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L.Ivashov: “Oligarchs pushed Yeltsin to coup 1993,”

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L.Ivashov: “Oligarchs pushed Yeltsin to coup 1993,”October 1993, Moscow. More than two decades have passed, and for historians this is, in general, no time limit, but whether this reservation only works in this case is a debatable question. The main conclusions each side of that two-day civil war for itself made.


“The consequences of the coup are horrendous. In essence, an economic and social policy was given that led to extraordinary consequences. A direct consequence of these events is the 1998 default of the year. The second consequence is the complete destruction of parliamentarism and the triumph of authoritarianism ... And the most important thing: for more than a decade Russia was a satellite, America's errand servant, ”Ruslan Khasbulatov, who headed the parliament at that time, gave this bloody event.

Geopolitics, Leonid Ivashov, president of the Academy of Geopolitical Problems, who held the post of lieutenant-general in 1993, shared his memories of the events of those days in an interview with the KM.RU observer.

- I myself was in the White House and saw everything that was happening there. And they dragged me for interrogation, and to the question “Why were you there?” I answered the investigator: “Are you a lawyer?” - “In general, yes, a lawyer”. - “So why you, the lawyer, did not go to protect the law ?! After all, the Decree number 1400 illegal. "

Of course, in October, 1993 was both possible and necessary to avoid bloodshed. And if the oligarchy, who was pushing Yeltsin to forcefully suppressing parliament, would not have already imagined in their dreams those untold riches that they could seize, then there could well have been some sort of agreement.

Yeltsin lived for power. And for the sake of its strengthening, for the sake of his statement in it, he went precisely to the use of force, a completely illegal version of the “pacification” of parliament. In fact, what he organized can be classified as a coup d'état. But still it would have been possible to avoid him, if such greedy, cynical people, rushing to huge sums of money, did not stand behind his back.

Yeltsin would also hardly have gone for the force option if Bill Clinton had not supported him. In the end, he could instruct the secret services to provoke any uprising, a riot among the deputies of the Supreme Soviet themselves. But in the end I decided the way I decided.

Mikhail Poltoranin, a former deputy prime minister in the government under Yeltsin, in his memoirs “Power in TNT equivalent” describes the essence of the Yeltsin and Clinton accords in the following way (the quote is not literal - KM.RU note):

“Boris Yeltsin: Bill, I want to disperse my conservative undemocratic parliament. Will you support me?
Bill Clinton: No, Boris, I cannot support it, because this step will not support our congress.
Yeltsin was offended by a colleague and was already looking for other workarounds as soon as Clinton called him:
BK: Boris, but if you had made any such step so that I could convince Congress of the need to support you, I would then be happy ...
BE: And what should I do?
B.K .: Well, if you gave the United States half of the weapons-grade uranium, you would have a chance to convince Congress.
BE: Yes, take it all! ”


That is, as we see, Yeltsin was ready to give to the Americans at least all of the uranium, even half of Russia, for the sake of one-man power that was not controlled by anyone. He enlisted the support of the West, which untied his hands and allowed him to act brazenly, cynically. And if the States did not support Yeltsin, but would act in accordance with the principles of their democracy, then Yeltsin would hardly have decided on this step.

- Why the army did not support the defenders of the White House?

- I am sure that, probably, 99%, if not all 100% of the officer corps, and the vast majority of sergeants were on the side of the White House. But the army lives on orders. But after all, pay attention to the difficulty with which the leadership of the Ministry of Defense was looking for crews ready to shoot at the White House! Grachev himself told about this how difficult it was to negotiate, how the soldiers had to be misled: they did not say that they were to shoot at people. They said: hit the guy, hit the target, check your accuracy.

This is more eloquent nowhere to say that the army did not support the shooting of the House of Soviets. They tried to persuade the military, promised them apartments, promotions. However, for example, the commander of the Kantemirov division refused to lead Tanks to the White House: brought them to the ring road and then did not lead. Finally, they found Mr. Evnevich, the commander of the Taman Division, who undeservedly got his post. They persuaded him, promised him the Star of the Hero - and he agreed.
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  1. Tatyana
    Tatyana 5 October 2017 16: 00
    +15
    That's right! So it was, as Leonid Ivashov says! But it was even worse! By the fires and tents of the White House’s national defenders, by the order of the EBN, completely unarmed people were shot! But in general, the number of victims then in Moscow - during a coup d'etat in the Russian Federation and the capture of the White House by Yeltsinists - varies in those days from 2 to 20 thousand people.
    1. stas-xnumx
      stas-xnumx 5 October 2017 16: 18
      +1
      Of course, I apologize, I don’t want to offend anyone, but, "from 2 to 20 thousand people?" Can you imagine this figure in civilian casualties? Yes, even in the capital?
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 5 October 2017 16: 42
        +2
        Imagine. 2 thousand dead and missing - this, if my memory serves me, there were only unofficial official figures.
      2. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 5 October 2017 17: 29
        +7
        Quote: stas-21127
        Can you imagine this figure in civilian casualties? Yes, even in the capital?

        And there it was just not full of Muscovites. We will believe the authorities with the number 140 people. The Yeltsin Center will confirm.
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 5 October 2017 17: 48
          +12
          Mordvin 3
          We will believe the authorities with the number 140 people.
          140 people - these are only those MOSCOW citizens who had documents proving their identity. The corpses of nonresident citizens with documents and citizens without documents were not taken into account by the authorities at all and did not even bother with this. It’s just that they were all secretly cremated without an “account” for 2 weeks around the clock.
          1. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 5 October 2017 17: 54
            +6
            Quote: Tatiana
            Nonresident and without documents the authorities generally did not take into account at all and did not bother them.



          2. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 5 October 2017 17: 58
            +6
            Quote: Tatiana
            The corpses of nonresident citizens with documents and citizens without documents were not taken into account by the authorities at all and did not even bother with this.

            So I write about it. Missing, and all. No body - no business.
  2. Alena Frolovna
    Alena Frolovna 5 October 2017 16: 14
    +13
    Do not justify the meanness and violation of the oath by soldiers and officers who shot at unarmed people, regardless of age.
    Many of these executioners are still alive and deserve nothing but contempt perished innocently ETERNAL MEMORY.

    Alexander Rutskoi: «I hope that he by the end of his life, he understood what really happened then, in 1993».

    In 2003, Archimandrite Kirill (Pavlov) blessed the priest Viktor Kuznetsov to work on a book of memoirs about "black october"In these words:
    «There is a lesson in everything. And shooting so many people in 1993, the country's highest legislative body, elected by the people, is a special crime! Here a rare crime was committed. You must not forget about him.».

    Elder Nikolai (Guryanov) told Alexander Pavlovich Repetov about the victims of the White House:
    "They are all blissful. Pray for them. And they will pray for you. ” He also said that the souls of those killed in the White House, as well as the souls of many defenders of the Fatherland in the Great Patriotic War, went straight to paradise, bypassing ordeals".

    *** Remember General Romanov, who was almost killed in the Chechen war, but remained alive and confined to a wheelchair - it was he who led the execution and received the star of a hero from Yeltsin’s hands (I write with a small letter because there is no respect).
    It’s a pity, in a Christian way, for everyone who is soiled in one way or another in this innocent blood, who did not realize what they had done.
    1. Duisenbay Bankankulov
      Duisenbay Bankankulov 5 October 2017 18: 01
      +1
      Alena, you're wrong! Shot prepared and knowledgeable in a sniper rifle.
      1. Alena Frolovna
        Alena Frolovna 5 October 2017 21: 49
        +5
        I'm right. And I also know about the snipers who staged a selective slaughter. On the walls of the bell tower of the Temple of the Nine Kizic Martyrs, located opposite the American Embassy and next to the White House, they left risks in terms of the number of those killed.
    2. Ivan Tartugai
      Ivan Tartugai 7 October 2017 06: 31
      +3
      Quote: Alena Frolovna
      *** Remember General Romanov, who was almost killed in the Chechen war

      General Romanov was the chief military commander of the troops who shot and dispersed people in 1993 at the White House. Was from beginning to end of this shameful operation for the army. Naturally, General Romanov knows a lot, could tell a lot and who charged him with this “business”, and who promised him personally what this “business” was, and who, specifically, from the generals developed this “operation”, and how the options were discussed decisions at the top, and who specifically insisted on the execution, on the use of troops for execution, in particular tanks for combat shooting at the building and at people. He became the most illuminated, nodal participant in the execution and the main witness, information flowed to him from below, from direct performers and instructions from above.
      And after the execution and dispersal, General Romanov naturally became superfluous. It seems that his own bosses and “benefactors” decided to hand over Romanov to the militants in Chechnya, as already worked out, and the main information is extremely dangerous for the environment of EBN material. Now General Romanov has nothing to say and nothing to write either.
  3. midshipman
    midshipman 5 October 2017 16: 42
    +16
    I had to meet this Drunk when he was still the First Secretary of the CPSU MGK. This was required by the situation then. When delaying the development of new technology at Moscow enterprises, the consent of the CPSU MGK was necessary. I came to him with the secretary of the Moskvoretsky District Committee of the CPSU, Borisov Yu.I. In this area was the Temp software subordinate to me. The impression was always disgusting. He was already drunk in his office.
    And I can add to the account of the shooting of the White House tanks. Four officers who commanded the tanks were killed after a month or two. Who shot them is unknown. I have the honor.
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 5 October 2017 17: 40
      +6
      Quote: midshipman
      Four officers who commanded the tanks were killed in a month or two

      In the tanks, the shooting crews of the white house were only officers.
      They just got paid.

      Here are some details of those events:
  4. igorra
    igorra 5 October 2017 17: 02
    +3
    Quote: stas-21127
    Of course, I apologize, I don’t want to offend anyone, but, "from 2 to 20 thousand people?" Can you imagine this figure in civilian casualties? Yes, even in the capital?

    If memory serves: every year 100 people disappear in Russia, of which only half is in the first year, and you say that 000 people will be lost, despite banditry, state and thieves lawlessness, and civil indifference (people simply survived) in those years.
  5. bandabas
    bandabas 5 October 2017 18: 21
    +2
    Yeltsin, Yeltsin, and these “democlowns” (Khasbulatov and his company) were quietly released after 4 months, and they still feel great. They framed a bunch of ordinary people to death and, betraying them, cowardly saved their lives.
    1. g1v2
      g1v2 5 October 2017 18: 35
      +2
      These were the sides of the same coin, as in the year 91. GKChP broke allied power structures and disrupted the functioning of the bureaucracy. And then Benya came on a white horse and type overthrew them. Both gkchpisty and Benya were parts of one game. Therefore, they were released very quickly when the job was done. And they lived on perfectly and were even respected politicians. And no one touched them. And they felt quite normal. Then they didn’t break into the barricades. request
  6. g1v2
    g1v2 5 October 2017 18: 30
    +1
    What are the oligarchs in FIG in 93? belay
  7. Aspid 57
    Aspid 57 5 October 2017 20: 10
    0
    Amazingly lying article! The communists staged an armed rebellion! Some militants got out of the basements of the White House and tried to arrange a coup! But Thank God Moscow is not Kiev and Yeltsin is not Yanukovych! Crushed like bugs!
    1. fa2998
      fa2998 6 October 2017 08: 05
      +2
      I will not judge who is right, but in 1991 and 1993, heavy equipment was introduced into the capital (tanks, armored personnel carriers), crushed, shot at people. And no one is sitting. request hi
      1. lukewarm
        lukewarm 6 October 2017 15: 39
        +1
        Quote: fa2998
        but in 1991 and 1993, heavy equipment was introduced into the capital (tanks, armored personnel carriers), crushed, shot at people.

        In 1991 they didn’t shoot people, they didn’t crush tanks, with the exception of 3 “heroes” - those who fought for everything to be repeated an order of magnitude in 1993.
    2. Seraphimamur
      Seraphimamur 8 October 2017 08: 29
      0
      Judging by your comment, you probably haven't finished school yet. So ask your parents how it was. And read more, preferably not comics.
  8. samarin1969
    samarin1969 5 October 2017 20: 49
    +4
    It is hard to imagine something more sad in Russian history than such an emergence of the current government in the early 90's.
  9. orthodox
    orthodox 5 October 2017 21: 04
    +9
    After death, Cromwell was dug up and hanged already dead. And why is ebee worse than Cromwell?
  10. Glory1974
    Glory1974 5 October 2017 21: 19
    +5
    Stanislav Govorukhin made a film about the events of October 1993 of the year. In democratic Russia, this film is still banned for viewing. From an interview with the director on television (1990-ies): "Such censorship as I have now not seen under the Soviet Union."
    There are documentary shots in the film, as unknown people use automatic weapons point blank to shoot a column of unarmed people.
  11. LAWNER
    LAWNER 5 October 2017 22: 08
    +6
    To bury him with Khrushchev in the same grave as a "jack."
  12. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 6 October 2017 06: 04
    +6
    Even the Bolsheviks, who are usually accused of almost cannibalism, did not shoot the constituent assembly from cannons!

    And then there are two main democrats - Yeltsin + any (not necessarily Clinton) president of the United States.

    And in the Elzing Center we are invited to admire them! Yeltsin for Russia is Alцien, that is, the same cinematic alien who destroyed everything, devoured it, burned it with acid and planted the Bohemian parasites of money-grubbing, greed and vileness into Soviet people.
  13. Ivan Tartugai
    Ivan Tartugai 6 October 2017 19: 59
    +1
    Quote from the article:
    This is more eloquent nowhere to say that the army did not support the shooting of the House of Soviets. They tried to persuade the military promised them apartments, promotions.

    Military persuaded and persuaded. They, the military, nevertheless took up and executed the execution of the people of the White House. Still, there were soldiers who supported and carried out the execution. Probably, for this “work-service” they received apartments, and promotions and other amenities in the form of orders, medals, cash rewards. In particular, they broadcast on TV that before the execution, the acting Gaidar, by his order, seized directly from the Moscow Printing House a large amount of brand new crisp cash.
    And these direct executors of the execution were also persuaded by the military, who supported the execution, but already the generals of the Russian Federation, headed by the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation, Hero of the Soviet Union, Army General Grachev. Only generals could give the green light to the withdrawal of servicemen and military equipment to Moscow for execution. Only the generals gave commands to refuel fuel and lubricants for military equipment, to dispense ammunition for live firing. Without the approval and command of the generals of the Russian Federation, not a single tank could appear in front of the White House.
    Looks like the oligarchs, not only Yeltsin, but also the generals pushed for a coup.
  14. nnz226
    nnz226 7 October 2017 13: 15
    +2
    Drunken cattle! And not the first prize ...
    1. Sharansky
      Sharansky 8 October 2017 01: 43
      +1
      What a people, such a president. Putin still respects him; it was not in vain that he opened the Yeltsin Center.
  15. Sedoy
    Sedoy 7 October 2017 17: 45
    +2
    everything was taken into account ...
  16. Conductor
    Conductor 9 October 2017 03: 48
    0
    Very interesting - I am sure that probably 99%, if not all 100% of the officer corps, and the vast majority of sergeants were on the side of the White House. But the army lives by order. In Chile in 1973, the army did not give a damn about Allende’s orders and left when he got everyone.
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 9 October 2017 04: 00
      +7
      Quote: Conductor
      the army lives by order.

      That is how
  17. Conductor
    Conductor 9 October 2017 03: 54
    +1
    By the way, how many officers resigned in 1993, due to disagreement with the actions of the EBN, were not dismissed, namely, they themselves resigned. And why did our officer corps suffer the deprivations of the 90s, not paying cash allowances, why didn’t they throw this pack away?
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 9 October 2017 03: 59
      +7
      Quote: Conductor
      By the way, how many officers resigned in 1993

      Stamp: did not serve in the Soviet Army.
      Malcheg, go ... forest, field and peat bog.
      You're nobody, and no way to call ... scarecrow
  18. tank64rus
    tank64rus 9 October 2017 18: 52
    0
    Yes, a crime is a crime. Yes, the Jacobins did not dare to shoot at the French National Assembly, but only threatened with guns. But EBN outdid them. Although it’s hard to reproach the kindness of the Jacobins. Some children’s guillotines are standing.
  19. valerei
    valerei 9 October 2017 19: 19
    +1
    At that time, the entire elite of the highest power were traitors to Russia's interests. The top had enough power to crush the "oligarchs", but the top (both Yeltsin and Khasbulatov) themselves wanted to participate in the plunder of Russia, just could not agree on the fat content of the pieces. Therefore, the shooting began. And what about the legality of the elected parliament of Russia, then see who stood at its head: Khasbulatov is a Chechen. So Russia was still “lucky” that Yeltsin “shot” Khasbulatov, as it does not sound paradoxical.