Iran has shown a new ballistic missile

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Iran introduced a ballistic missile with a range of two thousand kilometers capable of carrying several warheads, the TV channel Press TV with reference to Brigadier General Amir Ali Hajizadeh.

Iran has shown a new ballistic missile




The rocket with the name Khorramshahr was presented during a military parade in Tehran, which was attended by Iranian President Hassan Rouhani and high-ranking military personnel.

Earlier, Rouhani said that the country intends to strengthen the capabilities of the missile complex. According to him, "no country" will prevent Tehran from strengthening its missile potential.

Iran’s missile program causes a sharp backlash from the United States. So, Washington added 18 organizations and individuals to the list of sanctions on Tehran’s missile program. Rouhani said the country could withdraw from the nuclear agreement if the US continued to expand sanctions. Also, the Iranian parliament allocated 520 millions of dollars to develop its own missile program in response to US restrictions. RIA News.
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  1. +4
    22 September 2017 11: 19
    If not a fake, then this is bad .... I never believed fanatics of a religious nature.
    1. +16
      22 September 2017 11: 32
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      If not a fake, then this is bad

      Why bad? request What is bad is that NATO cannot do what it did to Iraq, Libya, Yugoslavia, is it bad that the country can protect itself. request
    2. NKT
      +10
      22 September 2017 11: 36
      You are afraid of fanatics, but there is no only country that has used nuclear weapons against civilians twice, and which has no moral principles.
      1. +4
        22 September 2017 11: 46
        The Soviet Union would have used nuclear weapons in the Second World War if it had been acquired on time.
        1. +7
          22 September 2017 11: 58
          Quote: Anglorussian
          The Soviet Union would have used nuclear weapons in the Second World War if it had been acquired on time.

          negative fool The Soviet Union didn’t use any chemical weapons, even during the most difficult periods (it was enough), and even when the threat was significantly reduced .... they were only able to use it (well, you understand who I mean) ... hi
          1. +1
            22 September 2017 12: 07
            It was well aware of the serious potential of the chemical industry of the Reich. I had no mind to cross the line. Why would the USSR not use a bomb? (if it were?). And what root did the Americans have to spare the Mikado subjects?
            1. NKT
              +6
              22 September 2017 12: 20
              This is all fortune telling on coffee grounds. But it’s enough to see that during the Second World War the USSR did not arrange carpet bombing of German cities as the Allies, England and the USA did, although it had every right to do everything that Germany did with its cities and villages. Okay, England, it can still be understood (Germany was the first, albeit by accident, to miss and throw bombs on civilians), but the United States, on the territory of which not a single bomb fell, cynically dropped two nuclear ones on the civilian population of Japan. And their cynicism did not disappear anywhere in the 21st century.
              1. +3
                22 September 2017 12: 26
                had every right
                But the fleet of bombers suitable for this was not attached to the law. Here is the answer.
            2. +1
              22 September 2017 12: 26
              Quote: Anglorussian
              Why would the USSR not use a bomb? (if she was?)

              It is precisely because the less lethal weapons and methods of use (Intimidation of the state destroying its civilian population) did not apply ... request
              Quote: Anglorussian
              And what root did the Americans have to spare in Mikado subjects?

              Yes, this is the essence of the image. Both you and America, they did not spare their native population, and remember colonization, but you shouldn’t explain it to you ... your essence is not entirely human ... request
              1. +1
                22 September 2017 12: 45
                yes it’s not worth explaining to you ... your point is not quite human
                Explain this thesis. And it turns out that you yourself have invented an advantage over everyone else. But everyone else who does not have this advantage will not understand it.
                Not turning the tide of the war, having the opportunity is stupidity, for which hundreds of thousands of soldiers will die. Stalin was not stupid. Then they didn’t keep fools at all.
                1. +1
                  22 September 2017 13: 02
                  Well, if the above is not clear .... request
                  1. +1
                    22 September 2017 13: 07
                    No. This nonsense reminds me of the tales of sectarians about their own enlightenment.
        2. NKT
          +1
          22 September 2017 12: 03
          History does not tolerate subjunctive moods. There are simple facts. The USA applied, but the USSR did not.
          1. +2
            22 September 2017 12: 29
            To apply what is not there is somehow difficult. wassat
            1. +2
              22 September 2017 12: 34
              No one argues that it was not there, and you begin to imagine "if it were, they would apply." Finish talking nonsense. They have already clearly explained everything to you. stop
              1. +2
                22 September 2017 12: 38
                Nobody explained anything to me-everyone smears snot and repeats about the humanity of the Union and the evil essence of the United States.
                1. +1
                  22 September 2017 13: 17
                  And you repeat about the philanthropy of the states that dropped the philanthropic bombs, without any military purpose and about the evil essence of the Union that did not, but would certainly do if I could. Well, who looks dumber? Finish, and ....
                  1. +1
                    22 September 2017 15: 32
                    Well, who looks dumber?
                    You do, Mr. Newage Yes Do not overdo the arguments. I am trying to explain that victory for my soldiers at all costs is right. And that the USSR is no worse than the United States. And you suffered spirituality. Go American flag, burn in the yard, or something. tongue
                    1. +2
                      22 September 2017 16: 36
                      Victory for their soldiers at the cost of the life of a peaceful man is fascism. And the American actions of warfare, by dropping these bombs on a peaceful people, are no different from the Germans' warfare (their pranks in the occupied territories and practical cooking of soap from the Jews, well, why, war is an economy ...). But the latter were condemned for this, and these guys seem to be winners, and they are not known to be judged. And you begin to tell fables about the terrible scoop that would do the same. To say so, at least study the topic, otherwise your knowledge on the subject below the plinth. Go kiss the American flag and don’t be bullshit. Your engagement is visible with the naked eye of Mr. Anglorussian. Yes
      2. +2
        22 September 2017 11: 53
        Both Iran and the DPRK will certainly strive to create and improve their own missile systems and nuclear forces, and the United States and its "peace-loving policy" are to blame.
    3. +1
      22 September 2017 11: 39
      Calm down, the Persians are fanatics last but the hegemonic hemorrhoids are always an asset of a practicing physician.
  2. +3
    22 September 2017 11: 24
    With what they fought, they ran into something. The DPRK example is contagious. It seems that the global hegemon has truly lost its authority and respect - and that's good!
    1. +7
      22 September 2017 11: 37
      That's what Iran is touching again, they signed the treaty even under Obama, it’s bad, good, but it’s fulfilling, even Mogirini recognized from the rostrum the UN is fulfilling, no! - it’s necessary to arrange a striped mess again near Iran! The ex-minister of state defense is right (I don’t remember my name, but all the "exes" see clearly after retirement!), "... you need to bomb 2 square miles between the White House and Congress ..." !!!
    2. 0
      22 September 2017 11: 37
      Quote: mayday
      The DPRK example is contagious.
      And everyone remembers the unenviable fate of Saddam, Gaddafi and their countries.
    3. 0
      22 September 2017 11: 44
      Perhaps if the impudent Anglo-Saxons did not stick their nose into other people's affairs (in the sense of a country), then fewer countries would spend on creating missiles and nuclear weapons, in the hope of defending themselves from annoying carriers of democratic ideas
  3. +2
    22 September 2017 11: 40
    We have always had enough fanatics.
    So nothing to blame the mirror.
    People there themselves want to determine the future of their children, as we do.
    Shtatniks have already announced the possibility of a simultaneous (in fact) destruction of an entire state.
    Already used nuclear weapons in cities with a civilian population.
    Used and are now using (for example, in Syria phosphorus munitions) other prohibited weapons.
    Destroyed a number of states in the Middle East and plunged the entire region into chaos.
    They brought into the world and fed the hydra of world terrorism.
    With a machine gun and even a tank against such a monster can not stand.
  4. +2
    22 September 2017 11: 40
    The performance becomes more interesting ... DPRK, Iran- trololo..lo-lo-lo
    1. 0
      23 September 2017 17: 04
      In Chinese, listen :)
  5. +1
    22 September 2017 11: 41
    From behind the forest, from behind the mountains, Iran showed an ax bully
  6. 0
    22 September 2017 11: 56
    US foreign policy, aimed at subjugating the Americans of all countries of the world, especially those smaller in their economic potential, encourages the latter to develop and implement programs for their defense. This program includes the rocket program of Iran. If the US continues to "dryad" Iran, then this program will move into the nuclear missile phase. The US is driving itself into a trap.
  7. +4
    22 September 2017 12: 10
    It’s already completely clear: BR is the weapon of the poor. Who is not able to create and maintain effective air forces, will switch to rockets. Cheap and cheerful. BR will be more
    “offended” leaders and weak countries, they will be thrown around more and more often.
    The way out is only a strong missile defense. Not like it is now, but with elements in space.
    1. 0
      22 September 2017 12: 50
      Nobody has aviation before, and BR can be counted on the finger. So poverty has nothing to do with it. And this is not a substitute for each other, as Comrade Khrushchev has already proved with his idiotic reforms. And missile defense with elements in space, this one today is just as fantastic as it was during the Reagan "SOI". Moreover, both politically and technically.
      1. 0
        22 September 2017 14: 55
        Quote: Michael Newage
        And missile defense with elements in space, this one is just as fantastic today

        That combat satellites, that one hell missile intercept blocks are sent to the target by the same ballistic carriers wassat
      2. 0
        24 September 2017 20: 39
        if the British closed the border and didn’t let the Europeans go there because of the Schengen they would be immediately asked to exit the EU and put in return cardons
        There are cardons. EU citizens are checked for them, foreigners who do not have the right to enter are sent away. I repeat, Britain is not in the Schengen area and we need a British visa (or something else legal). In Ireland, exactly the same way, by the way, despite their EU membership. In this way, the Britons control the entry themselves. This does not touch the refugees in any way - they are illegal in any case, and they can only come by legalizing somewhere else. What is the EU? What is the UES-their inheritance-illegality. The reason for the exit is primarily the need for expensive (and constantly paying). If you don’t know, just shut up, do not persist. And yes, I recommend traveling at your leisure.
        1. +1
          25 September 2017 00: 29
          Have you been banned? laughing ? What did you change your nickname? You would have answered me in a different topic a week later, accidentally saw your post ... Everything is folding, but you avoid the answer to two questions that are yours theory They put cancer on a post already:
          1) The exit referendum was launched exactly after the flow of migrants, and not after the proserts of the Greeks of polymers. The difference between these events is 6 years. And do not hope to blame it on the British bureaucratic apparatus. Or you will continue to carry nonsense about "well, 15 years ago they wanted to go out and it's just a coincidence."
          2) At your place under La Manche NOW is organized TOTAL shmon All cars and if I suppose a German is on a car with EU numbers, can I get into a British shit without a British visa without stopping and showing off the docks? And with the shaving numbers? And if you don’t get there (well, you never know, your border is like a demilitarized zone, 38 parallels as you describe to me laughing ) how difficult will it be for me to make this visa with a German passport and still enter the country?

          Come on native, it’s very interesting to listen to something you squeeze out ...
    2. 0
      22 September 2017 14: 50
      Elements in space

      Why is the badly praised THAAD? Kim showed what this missile defense is really worth?
    3. +1
      22 September 2017 14: 51
      Quote: voyaka uh
      It’s already completely clear: BR is the weapon of the poor.

      Warrior, stop freaking out wassat This is the pinnacle of weapons technology. Moreover, it does not stand still, and also develops. And a quasi-ballistic trajectory, and maneuvering hypersonic blocks, and means to overcome missile defense. They are the carriers of the most powerful charges on the planet (until they make Status-6). BR carriers are applied to poverty, in particular nuclear submarines, a high-tech guidance base is added, including deployed satellite constellations, etc. etc.
      1. 0
        22 September 2017 14: 59
        Status requires an underwater positioning system. This is a very complicated and expensive thing and not the fact that it will pay for itself.
        1. 0
          23 September 2017 08: 34
          Quote: Arzoo
          Status requires an underwater positioning system. This is a very complicated and expensive thing and not the fact that it will pay for itself.

          No, not needed. The inertial system with satellite correction is almost the same as that used in ICBMs and even simpler. Inertial does not require ascent and external indication. And for correction, a passive antenna can be raised to get coordinate, it is possible in the form of a buoy and when obtaining exact coordinates, course correction. However, this is absolutely and not necessary because the power of the weapon is such that not only a deviation of several meters, as for conventional weapons, deviations of hundreds of meters and a few kilometers, like ICBMs, is not scary, but deviations of tens of kilometers, if not hundreds, mean nothing, tsunamis and infection do not affect individual cities, but the coast with dozens of major cities however belay As they say, you need to get not into the city (like ICBMs), but into the country belay
      2. +2
        22 September 2017 15: 02
        Do not stop a Jew from being proud of his aircraft from American planes bought with American money. laughing
        1. 0
          24 September 2017 11: 35
          I can say, Mr Sewage, that I have long had British citizenship. Latvian is also left. After another 2 years, I can get French (married to a Parisian woman). I will make a collection tongue . They thought they had to separate from the EU in England for about 15 years, at least, only how do you know this, you go and read English newspapers. How the border of Russia with one of the NATO countries is protected, I know well from my own experience that a truck can be overtaken by forest roads good (with gasoline). It is necessary to get into England with tricks. But in Northern Ireland there are practically no borders, just a sign. Farmers often have land on both sides of the border. (I’ve been and seen) Intelligence from you is just ...
          1. +1
            24 September 2017 15: 10
            It’s your intellect and rushing that you mixed up the topic and answered a lot of British passport subject you are ours laughing . Where exactly did the truck drive? Border with Norway, presumably? Do you know that it mostly passes through the water, and the rest is well guarded? Are you so stupid that you didn’t look at the card before ringing? But I personally am aware of the lack of borders with SI, just someone blunt did not catch sarcasm, but it all happens. What tricks do you need to use to get a fabulous clown in the English Channel? Enough to carry nonsense ... I don’t know what they wrote in the yellow British newspapers, it’s better to read the fence, but 15 years ago the euro just appeared and the EU was only expanding, another fact is that you are an emigrant in your mouth, what kind of a way out? One could say with the same success that they wanted to leave right after entry, but well, they were always dissatisfied with ... but they stirred only with a stream of emigrant garbage, one more fact in your mouth. Glad for your passports, it is not clear what you are doing so democratized in this forum. Vali at the forum of his shave and there practice sharpness about intelligence, hamloe English. There in your stories about driving trucks with gasoline (just don’t say that you drove him в Russia, where gas is cheaper laughing ) believe, but here you look like a clown negative .
            1. 0
              24 September 2017 17: 33
              The border with Latvia. Gasoline was taken there. When the EU was only expanding, the Britons began to think that they did not belong there (in principle, the economic union as such did not suit many.
              to drive to shaving by car
              You need to have the documents in order, otherwise neither you nor the car will get into the tunnel. (By the way, did you use the tunnel? I used to go once a week)
              better to read the fence
              Obviously you won’t have enough brains for more.
              1. +1
                24 September 2017 17: 49
                Do you have enough brains for a clown? Smuggled gasoline in Latvian forests? What are you proud of emigrant? I told you already, you will communicate in this style, go to the forum of your European homosexuals. What do you not specifically understand? Or do you have a homesickness that you pissed here to shit? Understand, you and your fairy tales are not interesting to me. And talking to you, emigrant worthless, I have no desire. You and I live in parallel worlds and don’t prove anything to each other, it’s just that you came here, and I don’t roam about the British forums. Everything shut at last, I wish your carcass a pleasant life in shaving with the money of smuggled gasoline, Alcapone unfinished ... negative
                1. 0
                  24 September 2017 17: 58
                  I told you already
                  Yes, I do not care about your will.
                  What do you not specifically understand?
                  Wow, this is the beginning of a highly intelligent conversation laughing . Are you sitting on the courts with a beer-kiosk?
                  I'm not hanging around the British forums
                  Still would. Foreign for this you need to know, but you are not very native.
                  1. +1
                    24 September 2017 18: 12
                    Dear what do you want from me? Do you insist that I dunk you further into your lies? Are you lonely and bored in your shaving? Or are you a troll who scribbles nonsense for a penny under a British proxy? What else can I tell you? Do not provoke me to be rude, let's stay with our own. I am with my opinion, and you are with your Russophobia, boredom and lies.
                    1. 0
                      24 September 2017 18: 15
                      I try to explain to you how pathetic you are in your ignorance. Do not write nonsense, do not try to pretend to be smart (you can’t tongue ) -and everything will be the way.
                      1. +1
                        24 September 2017 18: 29
                        Who are you, a smelly emigrant to explain something to me? Who gave you that right? Who told you that your opinion is the only true one and cannot be challenged? Who gave you the right to be rude to me and lie from the answer to the answer? You think you are credible to me and after your vyserov I will say "oh yes this guy was right" laughing ? What clever did you write that I thought so? Do you have docks checked with ALL drivers before you enter the tunnel worthless bullshit? The Briton leaves the EU and a lot of illegal immigrants who come to England with hares on trucks have nothing to do with it? Maybe stop lying already? We survived, a worthless emigrant shave who rummaged in smuggled gas will explain something to me on the RU forum ... Kanai from here ...
                    2. 0
                      24 September 2017 18: 47
                      a lot of illegal immigrants who are on trucks
                      Yes, they just do not care about the legal status of Britain, even in the EU, even in the USSR, they are illegal anyway.
                      Who gave you that right? Who told you that your opinion is the only true
                      As they say, the British do not give rights, they take rights. But I know that I’m clearly more than yours, so I can share it. Not greedy i Yes . I am just surprised at your stupid tenacity. Was he even abroad? Used the Eurotunnel? By the way, the fact that they need to go through the tunnel does not mean border control?
                      1. +1
                        24 September 2017 18: 59
                        You haven’t taken anything yet. You are the same powerless user as I am. Only the difference between us is that I caught you in your lies, and you, in return, brought up our, you began to be rude. Where are your British manners? In the Latvian SSR left them?
                        Britain does not care about its legal status. while they are part of the EU, they can’t close the borders and make a total noise. And the fact that chocks need to hide does not mean that you control something there, but that they do it illegally (they must be in some kind of smelly camp in Poland, at best) without documents and can’t just sit on ferry or buy a bus ticket. And to hide in a wagon, that’s all, hello Britain, no one there will check and search these cars. The only barrier is the long-distance drivers themselves who drive them with pissed rags. There is something to answer in fact to my stupid tenacity? Or will you continue to be rude and tell me that I don’t know anything because I was not an EU and did not go under the English Channel? Your aborigines give you nothing in terms of awareness. I don’t know what’s the matter here, in the brains washed by Western balabol, or inborn Russophobia.
                    3. 0
                      24 September 2017 19: 10
                      They can’t close the borders and make a total noise.
                      Britain is NOT in Schengen, and they can arrange a total shmon. And they are satisfied. You need one (at least once to see and participate yourself. (There was a time I went through the Eurotunnel once a week)
                      I caught you in your lies, and you answered
                      You do not know what you are talking about, but you think that others do not know. I repeat, I saw at least this train in real life? Crossed the border? Or is it more visible from afar? Yes
                      Aboriginality gives you nothing in terms of awareness.
                      Well, yes, you better know. Tell me again, the TFL dispatcher, how public transport works in London. wassat
                      1. +1
                        24 September 2017 19: 33
                        Do not la la, if the British closed the border and didn’t let the Europeans go there because of the Schengen, they would be immediately asked to leave the EU and put in return cardons. And today's Afghan lumps are tomorrow's citizens of Germany. The British understood this and were ahead of the curve. If it were in 2010 when Greece was dying in debt and a referendum on withdrawal would be held then, then yes, it would be a purely economic reason, and this is just the closure of borders.
                        Come on, I won’t write anything about the British because of my not being there, and you won’t open your mouth about Russia, because of my being here. I agree? And then remember how this debate began. Who started it and what country he started to joke about. All, I dispelled your Aboregen complexes connoisseur of British double-decker buses? Or will you continue to poke me your rotten argument "I know everything because I'm here"?
      3. +2
        22 September 2017 19: 56
        "This is the pinnacle of weapons technology" ////

        BR itself is a primitive. This is confirmed by the fact that even the most backward countries rivet BR.
        Between V-2 and Iskander - the minimum difference.
        But nuclear warheads, yes, more complicated. But the era of BR will inevitably come to an end. So many brains and resources have been thrown on missile defense that the result will definitely be (it already has 50% percent,
        but this is not enough, of course). No one in their right mind would trust their existence of chance: in what mood is some violent dictator with BR.
        Russia, by the way, is in exactly the same danger as everyone else. BRDS will now begin to sculpt all and sundry.
        1. +1
          22 September 2017 19: 58
          Quote: voyaka uh
          This is confirmed by the fact that even the most backward countries rivet BR.

          By backward countries you mean Israel lol
        2. +1
          23 September 2017 04: 14
          "Between V-2 and Iskander - the minimum difference."In Memoris laughing . And if you had something similar to Iskander, you would have praised him as an unrivaled Jewish prodigy laughing . Warrior, burn more. fellow
          1. +1
            23 September 2017 11: 55
            We have exactly such a piece of iron - Laura. Recently, the Vietnamese bought it to wet Chinese missile launchers. But I don’t brag to her. Nothing special.
            1. 0
              23 September 2017 15: 15
              You do not boast to her precisely because she is much closer to the FAA than Iskander in terms of characteristics laughing . They only have the same purpose, and the level is many times different. The one that you will discuss about the need and perfection, when your OTRK will look like Iskader, and not the FAA. laughing In the meantime, they really do not need any slag.
              1. +1
                23 September 2017 19: 33
                Well, if you really wanted to compare pieces of iron, then Laura throws the same weight of explosives at the same distance, having a much smaller dead weight, length, diameter. More precisely, she has a concrete warhead.
                All this is understandable: Iskander is a remake of the old Point, and Laura is a modern development. But both are simple technologies.
                1. +1
                  23 September 2017 19: 53
                  To the same distance? Where do you get your data from? Share a link? Here is what I found:
                  Iskander:
                  500 km Iskander-K (500 km with a cruise missile R-500, according to some sources up to 2500 km)
                  Laura:
                  250-300 km
                  And yet, does this your laura chassis have movable? Or ala fau 2 starts off the ground laughing ?
                  1. 0
                    23 September 2017 20: 01
                    Quote: Michael Newage
                    To the same distance? Where do you get your data from? Share a link?

                    Yes, where else can he get information except from Israeli manuals lol
                    And is it possible to talk normally with a person under the nickname voyaka uh who is absolutely sure that the M-16 does not need lubrication? laughing
                  2. +2
                    24 September 2017 10: 03
                    Laura is the complete symmetrical answer to Iskander.
                    As you can see, there is nothing special about Iskander. Laura flies 400 km in space at an altitude of 50 km.
                    LORA type: theater quasi-ballistic missile
                    Weight: 1.6-1.8 tons, Length: 5 meters, Diameter: 610 mm
                    Warhead: 570 kg high explosive, bomblets or high speed penetrator warhead
                    Operational range: 400 km
                    Flight altitude: 50 km

                    Guidance system: inertial navigation, GPS and TV terminal

                    LORA ("Long Range Attack") is a theater quasiballistic missile produced in Israel.
                    It has a range of 400 kilometers (250 mi) and a CEP of 10 meters (33 ft) when using a combination of GPS and TV for terminal guidance.
                    It can be ship-launched and land-launched.
                    1. +1
                      24 September 2017 15: 16
                      300 km your Laura smelly Jew flies, and Iskander 2500. Feel the difference and stop talking nonsense No. . Or come on link where it says otherwise. Do you know what a link is, or do you think it’s enough to write smart English words in a post and they will believe you? Plus, your worthless Laura does not have a mobile chassis, which means that she left the V-2 a little more than in terms of mobility and stealth. So end up talking nonsense. stop
                      1. 0
                        25 September 2017 00: 06
                        "and Iskander 2500." ///

                        2500 - so winged rocket. The same Caliber launched from the Iskander chassis. Caliber is no different from Tomahawk. Subsonic cruise missile. Both easily go astray fighters.
                        Laura is easily placed on the chassis. After all, four Laura weigh like two Iskander. Two Laura are placed on any chassis.
                        BR Iskander flies 500 km, BR Laura - 400 km. If you reduce the warhead, it will be 500 and easy.
                        If you have more questions, please contact hi sir wink
        3. 0
          23 September 2017 08: 25
          Quote: voyaka uh
          Between V-2 and Iskander - the minimum difference.

          RD-180 and NASA say it all, when a rocket superpower cannot refuse hostile imports for decades. And the difference, as between the Wright brothers biplane and f-35 wassat
          The BR destroyed promising types of weapons such as a combat laser, infrasound, and electromagnetic guns. For rocket weapons were more powerful, long-range, invulnerable and technically less devoid of flaws. Also, the rocket is practically completing the era of aviation and there will be no more manned combat aircraft. The pilot has an overload limit, no rocket. Therefore, an air defense missile is always stronger than an airplane. Powers is the first bell. f-117 in Yugoslavia - the second. Soon there will be a third and last, and our S-600 and S-700 systems will put an end to combat aviation (the prospect is that). The same anti-missiles and more advanced strike missiles will not allow the upstarts to blackmail the world order. Therefore, the missiles have a prospect, the limit has not been reached, neither in speed, nor in range, nor in height, nor in power, which can not be said about aviation where the limit in all respects was reached at the end of the 20th century. And an attempt to work with invisibility is agony and a dead end. Moreover, BRs also have a prospect for steel technology, however.
    4. 0
      22 September 2017 14: 57
      Quote: voyaka uh
      The way out is only a strong missile defense. Not like it is now, but with elements in space.

      Exit personally for you. In the sense, for Israel personally, a preemptive strike and the full occupation of Iran. Here is the only way out.
      1. +2
        22 September 2017 20: 00
        We do not need to occupy anyone. Some problems from this.
        But missile defense is the most important national task. But the Jews and Israel did not cope with such challenges.
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        2. 0
          23 September 2017 04: 09
          Lord, yes you are the same primitive little people as the Americans. Only even smaller and dumber. The mentality has become as narrow-minded already. Those also rush with their missile defense, but they can’t give birth to anything. Their national idea is "if you do not get it, you can do anything." That's why they need a missile defense. And you too. The Americans didn’t do it, and you don’t give birth to anything worthwhile ... also, the great Jews solve great problems. They squeezed a piece of land and defend it from monkeys with American toys. Do not make anyone laugh here with these bravura speeches of the warrior. You are better off talking to the layman about weapons. With this, as an ignoramus, you do better and do not look so stupid.
        3. 0
          23 September 2017 10: 35
          Quote: voyaka uh
          But missile defense is the most important national task

          As practice shows, opposing the laws of physics is a thankless task. Hypersonic missiles, which are an order of magnitude easier to create, reduce the effectiveness and expediency of missile defense to 0. Americans won’t gather them with lasers, realizing that an anti-missile for a hypersonic missile should reach a speed of 10-15 max and still hit. It stupidly burns in the atmosphere, this is not possible.

          Quote: voyaka uh
          But the Jews and Israel did not cope with such challenges.

          Alas, with all due respect. But with the development of AI, the need for good engineers will be greatly reduced and will disappear by itself. So after 20 years. A person will not be able to surpass the car, even a Jew.
          1. +2
            23 September 2017 12: 02
            "Americans won’t gather them with lasers, realizing that a missile for a hypersonic missile should reach a speed of 10-15 max." ////

            Should not. Shot down on a collision course. Forehead in the forehead. It is enough to be exactly on her course, and she herself is broken into pieces about the "killer". This is not a theory, there have been successful tests, but the overall test success is in the region of 50%
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              23 September 2017 12: 16
              The tests were carried out not on hypersound, but on conventional discs. For hypersounds, 50% will go to 5%. Well then.

              Then. To slow down, give a maneuver, and then again disperse - where it is technologically easier.

              This is the law of thermodynamics, voyaka uh, offensive weapons will always surpass defensive ones. Destroying is easier than building.
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                23 September 2017 17: 39
                The test was conducted on warhead (without filling) this ICBM. And she was
                destroyed by a direct hit in space with a combined warhead and "killer" missile speed of 25 MAX. And the latest anti-missile models launch into space a whole "bus" of such maneuvering killer vehicles. Each killer has “eyes” - an IR video camera. And a bunch of sensors. And he cuts maneuvers warhead.
                Physics in Israel and the USA are also taught. And the engineers will not hit finger by finger until the project is approved by physicists and algorithmists with doctoral degrees.
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                  23 September 2017 20: 01
                  Warrior, this is an ICBM. ICBMs of course you can shoot down. And if the rocket does not fly along a ballistic trajectory, in the atmosphere on hypersound, it still slows down and maneuvers for periods. A missile carrier flew up or a submarine surfaced, launched one, it’s just to take it in vain.

                  Kim, by the way, will soon have shared warheads. Well, 5 years, thanks to your Ukrainian friends. And what appears at Kim is quietly sold to Iran. Here will be a great opportunity to test your missile defense on a lame analogue of Voivode.
                  1. +1
                    24 September 2017 10: 11
                    "And if the rocket does not fly along a ballistic trajectory, in the atmosphere with hypersound" ///

                    No one has such missiles yet. And it is not expected soon in service.
                    Russia is in the process of initial testing and is bluffing, as if "just about", and America is in the process of testing.
                    (but not bluffing)

                    The most difficult target so far is ICBMs and its "buses" and combat units.
                    With these things, only somehow, 50-for-50 learned to cope.
  8. 0
    22 September 2017 12: 17
    Quote: NKT
    You are afraid of fanatics, but there is no only country that has used nuclear weapons against civilians twice, and which has no moral principles.

    Fear Danians from Washington, Gifts That Bring Israel ....
  9. +2
    22 September 2017 12: 35
    Something suspiciously quickly appeared missiles with nuclear warheads from Iran and North Korea. More recently, the Iranians had a nuclear program at the R&D stage, and then a rocket suddenly HELPED. Here, either China fussed, or we ... The question is why?
    I think the bet is that the presence of nuclear weapons in such countries will stabilize the situation in the region and will not allow the United States to do whatever they want. But for me, the presence of such weapons in such regimes is a double-edged sword.
    1. +2
      22 September 2017 12: 59
      There is still Pakistan and Iran maintains good relations with S. Korea and with Pakistan. Such AOZT help each other.
  10. +1
    22 September 2017 12: 37
    Quote: voyaka uh
    It’s already completely clear: BR is the weapon of the poor. Who is not able to create and maintain effective air forces, will switch to rockets. Cheap and cheerful. BR will be more
    “offended” leaders and weak countries, they will be thrown around more and more often.
    The way out is only a strong missile defense. Not like it is now, but with elements in space.

    You've made a funny joke now.
    About missile defense elements in space.
    Tovarisch Reagan seems to be the first popularizer of this approach.
    It is clear that star wars be .... sometime.
    But the time prospects are foggy and very much for the rich.
    Maybe it's better to agree on a good one?
    Well, or if the master does not want to agree on his pitchfork (weapons for the poor).
    Everything was in this world.
    Why without rasshudom on the same rake.
    Although the general well-being of mankind for those in power has never been a goal.
  11. +2
    22 September 2017 13: 01
    The new BR is called "Khorramshahr" declared range of 2 thousand kilometers, the weight of warhead 1800 kilograms.
    The missile part of the parade in Iran where the new BR was presented
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      22 September 2017 14: 52
      Does she even fly?
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        22 September 2017 15: 09
        Quote: Arzoo
        Does she even fly?

        So far, I have not seen the launch of this missile.
        The missile is clearly “thicker” than previously ostentatious and its range is higher than declared.

  12. 0
    22 September 2017 13: 02
    Well done. --- "Iran's missile program causes a sharp negative reaction from the US" --- Something in recent times, too many negative reactions, but what about the stool? Or maybe consult with a psychiatrist?
  13. +1
    22 September 2017 13: 21
    Quote: Anglorussian
    And what root did the Americans have to spare in Mikado subjects?

    Yes, my friend you are seriously ill ,,,,,,
    1. 0
      22 September 2017 14: 14
      In Europe, various sexual perversions are now fashionable, this one apparently prefers those related to satisfaction through the brain! laughing
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        23 September 2017 19: 06
        If you were allowed into Europe, I would also be here. tongue One joy is not allowed.
        1. +2
          23 September 2017 19: 10
          Quote: Anglorussian
          If you were allowed into Europe, I would also be here. tongue One joy is not allowed.

          Well, to me, for example, this Europe did not rest. After all, you yourself know, they have talked to you more than once.
          1. 0
            23 September 2017 19: 17
            For the same reason, be honest. If the notorious Europe opens the borders for the Russian Federation, as for the Balts (you can live and work on equal terms with the locals), then how many local patriotic members of the forum (and Russians in general) will be tearing here for accommodation, to the gay people? Or they’ll send the children if the sand from the popEc itself is strewed.
            1. +2
              23 September 2017 20: 05
              Quote: Anglorussian
              For the same reason, be honest.

              I see no reason. I live by the principle - where I was born, it was useful there. And that’s it. request
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                23 September 2017 20: 08
                Congratulations, you are in the minority. Although everyone says so, including Russian officials.
                And among the Soviet diaspora, everyone says the same thing — I’m here of these stupid wassat ) I’ll warm it up, I take it off and leave for my native Zvezdorechensk. And he himself has been working for years on a garbage truck good
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                  23 September 2017 20: 20
                  Quote: Anglorussian
                  Congratulations, you are in the minority.

                  Thank you.
                  Quote: Anglorussian
                  Although everyone says so, including Russian officials.

                  This yes, I will not argue. Full of friends who admire the West. One says: "You count, there is beer right in the training center!" And what are the responsibilities in Switzerland - he said nothing. Now I am attracted to Moscow.
                  1. 0
                    23 September 2017 20: 26
                    Full of friends who admire the West
                    I am amused by those who tell me how to live here badly and impossibly, what bad people are here and how fighting gays stand on the street corners ready to attack good . At the same time, the narrator did not leave his hometown and even speaks Russian (not to mention "theirs") poorly.
                    1. +2
                      23 September 2017 20: 34
                      Quote: Anglorussian
                      I am amused by those who tell me how to live here badly and impossibly, what bad people are here and how fighting gays stand on the street corners ready to attack

                      Yes, I don’t say anything about it. Well, you want to live as a "man of the world" - your right. Only after all, what a hitch, the blacks also want to be "people of the world." And they need bananas to fall from the tree by themselves, and not work. The contradiction is obtained.
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                        23 September 2017 20: 41
                        You live the "man of the world"
                        Rather, a man of Europe. What are the blacks doing?
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            23 September 2017 19: 21
            And who will keep me?
            The first immigration policeman to come across. Well, the language barrier laughing .
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              23 September 2017 20: 18
              Quote: Anglorussian
              And who will keep me?
              The first immigration policeman to come across. Well, the language barrier laughing .

              Made laugh! Apparently your mind was badly damaged by sex distortions or overeating fat! lol
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    22 September 2017 16: 56
    Quote: Anglorussian
    had every right
    But the fleet of bombers suitable for this was not attached to the law. Here is the answer.

    Of course, you can invent “answers”, but the reality of the monstrous acts, when the civilian population was massively destroyed, was carried out by virtually unjustified slaughter of ordinary people (we don’t even talk about objects of cultural heritage), this will not change in any way.
  15. +2
    22 September 2017 17: 00
    Quote: NKT
    This is all fortune telling on coffee grounds. But it’s enough to see that the USSR did not arrange carpet bombing of German cities during the Second World War, as the Allies did

    He may have had the right, but unfortunately there are no opportunities

    Quote: bald
    Well done. --- "Iran's missile program causes a sharp negative reaction from the US" --- Something in recent times, too many negative reactions, but what about the stool? Or maybe consult with a psychiatrist?

    Everything is fine with the chair. This missile, even if it really wants to not one of the NATO countries, but Turkey will not cover. Plus the European part of Russia and part of the Asian. We will applaud neighbors who increase their potential, but so far only against us .... They will shoot at the infidels behind a puddle - it is unlikely that there is no technology, strength is not enough. And the other infidels are nearby, at their side.

    Quote: NEXUS
    I think the bet is that the presence of nuclear weapons in such countries will stabilize the situation in the region and prevent the United States from doing whatever they want. But for me, the presence of such weapons in such regimes is a double-edged sword

    Or, regardless of the United States, destabilizing the situation. It is so pleasant to have a Muslim nuclear power in its underbelly. Regardless of how Americans treat her. Or do you think that necessarily "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" ?? Oh well. Americans do not care, by and large. And on our outskirts of the country there are 2 nuclear powers in the East (moreover, one does not care what everyone thinks about her and spit on everyone, including the “elder brother.” In the center were two nuclear powers - India and Pakistan. our territories are within reach of their missiles, and now Iran. Very well ...
    1. 0
      22 September 2017 18: 36
      Quote: Old26
      And on our outskirts of the country there are 2 nuclear powers in the East (moreover, one does not care what everyone thinks about her and spit on everyone, including the “elder brother.” In the center were two nuclear powers - India and Pakistan. our territories are within reach of their missiles, and now Iran. Very well ...

      So what? Missiles of ALL nuclear powers of the world can reach the territory of Russia.
      Iran is not a nuclear power and is not going to. Although I personally admit that this can happen if it is forced to do so by the aggressive regimes of Israel and the United States.
  16. 0
    22 September 2017 23: 14
    Quote: quilted jacket
    The new BR is called "Khorramshahr" declared range of 2 thousand kilometers, the weight of warhead 1800 kilograms.

    With 650 kg of BG, a range of about 4000 km .. At least the Iranians want to replace those not very successful Musudan with it. 18 pieces of which the North Koreans squeezed the Iranians a few years ago

    Quote: Arzoo
    Does she even fly?

    The only test was on January 29, 2017. the rocket flew 965 km and then exploded. But right comrade padded jacketI didn’t see the start video

    Quote: quilted jacket
    So what? Missiles of ALL nuclear powers of the world can reach the territory of Russia.

    And why else increase their number. So far, the Iranians, except for Russia (well, to the countries of the Middle East) are not threatening. Something I don’t really want to have a country a few hundred meters away with the potential that, if necessary, can strike at Russia.
    1. 0
      23 September 2017 19: 22
      Quote: Old26
      So far, the Iranians, except for Russia (well, to the countries of the Middle East) are not threatening. Something I don’t really want to have a country a few hundred meters away with the potential that, if necessary, can strike at Russia.

      Somehow awkwardly it turns out when nuclear weapons were created and the missile potential capable of reaching our territory in Israel Pakistan India China, it’s especially that whoever didn’t stutter about it and how Iran began to create missiles so panic and screams are a threat to the whole world smile
      Moreover, neither our country nor China is particularly opposed to this main "hysteria" on this occasion from Israel and the United States, even Europe rarely mentions the "Iranian threat"
  17. +2
    23 September 2017 20: 47
    Anglorussian,
    Negroes despite the fact that they also feel like people of the world. I talked with one such. Dumb as a felt boot. I’ll come, he says, home, I’ll become the boss. Hindus are more intelligent. Helped solve problems.
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  19. +1
    25 September 2017 00: 40
    Quote: voyaka uh
    "and Iskander 2500." ///

    2500 - so winged rocket. The same Caliber launched from the Iskander chassis. Caliber is no different from Tomahawk. Subsonic cruise missile. Both easily go astray fighters.
    Laura is easily placed on the chassis. After all, four Laura weigh like two Iskander. Two Laura are placed on any chassis.
    BR Iskander flies 500 km, BR Laura - 400 km. If you reduce the warhead, it will be 500 and easy.
    If you have more questions, please contact hi sir wink


    First 300. THREE HUNDRED km Or for you Jews 300 and 400 is one word in Hebrew? Secondly, the OTRK is just not only a missile, but also a chassis with a launcher. Your worthless Laura has a chassis NO. so that his lengthy reasoning about "After all, four Laura weigh like two Iskander. Two Laura are placed on any chassis." just your fantasies. You’ll put a chassis at least 10. In the meantime, you set up a 140 mm cannon on your mercavas, until I told you that there was 1 experienced tank. Further. if the chassis and launcher have the ability to shoot cruise missiles with a range of 2500 km. then the range of this OTRK 2500 km. It is solely your problem that your faulor does not have a chassis and shoots with only one type of missile. In any case, 500 km in super sound on the chassis is more than 300 km of your caliber rocket without it. That's all, I have no questions for you. If once again you want to sit in a puddle igspert, contact. hi I know you are known here as a local technical expert for unprepared minds, but if you continue to give nonsense about fau 2, I’ll quickly fix this Yes .
    1. +1
      25 September 2017 00: 57
      Aggressive ignorance ... a funny cocktail ... my young friend from the county town X.
      1. +1
        25 September 2017 01: 10
        What do you need a clown? I already fed you manure from a spoon in the topic of aviation. Do you still want to? Why are you so proud of your whereabouts emigrant? Did you build the city where you are now or grew up there? Do not you here about aggressive ignorance to bleat trollinut worthless ... kanay, you can assume that 30 rubles worked.

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