Warsaw to switch from Russian to “politically safe” gas by 2022

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Poland is going to refuse to buy gas from Russia by 2022, when the Russian-Polish gas contract expires, because it does not want to be under "gas" pressure from Moscow, like Ukraine and Belarus, said Polish Foreign Minister Witold Vashchikovsky.

Around 2022 of the year the contract that the prime minister (Waldemar) Pawlak signed with the Russians will end
- transmits his words RT. Pawlak was premier from 1993 to 1995 year.



Warsaw to switch from Russian to “politically safe” gas by 2022


Vashchikovskiy noted that by this time Poland will already have the opportunity to import from “politically safe destinations”, which will not be for the country a “political instrumental impact”. According to him, Russia in recent years has thus put pressure on Ukraine and Belarus.

I expect that then the LNG terminal at Swinouste will be fully commissioned and expanded. We will also build a Baltic pipe to the waters of the North Sea.
- he noted, adding that Poland will be able to import the resulting gas to neighboring countries. How much the country will cost such financial adventures, the foreign minister modestly kept silent.

Previously, the Minister of Energy of Poland Krzysztof Tkheuzovsky declared his intention to terminate a long-term contract with Gazprom. At the same time, the representative of the Polish government on strategic energy infrastructure, Peter Naimsky, noted that "it would be unwise to make some tough statements now on what the country will do in 2023 year."
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  1. +22
    22 September 2017
    Warsaw to switch from Russian to “politically safe” gas by 2022
    why not tomorrow?
    1. +15
      22 September 2017
      why not tomorrow?
      while there is no money request
      1. +13
        22 September 2017
        They’re looking badly, let them learn from the horses. lol
      2. +4
        22 September 2017
        Quote: pjastolov
        why not tomorrow?
        while there is no money request

        So them and then there will be no money laughing
        1. +4
          22 September 2017
          But, according to Gorbaty (aka Gorbachev), dependence and debt obligations (consider slavery) to the democratic US will deepen and expand.
          1. +2
            22 September 2017
            laughing doubted
          2. +1
            22 September 2017
            Quote: Slovak
            But, according to Gorbaty (aka Gorbachev), dependence and debt obligations (consider slavery) to the democratic US will deepen and expand.

            The answer is simple: there is a sausage around the SP-2. Psheks will have an alternative: to buy expensive American LNG for no more than three to four years (there will not be enough American stocks for more) or a little cheaper from Germany (it’s also Russian). Well, they can be quite expensive in Lithuania (it will also be American with a Lithuanian margin).

            Something like this. Well, figs with them.
            1. KAV
              +2
              22 September 2017
              We will also build a Baltic pipe to the waters of the North Sea.
              And they will extract gas directly from the North Sea water! Funny such ...
              1. +3
                22 September 2017
                The Foreign Minister speaks for economic affairs - this is more likely not funny, but stupid.
                Not Poland to decide, but Russia. Moscow is already in 19-20 .. can just chop off pumping, because:
                1. Poland did not sign an agreement with Gazprom on supplies after 19.
                2. The direction w / s Ukraine to Poland will be closed so in 19g. and Gazprom is not going to renew, only Belarus will be left. But with the introduction of S.P-2 and Turkish P., it is possible to close the transit of Belarus to Poland.
                3. Judging by the whole of Eastern Europe, gas will be received by transit, and Western Europe will be bypassed along the bottom of the sea. And here is a splinter in the form of Ukraine, through which transit will be closed. It turns out that Vos.Europe will be underpowered already from the age of 19, and Belarus is simply not enough. Only the Czechs managed to secure themselves by building a gas pipeline from Germany. hi
                So the Pole must still live to 22g .. laughing. LNG will only increase the cost of Polish goods, as energy will rise in price, and as a result, everything else, too.
                1. 0
                  24 September 2017
                  Quote: Kasym
                  Polish goods

                  Sweaters and cosmetics?
              2. +1
                23 September 2017
                Quote: KAV
                And they will extract gas directly from the North Sea water! Funny ones.

                North Sea, maps of mineral deposits (gas, mainly)

                only there, of course, and without Poland, crowded and hungry


    2. +14
      22 September 2017
      Poland is going to abandon the purchase of gas from Russia by 2022, when the Russian-Polish gas agreement expires,


      Five years later ... "felts donkey, felts padishah", but someone may not survive.
      1. +10
        22 September 2017
        Political chatter. They stuff the price for themselves, but they try to bring down gas.
        1. +9
          22 September 2017
          Their USA is pressed to the full, so that they would start buying liquefied from America, but the price ...
          1. +7
            22 September 2017
            a flag in their hands, a pipe around their neck ... Drown faster
            1. +5
              22 September 2017
              Quote: Slovak
              a flag in their hands, a pipe around their neck ... Drown faster


              Such a substance does not sink ... lol
      2. 0
        22 September 2017
        Quote: cniza
        Five years later ... "felts donkey, felts padishah", but someone may not survive.

        The dead will be replaced by others who will be even worse. Therefore, today it is necessary to decide how to do without Polish transit.
    3. +2
      22 September 2017
      Even if the US Polish puppets switch to safe clubs, they still don’t face concussions, they don’t have their own, you can save on helmets.
      1. +9
        22 September 2017
        Yeah! Poland will pump Ukrainian safe gas, Ukraine - Lithuanian, Lithuania - Polish ... To protect this breakthrough, let them produce gas for themselves ... belay from apples ... lol
      2. +7
        22 September 2017
        because he doesn’t want to be under “gas” pressure from Moscow
        A good Pole knows whose pressure is sweeter.
        The Pole is not a nationality, this is a profession.
    4. Maz
      +9
      22 September 2017
      Beads toss. As soon as they put the hub in Germany, the Germans will gobble up the Poles economically.
    5. +20
      22 September 2017
      Poland intends to abandon the purchase of gas from Russia by 2022, when the Russian-Polish gas agreement expires

      By that time you will buy from Germany, by that time, in spite of all the troubles, they will complete the "Nord Stream 2". Then you will have the chances and remember all the reparations and at the same time Danzig. wink
      1. +3
        22 September 2017
        That is exactly how the USA will not help them.
      2. +2
        22 September 2017
        Quote: 79807420129
        By that time you will buy from Germany, by that time, in spite of all the troubles, they will complete the "Nord Stream 2". Then you will have the chances and remember all the reparations and at the same time Danzig.

        Poland has long been time to reduce to one of the Cracow Voivodeship, otherwise they grabbed territories at the expense of Russia, and the bastards of the tail are also being raised.
    6. +4
      22 September 2017
      Like in a Soviet school joke: "- That's it! I’m starting a new life from Tuesday! - And why not from Monday? - And on Monday they will show a film about spies!"
    7. +1
      22 September 2017
      Vashchikovskiy noted that by this time Poland will already have the opportunity to import from “politically safe destinations”, which will not be for the country a “political instrumental impact”. According to him, Russia in recent years has thus put pressure on Ukraine and Belarus.

      Give up now! The more you consume, the more dependent on Russia!
      Want to depend on LNG supplies from the “non-politicized” States ?!
      Oh well ! A flag in your hands and a drum around your neck!
    8. +4
      22 September 2017
      Quote: Dead Day
      Warsaw to switch from Russian to “politically safe” gas by 2022
      why not tomorrow?

      per day do not ruin the economy, to drastically reduce consumption !!! lol lol lol
    9. 0
      23 September 2017
      Let even your ears frostbitten, to the evil of Moscow!
  2. +6
    22 September 2017
    Ass gas
    1. 0
      22 September 2017
      Hardly ... He said: "from a politically safe direction!" And this "direction" to the campaign is the most dangerous.
  3. +8
    22 September 2017
    Gas from Pigsties is a very colorful name for a gas hub. laughing laughing
  4. +2
    22 September 2017
    Quote: Dead Day
    why not tomorrow?

    ----------------------------
    In general, it had to be done yesterday. laughing
  5. +6
    22 September 2017
    I understand that in order to become "politically safe" gas will have to answer the question correctly
    "Whose Crimea"
  6. +7
    22 September 2017
    Like Ukraine with coal. More expensive, but politically loyal ...
  7. +2
    22 September 2017
    And in Russia, are all villages gzofitsirovany?
    1. +5
      22 September 2017
      And in Kazakhstan?
      1. +1
        22 September 2017
        Quote: forester
        And in Kazakhstan?

        Not all, we try not to sell our gas to the left, we are not competitors to GAZPROM, although part of it belongs to us through Kaz Munai GAZ, we have already invested in the region of 20 lard.
        1. +3
          22 September 2017
          Now even in gardening they offer to fail. True wiring for gardening at the expense of its members.
          1. 0
            22 September 2017
            Quote: Topotun
            Now even in gardening they offer to fail. True wiring for gardening at the expense of its members.

            But what's the problem? Although someone retired in a high, an apartment for children and grandchildren can be given, not at all laughing , or officially take it, at least as much as a penny in the pensioner's budget.
            1. KAV
              0
              22 September 2017
              And you may ask, why are you so worried about our pensioners? Do you have your own, or what? Or have you already solved all the problems of your retirees?
              Besides ... are they lying to the news?
              Quote: marshes
              here we try not to sell our gas to the left, we are not competitors to GAZPROM

              Since 2017, Kazakhstan plans to export gas to China
              https://liter.kz/ru/articles/show/29399-kazahstan
              _s_2017_goda_planiruet_eksportirovat_gaz_v_kitai
              KazMunayGas Joint Stock Company - agreed with Gazprom on the volume of Kazakhstani gas supplies to Russia for 2017
              https://regnum.ru/news/2229980.html
              Is this not selling gas to the left?
              1. 0
                22 September 2017
                Quote: KAV
                And you may ask, why are you so worried about our pensioners? Do you have your own, or what? Or have you already solved all the problems of your retirees?

                They don’t live in poverty and those who live in villages are considered rich by local standards. But it’s strange when withdrawing money from a public bank, many pensioners buy foreign currency or put it in cities.
                Quote: KAV
                Since 2017, Kazakhstan plans to export gas to China
                https://liter.kz/ru/articles/show/29399-kazahstan
                _s_2017_goda_planiruet_eksportirovat_gaz_v_kitai
                KazMunayGas Joint Stock Company - agreed with Gazprom on the volume of Kazakhstani gas supplies to Russia for 2017
                https://regnum.ru/news/2229980.html
                Is this not selling gas to the left?

                So from that same year, see the surplus appeared.
      2. 0
        23 September 2017
        Here they are, they will go over to the handshake Latin alphabet and EVERYTHING itself will be gasified;)
    2. +4
      22 September 2017
      Quote: marshes
      And in Russia, are all villages gzofitsirovany?

      No ... Not all Miller's hands reached out ... Where there is no gas, they are drowned with Polish coal and Ukrainian wood ... lol
    3. +3
      22 September 2017
      Quote: marshes
      And in Russia, are all villages gzofitsirovany?

      This is impossible in principle, because the costs of maintaining highways will exceed income from consumption.
      1. 0
        22 September 2017
        Quote: Gray Brother
        This is impossible in principle, because the costs of maintaining highways will exceed income from consumption.

        Yes, it’s understandable, although they are stealing from us, they are trying to convey gas to the population, given that firewood is needed for kindling coal and there are no forests.
        About five years ago I connected, expensive but now it’s high. And there was a program that switched to gas from solid fuel because of the ecology in the city. We found money on the mains, took it only for connection. Now in the city with ecology it’s a little better. So the program continued to develop soon the entire region will be gasified.
        1. +4
          22 September 2017
          Quote: marshes
          .A there was a program that converted to gas from solid fuels because of the ecology in the city.

          So in the city ... The city is a completely different matter, there are many consumers, everything will pay off there.
          1. 0
            22 September 2017
            Quote: Gray Brother
            So in the city ... The city is a completely different matter, there are many consumers, everything will pay off there.

            In our country, all the villages have been optimized, where there are no 2 gas populations, there’s no reason to spend it, in a few years the village will disappear. There will be farmers living like them, a hacienda farm. And it’s right, the people who work will remain and the rest part of the population will live in a comfortable regional center, with all the benefits.
            It’s a fig that people here voluntarily resettle, without compensation from the state, although this program can be developed by assigning expenses to transnational commodity corporations.
            1. +1
              22 September 2017
              We have about 5 years ago, gas was pulled to almost every village in the Kiev region, people threw stoves ... Since last year, the father-in-law has gas payments per month in the winter - like three of his pensions ... Look, the gas was not a cheap temptation!
              1. 0
                22 September 2017
                Quote: Fayter2017
                We have about 5 years ago, gas was pulled to almost every village in the Kiev region, people threw stoves ... Since last year, the father-in-law has gas payments per month in the winter - like three of his pensions ... Look, the gas was not a cheap temptation!

                Yes, you all of Ukraine was practically gasified, which led me into a stupor. If we take into account that gas was extracted from us and we were heated by coal and dung.
              2. +4
                22 September 2017
                Quote: Fayter2017
                We have about 5 years ago, gas was pulled to almost every village in the Kiev region, people threw stoves ... Since last year, the father-in-law has gas payments per month in the winter - like three of his pensions ... Look, the gas was not a cheap temptation!

                laughing laughing laughing it’s a lure, but simply the consequences of the rule of your Eurointegrators !! lol lol lol
            2. +3
              22 September 2017
              Salaam to the border guards hi . A CHP 1, in Tashkent closed?
              1. +1
                22 September 2017
                Quote: LiSiCyn
                Salaam to the border guards. A CHP 1, in Tashkent closed?

                CHPP 1 has been working on gas for ten years, yesterday PAPA ordered the Burundai CHPP-2 to switch to gas. So that the entire private sector in the city and in the nearest suburb was on Gaza.
                1. +5
                  22 September 2017
                  This is a huge plus for the environment. good . NAS is just handsome, at that age .. May God grant him health and longevity. He saved Kazakhstan and was able to make a real Country out of it. The only leader in the early 90's who achieved something !!
                  1. 0
                    22 September 2017
                    Quote: LiSiCyn
                    This is a huge plus for the environment. NAS is just handsome, at that age .. May God grant him health and longevity. He saved Kazakhstan and was able to make a real Country out of it. The only leader in the early 90's who achieved something !!

                    I can agree that he spent a lot of time in the city. There were no road crossings, the traffic jams disappeared, in shock. Bazars and shopping centers worked. Not so much, officials were advised to use public transport. laughing And then it turns out they with families occupy a third of the population of the city.
                    ATA is not the capital and is no longer the regional center, so it is necessary to further withdraw civil servants and institutions to the periphery. laughing
    4. +5
      22 September 2017
      Quote: marshes
      And in Russia, are all villages gzofitsirovany?

      not!!! but it’s worth considering the area of ​​Russia !!! tongue tongue tongue fellow fellow fellow
      1. 0
        22 September 2017
        Quote: Nikolai the Greek
        not!!! but it’s worth considering the area of ​​Russia !!!

        So we have not a small population but less.
        Here they’ll take Altai, they want Gazprom to transfer a pipe to China, it’s physically impossible to just transit through Mongolia or Kazakhstan, intermediary countries are not needed, but they have forgotten how many shares of GAZPROM KAZMUNAYGAZ have, that the transit of a penny will not only be possible and gas the villages of Altai and East Kazakhstan along the way China expects no desire to invest its money, but it has already spent three pipelines from Turkmenistan through us, the fourth will be soon.
  8. 0
    22 September 2017
    The Polish flag in their hands, let them buy "politically safe" in three ways. There’s a lot of mind, it’s already seen climbing over the edge! fool
  9. +2
    22 September 2017
    Vashchikovsky noted that by this time Poland will already have the opportunity to import from “politically safe areas”

    There is already experience with coal. So we conclude an agreement with the Hudson Hawk company and with the words: “let's get them all, and right now” we will arrange the supply of the right gas. They will drive the trough out of the puddles.
    1. +2
      22 September 2017
      Quote: TOR2
      . They will push the necessary trough out of the puddles.

      Yes, you can take anything, you just need to take priests from the sect of the US Congress on board - they will declare gas democratic and that’s it.
  10. +2
    22 September 2017
    I suggest they get gas from the atmosphere of Jupiter !!!! lol
    1. KAV
      +1
      22 September 2017
      Something very far, you sent them ... laughing Let's, at least, from the bowels of mercury, eh? drinks
  11. NKT
    0
    22 September 2017
    it will already have the opportunity to import from “politically safe directions”, which will not turn out to be a “political instrumental impact” for the country. According to him, Russia in recent years


    from politically-licked directions ....
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    1. 0
      22 September 2017
      Yes, this is helium.
  13. +10
    22 September 2017
    .......................... With 4.00.
  14. +2
    22 September 2017
    It’s high time to transfer the Poles to “political gas”, and let them feed on “holy spirit”.
  15. +8
    22 September 2017
    Dumb. What "pressure" do Russia mean? Russia has never made any demands on them. Simple: the cheapest gas in exchange for a regular payment. And that’s it.
    1. +2
      23 September 2017
      Gas - they want, payment - no.
  16. +2
    22 September 2017
    Well, let it be heated with fart gas in the winter, what will happen to this politician in 2022, no one knows, the main thing is to blather, how to fart in a puddle!
  17. 0
    22 September 2017
    Economic issues, private business issues, are decided by politicians, the administration of the country, while they argue that a market economy exists.
  18. +1
    22 September 2017
    Judging by his gaze, he is ready to produce as much gas as the country requires.
  19. +4
    22 September 2017
    And you don’t give a damn who they will buy energy from? Workers will not increase money (rather, decrease). Discussing foreign policy when excise taxes increase in the domestic market is blasphemy. They hang up noodles about the fall of a barrel, but in the domestic market, oil products are getting more expensive. Maybe grab this noodles, you guys stupidly dashed off again. I work in the defense industry, and once again we were kind of “motivated”, they added a handout from the government for a whole 1000 rubles, the salary was increased.
    1. +4
      22 September 2017
      Quote: Armata
      but in the domestic market, petroleum products are becoming more expensive.

      I heard that the excise tax was shoved for road needs. The people may not hear that there will be an increase in goods, they will write off the cost of the barrels and the machinations of enemies, and so the liberals will remember laughing Christmas tree sticks at Zhirik liberal party laughing
      By the way, your gasoline in Kazakhstan is much cheaper than yours. Although few people move to 95, our 92 does not greatly destroy the engines, they survive until the proposed overhaul.
    2. +1
      22 September 2017
      And the barrel is growing - there are more and more typhoons in the USA.
  20. 0
    22 September 2017
    It remains to wish the Poles that there is enough Vaseline, each will contribute. It will turn out in a European way.
  21. 0
    22 September 2017
    In 2022, Poles will buy gas from the Germans and Ukrainians from the Poles. Glory to the European Union.
  22. +1
    22 September 2017
    I remember the Americans donated chicken legs for nothing. After a couple of years, it turned out that all the chicken factories were ruined.
    Free cheese is always in a mousetrap!
    1. 0
      22 September 2017
      Quote: APASUS
      I remember the Americans donated chicken legs for nothing. After a couple of years, it turned out that all the chicken factories were ruined.

      When was it? Although the prices were not adequate cheap. Although how.
      1. +1
        22 September 2017
        Quote: marshes
        When was it? Although the prices were not adequate cheap. Although how.

        The prices were very reasonable, and they helped a lot in those difficult times, but it was thanks to dumping that the Americans destroyed the entire Russian chicken production.
        1. +1
          22 September 2017
          Quote: APASUS
          The prices were very reasonable, and they helped a lot in those difficult times, but it was thanks to dumping that the Americans destroyed the entire Russian chicken production.

          The cyanosis was grown, relatives of Marie El Kuzhiner worked at the poultry farm, but because of the American chickens the factory died, some washed over to the other world, but half-dead chickens were raised there, given the low cost of feed.
          At the moment, we grow chickens for ourselves, in the spring we buy a couple of dozen chickens, it’s American broilers. But it’s amazing that they have chicken legs under 1,5 kg. For more than 4 months they pull under 6 KG and a minimum of fat. Yes, in the poultry farm after 60 days they slaughter, so that they would have a little more than 2kg in weight, otherwise they will not be able to buy "rogue" and this is the main consumer of chicken meat.
          It all depends on the selection, since the year 94 we don’t buy eggs and chicken meat, although retail food is not cheap but the bird pays for itself.
  23. +1
    22 September 2017
    The Nord Stream gas pipeline goes from Russia to Germany. What is not clear, they will buy (buy) Russian gas from their friends - Germans, only more expensive, because he will be with a "brotherly German" mark-up. Yes, Russian gas is much cheaper for them, as well as their relatives, for Ukrainians, so they will buy (buy Russian) at 10-15% more, but they will have a good friend and partner.
  24. 0
    22 September 2017
    100% they will switch to German gas.
  25. 0
    22 September 2017
    It’s clear, because apples cause flatulence wassat
  26. +5
    22 September 2017
    I’m very interested, but does he himself believe that he is bored?
  27. 0
    22 September 2017
    As a result of games with gas and oil valves, many have now abandoned Russian oil and gas. They punished themselves. And in the US, shale oil and gas will now replace Russian. With a commodity economy, this is tantamount to suicide.
    1. +1
      22 September 2017
      Quote: Snowball
      As a result of games with gas and oil valves, many have now abandoned Russian oil and gas. They punished themselves. And in the US, shale oil and gas will now replace Russian. With a commodity economy, this is tantamount to suicide.

      And what about Friday, Venus appeared in your horizon, and September 22? By the way, Happy New Year! Rosh Hashanah!
      I wish all the best.
      1. +1
        22 September 2017
        From me to you.
      2. +1
        22 September 2017
        And thank you too! smile
    2. +1
      22 September 2017
      many who is this? Ukraine?))))) the Baltic states?)))) and now where do they get it?)))) oil and gas?))) and at what price?))) there are answers to such questions or just blurted out for the sake of blurt out?
  28. 0
    22 September 2017
    Of course it will! And not because he is politically safe, but because the Big Boss said so! Do not hang noodles on your ears to anyone!
  29. 0
    22 September 2017
    Quote: Egorovich
    I’m very interested, but does he himself believe that he is bored?

    And why should he believe that? He said he got the calculation, and there, even if the gas is not burning, he’s got a drum ... Like the over-ripe apple tree ...
  30. 0
    22 September 2017
    Quote: zulusuluz
    100% they will switch to German gas.

    Yeah, reverse! Svidomo saloids proved that it is cheaper!
  31. 0
    22 September 2017
    Why wait then? Can we help the former allies in ATS and turn off the gas earlier?
  32. 0
    22 September 2017
    Quote: 1536
    It’s high time to transfer the Poles to “political gas”, and let them feed on “holy spirit”.

    Right! And to introduce for these ... from a rainbow union, the concept is Political Gas! Smart buy from Russia, fools produce Political !!! Need to remember!
  33. 0
    22 September 2017
    they are switching from propane to methane. I knew it...
    Exercises West 2017 contribute. Well, production facilities are always in the ass. The catalyst in Kaliningrad is also available.
  34. +2
    22 September 2017
    To what extent Germany has strained after such statements ... Ukrainians are announcing the cessation of purchases of Russian gas, now the Poles, while all including the Baltic states, are sabotaging JV 2, which will allow Germany not to depend on the tricks of these non-fools.
  35. +1
    22 September 2017
    Well, just the northern flows will be .... here they will be politically right to resell from the Germans
  36. 0
    22 September 2017
    Poland will already be able to import from “politically safe areas”
    Apparently from the shelf of the "Belarusian Sea" good Well, maybe giant deposits will be discovered in Germany, as for example in Slovakia wink
    1. 0
      22 September 2017
      Quote: rpuropuu
      Apparently from the shelf of the "Belarusian Sea" Well, maybe giant deposits will be discovered in Germany, as for example in Slovakia

      At the expense of Germany, they wouldn’t get involved in shale, it’s possible according to their geo-structure, a nephew studying in Germany to “whisper” at the expense of the BASF concern.
      1. +2
        23 September 2017
        They will be engaged in shale - to kill nature and water in the bud. ... they already tried there, and in Ukraine too - it didn’t work out and people didn’t give.
      2. NKT
        0
        24 September 2017
        In Germany, hydraulic fracturing is prohibited
  37. +5
    22 September 2017
    "... Tkhuzhevsky ..."

    Interesting surname. Thuj is a rabbit or a coward. Masked Yaytsenyuh?
  38. +2
    23 September 2017
    Yes, idiocy is a contagious disease ... now, apparently, will Poland buy gas from the great gas producing country of Slovakia? Or maybe Turkey or Italy? ... In general, it’s scary interesting to look at the procedure for determining which gas is “politically safe” and which is not! ... But if the "politically safe" turns out to be "flammable", well, then then were you born?
  39. 0
    23 September 2017
    I completely agree with him, let them buy Shshpevsky. without pants, but with politically beneficial gas ... it's certainly cool. but ... then do not ask Gazprom to supply gas, it will cost a cent cheaper than from the United States.
    1. 0
      23 September 2017
      As a result of games with gas and oil valves, many have now abandoned Russian oil and gas. They punished themselves. And in the US, shale oil and gas will now replace Russian. With a commodity economy, this is tantamount to suicide.


      Are you so sure If Russia has Ukraine, the Baltic states and Poland as a minus, then Turkey and China as a plus. China alone outweighs all! But this is not all - when the West tries to present the refusal of small mongrels from Russian gas as some kind of achievement and cite as an example the creation of infrastructure for LNG in Poland and the Baltic States, they completely deliberately ignore the creation of the same infrastructure in Russia! The entire Pacific region in the medium term will be at the feet of Gazprom, since no one needs difficulties with logistics, the Germans proved it, the most pragmatic people of Europe as it turned out. Such things, Snowball.
      1. 0
        23 September 2017
        I will continue. The aggregate demand for gas from the stubborn (Ukraine, the Baltic states and Poland) compared to the aggregate demand of China and the Pacific is simply zilch. But energy, this is not only gas, now more and more contracts with Russia are signed by countries for the construction of nuclear power plants. The West is silent as well, because it understands that it lags behind very much. I do not believe that the so-called alternative energy will allow to increase my potential to at least 50%, since this is not so environmentally friendly, requires large maintenance costs, and takes up huge spaces. A nuclear power plant is a compact complex. Russia has developed unique floating nuclear power plants where it can be delivered there. No one has that. The recent earthquake in Mexico showed that if it was stronger by one point, the country would be in ruins, in such cases mobile nuclear power plants can provide timely and stable supply of capacities in the most critical period, no one can offer this except Russia. In the future, Russia will continue to amaze the West with its energy innovations, surprising its enemies, it is only a matter of time. Who did not manage to offend, I apologize. See you later.
  40. 0
    23 September 2017
    Optimists. It is hoped that by 2022 there will still be this misunderstanding on the map
  41. 0
    23 September 2017
    Yes, in my RF, even when waging a war with Europe, it will sell them gas.
  42. 0
    24 September 2017
    Quote: marshes
    And in Russia, are all villages gzofitsirovany?
    Е

    By the way, for villages, in our city gas is more problematic and more expensive to extend than in a village). It happens that you look at huts, with huts, a couple of streets, and they are heated with gas, moreover, with the help of burners inserted in the oven.
  43. 0
    24 September 2017
    Oh, it seems to me that we are selling too much gas and oil to Geyropa ....
    Let them warm themselves with fart steam ... and the Poles - first of all.

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