Vladimir Putin in Ankara discussed with Erdogan the settlement of the Syrian conflict

Following the meeting with Turkish leader Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Russian President Vladimir Putin noted key advances in resolving the long-term Syrian crisis. The talks between the two presidents took place in Ankara, where the President of the Russian Federation arrived with a delegation.

According to Putin, who thanked the Turkish counterpart for the invitation, the situation has shifted from a dead end after the start of the implementation of the initiative on the so-called de-escalation zones in the SAR.

Official President's website quoted Vladimir Putin:

It must be admitted that the work on the implementation of this idea was very difficult - both for the parties involved in the Syrian conflict and for the guarantor countries of the "Astana" process: Russia, Turkey and Iran. But, despite the difficulties, we still managed to achieve a positive result. In fact, the necessary conditions have been created for ending the fratricidal war in Syria, the final destruction of the terrorists and the return of the Syrians to a peaceful life, to their native lands. This is an absolutely fundamental thing, which is important not only for the Syrian people, not only for the region, but for the whole world: we create conditions for the return of refugees to their homes. And this is of fundamental importance for intensifying the process of finding a long-term political settlement in Geneva under the auspices of the UN.
According to the Russian president, Russia and Turkey will continue to work together to resolve the conflict in the Syrian Arab Republic.

Erdogan, in turn, supported the continuation of contacts between Ankara and Moscow to resolve the Syrian crisis.

From the statement of the Turkish president:

With our dear friend, President Putin, during today's meeting we discussed the current developments in Syria, as well as the results of the last Astana meeting. In this regard, we discussed the work aimed at making the de-escalation zone functional in Idlib. I believe that the relevant authorities will work intensively in this direction.

We are pleased with the Astana meetings that strengthen the ceasefire, which contributes to the ongoing political process in Geneva with the mediation of the United Nations.

Comments

[210ox]

Turkey is an ally forced and unreliable with all the consequences.

[verner1967]

Quote: 210ox

forced and unreliable with all the consequences.

not only will it be necessary to drive out the amers from Syria, but also to “ask” Turkey, they flocked like kites for prey, but to fight against ISIS for two years, the gut is thin.

[hrych]

The fact of the matter is that pro-American forces on two or even three fronts are in no way at all. For this, the Turks, Shiites and SAR are united in this matter. The Kurds, having secured the support of the states, are again sitting in a puddle because they put the wrong nag. Kurdistan itself is cut off territorially by Syria, Iran, Turkey and most importantly from the sea where Americans dominate. In short, the prospect is not so hot. Apparently Kurdistan will not take place in full again

[Stas157]

Quote: hrych

Kurdistan itself is cut off territorially by Syria, Iran, Turkey and most importantly from the sea

And why do they need a sea, they like to swim? Isil was also cut off, including from the sea. So what? This did not stop him from becoming a world nightmare. In Iraq, the Kurds declared independence. Soon, in Syria, they will do the same as they grab oil fields.

[hrych]

Well, repeats the fate of daisha

[Stas157]

While the West and the United States support the Kurds, no one will attack them. If they do not attack.
Your reasoning is absolutely correct - if the country is cut off by others and there is no sea, then it can be strangled. But, Isil existed, and still exists? Everything seems to be against Ishil. It is cut off from all ends. There is no sea. But, oil trades. Weapons are still flowing smoothly. Militants too. Who is renting trades? Who supplies them all? Here the Kurds will also live according to the same scheme.

[hrych]

The Daishaks were stronger than the Kurds and pinched, supported by the Saudis, Qatars, Turks, the West and Israel, even Egypt then. But it did not grow together. Now the winners of daishaks tell the Kurds stop. Of course, the Russian Federation will make every effort to avoid a new bloody meat grinder, but it is time for the Kurds to turn on the brain, otherwise they will destroy the whole thing in euphoria.

[verner1967]

Quote: hrych

Apparently Kurdistan will not take place in full again

Do you really want this?

[hrych]

By no means, I am for Kurdistan, but this should not happen under the dictation of the United States, for it is again a sea of ​​blood. So they wanted to create Daish and Kurdistan, instead of Syria and part of Iraq. Fighting with each other and against Shiites. The Kurds would also destabilize Iran and Turkey, which declared independence from the West. Now Daish is destroyed, and by our efforts. In short, the Kurds will be kicked out of the oil fields, driven into the mountains, etc.

[verner1967]

Quote: hrych

I'm not for Kurdistan

why is he?

[hrych]

A people of 40 million cannot hang out without a state, this one devil will lead to a bloody redistribution. Therefore, this process should be done very carefully.

[Herculesic]

Well, if Turkey is an ally, even if forced, then you are the emperor of the solar system

[210ox]

I do not pretend to the throne. This is to the dyards "Darth Vader" and "Chubaki" in Ukraine! And our rulers are compelled by Turkey to be friends, albeit temporarily.

Quote: Herkulesich

Well, if Turkey is an ally, even if forced, then you are the emperor of the solar system

[Kasym]

I think that GDP came for 2 months. earlier on a visit to Turkey because of the Kurdish referendum and Erdogan’s warlike statements on this issue. The Kremlin does not need this strain. Syria (near Moscow) and Iraq (near Washington) will not climb the Kurds now. Remains Iran and Turkey. Recently there was a tel. a conversation with H. Rouhani (this kind of calm and judicious man), but I had to fly to Erdogan (too emotional and impulsive).
Recently, the transfer of Turkish troops to the south was noted. Putin probably wants to find out the purpose of this transfer and "cool down" Erdogan so that he doesn’t do anything stupid. Erdogan can also know the intentions of the United States and NATO in the region and pass on his "recommendations" through it. The Yankees are required to listen to their main alliance ally in the region. And to understand that Erdogan can “expose” them from Figs. And it is important for Moscow that the Yankees leave Syria for good. In addition to Erdogan, I do not see a mediator in such negotiations. If you still convince the Turk to take the side of Moscow. That coalition will be difficult to oppose to the wishes of such an alliance of Ankara and Moscow.
So besides Syria, I see these two problems why the GDP went to the region so early. NATO actions in the region and the Kurdish referendum.
Bad or not, an ally from the Turks, but he is now needed so that there are no misunderstandings with NATO. The death of the Russian general shows that irreparable can happen at any moment. GDP must be shown where the Yankees have a red line.

[LAWNER]

I look forward to a trip to the GDP of Iran. Then everything will be put in order.

[anjey]

no one kisses the gums with Turkey and just found mutually beneficial interests ..

[Grandfather]

first thing first thing, tomatoes ...

[Esoteric]

Quote: Dead Day

first thing first thing, tomatoes ...

We got off already with tomatoes. Next in line is the S-400 ...

According to Putin, thanking his Turkish counterpart for the invitation, the situation has moved forward from the start of the implementation of the initiative about the so-called de-escalation zones in the ATS.

It seems to me that as soon as we get an American plane in Syria, the situation will get off the ground: the Americans will leave Syria, lift the sanctions and ... give up the dollar ...

[ketchow]

Quote: Esoteric

It seems to me that as soon as we get an American plane in Syria, the situation will get off the ground: the Americans will leave Syria, lift the sanctions and ... give up the dollar ...

If it's trolling, it's fine. If not, dreaming is not bad. The key word is "dream".

[Stas157]

Quote: anjey

nobody kisses the gums with turkey

Erdogan is kissing!

. From the statement of the Turkish president:
With a dear friend, President Putin ...

Well, for the Turkish stream, Akuyu, and S-400, and not so much to say!

[datur]

the enemy of my enemy is my friend, bye !!!!

[Uncle lee]

Good relations between the heads of state are only good!

[210ox]

I don’t argue! Only this "Sultan" holds a stone in my bosom. And yes! Both are smiling at the public.

Quote: Uncle Lee

Good relations between the heads of state are only good!

[The black]

I think there will be a change ..... Turks soften their position in Syria, we- do not interfere in their disassembly with the Kurds

[Kasym]

Black, there will be no such exchange. Russia is the main player now in the BV. And he cannot allow a new war, let alone the genocide of the Kurds.
GDP came to explain the interests of Moscow and how they can be combined with the interests of the Turks.
I believe that Barzani missed the moment when the Kurds of Iraq were torn from the country of the Islamic State, then it was necessary (but he earned oil with Erdogan and he was not up to it). And now I am forced to do this, as young applicants back up.

[hrych]

When the Daishevites were cut off, there was no question of oil attempts. Now they will be at the head, and they want to revise our contract there with production and pipes, etc. When it was chopping, it wasn’t before

[Kasym]

Barzani made $ 14 billion in oil smuggling with Erdogan. That is why in XNUMXg. He said that this was an internal affair of Iraq and did not make any warlike statements. And then they cut off oil and diverged interests.

[Esoteric]

Quote from Uncle Lee

Good relations between the heads of state are only good!

After the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, everyone (who was sitting on the couch) thought the same way. In June 1941, on the 22nd, the first "tomatoes" pounded on Brest ...
Such swift mood swings may cause more suspicion than satisfaction. May God grant me to be wrong ...

[Herculesic]

To prove the quality of Turkish products, Erdogad spent the whole meeting on Turkish tomatoes , and at least pure synthetics in a kevlar shell!

[rotmistr60]

With a dear friend, President Putin

Today is a "dear friend", and tomorrow? Trust, but verify directly concerns Erdogan, who has already shown his gut.

[Masya masya]

With a dear friend, President Putin

As you sing, you will hear ... but you have to turn your back to be careful ...

[Herculesic]

So ask what went could a turk demand one whistle , i.e. call to know that something unexpected happened obviously, and all that is said and shown to us is water for people! !!

[Kasym]

In Syria, everything can soon end and it is necessary to grind with NATO, so that there are no new attempts on the generals. Quietly and peacefully disperse. For the sake of it it was worth coming. Well, the Kurdish problem - Russia is now the main player and everyone is looking at GDP. His visit also flatters Erdogan. Presumably, the GDP will put all the cards on the table. NPP, Tour.Flow, tourists, tomatoes, etc. .. "If you need all this and, in addition, have good relations with the Russian Federation, the EAEU and the SCO; be so kind as to accept our interests in the region ... Who and what is more important to you? "NATO with its chaos on your borders, with terrorist attacks and attempts to overthrow ... or the world and those nishtyaki that we can provide you?" GDP is a smart man and will put everything in order on the emotional Erdogan. The choice is his. For such a conversation, it was worth it to come.

[Stas157]

. Presumably, the GDP will put all the cards on the table. NPP, Tour.Flow, tourists, tomatoes, etc .. "If you need all this and, in the appendage, have good relations with the Russian Federation, the EAEU and the SCO; be so kind as to accept our interests

Erdogan already has all these cards. He needs new promises. By the way, Erdogan gave the go-ahead for only one branch of the Turkish stream out of four. Only the one for which gas will go to Turkey, but not to Europe. Therefore, I believe that it is necessary to pull the South Stream through Bulgaria, and not to be held hostage to the insidious Turkey. Moreover, the Bulgarians are now two hands behind.

[Kasym]

This Russian Federation slaughtered 2 branches and ... took an overpayment for the pipe to Turkey (initially. Gazprom took care of everything - the Turks butted for the price only). But for the other two, let the Bulgarians and the south of the EU betray. If you do not know, then for Sev. Potok-2 EU entered the money, and not everyone was given such an opportunity.
You can kill everything even now. And even spit on the pipe, since the Turks have entered the grandmothers. Slaughter supplies of S-400. And then I will look at Erdogan, from all sides thrown. The West is only waiting for the opportunity to tear it down. The Germans will only be happy. Maybe Qatar will fit in for him ? He doesn’t get along with his neighbors, he quarreled with the Arabian monarchs and Jews. In Europe, he is an unwanted guest. What should he do? To hide in a hole, because he has powerful opposition after purges in his country? Therefore, he really needs this visit, both for the domestic electorate, and to show his neighbors that GDP for him is friend-comrade, and the Russian Federation as allies.
Erdogan is on the hook, he has nowhere to look for support. Even Central Asia will turn its back if GDP wants to.
I forgot. At NPP conditions are also tightened.

[Snail N9]

Oh-oh-oh ... are the Bulgarians that "more reliable"? “Why, say such a thing” ... One trip of the next American senator to Bulgaria and this “country” will immediately turn again in the opposite direction, to us again, backwards ...

[syndicalist]

Bulgarians can raise their legs "For". Everything will be decided by the European Commission. And there the alignment is not at all in our favor. The same situation is with the Turkish stream. Both streams have more than vague prospects

[Esoteric]

Quote: Herkulesich

So ask what went

After all, he cannot do without a return visit ... And he showed some people that he was not afraid to personally visit a rather tense region ... This is not a wave from the UN rostrum, here we have many different "our" gas interests. ..

[syndicalist]

This was hardly a planned visit. Without a preliminary announcement? Someone greatly impatient. And this is clearly a Kurdish problem, although there is not a word about it in the article. Who pulled someone from the place time will tell

[Kasym]

The assassination of a general cannot be called an ordinary event. GDP is the supreme commander. And it is necessary to find out the tricks with NATO. And Erdogan is the main representative of the alliance in the region. I don’t need to explain further.

[soldier]

It would be nicer to hear:

Putin and Assad discussed the problem of settlement in Turkey

[Snail N9]

Yes .... I found the Darkest "friend" for myself. I remember all the speeches of Erdogan when the Turks shot down our plane and honored the terrorist who shot our pilot. I remember everything.

[ketchow]

Erdogan, of course, is Putin’s “favorite” because he knows how to speak pleasant and expected words and look into his eyes with ingratiating eyes. But this is cunning, two-faced, and - most importantly - well aware of what he needs from us, the Janissaries from politics. If we allow him to manipulate us in the Syrian conflict, it will be a huge mistake with unpredictable consequences.
While the air support of our troops of the Turkish troops and the "proxy" in the north was costing it, it could still be tolerated. Now he wants more - to draw us into conflict with the Kurds in the province of Idlib in his own interests and get approval of his territorial claims (veiled under the protection of the "Turkish population") in Syria. In fact, on our hump, Erdogank wants to go to the leading pieces (such as the queen, to put it in chess language, and we are assigned the role of our own “tours” or “horse”) in the region.
I hope Putin understands this, and not only accepts the flattering descaling of the sly Turks. If he does not understand, then he is an even worse political player than I think of him, and these curtsies with Erdogan will not end well

[Vlad5307]

Quote: Snail N9

Yes .... I found the Darkest "friend" for myself. I remember all the speeches of Erdogan when the Turks shot down our plane and honored the terrorist who shot our pilot. I remember everything.

The GDP also has a good memory, but Syria needs to be reconciled as quickly as possible, and the Kurdish issue should not interfere with this, the Americans intend to push the wheels in this way in every way. Well, various political and economic issues also require adjustment in connection with the changed conditions. We are not talking about any kind of friendship; we are talking about mutual benefits and compromises in politics and more.

[Snail N9]

The Kurdish issue is not resolved, from the word "in general", except for providing them with statehood. But to convince them to provide state autonomy of all states on which this autonomy will be located is impossible. The only solution: to all such countries to unite and ..... it’s clear what to do with the Kurds, but this is “genocide” and the entire world “community” led by the USA is waiting for this (and how Israel is waiting for it) to start a full-scale intervention in this region ...

[yuliatreb]

Not for this, of course, V.V.P. He came, questions were solved much more globally, they did a dump to the press so that they would not ask unnecessary questions. Here, I think the main problem on the agenda was the referendum held by the Kurds and its consequences for the entire region on how to avoid a long and bloody war.

[Snail N9]

Well, actually Russia behaved "neatly" with the Kurds. For example, about 13% of the population lives in Adygea and there are quite a few in other regions of Russia. No need to think of them as "peaceful" citizens. In the 90s, there were performances of Meskhetian Turks and Kurds for declaring their own autonomy on the territory of the Krasnodar Territory. The Meskhetian Turks "father Kondrat" successfully shoved into the United States, where they became another "headache" for the "humanities" and the people of the "best democracy in the world" who even had to suspend the resettlement program. But with the Kurds .... there began the graters of the Adyghe (Kasogi-"sik") with them. It seems that they managed to resolve everything ..... but .... Russia will have to decide what to do with them. It seems like two ways — to allow the Kurds to establish their own state — and to push their Kurds there, but then you have to lose part of the territory in Syria (and this is very important) and quarrel with Turkey and Iraq (and Iran), you can prevent them from organizing their own state then we get another “dissatisfied” with Russia’s policy (and, in the future, another 5th column) in such a turbulent multinational region as the Krasnodar Territory. Here's a dilemma ....

[yuliatreb]

Kurds claim a lot in the event of a favorable outcome for them, and they don’t want to share this much with them, because Russia and the Kurds behaved in principle in a "gentlemanly" way, it’s clear that the common enemy is what graters can be, you need to be able to negotiate, but I heard about the story with the Kurds. I was talking about what the idea was, the visit of the GDP to Turkey is not quite what the press writes about.

[bastard]

Yes, Turkey is still an ally! That's really from whom to expect a knife in the back, the whole story shows its cunning.

[Snail N9]

C'mon, what is this "deceit"? To be honest, it was Russia that started the war with the Turks (the Ottoman Empire) for access to the Black Sea and the liberation of the "Christian martyrs", and if easier, for the conquest of new lands. The Turks only snapped and tried to regain what Russia had chopped off. But these Christian "martyrs" whom Russia freed from Turkish "oppression", such as Bulgaria, Romania, Moldova, Greece and so on, are certainly two-faced and treacherous creatures.

[Mentat]

Quote: Esoteric

We got off already with tomatoes

No, actually. Officially, the Turkish authorities estimated the economic damage from Russia's sanctions at $ 9 billion. Unofficially, according to the Turks themselves, this is closer to 20 billion. This is approximately the Sochi Olympics. Once - and from the pocket of Turkey, the money equivalent to the Olympics evaporated. Is it "got off with tomatoes"? Geopolitical shifts are difficult to evaluate in a specific amount, but they are obvious and much more expensive. You could push harder and further, Turkey would cry with bloody tears. But even so, these are very impressive losses, and Russia still does not need to reel Turkey.
So do not throw liquid odorous and naughty on the forum.

[razved]

Will Turkey Be Enough For Long?

[FLOOD]

Quote: Esoteric

Quote from Uncle Lee

Good relations between the heads of state are only good!

After the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, everyone (who was sitting on the couch) thought the same way. In June 1941, on the 22nd, the first "tomatoes" pounded on Brest ...
Such swift mood swings may cause more suspicion than satisfaction. May God grant me to be wrong ...

And what was the essence of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact? Stalin had to agree to the division of Europe between Germany and the USSR. And so this section occurred more painfully (30 million owls of citizens) and with the participation of the United States instead of Germany. Not everything is as it is written in textbooks))