Documentary lie. The events of August 2008-th according to Georgian journalists

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Documentary lie. The events of August 2008-th according to Georgian journalists
In the end, what is a lie? - Disguised truth.
George Gordon Byron


Documentary cinema at all times was distinguished by great efficacy on the viewer. Based on this situation, some forces tried to use the potential of this kind of art to solve highly specialized tasks. And as soon as the art of on-screen propaganda began to emerge from documentary films, it was already realized all over the world that it could be used not only to delineate views on a specific problem of a group of people, but also to shape public opinion. The truth is that in this case the word “documentary” can be safely removed and the epithet “propaganda” should be put in its place. Propaganda cinema is a cinema that aims to artificially substitute facts, deliberate distortion of the real state of things, psychological pressure on a person in order to create stable dominants, point lies in the name of achieving a single goal - convincing the viewer in a set of falsified facts.

It was this film (the end of 2008 of the year) that Georgian filmmakers, if I may say so, filmed, although their work has nothing to do with documentary. Removing his opus on the military conflict between Georgia and Russia 2008 year, the filmmakers saw the goal to turn the flow of misinformation, frame by frame, into some kind of immutable truth, which would remain in the minds of the viewer after watching. However, the Georgian work, ultimately, did not play the role that the authors wanted to endow with. The film is a kind of vaccination. It is the same as introducing a weakened virus to a healthy person, which will be suppressed by immunity, after which the human immune system acquires even greater potential. In the case of the Georgian film about the events of August 2008, the same thing happens with the human mind.

The leitmotif of the entire film is how the authors, on the basis of falsification of documents, try to show the world community, as a tiny but very proud Georgia, attacked a huge enemy and used truly disproportionate force on the basis of falsification of documents.

Consider a few key positions of the Georgian film.

Position 1.

Long before the beginning of the acute phase of the South Ossetian conflict, Russian troops arrived on the territory of South Ossetia. Russia created military bases here that literally cracked at the seams of the number of troops and military equipment. It was South Ossetia with the active support of Russia that began active hostilities against Georgia.

Comment.

Russia had a peacekeeping base on the territory of South Ossetia, the rotation of which contingent was indeed carried out constantly. However, this does not suggest that Russia has increased its military grouping in Tskhinvali and Java. The peacekeeping contingent of any state needs supplies of fuel, food, medicine, and periodic change of personnel and weapons. And if we take it as the militarization of the region, then all over the world peacekeepers only do what they do to the total militarization of the territories in which they carry out their mission.

Even if we take Saakashvili’s words about a planned increase in the number of Russian troops in South Ossetia for the truth (which was what the film ideologists wanted), then it’s not at all clear why the Georgian president didn’t warn his overseas puppeteers about it: they say, an attack is being prepared on Georgia. But instead of “bringing Russia out to the clear water,” Mr. Saakashvili suddenly took it upon himself to strike with his brave but small army against the Russian military “armada”. As far as we know, with Mikhail Nikolozovich's heroism, there are problems of a pronounced nature.

That is why the words that Russia was the first to begin the active phase of the operation in South Ossetia, shooting Tskhinvali from missile systems and from the sides of airplanes - an absolute lie, which has been proven, among other things, by Western journalists who do not have much sympathy to Russia.

Position 2.

Journalists of many central Russian TV channels and print media found themselves on the scene almost as early as the start of the South Ossetia operation itself. This suggests that the Russian side has clearly warned the entire Russian journalistic fraternity that the army is ready to begin the "occupation" of Georgian territory.

Comment.

If Russian journalists were en masse in the territory of South Ossetia, then the world would see shelling of the city not from outside, but through the eyes of operators located directly in Tskhinvali. Apparently, the Georgian customers of the film naively believe that 100% of Russian journalists of central television channels and print media fully and completely support the state policy of the Russian authorities, and therefore everyone literally conspired and agreed to not show the “atrocities” of Russian soldiers. But with the development of modern technologies, the world would instantly see how Russian technology “raises the earth” of the South Ossetian capital, realizing that thousands of civilians live in the city. At the same time, the filmmakers themselves apparently forget that the Georgian military gave interviews to journalists of Georgian television channels, stating that "constitutional order in South Ossetia is going according to plan." At the same time, everyone remembers the shots of the Georgian soldiers themselves, shot on a mobile phone’s camera, when they shot the city with heavy machine guns with indescribable enthusiasm. Where, then, was the Russian army, which, according to film-makers, had been strengthening its position in South Ossetia for almost a couple of months? Was she so afraid of the Georgian military that she hid all her hundreds tanks, Armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles? ..

And if we take the arguments of the authors of the film about the agreement of Russian journalists and the military seriously, then we could go even further: put Georgian identification marks on salvo fire systems and launch correspondents into the “rear of the enemy” so that they could completely falsify the situation. The world would then see from close range what mimicry the Russian “military” arranged. However, there was nothing of the kind, therefore it’s so groundless to talk about the warning of Russian journalists about the start of the operation that the position of the authors and customers of the film looks at least naive.

Position 3.

Russia staged a bloodbath in Georgia to recognize the independence of South Ossetia and Abkhazia. The operation “Clean Field” was developed in Russia, because there is not even such a phrase in the Georgian language.

Comment.

This view simply does not hold water. It turns out that Moscow ordered the destruction of Tskhinvali’s civilians and its own peacekeepers with the aim of calling Eduard Kokoity after some time the president of an independent state. And, one wonders, why did Moscow need such sacrifices, if it could more appropriately declare recognition of the independence of South Ossetia. And why, if you suddenly believe for a moment the authors of the Georgian film, did Moscow not start the destruction of civilians, for example, Sukhum or Gudauta for completeness, so to speak, of the picture?

Position 4.

Georgian soldiers acted as servicemen of exemplary courage, and the Russian army - as a demoralized, untrained and undisciplined gathering. Georgian troops simply lined the bodies of Russian soldiers in Tskhinvali and turned the military equipment of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation into burnt wrecks. Mikheil Saakashvili speaks of 400 killed Russian soldiers, and the Georgian news agency Medianews calls Russian losses just colossal: almost 1800 military personnel, 45 BTR, 105 tanks, 10 Gradov, 81 military vehicle, 5 Smerchey. At the same time, according to the Georgian side, the number of dead civilians in South Ossetia was no more than 50 people.

Comment.

Here, the authors really overtook the stick ... Probably, here the authors simply decided to swap two numbers: the number of Russian soldiers killed and the number of civilians killed. If so, then everything falls into place. It’s just that in a few days 1800 lost people killed (which is almost 40% of the losses of the Russian army in the First Chechen campaign), the Russian army just physically could not afford in Georgia.

Position 5.

The world community supported Georgia in the war with Russia.

Comment.

Yes, the world community, having received the “necessary” picture, really, at the first stage, stood on the side of the tie-cheater. However, later, when the situation became clearer, including thanks to the investigation of French journalists, the world suddenly realized that Saakashvili had slipped a monstrous lie to everyone, which simply didn’t make it easy. Even those who secretly pushed him towards the beginning of the aggression against Tskhinvali turned away from the Georgian president.

List substitutions of facts and intentional misrepresentation historical aspects of the August 2008 tragedy in South Ossetia, taking place in the Georgian propaganda film, can still be a long time. However, it is better to see with your own eyes the agitation of Georgian journalists in order to get the very vaccination against the lies that was mentioned at the beginning of the article.

And here is the very same film, referred to in the article:

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  1. Sarus
    +13
    23 March 2012 08: 28
    No words ...
    The most insulting thing is an attack on a nuclear power ...
    And from whom? From the country that can be destroyed in 2 weeks ....
    All the same, the Russian Federation has little experience in information wars ..
    Either change the Foreign Ministry or endure further ..
    1. sanyarusian
      +24
      23 March 2012 08: 32
      Well, actually in a couple of minutes and not weeks!
      1. Storm
        -16
        24 March 2012 13: 08
        And I also have a question. How could Georgians bombard Tskhinvali from hail, how did provocateurs shout about this at all Saites if Georgian units were in Tskhinvali? They destroyed themselves. Have you thought about this? That and that.
        1. GAMER0761GB
          +8
          24 March 2012 14: 47
          Georgians fired at Tskhinval from the city before they entered there.
          1. +3
            25 March 2012 22: 20
            don’t you see that he is stupid? Monkeys are all like that, especially banderlogs.
    2. +47
      23 March 2012 08: 54
      About 2 months ago, I talked with one Georgian propaganda seen on the Internet. in all seriousness he proved to me that it was Russia that all began. I asked him one simple question: Why did the Western press discover this war only a day after it started? He thought (not generally) and immediately realized what was happening, muttered something about the Georgian goats and went.
      The West is consciously trying to wean its citizens (and ours too) to think and has achieved certain successes in this. What for? This, I hope, is clear to everyone!
      1. Dimitrxnumx
        +47
        23 March 2012 09: 25
        It is not the Georgians who started the war, but AMERA. A bear acts only on their orders. A kind of remote marianette. Any sane creature will never attack a stronger one. The instinct of self-preservation will not. But Mishka has no instinct, for he executes commands when there is, when to sleep, when to chew a tie .... Therefore he stupidly trumped and began to attack. Amer as best they could, with all their might, prepared an army of bears for war, tried very hard. And they were taken to Afghanistan, and they conducted exercises together before the attack. The attack on Tskhinval was full of American instructors, maybe someone remembers when the area was cleaned from corpses, a lot of blacks were found by the Georgian troops. They asked, since when did the original Georgian blacks begin to live in Georgia? Do you remember how amers conducted propaganda in their media? All this war is the work of amers, so they decided to check how efficient we are. They do not risk anything, but there are Georgians on the map of the earth or not, they are deeply in ... th.
        1. +37
          23 March 2012 09: 42
          Quote: Dimitr77
          It is not the Georgians who started the war, but AMERA

          Here the speech is not about who started it, but about the extent to which dibilism needs to be brought to a person so that he believes that it’s not the states, and not even Georgia started this war, but Russia.
          1. Dimitrxnumx
            +20
            23 March 2012 10: 01
            Unfortunately, most American and European taxpayers believe what the TV says. And if you constantly drum something into them, they will believe in it to the marrow of their bones. This is the psychology. Most Americans do not even know that Georgia as a country exists, many thought it was Georgia (their state) and were afraid to go out, thinking that tanks were driving there. And the amers for more than a dozen years tuned everyone they could that the Russians are drinking guys with a balalaika on bears and are very aggressive, watch the movie "5 Days of War" amerovsky, this is a good example. America's managers understand this perfectly and with the help of the media distort information for the population as it suits them. I think everyone understands this. For the most part, Russia's "defeat" occurs precisely at the level of information warfare. Unfortunately, we were not ready for it, so we endure such constant attacks. Moreover, the amers for decades have erected the illusion of an enemy of humanity out of us. All this I mean is that it is high time for us to wage our own information war and for every such "attack by the media", to give a retaliatory informational blow in the face.
            1. recitatorus
              +22
              23 March 2012 11: 16
              In an information war, one must not give a retaliatory strike, but take one step, or rather several steps, ahead of the enemy! Then he indulges in excuses!
            2. Flight Recorder
              -16
              24 March 2012 00: 53
              I liked the film very much, especially the pilot with the Tu-22 "Our problems are in ourselves, we are forced people where they send, we will fly there"
              But the pilot on the Su-34 has a different opinion about this war - the Cryogenic Atomic Bomb will not leave traces of radiation, fast neutrons will simply decompose all biology into molecules. But the territory itself, resorts, the sea, mountains, vineyards, all this will remain and will not do any harm .
              1. DrekerexeN
                +6
                24 March 2012 18: 42
                Do you even understand what you said?
        2. +24
          23 March 2012 11: 27
          I fully support it. Remember, a couple of years ago Mishiko was making a speech from the podium, with a representative of the State Department standing behind. Suddenly, in the middle of his speech, Mishiko turned to him and asked, "Did I say that correctly?"
        3. Lermontov
          0
          29 March 2012 00: 05
          Mishka’s self-preservation instinct depends on the number of granules paid to him by the Americans
      2. Lech e-mine
        +17
        23 March 2012 17: 54





        On May 20, 1992, Georgian military forces shot down a civilian-36 convoy (Zarskaya Road). After that, the Georgian leadership should not be trusted in their commitment to peace.
        1. mengeleff
          +7
          24 March 2012 00: 04
          Quote: Leha e-mine
          On May 20, 1992, Georgian military forces shot down a civilian-36 convoy (Zarskaya Road). After that, the Georgian leadership should not be trusted in their commitment to peace.

          Animals!
          Photofacts do not lie!
          1. lexo8585
            +10
            24 March 2012 02: 38
            then Mr. Shivarnadze released all prisoners from prison and armed them to seize Abkhazia and South Ossetia. Still at the beginning of the 20th century, Georgians began to slaughter Ossetians. I am a native of North Ossetia.
        2. Storm
          -19
          24 March 2012 13: 06
          No dear, it is the Russians to blame for this. It says about it here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ym9NV8LlDs
      3. Flight Recorder
        -18
        24 March 2012 00: 02
        Ideological propaganda-Ukraine-Flesh of Orthodoxy-Bread. Georgia-Blood of Orthodoxy-Wine. Russia-Soul of Orthodoxy.
        Maybe the soul is sick, the blood is poisoned, and parasites gnaw at the body?
        1. Kremlin
          +8
          24 March 2012 00: 09
          Quote: Flight Recorder
          Maybe the soul is sick, the blood is poisoned, and parasites gnaw at the body?

          While you are on the Russian site in the cons with Soul, everything is in order!
          Not long you have to bite the body of Georgia and poison the blood of Bandera Ukraine! am
          1. Flight Recorder
            -14
            24 March 2012 00: 43
            And why do you have evil with a pitchfork on a smiley?
            Probably because I'm writing about Orthodoxy.
            1. Kremlin
              +7
              24 March 2012 11: 57
              Quote: Flight Recorder
              And why do you have evil with a pitchfork on a smiley?

              This is a characteristic of your being. laughing
    3. +18
      23 March 2012 09: 49
      Quote: Sarus
      The most offensive thing is an attack on a nuclear power ... And from whom? From the country that can be destroyed in 2 weeks ....

      On the 5th day of the war, the valiant Georgian army ceased to exist (scattered). At this point, our forces hardly had time to reach it with numerical parity.
    4. VAF
      VAF
      +13
      23 March 2012 11: 02
      Quote: Sarus
      There are no words ..


      There is no brother "SLOV" is full, but such that the moderators will forever "deprive" of the opportunity to speak out !!! am

      And if it doesn’t work out differently? request

      And his "position" in relation to the leadership with Mishiko must be radically changed, because. impunity only causes permissiveness, which is not permissible in relation to such a great and powerful country as Russia !!! angry
    5. glebech
      +7
      23 March 2012 11: 12
      what kind of nonsense "all the same, the Russian Federation has little experience in information wars ..." and you remember the USSR how you hid from the people what was going on in the world or the cold war with the United States, well, remember something else from history.
    6. vadimus
      +8
      23 March 2012 11: 33
      And what else can Mishik say, in breaks from a deep minnet to Mr. Obama? Expect such shameless nastiness ...
      1. Tatars
        +6
        23 March 2012 17: 09
        They fool the media with propaganda information, and the whole world believes. As it was with the USSR, which everyone considered the empire of evil, but in fact it was the other way around, with him there was peace and tranquility apart from Israel. Constantly wondering, how would we live if the USSR did not break up? Perhaps their computers, cell phones were
    7. +2
      23 March 2012 19: 13
      (The most offensive thing is an attack on a nuclear power ...
      And from whom? From the country that can be destroyed in 2 weeks) is not from the country that has been preserved thanks to this nuclear power.
    8. Storm
      -18
      24 March 2012 13: 04
      Yeah, Russian propaganda brainwashes everyone! Well, if you don’t believe Georgian journalists, can you believe Russian? After all, it was not the Goose who took it off, but the Russians. Here is the most truthful movie
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ym9NV8LlDs
      1. +1
        24 March 2012 17: 19
        Comrade with a loud nickname Storm, have you ever been to Tskhenvali at least once? .. After the first war in 1992. for example? .. Did you communicate with Tskhinvali immediately after August 2008? .. Have you ever talked at least once in your life with at least one resident of South Ossetia personally? .. I am more than sure that you, my dear friend, will answer all questions with one word - "no"...
        And shut up your link with this succumbed film to the place where Makar did not drive the calves, and where the place is to such schizoids as Mishiko Saakashvili and his battered admirers. Fershtein? ..
        1. lado-6060
          -2
          26 March 2012 22: 55
          Personally, I was in Batumi in Tskhinval more than once after 08.2 times. It got messed up. So go troll the youngest prisavih. Fershtein wink you can fuck minors
      2. CEO
        CEO
        +1
        24 March 2012 22: 30
        I believe my friend. Hero of Russia Konstantin Timerman commander of the battalion of peacekeepers. I fought with him in Chechnya. So that's all the lies are shown here. And you were there))) This is an act. )))) You can show me at least a hundred films .. But they were there ...
      3. Lermontov
        +1
        29 March 2012 00: 27
        Or maybe Comrade Storm is not at all comrade to us. Maybe the Cossack mishandled. Apparently you are from Ukraine. Look at what is happening in the Ukrainian troops. And for what pennies the Ukrainian peacekeepers are fighting, unlike the Americans. They gave the granules to the bear, slightly trained the fighters and decided to try to run into the normal children. After the collision I had to buy diapers. And so that it would not be audible to stink on the advice of an older brother, they organized an organization, later on the grannies of the older brother, for people like you desu. And you believe in her. And she is with a sweetheart.
    9. rolik
      +1
      24 March 2012 15: 24
      2 weeks, too much luxury for these pleasures.
      1. Sergh
        0
        26 March 2012 14: 59
        And it’s funny where the telephone conversations go, in the next conversation and further, the same voices, even there seems to be a kind of co-change of intonation, but the voice is the same. Cheap linden, I would have done better.
  2. Nickolay3145
    +10
    23 March 2012 08: 46
    The Georgians, however ... Their military choir drove away with pissed rags, after which it remains only to yell to the whole world about the horrors of occupation
    1. Horhe
      -22
      23 March 2012 11: 10
      a funny article, and in general, any of the users on this site seriously believe in the possibility of an attack by a small 4 million Georgia on a 143 million Russia? someone in all seriousness did not see the great work of Russia to reject the rebellious regions (distribution of passports, absolute support of local "power structures", sponsoring the local "power elite", etc.)? Well, at least think yourself adequately: what kind of "independent states" are they? this is not even funny! who sponsors the crowds of armed men in these "countries"? what is their "economy", at whose expense do they all live there? MUCH for the whole world, no more laughing and last: how did the two assaults of Grozny differ from the assault of Tskhinvali?
      1. raptor_fallout
        +13
        23 March 2012 11: 17
        Quote: horhe
        a funny article, and in general does one of the users on this site seriously believe in the possibility of an attack by a small 4 millionth Georgia on 143 millionth Russia?

        You tell this to widows and children! I feel on the day of the Airborne Forces that you sleep at home due to migraine? laughing I can’t help but minus you. Or maybe in Libya? And? We will throw ourselves at the resort! laughing
      2. +8
        23 March 2012 11: 21
        In your opinion, Georgia has not been an "independent state" for a long time, then it turns out that there was a test of strength of the USA and Russia.
        in general, one of the users on this site seriously believes in the possibility of an attack by the small 4-millionth of Russia on the 143-millionth of Russia
        Nobody spoke about the attack on RUSSIA; there was an attack on our peacekeepers.
        1. Storm
          -1
          24 March 2012 13: 27
          Nobody spoke about the attack on RUSSIA; there was an attack on our peacekeepers.
          It is not the same?
      3. +11
        23 March 2012 11: 30
        horhe, I understand that you are in Holland, but here go on the air not when it stuck, but when it was released)))
      4. -14
        23 March 2012 13: 21
        I believe that we were preparing for war and were going to deal with Georgia ......... and rightly so !!!!!! we live in an empire so that the rest are nearby afraid .... that's good. And how they coped with the task is bad ..... (ours fought very badly)
        1. -15
          23 March 2012 19: 10
          And Georgia wanted and was preparing to conquer. These territories are South Ossetia and Abkhazia (to which it has every right) And I believe that Kokoity is a bandit. But this is our bandit.
          Here the interests of Georgia and the interests of Russia collided. We can rightfully dictate the will of the strong.
          and the accusations that the Georgians are animals or Russian animals. This is all squirting and propagating.
          We are like them and they are no better and no worse!
          1. -16
            23 March 2012 21: 20
            I don’t understand one thing why this war was what we were protecting there ........... the Muslim diaspora in the person of the Ossetians. But they are to us ????????
            1. Sniper 1968
              +9
              23 March 2012 22: 45
              rumpeljschtizhen,
              Quote: rumpeljschtizhen
              I don’t understand why this war was what we were protecting there ........... the Muslim diaspora in the person of the Ossetians. But they are to us ????????

              It seemed to me that we were saving LIVING PEOPLE, regardless of their religion ... Rambs from Georgia came to KILL them. They killed our wounded peacekeepers ... And their teachers were Americans. By the way, these instructors gave the Georgians a pill, they have a substitute for the People's Commissars 100 grams ... When they began to be "released", the 58th Army approached. We had to give Georgia a hit. There is one more thing. The Amers put a test balloon on: they set this abnormal to watch our actions ... We looked. ..
              1. -15
                24 March 2012 02: 02
                It seemed to me that we saved LIVING PEOPLE, regardless of their religion.

                leave these pink snot where you live ...... ?? in what world what idealism is
                1. Sniper 1968
                  +8
                  24 March 2012 10: 23
                  rumpeljschtizhen,
                  Quote: rumpeljschtizhen
                  where do you live......??

                  I live in Russia.
                  Quote: rumpeljschtizhen
                  in what world what idealism is

                  So my parents raised me, somehow wrong ...
                  1. -13
                    24 March 2012 12: 02
                    Sniper 1968 just don’t need to make yourself a knight in shiny armor :-)))))))))) brought him up like that
                    1. Sniper 1968
                      +3
                      24 March 2012 23: 44
                      rumpeljschtizhen,
                      Quote: rumpeljschtizhen
                      do not make yourself a knight in brilliant armor :-)))))))))) brought him up like that

                      Shiny armor is fawn. Camouflage will do. It’s shame that you haven’t been brought up like that. Comrade Rumpelshtitshen.
              2. Storm
                -18
                24 March 2012 13: 28
                Yes, saved. From Russian rockets and bombs a large number of LIVING PEOPLE died!
            2. lexo8585
              +11
              24 March 2012 03: 46
              Ossetians are the ancestors of Alan, and the Alans adopted Orthodoxy 3 centuries earlier than Russia. Please read the book: The History of the Origin of Christianity in the North Caucasus (author: Archbishop of Stavrapolsky-Vladikavkaz Gedeon). Ossetians served the Tsar and were his personal guard. Tsar-Batyushka gave them for merits to the fatherland even the lands in Karachay-Cherkessia, by the way, Ossetians and heroes of the Soviet Union also have a lot: Pliev (a native of South Ossetia), Abaev, Akhsarov, Bzarov ........... there are a lot of them all I’ll write. In the photo Alansky Holy Assumption Monastery, which is located in North Ossetia on the border with South. So let's not incite religious strife and will not show your lack of education.
            3. +5
              24 March 2012 09: 24
              If we cannot help those who say we want to be with Russia. Then we are not a real state but plush and we will be kicked by anyone that until recently happened
        2. ork777
          -8
          23 March 2012 20: 39
          "we live in an empire" ... which empire is this? Crews were assembled throughout Russia. NATO has its own base near Ulyanovsk. The Russian army is worse than in 1941. In 12-15 years, the nuclear potential will be reduced by 50% and the United States will be able to repel a nuclear strike on its territory by 99%. The Russian army turns into a funny one. "EMPIRE". do not make me laugh.
          1. -8
            24 March 2012 02: 08
            if I noticed, I spoke with a share of sarcasm if we threaten the empire (which is clearly seen in the policies of our leadership) so damn let the army correspond. and the war with Georgia was shamefully carried out. that ours understood
          2. Storm
            -7
            24 March 2012 13: 31
            IN VO! laughing At least some truth!
            1. -2
              24 March 2012 15: 18
              Storm and you gloat early :-)
              although I understand your position and our cheers are patriots who are ready to sow a reasonable good eternal .. everywhere and threaten the whole world saying they’ll tear them all bare ass, with difficulty
        3. lexo8585
          +1
          24 March 2012 03: 04
          they prepared for war and knew that the Georgians would attack. Still in 2004, in Zaramag, they placed a point m from there and fired on Georgia. Tanks dug in the Mamison Gorge. They fought well, only the technology was 70 years old. There was no example, there was no reconnaissance either (they drove the hail, made a volley and drove off to understand where the Georgians would be salvo. Then they drove a hurricane (it beats further) and suppressed by fire, that Georgia’s planes tried to shoot down were not effective. Because they had flashing and drying in which the old friend or foe recognition system. The convoy wasn’t provided with water and food. The soldiers asked the poor people for socks from passing cars, but this was already fixed in a day. we must pay tribute to the local guys who already fought among themselves for an RPG fly and who will knock out a tank)))) the Cossack himself was a militia at that time. I saw everything with my own eyes. God rest the souls of the deceased of all wars and Georgians, and ours. because it is after all a fraternal people.
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      5. Passing
        +10
        23 March 2012 14: 30
        Quote: horhe
        do any of the users on this site seriously believe in the possibility of an attack by a small 4 millionth Georgia on 143 millionth Russia?

        Distort reality, little Georgia didn’t attack Russia, but the tiny South Ossetia, and attacked not by itself, but feeling strong US support. The calculation of their analytes was simple - like Georgia is immeasurably stronger than Ossetia, and the United States is so much cooler than Russia that Russia, from fear of the shadow of the Great Lord, will rub off and apologize in addition. But life has put everything in its place.
        Quote: horhe
        someone in all seriousness did not see the great work of Russia to reject the rebellious regions (distribution of passports, absolute support of local "power structures", sponsoring the local "power elite

        For example, Israel distributes its passports, and the US State Department generously finances the opposition, takes its best representatives to study in special institutions in the United States. So, in your opinion, it turns out that the occupation of Russia is being prepared by the West? belay
        To complete the picture, let's look at the situation without the participation of the ominous shadow of the United States. The situation in Transnistria. Russian passports are also handed out there. So what? Does anyone make this a tragedy? Moldova also distributes its passports, luring Transnistrians with all sorts of nishtyaks, such as membership in the European Union. There is a healthy competitive process. Transnistrians only benefit from this.
        And note that when the United States does not interfere with other people's affairs with its snout, it never occurs to anyone to decide the Grad.
        1. Horhe
          -1
          23 March 2012 14: 53
          "Russian passports are also distributed there. So what?" - if I understood you correctly, then if Germany begins to "secretly" distribute their passports to the residents of Kaliningrad-Königsberg and, accordingly, Japan to the residents of the Kuriles, then it will be okay ?! laughing and then, in a few years, by armed means "will they protect their compatriots" who are mocked by a corrupt regime? Well, let's remember these "Wishlist" and "Wishlist" ...
          1. raptor_fallout
            +7
            23 March 2012 15: 10
            Quote: horhe
            "Russian passports are also distributed there. So what?" - if I understood you correctly, then if Germany begins to "secretly" distribute their passports to residents of Kaliningrad-Königsberg

            Well, I’ll only say about the Russians who left for Germany, in the Yeltsin era, from Kazakhstan (the word Russians understand it as belonging, not the color of a passport!), So, at least 1.5 million people left according to various estimates! Now they are citizens of Germany! And how much Russia has lost for these troubled years? 10 times more! We are able to work, adequate and true to our history!
          2. Passing
            +4
            23 March 2012 16: 21
            Kaliningrad and the Kuril Islands have nothing to do with South Ossetia. In the first case, the situation in the field of vague historical distances, in the second, specific unsolvable interethnic contradictions. These are two big differences.
            So the bribery and seduction of the indigenous Russians in Kaliningrad and the Kuril Islands will be seen as revenge and direct aggression against the entire Russian Federation. angry
      6. beard999
        +7
        23 March 2012 15: 43
        Quote: horhe
        How did the two assaults of Grozny differ from the assault of Tskhinvali?

        Well, I would say this - in contrast to the stubborn resistance of Chechen fighters in Grozny, the Georgian army, trained by the Americans and Israelis, 100 hours after the start of the operation of the Russian Armed Forces, unanimously made legs. And not only from Tskhinval, but even from the Georgian Gori ...
  3. semenar
    +14
    23 March 2012 08: 48
    the world suddenly realized that Saakashvili slipped everyone a monstrous lie, which just makes him uneasy. Even those who secretly pushed him to the start of aggression against Tskhinvali turned their backs on the Georgian president.
    The world knew everything without palm off. At first, the media were silent, and when Russia intervened, they started talking about aggression. Everyone knew and understood.
  4. +15
    23 March 2012 08: 57
    Oh, let them brainwash their population further. What is it for us? Ossetians are all well aware of who attacked them, we don’t need to, the EU will anyway yell at us, at least make such films, at least do not. Russia has only two allies, its army and navy.
    1. zhidikhanov
      +8
      23 March 2012 09: 28
      I fully agree on the two allied brothers.
  5. marauder
    +8
    23 March 2012 09: 00
    According to the film, the conclusion is made that the Russian army had prepared for the war in advance, and therefore it is to blame for it. Delusions of a sick imagination. Well, what has prepared, intelligence works. If information is received that the Georgians are preparing for an attack, of course there will be an adequate response from Russia. Moreover, 30 thousand civilians from South Ossetia were evacuated in advance. If the Georgians are so smart, why did they start the war first, if they saw that preparations were underway on the other side. Hoping for NATO?
    NATO threw Georgians. And what they wanted, they always do that.
  6. TROYAN
    +3
    23 March 2012 09: 01
    Saakashvili allows himself too much! Lies, rash statements, unfounded facts against Russia
  7. Artur09-75
    +8
    23 March 2012 09: 02
    Thanks again to Alexey for the article. Well, Georgia, while this demoniac is in power, will continue to pursue an anti-Russian policy. It is high time to talk with them from a position of strength so that all the "democrats" of the world would not blather there. I have nothing against ordinary Georgians, but if they treat Russia that way, then let them go to work for the Yankees, if they accept them. angry
  8. +9
    23 March 2012 09: 04
    The Minister of Propaganda of the Third Reich would have resigned, having familiarized himself with the "works" of Georgian documentary filmmakers.
    Hollywood ears and gloomy shadows of the "cloak and dagger knights" still loom behind the backs of the genatsvale ...
    1. +1
      24 March 2012 21: 27
      Quote: Nord
      The Minister of Propaganda of the Third Reich would have resigned after reading the "works" of the Georgian documentary filmmakers. Hollywood ears and gloomy shadows of the "cloak and dagger knights" still loom behind the backs of the genatsvale ...
      "Our troops in an organized and orderly manner withdrew to the previously prepared positions, and the enemy in panic and confusion took the positions we had left."
  9. +4
    23 March 2012 09: 06
    The elephant and the Pug (Krylov the seer) - clowns and all ... it was necessary to take Tbilisi - all the same, they passed it without a fight, b, and now they howl, it's like Adolf would put pressure on pity .. shame, - and he washed off with blood, I still feel
  10. +12
    23 March 2012 09: 15
    For one thing, I noticed that such cheap films also play into our hands, I just looked at the movie with our army puffed up, it turns out that it doesn’t fall apart, and the superfood is strong, we have a lot of tanks, helicopters. Especially proud of the GRU special forces - in the film, at every opportunity when some atrocities are shown, they say that our special forces were there smile Let them frighten themselves, fear has big eyes wink
    It was still funny when the Georgians talked on the phone, they also say that the Russians are stupid laughing
    -Alyo
    -ABOUT
    -Poplar?
    -OU
    - 350 Naru
    -About the bombardst
    laughing laughing but the translation into Russian wild turns out to be and oh, they are translated as several Russian words laughing it means with them, and yes, and clearly and heard, in short, the universal word laughing
    Let your people be scared, next time, if he is of course, they’ll be more quick to escape laughing It’s necessary to have a couple of staff bears and give them to the soldiers, so that they ride with them in armored personnel carriers in order to fully comply with the image laughing Imagine what kind of panic they start, they will yell-Russian !!! Russians !! ride with the bears !!!! Bears play harmonica and drink moonshine !!!! Help!!!! laughing
    1. lexo8585
      0
      24 March 2012 04: 15
      this is not Georgian, but a fake Ossetian conversation.
  11. zhidikhanov
    +5
    23 March 2012 09: 30
    What good can you expect from a person with an inflamed brain?
  12. +3
    23 March 2012 09: 33
    Already "Serchi" are being dragged in, soon the "Topol" with nuclear warheads will be wassat
    1. 0
      April 13 2012 11: 22
      Georgians think so.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpISl-h6pdA
  13. raptor_fallout
    +8
    23 March 2012 09: 57
    I didn’t want to put a plus for a long time, but the author of this article didn’t make this film? What does it have to do with it? America is resting !! We need to shoot Georgian directors in Hollywood movies laughing , and then tired of watching films about caviar, samovars, nesting dolls and vodka. Let them make a film about the "terrible" Russian army, American kids will be scared laughing and us free agitation))!
    1. Sniper 1968
      +2
      23 March 2012 22: 29
      raptor_fallout,
      Quote: raptor_fallout
      .Let them make a film about the "terrible" Russian army, American children will be scared and we will get free agitation))!

      Yes, in the title role, Russian officer Ivanov (for example) -Nikolay Valuev. Can you imagine how THEIR children will turn around? Yes lol laughing
  14. Sniper 1968
    +5
    23 March 2012 10: 05
    This ....... su Galstukozhuishvili, when he studied at all sorts of Yells and Stanford-Schmamfords, instead of sniffing cheap Colombian cocaine, should have read the classics. "Timid Georgians were running ..."
  15. cattle
    +1
    23 March 2012 10: 17
    http://twower.livejournal.com/tag/%D0%93%D1%80%D1%83%D0%B7%D0%B8%D1%8F somewhere he has a link to the report of our gunsmith in Georgia
  16. +3
    23 March 2012 11: 29
    The author, of course, thanks for the article! What can not be said about the film. Well, the true successors of the "Georgia-Film" wassat
    They had such a movie garage. The older generation remembers. When I showed their films, I switched the channel. They outdid their fathers, there is a desire to break the phone against the wall. What is especially unpleasant is hearing loss in the film, it is pure Russian, knowing how difficult it is for the Georgians to speak Russian (without accent).
    Which once again confirms the proverb that the family has its black sheep (our Russian family) We also have traitors among journalists. Prostitutes, what to take from them! The profession is this! am
    I want to say sarusu-we will always lose on the information front
    if we’re not going to promote our language now, to popularize it in every way. To defend it in the Baltic republics and the Transcaucasian. This is a terrible weapon, with a skillful approach!
    Thank you. Regards!
    1. Passing
      +6
      23 March 2012 14: 43
      sergo0000, this one, hands off "Georgia-film"!wink
      Personally, I really like his films, lyrical and ironic. Where did it all go ... sad
      1. +4
        23 March 2012 15: 54
        Passing,
        I had a good time! And they didn’t have enough good films either. Here are the directors, yes! Actors, singers, musicians, this cannot be taken from the Georgian people. And writers, poets, where did everything really go?
        The main actor now is Saakashvilli!
      2. -3
        24 March 2012 15: 20
        after all, we now have Gruziny’s enemies. who we need to be afraid of and hate, and this nonsense surprises anyone !!!!!!!!!!!
  17. +16
    23 March 2012 11: 34
    Here is the main Georgian "cinema" of that time. And no extra words are needed.
    1. Kamaz
      +5
      23 March 2012 14: 35
      GEORGIAN GOVERNMENT-FUN GOVERNMENT laughing
  18. vozn_ser
    +13
    23 March 2012 11: 44
    And here is the chapel on the road ...
    Here from old years he will rest in God
    Some kind of prince now holy
    Killed with a vengeful hand.
    Since then on the feast of il to the battle,
    Wherever the traveler is in a hurry,
    Always earnest prayer
    He brought at the chapel;
    And that prayer saved
    From the Muslim dagger.
    But despised daring groom
    The custom of their great-grandfathers.
    His treacherous dream
    Sly Demon outraged:
    He is in thoughts, under the darkness of the night,
    The bride's mouth kissed.
    Suddenly two men flashed ahead.
    And more - a shot! - what?..
    Standing up on ringing stirrups,
    Nadvuv on his brows pops,
    The brave prince did not say a word;
    The Turkish trunk flashed in his hand,
    Solder click and, like an eagle,
    He rushed ... and shot again!
    And the wild cry and moan deaf
    Sped into the depths of the valley -
    The battle did not last long:
    Timid Georgians fled!
    laughing
    Mikhail Yurjevich Lermontov
  19. +10
    23 March 2012 12: 30
    HOW WE HAVE THE BEST LITTLE POLITICIANS WITH FOAM AT THE MOUTH STARTED A SISK TO SUPPORT THE ACTIONS DRY, UNTIL THEY HAVE SARKOZED. IT IS EVERYONE DIFFICULT, IT WAS LITTLE AFTER!
  20. Salavat
    +4
    23 March 2012 13: 20
    Quote: vozn_ser
    And the wild cry and moan deaf
    Sped into the depths of the valley -
    The battle did not last long:
    Timid Georgians fled!
    laughing
    Mikhail Yurjevich Lermontov


    yes, nothing is new under the moon
    1. +4
      23 March 2012 13: 55
      Gruzin made a mistake from the Russian SU-25

      My webpage
      1. Salavat
        0
        23 March 2012 20: 56
        and from the column of tanks
  21. Salavat
    +7
    23 March 2012 13: 42
    found a Georgian article:
    Georgian combat readiness, from eyewitness accounts
    You often hear Russian propaganda, which is openly trying to ridicule the Georgian army and its ability to conduct hostilities. However, this is done in order to hide the truth about how the 58th army was defeated by Georgian special forces. Here is an excerpt from the story of the eyewitnesses themselves ...
    "The headquarters column of the commander of the Russian forces in South Ossetia was completely destroyed." Georgian special forces were trained by American and Israeli instructors. And, obviously, they prepared it - "at the level of the best world standards." lol

    But the most interesting are the comments:
    In Europe, they heard about the Georgians. Even here in Portugal they talk about them something like this: But George, how do we know these are those whom the Russians dressed in two days for cooks. http://www.lazare.ru/blogi/gruzinskaja-boesposobnost-iz-rasskazov-ochevidtsev.ht
    ml
  22. serge
    +4
    23 March 2012 14: 17
    Typical Anglo-Saxon-Jewish propaganda. They say that black is white, and they will not blink an eye. Audacity second happiness.
  23. loc.bejenari
    -20
    23 March 2012 14: 59
    vile Georgians - how can you so brazenly lie about the bombing of Gori - obviously - they bombed themselves in their city and blamed the noble Russian troops for this - funny
    but this is the essence of all comments on the article
    false Georgian propaganda and honest (a-parteigenoss Goebbels) Russian television
    By the way, where did the 1400 killed civilians of Tskhinval go about whom Russian TV was blowing
    1. ork777
      +4
      23 March 2012 20: 53
      And you go to the cemeteries count
      1. +3
        24 March 2012 00: 27
        Quote: ork777
        And you go to the cemeteries count

        And in the courtyards of houses. They buried mainly there.
    2. -6
      24 March 2012 02: 26
      also do not smack nonsense
    3. +1
      24 March 2012 09: 27
      just one question why they didn’t bomb Tbilisi.
  24. Trudy
    +10
    23 March 2012 15: 01
    I remember that in the forums in 2008, all Georgians with foam at the mouth proved their innocence. They took some photograph where an allegedly Russian shell got into an apartment (by the way, he was lying there on the bed there: he was probably tired of the flight, he decided to rest). Then they began to describe that Russian soldiers in Gori stole the toilets (can you imagine such a picture? How did they take these toilets? On tanks?).
    The forum fell from laughter. Here is such a Georgian creative - it was brainless to lie. It seems that they already have a diagnosis. And quite possibly - it is not treatable.
  25. vostok-47
    +10
    23 March 2012 15: 36
    I looked at five minutes of this documentary, it seemed that they put pressure on pity (Little-Little Georgia was defending itself from the country of the aggressor of Russia). No facts, only retelling (I was told by one person who found a website on the Internet where some person wrote that someone had told him that, and so on).
    1. Trudy
      +5
      23 March 2012 16: 08
      lol
      And this is a tit,
      which often steals wheat,
      which is stored in a dark closet
      in home,
      which Jack built.
  26. 0
    23 March 2012 16: 13
    Sorry, a little rest. smile http://podkontrol.ru/ кому не сложно подпишите пожалуйста петицию о принятии закона "О контроле над иностранным финансированием некоммерческих организаций"
  27. +8
    23 March 2012 16: 15
    yes, the information war was then strong. And the Americans, with their minions, have achieved tremendous success in this. I remember when this war started, I even believed at first that the Russians were the first to attack .... it’s good that it quickly dawned that this was not so. But many still do not understand this.
  28. +3
    23 March 2012 16: 48
    In vain our guys were stopped. Before Tiflis, there was nothing left. Now, these devils would not be bawling at all. Often it is necessary to lay down horseradish, big and thick, on world opinion.
    1. Kremlin
      +3
      23 March 2012 16: 52
      Quote: Tambov Wolf
      Often on world opinion it is necessary to lay down horseradish, big and thick.

      we will not put this is not our method, let the American and Israeli criminal governments do this for the first time, but we are Russian law-abiding and respect International law!
  29. coast
    +3
    23 March 2012 16: 54
    comedy looked neighing laughing and what kind of fat reporter he wanted to spit in his face. when he said his eyes ran right away it’s obvious that
  30. w702c
    +2
    23 March 2012 17: 21
    this "movie" is only for the West,
    but what they say about it in Russia they do not care. here is an American democracy
  31. WAN
    +17
    23 March 2012 17: 57
    The old bear is dead. The bear cub remaining in the forest was still small, and therefore many animals felt free. The boar, and the Sprats splashing in the river in full voice washed the deceased's bones, not forgetting the heir.

    A striped Tiger squinted thoughtfully from a nearby forest - unlike the others, he remembered well the old mess with a pack of wolves, in which he was lucky to be with a bear on one side and see the clubfoot in business. And he understood that it’s not just that the current Wolf is trying not to spoil relations with the bear. On the other hand, the little bear is still small, and his forest is large, oh, great.

    Therefore, just in case, he friendlyly promised Kozl, Khryak and Spratam his protection, in exchange for the persecution of a teddy bear - Nehai sits in a den and does not protrude. Those, understanding this in their own way, became insolent at the end and raised such a screech in the forest about the brothers crushed and eaten by the bear and the spoiled raspberries that sometimes even the tiger laid ears.

    Plus, the not very successful fuss of the teddy bear with the mountain Jackal, in which the teddy bear defeated barely, and then on points, added to the screamers of courage. And if the Boar, due to natural laziness, screeched only for company, and the Sprats gurgled among themselves, and they were not particularly audible from under the water, then, due to the hot temperament, he excitedly shook the horns and publicly threatened the bear to get gored.

    Everything was not clear with the young teddy bear ... While he was sitting in his den, he was overcome by contradictions: on the one hand, strict upbringing and the example of the old bear of his father, on the other hand, life in the forest after the death of the old bear changed ... All the creatures spoke as if about the "water truce", but stealthily, tousled by the Tiger from the neighboring forest, they were doing petty nasty things to the little bear.

    It was still too early to compete with the young bear in terms of fangs and claws in size with the Tiger, and all along the same “water truce” it was increasingly shamed for bloodthirstiness and kind of injustice of the father’s bear, hinting that it wasn’t claws to maintain this truce. And the Tiger, meanwhile, was grinning from the neighboring forest ...

    The thunder struck unexpectedly - if earlier it simply wandered around the den and militantly bleated, to which the teddy bear only grumbled with displeasure, now he decided to bring to order the Chipmunk, who lived near the den, who had long been an eyesore to him. Chipmunk seems to be friends with a teddy bear from old memory, but it hasn’t been seen for a long time, especially since the Tiger was winking approvingly from a nearby forest ...

    But this time it didn’t go according to plan - all of a sudden a paw came out of the den and moved Kozla so that he flew through the whole forest, bleating loudly. Then a teddy bear crawled out of the den, during which time he was waving almost with his dad, and went to look for where he had flown. And, judging by the expression of the bear's face, it’s not at all for apologizing.

    Everyone immediately abruptly fell ill: rushed through the forest with horns twisted into a pigtail and demanded that the forest community save him from an aggressive bear. The awakened Boar screeched with concern, not so much out of solidarity as from the bad feeling that he could be the next in line. Sprats were swept over, because of which the river was practically boiling - the old bear loved to go fishing, and if the young one went to dad ...

    The tiger, which was mainly addressed to goat complaints, sat in philosophical thought: on the one hand - albeit, but an ally, on the other - the bear's claws are long and his teeth are hooded, albeit less than his dad's. Won the Wolf, after the bear’s claws, he completely swam into the glades of others, although it seemed to be a win, and at first he managed to drive the bear carefully.

    The Wolf himself, although he did not show his sight, was still grinning to himself. He, unlike the others, kept relations with the bear, although not friendly, but even, did not climb into someone else's garden, and did not risk getting between his ears.

    I have not ventured to rake the Rooster - due to the fact that I simply could not bite a lot because of the size. Therefore, now he was scampering over the agitated forest and trying to reconcile everyone. True, it didn’t work out - he was too scared, and the bear was so sick of it that he drove the Goat, not being distracted by the rooster cries from somewhere above.

    A Khryak ran after them at a respectful distance and squealed excitedly - they had long hinted that the young bear might ask for that oak grove on the shore that the old one had given him to use simply because he did not eat acorns. But in the same grove there was a favorite bear fishing spot from which the Bear Boar survived purely out of harm. Now they could recall the old sins and take away the grove altogether. And, judging by the situation with the Goat, there was little hope for the Tiger.

    Sprats simply panicked: on the one hand, they were the majority in the river, on the other hand, the river divided the two forests, and in which case the whole movement went over their heads, regardless of their desire. Moreover, even the most insane Sprats understood that for any coastal resident they are just a light snack, and who will listen to the opinion of the snack.

    Meanwhile, the Raccoon, who also spoiled a lot of blood, out of solidarity with the Chipmunk, and, frankly speaking, taking advantage of this convenient moment, famously erased goat marks on the path leading to his den. On the one hand, this was justified by the bestial behavior of the Goat, on the other - even the hedgehog understood that the Goat is now very much not up to him. Moreover, he was also friends with the young bear, and his behavior tacitly approved that pretty much added the Raccoon courage: the Tiger is far away, and the Bear is close at hand, and in which case, he just needs to extend his paw, right now.

    In the bushes, the Hare was quietly rejoicing - despite the dissatisfied screeching of other animals and the Tiger’s offer to put the bear on the threshold, he continued to be neutral, and, as the example of the Goat showed, not in vain. Now he could calmly chew grass - the prospect of a showdown with an enraged bear, unlike any Kozlov and Khryakov, did not shine for him. And that was damn fine.
    1. Passing
      +2
      23 March 2012 18: 21
      Offset! And who is the author?
      1. +2
        23 March 2012 18: 33
        Finally class! good
      2. WAN
        +1
        26 March 2012 11: 16
        Alas, I don’t know who the author is ....
    2. sgv
      +4
      23 March 2012 19: 41
      That's exactly the sprats should understand that there are at most half of them in the river! And other residents of the river such as catfish, salmon, stellate sturgeon and other crucians. They don’t really want to be friends with a tiger against a bear! He eats meat and fish tiger all year round, and the teddy bear switches to berries and roots from time to time! So with the bear, then we crucian carp calmer!
    3. -3
      23 March 2012 21: 20
      here is a typical example of propaganda ........ it works :-)
  32. w702c
    +2
    23 March 2012 19: 12
    I have not yet understood who the hare and raccoon are
    1. Salavat
      +2
      23 March 2012 20: 11
      and who is the cock?
    2. WAN
      +2
      26 March 2012 11: 14
      Hare - Belarus
      Raccoon - Abkhazia
      Rooster (the right word of the gentlemen, et is the national symbol of France))))
  33. gercog_75
    +2
    23 March 2012 19: 17
    next time I’ll wait until Tbilisi am who the hell will stop
    1. Trudy
      -1
      25 March 2012 18: 54
      A flag in your hands, a drum around your neck (in a good way), comrade! Yes
  34. +2
    23 March 2012 19: 27
    WAN,
    good tale! wink
  35. -2
    23 March 2012 19: 57
    And enough to admire this war, they say Georgians fled ...... ours ... achieved victory. But the reform started that this war showed .. a complete pi .... w combat capabilities of our army
  36. -16
    23 March 2012 21: 22
    I understand that many people here think that it was an unconditional victory over the "Georgian Aressor" ?????? and an example for military operations ???????? .. it will go down in history how to fight?
    I, as a Russian, feel insulted and hurt for such leadership of our armed forces
    1. -7
      24 March 2012 01: 37
      at least three clearly consider this an indicator of a brilliant victory ......... I hope this is not the current military, otherwise everything is bad.
  37. Salavat
    +3
    23 March 2012 21: 35
    maybe the victory was not unconditional, and our actions are not the most ideal, but the result is achieved, peace enforcement took place. in the meantime, it remains to hope that the command has learned the necessary lesson from all this mess.
  38. +3
    23 March 2012 22: 05
    As for the quality of military operations, Georgians, of course, are still warriors, but still the amers did there .. And in war, as in war ... of course it would be better if there would be no loss ... it only happens in Hollywood ... As for the media ... only the finished can expect objective comments from enemy magazines ... and take offense at these comments, do not respect yourself ..
    1. +4
      23 March 2012 22: 36
      Regarding the quality of military operations, Georgians, of course, are still warriors,

      no need to generalize, during the Great Patriotic War they fought on a par with everyone else ... It is better to write "current or modern Georgians", although I think there are worthy people among them ... IMHO
  39. +2
    23 March 2012 22: 12
    Withstood 26 minutes of viewing ... complete nonsense
  40. Lustrator
    +4
    23 March 2012 22: 36
    Twisting facts and puns.
    It is a pity for Georgians and others subjected to Jesuit methods of American-Saxon marauders ... If Russia wanted to bring the matter about which this propaganda video to the end, Mishiko would have hung somewhere in the park on a branch with the head down. But I hope that there will be sighted people among Georgians and they will hang this dog themselves. Until it's not too late. And then migrate to the ownership of Turkey or the Saudis.

    P.S. And about the journalists: who feeds, he dances them. IMHO. Although there are decent, who are sometimes killed.
  41. Stasi.
    +3
    24 March 2012 00: 45
    The case of Dr. Goebbels is apparently very tenacious - say a lie a hundred times, a hundred and first time it will become true. Only now the Georgians were bad students. In the information war, we unfortunately are much inferior to the West, which has a powerful Agitprop which the Soviet Union never dreamed of. It is necessary to create your own Agitprop, your own information weapon, and today too much importance is given to conventional weapons and equipment. Why didn’t our troops enter Tbilisi and put Saakashvili in shackles? Because the Americans made a deal with our government - in exchange for Saakashvili, to bring Yushchenko Yanukovych in the elections in Ukraine. Abkhazia and South Ossetia should be accepted into Russia; this will be correct and logical after recognition of their independence. By the way, Stalin annexed South Ossetia to Georgia, dividing the unified republic of Ossetia into North and South.
  42. +6
    24 March 2012 01: 19
    Oh Lord, save Georgia! I haven’t seen such nonsense for a long time. On the topic, my brother served there in Tskhinvali in 90 years and was a direct participant in many events (special forces of the USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs). The Georgians were still trying to join Ossetia, but they also got rid of from the Ossetians. and they faded. Well, as warriors, I’ve seen enough Georgians, WORSE IS NO SOLDIER, SIMPLY NO !!!!! Chorus yes, not bad ...
  43. -15
    24 March 2012 01: 33
    here is one of you who believes that South Ossetia is our brotherly people for which it is worth fitting in ???????? or Abkhaz friends ....... this is a bunch of Muslims. we didn’t kill in the 18th-10th century then we fought against them ... why the hell are we going to do this ?? to show the power of Russian weapons so it was necessary to show and not win the war uncertainly.
    no one argues that all the same we would defeat Georgia ... but it’s ridiculous if we had a general mobilization for victory
    1. +7
      24 March 2012 02: 20
      if you do not know about Abkhazians and Ossetians Christians
      1. 0
        24 March 2012 03: 00
        officially the majority
      2. Flight Recorder
        0
        30 March 2012 11: 00
        And the Georgians too.
    2. -11
      24 March 2012 02: 35
      I don’t consider Georgians to be serious warriors what’s the trouble and we barely figured it out
      1. -11
        24 March 2012 03: 12

        if you do not know about Abkhazians and Ossetians Christians

        perhaps the majority and Christians agree I was wrong. but this does not change my position
        1. lexo8585
          +4
          24 March 2012 04: 24
          about why fit in, watch a movie about Beslan, why it happened, read books ..... and don’t be dumb fellow
  44. lado-6060
    -14
    24 March 2012 11: 02
    before commenting, read the Tagliavini report. Ossetians are Orthodox laughing -show the Orthodox Church built by Ossetians
    1. lexo8585
      +3
      24 March 2012 16: 55
      friendly, he is in the photo that I later threw wink , the beginning of the construction of the monastery in 2002 and it is still under construction. By the way, I often go there smile Already in the Koban gorge, the construction of the Alan court began. In 2004, the Epiphany Alan Monastery was built. In the photograph, St. George’s Cathedral in Vladikavkaz. Early 1996-2003, the old ones that were destroyed during the Soviet era are still being restored. How many are there : There are a lot of Christians in Ossetia, do not give any false reports. It will be interesting to find Ossetian temples on the Internet and read them. wink
      1. lado-6060
        -6
        24 March 2012 17: 17
        Ossetians are the ancestors of Alan, and the Alans adopted Orthodoxy 3 centuries earlier than Russia / they are Russian right-wing churches. For so many centuries they did not build their own smile
        1. +1
          24 March 2012 19: 28
          Ossetians (Irons, Digors and Kudars) are descendants of the Alans, but not the other way around ...
          Alas and ah, one more "minus" ...
          1. lado-6060
            -3
            24 March 2012 21: 56
            Ossetians (Irons, Digors and Kudars) are descendants of the Alans, but not vice versa ... the truth /. Ossetians are the ancestors of Alan, and the Alans accepted Orthodoxy 3 centuries earlier than Russia / quote lekso8585
            1. lexo8585
              -2
              25 March 2012 03: 35
              friend, Irons, Digors and Khudars are one people, if you do not understand laughing which is called Ossetians. Digorians came from Digor gorge, Kudars from Kudarsky, and Irons from Fiagdonsky, Kobansky, Tseysky ....... when the Tatar-Mongols attacked the Alans went to the mountains, they held the defense there. The Tatar-Mongol yoke reached the village of Dzivgis in the Fiagdon gorge. there is still a fortress in the mountain. in the fortress a tunnel was dug through the mountain to the Alagir gorge, through it they transported the wounded to the Kudarsky gorge. after which they began to call them Kudars. ALL Proudly call themselves IRONIANS !!!! ONE LANGUAGE, T Lko little different SPEAKING SOME LETTERS wink I live in North Ossetia-Alania. photo of a fortress in Dzivgis. by the way, I have a wife Digorka winkI’m saying that it’s better to read than to smack nonsense.
        2. lexo8585
          +1
          25 March 2012 03: 45
          the temple has not yet been destroyed, it is located in Karachay-Cherkessia in the village of Zelenchuk (before the Tatar-Mongolian attack, this territory belonged to Alanya. The temple is of the 9th century. Read http://www.alanica.ru/articles/57-average-zelenchuk- temple. in Ossetia itself there are a lot of such wink
          1. lado-6060
            -2
            25 March 2012 07: 41
            read the link thank you. Ossetians Alan ancestors. you wrote smile no one argues that there are right temples in the North Caucasus. I ask you to show the temples built by the Ossetians .. The Alans accepted Orthodoxy 3 centuries earlier than Russia. Everywhere, whether Rome, Georgia or Russia, everyone accepted religion "from above." When did the baptism of Ossetia take place?
    2. +1
      24 March 2012 21: 50
      The church located at the confluence of the Ardon and Zaka rivers (in the immediate vicinity of the Tsmi settlement) was seen with its own eyes. A very old building ... By the way, this is also the TransCAM area ... wink
  45. lado-6060
    -12
    24 March 2012 11: 43
    The 135th motorized rifle regiment entered the territory of South Ossetia before the start of the Georgian attack on Tskhinvali "- We were at the exercises, - Captain Sidristy begins the story. - This is relatively close to the capital of South Ossetia. Nizhniy Zaramakh is a nature reserve of North Ossetia. That's where after the planned exercises and camped, but on August 7, a command came to advance to Tskhinvali. They raised us on alarm - and on the march. We arrived, settled down, and already on August 8, it blazed with such force that many were even confused. No, everyone understood that the Georgians Something is being prepared, but it was difficult even to imagine what we saw. Immediately after midnight, a massive shelling of the city and the positions of the peacekeepers began. They fired from all types of weapons, including multiple launch rocket systems. "

    Comments
    1. The regiment, which has a place of permanent deployment, the village of Prokhladny near Nalchik, after the exercises (August 2) was placed in Nizhny Zaramag.
    2. Lower Zaramag is located a few kilometers from the northern portal of the Roki tunnel, in this village there is a checkpoint and customs.
    On August 3.7, the regiment received a command to advance to Tskhinvali, was raised by alarm and managed to arrive at the prescribed line of advance before the end of the day.
    4. After midnight from the location of the regiment, one could observe the flashes of artillery shelling of Tskhinvali.
    5. The location of the new location of the regiment is not indicated, but it is obvious that the regiment passed through the Roki tunnel, because:
    - it makes no sense to raise the regiment on alarm to push it two kilometers to the entrance to the Roki tunnel, with this construction the tail of the column will still be in Nizhny Zaramag.
    - being north of the Main Caucasian Range it is impossible to observe the flashes of shelling in Tskhinvali.
    6. Based on the words "arrived, settled", it can be concluded that the convoy has not yet spent the night along the road, but unloaded in a place where it was possible to provide the personnel with food and lodging.
    7. Between the Roki tunnel and Tskhinvali there is only one such place - Java.

    Conclusion: The 135th motorized rifle regiment entered the territory of South Ossetia before the start of the Georgian attack on Tskhinvali.
    1. loc.bejenari
      -6
      24 March 2012 16: 07
      you think this is someone on this forum who’s interested - here with foam at the mouth they can call white black and prove that boots and footcloths are better than boots and the valiant Russian army, as in June 1941, was not ready for the aggressor’s attack, but then took Berlin (sorry - Gori - the truth how the homeland of the mustachioed leader relates to South Ossetia - and what and who they liberated there is a mystery)
      1. lexo8585
        +1
        25 March 2012 03: 53
        Gori was not liberated, there were installations of the city. Gori is located 20 km from Tskhinvali on the mountain, it was a favorable position for shelling.
    2. +3
      24 March 2012 19: 21
      Minor clarifications:
      1. The 135th MSBR is deployed in Prokhladny, and not the 135th regiment, for that matter.
      2. "Nizhny Zaramag" is the name of the checkpoint. And the village where it is located is called Buron.
      3. Housing a motorized rifle regiment (not like a brigade!) In Buron is a very difficult thing, because it is a very small settlement literally consisting of two streets.
      4. Cool - not a village, but a city (regional center). It is located on the territory of the KBR, but not at all "near Nalchik".
      5. Buron, which you called "Lower Zaromag" is located from the northern portal at a distance of at least 25 keme. After the Devil's Bridge (which is 15 keme to the portal), there is not a single settlement before the tunnel. The last one is pos. Nar (about 18 keme to the portal)
      6. Flashes are very clearly visible in the night sky, which is not "blown out" by the background of artificial lighting.

      Conclusion: check the information, because a person who not only lives in the Caucasus, but also the topography of TransCAM could come out with his feet almost up and down, and that he knows this firsthand.
      Respectfully, an ex-employee of the Rocky paramilitary avalanche avalanche unit Yes

      And you "minus" for gullibility, gullibility and unwillingness to verify information. Do not blame me, sir ...
      1. lado-6060
        -4
        24 March 2012 22: 13
        The peacekeeping contingent (the one that is mandated) is indeed part of the 135th regiment of the 58th Army of the North Caucasian Military District, but numerous reports say that on August 7 an entire regiment entered the territory of South Ossetia (i.e., about 2000 people), which , of course, contrary to the mandate of the peacekeepers and all previously signed agreements.

        Even if it was not the WHOLE Regiment, but only one extra company, then this can still be regarded as a military invasion.
        1. +1
          25 March 2012 21: 36
          I will repeat myself again - at the time of the events, the 135th motorized rifle brigade was stationed in the town of Prokhladny (KBR), and not some kind of so-called. "135th regiment" ... This alone makes you strongly doubt the authenticity of the information you provided, that is. these very "numerous messages" ...
          Such mistakes are made when they do something completely without delving into the essence of the matter, according to the principle of "heard the ringing", and are designed for the average layman who does not think about the truth of what was said or simply does not want to do it ... But these flaws immediately become visible if you dig deeper and more solidly ... wink

          "Can be viewed as a military invasion" ... But how should the actions of the Georgian army be viewed? .. As outright genocide? .. As the consequences of a rash step on the head of the president of Georgia and his advisers? ..

          Let me remind you of an old saying: "It's too late to drink Borjomi, if the liver is rotten" ...
          1. lado-6060
            -3
            26 March 2012 22: 26
            BRAVO pleased if lekso8585 wrote
            Ossetian ancestors Alan. fellow This alone makes you strongly doubt the authenticity of the information you provided. Such mistakes are made when they do something completely without delving into the essence of the matter, according to the principle of "heard the ringing", and are designed for the average layman who does not think about the truth of what was said or simply does not wants to do this ... But these flaws immediately become visible if you dig deeper and more thoroughly .. drinks so your story, moreover, the whole thing down the drain
  46. flukked
    -5
    24 March 2012 11: 49
    The author, was it impossible to tell impartially about this? The article smells the same as the Georgian film itself.
  47. +1
    24 March 2012 11: 55
    I could not watch, I almost felt sick
  48. +1
    24 March 2012 13: 49
    pay attention to 4 a minute, there is a fighter in an un-unso cap in the opening. Mishiko pro ... l this moment. Another moment. Why is there no direct inclusion of the Fox News channel in the film. Well, the one where they cough, and then go for advertising
  49. mib1982
    +2
    24 March 2012 14: 56
    alex83,
    I almost got sick. Film gamno, Mishkina propaganda. Asam Bear is a rare bastard.
  50. savelij
    +3
    24 March 2012 16: 20
    Georgian journalists sold for a dirty stinky green piece of paper!
  51. +2
    24 March 2012 17: 29
    It is clear as day by whose order and with whose money this purulent masterpiece was filmed...

    And how come they haven’t thought of giving him an Oscar yet???... laughingYYY
  52. YARY
    -1
    24 March 2012 18: 51
    There would not be a single war if there were no lies!
    One thing I will say for sure is that those who lie now and create these video creations, I think, have decided everything for themselves. They understand perfectly well what will happen to them after another “war” takes place ordered by the State Department. am
  53. Igor-71
    +1
    24 March 2012 22: 29
    It infuriates the bastard in pure Russian commenting on the film.....I’m not even talking about the Arab-like journalist)).......what kind of corrupt creatures we have that are ready to pour such diarrhea on their homeland for a pack of lari
  54. -5
    24 March 2012 23: 44
    1961, quote from the report of the Secretary of the CPSU Central Committee Mikhail Suslov: “Not today, tomorrow Georgians will begin to fight against communism, for independence. The fight against the Georgians must begin in Abkhazia. Megrelia and Svaneti should be granted autonomy. Local-national feelings must be kindled in them individually. We need to convince everyone that Georgians are settled in Abkhazia. Western Georgia must be contrasted with Eastern Georgia. After this, play the role of mediator.
  55. +2
    24 March 2012 23: 49
    an instructive tale, while the bear cub was small, it was necessary to put him down, immediately after the death of daddy, didn’t you want to? Now take a sip and think better before you formulate your desire. just like that.
    And I remember from history, at one time the Georgian king asked the Russian emperor (I don’t remember whom, I don’t want to look for him) for protection and patronage, as well as to be taken under the wing of the Russian empire (well, this was even before the revolution, long enough for some heads to forget history lessons and made appropriate conclusions)
    Well, something like this. sorry for the poor spelling of the text feel
    1. -2
      25 March 2012 00: 07
      Ni pad krilob a pamagats vaine. Nikakoi Imperii ni mog avladets Gruzia 100% ... no daverilis pravaslavnamu stranu i on nas avladel 100%. i pathom pashla prablema abkhaziii i samachablo (iujnoi asetii).
  56. -1
    25 March 2012 00: 09
    what about Rasiiskaia SMI gavarit 100% pravdu? xot 10% pravdu on gavarit?
    vaine net plaxoi i xaroshi starani.
  57. +1
    25 March 2012 00: 50
    yes, to help in the war against the Turks, and to take under the protection of the Russian Empire (I don’t remember exactly, but it seems with rights like autonomy, well, for the life of me I don’t remember, and I don’t have much desire to scour the Internet, if you want to surf the Internet and read carefully the REAL HISTORY NOT RECONDITIONED BY MODERN POLITICIANS ON BOTH SIDE OF THE BARRICADES), but in general, LET’S LIVE FRIENDLY, as the famous cat LEOPOLD once said.
    1. +3
      25 March 2012 01: 07
      ia v inet ni chitaiu patamuchto 50-60% dezanformacia. ''LET'S LIVE FRIENDLY'' 100% saglasen. '' the cat LEOPOLD'' moi liubimi miutfilm :)
      1. +2
        25 March 2012 02: 36
        The fact that our former ass-faced president gave you cannon fodder is a fact. or rather, not quite a cannon, but specialists who were bought for 3-room apartments in Kyiv. Apartment - 70-150 pcs. I have Georgian friends who live in Ukraine. Everyone, as one says, Mishiko is a p... gift and a traitor. moment is not unimportant. It turns out that the entire administrative elite is officially on Amer’s salary. This is how you explain to me a patriot of the Georgian people
        p.s. no time for literacy now. Infuriating
        1. 0
          25 March 2012 12: 12
          Da staboi ia saglasen chto mishiko p...dar i predatel, No i Putin i medvedev takie...
          No on i ivo pravitelstva padniala gruziu na nogi (do 2002 gadu vsigda bili ubiistva i 99% jitelei nebela sveta i tak daleie.) No ia ni panimaiu chto Putin gavarit liublu gruzinov no ni naviju saakashvili. esli on liubit gruzinov on ni zaiavil bi a nizavisimasti iujnoi asetii(samachablo) i abkhazii. Da bili 90 ie gada kagda jistoka ubivali v abkhazii (nebela regulornoi armii Zviad Gamsaxurdia ivo rasfarmiroval). No bili sozdani mxedrionci arwivci i tak dalie... To chto gavariat chto delali mxedrionci v abkhazii ani zabivaiut chto ani delali v astlanom gruzii v chastnetce v Samegrelo.
          Ia je gavariu vaine netu xaroshix i plaxix staron!!!
      2. lexo8585
        -2
        25 March 2012 04: 16
        BICHO I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU.
  58. 16
    16
    +2
    25 March 2012 04: 13
    I watched this documentary - complete nonsense!!!!!!!!!!!! I don’t even know who it’s aimed at? And how can sensible people vote for such a president? I can’t understand!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!
    1. 0
      25 March 2012 12: 12
      Izvinite pajalusta a War 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX. The art of betrayal eta ni bred? ili zdes gavariat pravdu ? :)
      1. Alexmos
        0
        25 March 2012 12: 23
        Quote: GEOKING95
        Izvinite pajalusta a War 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX. The art of betrayal eta ni bred? ili zdes gavariat pravdu ? :)


        Even the last monkey in modern life knows how to use TRANSLITTING, but you, the cormorant, go to Georgian resources, they love such people there smile
        1. +1
          25 March 2012 12: 30
          I'm sorry, did I offend you or what?
  59. +1
    25 March 2012 12: 18
    But in vain, we must always try to express it beautifully and competently, we must take care of our language and our speech.
    And yes, I agree with you, the movie is truly complete nonsense, and yes, it really infuriates, but alas, don’t expect anything good while THIS is in power.
    For GEOKING95, try to write in Cyrillic, can you, or am I wrong? Is this just an appearance?
    1. -1
      25 March 2012 12: 36
      It's politics and most of them don't understand that both sides are to blame!!!
      1. +2
        25 March 2012 13: 26
        Stop - who doesn't understand? If politicians, then they all understand everything perfectly well and those same politicians are to blame, oh well......these politicians. I don’t want to be afraid to go on a visit to any of our republics of the former USSR and I don’t care if you are Georgian, Armenian or any other nationality, we all have the same nationality RESIDENT OF PLANET EARTH, excuse the banality.
        And the videos in the media are propaganda and brainwashing, and whoever concocts the best is right, although over time everything falls into place.
        1. +1
          25 March 2012 15: 21
          I meant ordinary people don't understand, not politicians.
  60. Trudy
    0
    25 March 2012 14: 28
    Stsuki. I can't even watch this fabricated crap. And Filkengauer is such a bastard! Well, give me a new ban, don't give a damn! after such a blatant lie! Filkina - on KOL! !
  61. +1
    26 March 2012 04: 57
    Saakashvili doesn’t lie very well, but he chews ties so well. No one wants to let him wash his socks?... An intelligent person always distinguishes a lie from the truth, but a fanatical madman sacredly believes in a lie, and even more so if it is beneficial to him. So our truth is in our actions, we saved the Ossetians from extermination, no matter how Saakashvili and the Western media tried to denigrate Russia. It’s better to ask the residents of South Ossetia themselves about this.
  62. bunsha
    0
    7 March 2014 18: 54
    Well. Shall we discuss the “planned rotation” of the contingent in Crimea?