To the tasks of diversification of OPK products

The use of defense-industrial complex capacities for the production of civilian products under the existing conditions is an important and complex economic as well as organizational task. On a number of industries where civilian products may be contiguous (space, auto-, aircraft-, shipbuilding, etc.), diversification of the product range does not represent a special problem. There are plans developed and they are being implemented. For other specialized enterprises the task becomes more complicated. The fact is that the head enterprises are, as a rule, workshops for the assembly and adjustment of serial products, equipped with specialized equipment for a specific nomenclature. Technologically related companies-suppliers of the second, third, fourth level of cooperation. Also, to date there are still inactive industries that are awaiting the option of their decision to launch, for example, such an important industry as the branch of special chemistry. For these enterprise groups, diversification of the product range can be difficult. These issues need to be addressed. But, remembering the negative lessons of conversion from the time of perestroika, it’s not a violent way to decide.

There is a solution to this problem with a number of positive points for the economy as a whole. The essence of the statement of the problem is as follows: to create conditions for increasing the efficiency of investments through more intensive use of the production potential, including through the release of parts, assemblies and constructs for civilian products.

Such a task can be solved by creating a communicative environment of a new level of quality, ensuring a deep level of industrial cooperation, using technological interaction and accumulated industrial and technological experience, more efficient use of material and intellectual resources in the industrial sphere. Under the influence of the environment of this level of production culture, an area of ​​diffusion (interpenetration) between civilian and defense industries will be formed, the return on investment will increase. The problem of conversion will gently move into the area of ​​expanding industrial cooperation while maintaining the features of the structure of the defense sector.

The implementation of such a program may have an accelerator effect for the domestic economy, in particular, the modernization of the processing industries, the development of new construction materials and their products, the development of instrument and machine building, environmental programs, programs to initiate business activity of the population and small business development.

At the same time, the military-industrial complex will receive a powerful tool for developing and maintaining the existing scientific and technological potential for the production of weapons and military equipment at a high professional level, and the special chemistry industry will be restored to a new qualitative level.

The development, creation and introduction of such an environment in the economy can be engaged in the newly formed Development Center conversion at the military-industrial complex of the Russian Federation.

Funding for this topic can be allocated both for a separate FTP, and at the expense of existing programs, for example, programs for the exploration of the Moon, environmental programs, etc. Additional materials can be worked out after making a decision in principle to establish the center.

Comments

[midshipman]

Dear Eugene, The approach to solving the problem is correct. In Soviet times, there was a rule at all defense industry enterprises: "The payroll fund was formed at the expense of consumer goods." I had 45 enterprises subordinate (Ministry of Radio Industry of the USSR). They produced: electrophones, televisions, tape recorders, furniture, parts for cars, office equipment, refrigerators and shop windows, etc. Today we deliver buses. What for?
Say hello to Komkov N.I. and Ivanter V.V. I have the honor.

[iConst]

Quote: midshipman

The approach to solving the problem is correct.

What's the problem? Where and by whom is she voiced?
There is a discussion of a certain abstract task, “Involving the military-industrial complex’s capacities for the production of civilian products in existing conditions.” What for?

Those. the classic version of "the disease is not identified, but we know how to treat." Or is the disease still known, but we are bashfully silent about it?

Announce the symptoms and maybe there is another, more effective medicine?

The author suggests that under this vague topic, for a minute, not a group of research on the problem, but already a whole Center for state money (and where else?) Get drunk! No, "normal", 25 years practiced sawing a gosbabl. Do not forget to include me in this center, if only as the second deputy - the right word, I know a lot of things, worked in the defense industry, I own anti-crisis techniques. Come in handy. Salary less than a quarter of lyama per month does not offer ...

[Sling cutter]

Quote: iConst

There is a discussion of a certain abstract task, “Involving the military-industrial complex’s capacities for the production of civilian products in existing conditions.” What for?

Colleague! This is a well-known move, called conversion.
In those years, I was forced to "cut" the production line for the production of "Grad" rockets and arrange the production of gas stoves First, to hell, they broke everything! Then they bought a dozen imported plates, made something intermediate of them (this was done by the designer who devoted his whole life to weapons) The result was a “bomb” with grills, ignitions, wax, practically a flying fortress There was any metal at the factory ---- as much as you want. We built a conveyor, a “paint module”, a “stove”, set up stamping. And the plate went !!! Beautiful, a lot of stainless steel parts))) I don’t know who then considered the prime cost , but in 1991, nobody needed this plate for hell. After the conveyor stopped, the unpainted parts of those plates hung on hooks ....
But those people who managed to get apartments equipped with these stoves use them to this day, they are beautiful and indestructible, like a Kalashnikov assault rifle, even the piezo works
And the workshop is no longer there, but by the way there is no factory ....

[Dashout]

Quote: midshipman

Say hello to Komkov N.I. and Ivanter V.V. I have the honor.

Dear Yuri Grigoryevich! I will definitely pass ...

[andrewkor]

For one ruble of the main production, enterprises must deductively produce TNP per ruble.

[tasha]

Not an easy task. "A horse and a trembling doe cannot be harnessed to one cart." We need to work in this direction, but without fanaticism, otherwise it will turn out to be a bad frying pan and an unimportant machine gun ... Let's better fly to the moon ....

[Gardamir]

bad pan and poor machine gun.

Ak che, a frying pan and a machine gun on which you can fry. And not for that we were condemned to liberalism, what would fly on the moons, there are no treasurers.

[tasha]

Treasure ...

[Mavrikiy]

I wonder how many consumer goods Boeing produced?

[andrewkor]

And 500 civilian aircraft per year will suit you?

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: andrewkor

And 500 civilian aircraft per year will suit you?

Well then, cars from UVZ and 2saygi2 from Kaloshnikov or from whom they are there should arrange you.
And I would be happy if idiotic topics were not raised on the site.

[andrewkor]

I’m happy with all of the above, but you didn’t answer about Boeing’s civilian products on your own question and turned the arrows. Please explain why the topic of one of the problems of the Russian military-industrial complex is idiotic in your opinion?

[Mavrikiy]

Because the boots must be sharpened by the shoemaker, and the cakes should be baked by the cakes.

[TOR2]

The shoemaker can produce shoes for both the aircraft and the civilian sector. The cake man can produce both cakes for the civilian sector, so dry. rations for the sun.
The military-industrial complex has never liked working in the civilian sector. Principle - warriors will buy for any money there still lives to this day. But the civilian market does not tolerate this attitude.

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: TOR2

The shoemaker can produce shoes for both the aircraft and the civilian sector. The cake man can produce both cakes for the civilian sector, so dry. rations for the sun.
The military-industrial complex has never liked working in the civilian sector. Principle - warriors will buy for any money there still lives to this day. But the civilian market does not tolerate this attitude.

So the military-industrial complex does not break into the civilian market

[Gardamir]

Involving the military-industrial complex’s capacities for the production of civilian products under the existing conditions is an important and difficult economic and organizational task.

That is, the generation and the same bodygirl is changing, you can hang it on your ears every 30 years. Conversation was talked about back in the Gorbachev era. And now that the tanks have nowhere to go, they decided to switch to unmanned pans. Only it’s not like socialism for a long time, the invisible hand of the market rules everything. Just something does not grow together among the doomsday of Russia on liberalism.

[Dashout]

Quote: iConst

What's the problem?

Quote: Gardamir

l the generation and the same bodygirl changes, you can hang on your ears, every 30 years.

There is a problem and it has an objective character: How (how) to stimulate a closed scientific and production structure to technological development (updating) at a speed comparable with the modern rate of development of scientific and technological progress?

Due to the nature of production, the defense industry is a closed structure. This design indirectly affects the reduction of competition at the second, third or fourth level of cooperation, which means slow updating of their technical solutions, stagnation in the product range (we are talking about the production and updating of components).
The second aspect: the limited volume of sales of a complete set does not provide the enterprise with a sufficient amount of working capital (the salary of staff, the calculation of funds, working and living conditions, etc. are reduced); as soon as this nomenclature position is transferred to the category of auxiliary production - you can put an end to the technical improvement of this position.
The third aspect for this group: underutilized production is slowly being depreciated. If I may say so: the rate of technological inflation is ahead of the rate of depreciation of equipment. In other words, technological upgrade of production lags behind.

The defense industry can be considered as specific groups of industries for the production of individual specific products with fragmented scientific and technological support for output, and not as a developed scientific and technological environment with a deep level of cooperation. In addition to economic disadvantages, this situation leads to the fact that a number of developers' ideas cannot be implemented in existing conditions. This restrains both the renewal of production and the development of the scientific and technical groundwork for military and technical aviation.

[tasha]

It is precisely that the defense industry is a too specific group of industries. Is the issue of cooperation within the framework of the defense industry complex resolved?

[Dashout]

Quote: tasha

It is precisely that the defense industry is a too specific group of industries. Is the issue of cooperation within the framework of the defense industry complex resolved?

Yes, there are certain developments

[viktorch]

old booty, only now for extra money

the conversion of military-industrial complex enterprises - is not realizable in a sane form, only as a temporary measure in a short post-war period,
the question is posed completely wrong

this is not a military man should produce civilian products, this is CIVIL enterprises should produce most of the military industrial complex, and only very specific things can be done at specialized enterprises that can no longer produce nifig, this works for normal people.
Well, if the conventional industry is strangled, then no conversions will help anyone, it’s just pointless.
and calls for conversion - this is another guile, another version of the feeding rospil is offered.

[34 region]

11.27. Victor! So today it is being done. Do you think the fabric for the Defense Ministry at the military factory is released and also sewn at the military !? The fabric is produced by an ordinary factory, and sew in prison. Truck cranes for the Defense Ministry also produce not a military factory, but a conventional crane. It was the same in the USSR. If the aircraft factory in Komsomolsk produced Amur boats, then this was a secondary production. There is another question. Do you have to produce civilian products at a military factory? Must civilian production have to produce military products? In the USSR, cigarettes of 7,62 caliber and pasta production capable of producing artillery powder did not bother anyone. It is not clear what the problem is today. Through TNP to finance military development? Or from military developments to finance civilians? Do not suck (create artificially) are we a problem? A military plant will make bolts and sell them in the market, or they will make bolts in a civilian plant, and a military plant will also buy them. Maybe it's in the GOST and the terms of reference?

[Dashout]

Quote: viktorch

CIVIL enterprises should produce most of the military industrial complex, and only very specific things can be done at specialized enterprises that can no longer produce nifig, so this works for normal people. Well and if conventional industry is stifled, then no conversions will help anyoneIt’s just pointless.

Quote: Region 34

Are we sucking (creating artificially) a problem?

Yes, I agree with you - you spoke out to the point! If civilian industry is destroyed, then at least you sign up - only one defense industrial complex remains. All right. The government needs to engage in the revitalization of industry, its development. But in our government, Medvedev - he plays games at government meetings, Dvorkovich, Shuvalov ... did they even hear anything about industry? do they even imply that it (industry) should be? Here, from the latest achievements, they stimulated the growth of fish for export ...
I don’t know when it (the government) will leave us ....

[Dashout]

Quote: Region 34

Do you have to produce civilian products at a military factory?

Not! Auxiliary capacities involved in the defense industry can only become a catalyst for the formation of a new new scientific and technological industrial environment.
Of course, the field of civil industry should be developed and activated, and the defense industry will only be able to take the best and highest quality materials and equipment.

[Dashout]

Quote: viktorch

this is not a military man should produce civilian products, this is CIVIL enterprises should produce most of the military-industrial complex

Quote: viktorch

Well, if the conventional industry is stifled, then no conversions will help anyone

Quote: Region 34

Do not suck (create artificially) are we a problem?

You absolutely definitely noted that civil industry should be actively developing. It is she (citizen) who must provide the resource base for the defense industry. All the most durable, the best and the highest quality in the defense industry! But today this is not so ... The government of Medvedev, Dvorkovich, Shuvalov generally knows that Russia should have its own developed industry? I have doubts ... Medvedev plays games at a government meeting .., Dvorkovich and Shuvalov stimulate fish exports ...

[SERGUS]

This problem can be solved when creating a communicative environment.
a diffusion region will be formed
The implementation of such a program may have an accelerator effect.

The article outlines the urgent problem, especially considering the fact that the rearmament program is not eternal, but some phrases are unnecessarily complicated IMHO

[nikvic46]

While we will be releasing new products to receive money from export, neither the state nor the people from such a program
they won’t receive anything. To increase exports, we drop the ruble, otherwise how to sell our products. You can prove that
2 + 2 = 5, which is what they are pushing at us.

[a.sirin]

E - rune - yes .. As long as there is no market for relatively - though - complicated science-intensive products, everything written is a beautiful-heartedness of dreams. In Russia there is no such market and, due to the low purchasing power of both the population and business, is not expected.
You can, of course, close the domestic market - then the manufacturer will not work in a state of competition and will drive what he wants, including and in quality.
And the domestic manufacturers of consumer goods cannot win the competition with foreign manufacturers today. From words never and never

[Dashout]

Quote: a.sirin

And the domestic manufacturers of consumer goods cannot win the competition with foreign manufacturers today. From words never and never

You know, the Americans thought about our army that it would never recover from the "perestroika" and 90's - they hastened ..., did not expect Putin to come ...

Quote: a.sirin

While there is no market for relatively - at least - complicated high-tech products, everything written is a great-heartedness of dreams. In Russia there is no such market and, due to the low purchasing power of both the population and business, is not expected.

Here you are right ... as you put it, "never and never" - these are the terms our government thinks about industry, the domestic market. I don’t know where it happened, so they have a revered, "invisible hand of the market"? But you can "dream" that something in this direction may change ..
We have already talked about this topic - without an active domestic market, without reanimating the domestic industry, everything will remain “never and never”. Need to try

[a.sirin]

The Americans did not hurry in anything, because no one expected an explosive rise in oil prices. If they had expected, they would have predicted the results with more or less high accuracy.
I worked in the defense industry for 15 years. Therefore, I know well what I'm talking about conversion. You either do not understand the simplest and simplest things, or build a new model that you like. But this is not the point: in the USSR, nothing more or less advanced OUTSIDE the military-industrial complex did not exist - talk about "advanced" refrigerators and washing machines with tape recorders is nonsense. All this was borrowed in one way or another, and not only constructively, but, most importantly, ideologically from the point of view of the consumption process.
You cannot understand this, the philosophical foundation of the very meaning of the production of “goods for the people”.
Or do not want to.
Strange as it may sound, the military industry is relatively easy to “raise”, especially if there are very decent backlogs from the “past country”. One can discuss the role and place of the Soviet military-industrial complex - achievements in today's "successes", but the main thing is different: there is a PAYABLE DEMAND in the country for weapons. But for goods that have yet to be invented, developed and produced - no.
And it won’t, because raw material prices will not rise in the next 15 to 20 years.
Any attempt at conversion production will run into trivial issues of development - production - supply of components, provision of service and much more. Yes, there are narrow areas in which you can get something, but this is a penny relative to what is needed. But one will have to face along this path with colossal business empires based on huge deliveries of foreign goods to Russia on a large scale. And they can’t get in touch with new ones, not verified, that do not provide their obligations normally (as accepted) with suppliers, not with their hands.
But even this is not important: at least crack, but it is extremely difficult to find a niche in the market with something of your own, but made on the “patterns” of other manufacturers, especially in the segment of inexpensive products ("... I’m not so rich that I would buy unknown..."). You need to enter the market with NEW goods or with a new reading of them (you know what I mean? I hope ...) And here is another "ambush" that VPKshniki do not think about in principle: for a new product you need an ENVIRONMENT in which it the most "new" is capable of pro-coolness. Those. designers, ideologists, if you like, philosophers of changing people's lives by offering them new options for products, on the one hand, and on the other hand, able to convince them of the necessity and necessity of this acquisition.
This is for you, gentlemen, good, do not T-50, then you need to think! To convince a person to give "their money" oh how difficult! Win the contest at least 10 times, but there are no and no sales ...
I have been in business for many years, and it’s production, I have a good idea of ​​the level of lag not of the actual opportunities, namely, if you want, the philosophical essence of the issue. At the forefront should be the desire for every possible improvement in the standard of living - i.e. consumption. It is her, dear, is the source of funds for the development of everything and everything.
Including defense
The rest is the great-heartedness of daydreaming amateurs from the economy.

[a.sirin]

By the way, about the "invisible hand" - here it is, bony, and creates what we have

[Zefr]

"On the tasks of diversification of defense industry products"

Is this somehow connected by sabotage?

[Dashout]

Yeah , factory spies are going to catch ...
Diversification - expanding the range of products and the reorientation of markets, the development of new types of industries in order to increase production efficiency, obtain economic benefits (Wikipedia)

[Dashout]

a.sirin What are you picking up? Offended in passing ... Why are you so excited? Does the term "conversion" affect you like that? So where did you see attempts to implement it? Have you read the article or are you talking to yourself?

Quote: a.sirin

for a new product you need an ENVIRONMENT

Duck and an article about the same! It is precisely proposed to create such an environment for the scientific and technical creativity of engineers and entrepreneurs. Regarding the organization of such an environment, you can return to the previously discussed articles (a couple in my profile). Come on, get connected.

[a.sirin]

You do not understand anything. This is just visible - "... create an environment for scientific and technical creativity ...". You live, dear, ideas ... how to put it mildly, historical. The work of engineers is not the first or even the second thing that is required for the "invasion" of the mass market of goods - first of all, we need an ideology, the creation of images and meanings that can attract consumers. Today they - in fact - are created outside of Russia. Accordingly, goods are also created "in the same place."
And by the way, I didn’t “pick up” anything - I just tried to possibly briefly describe the main problem of all attempts to create my own production of “non-military-industrial complex” goods.
He is not interested in discussing questions that have long been answered in the world.

[Dashout]

Quote: a.sirin

You do not understand anything.

I realized that the ideology of marketing completely subordinates the ideology of scientific and technological development and creativity in you. What does "mass market invasion" have to do with it - are you engaged in trade? We are talking about the formation of an active scientific and technological creative environment that allows us to materialize various ideas of developers. In our reality, however, there is no such possibility. Let me give you an example: while working on patent No. 2537306 of the Russian Federation, I was literally torn between cities - aluminum chloride (anhydrous) was found in Novosibirsk, heavy residues with the right asphaltene content were found in Ufa, I myself live in Moscow. I could not find a kilogram of CCl3 in Moscow - take it or a ton from China for import with a monthly supply or - free ... What innovative economy can we talk about? Only on paper! Why am I - the fact that an active and resource-rich scientific and technological environment with a deep level of cooperation is primary! in a developing economy. What would your beloved and adored Bill Geitz do with his images if there weren’t an actively functioning Silicon Valley?
Read the propaganda!

[a.sirin]

"... an active and resource-rich scientific and technological environment with a deep level of cooperation is primary! in a developing economy" - in a developing economy (at the Russian level of development) this cannot be by definition since this business is scientific and technical. environment with cooperation is just a PRODUCT of a highly developed economy.
B. Geitz began working in a country where all this has already been created. Incidentally, this is precisely why they are leaving "Russia" from Russia and other countries - because there is already everything for productive work. And they’re doing it right - one life.
What happened to your project is called "work in the conditions of logistical uncertainty" - it's okay, we went through this at the beginning. 2000s Yes, it’s difficult. When developing a work plan, it is necessary to immediately provide for such features of the beloved Motherland and look for a company that will take care of all issues of such supplies. Expensive? Yes, therefore, it is not promising to engage in innovations in Russia. I moved the Czech Republic to the main core of the business - no problems and worries with providing R&D, all on time and with high quality.
In general, with Russian distances + gouging + greed / poverty, attempts on a massive scale to create a "scientific and technological environment" are doomed to failure. Immediately and completely. Only if what I said (a very attractive brand for the mass market with huge potential profits from sales) appears, all your problems and difficulties, as if by chance, will be solved.
Money, you know ...
In general, “developer ideas” can be successfully implemented in one and only one case: if they have powerful business interests behind them. In all others, this is profanity. It is necessary at the initial stage to look for either an interested business, or independently attract the necessary funds not only for development, but also for subsequent promotion of the product that is being created on the market.
In general, there is no concept of “innovative economy” - these are domestic notions, there are countries with a high level of consumption in which big finances are spinning. Thanks to them, everything lives and develops.

[a.sirin]

I had in mind a completely different "environment."

[Strashila]

This topic is a decade. “Using the defense industry’s capacities to produce civilian products under the existing conditions is an important and difficult economic and organizational task. In a number of industries where civilian products can be related (space, auto, aircraft, shipbuilding, etc.), diversification the product range does not pose a particular problem. "... I fundamentally disagree, it also represents what kind of complexity. Many do not correctly understand the use of the OPK capacities for the production of civilian products with reference to the era of the USSR ... then the defense industry enterprises really let out civilian goods ... "but", there is a big "but", they were produced at cover plants which went into the plant structure DIC, two in one. The cover plant allowed you to buy technology and equipment abroad. Conditionally ... a full-cycle television production plant was purchased ... the defense industry got access to chip manufacturing technologies, yes ... not the latest achievements, but it was better that they could produce at the time of purchase ... paid money, won time. But in turn, the defense industry did not stand still and gradually introduced its achievements in civilian life ... it introduced in civilian life, and did not start production of civilian products. Any defense industry is geared towards the production of a certain type of product, thereby achieving its economic feasibility.

[Dashout]

Quote: Strashila

In a number of industries where civilian products may be related (space, auto, aircraft, shipbuilding, etc.), diversification of the product range does not pose a particular problem. "... I fundamentally disagree, it also presents some complexity.

You're right! Yes, in terms of sales, the output of civilian products in these industries may increase, but the indicated problem will not be removed! These industries are also dependent on the quality condition (update) of the release of the 2-3 level of cooperation. Question: how to start this mechanism?
It seems to me that these are all the minuses of the program-targeted method of planning, the attitude to the development of such an environment of the first persons of the state. I remember when Ivanov SB arrived at the military-industrial complex, he said in his speech that we would not stoop to household appliances — we would be engaged in missiles ... (something like that). Then it distorted me ... (it’s hard to imagine C-500 not with sensors, but with toggle switches manufactured by 80's), but, probably, in those conditions the decisions made were the most correct ... Now there is an opportunity to look around and determine what exactly the quality level of the total potential of the scientific and technological environment is determining for the introduction of any new models, a sharp expansion in the production of a certain nomenclature, etc. Not separate plants (for each nomenclature), but the environment should allow the generation of technological chains for any product. Then the quality of equipment will increase, the domestic market will grow, there will be a demand for new technologies for the production of components ....
My proposal is 1) in the development, implementation and introduction of the structure of the scientific and technological environment into a business turnover, the qualitative state of which will make it possible to generate and accompany technologies at all stages of life, initiate creativity, business activity, and demand - sales; 2) create a development center under the Military-Industrial Commission of the Russian Federation (i.e., remove it from the influence zone of the Dvorkovichi). Need to try. State assistance is needed only for the prototype period - then there will be many interested companies.

[Strashila]

“The help of the state is needed only for the period of the creation of the prototype - then there will be many interested companies.” ... unfortunately this partnership is not about our country, as long as money bags do not connect their future with Russia, this is not possible. In Soviet times, foreign espionage was most developed in industrial espionage, but then there was someone to give for further use ... and now to whom even having received some kind of technology, to whom to give so as not to burn. In the days of the USSR, a book was published by Markus Wolf of the head of intelligence of the German Democratic Republic, it mentions partnerships between large business and governments in the West, in those days there were constant meetings, information exchange between government structures and private companies ... who are rich in what they shared in the benefit of the security of our country and the prosperity of business ... and we can have such a partnership ... ???, this is from the realm of fiction and fairy tales. Although there were examples in the history of Russia ... even that of the tsarist ... only the state entrepreneur’s interaction scheme is different ... Demidov ... he built an arms factory on his own money ... launched production ... and the state later bought it .

[Dashout]

Quote: Strashila

to whom to give so as not to burn

Respected Strashila . I have already said that the designed environment refers to each of the stages of the technology life cycle: А.Idea, Sketch, Expertise; Б.Project; В. Materialization of the idea; Г.Exploitation; Д. Disposal. At stage A, the medium allows you to generate technologies, to search for the most effective technological routes for the production of products; at stage B, D - shows for any production unit potential suppliers and buyers of products (practically answers the fundamental questions of business revitalization: What? For whom? How much / for how much? Of what? How?. Thus, the any technology (no matter where it came from) presented in the medium as a normalized technological route can be depersonalized and materialized... Here, on the contrary, it will take everything that is possible to bring into the intellectual content of this environment ... so - we will not get burned ..

[Strashila]

"Thus, any technology (no matter where it came from) presented in the environment as a normalized technological route can be depersonalized and materialized ..." ... for any technology to be materialized, various kinds of resources are required ... human / intellectual .... human / industrial ... material ... financial ... administrative / political, so these resources in Russia are not significant balances of industries, now the situation resembles the state of the 30s of the past toletiya ... in fact that is not present, the collapse of the economy is close to full, to the point. If in the relatively recent past, in the days of the USSR, it was decided simply, purposefully allocating resources for the direction (not only internal, but also external in the form of intelligence, if the state needed it, it could buy trophies from allies ... like an Israeli tank, elements of the F-117 for Iraqis and Serbs) or if there was an opportunity then buying ... a patent, technology, finished production abroad .... then today to whom it is transferred to use, many enterprises do not even know the owners ... sometimes they are overseas. As for the introduction of a new one with our money bags, the best example ... E-mobile, even having dough did not help. The fact that we have this Soviet legacy in one way or another.

[Dashout]

Quote: Strashila

The fact that we have this Soviet legacy in one way or another.

This is true! But you need to set new goals and change this situation ...

Quote: Strashila

.. so that any technology can be materialized, various kinds of resources are required ... human / intellectual ... human / production ... material ...

Again you are right! So it is proposed to first collect the structure of the environment, and then offer (show) the advantages of enterprises from registration in the environment, the statement of their potential at the level of individual technological units ...
Maintenance of the environment is supposed to be entrusted to the Administrator from the defense industry complex, which has certain access groups and rights

[Dashout]

Yes, we are talking only about utility production, or about the capacities of the second or third level of cooperation; scientific, technological, design potential

[a.sirin]

Amazing, enchanting discoveries I make for myself, reading you, Dashout:
"... at stage B, D - shows for any production unit potential suppliers and buyers of products (practically answers the fundamental questions of business revitalization: What? For whom? How much / how much? From what? How?"
It turns out there are "some sources of financing" that will give money before the answers to the questions become clear What? For whom? How much / for how much? Of what? How?
Those. Apparently, some finances are circulating in the “environment”, which, out of one’s arbitrariness, can be used to “materialize anonymized technology” ...
I’m not going to insult you or offend you, but do you even imagine in practice a business engaged in part of at least a little knowledge-intensive?