Source MIC: UAE want to acquire more squadrons Su-35

The United Arab Emirates intends to buy more Su-35 fighter squadrons from Russia, the contract may be signed before the end of the year, a source in the military-technical cooperation system said.

They want a lot, more squadrons, but the exact number will be determined during the negotiations, which can take place in November during aviation exhibitions in Dubai

- Said the source agency.

He clarified that in case of successful completion of the negotiations the contract may be signed before the end of the year. Official confirmation of this information is not yet available.

The squadron is a tactical unit of the Air Force of the state, which includes aviation detachments, units, as well as personnel engaged in the maintenance of equipment. The number of vehicles in a squadron of fighter aviation, for example, in the Russian army, as a rule, is 12 units, but the exact number depends on the type of regiment.

Su-35 - Russian multipurpose super-maneuverable fighter 4 ++, equipped with on-board radar with a phased antenna array, as well as thrust vector-controlled engines. It can reach speeds of up to 2,5 thousand km / h, its range reaches 3,4 thousand km, the combat radius is about 1,6 thousand km. The fighter is armed with a 30 caliber mm gun and has 12 suspension points for bombs and missiles, reports TASS.

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[Shura Sailors]

In queue! Once again, I am convinced that an excellent advertising company came out to Russian weapons in Syria.

[seti]

Absolutely good news. As well as the fact that the release of new pilots for the VKS will be increased by 10 times. The main thing is not at the expense of quality. But selling for export Su-35 is definitely necessary. We have orders and workload of enterprises, plus currency for our needs, and the buyer has excellent equipment and a peaceful sky above his head.

[maxim947]

Very unexpected. It remains to wait for the contract.

[akribos]

May be. ? Maybe I will buy one.

[kapitan92]

Quote: seti

And selling the Su-35 for export is definitely necessary. We have orders and workload of enterprises plus currency for our needs, and the buyer has excellent equipment and a peaceful sky above his head.

This is of course all great! And if this is an order from the Washington Regional Committee? With China, if I’m not mistaken, the contract for 24 units

[dauria]

Official confirmation this information is not yet available.

Here we have to start with this - "one woman said."

[Gransasso]

Quote: dauria

Official confirmation this information is not yet available.

Here we have to start with this - "one woman said."

You can’t ... otherwise there’s nothing to say

[weksha50]

Quote: seti

And selling the Su-35 for export is definitely a must.

And again I have to touch and touch on the same topic: the cat wept for ourselves with these Su-35s ... But the Amers openly admit that he is able to withstand their F-16, -22 and -35 .. .

Somehow it turns out that such orders as a double-edged sword ...

[Andryukha G]

The main practice and best of all is combat.

[rapier]

Quote: Shura sailors

In queue! Once again, I am convinced that an excellent advertising company came out to Russian weapons in Syria.

This is just a message from sources in the Russian military-industrial complex, this is not a solid contract. Uncle Sam will take Arab sheikhs for a scruff and shake them well. Now is not the 90s when Russia was able to sell the BMP-3.

[weksha50]

Quote: rapier

this is not a solid contract. Uncle Sam will take the neck of the Arab sheikhs and shake them lightly.

If you count how much news there was in the past six months or a year about allegedly large orders-contracts of Arabs for our military equipment, the most up-to-date ... But then somehow the waves subsided, turned into calm, and the contracts turned into mirages .. .

[SRC P-15]

That's what Syria life-giving does!

[Bourbon]

want? - need to sell or others will sell ....

[NEXUS]

Quote: Burbon

want? - need to sell or others will sell ....

Here, after all, not only the fighters themselves, but also the maintenance of these aircraft throughout the entire life cycle, and also not for free.

[weksha50]

Quote: NEXUS

Here, after all, not only the fighters themselves, but also the maintenance of these aircraft throughout the entire life cycle, and also not for free.

Andrei, sometimes it seems to me that Arabs can buy our planes for transfer to the owners in the states ... And not only planes ... And why not ???

[NEXUS]

Quote: weksha50

Andrei, sometimes it seems to me that Arabs can buy our planes for transfer to the owners in the states ...

I don’t think ... our developers, I’m sure, thought out such an outcome and made the appropriate conclusions.

Quote: weksha50

Why not ???

In addition, the terms of the contract will certainly have this clause. But in any case, we would not sell them the 35th if there were any threat of information leakage or the transfer of something secret to the adversary.

[79807420129]

Quote: Burbon

want? - need to sell or others will sell ....

Dmitry will not sell others, due to their lack of 35. But they can push their litak.

[Jedi]

Greetings

Quote: 79807420129

others will not sell, due to their lack of 35. But their litak can push

How not? But Fu doesn’t have the 35th marking (I’m not talking about the price).

[79807420129]

Quote: Jedi

Isn't that the 35th marking (I’m not talking about the price).

Damn, I forgot about this miracle of nature Probably getting old.

[Bourbon]

Quote: 79807420129

Dmitry will not sell others, due to their lack of 35

it is clear that there is no drying .... I'm talking about kladzuzuz or amers ....

[alexmach]

Yeah .. it’s probably they don’t want it, I suppose the Americans need it for training fights

[alexmach]

Yeah .. it’s probably they don’t want it, I suppose the Americans need it for training fights

[tomket]

Quote: СРЦ П-15

That's what Syria life-giving does!

In this class, either Su-35 or f-15, there is nothing more to choose from ..... Naturally, Su-35 is preferable ...

[Sharansky]

Quote: tomket

Naturally, the Su-35 is preferable ...

UAE sit tight on American planes. It is more logical to buy equipment of one standard and not repeat the deeds of the Indians. And it is not particularly visible what the Su-35 is superior to the latest modifications to the F-15. On the radar, for sure, no.

[Grandfather]

Quote: SRC P-15

That's what Syria life-giving does!

yeah ... + one more SU squadron in the states .... get sick ... from Indonesia have settled down in the usa ... go ahead!

[samoletil18]

And what? Can Americans buy a direct Su-35 in Russia? The trouble ...

[Nashensky city]

This is certainly good, but we need to upgrade our videoconferencing first

[St Petrov]

when the pepelats in the series and in production is not a problem at all.

the problem is to make the release permanent

[Nashensky city]

Moreover, not only permanent but not 20-30 pieces per year

[Grandfather]

Quote: s-t Petrov

the problem is to make the release permanent

the problem is that those on the "motorcycles" do not sell out all their potential ...

[garx]

This aircraft has no equal and will not be yet, and the F35 is all just an expensive toy. Which few people can afford in large quantities.

[Bourbon]

Quote: garx

This plane has no equal

what are you? ... and fi-22 and ef 15 ??

[garx]

Fi-22 is an invisible aircraft for weak air defense and Fu-15 is generally a tin that can only fly directly))

[Bourbon]

Quote: garx

Fi-22 is an invisible aircraft for weak air defense

Quote: garx

and fu-15 is generally a tin that can only fly directly))

...Oh well

[NEXUS]

Quote: garx

Fi-22 is an invisible aircraft for weak air defense

Well ... not everything is so bad in the mattresses of the Air Force ... the dinosaur is a very good car, albeit with diseases, but at the same time, it is geared to gaining air supremacy and this fighter is very dangerous against any fighter. Do not be fooled, mattresses able to create wonderful fighters.

Quote: garx

and fu-15 is generally a tin that can only fly directly))

Hmm ... f-15 in the latest modification is a very good fighter and, most importantly, relatively the same 22s, cheap and plentiful.

[voyaka uh]

Emirates - sponsor of opposition in Syria. Moderate Islamists from Homs, Hama.
Su-35 will fight in Syria with the MiG-29. I wonder who-who?

[Bourbon]

Quote: voyaka uh

Su-35 will fight in Syria with the MiG-29. I wonder who-who?

and after 5-7 years with fi-36 and fi-15 Jewish ... I wonder who who?

[voyaka uh]

Not interested. With pilots like them ... even
intrigue is not expected.

[LAWNER]

The intrigue will be .....
Su35 delivery time 6 years. Place of delivery - zone 51

[just exp]

so yes, if you consider that the pilots will be Arabs, at least the Su-35, at least the F-22, at least the Su-7, the result will be the same.

[samoletil18]

Nefiga is not the same. Su-7 will win. There are fewer lotions that you need to deal with for a long time.

[Bourbon]

Quote: voyaka uh

With such pilots

you answered your first post !!!

[novel66]

here, in the very boobs! there are no decent pilots - and there is no need for airplanes!

[seti]

Quote: voyaka uh

Emirates - sponsor of opposition in Syria. Moderate Islamists from Homs, Hama.
Su-35 will fight in Syria with the MiG-29. I wonder who-who?

Are you worried about your beloved ...? They say that the Arabs will finish the bickering among themselves for you? And F-35 will not help .. Or maybe you need it.

[voyaka uh]

Emirates? These lazy people will not take up ...
I even doubt that these Su- they at least once in the air rise.
They will put it in front of the palace (inside) for the sheikhs selfie.
----
Rather, it is a bribe of (indirect) Russia for its position in Syria

[just exp]

on the whole I agree, but I think this is not a bribe in Syria, it's like an apology.
that is, they buy to be forgiven.

[d ^ Amir]

Rather, it is a bribe of (indirect) Russia for its position in Syria

a very, very possible option ....

[SRC P-15]

Quote: voyaka uh

Su-35 will fight in Syria with the MiG-29. I wonder who-who?

Islamists will fight in hysteria, not Su-35 with MiG-29!

[voyaka uh]

The United Arab Emirates are just the Islamists. Moderate
but still ... And why will they fight in hysteria?
Their main adversary is Iran. And the main ally is Saudia.
So, perhaps, these Su-35s will be together with our F-35s - wing to wing -
iron the military bases of Iran.

[Stas157]

Quote: voyaka uh

these Su-35s will be together with our F-35s - wing to wing -
iron the military bases of Iran.

Until the Iranian S-300 complex suddenly breaks your fantasies.

[voyaka uh]

This is true ... S-300 can bring down the Su-35 with its 2-5 m2 EPR

[novel66]

but who knows what he can - there hasn’t been any combat use yet

[d ^ Amir]

Good day!!!! no one .... everyone in Nevada will go to the "Aggressors" .... this is if they are sold ...

[NEXUS]

Quote: d ^ Amir

Good day!!!! no one .... everyone in Nevada will go to the "Aggressors" .... this is if they are sold ...

I don’t think ... well, firstly, the export SU-35 will probably be truncated by performance characteristics ... and secondly, they are unlikely to go to Nevada, but most likely there will be joint exercises with elements of developing air strategies against our vehicles.

[d ^ Amir]

will definitely go as soon as the opportunity arises !!!!!! and she (opportunity) will appear and she will not be missed !!!! it’s necessary to train the pilots ..... they didn’t have more or less modern equipment there in Nevada ... only recently the Su-27 crashed ....

[gukoyan]

Ehhh, well, as always with a bare booty)

[NEXUS]

Quote: gukoyan

Ehhh, well, as always with a bare booty)

Why is that?

The aerospace forces of Russia in 2017 will be strengthened by the ten latest generation 4 ++ Su-35S fighters. This was announced by Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Yuri Borisov during a visit to the Gagarin Aviation Plant in Komsomolsk-on-Amur.

According to Borisov, in 2017, ten Su-35S fighters will be handed over to the Ministry of Defense, and four more Su-27s will be upgraded to the appearance of the Su-35.

And until 2020, under the second contract, only the SU-35S number will be 96 vehicles ...

[mann-mann]

And then you will dismantle it with screws!

[Dezinto]

By the way. Why not F35? from a developed and so awesomely tech USA. Where did you even come up with an entire iPhone and Windows !? Why do they want to buy planes in backward and decaying Russia? ? ?

[just exp]

no one promised the F-35 Arabs, maximum F-15.

[_Ugene_]

Well, they said it was blackmail by the United States to buy the F-35

[Gransasso]

Another stuffing as about 300 Terminators who are no longer needed, allegedly to Algeria ...

[rpek32]

for the UAE f-35 laid

[Alexander War]

We need our VKS to bring the number of Su-35S to the level of how many F-22 in the USA

[Muvka]

What for? For what? Do you think that after the exchange of nuclear warheads there will be something to defend and what to attack?

[Alexander War]

No one has yet to attack each other with nuclear strikes! Now wars go on in other theaters of operations - an example is the Vietnam War

[Corsair0304]

Sell ​​in such a way that from the sale of one Su-35 Emirates to our VKS did the same. Then it is advisable.
And yes. Undoubtedly, the moment of the complete absence of emirate fighter jets in the sky of Syria will be discussed.

[Pilat2009]

Quote: voyaka uh

Su-35 will fight in Syria with the MiG-29. I wonder who-who?

They won’t. Where is the Air Force opposition now? Yes, and the sky is covered. Yes, and airfields and spare parts are required.

[Kasym]

This money will be enough for the F-35, but they take the Su-35. Why?
Could it be reinsured that the States may not sell their stealth? But there is an F-15 with AFAR and all affairs - maybe it will not be sold !? Or maybe they want to earn points in front of the Russian Federation, the Yankees can throw at any time (or maybe they already made it clear to something)?
Although it must be said, among the Arabian Arabs, the UAE was an “innovator” in these matters. The shell and BMP-3 were created with their money. They became their first customers. Maybe Syria showed them something? And if ordered, they will definitely require a complete "mincemeat". But these are also different weapons, missiles in-in, for example, a missile defense for another AP, service and pilots.
Trump is now definitely rushing to dissuade. Judging by how he lobbies his defense industry.

[LAWNER]

F35 are really hardly noticeable, but with radars operating on the Doppler effect, our fighters changing speed on turns to Zero become the same invisible ... But their price varies greatly to decency.

[voyaka uh]

"on turns to Zero become the same invisible" ///
----
Of course not. Fixed objects split just like
and moving. F-35s see and attack stationary objects, which are on the ground, in the air playfully.

[just exp]

the purchase of weapons is a sign of belonging to a political camp.
Qatar was the first to officially break loose, and so that its states would not strangle them, they would conclude a contract for fighters, this is about the same topic, the UAE does not want the Russian Federation to consider them enemies, and therefore conclude a contract for weapons.
that is, they themselves stupidly lay straws so that if something happens it would not be so painful to fall.

[voyaka uh]

Enough for the F-35, but they take the Su-35. Why?
-----
1) On the F-35 turn for many years to come. The conveyor is overloaded.
Even when they reach the maximum 20 per month, everything is clogged.
2) There is a list of countries that are allowed to export F-35. Emirates
they are (not yet) inscribed.

[Kasym]

Warrior, I won’t believe that the UAE is in a hurry somewhere. Moreover, the main ally (SA) has a good air force fleet. And even more so because two airfields lease the United States + fleet with arms depots in the UAE. It will be necessary to lease planes from the United States or from the EU, for example Rafal to order if it’s on fire.
That's just the point, that the USA has a "list" on a ranking. So they are afraid that NATO will throw. Qatar is already ready for the axis of evil - yesterday they went only in kents, and Trump al-Thani was on a visit !?
I wonder why the UAE is not on the list? They just won’t be able to copy, they’ll be afraid to transmit. Who could influence such a decision?

[Nemesis]

Bad news. From the UAE, the Su-35 will fall directly into the hands of the United States.

[Kasym]

I don’t think there will be Russian equipment - these will be asked by the French to stuff.
States except for the "flyby", but for training fights will take. Although this can be prescribed in the contract, but they will try to cheat, cut off spare parts and services.
Yes, and the Su-57 is on the way (it and, for example, the S-500 are forbidden to sell), so they are selling the Su-35.

[Nemesis]

The Yankees will be able to study in detail the flight characteristics of the Su-35, regardless of what stuffing it stuffs with

[Kasym]

Su-27 recently crashed in the States. They know a lot. But OVT may interest them
So therefore you sell that the Su-57 is on the way.

[Nemesis]

Su-27 is not Su-35, Su-35 has a different glider and flight characteristics are different

[Kasym]

The weight is increased, so the glider is changed - the wing area is increased, the composite in some places. Therefore, it did not significantly affect the performance characteristics. OVT and its design are another matter - there may be interest.

[Nemesis]

That is, that the weight has been increased and the aircraft is almost new, similar to the Su-27 only visually. Therefore, the United States needs it today to prepare its pilots for the war against the Russian Federation.

[Kasym]

From physics. The lifting force is directly proportional to the wing area. Therefore, the wing is increased to keep the TTX at the same level with increasing weight. MiG-35, the same story. The time for a complete turn remains the same. Improved aircraft control system software.
The effect on maneuverability is provided by the engine with OBT.

[Nemesis]

So the United States will get its hands on the Su-35, with a new engine and glider for training its pilots in combat with the Russian Air Force

[Kasym]

Su-57 is on the way.
We argue about nothing. They wanted to sneeze for maneuverability, judging by the F-35. They rely on electronics, their AFAR, and rockets. They think that close maneuver combat will be avoided. But in vain.
I see another splinter. They have NATO weapons on fighter jets. Therefore, they will require the installation of appropriate equipment. Will the NATO people do this by selling their equipment (sights and other avionics)?
If they were interested in Russian weapons, namely, long-range missiles of the armed forces, class X or anti-ship missiles, would the Russian Federation go for their sale? Will the Irbis be sold fully loaded - give the Arabs the full stuffing ?!
It’s for this, and not flight characteristics, that you need to worry about.

[Nemesis]

There is no point in talking about the Su-57, they are not in the VKS and it is not known when they will be in significant numbers, and one Su-57 squadron will not make the weather ... The maneuverability of the Su-35 interests the United States in terms of its ability to perform missile defense.

[mashinist]

Everything is good only to close relatives’s bookmarks in the schematics by shoveling, so if birds got into the case, they would probably want to have equipment from different countries so that in case of confrontation with some you can protect yourself with equipment received from the other side

[44Serega44]

This is all wonderful, and it will be cheaper for us, etc., but only this squadron, half a year after the transfer, will be at the ov, and there they will replicate aerial battles with our flying squirrels, which is good, since all the characteristics and equipment will be known for striped nerds.

[Pecheneg]

Is it worth it to sell to Arabs, mattress covers?

[novel66]

in-in! Fuck your enemies! "

[valent45]

Perhaps we should still postpone the sale of the SU-35.
Doubtful buyers, again the United States (technology, copying).
As Vysotsky sang: "... time, time - the morning is wiser."

[killganoff]

Why is the Mig-29k pictured?

[kubanec]

pictured su-35

[Nikolai Petrov]

The deal is certainly not bad. But why do camelopods need such aircraft? With sabers in a circle one after another ran and enough.

[novel66]

not for camel dangers, but for camel lovers

[XXXIII]

They want a lot

Turkey means the S-400 can not be sold, but the UAE can sell the su-35 ?! Much is possible, little is impossible, not to understand mother Russia .....

[Ugolek]

It would be much more interesting to know the quantity, how much more is the squadron, 1,5 ?? What minimum would they like to take if this news is certainly not a dummy?

[XXXIII]

I don’t know where this news is from, they want to take a lot. I think if the contract is big they won’t say much about it. Since the United States, "Trump" also sells them a lot, the UAE will not want to spoil relations with the United States.

[Egorovich]

In the emirates, the Wishlist has always been widely disclosed, but will there be a result? This grandmother said in two.

[Zaurbek]

The UAE has access to many technologies ... it’s also possible to supply import AFAR radars and aiming containers .... Although for long-distance missions, it seems to me better than the Su-30SM. There are two pilots.

[Vlad5307]

Quote: Egorovich

In the emirates, the Wishlist has always been widely disclosed, but will there be a result? This grandmother said in two.

Their Wishlist sometimes "partners" easily roam. So let's see if "one grandmother said" correctly about a big contract.

[Berkut24]

The last questions to weapons disappear at the moment when enemies begin to buy it.

[turcom]

Then to safely transfer to the United States for a detailed study. Americans are ready to do anything to get a sample.

[Guru]

But is it not a banal desire to load our enterprises for export, thereby minimizing supplies to our own aerospace forces? Thus, to suspend the rearmament of the Russian army for a year and a half.

[Gransasso]

Quote: Guru

But is it not a banal desire to load our enterprises for export, thereby minimizing supplies to our own aerospace forces? Thus, to suspend the rearmament of the Russian army for a year and a half.

Calm down ...... it's just a stuffing .... the world government and the pest spies are not necessary ...

[brr1]

Once again I am convinced that "leasing" is a special approach to the winner