Russian launch vehicles: 2017 year and near future

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At the beginning of October, 1957, the world's first artificial Earth satellite, launched into orbit with the aid of the P-7 rocket, opened the way to space. Further work in the rocket and space field led to the emergence of new devices of various classes, launch vehicles, manned programs, etc. To date, the launch of the rocket with one or another payload has become quite an ordinary and routine event. Russian experts continue to work, and meet the anniversary of the flight "Sputnik-1" with good results in the field of launch vehicles.

Russia, which possesses carrier rockets of several classes and types, is sometimes derogatoryly called the “space carrier”. However, if we take into account the specifics of the industry, such a name can be interpreted in a positive way. The existing fleet of missiles and upper stages makes it possible to solve various tasks, and output one or another payload to different orbits. Moreover, in certain areas, Russian technology is in fact a monopolist - due to the well-known events of the recent past, access to the International Space Station is now provided only by the Soyuz series.




Launch of the Proton-M launch vehicle


During this year, the Russian rocket and space industry should conduct 19 launches of several types of launch vehicles. To date, most of these plans have been completed: 13 missiles successfully delivered a payload to orbit. By the end of the year, 6 launches are planned. The first two of them are scheduled for next week - October 12 and October 13.

The main platform for Russian launches is still the Baikonur Cosmodrome. This year, 13 has been assigned to it. Three more rockets have already launched from Plesetsk, and in the near future another one will be added to this list. In November and December, two rocket launches are planned from the newest Vostochny space center. This will be the second and third start from the newly built site.

This year most of the launches are carried out with the use of Soyuz launch vehicles. The manned program involves Soyuz-FG missiles with Soyuz-MS series ships. Other missions to put into orbit are solved with the help of Soyuz-2.1а, Soyuz-2.1b, Soyuz-2.1в and Soyuz-U carriers. From April to December, Roskosmos must launch a total of four rockets with astronauts on board and 9 "Soyuz" with various automatic vehicles. Among them are three space "truck" type "Progress MS".

Separately, it should be noted two launches of Soyuz-ST missiles made this year. These launches from the French Kourou cosmodrome do not formally refer to the Russian ones. Nevertheless, despite the use of a foreign cosmodrome, they use Russian-made launch vehicles. Thus, they can also be taken into account when analyzing the current work of Roskosmos and related organizations.

In the recent past, the domestic space industry was forced to temporarily suspend the operation of Proton-M launch vehicles. Since then, the existing problems have been solved, and these missiles returned to work. 8 of June, 17 of August, 11 and 28 of September, four carriers of this type successfully put a payload into orbit - one domestic and three foreign communication satellites. The next launch of the Proton-M is scheduled for next year. According to some information, in this flight the launch vehicle will send a new laboratory module for the ISS into space. In addition, plans to launch heavy satellites of various types in the interests of various customers.

Other launch vehicles also remain in operation, but they have only two launches. On October 13, the Rokot rocket is launched from Plesetsk with the Breeze-KM upper stage, whose mission will be the launch of the European satellite Sentinel-5P into orbit. In early December, the complex of the Zenit-3SLBF rocket and the Fregat-SB upper stage will launch the AngoSat Angolan communications satellite into space.

Traditionally - for obvious reasons - Roskosmos is the main customer of launches of domestic launch vehicles. This trend continues in the current 2017 year. From 19, formally Russian launches of 10 are performed under a contract with a domestic state corporation. First of all, these orders are related to the support of the ISS, and imply the launch of the Soyuz-MS and Progress-MS type ships.

At the same time, other payloads were launched and planned for launch. This year, it is planned to send three Earth-sensing satellites of the Canopus-V series into orbit. One of them brought 14 July, the other two will be launched at the end of the year. At the end of November, the launch of the Soyuz-2.1b rocket with the Meteor-M satellite is scheduled.


Launch of the satellite "Kanopus-V-IK" (July 14) in the artist's view


The second largest number of launches is the Russian Air and Space Forces, which have ordered four starts. In May and June, spacecraft systems put into orbit the Kosmos-2518 and Cosmos-2519 devices. According to reports, this technique is used as part of a missile attack warning system. In August, in the interests of VKS, the launch of the communication satellite Blagovest-1 took place. On September 22, the Soyuz-2.1b rocket launched from the Plesetsk cosmodrome sent another satellite of the GLONASS navigation system into space. As far as we know, until the end of the year, new launches in the interests of the Aerospace Forces are not planned.

The category of commercial launches in the interests of foreign customers can only be attributed to 5 launches (or 7 - taking into account two "French" from the Kourou cosmodrome). In early June, the Proton-M with the Breeze-M upper stage launched the American communications satellite EchoStar 21 into orbit. In September, Russian missiles sent into space communication satellites, commissioned by Spanish and Hong Kong commercial organizations. In October and December, the Russian space industry will execute orders from the European Space Agency and the Angolan company AngoSat.

In general, the statistics of Russian launches in the current 2017 year looks good. Domestic carriers account for a significant proportion of launches, and in addition, they retain their leading positions in global statistics. However, there is a noticeable lag behind the US rocket and space industry, which currently holds the first place in the number of launches.

In the first nine months of 2017, 62 launched space rockets around the world, the vast majority of which were found to be successful. 20 starts accounted for several US organizations. Russia with 13 launches ranks second on the leaderboard. The third place is shared by China and ESA, who completed 9 launches. Thus, from the point of view of absolute numbers, the position of Russian astronautics looks decent and allows one to do without pessimism.

However, it should be noted the specific structure of the Russian order book. Two thirds of the launches of Russian launch vehicles (if we consider Russian-made carriers built for the Kourou cosmodrome) fall on orders from Roskosmos and the Aerospace Forces. Only seven out of two dozen missiles must deliver a commercial payload into orbit. The structure of orders of foreign rocket and space organizations looks different. For example, in the case of the American industry, the number of commercial launches can be compared with the number of orders from government organizations.

These circumstances are not very pleasant consequences of a financial nature. So, last year the volume of the world market of commercial launches reached 2,5 billion US dollars. Of this amount, only 130 million went to the Russian space industry. The remaining more than two billion were divided mainly by American companies, including private ones, and the European Space Agency. This year the numbers should change noticeably, but the current trend is not likely to change. Seven commercial launches for the year do not allow us to expect to receive big profits.

The Russian rocket and space industry sees this problem and is already looking for ways to solve it. With the implementation of all existing plans, Russia will get a chance to significantly increase its share in the market of commercial space "traffic". According to experts, one of the main problems lies in the structure of the rocket technology park. In the foreseeable future, it is proposed to create several new launch vehicles with the required characteristics, but differing in reduced launch costs.

In the early twenties, it is planned to put a new medium, the Soyuz-5, to be put to the test, and by the middle of the decade it should be put into operation. First of all, this rocket is considered as the carrier of the manned ship "Federation", but it can be equipped with another payload.


Rocket "Soyuz-FG" with the ship "Progress MS-05", launched on July 28


Based on the existing heavy-duty rocket Proton-M, several new projects are proposed to be created. By changing the composition of the aggregates, it will be possible to build carriers of the light and middle class, fully capable of competing with foreign counterparts. Projects Proton Medium and Proton Light are still at the design stage. The first flight of the modification of the middle class is scheduled for 2019 year. Upon completion of all necessary checks, the rocket will receive a recommendation for further operation. Not later than the mid-twenties, both new "Protons" can become full-fledged commercial carriers.

It is noteworthy that the developed rocket has already attracted the attention of potential customers. Earlier it was reported that the company International Launch Services, which will operate the Proton Light and Proton Medium complexes, has already received the first order. Eutelsat Communications, a large communications company, intends to send its new spacecraft into orbit with the help of the updated Proton. Other details of this order, however, have not yet been clarified.

At present, Russia has a whole range of modern launch vehicles of several classes capable of outputting different payloads to different orbits. This technique finds application in the scientific and military fields, and also promotes the development of communication systems. The existing nomenclature of carriers does not yet allow to easily obtain all the desired contracts, but new projects are being created to solve this problem.

All this means that the remaining plans for the current 2017 year will be fulfilled, and in the next 2018, Russian enterprises will carry out new launches, both ordered by domestic state organizations and commercial ones. Despite certain problems and difficulties, the space industry celebrated its anniversary with successes and a reason for restrained optimism.


On the materials of the sites:
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http://rg.ru/
http://ria.ru/
http://tass.ru/
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  1. +13
    5 October 2017 08: 09
    The title of the article is completely inconsistent with the content ...

    Only time wasted.

    the author adopted the principles of the work of Western journalists - a big name, but in the article zilch?
  2. +1
    5 October 2017 08: 25
    We look forward to the near future, namely: LV Energy-5V
    it is time to resume the program of orbital stations "Almaz" "Skif-DM" "Mir-2" ........
    1. 0
      6 October 2017 23: 20
      So far so far. Now there is no need for these orbital stations, although the corresponding work is underway.
      1. 0
        7 October 2017 09: 10
        Why revive a stillborn project? If necessary, completely new machines must be made.
        1. +1
          8 October 2017 23: 08
          strongly disagree
          1. LV Energy-5V on the new software, new materials, completely different performance characteristics
          2. Diamond, this is the starting project of all spacecraft of the type Progress, Union
          3. Scythian. It's time to give an asymmetric response to the Boeing X-37
          4. OS Mir-2. We have already outgrown the ISS.
          1. 0
            9 October 2017 19: 47
            1. It will be a completely new rocket.
            2. "Diamond" has no relation to the Soyuz and Progress spacecraft. If only because they were made by different organizations. If a military manned station is required, then it must be made completely new, without regard to Almaz.
            3. There was no "Scythian". In the "iron" was made only its layout. Even the demo version did not reach the “iron”, and the combat was not even “on paper”. And where does the X-37? This is a car of a completely different class and purpose.
            4. Mir-2 was also a stillborn project, and there is no point in reanimating what was not born. If you need to create a national orbital station, then it needs to be built not according to the Mir-2 project, but according to a new project, taking into account current capabilities, technical, economic and scientific.
          2. 0
            26 October 2017 10: 07
            Scythian as an answer to the X-37B is very asymmetric. A 100-ton fool against a 5-ton space plane.
  3. +2
    5 October 2017 08: 29
    Author:
    Access to the International Space Station is now provided only by Soyuz spacecraft.

    What are you?! .... maybe I don’t understand something, but it seems like Dragons since 2012. drag something on the ISS
    1. +5
      5 October 2017 09: 17
      Manned flights yes, only by Unions. And Russian Progress, Japanese HTV, American Dragon and Signus plus earlier European ATVs provide the supply. From entertaining facts: a Japanese ship can deliver 2 times more than the rest, and Dragon is the only one that can deliver cargo back to Earth.

      By the way, in my opinion, there is not a word in the article that last year China for the first time ahead of Russia in the number of launches.



      http://ecoruspace.me/Запуски+2016+года.html
  4. +6
    5 October 2017 08: 34
    I wonder why a couple of missiles were launched from Vostochny and that's all. And with such fanfare they talked about its construction, they said that it is very necessary. It turned out that I do not need something, I do not understand.
    1. +1
      5 October 2017 10: 20
      Come on, Kazakhstan will drop in the manner of Ukraine and see if we need it or not.
    2. +3
      5 October 2017 17: 00
      Quote: Belyash
      I wonder why a couple of missiles were launched from Vostochny and that's all.

      because the spaceport turned-ONE-TIME (well, OR 2X)
      1. As long as there is Baikonur - the eastern one DOESN'T NEED ANYONE (this is the "Oriental Tale of Roskosmos" .. we don’t have money, we don’t have much to do)
      2. In Vostochny, they build one launch pad under the Angara and launch a military satellite every two years from there, purely so as not to forget how to make a rocket and not to rust the table.
      3. Angara will not be - no one needs it, and always was not needed.
      “Angara” was always used for any other purpose than launching spacecraft.
      Existing rockets continued to be used for normal rocket work: A1 capabilities are Dnipro, Rokot, Soyuz-U, A3 is Soyuz-2 and Zenit, A5 is Proton, and A7 are loads of such no.

      There are no commercial prospects either - the rocket is twice as expensive as the Proton.
      The Proton launch vehicle is now out of work (because of Elon Mask), I’m wondering what the clowns joking over his pasta are trying on now?
      https://topwar.ru/95589-v-zaschitu-makaronnogo-mo
      nstra-ilona-maska-zamolvim-slovo-ili-razbor-lyapo
      v-pisatelya.html
      In defense of the pasta monster Ilona Mask put in a word. Part of 1
      https://topwar.ru/95610-v-zaschitu-makaronnogo-mo
      nstra-ilona-maska-zamolvim-slovoprodolzhenie.html

      In defense of the pasta monster Ilona Mask put in a word. Part of 2

      4. If the “Phoenix” comes out with the price of “Zenith”, then it will be three times cheaper than the “Hangar A5”, with comparable launch capabilities, if you start from the equator to SeaLaunch.
      Starting tables for Zenit in Baikonur are ready.

      SeaLaunch is ready to go to sea.
      5.Roskosmos pumped up the colossal industrial potential inherited from the USSR for "so." Mediocre.
      6. The project of the Kazakh-Russian spaceport "Baiterek" moved from the dead as soon as they ceased to inhale Kazkosmosu-RN "Angara", replacing it with "Phoenix"

      Only defective or pest, having:


      + All logistics for symbolic rental money, abandon this and will build a new cosmodrome for billions of $.
      / It would be better if he himself jumped on a trampoline or took up his direct profession = journalism

      Quote: NickiShnapi
      Come on, Kazakhstan will drop in the manner of Ukraine and see if we need it or not

      Kazakhs are not UO mutants, and not kaakly.
      Only a ram will abandon the status of a cosmic power, for the sake of pleasure it is to jump
      1. +2
        5 October 2017 18: 10
        A7 - there are no such loads.
        Lunar and interplanetary ships (parts). No rocket - no ships.
        1. +1
          5 October 2017 18: 28
          Quote: Falcon5555
          Lunar and interplanetary ships (parts).

          1. A rocket is built under the ship (PN, warhead)., And not vice versa.
          On credit, this industry does not work.
          2. For the LC you need 2 sites (SP) under the "Hangar". No money
          3. Who needs it: a lunar ship?
          after 2030 maybe
          1. +2
            5 October 2017 19: 21
            1. A rocket is built under the ship (PN, warhead)., And not vice versa.

            Nonsense.
            Here a proton flies a thousand years. Generations of satellites have already changed a hundred times, and he is flying.
            While there is no rocket, no one will build a ship that is unclear what to launch.
            2. For the LC you need 2 sites (SP) under the "Hangar". No money

            Why 2 - I don’t know. If there is money for the Olympics and football, do not tell me that there is no money.
            3. Who needs it: a lunar ship?
            In what sense? Do you want to sell? But, while there is no rocket, nobody really needs it.
            1. +1
              5 October 2017 22: 13
              Quote: Falcon5555
              Here a proton flies a thousand years

              Do not confuse soft and warm
              In the early 1960s, the space race between the USSR and the USA reached its climax.
              By the beginning of the 1960s, the leadership of the USSR decided to create a new generation of rockets capable of launching into space both a large payload and heavy, heavy-duty nuclear charges.
              The main design schools participated in the competition: OKB Koroleva proposed the N-1 rocket, Yangel's OKB a heavy R-56 rocket, and OKB No. 52 under the leadership of Chelomei proposed a family of missiles under the name UR - Universal Rocket. Chelomei planned to create 4 unified missiles at once: the light UR-100 ICBM, the medium UR-200 ICBM, the UR-500 heavy carrier and the UR-700 super-heavy carrier.
              ..
              Rocket created as a civil - for delivery to space of heavy loads, so military - as a strategic carrier of superheavy bombs with a capacity of up to 150 megatons.
              ...
              Due to the high accident rate and a large number of improvements, the Proton-K was adopted only by 1978 after 61 completed launches ...
              well and so on


              De facto: no one needs a proton right now and served as a scandal for Kazakhstan and the Russian Federation, in fact, together with Rogozin, Proton launch vehicle: the initiator of huge money chats at the Vostochny joint venture (which no one needs either)
              Quote: Falcon5555
              Until there is a rocket, no one will build a ship,


              or

              (replace warhead with mon, and that's it)

              no need to reinvent the wheel
              Quote: Falcon5555
              don't tell me there is no money.

              it's not me

              Quote: Falcon5555
              In what sense?

              in direct.
              1. We are not the first
              2.Oil gas / no there
              3. Scientific value is close to 0
              4. Who will pay?
              1. +2
                6 October 2017 01: 00
                So nobody needs Proton, and the Vostochny spaceport. Oh my god, nothing is needed. What is missing, nothing is needed! But what is needed? What do you need?
                And why are these photos? They taught you (or not you) to do military missiles in military exercises, so what? What are we talking about?
                We are talking about the moon and planets (in general, including everything else - planetoid asteroids and comets). What - the moon does not need to be studied? Do you need to protect yourself from asteroids and comets? Then we return to the first question - what do you think is needed?
                1. +2
                  6 October 2017 16: 19
                  Quote: Falcon5555
                  What do you need?

                  LV is cheaper at the cost of withdrawal of 1 kg bp per DOE or high environmental
                  The World of Capital, A. Smith
                  Quote: Falcon5555
                  And why are these photos? They taught you (or not you) to do military missiles in military exercises, so what? What are we talking about?

                  no difference.
                  This is the design technique of the launch vehicle (ICBM)
                  Quote: Falcon5555
                  What - the moon does not need to be studied?

                  necessary.
                  It is necessary to study both A, B-Centaurus and the Andromeda nebula.
                  and what?
                  Quote: Falcon5555
                  Do you need to protect yourself from asteroids and comets?

                  fool
                  At least one example in the memory of mankind, when "asteroids and comets" harmed it?
                  and then = bunch
                  Quote: opus
                  And what does the expression "TELL HOW I PUNCHED IN A Puddle" means?
                  A:
                  There is a lot of sound, zero sense. A verbal stink-circles from language to language!

                  there is no need to spread waffleism similar to the hype of flu shots
                  2016: 107 people died from the effects of the flu in Russia, among them 8 children

                  oh, yay. EPIDEMIA?
                  for morons
                  2016: Russia. 23 people died in traffic accidents during the year
                  Traffic police statistics published

                  Quote: Falcon5555
                  What do you think is needed?

                  already answered, but in general:
                  - that would bring the invaders from my homeland
                  - so that the percentage of smart people was not 3%, but at least 40%
                  - that Heritage would not come true (but it seems to come true)
                  1. +3
                    6 October 2017 21: 12
                    No, well, of course, you are a good critic, but you don’t know how to look into the future. “Today, tomorrow, not everyone can watch. Rather, not only everyone can watch - few can do it. ”
                    What is your homeland and who are the occupiers, and about the "Heritage" - I do not know. And what will we do with space? You agree to study the moon - well.
                    At least one example in the memory of mankind, when "asteroids and comets" harmed it?

                    What about Chebarkul? There, the mass of people cut glass. A Tunguska meteorite would fall on Moscow, hundreds of thousands, if not millions, would die. So, at the end of the twenties, and then 36 there will be a meeting with Apophis, the probability of a collision with which is somehow very strange estimated - a probability that is incomprehensible how it is calculated and it is not clear what it means, and then he will (probably always) come closer to the Earth and when - anything irreparable (if you do nothing) can happen. Will we wait for him, or any other, to fall at your dacha?
                    1. 0
                      7 October 2017 02: 05
                      Quote: Falcon5555
                      No, well, of course, you are a good critic, but you don’t know how to look into the future.

                      Good fart.
                      I am only looking to the future
                      Quote: Falcon5555
                      What is your homeland and who are the occupiers, and about the "Heritage" - I do not know.

                      I have one homeland
                      Occupants - Crembles
                      "Legacy" is Tarmashev
                      http://tarmashev.com/worlds_info.php?worlds_id=6
                      syllable -g00no, the idea is not bad
                      Quote: Falcon5555
                      And what will we do with space? You agree to study the moon - well.

                      Nothing that my Homeland can do with space (can), maybe, "OCCUPIERS in the Kremlin"
                      I do not agree, the moon does not study the FIG (I wanted to write about the ear), the sense of the "study"?
                      Yeah yeah good
                      Quote: Falcon5555
                      What about Chebarkul? There, the mass of people cut glass

                      what nonsense
                      According to various sources, from 100 to 400 people suffered from the explosion of a large meteoroid in the Chelyabinsk region and Western Siberia

                      Tolley 100, or 400
                      you fizd some.
                      Name, registration?

                      2013:
                      Quote: Falcon5555
                      What about Chebarkul? There, the mass of people cut glass.

                      On January 29, 2013, a SCAT airline Bombardier CRJ-200 flying a DV760 flight from Kokshetau to Alma-Ata collided with a ground surface of 1,5 km from the end of the runway when approaching at Almaty Airport (5 km from the center of the airfield). The actual visibility on the runway was 200 m, which is higher than the meteorological minimum of the airfield (75 m), but worse than the meteorological minimum of the aircraft commander (300 m). All 21 people on board the aircraft, including 5 crew members, died.
                      On February 13, 2013, the plane of the Ukrainian Southern Airlines airline operating the Odessa-Donetsk flight split in half as a result of an emergency landing at the Donetsk airport. On board the An-24 were 52 people. 26 passengers asked for medical help, nine of them were hospitalized. Five people became victims of the crash, they are all residents of Odessa.
                      On March 9, 2013, in the Congo, during a Shabund – Bukavu flight, a UN-chartered UTair Mi-8AMT helicopter (tail number RA-22472) crashed and 4 people were on board. The helicopter was found in hard-to-reach areas at an altitude of 2700 meters, destroyed and partially burned. All four crew members aboard the helicopter died
                      On May 6, 2013, in the village of Preobrazhenka, Katanga District, Irkutsk Region, the Mi-8 helicopter of Angara Airlines did not contact the set time, participating in monitoring the flood situation. All 10 people on board the helicopter died.
                      On July 2, 2013, in the Republic of Yakutia, during the flight from the village of Deputatsky to the village of Cossack, a Mi-8 helicopter owned by the Polar Airlines company crashed. On board the helicopter were 28 people, including 11 children. The crash killed 24 people; three crew members and one passenger were rescued.
                      July 6, 2013 at the airport in San Francisco (USA), during a landing approach, a Boeing 777 of an Asiana Airlines airline crashed while flying from Seoul [168]. Onboard there were 307 people (291 passengers and 16 crew members). As a result of the disaster, 3 on board died, 181 were injured.
                      On October 16, 2013 in Laos, an ATR-72 of Lao Airlines crashed into the Mekong River. Onboard there were 5 crew members and 44 passengers. The crash killed all 49 people..
                      On November 17, 2013, a Boeing 737 aircraft of the Tatarstan airline crashed at the Kazan airport during an approach. Onboard there were 50 people (44 passengers and 6 crew members). As a result of the disaster, all those on board died. Accident of Boeing 737 in Kazan

                      Some crap
                      Quote: Falcon5555
                      There, the mass of people cut glass.

                      weight? and cut and HZK "cut",
                      against more than 100 dead, only in plane crashes
                      In 2013, more than 27 people, or almost 000 people per 19 thousand people, died in road accidents in Russia.

                      question: where is the danger and where to invest against this danger?
                      Answer? fool
                      Quote: Falcon5555
                      So, at the end of the twenties, and then 36 there will be a meeting with Apophis, the probability of a collision with which is somehow very strange estimated - a probability that is not clear how it is calculated and it is not clear what it means, and then he (probably always) will be with the Earth

                      After the January passage of the asteroid past the Earth in 2013, NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory specialists stated that the possibility of a collision with the Earth in 2029 was excluded, and in 2036 - extremely unlikely
                      https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/asteroids/news
                      /asteroid20130110.html
                      / there are still people who are afraid to fuck up in public, well, incontinence or some kind of snowstorm.
                      and sho?
                      1. +2
                        7 October 2017 15: 05
                        I read ... Rude. Just "fu how rude." And you don’t know how to look tomorrow. So your homeland is Russia (since you are talking about the Kremlin). And then when you wrote "that they would withdraw the invaders from MY Motherland" (and not ours), you would think that you have some other, your own homeland, which is quite usual after the collapse of the USSR. "Occupants - Crembles" - Genby? Although ... let's get better about space.
                        Tarmashev is a mystic. “Syllable -00, idea is not bad,” I did not understand.
                        and in 2036 it is extremely unlikely
                        They give the value of probability and it is small. But if they don’t even know where it will fly, then, since space is great, the likelihood will also be small. But you must admit that this situation should not relax us. The very concept of classical probability is not entirely applicable to this in some sense - a collision may have already been determined - it will either simply be or not, we just don’t know about it yet. Therefore, a small "probability" means nothing in this matter. In addition, do you, for example, have an idea about poker? There you need to measure the probabilities with the consequences of losing, otherwise you’ll blow everything up in a long sequence of games. If you can lose with a probability of 10 ^ -5, but as a result you will go broke and have to put a bullet in your forehead, then you (if not a gamer) will probably lose interest in the game, throw cards and leave - for example, grow your tomatoes in the country - right ? But Apophis is a global catastrophe with mass deaths. Why are such probabilities considered the norm? But in the long run it will happen anyway. So what will we do with space?
      2. +1
        5 October 2017 19: 11
        Thank you, I’ve written everything in detail. All this is sad (
      3. 0
        7 October 2017 09: 16
        "Angara" will be. How would you not like that. But the “Rokota" - most likely will not. And yet, “Soyuz-U” is not a “classmate” of “Rokot”, and “Soyuz-2” is not a “classmate” of “Hangar A3”, which, it seems, will not be either. And the reason for the small number of PNs for Proton is not Musk, but a series of accidents and problems in the Russian cosmonautics.
      4. 0
        7 October 2017 21: 00
        Well, you just need to see when the rent of Baikonur ends is not so simple. It’s easy to secure in the future who will come after Nazarbayev and who does not know, the federation will also fly a new ship from a new cosmodrome
      5. +1
        22 October 2017 23: 38
        Existing rockets continued to be used for normal rocket work: A1 capabilities are Dnipro, Rokot, Soyuz-U, A3 is Soyuz-2 and Zenit, A5 is Proton, and A7 are loads of such no.


        LV Dnepr - conversion P36 - is not produced, and therefore reckon on it in the future is stupid.
        Rokot LV - conversion UR-100N UTTX - is not produced, and therefore it is foolish to count on it in the future.
        The Zenit launch vehicle - manufactured in Ukraine - is not manufactured, and therefore it is foolish to count on it in the future.

        The Soyuz-U launch vehicle has a tonnage of 300 to 318 tons. Hangar A1 - 146 tons. If you think that throwing an equal load on them is justified - your business.

        But, in my opinion, in the light class, the LVs you brought are not an alternative to A1.

        Well, you, of course, “forgot” that the Angara is a modular system, unlike the Union and Proton.

        SeaLaunch is ready to go to sea.


        Zenit missiles for this project were manufactured in Ukraine and will no longer be produced. And the structure of the project is such that it is impossible to load any kind of rocket onto it.

        If the “Phoenix” comes out with the price of “Zenith”, then it will be three times cheaper than the “Hangar A5”, with comparable launch capabilities, if you start from the equator to SeaLaunch.


        Why all of a sudden? The entire Zenit missile system was carried out in the USSR as part of the development of Energy. Zenit is the external booster module of this rocket. Under no circumstances can a rocket newly developed, even on the basis of the Soyuz, become cheaper than a rocket received already ready. Therefore, Soyuz-5 (Phoenix) will not be the price of “Zenith”. Well, if you didn’t mean the price of the Zenit Arena stadium in St. Petersburg :) I’ll recall, just in case, that Soyuz-5 is planned not just with a new rocket, but with a new rocket using a new type of fuel - liquefied methane.

        And I remind you again - you cannot launch any rocket from the SeaLaunch platform. It is necessary to modernize the platform, and indeed fundamentally change the logistics of the project, in particular, transfer the production of missiles as close as possible to the place where the ships are based.

        The project of the Kazakh-Russian cosmodrome "Baiterek" moved dead as soon as they ceased to inhale Kazkosmosu-RN "Angara", replacing it with the "Phoenix"


        That is, when instead of a finished rocket they were offered projectwhich, at best, will begin with design in 2018. :) That's where there is much less space and much more "something else" :)

        Only a ram will abandon the status of a cosmic power, for the sake of pleasure it is to jump

        Well, firstly, Kazakhstan does not participate in cooperation in the development and production of rockets and satellites, but only has a spaceport left over from the USSR. You can call it a space power with a stretch, in Guiana there is also a cosmodrome, Guiana is a space power?
        And the same Ukrainians gladly galloped the status of a space power, how are we or the people of Kazakhstan better than the people of Ukraine?

        And the Energy launch complexes that you showed are certainly a pity, but is it possible to use them to launch other missiles? Yes, and "jumped" in the 90s are completely different defective than the one with the trampoline.
      6. 0
        25 February 2018 23: 34
        Quote: opus
        The Proton launch vehicle is now without work (due to Elon Mask)


        And what kind of contracts did Mask take away from Roscosmos? Really to launch American spy satellites ?!

        Is it okay that every launch of the Mask is subsidized by the state for $ 100 + millions, and all the stories about low prices are just lies?

        Oh, these sectarians from the Church of the Witnesses of St. Elon Mask. Though ssy in the eye - all God's dew.
    3. 0
      6 October 2017 23: 27
      Vostochny Cosmodrome is being built taking into account modern tactical and technical requirements not only for launch vehicles, but also for the entire range of equipment used. this is the future science city, a kind of cosmic Skolkovo. only the first part of the work has been completed so far. The Soyuz launch complex is the most modern to date, compared to similar ones available at Baikonur and Plesetsk. This spaceport is needed, work is being carried out as planned, Rogozin personally controls the progress of their implementation.
  5. ksp
    +4
    5 October 2017 08: 43
    In general, the statistics of Russian launches in the current 2017 looks good. Domestic carriers account for a significant share of launches, and in addition, they maintain a leading position in global statistics

    After this statement, you can no longer read.
    Well, the author was too shy to upload statistics?
  6. +1
    5 October 2017 09: 19
    7 cameramian launches and 130 lemons turnover. The author has problems with math. Russia does not have launch vehicles with a launch cost of less than 20 green lemons, no. In reality, the turnover is more than half a billion green.
    1. 0
      5 October 2017 12: 56
      Proton late fees can be large
  7. +3
    5 October 2017 09: 40
    Although the Protons began to fly again. And then the intrigue of the competition almost disappeared. Space X began to crush everyone in the bud ...
    1. +2
      5 October 2017 11: 43
      voyaka uh Today, 09: 40
      Space X began to crush everyone in the bud ...

      and he already crushes everyone at the cost. Though with Protons, even without
    2. 0
      25 February 2018 23: 26
      Who and where does the Space X crush?

      Each "commercial" Falcon launch is subsidized by the US government for at least $ 100 million. And even for all $ 200.

      Most of the "commercial" orders come from military and evil contractors, so again the state pays.
  8. +2
    5 October 2017 11: 53
    And where are the Angara guys?) Something isn’t a word in the article))) Proton is good, but where is the weight? the USA has an Atlas and a Falcon9 Competitor in the light segment, a heavy delta under 30 tons, soon trucks from Mask for a 50 tons heavy Falcon, SLS for 130 tons are on their way. where is the hangar that you saw for 15 years? where are the strands? Korolev over such successes Ros Cosmos would laugh with sorrow laughing
    1. 0
      5 October 2017 12: 57
      You have some strange data.
      Falcon-9 up to 22,8 tons.
      Falcon Heavy to 63,8 tons
    2. +2
      5 October 2017 15: 13
      Traction for orbital vehicles is not needed. What to raise?
      1. +1
        6 October 2017 23: 32
        Correctly. launches are made for a very specific purpose. Today's Russian carriers are doing quite well.
    3. +1
      7 October 2017 09: 20
      "Proton-M" and "Hangar A5" just belong to the heavy class. SLS is not there yet and when the horseradish really flies knows.
      Korolev in the conditions of the 90s - 2010s would not do anything. Times are not the same, and people are different, "for thanks" will not work.
  9. +3
    5 October 2017 20: 31
    Of course, it’s good that the space industry is recovering.
    But our results are still far away. In 1988, only our first department launched 36 Unions, manned and military, from the first and thirty-first sites of Baikonur.
    And in 1988, about 80 spacecraft were launched from Plesetsk and Baikonur.
    2017 - 19 launches at both landfills.
    1. +2
      6 October 2017 23: 43
      Our space industry is recovering in the same way as our entire economy, as we learn from the media. and further. as in Vysotsky’s song: “Well, the reality of that is worse ...” The equipment of launch complexes is aging morally and technically. In Soviet times, there were already a number of problems with spare parts, operational troubleshooting. "Crafts" literally lived on the sites. Today you can’t get some subcontractors: “there are no others, others are already far ..” In 1980, the combat crew of our unit made 2-3 launches a month on their own, and now for each launch the combat crew consists of several units and such launches 3 -4 per year. Probably then the tasks and opportunities were different, and money too.
    2. 0
      7 October 2017 09: 22
      Is there something to run? Maybe there are no starts because there is no PN?
  10. 0
    7 October 2017 08: 55
    "... and they are celebrating the anniversary of the Sputnik-1 flight with good results in the field of launch vehicles ..."
    Something "Angara" again pushing ...
    In general, the principle of "Chubais-nano" so well repeated in the "East". In space, as in any other industry, there is a killing of specialists by managers and officials who do not give a damn about the future. The main thing is to fill your pockets, share with your bosses, and remember law enforcement agencies and controllers from lawmakers.
    1. 0
      7 October 2017 09: 22
      “Angara” will take its toll, work on it is quite active.
  11. 0
    7 October 2017 09: 26
    But Proton Light and Proton Medium will not. There will be another "light" "Proton".
  12. 0
    7 October 2017 14: 54
    Quote: Cannonball
    “Angara” will take its toll, work on it is quite active.

    For 10 years they have been talking about the Angara as a dead end development, but do you hope that the work is going on actively? It could be in demand for what it was originally created for. That is, for the needs of Moscow Region. But not for commercial flights. Other payloads will be needed there, which the Angara will not be able to achieve. Otherwise, work on the same Soyuz-5 would not have started

    Quote: Cannonball
    Is there something to run? Maybe there are no starts because there is no PN?

    There is. But if you require for the load, for example, $ 80 million, and your competitor requires 40 (for example), then who will you choose? In addition, the accident and the subsequent cancellation of launches did not affect our entire program positively.

    You are still in second place in terms of the number of running devices. It seems that we will stay on it, but in a year we may have 23 launches, and our overseas competitors - 37 (minimum). The Chinese will come out on 15 (approximately launches). Moreover, all heavy loads will be removed not by our missiles
    1. +1
      7 October 2017 21: 14
      I don’t hope I see it every day. Work is in full swing. What kind of PN she will have is not for me to decide. The main thing is what will happen. And to "Soyuz-5" still need to live.
      We do not require anything, we are not launch service providers, so we do not set launch prices. And as life shows, there is a demand for our products.
      Just talking about the number of starts per year is not about our honor. We have completely different tasks than participating in the notorious space races who will throw more often iron into orbit.
      1. 0
        8 October 2017 00: 46
        I don’t know where you work, but let's still be honest. In Russia, now no work is in full swing. not coming. Why? There are many reasons. If you think differently, this is your right, but in the words of the satirist Zhvanetsky: "If you think that everything is fine, you are either drunk or in proportion!"
        1. 0
          8 October 2017 11: 31
          I work where these missiles are made, so with my own eyes I see what is being done and what is just being said. And Zhvanetsky is not an authority here. Moreover, I do not say anywhere that everything is fine. But "everything is gone" is also missing.