What kind of life are such "gelendvageny"? A couple of thoughts about the laws

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In the light of these events, for some reason, I wanted to raise and discuss several issues related to those who are obliged to protect and protect us.



Sensational story in Moscow, she was virtually forgotten, the guilty were punished. But, to my surprise, I learned that this was not an isolated incident. In Volgograd, graduates of the Academy of the Ministry of Internal Affairs also arranged a race, but the cars were more modest, the motorcade consisted of “Toyota”. Land Cruiser Prado 200. Plus a yacht and the most expensive restaurant in the city.

In Voronezh, graduates of the Academy of the Ministry of Emergency Situations preferred black Lexus for skiing. But also nothing, pull.

Not bad, let's say, a demonstration. The question is - what? Your financial capabilities or, really, as a picture for the future?

Well, here is another question. Well, I messed around at the prom, tasted to the fullest beauty, saw the prospect. So what is next?

And then life and service begins. And it is clear that “Gelik” does not shine for anyone especially, and the farther away from Moscow and St. Petersburg. But tasted something tasted ... And "elders" showed how it can be. That's just not explained, probably what to do.

And the sheer nonsense begins.

As an example, I will cite two cases that I personally observed.

We wrote about the first case right after the hot pursuit. This is when the gallant officer of the Voronezh FSB captain Dmitry Shchitov defeated the museum of search engines from the public organization Don.

It was an extremely dirty and unflattering story, after which there was only one question left: what was the business of the FSB to the museum, in which everything was absolutely unsuitable for combat use?

But this is not the end. Mr. Shchitov also famously carried out a raid on a certain Dmitry Gorin, an entrepreneur-collector. Gorin was engaged in the manufacture of MMG, layouts weapons since the Second World War. Separately, it is worth emphasizing that it is the MMG, without the possibility of SHP, firing blank cartridges. In short, beautiful toys.

Again, the question arises, why does the FSB spend time on a person, which the district police officer could well check the legality and correctness of activity?

"Signals"? Maybe. "Development"? Full

The fact that Shchitov acted in the usual manner of the Gopnik from 90-s also does not fit the script. Inspection resulted in a very search with just a bunch of violations of procedural requirements. And, of course, with a massacre. As I understand it, striking a person several times in the face is a firm signature for a modern special service officer.

But the fun began further. Shields collected and carried in his own car all that he liked. Namely - spare parts, issued and purchased in legal stores. For the sum of 140 thousand rubles. Interestingly, they are in the photos of operational shooting, but not in the description.

Naturally, all MMGs were seized. Later they were returned by a court decision, since the examination established their utter unsuitability as a weapon.

So what do we have? The usual theft under the guise of official activity.

But that is not all. Then there was the extortion of money. The following night. Shchitov and Gorin left the UFSB building, took a walk to the nearest ATM, and there Gorin took off and transferred 30 thousand rubles to Shitov. All that he had on the map at that time. Sberbank withdrawals at a specified time confirmed.

Gorin turned out to be a stubborn man and went to look for the truth first in the FSB’s own security service, then in the prosecutor’s office, then in the military prosecutor’s office.

Immediately, the gallant captain of the FSB began scribbling statements about the fact that Gorin was threatening him. And also rushed to seek protection. It is clear that the FSB is such a structure of the type of housing and communal services, everyone can run into and threaten an employee of the organization.

The result was funny. Both were denied initiation of proceedings. Shchitov could not prove the fact of receipt of threats from Gorin, Gorin could not prove the fact of giving a bribe (all shooting video cameras on the FSB building that night disappeared magically) and the fact that his parts were stolen. Well, they just disappeared, although they remained in the photo. It happens…

Horin, however, insisted on a full psychological examination with the use of a polygraph, but the court did not consider it possible to appoint it and dispersed both in the corners. Well, plus Gorin was fined for improper storage of blank cartridges (absolutely true, yes).

Why did I focus on this case? Tell about the fact of lawlessness? By no means. The outrage on the part of the “organs” in Russia is hardly anyone today.

1. Money.

Very surprised by the cheapness of the captain of the FSB. Spare parts for MMG on 140 thousand rubles, which in Voronezh will interest just a couple of people, and 30 thousand in cash. Total 170 thousands, really from which to receive a half.

Will not be enough, is not it? Of course, if the matter is put on stream, then it is already more interesting. Moreover, the shove against the FSB, and even more so, to threaten - the lot of the few.

But still on the "Gelik" not dial. Even on used.

2. System.

The fact that the "senior comrades" came to the defense of the captain is understandable. “We don’t give up ours” and all that. Because they did not find anything in the actions, the records were lost somewhere and stuff like that.

In general, it is hard to go against the system. There, a priori, they believe in “theirs”, while strangers must turn out of their way to prove their case. Having carefully studied all over two hundred pages of the Gorin case, I was convinced of this. Always the right person of the system. But then she and the system.

That's just completely incomprehensible why the system allows its cogs to arrange outright chaos? We seem to be (not sure already) not 90s of the last century. And nevertheless, the further you look, the more you become convinced that in this country no one can be insured against such visits in such an organization.

What, really really pay little and you have to "pay" so? Dali ksivu - spin as you want? Not funny, you know ...

3. Perspective.

When I read the sheets of the case, surprise did not leave. Well, after all some nonsense! An FSB officer (God bless them, even with violations of the Code of Criminal Procedure, although putting a muzzle on the floor and beating a citizen who is not involved in anything - not comme il faut), steals pals, taking them away in the trunk of his own car and extorts pennies.

"Gelik" so want? It is not excluded.

But if you imagine the moment that suddenly they will offer to captain Shchitov ... well, let's say, a million. Or two. What do you think, will take? Will it work? I am sure that yes.

Even the question of who offers, does not play such a role. And for what. The issue price. If the cost of the captain of the FSB for violating the law, which he must protect, is hypothetical 170 thousands, then for the sum, 10 or 20 times more, he doesn’t like that.

But cheapness, for which the FSB officer went to violate the law, is depressing. And it is alarming, because this cheapness may well interest those who need such personnel.

Say, why then give a tip?

Yes, because such people should not be in the organs. It is clear that the cleansing has passed, and somehow the materials about the lawlessness of employees of various departments have become less. But this does not mean that everything settled down at once.

Shchitov remained in his place, where, according to the founding father of Felix Edmundovich Dzerzhinsky, people should serve with clean hands, a warm heart and a cool head. Fully "otmazanny." This means that it will be able to break into the door to someone else a little later.

We have some strange selectivity is scheduled. Bodies that simply must be impartial, allow themselves to be very strange actions. I will cite as proof a photograph that has bypassed the Internet. September events in Moscow.

What kind of life are such "gelendvageny"? A couple of thoughts about the laws


I even wonder, the police officers who are standing to the left and right of the shooter, are they like, did they pass a medical examination? Is it really that bad with eyesight? Or is this notorious "I carried out the order"?

Eichmann also spoke this way, and ask our Israeli readers how he graduated ...

And, most importantly, who gives such orders? And in whose interests? Whose rights are ultimately protected by our law enforcement system? Citizens of the state, on whose money, by the way, does this system exist, or of those who are “in a cage”?

In the cage, of course, be good. That some and show the younger generation. But another question is, what will we get in 10 in years? Such a pace?

If the "helico" and the desire to earn will be above the law, then it will no longer be the law. It will be something like the LDNR sample 2014 of the year, when everyone who could and everything they could “squeezed out” was “squeezed out”.

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  1. +12
    22 September 2017 15: 25
    But cheapness, for which the FSB officer went to violate the law, is depressing. And it is alarming, because this cheapness may well interest those who need such personnel.

    Don’t worry, and the captain - 170 thousand, and the colonel - already billions (this is me about Zakharchenko, if that))
    1. +7
      22 September 2017 16: 35
      and the foreman? Do you have a price list for each star?



      Just think on Gelika, some KGB officers also choose abruptly cars for "pokatushek" in the mountains.

      I am absolutely normal towards the author - but I think that it’s not worthwhile to judge the work of the KGB by clowns. There are too many departments and directions - to judge the office and its ideals by the rear abrek.

      ps rent a gelenvagen - 2800 rubles per hour. You can’t be so liquid! In my opinion, I gave more for a tattered ship at the graduation in the cadet corps

      1. +2
        22 September 2017 17: 12
        First of all, my office is associated with "A" and "B". Such articles are of course about the truth, but then the author should supplement the story of respectable heroes.

        And then I’m reading the second article about this egregious case (about a shooting club) - and I understand that it was so. But the feeling that there are no others. And there are many others, worthy and noble, who will give their lives and set their shoulders up.

        I wish the author to meet such Chekists so that his sense of dirt does not prevail when it comes to the office

        1. +3
          23 September 2017 00: 28
          Weak to cleanse organs from such. And it’s better not to take it right away!
        2. AUL
          +5
          23 September 2017 09: 47
          First of all, my office is associated with "A" and "B". Such articles are of course about the truth, but then the author should supplement the story of respectable heroes.
          But who argues, there are real people in the office, and so far they are the majority. But the fact that the SYSTEM does not get rid of such Shield panels, but arises a mountain to defend them, is most alarming! And if in Ingushetia, under the Wahhabis' bullets, there are ordinary soldiers and casts, then criminals in epaulettes abruptly loot in the rear. And it suits the system!
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        1. +4
          22 September 2017 17: 21
          Probably during the KGB there wasn’t such a ***.


          if the FSB weren’t now, your whole life would be ***

          say thanks to the gnawers, and not write your own opposition on the forum in every topic

          they will exchange their lives for your warm sofa and positions in high school against the government and against raising salaries for the security forces (against the Russian Guard, you wrote a lot of posts, if I'm not mistaken, if I'm wrong, I'm sorry) and other nonsense.

          3 addresses per day work out. business trips they are. and here we are sitting on the forums sneezing them for a missed terrorist attack or for such a case where a clown seized upon a crust begins to bend his fingers
          1. +7
            23 September 2017 00: 33
            You are sitting on the forums. He said everything. And I work in the fields. And then I look at life. I draw conclusions. And you are sitting in the forum, on a warm sofa. I saw the guys on TV on heliks. So what?! You are from 50 km. Per day m 30 kg. make a backpack along the route ?! And data without marriage ?! In order for your ass to pour fat. Weak for you. And I was upset, they think for you, and they themselves for a pin to owls.
          2. +19
            23 September 2017 03: 36
            do not go to extremes ... the FSB defender ... anyone who knows will say that the FSB Academy is now passing for money and the vast majority do not go there for ideological reasons, but to pursue a career and keep your ass warm and to fight for a place in the sun with a crust it was easier ... let's be honest, the KGB-FSB degraded after Andropov and arrives in this state to this day ... yes this is a special service, but what kind of special service did it allow for such a shameful collapse of the USSR? why did the KGB generals, having a complete picture of what was happening, not conspire and remove all this Gorbachev pack of traitors ??? yes, precisely because the kgb itself had rotted by that time and was degrading ... the conclusion is that the FSB for the most part is the same rotten cantor as the Ministry of Internal Affairs which serves the Kremlin and clans that have privatized power .. in fact, if the go-ahead comes from the Kremlin the collapse of Russia with the separation of Siberia, the Far East, and so on, the FSB will begin to systematically do this ... the fact is that our government, in my opinion (I do not pretend to truth this is purely my observation) is occupational .. only the invaders are not external but internal and that’s why Russia still exists
            1. 0
              23 September 2017 03: 57
              rave? what grandmother are you talking about? Have you ever seen a competition at their academy?
              1. jjj
                0
                23 September 2017 19: 24
                So many are very vague about where this school is located. They reproach the respected special services and are not afraid, but at the same time they cry that there is no democracy in Russia.
                Yes, and there’s already enough bullshit to drive the graduates' pokatushki on the Gelenvagen, then Timati’s video
                1. +2
                  26 September 2017 07: 58
                  My friend at one time wanted to go to the FSB to work. Patriot means, says nothing bad, I’ll be a junior pencil grinder at first, but I will serve my homeland, and then I will develop, titles, etc. He brought him to a man from the office, talked - he opened his eyes to the whole kitchen and the patriot lost the desire to go there, because you will remain the youngest grinder of pencils.
      3. +1
        23 September 2017 03: 56
        show off the cadet, and even more so on the graduation tradition of which is for many years. father spoke in their time, they drove in the same taxi and hired another one so that it would carry their caps))) we also made a noise when we graduated. it is a tradition to kill her with public indignation stupidly. in a few months it’s possible to ride around the Caucasus or the Middle East. and perhaps (pah pah pah) not everyone will return. The Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Ministry of Emergencies also do not produce plumbers.
      4. +4
        23 September 2017 07: 00
        Quote: s-t Petrov
        but I think that by the clowns to judge the work of the KGB

        Here are just a livestock of clowns, increasing with terrible speed!
        When the Union was all sorts of Komsomol sets in the KGB Ministry of Internal Affairs.
        Now it has become a family tradition.
        Oh, there is no Peter 1, the beard of the shearing, the boyars have divorced too much!
    2. +1
      23 September 2017 04: 01
      Lnglr Yesterday, 15:25 p.m.
      But cheapness, for which the FSB officer went to violate the law, is depressing. And it is alarming, because this cheapness may well interest those who need such personnel.

      Do not worry, and the captain - 170 thousand,

      Yeah, depending on the allowances and the duty station, one hundred square meters can and will!
      Just to blur!
      1. jjj
        0
        23 September 2017 19: 26
        In the chicken coop, when one crowes, the others begin to cluck. Do not discuss speculation
  2. +1
    22 September 2017 15: 31
    Yes, you represent that level of the FSB officer?
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      1. 0
        22 September 2017 16: 37
        just ukroinets laughing fighting with Russian as she can good

        Avatar - it’s already considered how you put on your boots. a little bit more and there will be fire contact
  4. 0
    22 September 2017 16: 52
    Fresh thoughts of the author are always encouraging ....
  5. 0
    22 September 2017 17: 05
    so what is Shchitov’s car?
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  6. +7
    22 September 2017 17: 29
    And who created such a system? Why can anyone, I apologize for the expression, say workers can pay wages only after contacting Putin? And then he publicly reports this and starts a criminal case from his filing? Ask yourself these questions and try to find the answers and the person in charge.
  7. +1
    22 September 2017 18: 01
    Novel!
    If the "helico" and the desire to earn will be above the law, then it will no longer be the law. It will be something like the LDNR sample 2014 of the year, when everyone who could and everything they could “squeezed out” was “squeezed out”.

    Have you mixed so many letters for these lines?
  8. +12
    22 September 2017 19: 37
    3 addresses work out per day. business trips they are. and here we are sitting on the forums sneezing them for a missed terrorist attack or for such a case where a clown seized upon a crust begins to bend his fingers [/ quote]
    Stop defending your own kind; having got into any of the special services, a person gets money for work, if in a quiet time he gets a bunch of moles for the gym and training, then ordinary people still pay for it. And if an emergency, then they are heroes, again with a salary, although volunteers do it for free. Regarding the author, Roman is an adequate and fully understanding person. Sometimes he will overtake, but this is his journalistic view, an occasion for our reflection. And you stupidly pour d..mo., Hooked or sore? What are you moving on ???
  9. +4
    22 September 2017 20: 00
    Stupid question, of course, those who hold power! This citizens to the lantern. Are you still sure that such “cadres” will faithfully serve Russia and us and you? The question remains: why the hell am I with the FSB and why do I pay taxes? Although I know the REAL, HONEST, CHEKIST ... and these, "Gelens", I must drive dirty rags from the organs.
    1. +8
      23 September 2017 00: 36
      What a system, such a FSB.
      1. +5
        23 September 2017 06: 51
        Quote: AKuzenka
        What a system, such a FSB.

        One of the very few comments in essence, for the rest ..., the system gave rise, or rather put production on an industrial scale, the type of civil servant whose main principle is to earn as much money as possible in any way possible for him, especially since the system provides such cover, in general the same shopkeeping, and it destroys the country
      2. +2
        23 September 2017 12: 25
        This can be said about any system, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, health care, education, it’s difficult to go against the system, I used to be skeptical of lawyers, it seems that there are too many of them, but I’ll say one of them when it’s enough they will fill all the niches and earn from such bastards from the system, they will throw their lawsuits so that they do not raise their heads, an example of how insurance now howled because of compulsory motor third-party liability insurance.
  10. +4
    22 September 2017 20: 19
    It’s just marvelous to be given how visionary Vladimir Vysotsky was to write such words ...
    "..An inexplicable cataclysm occurred:
    I walked home along my quiet street -
    Looking to meet me brazenly rushing capitalism,
    Beast face hide under the mask of the "Lada"! ... "
  11. +3
    23 September 2017 00: 26
    The author is not right by definition. Such questions poses !!!!!! Here it is necessary to raise the question of the Navy. And he is talking about bribes of 30. And besides, what does the author want from the "Pepsi generation" ?! They have different priorities. He and his mother will surrender for bucks. Hundreds is enough. That is, we must all be prepared for the fact that they will surrender us, at any moment, those who must beat the spies. Yes, they have already passed, judging by the heliks and other garbage. The employee should be inconspicuous and not stand out. They lit up immediately. My mind is enough to understand this, they (specially learned) are not enough. So - notorious traitors.
    1. +1
      23 September 2017 12: 33
      No need for the Pepsi generation, human greed also flourished in the generation of stagnation, it was always and everywhere it all depends on us, who and we are who didn’t pay traffic cops or donated thanks to doctors or the chief of the unit for transferring to a good place? If we stop feeding these reptiles, they will not go there
  12. +8
    23 September 2017 01: 36
    “It's just not clear why the system allows its cogs to arrange outright chaos?” Yes, there is no longer any system. There is a certain corporation by inertia. In the case of a large schukher, the whole leadership will rush to save their asses. At the service will remain a percentage of confused grassroots employees. Which will not be able to establish coordination and die a heroic death. Civilians rely only on themselves.
    1. 0
      26 September 2017 08: 10
      Unfortunately it's true. Civil officials, law enforcement officials have savings abroad, and many have real estate. If it’s enough to buy a plane ticket or get to the airport and take a personal one and in a couple of hours you will be in London. With a schukher, only those who do not have time to dump or who will have nothing to blame will remain. Some of the remaining will begin to divide the remains, another in the trenches to protect something. But the invaders will not, like the Nazis, say that they will kill everyone, but on the contrary they will say that they came to release and now you will heal well: we’ll work the laws and put things in order, and you will be able to work normally and conduct business in normal countries etc. etc.
  13. +3
    23 September 2017 02: 56
    After Beslan, the FSB is finally over. Some enthusiasts stayed. Moreover, the FSB is counterintelligence ... and they should not only catch terrorists .. but they are in no hurry to cleanse themselves.
    1. +1
      23 September 2017 04: 13
      counterintelligence is a small part of their authority. counterintelligence activities;
      the fight against terrorism;
      the fight against especially dangerous forms of crime;
      intelligence activities;
      border activities;
      ensuring information security;
  14. +1
    23 September 2017 04: 11
    By the way, the author about the photograph of a man with a gun. during such events, among the crowd there are always office employees whose task is to identify potentially dangerous objects and neutralize them. this practice is old and very effective.
  15. 0
    23 September 2017 12: 56
    I read that in Germany BMW is considered a “pimp machine”. This is probably the most common, if not the only, type of criminal activity in Germany. By the same logic, the German "Gelande Wagen" (a cart for driving around the terrain, that is, an "off-road vehicle") became the Russian "Gelendvagen" - a "car for the cool." This is a social phenomenon.
  16. +1
    24 September 2017 12: 58
    Quote: cariperpaint
    By the way, the author about the photograph of a man with a gun. during such events, among the crowd there are always office employees whose task is to identify potentially dangerous objects and neutralize them. this practice is old and very effective.

    Bullshit squared. Why, I won’t even explain.
  17. +2
    25 September 2017 07: 31
    Quote: AKuzenka
    You are sitting on the forums. He said everything. And I work in the fields. And then I look at life. I draw conclusions. And you are sitting in the forum, on a warm sofa. I saw the guys on TV on heliks. So what?! You are from 50 km. Per day m 30 kg. make a backpack along the route ?! And data without marriage ?! In order for your ass to pour fat. Weak for you. And I was upset, they think for you, and they themselves for a pin to owls.

    I completely agree with the words above. If you recall the year 1999, when they were looking for commanders in the Ch. Republic .... they found Troshev (the kingdom to him be heaven and the land in peace - shore personnel) and Shamanov. Unfortunately, they didn’t find the generals .... In the “field” simple Vani, Petit run and work .... And if you remember that they pulled the colonel out of retirement on a single 240mm mortar battery .... then there’s nothing to say.)
  18. +4
    25 September 2017 09: 59
    All these discussions about the “right” FSB officers come from a past life, when the state created by Lenin was popular and served the people, albeit not quite smoothly. Now the state system has changed, the state has become capitalist, i.e. exploitative in relation to its people, you understand at last. All these power structures, by definition, are now engaged in protecting the powers that be from the working people, and people are throwing handouts so that they do not arise. Hence, these graduates have similar behavior. Further it will be even worse. The capitalist state will “bend” its people (with the help of the FSB, KGB, ABVGD, etc.) until the absolute absolute power of the oligarchic elite over the behavior of the common people is established. All this confrontation between Russia, China and the United States is merely a struggle for spheres of influence between the old matted capitalist wolf-pahan of the USA and young wolves. And all the patriotic conversations about Motherland are from the evil one, attempts to attract and use for their own purposes the sincere patriotism of the common people, who for centuries believed in an honest, decent and kind leader. Meanwhile, they continue to steal and keep their money abroad, putting it both on their Motherland and on Mother and on the whole people. It’s necessary to fight!
  19. 0
    25 September 2017 22: 11
    Shield remained in place where, according to the founding father Felix Edmundovich Dzerzhinsky, people with clean hands, a warm heart and a cold head should serve. Completely “smeared out”. So, it’s quite possible for itself to break into the door to someone else a little later
    Alas, to my great regret, if private ownership, bourgeois ideology, or, more simply, the ideology of money-grubbing is intensely planted in our society (although the constitution hypocritically emphasizes that we have no ideology), it is not surprising that such “cadres” get into the Office. This is the trouble of the whole society, not just the Office! Unfortunately! sad hi
  20. 0
    26 September 2017 03: 52
    Quote: aws4
    do not go to extremes ... the FSB defender ... anyone who knows will say that the FSB Academy is now passing for money and the vast majority do not go there for ideological reasons, but to pursue a career and keep your ass warm and to fight for a place in the sun with a crust it was easier ... let's be honest, the KGB-FSB degraded after Andropov and arrives in this state to this day ... yes this is a special service, but what kind of special service did it allow for such a shameful collapse of the USSR? why did the KGB generals, having a complete picture of what was happening, not conspire and remove all this Gorbachev pack of traitors ??? yes, precisely because the kgb itself had rotted by that time and was degrading ... the conclusion is that the FSB for the most part is the same rotten cantor as the Ministry of Internal Affairs which serves the Kremlin and clans that have privatized power .. in fact, if the go-ahead comes from the Kremlin the collapse of Russia with the separation of Siberia, the Far East, and so on, the FSB will begin to systematically do this ... the fact is that our government, in my opinion (I do not pretend to truth this is purely my observation) is occupational .. only the invaders are not external but internal and that’s why Russia still exists

    Those who will defend Russia Russian Orthodox, Russian Orthodox, the people of Russia from any enemies should work in the FSB and other power structures of the Russian Orthodox Church of Russia. To the marrow of the bones, they are real Defenders of the Russian Orthodox Church, Russian Orthodox Church, the people of Russian Orthodox Church. Ready to even work - for a penny, even for free. Even at the cost of their life and health, if necessary. Ideal. But this does not mean that their salary should be small. No. They must receive a good salary and let them go to good Russians and t o, made, designed and built in Russia, Russian Orthodox, and that Russian cars-were at times steeper than those gelikov.No names to defend RUSSIAN ORTHODOX RUSSIAN, RUSSIAN ORTHODOX, RUSSIA RUSSIAN ORTHODOX PEOPLE, FROM ANY AND ALL ENEMIES. For this, I don’t feel sorry for them — good cars, salaries and apartments. If they do their job well, namely, PROTECT RUSSIA THE ORTHODOX RUSSIAN, RUSSIAN ORTHODOX PEOPLE, THE ORTHODOX OF RUSSIA FROM ANY ENEMIES, THE FRIEND, THE TREASURES KAZNOKR
    HELLS AND OTHER SCALES. And such freaks, as described here, there should not be.
  21. +2
    26 September 2017 10: 30
    Well, probably this is an attempt to form a feudal society ... we are slaves ... they are a bar ... so it's still not so scary ... you look then there will be the right of the first night, and the nods when the authorities pass by .... Although why it will be ... you never saw the authorities from Moscow come to the province ... And they paint the grass and the girls with bread and salt build ...
    1. +2
      26 September 2017 11: 25
      everything is already there, in the modern interpretation of course, but modern boyars are not fighting with a spear on the battlefield, everything is ALREADY built.

      it is not clear why such FSB officers should be surprised at the ALREADY built society of social inequality, they are ordinary guards of the occupation-exploitation regime, and the fact that the occupation is financial and ideological, and not military, does not change anything.

      with the feudal system you do not need to compare the modern, they are different,
      this is how the chronicle of feudal war would sound in its modern form:

      and the prime minister and his son fell, leading the State Duma to a breakthrough against hordes of parliament from the tin islands, and only half of the duma survived that battle, the rest laid down their bellies for the fatherland, and the president was wounded in the head and neck and other members many times but defeated in a duel the Prime Minister of the English.

      like this, something is not heard here such messages to our current thick asses to medieval feudal lords as to the moon creeping.
      1. 0
        26 September 2017 12: 08
        So we still lost the war? Ideological and cold?
        1. +2
          26 September 2017 13: 00
          and ideological and economic, and in both areas, already, as you read, they’ve been occupied for three decades,
          the colony in every sense, of course, of course, the PR of a certain "poetsreatizma" goes all the same at the same time as the anti-colonial wave is drained, but there is really nothing but PR actions and small-town showdowns that do not violate the financial interests of the Khuzya people.
  22. 0
    26 September 2017 20: 59
    Quote: Belarus is Russia
    Quote: aws4
    do not go to extremes ... the FSB defender ... anyone who knows will say that the FSB Academy is now passing for money and the vast majority do not go there for ideological reasons, but to pursue a career and keep your ass warm and to fight for a place in the sun with a crust it was easier ... let's be honest, the KGB-FSB degraded after Andropov and arrives in this state to this day ... yes this is a special service, but what kind of special service did it allow for such a shameful collapse of the USSR? why did the KGB generals, having a complete picture of what was happening, not conspire and remove all this Gorbachev pack of traitors ??? yes, precisely because the kgb itself had rotted by that time and was degrading ... the conclusion is that the FSB for the most part is the same rotten cantor as the Ministry of Internal Affairs which serves the Kremlin and clans that have privatized power .. in fact, if the go-ahead comes from the Kremlin the collapse of Russia with the separation of Siberia, the Far East, and so on, the FSB will begin to systematically do this ... the fact is that our government, in my opinion (I do not pretend to truth this is purely my observation) is occupational .. only the invaders are not external but internal and that’s why Russia still exists

    Those who will defend Russia Russian Orthodox, Russian Orthodox, the people of Russia from any enemies should work in the FSB and other power structures of the Russian Orthodox Church of Russia. To the marrow of the bones, they are real Defenders of the Russian Orthodox Church, Russian Orthodox Church, the people of Russian Orthodox Church. Ready to even work - for a penny, even for free. Even at the cost of their life and health, if necessary. Ideal. But this does not mean that their salary should be small. No. They must receive a good salary and let them go to good Russians and t o, made, designed and built in Russia, Russian Orthodox, and that Russian cars-were at times steeper than those gelikov.No names to defend RUSSIAN ORTHODOX RUSSIAN, RUSSIAN ORTHODOX, RUSSIA RUSSIAN ORTHODOX PEOPLE, FROM ANY AND ALL ENEMIES. For this, I don’t feel sorry for them — good cars, salaries and apartments. If they do their job well, namely, PROTECT RUSSIA THE ORTHODOX RUSSIAN, RUSSIAN ORTHODOX PEOPLE, THE ORTHODOX OF RUSSIA FROM ANY ENEMIES, THE FRIEND, THE TREASURES KAZNOKR
    HELLS AND OTHER SCALES. And such freaks, as described here, there should not be.

    To this, to the enemies of Russia the Russian Orthodox, Russian Orthodox, the people of Russia the Russian Orthodox, I will add still all the lawmakers who create laws against the Russian Orthodox, against the people of Russia the Russian Orthodox.
    Such as Aleksey Kudrin. The FSB of Russia of the Russian Orthodox Church has long had to get interested in people like Aleksey Kudrin. Everyone sees that this Kudrin Aleksey speaks the whole Russian Russian Orthodox Church and what laws it pushes:
    1) - Introduce a tax on the unemployed. WHERE DOES UNEMPLOYED MONEY — IF IT DOES NOT HAVE ANY WORK ??? - NO OPPORTUNITY TO EARN MONEY !! And WITH HIS ELSE, THE TAX IS REQUIRED FOR WHAT IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY WORK, NO OPPORTUNITY TO EARN. Only Kudrin called this tax on the other-the tax on medicine. And they will take it, WITH UNEMPLOYED! And this is forced labor. FORCING. Such a kudrin will come and say pasha from dawn to dawn for a bowl of pottage! AAAA-do not want to work for a bowl of pottage ??? !!! - So you're a parasite !!
    This is PPC. Abroad, they help the unemployed, they look for work, they pay benefits, such as what workers in Russia do not all earn. And this Kudrin, offers to tax the unemployed. WHERE DOES THE UNEMPLOYED MAKE MONEY FOR THIS ITS TAX ????? And he did not die (this unemployed) yet because his parents, or children, or his wife or husband contain him.
    2) -And this law is raising the retirement age. Now, until the USSR age, men retire at 60, women retire at 55, law enforcement agencies, military retire at 45, people can barely survive . Look at these grandfathers and grannies barely walk. And they still extend the retirement age!
    RETURN PENSION AGE: MEN 60 years old, women 55 years old, power structures, military 45 years old retirement AND DO NOT RAISE!
    Of course, Aleksey Kudrin himself — he does not work in hard and harmful work — as a loader, collective farmer, and welder. So this Aleksey Kudrin can live up to a hundred years. And how to live such people: movers, collective farmers who have hard work welders who swallow fluxes. smoke, soot and eyesight lose ???
    You do not need to raise your retirement age. And you just need to leave those people who can work and WISH AND WANT TO WORK ON OWN DESIRE FOR YOURSELF
    THE FSB-RUSSIA OF THE RUSSIAN ORTHODOXY NEEDS A GOOD INTEREST IN THIS ALEXEI KUDRIN AND REMOVE IT WITH THE GOVERNING POSITIONS AND MANAGEMENT IN RUSSIA OF THE RUSSIAN ORTHODOX.
    Confiscate his property and send him to develop the Far East as a collective farmer, a loader or whatever for a harmful and difficult profession, to that retirement age — personally to him, which this Alexei Kudrin offers to raise himself. And for such a salary, which Kudrin offers. For life.
    Here are such, it is necessary to clean and clean Russian Orthodox Russia from such scum and traitors and enemies, too.
    FSB OF RUSSIA RUSSIAN ORTHODOX-WHERE DO YOU LOOK AT ??? DO NOT HEAR AND DO NOT SEE WHAT WHO SAYS DOES AND PUSHES ???? Like deaf like that, right?
    I don’t in any way detract from all the virtues and good people from the power structures of Russia of the Russian Orthodox. But the guys, in my opinion, has come. Has not the generation of young, real patriots and security officers of Russia of the Russian Orthodox come to this, ??? Get them all the fuck out! YES ONLY SO NOT ONE NOT GUILTY-NOT HURT!
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      26 September 2017 21: 11
      And your salary (from power structures, the army) should and will be good. Let’s do your job well. And exactly what you were created, intended and born to protect Russia Russian Orthodox, Russian Orthodox, the people of Russia from all sorts of enemies. Even at the cost of one’s own life and health, if necessary.
      Among the people, you will be a real ELITE. And the word ELITE will be equated to you. And the people will always support you. And a good president and commander in chief.)
      The state rots from the head. You-power structures-the head. Created, designed and born, your task day and night to protect Russia Russian Orthodox, Russian Orthodox, the people of Russia from all sorts of enemies, external and internal. Yes, so that not one is not guilty- not injured.
      If you don’t do this, Russia’s Russian Orthodox, it’ll just come ... hona!
    2. 0
      27 September 2017 10: 54
      You live in some kind of virtual world.
      If your state is socialist, i.e. focused on the welfare of the whole society - it takes all the super-incomes of citizens to the treasury (how much did they pay to actors of Soviet films, various groups acting abroad, athletes, etc.?) and spend it on medicine, education, pensions, factory sanatoriums, etc. d. Moreover, the law on parasitism exists so that there are as few as possible those who do not invest in the common piggy bank at all.
      In a capitalist society, i.e. oriented to the success of a single individual, the state takes less for itself, allowing it to earn a lot. But at the same time money to support medicine, education, pensions, etc. much less.
      Whom did our ancestors support? GKChP or Yeltsin? Socialism or "life in the West"? Have they come out in support of the State Emergency Committee at millions rallies throughout the USSR? What did they think, did they deceive them, etc. - do not give a damn. The result is important.
      And there is no need to say anything about the West. In the United States, Trump's election program included a curious point - it was proposed to introduce a bill according to which insurance companies will provide 6-week leave to a woman after childbirth. Do you know how it is now in the USA and Australia? A woman for 2 weeks before delivery has the right to take 12 weeks of _ unpaid leave. There is simply no obligatory next vacation in the USA. The average vacation is 14 days, while 25% of Americans do not have paid holidays at all. There are 10 days in South Korea, and if you take more than 1-2 days at all, you will return already fired (there is an excellent Time article on this topic). Hong Kong - 7 days.
      All this is easily found in Google.
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        27 September 2017 11: 00
        Oh yes - the retirement age in most Western countries is 65 years. For both women and men. In some countries, 67 years. This is even on Wikipedia
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    27 September 2017 09: 56
    Let us then ban weddings and graduations at the school to ban limos from restaurants. Suddenly, the young will get used to it and for the sake of a limousine and restaurant they will go to crime every day?
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      27 September 2017 10: 00
      And already for living in five-star hotels on vacation you should immediately judge right away, before you have time to harm society.
  24. +1
    27 September 2017 14: 34
    How can one not recall the hero Y. Gashek, with an important look pronouncing "I have puvouar". The problem is precisely in this "puvoir", or rather, in culture, to dispose of it. As it was correctly noticed, who is for sale can be bought, and no matter how much. This is a prostitute who is not put into anything by a bandit, nor a terrorist, nor a spy. Because this company is afraid of only one type of "silovik" - ideological. A simple layman, he is not stupid, he hears, sees and shakes on his mustache. And this cannot but know the leadership, which is simply obliged to react toughly.
    1. +1
      27 September 2017 14: 43
      In Soviet times, they worked better with public opinion: leaders tried not to demonstrate their material wealth so as not to annoy the people. This is surprising, given that for so many years we have been talking about the totalitarianism of that time. But now - the lordly rudeness. The question is, why are people suddenly so annoyed by these races on the "heliks"? The author of the article, in my opinion, clearly answered - because he sees the manners of the same "barracks", only in uniform.
      1. +1
        27 September 2017 16: 48
        surprisingly the first race for all the time that I have on my site I have the same opinion with my comrades from Azerbaijan ... I completely agree with you !!! ))))))))))))))))))))
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    30 September 2017 04: 34
    Quote: Dark_Filin
    You live in some kind of virtual world.
    If your state is socialist, i.e. focused on the welfare of the whole society - it takes all the super-incomes of citizens to the treasury (how much did they pay to actors of Soviet films, various groups acting abroad, athletes, etc.?) and spend it on medicine, education, pensions, factory sanatoriums, etc. d. Moreover, the law on parasitism exists so that there are as few as possible those who do not invest in the common piggy bank at all.
    In a capitalist society, i.e. oriented to the success of a single individual, the state takes less for itself, allowing it to earn a lot. But at the same time money to support medicine, education, pensions, etc. much less.
    Whom did our ancestors support? GKChP or Yeltsin? Socialism or "life in the West"? Have they come out in support of the State Emergency Committee at millions rallies throughout the USSR? What did they think, did they deceive them, etc. - do not give a damn. The result is important.
    And there is no need to say anything about the West. In the United States, Trump's election program included a curious point - it was proposed to introduce a bill according to which insurance companies will provide 6-week leave to a woman after childbirth. Do you know how it is now in the USA and Australia? A woman for 2 weeks before delivery has the right to take 12 weeks of _ unpaid leave. There is simply no obligatory next vacation in the USA. The average vacation is 14 days, while 25% of Americans do not have paid holidays at all. There are 10 days in South Korea, and if you take more than 1-2 days at all, you will return already fired (there is an excellent Time article on this topic). Hong Kong - 7 days.
    All this is easily found in Google.

    What did you do that to me? I mixed everything into one comb. No need to take the worst. You need to take the best.
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    30 September 2017 04: 36
    Quote: Dark_Filin
    Oh yes - the retirement age in most Western countries is 65 years. For both women and men. In some countries, 67 years. This is even on Wikipedia

    I don’t care what kind of retirement age in Western countries. People raising the retirement age do not like such tutors against people who.
    Do you want to plow, bother and hunch over 60 years? -Please, if you can and wish. And I-no. And people, people-no. And we do not support this.
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    30 September 2017 04: 40
    Quote: Dark_Filin
    Let us then ban weddings and graduations at the school to ban limos from restaurants. Suddenly, the young will get used to it and for the sake of a limousine and restaurant they will go to crime every day?

    What did you even write for nonsense ??? Do you even understand what you write yourself? I don’t mind that people are good. They lived. People, people for a good salary to people and against all scum, as well as those who infringe on people and introduce laws against people: the tax on the unemployed (on medicine or whatever it is called), against raising the retirement age, against forced labor for a bowl of pottage, for good salaries.
    That is, people, people are not opposed to people, people to pay, and people, people to live well. And not to a handful of embezzlers and philanthropists, to profit from the people and to live on the hump, giving nothing to the people, but only stronger and stronger to the land of people, people were bent and strangled.
    And your comment, what’s what? Do you even understand what I wrote and what you? are you friends with your head?
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    30 September 2017 04: 53
    Quote: Dark_Filin
    And already for living in five-star hotels on vacation you should immediately judge right away, before you have time to harm society.

    So I, people, people, workers, collective farmers, peasants, teachers
    , doctors, scientists and other workers and laborers, the learned class is not against living well.
    Quote: Dark_Filin
    And already for living in five-star hotels on vacation you should immediately judge right away, before you have time to harm society.

    I don’t mind that collective farmers, movers, peasants, scientists, doctors, teach
    eating and other working class-lived in five-star hotels, in nice apartments, in nice houses, had their own good cars, got a good salary. I just for that. I, the people, people are against individual scum not robbing the people and not inventing laws against the people, against people and not parasitizing people and people — that is, they themselves lived and chided at the expense of the people, and gave people a bowl of pottage. it’s clear why these laws are tax on the unemployed (or whatever they call it, the tax on medicine or something else doesn’t change) and raising the retirement age. To take money from the people from the last bowl of pottage to rip off. You're so stupid. Explain to us here, on a military review, WHERE THE UNEMPLOYED WILL HAVE MONEY FOR YOUR N LOG, IF HE-No Job, IE, there is no place to make money. WHERE FOR THE UNEMPLOYED TO TAKE MONEY FOR TAX ???
    Or explain to people, to the people, why should they be hunched over for a bowl of pottage and generally even for good money after the retirement age that was in the USSR (men — 60 years old, women — 55 years old, power structures — 45 years old), if people -sil and health by this age, no ??? Our grandfathers didn’t fight for this! If a person by this age can work himself, of his own free will, of his own will, and not forcibly, wants to work, so let him work. But why force ???? Ah, well, it's over — you are some kind of bureaucrat blood-sucker, you don’t do a fucking yourself, you are sitting, enjoying life. You can live on such an easy job, and can you live up to 120 years. Do you have a conscience ??? Grandfather and grandmother are barely alive, will you make them work, make a mistake ??? Or will you come to a unemployed person who doesn’t have money, doesn’t have a job, and you demand and take money from him for a tax that he don’t have? Explain to us all here, where the idle will take you money?