The Ministry of Defense commented on the statements of Kiev about the Russian troops in Belarus

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The Russian Ministry of Defense has refuted statements by the head of the General Staff of Ukraine that Russia did not withdraw its troops from the territory of Belarus after the Zapad-2017 exercises.

Earlier, the head of the Ukrainian General Staff, Victor Muzhenko, claimed in an interview with Reuters that Russia had left most of the units that had participated in West-2017 in Belarus.



As stated by the Ministry of Defense, all units of the Russian troops that took part in the exercises returned to the points of permanent deployment.

The Ministry of Defense commented on the statements of Kiev about the Russian troops in Belarus


According to the official representative of the military department, Igor Konashenkov, the allegations of the Russian troops "hidden" in Belarus demonstrate "the full depth of the degradation of the General Staff of Ukraine and the incompetence of its leader."

Absolute non-possession of the operational situation at a distance of hundreds of kilometers from the capital of their own country and fantasies about the number of troops there are the reason for the immediate dismissal of such a Chief of General Staff
- noted Konashenkov.

He added that if this is the result of the transition of the Ukrainian armed forces to NATO standards, then such a Ukrainian army could be "a direct and obvious threat" to the North Atlantic alliance.

The fact that in Belarus after the exercise may remain part of the Russian contingent, in the Ukrainian General Staff stated before the start of the "West-2017". And the teachings themselves in the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense called only "conditionally open." Concerns about the lack of openness were also expressed in NATO - despite the fact that about hundreds of foreign military attaches were watching the maneuvers.

A spokesman for the Russian president, Dmitry Peskov, rejected accusations of “insufficient openness” and called provocation “heightening passions” around “West-2017,” reports RIA News.
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    1. +16
      30 September 2017 15: 03
      Konashenkov handsome! Said it suddenly and bluntly.
      He also recommended the dismissal of the commander of another country. TrollIT ...
      1. +3
        30 September 2017 15: 09
        What to expect from hohlopetušatnik? Only crow ..
        Quote: Logall
        Konashenkov handsome! Said it suddenly and bluntly.
        He also recommended the dismissal of the commander of another country. TrollIT ...
        1. +4
          30 September 2017 15: 31
          I’m watching the old KVN today, and there Poroshenko smile

          Well, on the topic:
          On Thursday morning, I saw how the last train with Russian equipment was leaving. 28.09.17/XNUMX/XNUMX
          1. +2
            30 September 2017 19: 22
            I do not understand why they argue with patients of psychiatry refuting their arguments? What's the point of this? request
            1. +1
              30 September 2017 19: 36
              Quote: elektroleg
              I do not understand why they argue with patients of psychiatry refuting their arguments? What's the point of this? request


              As Konashenkov answered, it’s definitely not a dispute, but a normal and well-deserved trolling
      2. +9
        30 September 2017 15: 11
        Hi Sasha! Here, rather, the place is not trolling, but a medical report.
        1. +14
          30 September 2017 15: 22
          Hi, Max! With the star of you! I envy bully
          They do not listen to diagnoses from abroad! But there are no diagnosticians.
          As someone already wrote (maybe even Volodya) - `` the Ukrainian government is a free zone for psychiatrists ''
          1. +10
            30 September 2017 15: 29
            Quote: Logall
            With the star of you! I envy

            Thank! Type pricked? wink Someone already has a second one, so I have something to strive for. Yes
            Quote: Logall
            As someone already wrote (maybe even Volodya) - `` the Ukrainian government is a free zone for psychiatrists ''

            Recently, in a political show, one activist about Ukraine said: "This is a platform for walking the insane."
      3. +5
        30 September 2017 15: 18
        Quote: Logall
        Konashenkov handsome! Said it suddenly and bluntly.

        Sanya, not quite beautiful! He revealed a military secret. feel
        if this is the result of the transition of the Ukrainian armed forces to NATO standards, then such a Ukrainian army may be a "direct and clear threat" to the North Atlantic Alliance itself.

        Now, NATO will wrinkle its forehead, immediately the NATO Khan will be, if Ukraine is accepted or later. Damn, the evil eye. fellow
        1. +14
          30 September 2017 15: 42
          Volodya, someone's tricky plan again?
    2. +2
      30 September 2017 19: 05
      In general, this is our business where to deploy our troops. We want on Sakhalin, we want in Alaska. And they should not ask anyone, neither Fashington, nor even Hohland. And if they have untreated diarrhea, this is their problem.
      1. +4
        30 September 2017 19: 28
        Quote: papas-57
        In general, this is our business where to deploy our troops. We want on Sakhalin, we want in Alaska. And they should not ask anyone, neither Fashington, nor even Hohland. And if they have untreated diarrhea, this is their problem.


        Absolutely correct. If you wanted to leave the troops in Belarus, then this applies only to two countries - the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus. And no one else has the right to poke their nose into these matters. And then we always explain something, we justify ourselves before someone. And there should be only one conversation with them all - go to x ..!
  2. +10
    30 September 2017 14: 55
    Who knows what is really going on there ...
    1. +9
      30 September 2017 14: 58
      So Muzhelozhenko knows for sure, he himself said, no one stabbed him!
    2. +6
      30 September 2017 15: 00
      Quote: not the one
      Who knows what is really going on there ...

      Well yes. Not everything is so simple! wassat
    3. +10
      30 September 2017 15: 01
      Quote: not the one
      Who knows what is really going on there ...

      And what side to what is being done on our land, Kiev, the Poles, the Czechs and the whole of NATO in full force? If your imbibil neighbor starts to indicate what you should do in your apartment, will you justify yourself and listen to him or will you impose a Russian vegetable on him and send him to Yelopukki?
      1. +12
        30 September 2017 15: 04
        This is not our land - there people will figure it out without me. My land between the Yaik and the Samara rivers, a stranger is not necessary ...
        1. +16
          30 September 2017 15: 06
          Quote: not the one
          This is not our land - there people will figure it out without me. My land between the Yaik and the Samara rivers, a stranger is not necessary ...

          No, dear, the whole earth is SMALL, WHITE AND GREAT RUSSIA-OUR LAND. And what you scratched here is called just-my hut from the edge ...
          Learn history and do not write such nonsense anymore.
          1. +15
            30 September 2017 15: 17
            I subscribe to your words! drinks And I advise you to look at any "wrong topics":
          2. +10
            30 September 2017 15: 19
            We wrote history with our blood, the Cossacks of the Rite of the Old, as long as you stood aside. If it weren’t for us, you would have been huddling around your mask, so I don’t need history now, I beg ... wink
            1. +11
              30 September 2017 15: 22
              Quote: not the one
              We wrote history with our blood, the Cossacks of the Rite of the Old, as long as you stood aside. If it weren’t for us, you would have been huddling around your mask, so I don’t need history now, I beg ...

              What are you saying? I am Nizhny Novgorod. Remind you of Minin and Pozharsky? Or maybe a resident of the Urals or Siberia will remind you how their industry and regiments near Moscow broke the Reich ridge? There are no exceptional ones in Russia. And in the same Ukraine or Belarus there is something to answer you. So for the story I don’t have to broadcast here, dear.
            2. +9
              30 September 2017 15: 27
              Did not try to be treated?
            3. +9
              30 September 2017 15: 53
              Not the same sir would have learned to write the name of the capital of Russia correctly, and to the question of "ours," is the capital of Russia for you, a stranger? ?? am You have a good Russian name -Vanya, but bad thoughts that you transform into the same words !!! sad
        2. +12
          30 September 2017 15: 06
          Quote: not the one
          This is not our land - there people will figure it out without me. My land between the Yaik and the Samara rivers, a stranger is not necessary ...

          And what about those Russians who were born and live in the Republic of Belarus? And why should Kyiv and Warsaw understand this?
          1. +13
            30 September 2017 15: 16
            Quote: Pirogov
            And what about those Russians who were born and live in the Republic of Belarus?

            BeloRus are also Russian, like little dew ... these three peoples are the backbone of the Russian (Slavic) world. So when these three nations reunite in one state, then Russia will become truly invincible.
            1. +8
              30 September 2017 15: 42
              It is already good that even though we (these three peoples) are disconnected, we are still united by our spirituality and worldview. Well, the boundaries between us are not eternal. We have the same enemies and we have nowhere to go from each other, just stick together.
        3. +9
          30 September 2017 15: 23
          Quote: not the one
          This is not our land - there people will figure it out without me. My land between the Yaik and the Samara rivers, a stranger is not necessary ...

          You, let's not confuse "ours" and "mine", these are different things. Separatyu shtetl. And, by the way, did he buy some strawberry between the Urals and Samara by rivers, or appropriated it by explicit order? They came here from the village of Krasnoye invaders from near Voronezh!
          1. +11
            30 September 2017 16: 00
            I didn’t buy it, so I took it. Have you come, is it you about us? You know whom you remind-And not a tiger at all, see below laughing laughing laughing
        4. +15
          30 September 2017 15: 45
          Quote: not the one
          My land between the Yaika and Samara rivers, a stranger is not necessary

          Alex, Alex, Alex laughing Samara flows into the Volga. feel A stranger is not necessary for you, but they do not offer a stranger to you, for Yaik speak foreign land. what But the Cossacks at one time went there in the name of God and Russia, didn’t spare their bellies, Ermak, Khabarov, Semyon Dezhnev and many others, that someone else’s land is speaking? Are you drowning for Ukrainians and their president, type brothers, and what Belarusians are for you they’re not brothers? They are real brothers to me, brothers from Donetsk and Lugansk, and not those who spit on their own history, don’t remember my kindred relationships, they’re definitely not brothers.
  3. +8
    30 September 2017 14: 57
    The Russian Ministry of Defense has denied statements by the head of the General Staff of Ukraine that Russia did not withdraw its troops from the territory of Belarus after the West-2017 exercises

    Again we make excuses ... Poland, now Kiev ... When will our Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Ministry of Defense get tired of making excuses to a handful of politicians with low social responsibility?
    1. +5
      30 September 2017 15: 03
      Quote: NEXUS
      Again we make excuses ... Poland, now Kiev ... When will our Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Ministry of Defense get tired of making excuses to a handful of politicians with low social responsibility?

      I agree with whom to make excuses, how to react to the cries of a madman.
  4. +5
    30 September 2017 14: 58
    The arithmetic is simple: they introduced 100000, brought 12000. Where are the remaining 78000? Surely, in a haystack they calmed down! The evil are plotting. But Muzhenko can’t be fooled by the chaff! Seven feet under the keel sees!
    1. +6
      30 September 2017 15: 13
      Quote: Vasyan1971
      Seven feet under the keel sees!

      He must be dragged under this keel. Or the eyes of one who knows where to look, but to whom to bow.
      1. +5
        30 September 2017 15: 49
        Quote: Abigor
        He must be dragged under this keel.

        Where is the turn to borrow?
  5. +4
    30 September 2017 15: 25
    Why answer the ravings of Kiev. It’s better to be silent, and let them suffer, say that RUSSIA is silent. soldier
  6. BVS
    +2
    30 September 2017 15: 32
    Quote: NEXUS
    Quote: Pirogov
    And what about those Russians who were born and live in the Republic of Belarus?

    BeloRus are also Russian, like little dew ... these three peoples are the backbone of the Russian (Slavic) world. So when these three nations reunite in one state, then Russia will become truly invincible.

    A strange conclusion is to unite BeloRusy, Russians and Little Dew, and then Russia will become truly invincible. That is, in your opinion, BeloRusy and MaloRosa should be included in Russia? But is it evenly impossible?
    1. +6
      30 September 2017 15: 35
      Quote: bvs
      But is it evenly impossible?

      Does it bother you that all three states will be called Russia? Historically, these lands were called the land of the Rus, and later Russia. It is important that these three kindred peoples must be TOGETHER, and therefore the state must be one for them.
  7. BVS
    +1
    30 September 2017 15: 46
    Quote: NEXUS
    Quote: bvs
    But is it evenly impossible?

    Does it bother you that all three states will be called Russia? Historically, these lands were called the land of the Rus, and later Russia. It is important that these three kindred peoples must be TOGETHER, and therefore the state must be one for them.

    Regarding the fact that there is no objection to what is called Russia, either. But I asked another question - will the Ukrainians (with their territory) and the Belarusians (with their territory) become part of Russia or will they unite with Russia? This is a big difference. The population of Ukraine is 45 million people, this is a third of the population of Russia, and even the population of Belarus is 10 million people. Or do you offer them the status of Chechnya (1,4 million people) or Tatarstan (4 million people)?
    1. +3
      30 September 2017 16: 19
      Quote: bvs
      The population of Ukraine is 45 million people, this is a third of the population of Russia, and even the population of Belarus is 10 million people. Or do you offer them the status of Chechnya (1,4 million people) or Tatarstan (4 million people)?

      I do not propose anything, because I am not the president. But if you look at the history of these lands, then most of the history, these lands were part of Russia, and were Russian land, and not some kind of subjects. I’m talking about the unification of the three states within Russia. And then it will be called, the Belarusian Republic or Ukrainian are the details.
  8. 0
    30 September 2017 18: 45
    And what phallus, si zhenerali then soar about foreign troops in a foreign country))))) Muzhenko, send to the convoy, driver goldsmith.
  9. 0
    30 September 2017 19: 22
    Even if there were some units left, then with the consent of the Belarusians this is not their pig business, let the warehouses set fire to them. They do it well. tongue
  10. BVS
    +1
    30 September 2017 19: 37
    Quote: NEXUS
    Quote: bvs
    The population of Ukraine is 45 million people, this is a third of the population of Russia, and even the population of Belarus is 10 million people. Or do you offer them the status of Chechnya (1,4 million people) or Tatarstan (4 million people)?

    I do not propose anything, because I am not the president. But if you look at the history of these lands, then most of the history, these lands were part of Russia, and were Russian land, and not some kind of subjects. I’m talking about the unification of the three states within Russia. And then it will be called, the Belarusian Republic or Ukrainian are the details.

    You have a firm opinion - “as part of Russia”, and not the union of three sovereign states (at present it is). But there are opinions that do not coincide with yours. Life will put everything in its place.
    1. +2
      1 October 2017 00: 31
      Quote: bvs
      You have a firm opinion - "as part of Russia"

      Yes exactly..
      Quote: bvs
      not a union of three sovereign states

      Look at Ukraine, open your eyes. Where did you see sovereignty there? Take Belarus ... do you think that there is sovereignty there? I will probably surprise you greatly, but ... sovereignty cannot be selective, or only in one thing, with respect to the state. The state is either independent in everything or not. And sovereignty implies such concepts as the ability to protect oneself, feed, drink, dress, put on shoes, give their citizens education and medicine (on their own), energy independence, and much more that the state should do and provide for itself. And now the question is -Ukraine or Belarus, given these requirements, are sovereign? Ukraine has already shown how sovereign it is alone ... do you think that without Russia, Belarus would not suffer the same fate?
      In the world, states that are truly sovereign units. And Russia is among them. And Ukraine and Belarus without the support and protection of Russia are not sovereign, from the word at all, however, like all the other former republics of the USSR.
  11. +1
    30 September 2017 19: 41
    They want to bend Old Man to give a ride around the Republic of Belarus to see what the Russian Federation left there (rats), they won’t find it. Bastards want to come from far away. To send to send further ... angry
  12. 0
    30 September 2017 20: 43
    Quote: Pirogov
    Quote: not the one
    This is not our land - there people will figure it out without me. My land between the Yaik and the Samara rivers, a stranger is not necessary ...

    And what about those Russians who were born and live in the Republic of Belarus? And why should Kyiv and Warsaw understand this?

    And just live wink wink wink Our official languages ​​are Belarusian and Russian (or Russian and Belarusian). I am a Belarusian, my wife is Ukrainian, one daughter was born in Ukraine, the second on Novaya Zemlya (Russia). The Ukrainian woman has a Russian husband (Russian, as they say now). At the new land - Belarus. And how to count grandchildren ... exactly the number ... wink Therefore, all greetings to all the Slavs drinks
  13. +1
    30 September 2017 20: 54
    Quote: bvs
    Quote: NEXUS
    Quote: bvs
    But is it evenly impossible?

    Does it bother you that all three states will be called Russia? Historically, these lands were called the land of the Rus, and later Russia. It is important that these three kindred peoples must be TOGETHER, and therefore the state must be one for them.

    Regarding the fact that there is no objection to what is called Russia, either. But I asked another question - will the Ukrainians (with their territory) and the Belarusians (with their territory) become part of Russia or will they unite with Russia? This is a big difference. The population of Ukraine is 45 million people, this is a third of the population of Russia, and even the population of Belarus is 10 million people. Or do you offer them the status of Chechnya (1,4 million people) or Tatarstan (4 million people)?

    A state like the USSR, but Slavic (Russia, Ukraine, Belarus)? The name of the union - I offer you ... If only the union took place. Well, and who else will join, welcome.
  14. 0
    30 September 2017 21: 26
    Maybe I'm wrong, but for me it’s better to ignore such information drains. It’s a sin to be offended by the sick.
  15. BVS
    +1
    1 October 2017 04: 09
    Quote: NEXUS
    Quote: bvs
    You have a firm opinion - "as part of Russia"

    Yes exactly..
    Quote: bvs
    not a union of three sovereign states

    Look at Ukraine, open your eyes. Where did you see sovereignty there? Take Belarus ... do you think that there is sovereignty there? I will probably surprise you greatly, but ... sovereignty cannot be selective, or only in one thing, with respect to the state. The state is either independent in everything or not. And sovereignty implies such concepts as the ability to protect oneself, feed, drink, dress, put on shoes, give their citizens education and medicine (on their own), energy independence, and much more that the state should do and provide for itself. And now the question is -Ukraine or Belarus, given these requirements, are sovereign? Ukraine has already shown how sovereign it is alone ... do you think that without Russia, Belarus would not suffer the same fate?
    In the world, states that are truly sovereign units. And Russia is among them. And Ukraine and Belarus without the support and protection of Russia are not sovereign, from the word at all, however, like all the other former republics of the USSR.

    And the Balts, they do not depend on Russia? Are you Moldovan? And Ukraine (now) also does not depend on Russia. The gap, however, is in your judgment. There are already countries that rely not on Russia but on the EU and the USA. And this already needs to be recognized.
  16. 0
    1 October 2017 22: 12
    Quote: Thrall
    I’m watching the old KVN today, and there Poroshenko smile

    Well, on the topic:
    On Thursday morning, I saw how the last train with Russian equipment was leaving. 28.09.17/XNUMX/XNUMX


    I myself have repeatedly KVNy remember where that Poroshenko lit up. By the way, here he is with his wife and son (well, who is with a down face). And even once he does not bother him that they speak Russian on the stage;) Politics + false = loot, you know ...

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