Understanding the situation in the Donbass leaves. Together with people
Deja vu. Cafe on the highway Rostov - Moscow, where I have more than a dozen times met with their wards "because of the ribbon." The last meeting took place more than two years ago, and now ... The cafe has not changed. The person I met in the hot June of 2014 was almost unchanged during the second trip with the load and the first trip “there”.
Almost - this, of course, is said not quite correctly. Of course, there is a difference. And a couple of years in a not quite cozy world took their toll, but most importantly - extinct eyes and emptiness. All Novorossia or DNI ended for another fighter. Then go to the Ryazan region, where there are people who will help with citizenship, and then - the Orenburg region, where they are ready to take on the salary equipment equipment engineer in his main specialty.
21 has been working behind her back in Soledar, at Artemsoli. Forever lost everything that happened in Soledar, the broken apartment of his wife in Gorlovka and the burned down parental house in Zaytsevo. A year and a half in the militia of the DPR, a year in the Corps. Two fragments of mines in the Trudovskys and a bullet (thank God, at the end of it) in Yasinovataya.
That's how the former militia and the former humanitarian came together. Just "talk for life", nothing Yuri did not need from me, just had a great desire to speak out. Not just the first comer, but a person who understands a little more than those who simply draw information from the media.
I listened and was silent. And what could you say, ask about? I know everything (or almost everything). But - I am silent, because the time has not come yet to speak, and the same notorious "do not rock the boat." Then just give the part recorded monologue.
* * *
Nobody is going to rock the boat. Just leave the boat. For uselessness. The medical board, which at one moment recognized me as unfit, is so, a reason, no more. Just cut the umbilical cord. But the understanding that life ended here came even earlier.
Who really was in the Donbass, and not from the picture in the telly, he knows what we have going on. Yes, it was all: "spinning", looting, protection, redistribution of property. It was, no one will hide. And we sawed the base and handed over; don’t understand to whom, so that there was something to devour to the battalion and buy everything necessary.
Then it was no better. AND weapon with the equipment evaporated simply on an amazing scale, and the goryuchka dried out in tanks. Everything was. Lawlessness? Well yes. And what is surprising, who went to fight, they went to fight. Who knew how to steal - he took up this business. Not everyone is given, not everyone can.
All these political clashes we were sideways. Yes, commanders fought with politicians, commanders went into politics, politicians flooded to command. Normal mess like that.
And all this against the background of real war. Yes, for them, for you - the fading, then flashing again, but for us - the war.
Yes, there were some funny talks, some agreements, there were different clownery. That's just the war did not end for a day. And we were there, killed, every day they were killed.
You yes, surges issued when Givi with a motor scooter removed. And nothing that every day someone dies?
This Minsk ... Minsk, it is far, and the front line - here it is, side by side, in my former Gorlovka. Agreements, treaties and other nonsense, it is not for those who actually arrives. Clown dances in Minsk for those who do not know how to mine howls. They have nothing to do on the front end.
And while some are sitting under the shelling every day, others are politically active. The sense in which as in a blank cartridge. That is, the application can be found if you want. But better than combat.
There are many questions, but they are all clumsy. And ask sloppy, and the answers to them are the same direct.
We are simply killed by this “Minsk”. The first, second ... Twentieth. How many need them? At least a hundred, but if art hollows every day, but we really can’t do anything, because we are tied hand and foot with this Minsk. And do not say that "if you wanted." Many wanted, and where are they now? That's right there, in the place of last registration.
And believe me, anyone who starts blathering off-topic today will be addicted tomorrow. Either the termination of the contract and the prospect of a free civil life, or ...
Plus, your still incomprehensible gestures in the "top". We have nowhere else to look like Russia. We are looking. And we do not see anything. And when they began to say that they would also chop off humanitarian aid, many actually dropped their hands.
Here, by the way, this is a very delicate question. No one has seen this humanitarian aid for a long time, it goes through state institutions. Good, but what is the prospect? In the hospital with their grubs and medicines? Hello, to school and kindergarten children too?
With drugs, and so is not a fountain. No, in pharmacies if something is not, then everything will be brought to you. There would be money. The only question is whether they are. Although you want to live - not so raskoryachishsya. Verified
Disappointment? Yes, and it is also. This all did not arise yesterday, it was accumulating for a long time. Well, we can not give us the mind, so they would say - guys, everything, the shop is over. Thanks to everybody, you're free. And so - and not alive, and not dead.
Many questions in my head are sitting, for which we all abandoned and went to war. Yes, and I have. I didn’t go for a good life, I already had it quite for myself, better than many. And I could sit in Soledar, even “Glory to Ukraine!” It would not be necessary to shout, there were only three such specialists of us. Stayed there alone.
And not even for all the movements. For the children. I want them to grow in a normal country. Citizens, but do not understand who. Yes, we recognized our passports, so what? As was the reservation, and remained. I can buy a car in Russia ... Well, I can. What's next?
Yes, I do not need it, I want the children to live normally, so if I myself so much idle for it. No regrets, not for a moment, believe? Repeat all - one hell, would throw everything and go against these. Just if he knew that everything would turn out this way, he would have fallen down before.
Well, I am such a person, I want children to grow up and learn. Without choosing from what remains, but what they want. And not just learning, you know. It is also necessary to develop. And the sport is right there, and art, for example.
And, most importantly, I want them to be Citizens of the State. And not living on the reservation behalf of the Minsk agreements.
I am not a coward. When standing there. Where were our positions, you know who to ask. Not afraid. From the basement I did not need to knock out after the shelling. And now I'm not particularly afraid. Yes, I have no relatives in Russia, nothing. For the money will help. The main thing for me is to arrange the documents and get to Iletsk. I spoke with the local, introduced myself, listened to me and said - you, most importantly, get to us. Everything will be fine. They heard that I was special in Gorlovka and Kramatorsk equipment. And I am a specialist, and good.
And stubborn. I'll get it.
It’s just that no one has any faith, either ours or yours, that we will have at least a little better. Although no one promises. You are constantly crying about the "plum", on the other hand joyfully rubbing hands. Who to believe?
And ours simply thresh the shovel. They are all fine. They ate all those who could, now you can live for your own pleasure.
By the way, I also want to. But since boltology has not been trained, then ... What I can do is what will come in handy. As a fighter I, of course, your not a couple, and old already. But how to get the salt right and adjust the mills - I can do that. So I will be on the principle of "everyone - his own." Someone contracts and agreements, someone combines and mills.
But daughter with boys will live. I went to fight for it, leaving a good feeder. To live as they want, and not as they say from Kiev. Not on the reservation, but in a normal country.
Why do we need you like that? Where are we going? How much more will this experiment go? How many more will we have to die in positions? Well, after all, even I understand that these Minsk ones are just a meat grinder for Donbass. Slow is grinding. For a little bit.
But after all, sooner or later everything will end, if you do not change everything as it should. I understand that you will not win the war, sitting in the trenches in defense. On our one gun there ten. On one of our fighters there, too, more.
And we sit, do not twitch. Back it is impossible, everything, came. Forward, too, is impossible, the Minsk clowning does not allow, and you know yourself who. You can sit and die. Without any perspective, if this idiocy does not consider it.
I myself like everything, a ticket to a quiet life was issued. For others who are not so lucky as I hurt. For those who died and still die. And these are people, just people whom someone sacrificed to some of their own interests. Well, I am not strong in politics in order to understand and realize everything.
But this life is also not life. Or leave, tell me honestly, Donbass is not needed. All then go to Russia. The population will be raised, and we still have a lot of specialists. Under Kiev we will not go exactly. Yes, and there will be, like me in one place, drooling dripping with joy.
But something needs to be done. It's not too late yet.
* * *
Afterword.
I had nothing to answer, nothing to say. Yurka spoke for three hours, I knew a lot of what I heard and so much turned out to be new. For now, probably worth keeping silent. I am also not a politician, I also don’t understand much about Donbass today. But I listened to him as if from the whole of Russia, and laid out something from his confused story here. Much really is not worth publishing.
Yes, the topic of Donbass is not so worried about the people of Russia as it was three years earlier. Indeed, a lot of blood has flowed. But I just can not listen too. Partly because he himself was in the subject, and still for me it is not a stranger. And because I respect the choice of Yuri. And because I agree with him from the beginning to the end.
Almost - this, of course, is said not quite correctly. Of course, there is a difference. And a couple of years in a not quite cozy world took their toll, but most importantly - extinct eyes and emptiness. All Novorossia or DNI ended for another fighter. Then go to the Ryazan region, where there are people who will help with citizenship, and then - the Orenburg region, where they are ready to take on the salary equipment equipment engineer in his main specialty.
21 has been working behind her back in Soledar, at Artemsoli. Forever lost everything that happened in Soledar, the broken apartment of his wife in Gorlovka and the burned down parental house in Zaytsevo. A year and a half in the militia of the DPR, a year in the Corps. Two fragments of mines in the Trudovskys and a bullet (thank God, at the end of it) in Yasinovataya.
That's how the former militia and the former humanitarian came together. Just "talk for life", nothing Yuri did not need from me, just had a great desire to speak out. Not just the first comer, but a person who understands a little more than those who simply draw information from the media.
I listened and was silent. And what could you say, ask about? I know everything (or almost everything). But - I am silent, because the time has not come yet to speak, and the same notorious "do not rock the boat." Then just give the part recorded monologue.
* * *
Nobody is going to rock the boat. Just leave the boat. For uselessness. The medical board, which at one moment recognized me as unfit, is so, a reason, no more. Just cut the umbilical cord. But the understanding that life ended here came even earlier.
Who really was in the Donbass, and not from the picture in the telly, he knows what we have going on. Yes, it was all: "spinning", looting, protection, redistribution of property. It was, no one will hide. And we sawed the base and handed over; don’t understand to whom, so that there was something to devour to the battalion and buy everything necessary.
Then it was no better. AND weapon with the equipment evaporated simply on an amazing scale, and the goryuchka dried out in tanks. Everything was. Lawlessness? Well yes. And what is surprising, who went to fight, they went to fight. Who knew how to steal - he took up this business. Not everyone is given, not everyone can.
All these political clashes we were sideways. Yes, commanders fought with politicians, commanders went into politics, politicians flooded to command. Normal mess like that.
And all this against the background of real war. Yes, for them, for you - the fading, then flashing again, but for us - the war.
Yes, there were some funny talks, some agreements, there were different clownery. That's just the war did not end for a day. And we were there, killed, every day they were killed.
You yes, surges issued when Givi with a motor scooter removed. And nothing that every day someone dies?
This Minsk ... Minsk, it is far, and the front line - here it is, side by side, in my former Gorlovka. Agreements, treaties and other nonsense, it is not for those who actually arrives. Clown dances in Minsk for those who do not know how to mine howls. They have nothing to do on the front end.
And while some are sitting under the shelling every day, others are politically active. The sense in which as in a blank cartridge. That is, the application can be found if you want. But better than combat.
There are many questions, but they are all clumsy. And ask sloppy, and the answers to them are the same direct.
We are simply killed by this “Minsk”. The first, second ... Twentieth. How many need them? At least a hundred, but if art hollows every day, but we really can’t do anything, because we are tied hand and foot with this Minsk. And do not say that "if you wanted." Many wanted, and where are they now? That's right there, in the place of last registration.
And believe me, anyone who starts blathering off-topic today will be addicted tomorrow. Either the termination of the contract and the prospect of a free civil life, or ...
Plus, your still incomprehensible gestures in the "top". We have nowhere else to look like Russia. We are looking. And we do not see anything. And when they began to say that they would also chop off humanitarian aid, many actually dropped their hands.
Here, by the way, this is a very delicate question. No one has seen this humanitarian aid for a long time, it goes through state institutions. Good, but what is the prospect? In the hospital with their grubs and medicines? Hello, to school and kindergarten children too?
With drugs, and so is not a fountain. No, in pharmacies if something is not, then everything will be brought to you. There would be money. The only question is whether they are. Although you want to live - not so raskoryachishsya. Verified
Disappointment? Yes, and it is also. This all did not arise yesterday, it was accumulating for a long time. Well, we can not give us the mind, so they would say - guys, everything, the shop is over. Thanks to everybody, you're free. And so - and not alive, and not dead.
Many questions in my head are sitting, for which we all abandoned and went to war. Yes, and I have. I didn’t go for a good life, I already had it quite for myself, better than many. And I could sit in Soledar, even “Glory to Ukraine!” It would not be necessary to shout, there were only three such specialists of us. Stayed there alone.
And not even for all the movements. For the children. I want them to grow in a normal country. Citizens, but do not understand who. Yes, we recognized our passports, so what? As was the reservation, and remained. I can buy a car in Russia ... Well, I can. What's next?
Yes, I do not need it, I want the children to live normally, so if I myself so much idle for it. No regrets, not for a moment, believe? Repeat all - one hell, would throw everything and go against these. Just if he knew that everything would turn out this way, he would have fallen down before.
Well, I am such a person, I want children to grow up and learn. Without choosing from what remains, but what they want. And not just learning, you know. It is also necessary to develop. And the sport is right there, and art, for example.
And, most importantly, I want them to be Citizens of the State. And not living on the reservation behalf of the Minsk agreements.
I am not a coward. When standing there. Where were our positions, you know who to ask. Not afraid. From the basement I did not need to knock out after the shelling. And now I'm not particularly afraid. Yes, I have no relatives in Russia, nothing. For the money will help. The main thing for me is to arrange the documents and get to Iletsk. I spoke with the local, introduced myself, listened to me and said - you, most importantly, get to us. Everything will be fine. They heard that I was special in Gorlovka and Kramatorsk equipment. And I am a specialist, and good.
And stubborn. I'll get it.
It’s just that no one has any faith, either ours or yours, that we will have at least a little better. Although no one promises. You are constantly crying about the "plum", on the other hand joyfully rubbing hands. Who to believe?
And ours simply thresh the shovel. They are all fine. They ate all those who could, now you can live for your own pleasure.
By the way, I also want to. But since boltology has not been trained, then ... What I can do is what will come in handy. As a fighter I, of course, your not a couple, and old already. But how to get the salt right and adjust the mills - I can do that. So I will be on the principle of "everyone - his own." Someone contracts and agreements, someone combines and mills.
But daughter with boys will live. I went to fight for it, leaving a good feeder. To live as they want, and not as they say from Kiev. Not on the reservation, but in a normal country.
Why do we need you like that? Where are we going? How much more will this experiment go? How many more will we have to die in positions? Well, after all, even I understand that these Minsk ones are just a meat grinder for Donbass. Slow is grinding. For a little bit.
But after all, sooner or later everything will end, if you do not change everything as it should. I understand that you will not win the war, sitting in the trenches in defense. On our one gun there ten. On one of our fighters there, too, more.
And we sit, do not twitch. Back it is impossible, everything, came. Forward, too, is impossible, the Minsk clowning does not allow, and you know yourself who. You can sit and die. Without any perspective, if this idiocy does not consider it.
I myself like everything, a ticket to a quiet life was issued. For others who are not so lucky as I hurt. For those who died and still die. And these are people, just people whom someone sacrificed to some of their own interests. Well, I am not strong in politics in order to understand and realize everything.
But this life is also not life. Or leave, tell me honestly, Donbass is not needed. All then go to Russia. The population will be raised, and we still have a lot of specialists. Under Kiev we will not go exactly. Yes, and there will be, like me in one place, drooling dripping with joy.
But something needs to be done. It's not too late yet.
* * *
Afterword.
I had nothing to answer, nothing to say. Yurka spoke for three hours, I knew a lot of what I heard and so much turned out to be new. For now, probably worth keeping silent. I am also not a politician, I also don’t understand much about Donbass today. But I listened to him as if from the whole of Russia, and laid out something from his confused story here. Much really is not worth publishing.
Yes, the topic of Donbass is not so worried about the people of Russia as it was three years earlier. Indeed, a lot of blood has flowed. But I just can not listen too. Partly because he himself was in the subject, and still for me it is not a stranger. And because I respect the choice of Yuri. And because I agree with him from the beginning to the end.
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