting vehicle. - Ed.) And BMD (airborne combat vehicle. - Ed.). I say to their representative colonel: “Tomorrow is the Day of the Airborne Forces. Every year on this day, we first commemorate our fallen comrades, and then the holiday itself begins - the day of the Airborne Forces. Come by ten o'clock in the morning to the Walk of Fame, where the guys who died in the Ingush events at the beginning of the 90s and in Chechnya are buried. I will introduce you, and you yourself will tell specifically who you need and in what quantities, how many people. ”

In the morning of August 2 by ten in the morning they did not come. We waited for them, waited. And it was almost twelve o'clock in the afternoon. I started calling South Ossetia to congratulate our paratroopers. And they say to me: “On the night from first to second, Georgians — snipers and mortar gunners — fired upon Tskhinval, six people died, more than ten were wounded. So we are not up to the holiday. ” I understood why their representatives were not with us. At night, when they were informed about the shelling, they all urgently left for Tskhinval.

We have already remembered the dead, drank for the holiday. Therefore, I didn’t say anything about the shelling to the guys - but they were all in a samurai mood and would have gone on foot to Tskhinval without stopping. I just said to my asset: "We are meeting tomorrow, we need to discuss some issue."

On the third of August, I told them what had happened on the night from the first to the second of August and that the Ministry of Interior of South Ossetia was asking for help from people. The guys answer me: “You, commander, go to the place and figure it out yourself: who they need, how many people. We will need then three or four days: for someone to quit their job, for someone to arrange their own vacation, for someone to complete household chores. ”

On the night of August 4 and 5, I and five other paratroopers left for Tskhinval. We arrived at five in the morning. The leadership of the republic assigned us to the Ossetian battalion fighters who stood in Khetagurovo. This is the first settlement on the way from the Georgian positions to Tskhinval. It is shaped like a horseshoe and is surrounded on the perimeter by Georgian villages.

On the sixth of August there were two strongest shelling of Khetagurovo. I sent an SMS message to the Chairman of the Union of Paratroopers of Russia, Colonel-General Vladislav Alekseevich Achalov. He immediately called me back. Just went fight. I even picked up the phone in the direction that he himself heard what was happening.

The problem at that time was that against our hand grenade launchers and small weapons the Georgians had mortars, infantry fighting vehicles, that is, heavy weapons. Forces because of this, we were unequal with them.

The village of Khetagurovo itself is located on a high-rise. And on another high-rise about a kilometer, if in a straight line, the Georgians built a fortified area. There they buried BMP-2 in the caponiers, made long-term firing points. They also had mortars and heavy machine guns there.

Ossetian fighters were dispersed at checkpoints, which are located between Khetagurovo and Georgian villages. But the Georgians were mostly firing at the village itself. There were a lot of inhabitants in it, because they basically had nowhere to go. I have already spoken about the shape of the village in the form of a horseshoe. In Tskhinval it was possible to leave only along the Zar road, the section of which was well fired from the Georgian villages.

The goal of the Georgians was obvious: to inflict maximum losses on the civilian population, so that people would panic and start fleeing the village. The fact is that Khetagurovo was, as the military usually says, a tank-dangerous direction. It is through Khetagurovo Georgians Tanks and then entered into Tskhinval. And shelling is a fire preparation before a tank attack. Only usually in such cases, fire is fought at the enemy’s combat positions and their defensive structures. And here the Georgians leveled the village itself with the civilians.

Achalov says to me: “Go to Tskhinval to the Minister of Defense of South Ossetia, tell us about the situation and explain what is missing for organizing the defense. I, for my part, will go out to the First Deputy Minister of Defense of Russia, who previously commanded the Airborne Forces, and talk about the situation. ”

The first shelling lasted two and a half hours. After talking with Achalov, I turned to the commander of the Ossetian battalion. He gave me a car with a driver, and I went to Tskhinval to the Minister of Defense, Major General Vasily Vasilyevich Lunev, and told him about the situation. And he answers me: “I sent a request two months ago, where it should be, just for heavy weapons. But for now, silence. ” I also told him about the conversation with Achalov. And he told me: “It is inconvenient to act somehow over the head of my leadership.” And I sit and think to myself: “You, brother, the war begins, and you think about the chain of command”. But I didn't say anything out loud - he is still a general, I can't talk to him like that.

On that day, just during a meeting of the security forces of South Ossetia in Tskhinval, where I was present, there was the second strong shelling of Khetagurovo. Therefore, on the night of August 7, the South Ossetian Defense Ministry sent three T-55 tanks and two infantry combat vehicles to Khetagurovo. By the way, all the armored forces of South Ossetia at that time consisted of five T-55 tanks of the 1955 model of the year. And these three tanks began an artillery duel with Georgian fortified skyscrapers, from where they fired at Khetagurovo.

Says tankman Vladimir V .:

- In Khetagurovo we arrived in the morning of August 7. We were given the task of destroying the Georgian fortified area, which was located on a high-rise building near Khetagurovo. In 2004, the Georgians beat off this high-rise. And over the next four years, this fortified region “drank all the blood” from those who were in Khatugurovo: from there, shelling of the village itself and the positions of our fighters around it constantly went.

We discovered the Georgian positions in advance and knew that the Georgians had a tank, infantry fighting vehicles and "bassoons" (anti-tank missile systems. - Ed.). We decided to use the so-called “tactics of jump” against the Georgians. This is quite a risky venture, but it has produced results. The bottom line is this: our infantry fighting vehicle leaves the shelter for an open place, opens fire on Georgian positions and moves back as quickly as possible. The Georgians, of course, answer: they hit the place from where the BMP fired. But she is no longer there, she has departed. And at this moment we mark their firing points. Then our tank goes straight, makes several shots and also moves back.

The fight turned out to be transient, lasted no more than an hour. We had to go out on direct fire three times. In the tank I had a full ammunition - forty-one projectile. We fired quite intensively, and I fired all the shells, except fifteen armor-piercing. They shoot in this situation was useless: after all, it's just iron bars.

According to the results, we can say that we shot out successfully, almost every shot found its target. Georgian tank, BMP and almost all those who were on the high-rise, were destroyed. After the war, I climbed to this height, and then I talked with the residents of the surrounding villages. They said that after this battle, about forty Georgians were left to lie here.

Yes, one more thing that is interesting. Then, precisely on the seventh of August, television journalists from one of the Russian channels worked in Khetagurovo. The battle began, and they were shooting with television cameras, and at the same time we were still assigned tasks: turn the tower there, turn here ... I had to get out of the tank and send them to hell. And just at that moment, a shell is torn right next to the TV people. The place is swampy there, so the correspondent was covered with mud from head to toe ... We thought that he, for sure, had come to an end, because the gap was very close. We run up - and he is all dirty, his eyes blink. But - not a single scratch! ..

When the battle was over, the connection was almost completely lost: the Georgians began to jam her. And sometimes the connection appeared again. But, as it turned out, just at this very moment the Georgians recorded our negotiations.

Our shells are over, there was no place to fill the tanks, so we had to leave Khetagurovo to Tskhinval. And at four o'clock in the morning of the 8th of August, Georgian troops already entered Khetagurovo. Our tanks, on the same day, transferred even further, to Java. After all, the Russian troops, who had already begun to approach Tskhinval, in the heat of battle could well have confused the Ossetian tanks with the Georgian ones.

Alexander Yanovich Slanov reports:

“The stronghold in the high-rise managed to destroy.” But then the Georgians began to shoot at Khetagurovo from 152-millimeter self-propelled guns (self-propelled artillery. - Ed.). These installations were in the neighboring Georgian villages at a distance of no more than five kilometers. Two and a half or three long-suffering Khetagurovo Georgians from these "saushek" ironed for about an hour.

Our T-55 tanks are very old. And their lifespan was almost fully developed, and their ammunition was also old. And in general, after the intensive battle, our shells are almost gone. Therefore, our tank crews could no longer fully continue the artillery duel with Georgian self-propelled guns.

In Tskhinval, on the afternoon of the seventh of August, it became known that Saakashvilli was on television and announced a truce. Our attitude to his speech was twofold. It seems that he officially announced a truce, in fact, this is a serious statement, so, at least, it should be. Therefore, we still had hope for peace.

I left Khetagurovo to meet with the Minister of the Interior in order to discuss the issue for which I ended up here - the recruitment of riot police. My friend, who came to Khetagurovo to pick me up, took me from there. The minister said that he was going to negotiate with the Georgians. Then he says: “Tomorrow, come at ten o'clock, we'll talk more with you.” Then there were already problems with gasoline. A friend suggested to me: “Come on, you will spend the night with me, so as not to drive the car back and forth. And tomorrow, after talking with the minister, I will take you to Khetagurovo. ”

At half past eleven on the night of August 7, the first mines and shells flew to Tskhinval, and then the city began to work. Many people in the city were already asleep at that time. Someone else was watching TV, someone was late with dinner. And here begins a massive artillery fire on the sleeping, essentially, city. Worked very methodically and in an organized way. CITES will produce a volley, begin to reload - at this time beat 152-millimeter SAU and 120-millimeter mortars. Everything was thought out by them.

But tanks could enter Tskhinval practically only through Khetagurovo. Our fighters, who were mostly scattered around checkpoints, were ordered to retreat to Java along the Zar road. It hurt the forces were unequal. Hand grenade launchers, which were ours, hit only six hundred and fifty meters. And the tank has a direct shot range of almost two kilometers. Therefore, the Georgians, whose tanks entered Khetagurovo at four o'clock in the morning, the village, one might say, was simply rolled out by the caterpillars as they wanted ...

On the morning of August 8, “rooks” appeared over Tskhinval (SU-25, a front bomber. - Ed.). They flew very low, it was clear that they were camouflage. The people thought it was the “rooks” of the Russian people, people ran out into the streets - they wave their hands, greet them. And Georgian aircraft at this time turned around and hit the civilian population with rockets.

By two o'clock the Georgians occupied more than half of Tskhinval. There was resistance all over the city. Some of our fighters managed to move away, while others remained in the rear of the Georgians. As they advanced through the city, their artillery carried fire to those areas that had not yet been captured so that they would not strike at their own. I myself was at this time in the area of ​​Tekstilshchiki. On it the fire of hail practically did not stop. Minutes for three intensity subsided, although at this time shells from SAU and mines flew all the same. And then again began to work hail.

I can say for sure that the residents of Tskhinvali held together very closely. They helped each other, hid in their basements those who had no basements. Panic, too, was not special. But there was an absolute understanding: hope is only for Russia. Everyone was waiting: well, when will the Russian troops finally appear? ..

At around three o'clock in the afternoon of the eighth of August, Russian military commanders went on the radio. We began to request ours by their call sign: "Where are you, go to the position." They answer: “Good. Will there be any help? ” Answer: "Yes, there will be help." But, as far as I know, by that time the Russian troops had not entered the territory of South Ossetia.

Our fighters from the Ministry of Defense of South Ossetia, the Interior Ministry, the KGB, the militia regrouped and attacked the Georgians. In the city, having hand grenade launchers, it is already possible to fight with tanks, infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers. Remember how many of our tanks were shot down at the time of the storming of Grozny. I don’t know how many units of Georgian armored vehicles were shot down. But the figure sounded: about twenty-five. On the streets there are many dead Georgians. When they were attacked, they began to run into houses, hide ...

I was near the radio station, which worked on the wave, where our field commanders conducted negotiations among themselves. They asked each other about the situation in the area of ​​responsibility, coordinated actions. And through their talks, it became clear that by eight o'clock in the evening Tskhinval had been practically cleared. About nine o'clock two BMPs were shot down and two more BMPs were captured. Besides, the villages near Tskhinval were also cleaned.

Shelling continued all night from eighth to ninth. Again, dozens of hailstones, self-propelled guns and mortars hit the city again. On the morning of August 9, their attack aircraft again bombed the city. On the morning of August 9, closer to the dinner, Anatoly Konstantinovich Barankevich went on the air. Previously, he was the Minister of Defense of South Ossetia, then became secretary of the Security Council. He himself was also in Tskhinval on the eighth of August, personally knocked out a tank. He requested the call of the field commanders. Those reported to him the situation. The negotiations were, of course, conditional codes. Barankevich, in turn, was visited by a representative of the Russian troops, his call sign was “Strelok” (the call sign was changed. - Ed.).

Our commanders reported to Barankevich that they were observing a large accumulation of Georgian infantry and about one hundred and fifty armored vehicles. They called the coordinates. Barankevich gave these coordinates to Strelka and said: “Guys, cover them while they are in the area of ​​waiting or concentrating.” They replied: "We understand you, now we will cover with artillery." An hour and a half or two hours passed, but the Russian troops did not open fire on the gathering of Georgian manpower and equipment ...

I myself was all in the same area Tekstilshchiki. He was constantly upstairs, but somewhere for dinner he went down to the basement, where the radio station was located, to listen to the latest news. Women cry. I ask: "What happened?". They answer: “The commanders on the radio report that the grenade rounds are almost over. From the district, which is popularly called Shanghai, Georgian troops began to enter the city again. ”

Resistance to the Georgians was still, our guys rested to the last. But already had problems with ammunition, especially with rocket-propelled grenades. Without this, how to fight tanks? I heard the field commanders interrogate each other about what was left of them, and discussed how to keep the defense going. And the situation has reached the point that the Georgians have already begun stripping in the areas through which they entered Tskhinval. As far as I know, twelve thousand Georgian infantrymen and about one hundred and fifty armored vehicles entered that day. There were still no Russian troops in Tskhinval.

Then, in this critical situation, the decision was made: as long as there is an opportunity, to break through and take out the women who were in the basements to Java. There are two Zar roads: one is old, the other is new, a bypass. The women and I went to the old Zar road, I was on it for the first time in my life.

When we climbed the mountain, the view of Tskhinval opened. He looked like Stalingrad. There were several Russian infantry fighting vehicles on the road, but they did not enter the city ... Further along the road, Georgian villages met. There we were fired at by the Georgian BMP-2. I did not immediately notice her, she was camouflaged. Our BMP is all painted khaki. God bless this Georgian - ֪ BMP operator - because he didn’t get into us. We are on a white old gazelle barely crawling up the hill. He turned four rounds, and they lay right next to the gazelle. He shot from the bottom up, but the distance in a straight line was only about three hundred or four hundred meters which meant he could have been blown apart. I don’t know: whether he didn’t want to hit us, or he somehow didn’t take the target.

We jumped over the mountain and began to descend. Here we were shot at from a PC (Kalashnikov machine gun. - Ed.). It's good that we went under the slope, and they, it seems, only at the last moment we noticed. They gave a long line to the tracer, but according to us, thank God, they did not hit either.

Then we drove up to some village, where Russian tanks were already equipped with active armor, with guards badges on the hatches. We saw how wounded Russian soldiers were loaded into "Urals". Then we jumped out of the old Zar road to a new one. And our “sushki” were already there, at regular intervals - “Tunguski” (an anti-aircraft missile-gun complex for fighting air targets. - Ed.). And when we descended along the serpentine road to Java, we saw Russian tanks and armored vehicles marching towards us ... And at that moment we felt that victory would be ours.

The most terrible thing in all this nightmare was the doubt that the Russian leadership in general would decide on the deployment of troops. When I went down to the basement, the women cried because more than half of the city Georgians took. Stripping began, information appeared about the destruction of the civilian population. And women with crying asked: “Where is Russia, did she really leave us?” But Russia, thank God, did not abandon them in trouble.
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  1. +16
    23 March 2012 07: 43
    Thanks for posting this article. Eyewitness accounts are the most valuable and complete source of information in any situation. Words of gratitude and low bow to our children who survived and died in this massacre. It is comforting that the lessons from this short-term war were nevertheless learned and that such a protracted reaction would not occur if such a thing were repeated. This is people's life - the most valuable and long deliberation, when defending it, should not be. It was pleasant to note the absence of panic among the residents of the city and among Russian fighters. Worthy guys of a worthy country. We were able to besiege the enemy and were able to teach him a lesson, I would very much like to - for a long time.
    1. +21
      23 March 2012 08: 07
      Until 08.08.08 Russia was looked at as an empty place. It was there and then that Russia first showed its teeth and forced itself to listen.
      Thank you guys, you didn’t just save people, you did much more for all of us!
      1. +7
        23 March 2012 08: 54
        Thanks to those who defended our southern borders and helped our neighbor in difficult times. A saak must be given as a matter of urgency so that it flies back to America, to its brethren, without prejudice. And let him bring along all the swamp dregs in addition. It is a pity that Medvedev then was pensive and did not slam this cowardly p-a-dahl in his own den.
        1. +7
          23 March 2012 09: 06
          It was after this war that the rearmament of the army began. THIS WAR HAS BEEN CONFIRMED STRONGLY BY OUR ARMY NUMBER AND ABILITY, THE COURAGE OF SIMPLE PEOPLE, SOLDIERS AND OFFICERS !!!!!!!
  2. Sarus
    +8
    23 March 2012 07: 51
    You have to honor your story.
    Whatever she was.
    And remember how politicians can be duplicitous.
    I sincerely thank those who defended women and children.
    It is unfortunate that our troops were not allowed to shift this regime in Georgia ..
    Someone all the same sometimes history does not teach ...
  3. -1
    23 March 2012 08: 01
    For the objectivity of the picture, I would like to hear the opposite side.
    1. +7
      23 March 2012 08: 58
      Do you mean the Western mass-media nonsense about this or did you mean something else. If the Georgian side, then who will confess to you in your flight, throwing both weapons and equipment.
  4. Sarus
    +8
    23 March 2012 08: 09
    Laser yes what objectivity ...
    My family friend lives there ... He says that in general the population was not interested in the conflict with the US and especially the Russian Federation ..
    There, with the arrival of Mikhail, you can only hear anti-Russian statements ...
    The people themselves are tired of such enmity
  5. yorik_gagarin
    +5
    23 March 2012 09: 06
    Guys well done !!!
    Article live +
  6. raptor_fallout
    +4
    23 March 2012 09: 21
    Thanks to the author for the article! Plusanul it! And the Russian leadership needs to think about a faster deployment of troops and finally remove Comrade Serdyukov!
    1. +2
      23 March 2012 09: 41
      Well, given the supply of weapons to the Southern District, we are preparing for yet another act of aggression, we are preparing from Georgia.
    2. F751
      +4
      23 March 2012 10: 27
      Quote: raptor_fallout
      Comrade Serdyukov!

      He is not a friend to us.
      1. raptor_fallout
        +2
        23 March 2012 10: 36
        Quote: F751
        He is not a friend to us.

        A huge plus for this phrase! I was waiting for when they correct me! laughing I admit, with a friend I got excited!)
  7. +4
    23 March 2012 09: 31
    The article is a huge plus !!!
    Many thanks to the author! It would be useful to recall the events of those days. And the courage of our guys. Srakashvilli got a good lesson by receiving an army boot for a ya .. m. Blessed memory of the fallen in that war!
  8. +11
    23 March 2012 09: 32
    The Americans had a simple calculation (the fact that Mishiko himself started the war without a "master" is hard to believe) - having chosen the moment that was right in their opinion (VGK Medvedev is on vacation, Putin is in China at the Olympics) to organize a fleeting "blitzkrieg" in the hope that Russia as usual, he will not dare to interfere and will not have time (until it comes to an agreement until Putin arrives from China, etc.) the Georgians will occupy Tskhinvali, and South Ossetia will turn into another Kosovo, then they will act as peacekeepers and introduce their "peacekeeping forces" and here you are please another NATO base right in a strategically important place. As a result, everything turned out the other way around - South Ossetia gained independence and the tie-swallower with their "masters" had to keep good faces in case of a bad game.
  9. Trudy
    +2
    23 March 2012 09: 47
    We won and defended Abkhazia and South Ossetia in that war. This is undoubtedly excellent! But there is bad news: Georgia is arming itself again. If they are not completely fools, they will take into account past mistakes. Therefore, our military should not relax, but need to analyze and develop new methods of military operations, taking into account all factors.


    http://www.abkhaziya.org/server-articles/article-3c1faef04c28d3898238d5772428dc0

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    - The media, experts and politicians predict a new war in the Caucasus. Saakashvili’s regime seeks revenge. How real is this prospect?

    - The main factors indicating that Georgia is preparing a war again is the continued buildup of its military potential, unwillingness to recognize the results of the five-day war of 2008 and the incitement of Tbilisi by a number of NATO countries.

    Immediately after the end of the five-day war, US military advisers did a great job analyzing the causes of the defeat of the Georgian army. Recommendations were made on reforming the Armed Forces of Georgia, taking into account the fact that the next time they would have to face directly not only the power structures of Abkhazia and South Ossetia, but also the Russian army.

    Georgia is building up its military potential, and these are not just words. In particular, the offensive potential of its Ground Forces has increased significantly, which is reflected in the creation of the 2nd Artillery Brigade, the mass purchase of self-propelled artillery guns (self-propelled guns) and multiple launch rocket systems (MLRS) in Turkey. In addition, in Tbilisi, at the prompting of the Americans, they decided to reorganize the light infantry battalions of infantry brigades into mechanized battalions by equipping them with Turkish Ejder armored personnel carriers.

    By the way, the number of the regular army of Georgia Saakashvili brought up to 40 thousand people. Knowing the scale of Georgia and South Ossetia, any person who is more or less knowledgeable in military affairs will understand that this force is preparing to attack. The rest is misinformation, informational cover.
    1. +4
      23 March 2012 10: 13
      All of you, probably, correctly say, but the main potential of the army is its soldiers and commanders! For a serious war, they must be motivated, understand the goals and objectives and WANT to fulfill them !!! the presence of modern weapons is good, but, I think, the simple Georgian population DOES NOT WANT to fight with Russia, that is, with our people for no money!
      1. Trudy
        +1
        23 March 2012 10: 20
        I think the simple Georgian population DOES NOT WANT to fight with Russia, that is, with our people for no money!


        And who will he, the simple Georgian population, ask?
        In addition, such hysteria is being whipped up in Georgia about the "imperial ambitions of Russia" that almost the entire population is zombified. Something like this.
    2. jar0512rus
      +5
      23 March 2012 10: 46
      They will try and wash again and again. Only this time Mishiko will not get off so easily! Tanks will reach his residence and hang him on the armor for a tie !!!
      1. raptor_fallout
        +2
        23 March 2012 10: 51
        Quote: jar0512rus
        They will try and wash again and again. Only this time Mishiko will not get off so easily! Tanks will reach his residence and hang him on the armor for a tie !!!

        I think there will be a rocket or several. Mishiko threatens to be missing!
        1. jar0512rus
          +5
          23 March 2012 10: 59
          Live to take DEMON !!! But the rocket is also good if you can’t take it like that!
          1. raptor_fallout
            +4
            23 March 2012 11: 10
            Quote: jar0512rus
            Live to take DEMON !!! But the rocket is also good if you can’t take it like that!

            We live of course well, but it will stink !! )) And so where is Mishiko? There is none! He died the death of the brave! laughing .In the toilet at breakfast from a tie!
  10. rolik
    +6
    23 March 2012 10: 03
    Ascetic: Accordingly, yes. But a plus, you can add at the same time looked at the ability to limited military operations of our army. Moreover, if we draw parallels between our troops and NATO forces. That, in the end, our army was more effective in this company than the coalition forces in the same Iraq. Moreover, our weapons were not the latest models, including communications. And do not blame everything on the vigilance of Georgians. Of course, they are still fighters, but they again fought in the territory of their own. They were closer to their support bases. It means that everything in our army is not so bad, the main thing is that the military spirit is still high, despite the statements of some leaders. And some Georgian defenders don’t have to soar the brain that we couldn’t get to Tbilisi. Could walk, come back and walk a few more times. Most likely, in the wake of our monotony, Medvedev decided not to inflate even more hysteria around the world. Because, as in the Western editions, we would again be represented by the invaders occupying a small country. And I didn’t really want to mess with this possessed Mishiko after the capture of Tbilisi. Keep it in a cage, feed it with bananas. But the Westerners got a good example of the fact that despite the fact that our army is still armed for the most part with outdated equipment, it can worthily paint and bleed the adversary.
    1. +4
      23 March 2012 10: 40
      I agree, Roman. Apparently, how quickly the packages were opened and the units were deployed into battle formation, this situation was repeatedly worked out in military exercises and command and control squads. Moreover, it was an ordinary day off, the 58th Army football championship was held, vacations and dismissals were not canceled, no reinforcements and "task forces" were planned. And this is most encouraging in this situation.
  11. YARY
    +2
    23 March 2012 10: 03
    Still ahead unforgettable and draw conclusions!
    All losses in the technique of p and ndos have been reimbursed and again worth the wait.
    Until our flag is hoisted above Tbilisi, until this one is in court in Tskhinval, everything will be repeated.
  12. Trudy
    +1
    23 March 2012 11: 31
    And against this background, if the loaf climbs onto Tskhinval again, I would like our troops to reach Tbilisi, catch this ....., put the Georgian flag in it ....., cut off the Faberge and carefully democratize it am
  13. signalman
    +4
    23 March 2012 11: 37
    By the way, one of the know-how of that war was the creation of battalion maneuver groups, which ensured the success of that company.
  14. raptor_fallout
    +3
    23 March 2012 11: 43
    I liked the reportage on Russia 24, where they showed how the "Vostok" was transferred to Tskhinval laughing , the instructions were tough! They were even given money so that they would leave a compote in a broken house on the table. By and large, they did not fight, but they also made a rustle! Curious guys!
  15. +3
    23 March 2012 12: 03
    It is clear that a Mishiko-Georgian without a host would not have ventured into a gamble! The goals of the war 08.08.08: 1To resolve the territorial issue, respectively, the direct road to NATO 2 To humiliate Russia. It is clear that Georgia could not fight against Russia, even with the help of NATO, there would not be enough resources for this. Yes, this was not required. The Georgian army was to fight only 5-7 days. This time would be enough to occupy the territory, destroying a large part of the population. The calculation was that Russia, if it decided to answer, then it would take at least 58 days to prepare the 5th army.
    1. Trudy
      +1
      23 March 2012 12: 55
      I want to add one more subtlety that no one writes about.
      Yes, the curators directed Saakashvili, helped him with weapons and training. But there was one more aspect - remember Adjara? Aslan Abashidze? This operation to overthrow Abashidze Sahak with the promptings of his curators carried out, one might say, brilliantly. First led provocations (the same as before the war 08.08.08). Then the State Department announced to the whole world the support of Georgia to restore its territory. Aslan Abashidze, in order not to spill the blood of his compatriots, had to retire to Moscow. This operation added confidence to Saakashvili, maybe even turned her head.
      That is why in August 2008 he so boldly rushed to fight sleeping women and children.
  16. Nechai
    +3
    23 March 2012 13: 22
    Quote: Ascetic
    as usual dare not intervene

    Stanislav, remember, as early as in the morning blocks, the scandalous warning to Russia about not to dare to leave the Roksky tunnel, otherwise we! U! -U! -U! you. Poker is the favorite game of the Anglo-Saxon civilization.
  17. Comrade
    +1
    23 March 2012 23: 53
    I look out the window open
    And I see your peaks in it
    Tskhinval - we are one in souls
    If you burn, then I burn

    If you are shot and beaten
    I’m shot in my soul
    If the sight is aimed at you
    And the surviving city is burning

    I grieve and I with my soul
    Whole, under the grenade ruptures
    Alans soul burns with pain
    I am embraced by the same pain

    May I henceforth be far
    But with all my soul beside you
    We will not reconcile with the Georgian herd
    Forever and ever

    Cowards quietly attacked the civilian population and grabbed-lost their entire national team of the Ukrainian-Amer army.

    I think the commander of the army should be allowed to make his own decision, and not wait for the "Minister of Defense" to swing with his thought there.
    1. Odinplys
      0
      24 March 2012 01: 11
      Quote: Comrade
      I think the commander of the army should be allowed to make his own decision, and not wait for the "Minister of Defense" to swing with his thought there.

      I support ...
      The Minister of Defense woke up ... and they reported to him ... the capital of Georgia is under control ... Mishko ... in the trunk ...
      Allow the control shot ... or ...
      It would be shit ...
      And in the evening Putin ... (by phone) Obama ... don’t worry buddy ... tie We will return ... we understand the price now ...
  18. +2
    24 March 2012 15: 12
    I will take the liberty of voicing the most seditious thing - Georgia could win this war. And for this it was enough to deafly close the southern portal of the Roki (Transcaucasian) tunnel and the Kutkh pass closest to it (impassable for equipment) by forces of no more than an infantry battalion. This would give Georgia time (from several days to several weeks) sufficient to at least formally declare its protectorate over South Ossetia. Of course, in the future, Tbilisi would receive a sluggish guerrilla war (its Chechnya), but Mishan would achieve his ...
    To the greatest happiness, neither the Georgian General Staff nor the American (I exclude other countries) advisers provided this option either, and tritely repeated the mistake of the Russian general general of the Chechnya-94 model, having gotten stuck in urban battles ... However, if you trace the logic of events, it’s such a task for them and set. More precisely, the task was to storm and master Tskhinval (this time I wrote in accordance with grammar smile ), and taking him under full control ... Mishan himself even ordered to cook up a platform for the parade in honor of the victory over South Ossetia ... And according to the recognition of the Georgian military (had to communicate with them) they did not expect Russia to be so fast and so harshly reacts to the actions of the Georgian army ...

    And now to the possible repetition of an attempt to return South Ossetia to Georgia. If this is planned (and this is generally completely possible), then I think that taking into account all its mistakes, the Georgian army will set as its primary goal the mastery of the Roki tunnel, as well as the South Ossetian section of the Transcaucasian highway, in order to prevent the entry of forces into the territory of South Ossetia 58th Army ...
    For our part, it is also necessary to take into account such a development of the scenario and do everything to prevent it. And this is at least the deployment of units of the Russian army deployed in South Ossetia in the immediate vicinity of TransCAM ...

    PS Kudars (residents of South Ossetia) called and call TransKAM only as "The Road of Life". You can't say more precisely ...

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