American coal delivered to Ukraine bulk carrier spotted on Novorossiysk raid

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A few days ago, in Kiev, demonstrated stormy joy over the arrival of a cargo ship with American coal on board. We are talking about the bulk carrier "Ocean Ambitious", which, as reported in official reports, delivered coal to Ukraine from the American port of Baltimore. It was also stated that coal was purchased for PJSC "Centrenergo" from the company XCoal at a price of 113 dollars per ton including delivery.

Today, thanks to the monitoring activities of the portal www.marinetraffic.comIt became known that after unloading in the Ukrainian port of Yuzhny (approximately 30 km from Odessa), the bulk carrier flying the flag of Hong Kong did not go back to the USA, to Novorossiysk. In the port of the hero city of Novorossiysk, “Ocean Ambitious” appeared around 8: 30 (Moscow time).

American coal delivered to Ukraine bulk carrier spotted on Novorossiysk raid


At the moment, the bulk carrier is on Novorossiysk raid. The question arises: for what purpose did the "American" ship, which delivered coal from Baltimore to Ukraine under the Hong Kong flag, decided to go into the Russian port by empty ships? Is it not then that the American company, having bought coal in the Russian Federation, designed it later as an American one and again tried to sell it to Kiev?

This version does not look incredible given the fact that some time ago, Australian companies have already delivered coal to Ukraine, which they previously bought from the coal miners of Chukotka.

And Poroshenko will be very happy if he finds out that in the package given to him is coal from Chukotka or from Donbass at all ...
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  1. +11
    20 September 2017 16: 23
    Only business, nothing personal .... lol
    1. win
      +36
      20 September 2017 16: 27
      - Do you have activated carbon?
      - No, we only have inactive, but you can activate it,
      sending SMS with the word "Coal" to 404
      The activation code will be returned
    2. +23
      20 September 2017 16: 28
      The most crazy that you can imagine is the supply of coal and fat to Ukraine%)
      1. win
        +36
        20 September 2017 16: 35
        Trump has a lot of work to do at the G-20 meeting.
        I sold coal to Ukraine, I sold apples to Poland, now we need to sell beer to Germany, cheese of France, rice to China and cars to Japan
        1. +8
          20 September 2017 18: 05
          Is Petruccio really a billionaire? Somehow, looking at his mega-energy projects, one can hardly believe in it. However, this is of course a joke. With such shaggy fellow citizens, even Piglet can become a billionaire.
          1. +4
            21 September 2017 06: 46
            Quote: Monos
            Is Petruccio really a billionaire? Somehow, looking at his mega-energy projects, one can hardly believe in it.

            Petyunya doesn’t buy coal for herself. He vparivaet his Ukrainians. He is in the chain of sellers. And Petruchio poher where to buy coal. The main thing is to become one of the sales links. Broke off with coal from the Donbass, he found another place.
            So, don’t doubt Petina’s corrupt nature. And WTO is his attitude towards citizens with whom he steers on the face and on the face. They are for him a source of income. No more and no less.
            This is the choice of Ukrainians - we will be cows of which the whole world is milking, but the main thing is that the crest is not Russian. And I agree - they are non-Russians.
        2. +5
          20 September 2017 18: 38
          Quote: Siegen
          rice to china

          Well, here he was late. In 2016, about 4 thousand tons of rice worth about 770 thousand American rubles were delivered from Russia to China. Sometimes it happens. We, too, are not born. laughing
        3. 0
          21 September 2017 18: 39
          And moonshine - of Russia)))
      2. +4
        20 September 2017 18: 38
        Quote: Krabik
        The most crazy that you can imagine is the supply of coal and fat to Ukraine%)

        EMNIP, the supply of fat to Ukraine comes from Poland.
        We were born to make Kafka come true! smile
    3. +22
      20 September 2017 16: 28
      Quote: AleBors
      Only business, nothing personal .... lol

      No one colleague doubts this and everyone is happy Yes
      1. win
        +5
        20 September 2017 16: 36
        Following Poroshenko, who bought American coal from Trump, the Polish president flew to Washington to buy American apples
      2. +8
        20 September 2017 17: 29
        this version looks incredible for one simple reason -
        there is NO COAL TERMINAL in Novorossiysk !!!!
        he is in Tuapse, in Temryuk, in Azov in the end
        but not in NEW RUSSIAN !!!
        another nonsense of the media
        1. +19
          20 September 2017 18: 41
          Quote: nod739
          this version looks incredible for one simple reason -
          there is NO COAL TERMINAL in Novorossiysk !!!!


          Clamshell loading of coal at berth No. 5
          http://gelio.livejournal.com/198915.html
          1. +2
            21 September 2017 00: 11
            yes, I apologize, there really is a small terminal ... it's not up-to-date - no shiploaders, car dumpers and other things - grabs, the link indicates that unloading 1 car in 1-1,5 hours ... i.e. the norm is 2-2,5 thousand tons per day, and will Panamax be loaded for a month? ... Ocean Ambitious - Panamax - 65 thousand tons, how much will it be loaded?
            which shipowner would go so simple? - a day several tens of thousands of dollars ...
            Tomorrow will be a minute I’ll try to find out more, .. and so - this terminal is for VolgaBaltov and VolgaDonov, but not for panamaxes ...,
            Novorossiysk is of course a large port - but primarily for bulk and containerized cargo ... bulk - in the amount of -4,5 million, ... at the same port of Vostochny - only coal more than 10 million (for interest - type a picture - there it’s just loaded panamaxes)
            PS used to be engaged in coal - on the Black Sea they were loading via Tuapse - there the terminal is much more serious, through Temryuk, Yuzhny, even Azov and Berdyansk. but in Novorossiysk there is only cement and gravel there, it was somehow ... at the time of the construction of Olympic facilities ...
            Now I’m most interested in what will load this bulk carrier?
          2. +1
            21 September 2017 00: 19
            By the way, in 2005 or 2006, two trial shipments of coal were shipped to the Handimax, freight is insanely expensive, the total cost of coal, including freight, exceeded the price of the same coal in Rotterdam by more than a third ...
      3. +4
        20 September 2017 21: 52
        The article was prepared, obviously by the enemies of American-Russian friendship. We sell and what? We are well, Donbas is good, Chukotka is good, Americans are good, Australia is good. All is well, but Ukraine has Maidan, but it does! Let them pay! Since antiquity, as the Greeks came up with the policy, the strong agree, the weak pay !!! Is always !!! And they will pay !!! Dissatisfied with the requisitions from Athens, they tried to leave the Athenian Union; they had to join the Peloponnesian Union, but there, no less requisitions were collected by Sparta. Since then, the world has not come up with anything new. It's so funny to watch when people think about universal law and equality, democracy for everyone. Gentlemen, read the History of Ancient Greece and Rome. Everything is invented and tested there. Those who know this rule, those who do not know. The funniest thing, in my opinion, was the formation of Great Greece. This is a rich state in the territory of Central and Southern Italy. In short, it began with the fact that the democrats arrived from Corinth. Having landed on the shore, they established contact with the local aboriginal population, it turned out that these tribes did not have a state system as such. Therefore, he was offered a wonderful development plan, democracy. They had to agree, though the newly arrived elites used the values ​​of democratic goods, but the aborigines became slaves, after all, someone had to work. )))) This is for short. So now, Ukraine wants it, there will be democracy for it, there will be coal and gas. Only more expensive for ordinary Ukrainians. Sincerely.
    4. +1
      20 September 2017 17: 33
      if the memory does not change from bulk cargo there cement and grain,
      coal terminal - no in Novorossiysk, cement will not go to the bulk carrier - a more specialized vessel is needed
      grain - yes, if they clean it well
      the option of loading bulk carriers is still big bags ... but it’s not coal anyway
      1. +6
        20 September 2017 18: 15
        Quote: nod739
        if the memory does not change from bulk cargo there cement and grain,

        And here they say that there is a coal teminal ..
        There are three container terminals in the port of Novorossiysk:

        terminal of Novoroslesexport OJSC (ZTK NLE) - Novorossiysk Western Customs Post;
        “Novorossiysk Commercial Sea Port” (NTK “NCSP”) - Novorossiysk Central Customs Post;
        “Novorossiysk Nodal Transport-Forwarding Enterprise” (ZTK “NUTEP”) - Novorossiysk South-East Customs Post.
        There is also a grain (JSC "Novorossiysk grain grain"), coal (in the territory of "NCSP") terminals.

        https://southlog.ru/novorossiisk/konteinernye-ter
        minaly.html
    5. CAM
      +1
      20 September 2017 19: 20
      rabbits thought it was love, but they simply bred ...
  2. +3
    20 September 2017 16: 23
    «Americanskoe "ship delivered under Hong Kongsky flag coal from Baltimore to Ukraine, decided to go empty exactly in Russian port

    Conspiracy!
    1. +14
      20 September 2017 16: 27

      This is just the beginning.
    2. +6
      20 September 2017 18: 02
      No! The ship does not enter the port just like that. It goes there either for loading or for unloading, there is no third. Although, there is still the option of emergency repairs or detention by the state authorities, but, I think, everything is much more prosaic: there is a load for a bulk carrier in Novorossiysk. Sailing a cargo ship without cargo is like riding a minibus without passengers - not a single operator company will take such an economically unprofitable step, especially Americans who are good at counting money. The ship found the cargo, that's all.
  3. +7
    20 September 2017 16: 23
    Perhaps Trump's plan is:
    1) buy cheap coal in Russia
    2) it to America, we write off all expenses on logistics
    3) we sell to Ukrainians at exorbitant prices
    1. +10
      20 September 2017 16: 26
      Quote: Sukhoy_T-50
      Perhaps Trump's plan is:
      1) buy cheap coal in Russia
      2) it to America, we write off all expenses on logistics
      3) we sell to Ukrainians at exorbitant prices

      Pukt 2) - excluded))) m-yes without a sucker and life is bad)))
      1. +1
        20 September 2017 17: 40
        Quote: forester
        Quote: Sukhoy_T-50
        Perhaps Trump's plan is:
        1) buy cheap coal in Russia
        2) it to America, we write off all expenses on logistics
        3) we sell to Ukrainians at exorbitant prices

        Pukt 2) - excluded))) m-yes without a sucker and life is bad)))


        If money is heard rustling means the sucker went to spawn (s) Mavrodi
    2. win
      +10
      20 September 2017 16: 34
      The Ministry of Energy of Ukraine is considering the possibility of switching thermal power plants from coal to hryvnia
  4. +6
    20 September 2017 16: 24
    Probably it is, but then these Ukrainian politicians and economists are completely nuts, you can’t openly earn money for yourself, anyway, buying coal from the “aggressor”! laughing And without thinking about your people at all!
    1. +10
      20 September 2017 16: 28
      Quote: Cutter
      Ukrainian politicians and economists are completely nuts,

      Sasha! Well, they buy the "European" gas!
      Well, "American" coal seems from the same opera.
      1. +7
        20 September 2017 16: 38
        Yes, Kostya, the opera is the same, it only surprises the stupid stubbornness of Ukrainian politicians, or maybe there is a "share" laid by someone "interested"? And you can earn money on your own people, they will pay, they will not go anywhere! lol
        1. +7
          20 September 2017 16: 48
          Quote: Cutter
          surprised stupid stubbornness of Ukrainian politicians

          And I am the people who endure these politicians
          Quote: Cutter
          or maybe there is a "share" laid by someone "interested"?

          Yes, it can’t be, but definitely. Moreover, such a margaaaaa that oh, she told her. And moreover, at the very top .... And the people are waving .......
          Avot photos of main interest
          .
    2. BAI
      0
      20 September 2017 17: 15
      And without thinking about your people at all!

      And when did they even think, especially about the people?
    3. 0
      20 September 2017 17: 30
      There is NO coal terminal in the port of Novorossiysk !!!
      1. kpd
        +6
        20 September 2017 20: 48
        but what is this?
  5. +6
    20 September 2017 16: 24
    It seems that the stripes will buy coal from us to sell ukram! The same story with gas!
  6. win
    +2
    20 September 2017 16: 24
    Business is business.
    The wolves are safe and the sheep are full ... drinks
    1. +7
      20 September 2017 16: 27
      Quote: Siegen
      The wolves are safe and the sheep are full ...


      The seven wolf kids are kicking:

      - Are you shameful wolves?

      - Be quiet the goat!

      drinks
      1. win
        +2
        20 September 2017 16: 46
        - Hello! Is it an animal protection society?
        - Yes. And who offended you? drinks
  7. +1
    20 September 2017 16: 28
    With suckers and do ...........
  8. +7
    20 September 2017 16: 31
    Last year, I bought coal 7 tons per ton, without delivery, it turns out that Russian citizens are more expensive than Russian Ukrainians. Yeah, it's a shame
    1. +11
      20 September 2017 16: 35
      Quote: ShM05
      I bought coal 7 tons per ton


      Probably to the country? Tons 5 - 7?

      Order a hundred-ton barge at the cottage and it will be cheaper.

      Not surprising wink
      1. +1
        20 September 2017 17: 01
        The coal base, everyone takes it, this is the price for the population, at least one buy at least 100 tons, there is no difference.
    2. +4
      20 September 2017 16: 37
      Firstly, coal is strife, secondly, as I understand it, did you buy home delivery? And then to the port. These are different things. And thirdly, there are such concepts as wholesale and retail.
    3. +4
      20 September 2017 17: 02
      Quote: ShM05
      Last year, I bought coal 7 tons per ton, without delivery

      The cost depends on the place of residence. Last fall, bought for 2500r. with delivery to the country .. But this is in Kuzbass.
    4. BAI
      +1
      20 September 2017 17: 18
      And we have not had coal for a long time. Either gas or firewood. I even thought that heating in the private sector was only firewood or gas, and all the small boiler houses switched to gas.
  9. +2
    20 September 2017 16: 33
    Yes, let them bargain and buy. Why should VO watch every deal in the vast oceans?
  10. +7
    20 September 2017 16: 40
    And Poroshenko will be very happy if he finds out that in the package given to him is coal from Chukotka or from Donbass at all ...

    The main thing is that the stamp should be

    The rest of him is on the drum ... you can yell, too much! wink
  11. win
    +5
    20 September 2017 16: 41
    Kiev. Stoker of a brothel (after the arrival of a coal ship from America). Hefty young
    the fireman was carried away by work - he throws coal into the furnace one spade for
    other. Suddenly an angry prostitute flies in with a huge bust in
    peignoir on a naked body and yells:
    -, stop drowning like that - customers slip off!
  12. Mwg
    +1
    20 September 2017 16: 56
    There is nothing unbelievable in the sale of Russian coal to Ukraine by an American company - it is much cheaper than transporting it from the USA. And the pompous statements of the Ukrainian leadership “abroad will help us” are for the people. people hawala so to speak
  13. +3
    20 September 2017 16: 58
    Before, I laughed at jokes about Russian business. Well, I probably sold vodka and drank revenue. Now I look at the business in Ukrainian and I understand that not everything is bad with us.
  14. +2
    20 September 2017 17: 07
    There is a passing cargo from Novorossiysk, and the ship does not empty from the Black Sea.
  15. +1
    20 September 2017 17: 10
    The question arises: for what purpose did the “American” ship that delivered coal under the Hong Kong flag from Baltimore to Ukraine decide to empty at precisely the Russian port. Is it not then that the American company, having purchased coal in the Russian Federation, subsequently designed it as American and again tried to sell it to Kiev?
    Just a laugh ..... !!! lol
  16. 0
    20 September 2017 17: 21
    Perhaps I went to take the bunker to go to the states.
  17. 0
    20 September 2017 17: 27
    this version looks incredible for one simple reason - there is NO COAL TERMINAL in Novorossiysk
    he is in Tuapse, in Temryuk, in Azov in the end
    but not in NEW RUSSIAN
    1. 0
      20 September 2017 19: 56
      Yes, really "no" ... But to "patriots" it does not matter, let them .... let them rejoice ... love
    2. +4
      20 September 2017 23: 46
      You have been answered this many times with links and photos and in text format — are you so stubborn but dull?
  18. +1
    20 September 2017 17: 34
    That’s how Americans are good businessmen. I won’t be surprised that they bought this coal from Ukraine in Mariupol for sale in Mongolia, and at sea this coal turns into the purest anthracite from Pennsylvania.
    I think in the same way dollars at 500 per ton, the Americans will supply coal to Ukraine from the moon?
  19. +4
    20 September 2017 17: 39
    Is it not then that the American company, having purchased coal in the Russian Federation, subsequently designed it as American and again tried to sell it to Kiev?

  20. +3
    20 September 2017 17: 54
    "Bulk carrier delivering American coal to Ukraine spotted at Novorossiysk raid" - and what of this? I don’t understand for what reason the enthusiasm of respected commentators. No one will drive a ship in ballast (without cargo). This is a bust for his operator company. Obviously, freight managers found a passing cargo for this ship, and, apparently, it will be grain. The law of maritime freight: always exclude the navigation of a vessel without cargo, as the most economic unprofitable mode of operation.
    1. 0
      20 September 2017 23: 50
      Have you ever met such a thing as sarcasm in your life? Plus - everything said can really have a place to be
  21. +1
    20 September 2017 17: 56
    Svidomity crazy.
    Again, the invaders are purchased.
    I drove from the USA or from us, but the information has already gone.
  22. +1
    20 September 2017 18: 22
    The law is not written to fools. This pack of robbers of Ukraine is unlikely to survive to the gallows.
  23. +1
    20 September 2017 19: 14
    In fact, a lot of American is not. But suckers still believe the labels and attached pieces of paper.
  24. +1
    20 September 2017 19: 29
    Lord, you can still bunker in the port !! that you are all right about coal ... there are so many ships calling for it in Nvrsk ...
    1. 0
      20 September 2017 23: 50
      Have you ever met such a thing as sarcasm in your life? Plus - everything said can really have a place to be
  25. 0
    20 September 2017 20: 32
    Loaded with a new batch of coal and delivered to the joyful Poroshenko workers? But what about the arrest for calling at the port of Crimea?
    1. +1
      20 September 2017 21: 22
      But what about the arrest for calling at the port of Crimea?
      And where is Crimea here? Where is Novorossiysk, and where is Crimea a faint look at the map?
  26. 0
    20 September 2017 21: 30
    Could buy in Donbass and not to steam with transportation
  27. +4
    20 September 2017 21: 43
    I don’t recognize VO ... REN TV of some kind ... we are considering the version, but what if he left for coal or not ???? negative
    But nothing if it immediately becomes noticeable that the American is carrying coal from Novorossiysk?
    And in general-- where is the port information, what is it loading to it? What version? There is a standard procedure.
    The whole runet is clogged with this "news" such as a zrad-bulk carrier went to Novorossiysk. They even write directly for coal! Already, there is no need for confirmations, they themselves have finished ...
    All of this is easy to verify. Above, several sober wrote that in practice no one drives empty, he tries to take the load (most likely grain).
    The news is not a VO format, # Chetamukhulov reaches senility ...
    not well i understand in xnumx tried
    Coronis bulk carrier delivered 71,7 thousand tons of thermal coal to Ukraine from the Republic of South Africa According to AIS, the ship left Yuzhny tonight and headed for Novorossiysk.
    .
    tried to inflate zradoperemogu, did not go ... a year later again ..
    My question is - does anyone understand what shipping is? Or the logic of transport without versions of air raids? * Normal without Ukraine and the Russian Federation in terms of air raids *?
    But what am I talking about ...
    they also say that Ukrainians are naive and that they repeat what they will be told ...
    1. 0
      20 September 2017 23: 52
      Have you forgotten about such a thing as sarcasm with frustration? Plus - everything said can really have a place to be)))))
      Yes, and hello to the reader who is reading all this and the heart-rending wailing nod768)))))))). Rare....
  28. +3
    21 September 2017 01: 44
    Why guess? See if it will be loaded with coal in Novorossiysk, and where it will go next.
    1. 0
      21 September 2017 02: 32
      The wisest comment. All Solovyov looked there was a lot about YOU Happy Holidays and good night, and then tomorrow at work ..... hi
  29. +2
    21 September 2017 01: 50
    It looks like exhaustion from a finger ... Journalists do not have the slightest idea about the specifics of the work of dry cargo vessels. If the charterer has no good reason to move the bulk carrier in ballast across the Atlantic, then the normal approach is to load the vessel with cargo, preferably in the unloading area, for its subsequent transportation back (in this case to the states). This is the benefit. This is precisely what the merchant fleet earns for bread and butter. Of course, I have no idea what can be downloaded in Novorossiysk to the states. Maybe the bulk carrier went there stupidly on bunkering. Now the Russian fuel to grab. In Nakhodka, for example, all who are near go to bunkering. You can meet the biggest ships there today.
    1. +1
      21 September 2017 06: 34
      I agree with you completely: no one will drive a cargo ship empty, I have already spoken on this subject. Definitely, the cargo was found for the bulk carrier, which is why it got to the berth, because it is possible to bunker with fuel on the roads from the bunker tanker, it is not necessary to occupy an expensive berth for this. I would like to add that the bulk carrier will not necessarily return to the United States, this is extremely rare when the bulk carrier is on the line. Usually these are tramp ships, they go where there is cargo for them.
  30. +2
    21 September 2017 02: 51
    ... why do horses need coal in general? ... they jump and they feel warm ... laughing
  31. +3
    21 September 2017 04: 08
    The right move !!! Why drive a bulk carrier in vain? We downloaded the Donetsk coal, called it American and sold it to ukakaine at the appropriate price! Everyone is happy, everyone is happy, everyone is laughing at the rulers from Kukuev, and yet another “peermog” has come! Donbass sold a corner of Russia and is pleased! Russia has sold the Donbass corner of the United States and is glad. The United States sold the "American" coal to Mr. Petyun Potroshenko, and also not at a loss. Petyunya received a “help” loan from the IMF and paid a coal to all the participants, getting into debt that he himself was not going to pay for it ... well, who would pay it and when he wasn’t particularly interested in it, since all the participants understood perfectly well that at the time of calculating such a country is likely to not exist ...
  32. 0
    21 September 2017 07: 51
    Yeah, and then Petya’s brain was completely gone.
  33. 0
    21 September 2017 10: 50
    Quote: Cutter
    Yes, Kostya, the opera is the same, it only surprises the stupid stubbornness of Ukrainian politicians, or maybe there is a "share" laid by someone "interested"? And you can earn money on your own people, they will pay, they will not go anywhere! lol

    The word "may" in your sentence is superfluous. Do not be surprised at this. Someone said well, "with whom you will lead, then that is what you need."
  34. Say
    0
    21 September 2017 13: 49
    Novorossiysk-Odessa: not far and a decent margin ...
    ... if only Bandera had enough plastic bags to pack all the coal.
  35. 0
    21 September 2017 14: 58
    another ukrov divorce, although no, it's just another round of corruption and I think who needs it, everyone knows whose coal it is.