Putin: Works on IL-114 and PD-35 engine will be financed before the 2020 year

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Work on the Il-114 regional aircraft and the PD-35 engine will be financed not only in 2018, but also up to and including 2020, said Russian President Vladimir Putin.

We agree in this way: on an emergency basis, so to say, we financed these expenses from Rosneftegaz up to and including 2018, and 2019-2020 should be financed from the budget, and I agree with the Ministry of Finance
- Putin said. He called this work one of the priorities.

Putin: Works on IL-114 and PD-35 engine will be financed before the 2020 year


We need our own regional plane, otherwise we will always buy everything abroad in this segment. But we also need a powerful engine, we need PD-35. Many projects in aviation connected to this engine
- said the president.

The IL-114 is designed for regional transport. Designed by Ilyushin Design Bureau in the USSR. The construction of the machines was organized in the 1980-s on the basis of the Tashkent Aviation Production Association named after V.P. Chkalov, where it was released around 20 aircraft. On the instructions of the President of Russia, UAC began the program to modernize the IL-114 to provide Russian airlines with fully domestic-made cars with a capacity of about 60 passengers.

Engine PD-35 develop for wide-body long-haul aircraft, transmits RIA News.
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  1. +4
    23 September 2017 20: 19
    And until they put it on the wing, we will buy abroad. So the niche in the domestic market may slam.
    1. +8
      23 September 2017 20: 25
      Damn would be faster. That the IL-112 that the IL 114 aircraft are not very large, but have been pulling with them for several years already. As usual, the dates are shifted to the right again. request
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        1. +8
          23 September 2017 20: 52
          Quote: By itself
          Not moved, they promised you oath ... And if not, then as always-

          Yes, yes, it's all his fault Yes
        2. +12
          23 September 2017 21: 05
          Quote: By itself
          Not moved, they promised you oath ... And if not, then as always-

          And now let’s specifically, without slogans, where, when, did this person lie? Yes
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            1. +11
              23 September 2017 22: 23
              Quote: Gardamir
              what's this?

              I repeat the question of what he lied to, specifically?
              Video # 1 We reserve the right to intervene! Where is the lie?
              Video No. 2 Ukrainian troops washed their faces with blood! No? In the same way, our prosecutor’s office has opened thousands of criminal cases .... after some time the earth will burn under them! So where is the lie of Gardamir?
        3. +7
          23 September 2017 21: 57
          Quote: By itself
          Not moved, they promised you oath ... And if not, then as always

          Well, duck yourself help with the development of PD-35. Or a little fart?
        4. +12
          23 September 2017 22: 10
          Quote: By itself
          Or are you a mattress ... NATO traitor, hohlozhid Bendera?

          And you go and do ... once the mind chamber and little hands with you. And it was enough to set up a stupid post with a picture, but to think that to build a new engine for an airplane is not to knock on the clave, this is not about you. About you here are stupid pictures to put, yes, like on a fence, something, you think, very smart to write.
        5. +1
          23 September 2017 22: 41
          Or are you a mattress ... NATO traitor, hohlozhid Bendera?
          You can jog as much as you like, but at the same time, the development program should ALWAYS be and is taking place.
      2. +1
        23 September 2017 20: 47
        Say thanks to the Quality Control Department, which dive under everything that is possible. + VP - well, you need to work out some money. Orders, because not only civil ones.
      3. 0
        24 September 2017 15: 08
        It is necessary not only to finance, but then ask for it. They like to receive money from us, and the longer the better! ... Only then there are no guilty ones, for some reason!
    2. +2
      23 September 2017 20: 38
      It can shut down anyway: out of 18 operated, 2 have already crashed - 11%. About 10 dead in total.
    3. +1
      23 September 2017 21: 11
      And the niche may shut down with the presence of an airplane. A strong lobby of foreign manufacturers will try.
      Quote: samoletil18
      And until they put it on the wing, we will buy abroad. So the niche in the domestic market may slam.
  2. +1
    23 September 2017 20: 36
    Let’s bring aircraft to the domestic market! Nothing should prevent us from this, except for our internal enemies, which, however, we are able to deal with if we want! hi
    1. +8
      23 September 2017 23: 45
      Russia must fly its planes, and move them abroad, there are many admirers of Soviet / Russian aircraft. Redundancy is just a win-win.
      1. 0
        24 September 2017 10: 38
        Until this glorious event happens, we will walk
    2. +5
      24 September 2017 08: 50
      Quote: keeper03
      except our own, internal enemies, which, however, we are able to deal with if we want!

      That's it if we want. And if we want to, we must also be able to. Over the past 25 years, such a Western lobby has been nurtured, which is just awful. If only the president can push the idea of ​​engine and aircraft development with his own authority. Officials do not care, they don’t need to pay them for it. Boeings of Airbus and Bombard are a hundred times nicer, because they already exist and fly.
  3. +10
    23 September 2017 20: 39
    It seems that it is easier to resume production of the 160 than silt 114. The swan should fly as early as next year, and there is so much trouble with silt that it is horrible. Apparently, the lobby of imported aircraft is so effective that the issue of manufacturing a conventional propeller aircraft has been inhibited for ten years.
    1. +1
      23 September 2017 23: 31
      [B] [/ b]
      Quote: NEXUS
      Quote: By itself
      Or are you a mattress ... NATO traitor, hohlozhid Bendera?

      to build a new engine for an airplane, it’s not knocking on the clave



      Quote: VIN34
      the production of conventional propeller aircraft has been slowed down for a decade.


      Poor truth - mother, rushing somewhere just in the middle of these opinions ... And you can understand both what
    2. +4
      24 September 2017 01: 21
      Quote: VIN34
      It seems that to resume production of the 160 is easier than silt 114.

      what what what But Nitsche that IL114 in Russia was not made ??? fool fool fool now right now in the complex and solve the problem about production, about the engine, etc., etc. !!! request tongue tongue laughing laughing laughing
    3. 0
      24 September 2017 03: 39
      It seems that it is easier to resume production of the 160 than silt 114. The swan should fly as early as next year, and with silt there is so much trouble that horror


      So also for war it was always a priority and the demand from the performers is different.
    4. 0
      24 September 2017 04: 58
      It seems that to resume production of the 160 is easier than silt 114.
      You forget that the Tu-160 is part of our nuclear triad, and they do not spare money on this and the best of the best are working on similar projects.
      And IL-114 is certainly needed, but we can do without it, therefore, financing is not so plentiful and urgency is not so critical.
    5. +2
      24 September 2017 10: 41
      Just imported aircraft are cheaper to operate more economical and already have all the necessary certificates.
    6. +3
      24 September 2017 10: 45
      The main thing is their lobby in our government.
  4. +4
    23 September 2017 20: 46
    A plane is good, a marine patrol would be of it.
    1. +5
      23 September 2017 21: 26
      Quote: Bronevick
      A plane is good, a marine patrol would be of it.

      The flight complex “IL-114 aircraft laboratory” is designed for flight testing of the tested REO samples of aircraft, performing complex radar, photo and thermal imaging of the earth and water surface with high performance in real time, regardless of weather, time of year and day.
  5. +3
    23 September 2017 21: 02
    Interestingly, "I’ll agree with the Ministry of Finance" —that the decrees do not have force for the Ministry of Finance; .. ???
    1. 0
      24 September 2017 06: 59
      One must think that someone persistent still made his way up and the GDP, as usual, will be managed manually. And this is a good perspective on the result.
    2. +3
      24 September 2017 07: 33
      It was only with "Stalin's grandfather" that it was the other way around - an order meant execution. To do this, it is necessary to really shoot for non-execution, and not how Putin is sad to be silent.
  6. +3
    23 September 2017 21: 09
    The production areas in Fergana where they collected IL 76 and IL 114 were lost, but this is not a workshop for sewing underpants and T-shirts. To create again requires a lot of effort. As for TU 160, it is going where it was assembled in Kazan. Everything worked out, you just need to upgrade rather than re-create.
    1. +3
      23 September 2017 22: 32
      Dear Alexander 3, Fergana Mechanical Plant produced some components for the main production in Tashkent. At this time, a Boeing and Airbus Aircraft Warranty Service Center was created on its basis. Most of the space in Tashkent was given to railroad cars and tanks. There is a production of Mercedes buses . The final assembly workshop of the 84th is engaged in aircraft repair. Something about the little things on lease from different owners. The facts must be handled more carefully, otherwise it is inconvenient.
      1. +7
        24 September 2017 01: 27
        Quote: andrewkor
        Dear Alexander 3, Fergana Mechanical Plant produced some components for the main production in Tashkent. At this time, a Boeing and Airbus Aircraft Warranty Service Center was created on its basis. Most of the space in Tashkent was given to railroad cars and tanks. There is a production of Mercedes buses . The final assembly workshop of the 84th is engaged in aircraft repair. Something about the little things on lease from different owners. The facts must be handled more carefully, otherwise it is inconvenient.

        and what is wrong with the facts ?? what what what you yourself described the process of degradation from the production of aircraft to any (if I may say so) medium-intellectual products ... if yours did not go down to the screwdriver assembly !!! wassat wassat wassat tongue tongue tongue laughing laughing laughing
        1. +7
          24 September 2017 06: 50
          Dear Nikolai Grek, Alexspndra3 has a serious factual error in the first line of his comment about the assembly of IL76 and IL114 at the FMZ, and I drew the attention of him and other VO visitors to that. Yes, aircraft construction in Uzbekistan died, see my remark above, with this argue!
          1. +4
            24 September 2017 16: 48
            Quote: andrewkor
            Dear Nikolai Grek, Alexspndra3 has a serious factual error in the first line of his comment about the assembly of IL76 and IL114 at the FMZ, and I drew the attention of him and other VO visitors to that. Yes, aircraft construction in Uzbekistan died, see my remark above, with this argue!

            nuuuuu ... here current if "the devil is in the details" !!! request request request wassat wassat wassat but in fact the plant was related to aircraft construction !!! but right now no !!! feel feel feel
        2. 0
          24 September 2017 07: 03
          Dear Nikolai Grek, with TAPOiCH, there was not degradation, but complete destruction as an airline, it no longer exists in nature. At FMZ, AMZ, there was a complete re-equipment of modern equipment according to their new profile, the same is expected of TMZ. Yes, aircraft construction, the high-tech industry, but what do you think should be done since it didn’t work out? Ask Kurganmash how they have technology. I’m sure that car building will pull other industries as well and the localization of production will be much more complete.
  7. +3
    23 September 2017 21: 57
    Interstate graters destroyed TAPOiCH, since 1990, no matter how much 114 x riveted and cheap. And now the plane needs to be translated into numbers, more composites should be used, as with IL 476! And time goes by, competitors have long been ahead, Canada, Brazil.
  8. 0
    23 September 2017 21: 58
    To be honest? I’m sure that “some offices” send money to where this engine should never be. You can’t even break it, one replacement of one digit in the temperature of the blade is enough for a long-term trial.
    Remember the darkest speech? As soon as he announced that the grandmothers were putting a brake on the construction of port facilities in the Baltic, the construction sped at the pace of the Komsomol scale!
    1. +9
      23 September 2017 23: 50
      Or maybe it is necessary as Peter I said: nettle seed once every six months with peeling on the heels with sticks? And construction sites will become a Komsomol scale
    2. 0
      24 September 2017 09: 00
      Quote: APASUS
      To be honest? Then I’m sure that "some offices" send where grandmas should be so that this engine has never been

      Absolutely no doubt about it. Given the "honesty" of our "partners" for which all methods of competition are good (in fact).
  9. +1
    23 September 2017 22: 01
    funded not only in 2018, but also until 2020 inclusively,
    Why spend money on elections if everything is decided? Or continue to play democracy?
  10. +2
    24 September 2017 02: 12
    First of all, Medvedev’s estates, but then planes.
  11. +1
    24 September 2017 05: 07
    But we also need a powerful engine, we need PD-35. Many projects in aviation related to this engine.
    Engines should always be a priority, and they determine whether a country is an aviation power. Many can do airplanes, but the engines of only a few countries and it is very important that Russia be one of them.
  12. +1
    24 September 2017 06: 08
    Good news!!
  13. +1
    24 September 2017 10: 28
    Why does this supposedly “regional” aircraft have a low-wing design? After all, regional aircraft should be designed to land on unpaved strips, so the engines and propeller blades should be located as far from the ground as possible! Take the same An-24, or Bombardier - they have a high-wing wing!
    1. 0
      24 September 2017 10: 47
      And because the designers back in the USSR were not focused on the consumer and not on the airline. And now, even if this miracle is brought up, it is not at all a fact that airlines will buy it without administrative arm twisting.
    2. 0
      24 September 2017 17: 25
      Quote: Lgankhi
      Why does this supposedly “regional” aircraft have a low-wing design?

      Low wing, so it has higher flight characteristics compared to high wing. Plus it’s much easier to maintain the wing, tail and engines (maintenance cost).
      Quote: Lgankhi
      After all, regional aircraft should be designed to land on unpaved strips, so the engines and propeller blades should be located as far from the ground as possible!

      Dirt runways are rural-level sites. They type L-410 or AN-2 should be operated. For a regional airdrome, there should be concrete for anyone, albeit much narrower and shorter.
      1. 0
        24 September 2017 23: 38
        Scary you are far from the people! Yeah, in every Uryupinsk there is a concrete strip. Yes, in 95% of the regional centers of northern and Far Eastern villages and towns with a population of 3-10 thousand people, where regular flights from the regional center are carried out, the strip at the airfields is unpaved. On the An-2 and L-410 fly to small villages with a population of 500-1000 people, they deliver passengers to the regional centers, and from there people fly to the regional center on the An-24 or Bombardier. I live in Yakutia, we have 34 administrative districts, 24 of them have 25 airports, concrete stripes are only in 5 airdromes, not counting of course Yakutsk, and this is because 3 airdromes are located in more or less large cities by Yakut standards and direct flights to Moscow and other Russian cities are carried out from there, one airfield to Tiksi, it was built by the military for strategic bombers, and one was built in Vilyuisk in the 80s, because the first secretary of the Yakut Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic was then from Vilyuisk, so pleased home district.
        Quote: Genry
        For a regional airdrome, there should be concrete for anyone, albeit much narrower and shorter.

        For a regional, you mean a regional center? Aw! So in all regional centers since Soviet times, concrete strips are everywhere, in Anadyr, in Yakutsk, in Magadan.
        1. 0
          25 September 2017 09: 38
          It seems at first they wrote normally.
          But here you somehow contradict yourself and then are unhappy. Regional plane, you see, you have to fly to the villages ...
          Quote: Lgankhi
          For a regional, you mean a regional center? Aw! So in all regional centers since Soviet times, concrete strips are everywhere, in Anadyr, in Yakutsk, in Magadan.


          Quote: Lgankhi
          Why is this supposedly "regional" Does the aircraft have a low-wing design? After all, regional aircraft have be designed to land on unpaved stripes
          1. 0
            25 September 2017 11: 46
            Do you distinguish a "regional plane" from a "regional center"? In fact, from Moscow to Vladik 10 hours fly, it is longer than from Moscow to New York, to which it takes only 9 hours to fly. A regional plane is a plane that flies within a region and connects regional cities and towns with a regional center.
            1. 0
              25 September 2017 15: 30
              You confuse regional and local. Local and must fly to all remote places, with unpaved strips, without equipment and maintenance.
              1. 0
                25 September 2017 21: 54
                That is, for you B-757 with 200 passengers and a range of 10 thousand km, connecting Vladik and Moscow, is this a regional plane?
                1. 0
                  26 September 2017 08: 54
                  And you have not heard about long-range / medium / near-haul aircraft ??? And the fact that the runways can be of different lengths, widths and with different equipment? Can airfields / airports / landing sites be with different services for airlines?
                  It’s sad with you ... very much!
                  1. 0
                    26 September 2017 09: 29
                    Quote: Genry
                    And you have not heard about long-range / medium / near-haul aircraft ???

                    This classification is for ordinary people. In the professional field, airplanes are divided into categories A, B, C and D. You do not even know this, and you are getting clever.
                    Quote: Genry
                    Can airfields / airports / landing sites be with different services for airlines?

                    Putting an equal sign between the airfield and the airport is generally a pearl wassat ! All pearls pearl!
                    1. 0
                      26 September 2017 10: 05
                      Quote: Lgankhi
                      airplanes are divided into categories A, B, C and D

                      How are vitamins?
                      Quote: Lgankhi
                      Putting an equal sign between the airfield and the airport is generally wassat pearl! All pearls pearl!

                      And where is the equality? Mention, listing ...
                      Well, it raced over the bumps ... And you specifically said that:
                      Quote: Lgankhi
                      B-757 with 200 passengers and a range of 10 thousand km,

                      He is not far-distance ...
              2. 0
                26 September 2017 09: 38
                Quote: Genry
                You confuse regional and local. Local and must fly to all remote places, with unpaved strips, without equipment and maintenance.

                Local air lines are connected by An-2 and Mi-8, they fly according to PVP - the rules of visual flight. Whereas the An-24 and Bombardier fly on the IFR - instrument flight rules. That is, local air lines (MVL) connect small villages with a population of 500 to 1500 people with regional centers, and from there people fly to the regional center on An-24 and Bombardier. An-2 and Mi-8 fly on areas no higher than 3000 m, according to the rules of visual flight, they do not set an autopilot and do not sleep like pilots of An-24 and above. In these small villages there is no airport, there is no AMSG, there is no KDP, the An-2 and Mi-8 pilots themselves visually choose which side to take to the field, while at the airports they receive meteorological information from the AMSG and instructions from the KDP dispatcher to take the course, which monitors it on the radar and ensures flight safety by regulating the movement of aircraft.
                1. 0
                  26 September 2017 09: 57
                  That's right!
                  No questions!
  14. 0
    24 September 2017 13: 16
    For Ken71.
    Aviation (both military and civilian) develops only if there is a serious state
    support. There was no other way anywhere and never.
  15. +1
    24 September 2017 13: 46
    In the system of the same "Gazprom", you can make almost eternal pipelines and gas pumping stations, process RVS almost all the equipment. But this will never happen in the current system. Indeed, the concern contains a bunch of bad officials that are distributing huge amounts of money for all kinds of repairs.
    In general, the Russian Federation is a country built on total theft. So draw conclusions - can an innovative revolution happen in it ...


    From a story about RVS and ITVP technologies ... And by the way. where is the PS-90? The correct answer is ... de! laughing tongue wassat
    1. +2
      24 September 2017 17: 37
      Quote: Dzafdet
      almost permanent pipelines and gas pumping stations can be made, RVS can be processed on almost all equipment.

      Treat your brain, otherwise it already suffers from blockage of blood vessels ...
      Quote: Dzafdet
      In general, the Russian Federation is a country built on total theft. So draw conclusions - can an innovative revolution happen in it ...

      Is this a “revolution” from a school essay?
      Quote: Dzafdet
      And by the way. where is the PS-90?

      With defrosting you! Already PD-14 is being launched into production, and you're all about the ancient engine whimpering. The training manual is out of date? - shove it to yourself .... in your correct answer!
      1. ZVO
        0
        24 September 2017 18: 00
        Quote: Genry

        With defrosting you! Already PD-14 is being launched into production, and you're all about the ancient engine whimpering. The training manual is out of date? - shove it to yourself .... in your correct answer!


        Tell us the airplane models. for which PD-14 will be produced ...
        Also tell us where the previous, widely advertised PS-90 was going ...
        1. 0
          24 September 2017 20: 47
          Quote: ZVO
          Tell us the airplane models. for which PD-14 will be produced ...

          Yak-242 (better known as MS-21), IL-76 modifications (remotorization PS-90A-76 and D-30KP), Tu-204/214, IL-86/96 ...
          Quote: ZVO
          Also tell us where the previous, widely advertised PS-90 was going ...

          First, where was it widely advertised?
          And it is used - see the list above. It was supposed to be on the Il-214. But more PS-90 was not lucky with airplanes but in gas pumping, as a highly efficient compressor. Here reliability is more important than profitability.
          1. ZVO
            0
            25 September 2017 12: 48
            Quote: Genry
            IL-86/96 ...


            PD-14 will not be placed here. He is too weak.
            On the IL-476 - exactly the same.
            On the MS-21 - there will be several engines to choose from. the main one will be Pratt / Whitney ...
            Tu-204 - not produced.

            very widely advertised. Through all channels the ears hummed. about 15-20 years ago.
            1. 0
              25 September 2017 16: 21
              Quote: ZVO
              PD-14 will not be placed here. He is too weak.

              Look at the characteristics of PD-14M (boosted to 16 tons of thrust). or PD-18R (18-20 tons added gearbox with a large fan diameter)
              Quote: ZVO
              Quote: Genry
              IL-86/96 ...

              On the IL-476 - exactly the same.

              In exactly the same way ... On the IL-76, it generally stood and stands at 13 tons.
              Quote: ZVO
              On the MS-21 - there will be several engines to choose from. the main one will be Pratt / Whitney ...

              They came up with the "main" one. It depends on the choice of the customer. Where is it more profitable and closer to hand over engines for repairs. And the American - it is a gearbox, it requires frequent scheduled repairs of this gearbox.
              Quote: ZVO
              Tu-204 - not produced.

              You think so ... you think badly.
              Quote: ZVO
              very widely advertised. Through all channels the ears hummed. about 15-20 years ago.

              The phrase "across all channels" already smells of shit ... You can’t specifically - then there’s nothing to balabit about!
              1. ZVO
                0
                25 September 2017 19: 44
                Quote: Genry
                The phrase "across all channels" already smells of shit ... You can’t specifically - then there’s nothing to balabit about!


                Stop lying ...
                PD-18 is a myth. which does not exist even on paper.
                Already your lies and balabolstvo ...
                PD-14M is the second myth. Which also does not exist, since another 2 years before the launch of the usual PD-14. Which is still already. with a delay of 10 years, they won’t start anything.
                so again this is your lies and balabolstvo.
                About Tu-204/214 - one plane a year - is it really produced?

                If you are so short of memory. maybe you’re so young that you don’t remember. a bunch of laudatory articles and reports about the PS-90A, then I can only sympathize with you ...

                so ... you’re our dreamer in the form of shit, slap ...
                1. 0
                  26 September 2017 09: 37
                  Quote: ZVO
                  PD-18 is a myth. which does not exist even on paper.

                  Eccentric, this is the same PD14, only with a large gear fan.
                  Other models of the series (PD-7, 10, 12V) differ in the turbine formula, there will be a lot of design work.
                  Quote: ZVO
                  PD-14M is the second myth. Which also does not exist, since another 2 years before the launch of the usual PD-14. Which is still already. with a delay of 10 years, they won’t start anything.

                  And "M-ka" has practically no structural differences from the standard, but the firmware of the controllers is different.
                  10 years (from 2008) before release is a normal period for such a project. Show where they do it faster from scratch. Balabol ....
                  Quote: ZVO
                  About Tu-204/214 - one plane a year - is it really produced?

                  Does unit production exist? So let out! Though boil your brains, but there is a fact! Tip: do not mess with lawyers, you have little with actual perception, you will be in ...
                  Quote: ZVO
                  If you are so short of memory. maybe you’re so young that you don’t remember. a bunch of laudatory articles and reports about the PS-90A, then I can only sympathize with you ...

                  so ... you’re our dreamer in the form of shit, slap ...

                  Your species: gomno_spapiens
                  1. ZVO
                    0
                    26 September 2017 09: 51
                    Quote: Genry
                    Quote: ZVO
                    PD-18 is a myth. which does not exist even on paper.

                    Eccentric, this is the same PD14, only with a large gear fan.
                    Other models of the series (PD-7, 10, 12V) differ in the turbine formula, there will be a lot of design work.
                    Quote: ZVO
                    PD-14M is the second myth. Which also does not exist, since another 2 years before the launch of the usual PD-14. Which is still already. with a delay of 10 years, they won’t start anything.

                    And "M-ka" has practically no structural differences from the standard, but the firmware of the controllers is different.
                    10 years (from 2008) before release is a normal period for such a project. Show where they do it faster from scratch. Balabol ....
                    Quote: ZVO
                    About Tu-204/214 - one plane a year - is it really produced?

                    Does unit production exist? So let out! Though boil your brains, but there is a fact! Tip: do not mess with lawyers, you have little with actual perception, you will be in ...
                    Quote: ZVO
                    If you are so short of memory. maybe you’re so young that you don’t remember. a bunch of laudatory articles and reports about the PS-90A, then I can only sympathize with you ...

                    so ... you’re our dreamer in the form of shit, slap ...

                    Your species: gomno_spapiens


                    Again...
                    PD-18 - does not exist, even in projects.
                    PD-14M - also does not exist. even in projects.
                    PD-14 is the essence of the relabeled forced PS-12. So it remained unclaimed.
                    Is the controller firmware different? . go to school. Keep reading children's fairy tales about chip tuning for Lada Sedan.
  16. 0
    24 September 2017 17: 00
    What a news! I can’t even believe that Putin himself moved it.
  17. +1
    24 September 2017 17: 33
    Hopefully, it doesn’t mean to have. Sadly everything. What the fuck is 35? You’ll build at least PD-14. You don’t tear your navel over.
    1. 0
      24 September 2017 20: 52
      Quote: VERESK
      Hopefully, it doesn’t mean to have. Sadly everything. What the fuck is 35? You’ll build at least PD-14. You don’t tear your navel over.

      You just explode on the go ... Did you manage to get there?
      1. ZVO
        0
        25 September 2017 19: 48
        Quote: Genry
        Quote: VERESK
        Hopefully, it doesn’t mean to have. Sadly everything. What the fuck is 35? You’ll build at least PD-14. You don’t tear your navel over.

        You just explode on the go ... Did you manage to get there?


        And what isn’t it?
        The country can not find money for one fine-tuning PD-14 ...
        Do not forget. that she, our country, spends about 5-7 times more on "product 30" ...
        Which also cannot be done on schedule ...
        Already 6 years late.

        And if you remember. that there was still such a minister, Ivanov. who promised the commissioning of PAK-FA in 2013. Accordingly, with the engines.
        At the beginning of the PD-35 project, there is no more money, therefore, investors are always looking for who are ready to invest.

        Stop living in an alternative universe, Operator No. 2 ..
        1. 0
          26 September 2017 20: 31
          Streamline, ZVO
          1. ZVO
            0
            27 September 2017 05: 09
            Propaganda brigades. do not forget to "log in" ....