Media: The US Air Force during the overflight of the DPRK approached the base of submarines in Sinpo

The US Air Force B-1B Lancer strategic bombers, which flew 23 September along the east coast of the DPRK, climbed much more to the north than previously reported. On Friday the channel KBS, his sources in the Ministry of National Defense and the Presidential Administration argue that American stealth aircraft reached the city of Sinpkho in the DPRK.

Earlier it was reported that they flew in neutral airspace around 60 km north of the inter-Korean sea border to the area opposite the city of Wonsan. However, in fact, from the northern boundary line, the route was made in 100 km

- notes channel.

In the port city of Xingpo, there is a submarine base, as well as a shipyard, which is engaged in both the construction of new submarines and the repair and modernization of existing ones. Back in 130 km from this area, the Phungheri testing ground is located, where the DPRK conducted the sixth nuclear test in early September, as well as the base from which long-range ballistic missiles are launched.

The fact that North Korea was apparently unable to detect the inconspicuous American aircraft can say that its air defense system is much less effective than previously thought.

- notes KBS.

Earlier it was reported that the B-1B Lancer bombers, departing from Guam, accompanied by F-15C Eagle USAF fighters from Okinawa, Japan, flew in international airspace over the waters east of North Korea, coming close to the northern edge of the demilitarized zone. This step has caused sharp discontent of the South Korean opposition. According to its representatives, the provocative overflight of the DPRK was made without the consent of Seoul. TASS

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[pjastolov]

The fact that North Korea was apparently unable to detect the inconspicuous American aircraft can say that its air defense system is much less effective than previously thought.

or maybe the cunning Eun is waiting?

[cniza]

I welcome Volodya, the United States is most afraid that Un’s nerves may tremble and continue to experience it.

[pjastolov]

The United States is most afraid that Un’s nerves may tremble and continue to experience it.

so it might be better not to tease the sleeper

[krasin]

"This step aroused sharp discontent of the South Korean opposition. According to its representatives, the provocative flight of the DPRK was carried out without the consent of Seoul."

Caught on a hook, now pretend to be a rag, be silent in a rag, without you the boss will organize
some nasty stuff between your brothers and sisters.
No .. the states definitely run up, they did not eat nettles in this and trouble.

[igorj 51]

The United States is most afraid that Un’s nerves may tremble and continue to experience it.

It looks like Shtatnikov already has the nerves to hell with themselves .. Otherwise, how can I explain this:
http://www.mk.ru/politics/2017/09/29/ssha-mogut-s
bit-yadernuyu-raketu-kndr-nad-rossiey.html

If Pyongyang launches an ICBM in the United States, its trajectory is likely to pass over the North Pole. Therefore, the US attempt to bring down this missile is likely to occur within the Russian radar space - and, possibly, even over Russia itself.

“This is what we are working on,” said Air Force General Laurie Robinson, who became the first woman to hold one of the highest military posts in the United States - the head of the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD).

[pvv113]

It is likely not to reveal their potentials

[DEPARTMENT]

Quote: pjastolov

or maybe the cunning Eun is waiting?

Of course he waits, he is not so stupid as his liberals provide us ...
The United States must begin, and that the whole world sees it!

[Orakul2000]

Yeah, and the States are all so stupid !!!! Do you really think that this Eun will be able to butt with the States ?? You don’t even have to fight against him, he will be defeated in a year of absolute economic blockade !!! And no one will oppose this blockade, not even China, since he does not want the withdrawal of American production monsters from China. And this can happen if Trump takes a bite and the American propaganda turns to the American people with the correct slogans and words for the patriotic feelings (which they know very well). For now the president is in power, a businessman whose program includes one of the items, the return of production to the United States. To do this, if you pay attention, a continuous gradual tax reduction has begun in the United States, so that production in the United States will again become attractive to production monsters.

[DEPARTMENT]

Quote: Orakul2000

Do you really think that this Eun will be able to butt with the States ??

I am sure about that ! The USA and the Anglo-Saxons with the Jews, even those cowards! ..
On the Russian blood of the Second World War, many of them made fortunes for themselves in the 90’s ... Padla!
Now they begin to scream and make excuses (even on our site ..)
Comrades will have to answer soon!
DPRK is a protest against the world-wide pressure and expansion ..!
Well, try to take Eun?

[Orakul2000]

hahaahaha well you betrayed ---

[Arzoo]

You don’t even have to fight against him, he will be defeated in a year of absolute economic blockade !!! And no one will oppose this blockade, not even China, since he does not want the withdrawal of American production monsters from China.

Ah yes pearl, ah yes rzhaka

and American propaganda, with the correct slogans and words, refers to the patriotic feelings (and they know it very well) of the American people.

Ah well done, it’s rotten propaganda there

To do this, if you pay attention, a continuous gradual tax reduction has begun in the United States, so that production in the United States will again become attractive to production monsters.

Will be attracted by Fed rate hikes and red underpants

[NordUral]

What are you happy about, my friend?

[igorj 51]

or maybe the cunning Eun is waiting?

Today in Moscow, a meeting was held between the deputy head of the Russian Foreign Ministry and the special envoy of the Russian Foreign Ministry and the deputy minister of foreign affairs of the DPRK on the issue of resolving the situation on the Korean Peninsula.

[Makarov]

That is, they invaded North Korea? And about air defense they only hope in Chinese and Russian ... this is far behind and it’s clear ...

[Thrall]

Quote: Makarov

That is, they invaded North Korea?

No.
Well, not the same Americans are "stupid" to be so substituted.

[Makarov]

but I understood ... just came closer than the Koreans thought (saw) ...

[Raven2705]

the Department of Homeland Defense and the presidential administration claim that American stealth aircraft reached the city of Sinpo in the DPRK.
I don’t understand something, or B1B and F-15 have already been transferred to invisibility. Especially interesting pr invisible B1B ...

[Lester7777]

And what's wrong with B1B? Just a modification with reduced radar visibility. And with the F-15 is not so simple. It is not known which modification was used.

[Raven2705]

F-15 do not care what kind of modification this generation is 4. The stealth technology does not smell there.

And what's wrong with B1B? Just a modification with reduced radar visibility.
Do you understand what kind of aircraft are you talking about? What is the modification with reduced radar visibility?

[Gransasso]

Quote: Raven2705

F-15 do not care what kind of modification this generation is 4. The stealth technology does not smell there.

And what's wrong with B1B? Just a modification with reduced radar visibility.
Do you understand what kind of aircraft are you talking about? What is the modification with reduced radar visibility?

The supersonic strategic bomber B-1B, developed by Rockwell, has been in service with the U.S. Air Force since mid-1985. It is designed to defeat the strategic goals of the enemy using both nuclear and conventional weapons, as well as to support general forces.

In order to reduce the effective dispersion area (EPR), composite materials were used in the aircraft structure. The front horizontal surfaces, the front edges of the wing and the stabilizer, the flaps of the bomb compartments, the edges of the air intakes, the S-shaped channels of which are equipped with profiled partitions, which exclude direct visibility of the engine compressor, are made of them. The joints of the glider skin are sealed with a special tape, on which paint is applied during the final painting of the machine. The plane of the radar antenna located in the nose of the fuselage is tilted downward at an angle of 35 °. Thanks to these measures, the EPR of the aircraft decreased, compared with the same characteristics of the B-1A prototypes, according to Western experts, by 10 times - to a value of less than 1 m2


Learn materiel ....

[Raven2705]

By your logic, the Tu-160 is also inconspicuous? By the way, where did the ESR come from?

[Gransasso]

Quote: Raven2705

By your logic, the Tu-160 is also inconspicuous? By the way, where did the ESR come from?

http://www.airwar.ru/enc/bomber/b1b.html


And where did you get your little digits? .. measured with a caliper with the guys in the lion? ...


If the Lancer's Tu-160 EPR kkk is <1 m2, then yes, he is also inconspicuous ... but I doubt it even ...

[askme]

EPR from different projections and at different wavelengths is a completely different value. That is why your numbers do not say anything about the car as a whole. From the frontal projection in the centimeter wave range, this value can also be. From the same projection, but in the decimeter range, the EPR can be an order of magnitude higher, and in the meter range even more. But if the plane goes along the border, it will have EPR in any case tens of meters from the side projection with this design. That is why such reports of "stealth" B1b - propaganda, for amateurs.

[Gransasso]

Quote: askme

EPR from different projections and at different wavelengths is a completely different value. That is why your numbers do not say anything about the car as a whole. From the frontal projection in the centimeter wave range, this value can also be. From the same projection, but in the decimeter range, the EPR can be an order of magnitude higher, and in the meter range even more. But if the plane goes along the border, it will have EPR in any case tens of meters from the side projection with this design. That is why such reports of "stealth" B1b - propaganda, for amateurs.

Do not write this nonsense anymore .. although out of self-esteem ...

[askme]

What you call "nonsense" is familiar to any specialist. Stupidity is to assume that the ESR of an airplane is a constant value that does not depend on the projection with which it is irradiated with a locator; stupidity is to assume that the ESR of an airplane is independent of the wavelength at which it is irradiated. The fact that you are a complete amateur in these matters does not mean that the laws of physics do not exist) It simply means that you are an amateur or, indeed, are stupid.

[Gransasso]

You're doing intellectual masturbation right now ... or shag grandma ...



When they write ... "The ESR of the aircraft X is 1 m2 .." .. what does this mean? ... in which projection, etc., is the ESR? ..


Try to clearly answer and do not get sick ..

[Orakul2000]

By the way, it could well have been the F-15 Silent Eagle, it just has a reduced radar detection signature.

[NEXUS]

Oh, I feel American pilots are flying ... if Washington continues to provoke Pyongyang, I think it’s not long for us to wait for the first downed mattress.

[Alexey-74]

Exactly. It’s not a fact that they haven’t seen ..... maybe they have seen, but the planes were not included in the DPRK VP, therefore they still fly.

[Vasyan1971]

Even I didn’t understand: since when have the strategic air force bombers of the US B-1B Lancer become invisible stealth? Or is it about the F-15C Eagle?
Afftir zhzhot?

[Gransasso]

Quote: Vasyan1971

Even I didn’t understand: since when have the strategic air force bombers of the US B-1B Lancer become invisible stealth? Or is it about the F-15C Eagle?
Afftir zhzhot?

And what is the EPR of the B-1B?

[aleks26]

Quote: Gransasso

And what is the EPR of the B-1B?

50 squares, if not more

[Gransasso]

Quote: aleks26

Quote: Gransasso

And what is the EPR of the B-1B?

50 squares, if not more

Did you study the topic or write the first thing that came to mind? ...

[Gransasso]

Quote: aleks26

Quote: Gransasso

And what is the EPR of the B-1B?

50 squares, if not more

"... The supersonic strategic bomber B-1B, developed by Rockwell, has been in service with the US Air Force since mid-1985. It is designed to defeat the enemy’s strategic goals using both nuclear and conventional weapons, as well as to support general forces.

In order to reduce the effective dispersion area (EPR), composite materials were used in the aircraft structure. The front horizontal surfaces, the leading edges of the wing and the stabilizer, the flaps of the bomb compartments, the edges of the air intakes, the S-shaped channels of which are equipped with profiled partitions, which exclude direct visibility of the engine compressor, are made of them. The joints of the glider skin are sealed with a special tape, on which paint is applied during the final painting of the machine. The plane of the radar antenna located in the nose of the fuselage is tilted downward at an angle of 35 °. Thanks to these measures, the EPR of the aircraft decreased, compared with the same characteristics of the B-1A prototypes, according to Western experts, by 10 times - to a value of less than 1 m2 ... "


Learn materiel ... EPR 1 m2 is already an inconspicuous plane ...

[Raven2705]

Do not write garbage

[Raven2705]

If we are talking about EPR values, then B1B has about 7,5-10 m2, and this is far from Stealth!
Materiel to teach you would not hurt.

[JonnyT]

Here is this achievement - they timidly hung around the border, and trumpeted the whole world about the victory over Eun

[Alexey-74]

along the way they are glad of it .....

[Lester7777]

"The fact that North Korea apparently couldn’t detect stealth American planes may suggest that its air defense system is much less effective than previously thought."
It seems to be up to this.

[without reverse]

why are Comrade Eunu still not given a birthday for the S-400 ??

[Andy]

and Koreans then, Koreans ... swollen. it came to the wretched that they are for "allies" - cannon fodder

[padded jacket]

As I understand it, the Americans did not enter the DPRK airspace so there was no need to “turn on” all the air defense radars of the DPRK.
Although Trump is clearly losing the remnants of his authority and it seems that the last “drops” of prudence are trying to start a war.

[ljoha_d]

Dumb s keep playing with fire

[askme]

Quote: Gransasso

When they write ... "The ESR of the aircraft X is 1 m2 .." .. what does this mean? ... in which projection, etc., is the ESR? ..

Where do they write? In Lockheed Martin advertisements you are praying for? So there they will write anything you like - such a job, cutting grandmothers and breathing in imperial tales to idiots, and you believe in this nonsense.

In the special literature, when they write about EPR, they always give both an angle and a wavelength. Or use approximate values, usually from the frontal projection and in the centimeter wavelength range. But they are never presented as exact meanings. Clear? And no other way.

[Gransasso]

Quote: askme

Quote: Gransasso

When they write ... "The ESR of the aircraft X is 1 m2 .." .. what does this mean? ... in which projection, etc., is the ESR? ..

Where do they write? In Lockheed Martin advertisements you are praying for? So there they will write anything you like - such a job, cutting grandmothers and breathing in imperial tales to idiots, and you believe in this nonsense.

In the special literature, when they write about EPR, they always give both an angle and a wavelength. And no other way.

I see ... you don’t know ... and again bother your grandmother ... by the way ... and B-1B is Lockheed? ...


Okay .. let's get a little simpler ... but in what perspective is the plane most “visible”? ... what parts of it “give out” to its radars? ...

[askme]

Yes, you are a banal troll.

[Gransasso]

Quote: askme

Yes, you are a banal troll.

Is that all? ... your knowledge of EPR in this ended? ... or to fumble your grandmother is much easier than studying the subject matter ...


Sit down. 2 .... and tomorrow without parents do not appear

[Leonid Har]

Let them come closer and find out how much the life cost of an American pilot