September 21 - World Russian Union Day

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In the world, according to official UN statistics, about 127 million Russians live. Of these, more than 111 million Russian - in the Russian Federation (data from Rosstat).

September 21 - World Russian Union Day




The UN numbers cannot but cause bewilderment if only because the rest of the world (without regard to the territory of Russia accounts for) supposedly accounts for the entire 16 million ethnic Russians. One can argue with this, assuming that on the territory of Ukraine alone about 34% consider themselves ethnic Russians, and this (assuming that the population of Ukraine is 38-39 million people) is already 13 million people. Moreover, 13 million is according to the most modest estimates - due to the fact that not every person with Russian roots today in Independence Ukraine is ready to call himself Russian, and not Ukrainian.

In the end, is it possible in general to somehow separate the borders not of the state, but of ethnic groups: Russian, Ukrainian, Belarusian? We all belong to one world, one big tree with a common root system. Some of their branches are trying to cut off from this tree, thus foolishly trying to declare themselves not involved in the Russian world. Others try to strike common roots.

However, despite this, the Russian world, as if someone did not relate to this concept, is huge and multifaceted. The Russian world is not only ethnic Russians born on the Central Russian Upland. This is a world of people who are committed to a unique Russian culture, traditions, way of life, thinking systems and readiness for self-sacrifice. Whether it is ethnic Yakut, Kabardian or Ingush. This is the world of people who at the gene level are endowed with a sense of unity, despite all the ethnographic and antopometric differences.

And the day of such unity today marks Russia and the entire Russian world. World Russian Unity Day appeared relatively recently in the calendar. In November, 2009, the initiative to find a place in the calendar of holiday dates for the World Day of Russian Unity, was announced at the II International Youth Forum "St. Petersburg and Young Compatriots: Bridges of Cooperation in the XXI Century". The initiative was presented by Alexander Ivanov - Chairman of the International Initiative Committee.
The proposed then (in 2009) declaration on the proclamation of World Day of Russian Unity was supported at the forum by representatives of 24 countries of the world. Since 2010, the holiday is officially celebrated.

Here is a complete list of the delegations of the countries that signed the declaration - the countries in which representatives of the vast Russian world live: Azerbaijan, Armenia, Belarus, Greece, Georgia, Denmark, Israel, Ireland, Italy, Cyprus, Lithuania, Malta, Moldova, Poland, Portugal, Slovakia, USA, Turkey, Finland, Czech Republic, Switzerland, Sweden, Estonia and, of course, Russia.

As you can see, Ukraine, which at that time was on the time interval between the first and second Maidan, decided that its people had no relation to the holiday, and therefore the signature of the Ukrainian delegates under the declaration is not. Today's Maidan elites of the neighboring state, apparently, are proud of the fact that even then Ukraine showed a desire to cut common roots.

What was the aim of public organizations when the World Day of Russian Unity was proclaimed? In fact, the goal is not one. This is the preservation of the ethnocultural originality of the Russian people, these are interactions between Russian communities and diasporas in various countries of the world, this is the promotion of the interests of the Russian public abroad, this is consolidation within the Russian world, which, by and large, has no framework. Why not have?

The answer is simple.

Can one be considered a person outside the Russian world and Russian unity, for example, an outstanding opera singer named Zurab Sotkilava? Zurab Lavrentievich departed the life of September 18 and bequeathed to bury himself in Georgia. At the same time, he himself is a man of the Soviet school, a people's artist of the USSR, who for many years devoted himself to the creative path of the Bolshoi Theater. Zurab Sotkilava was a professor at the Moscow Conservatory. Is Zurab Lavrentievich not an example of a man who, not being ethnically Russian, was an example of the infinity of the Russian world, its unity and depth.



Can one be considered a man outside the Russian world, the famous Marshal Konstantin Rokossovsky? It is difficult to imagine what Konstantin Konstantinovich (an ethnic Pole) would say to all those representatives of the current Polish elites who are trying to bring relations between Poland and Russia to a boiling point. As it is difficult to imagine the legendary marshal outside the Russian world. Some food for thought: from 1949 to 1956, Konstantin Rokossovsky was the Minister of Defense of the Polish People's Republic. Today, the Polish Minister of Defense - Antoni Macerevich ... As they say, feel the difference.



Frunzik Mkrtchyan, Donatas Banionis, Georg Ots - are these not outstanding personalities of the boundless Russian world?

The trouble is that there are reverse examples when ethnic Russians (at least, they speak about themselves that way) curse the unity of the Russians, as they say, on which the world stands. Any attempt at Russian unity by individual “friends of Russia” is perceived with hostility. A vivid example is the reunification of the Crimea with Russia, when the representatives of the ultra-liberal public continue to argue with foaming at the mouth that the opinion of the Crimean people was not to be taken into account. In fact, this is a betrayal from the Vlasov series, the seeds of which, unfortunately, still find fertile ground in the minds and souls of individual citizens.

The advantage is that such people are a minority, although this minority sometimes behaves too actively, if not aggressively.
In any case, the World Day of Russian Unity is an excellent reason to think that unity is not an empty phrase. The main task of the opponents of the Russian world is disunity. Unfortunately, it was actually possible to do this on the example of fraternal Ukraine - to disunite, set off, push their foreheads together.

Yes, it is brotherly Ukraine. After all, do not call the enemy the territory, which itself was one of the cradles of Ancient Russia and on which people with Russian blood live. And that handful of angry followers of Nazi criminals who seized power in this once grateful republic will not be eternal. it historical postulate.

And, as a conclusion, I would like to note the following: representatives of Russian culture may have different views on life, different political preferences and economic opportunities, but the main thing is self-identity, self-awareness of involvement in a large community of people united by the memory of blood spilled by our ancestors for so that today we can live in peace and harmony.
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  1. +7
    21 September 2017 06: 21
    Another Uzbek is much more RUSSIAN than those "Russians" in Ukraine .. Unfortunately.
    1. +11
      21 September 2017 06: 31
      Then bring ukroin populated by Uzbeks wassat
      1. +7
        21 September 2017 06: 33
        Isn't it better to evict Galicia? wassat Worthless, vicious and envious.
        Quote: Herkulesich
        Then bring ukroin populated by Uzbeks wassat
        1. +1
          21 September 2017 06: 48
          Well then, start practicing your generic greeting with a wave of your outstretched right hand. You will go the right way.
          1. +1
            21 September 2017 09: 25
            September 21 - World day of Russian unity

            Worldwide? Good.
            Where do they celebrate?
            1. +6
              21 September 2017 09: 53
              not in Israel. That's for sure!
              1. +9
                21 September 2017 10: 53
                And in Russia no one notes. I read about this day only this hour.
                What purpose did public organizations pursue when they proclaimed World Unity Day? In fact, the goal is not one. This is the preservation of the ethnocultural identity of the Russian people, this is the interaction between Russian communities and diasporas in various countries of the world, this is the promotion of the interests of the Russian public abroad, this is consolidation within the framework of the Russian world

                I read about the goals. And how are you going to embody all this? What is the action plan? Without this, all this is just a set of slogans on paper.
                In my opinion, in modern Russia, anyone feels better than ordinary Russian. We are strongly encouraged that anyone can be Russian, but other nations must be respected. Only here is the respect often comes at the expense of the interests of the Russians themselves. You see, other nations freely organize themselves, get together, speak different Russian languages, form numerous diasporas, build up mosques in their native Russian cities at a rapid pace, and noisily celebrate their national holidays ... All this indicates that other nations more often do not join Russian culture and identity, but go with their charter to a foreign monastery, change the archetypal appearance of Russia.
              2. +1
                21 September 2017 12: 44
                And in Israel already in the morning in the Russian bars sit ... celebrate drinks
      2. 0
        21 September 2017 09: 56
        Uzbakaina ?????
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          1. 0
            21 September 2017 12: 47
            "Right passenger", and you do not collect one negative and these spoiled mongrels .... but look more broadly at Russia - mother, and judging by the flag you are a "passenger" where you are going ...?
      3. 0
        21 September 2017 09: 56
        Russian language would pull you
    2. +8
      21 September 2017 06: 38
      Quote: 210ox
      Another Uzbek is much more RUSSIAN than those "Russians" in Ukraine .. Unfortunately.


      Russian - it’s everywhere Russian. Possibly without a mercantile trick. Very likely, with a wide soul, able to respond to any grief. It has been proven to be more merciful to defeated enemies than others. Less bloodthirsty and sophisticated in torture. More human in love for one's neighbor.
      And if an Uzbek thinks in Russian, dreams about Russia, speaks and writes, like Russians, he is most likely Russian ... belay
      1. +5
        21 September 2017 06: 56
        I agree with you. Russian is a state of mind ... Regardless, dark-skinned, maybe even slanting .. And other "Russians" who shout at every corner think first of all about the state ... their ass.
        Quote: Esoteric
        Quote: 210ox
        Another Uzbek is much more RUSSIAN than those "Russians" in Ukraine .. Unfortunately.


        Russian - it’s everywhere Russian. Possibly without a mercantile trick. Very likely, with a wide soul, able to respond to any grief. It has been proven to be more merciful to defeated enemies than others. Less bloodthirsty and sophisticated in torture. More human in love for one's neighbor.
        And if an Uzbek thinks in Russian, dreams about Russia, speaks and writes, like Russians, he is most likely Russian ... belay
        1. +13
          21 September 2017 08: 44
          "We are Russians - what a delight" - A.V. Suvorov

          One weirdo with a fake-sad face
          'Huddling' in the cabin of his 'Porsche',
          Said, "I am ashamed to be called Russian.
          We are a nation of mediocre drunks. "

          A solid look, behavior -
          All devil thought out cunningly.
          But the merciless degeneration virus
          Dismissed ingloriously all his gut.

          His soul is not worth a half
          Like a yellow leaf from broken branches.
          But the descendant of the Ethiopians Pushkin
          He was not burdened by his Russianness.

          They considered themselves Russian rightfully
          And they lifted the Motherland from their knees
          The creators of Russian seafaring glory
          Both Bellingshausen and Kruzenshtern.

          And not reconciling with a narrow worldview,
          Trying to look beyond the horizon
          It was considered an honor to be called Russian
          Scots - Greig, de Tolly and Lermont.

          Any of them are admirable,
          After all, to sing homeland is the law for them!
          So he gave his life without regret
          For Russia, Georgian Prince Bagration.

          Our language is multifaceted, accurate, faithful -
          He heals the soul, then smothers like steel.
          Are we able to value him immensely
          And to know him, as the Dane Dahl knew?

          What the hell is it! And in our time a lot of
          Speaking Great Language
          No worse than crest Mykola Gogol,
          What was once familiar with Pushkin?

          Do not bang your head on the wall
          And in a rage saliva sprinkle in vain!
          We are Russians! - so said Shevchenko.
          Read the kobzar carefully.

          In the soul love is filial cherished,
          All my life I worked up to seven sweats
          Suvorov, Ushakov and Mendeleev,
          Kulibin, Lomonosov and Popov.

          Their names remained on the tablets
          Like a true story of the basics.
          And among them - like a pillar - old Derzhavin,
          In whose veins the blood of the Tatar Murza.

          They go — servants or messiahs —
          Carrying your cross on bent shoulders
          How he carried it in the name of all of Russia
          Descendant of the Turk Admiral Kolchak.

          They instilled and nurtured love
          From centuries-old origins and roots.
          He is a Russian whose soul lives in Russia,
          Whose thoughts are about mother, about her.

          Patriotism does not sell to the load
          To berets, boots or coats.
          And since you are ashamed to be called Russian,
          You, my friend, are not Russian. You are nobody.

          18.11.2012

          http://www.stihi.ru/2012/11/18/11656
          1. +2
            21 September 2017 09: 09
            You can’t tell better ... hi
            Quote: Monos
            "We are Russians - what a delight" - A.V. Suvorov

            One weirdo with a fake-sad face
            'Huddling' in the cabin of his 'Porsche',
            Said, "I am ashamed to be called Russian.
            We are a nation of mediocre drunks. "

            A solid look, behavior -
            All devil thought out cunningly.
            But the merciless degeneration virus
            Dismissed ingloriously all his gut.

            His soul is not worth a half
            Like a yellow leaf from broken branches.
            But the descendant of the Ethiopians Pushkin
            He was not burdened by his Russianness.

            They considered themselves Russian rightfully
            And they lifted the Motherland from their knees
            The creators of Russian seafaring glory
            Both Bellingshausen and Kruzenshtern.

            And not reconciling with a narrow worldview,
            Trying to look beyond the horizon
            It was considered an honor to be called Russian
            Scots - Greig, de Tolly and Lermont.

            Any of them are admirable,
            After all, to sing homeland is the law for them!
            So he gave his life without regret
            For Russia, Georgian Prince Bagration.

            Our language is multifaceted, accurate, faithful -
            He heals the soul, then smothers like steel.
            Are we able to value him immensely
            And to know him, as the Dane Dahl knew?

            What the hell is it! And in our time a lot of
            Speaking Great Language
            No worse than crest Mykola Gogol,
            What was once familiar with Pushkin?

            Do not bang your head on the wall
            And in a rage saliva sprinkle in vain!
            We are Russians! - so said Shevchenko.
            Read the kobzar carefully.

            In the soul love is filial cherished,
            All my life I worked up to seven sweats
            Suvorov, Ushakov and Mendeleev,
            Kulibin, Lomonosov and Popov.

            Their names remained on the tablets
            Like a true story of the basics.
            And among them - like a pillar - old Derzhavin,
            In whose veins the blood of the Tatar Murza.

            They go — servants or messiahs —
            Carrying your cross on bent shoulders
            How he carried it in the name of all of Russia
            Descendant of the Turk Admiral Kolchak.

            They instilled and nurtured love
            From centuries-old origins and roots.
            He is a Russian whose soul lives in Russia,
            Whose thoughts are about mother, about her.

            Patriotism does not sell to the load
            To berets, boots or coats.
            And since you are ashamed to be called Russian,
            You, my friend, are not Russian. You are nobody.

            18.11.2012

            http://www.stihi.ru/2012/11/18/11656
      2. +3
        21 September 2017 09: 29
        Quote: Esoteric
        And if the Uzbek thinks in Russian, dreams about Russia, speaks and writes, like Russians, he is most likely Russian.

        No, he is an Uzbek loving Russia.
        In general, there are all kinds of Russians (like any nation in the world) - both good and bad.
        Attempts to attribute the best in the world to Russians and Russianness, and everything negative to everyone else is ridiculous.
        The world is diverse as well as 127 million Russians living in the world.
        There are different ones - everything happens.
        1. +1
          21 September 2017 10: 14
          Quote: tamnun
          Attempts to attribute the best in the world to Russians and Russianness, and everything negative to everyone else is ridiculous.

          You can subscribe to this!
          But who is here, in the comments under this article, engaged in this - ascribes to the Russians all the best, and to everyone else - everything is negative? Or are you only in a purely theoretical sense? wink
    3. +9
      21 September 2017 07: 35
      Quote: 210ox
      Another Uzbek is much more RUSSIAN than those "Russians" in Ukraine .. Unfortunately.

      I agree.

      It would be nice for a start to decide who the Russians are. If each Russian is scrubbed properly, it turns out that some of them are Krivichs, Uglichs, and others - glades, Drevlyans, etc. ...
      My vision: Russians are those who rose above their tribal relations and began to defend the interests of Russian civilization as a whole, to defend the interests of all the nations and nationalities living in it. As soon as one of the Russians begins to defend the interests of individual ethnic groups (nations), he ceases to be Russian.
      So the Natsiks who defend the interests of one nation (no matter which) are not Russian. Ukrainians living in Ukraine and considering themselves Russian and at the same time fighting for separation from Russian civilization are essentially not Russian.
      The task of the Russians is to raise the self-consciousness of the tribes to the realization of the interests of a unified civilization Rus, above their tribal tribes. Our ancestors were not accidentally united into one whole ...
      1. +8
        21 September 2017 08: 03
        The trouble is that there are reverse examples when ethnic Russians (at least they say it about themselves that way) swear the unity of the Russians, as they say, what the light stands on.

        And that is enough examples every day on the "box" !!! I don’t quite understand why to show Amnuel and Co. spraying saliva from the hatred. If only "for contrast"! In general, they must be thrown out from Russia to the country whose democracy they love so much!
        1. +1
          21 September 2017 08: 06
          Quote: Cutter
          I don’t quite understand why to show Amnuel and Co. spraying saliva from the hatred.

          It’s just against their background that the local “amnueli” seem to be arch-patriots. In such an uncomplicated way, we are dropping the ideas of liberalism drop by drop ... They suggest that we choose “moderate” from two false ideas, and about the truth — no, no.
          We must always remember that all media are under their control.
        2. 0
          21 September 2017 09: 01
          Quote: Cutter
          I don’t quite understand why to show Amnuel and Co. spraying saliva from the hatred.

          and on the other hand, it’s a vaccination
          and liberals generally need to give air more often as I open my mouth so you understand right away -IDIOTS
        3. +3
          21 September 2017 11: 39
          Quote: Cutter
          [why show saliva spraying from the hatred of Amnuel and Co.?

          This Amnuel is Gregory ...
          And there was another - which is Paul, a science fiction writer, a physicist.
          Both of them are Germans, but Pavel is a Russian German, and Grisha - a dog knows him ... NPO in a cube ... Distillation!
      2. 0
        21 September 2017 09: 46
        Quote: Boris55
        and began to defend the interests of Russian civilization as a whole

        and what is Russian civilization?
        1. +3
          21 September 2017 10: 00
          it is a civilization completely opposite
        2. +1
          21 September 2017 10: 21
          Quote: tamnun
          Quote: Boris55
          and began to defend the interests of Russian civilization as a whole

          and what is Russian civilization?

          And this is a collection of people who speak and think in Russian - their thoughts, creativity, values, customs and habits; all that emphasizes the originality of Russian culture and history, its difference from the culture of the West and East.
          You are also part of Russian civilization. No wonder the immigrants from the USSR in Israel are called Russians! bully hi
          1. 0
            21 September 2017 10: 35
            Quote: andj61
            Quote: tamnun
            Quote: Boris55
            and began to defend the interests of Russian civilization as a whole

            and what is Russian civilization?

            And this is a collection of people who speak and think in Russian - their thoughts, creativity, values, customs and habits; all that emphasizes the originality of Russian culture and history, its difference from the culture of the West and East.
            You are also part of Russian civilization. No wonder the immigrants from the USSR in Israel are called Russians! bully hi

            Andrey !
            Welcome.
            I agree, about Russian culture and universal values ​​(agree these values ​​are not exclusive only to Russians)
            I agree with the term Russian culture, great (certainly) - but I would like to understand about Russian civilization.
            I think there is no such thing.
            The Russian historian N. N. Kradin writes about the crisis of the theory of civilization in the West and its increased popularity in the territory of post-Soviet countries:

            If in the last quarter of the twentieth century. many believed that the introduction of civilizational methodology would lead Russian theoreticians to the forefront of world science, now we should part with such illusions. Civilization theory was popular in world science half a century ago, now it is in a crisis state. Foreign scientists prefer to turn to the study of local communities, the problems of historical anthropology, the history of everyday life. The theory of civilizations has been most actively developed in recent decades (as an alternative to Eurocentrism) in developing and post-socialist countries. Over this period, the number of distinguished civilizations has increased dramatically - right up to giving almost any ethnic group civilization status. In this regard, it is difficult to disagree with the point of view of I. Wallerstein, who described the civilizational approach as an “ideology of the weak”, as a form of protest of ethnic nationalism against developed countries, the “core” of the modern world system
            1. 0
              21 September 2017 10: 55
              Quote: tamnun
              Andrey !
              Welcome.
              I agree, about Russian culture and universal values ​​(agree these values ​​are not exclusive only to Russians)
              I agree with the term Russian culture, great (certainly) - but I would like to understand about Russian civilization.
              I think there is no such thing.


              Hello! The concept is still there. Here are the first links you get.
              https://www.e-reading.club/chapter.php/148483/40/
              Platonov _-_ Bitva_za_Rossiyu.html
              https://sites.google.com/site/civilizacium/home/c
              ivilizacium / russkaa-civilizacia
              http://www.dynacon.ru/content/articles/428/
              https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D1%83%D1%81%
              D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%B8%
              D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B7%D0%B0%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%8F
              Naturally, Russian civilization - this concept has a certain imperial connotation, includes the culture of many peoples. Yes, in fact, purely Russian culture does not exist - children of different nations, but of one civilization, took part in its creation.
              And about universal values ​​- in Western European and American civilizations (they are, in my opinion, close, but not identical) they are brought to the point of absurdity - well, there it is about LGBT people (although to promote their lifestyle at the expense of taxpayers, including in schools - this is an obvious bust!), because we are talking about the rights of pedophiles, necrophiles and even cannibals - this is, you see, their original human nature - and, therefore, they are in these of their MMM - inclinations have these very inalienable rights!
              And one person can belong to different civilizations. A Jew in Russia (and even a Jew from the USSR in Israel) is much closer to Russian in culture, mentality, and lifestyle — in everything that forms the basis of his existence, rather than in Falash or a Bukhara Jew. And at the same time, it belongs to both cultures and civilizations - both Russian (Russian) - and Jewish.
              Civilization, in my opinion, is a broader concept than culture, but culture is an essential part of the concept of "civilization." hi
            2. 0
              21 September 2017 13: 03
              Quote: tamnun
              ... I would like to understand about Russian civilization ...

              There are three civilizations in the world. Western civilization (do you have any questions about this?) Eastern civilization and civilization Russia. The difference between civilizations in their culture. The culture in the West is different from the culture of Russia and the East. The culture of Russia is different from the culture of both the West and the East. The culture of the East differs from the cultures of Russia in the West.
    4. +4
      21 September 2017 08: 57
      Absolutely agree!
      Russians need not only to be born, Russians need to be in spirit. And where does our Russian spirit smell? In the Kremlin? In the government? In local governments?
      That's when the next oligarch joins the cohort of those who were on the Forbes list, for a simple Russian Vanka so self-awareness and self-identity rise, it's just creepy! So he feels himself involved
      to a great community of people united by the memory of blood shed by our ancestors so that today we can live in peace and harmony
      and ... poverty!
      Probably, it is necessary that the Russians actually unite and choose the Russian government to begin with ... And their affiliation must be identified by spirit, place of birth and upbringing, and not by nationality.
      For that matter, Stalin was much more Russian, if not the most Russian ruler, than the Rurik-Germans so revered by some ...
      1. BAI
        0
        21 September 2017 09: 19
        And what did Urgant and Solovyov not please? Moreover, Serdyuchka is from Ukraine.
        1. 0
          21 September 2017 10: 01
          Urgant is understandable, but Solovyov?
    5. 0
      21 September 2017 09: 10
      Quote: 210ox
      Another Uzbek is much more RUSSIAN than those "Russians" in Ukraine .. Unfortunately.

      Are you Uzbek?
    6. Maz
      +4
      21 September 2017 09: 20
      It's a shame another, in the six millionth Israel, who is fighting without a break, we will give a fair tribute to the IDF, population growth and the lack of orphanages. They are simply dismantled if they appear from a terrorist attack and other disasters of war. The only orphanage is half loaded. And in Russia we have more than two hundred orphanages and they are fully loaded. Who does not believe - upload to the search about official data. And if you separate 111000000 million Russians into six lemons - the population of Israel, then there should be 18,5 children’s orphanages in Russia by Israeli standards. And there are almost ten times more of them! Such is the statistics. Our olinarchs would have invested billions in children, not offshore companies. But greed is overshadowed by brains. Where are you Sergius of Radonezh? Our priests are completely Swiss.
      1. 0
        21 September 2017 15: 14
        Quote: Maz
        Such is the statistics. Our olinarchs would have invested billions in children, and not offshore

        Yes, such statistics. And who are the oligarchs? Like Abramovich, so Khodorkovsky. Remove from the government and the media, people with Israeli passports, you look, and in Russia, something will change for the better. So your example of Israel is somehow not very convincing.
    7. +1
      21 September 2017 15: 08
      Quote: 210ox
      than those "Russians" in Ukraine

      Those "Russians" in Ukraine, who is this? Please explain to me, Russian, who (unfortunately) is still forced to live in Ukraine?
  2. +5
    21 September 2017 06: 35
    The article is good, it’s a pity that many Russians have just been made to believe that they are no longer Russians — the same Baltic states, where we completely forgot about our Russian brothers and sisters, who were declared non-citizens, are forbidden to learn our native Russian language, but our authorities do not emphasize this He sees ukroin, where 70 percent of the population got into the head that being a Russian crime. ...
    1. +1
      21 September 2017 09: 13
      Quote: Herkulesich
      The article is good, it’s a pity that many Russians have just been made to believe that they are no longer Russians — the same Baltic states, where we completely forgot about our Russian brothers and sisters, who were declared non-citizens, are forbidden to learn our native Russian language, but our authorities do not emphasize this He sees ukroin, where 70 percent of the population got into the head that being a Russian crime. ...

      only the Russians do not have their own republic in Russia.
      all shepherds have it.
      1. +1
        21 September 2017 10: 05
        in the USSR there were 15 Academies of Sciences, including the USSR Academy of Sciences. Question: which AN was not?
        The Russian Academy of Sciences was established only in 1991
      2. 0
        21 September 2017 15: 16
        Quote: vp90
        only the Russians do not have their own republic in Russia.
        all shepherds have it.

        Why do Russians have their own republic in Russia? They have Russia. And the fact that some shepherds imagined a lot about themselves is another matter.
  3. +3
    21 September 2017 07: 01
    The “Russianness” in the modern “RF” is slightly larger than the “Roman world” in modern Italy. The support of compatriots abroad goes further than "budget utilization". Even the professional "compatriot," Mr. Kosachev, rather viciously answered the proposal to support our people in the PMR. Donbass is generally the glorious grave of the "Russian idea." It remains to listen to the Odessa poet.

    For justice from last resort
    Scaring scum and raven
    Oh my God! When will Russia come?
    It’s very, very hard for me without her ...
    I'm here alone among the universal turmoil
    Overhead only stars and crosses
    The Lord whispered, offended as if
    Russia is here ... Russia is you ...
    1. +5
      21 September 2017 07: 11
      samarin1969
      The “Russianness” in the modern “RF” is slightly larger than the “Roman world” in modern Italy.
      good 100% hi
    2. +3
      21 September 2017 07: 17
      The events taking place in the DNR-LNO evoke other thoughts:
      My land, tell me, what's the matter with you?
      You often saw grief human,
      You've bloomed for us for millions of years,
      But you experienced at least once
      Such a shame and barbarity is it?
      My country, your enemies are threatening you,
      But above raise a banner,
      Wash his land with bloody tears,
      And let his rays pierce,
      Let them destroy mercilessly
      Those barbarians, those savages,
      That the blood of children is swallowed greedily,
      The blood of our mothers ...
  4. +7
    21 September 2017 07: 45
    get up, russian people !!
    again relevant
    1. +3
      21 September 2017 08: 06
      novel66
      get up, russian people !!
      This is a terrible dream to the ideological inspirers of "Russians understand." Everyone understands everything perfectly. Who and why did they turn Russian into Soviet, then into Russian. To make it more comfortable to manage in Russia, not to an indigenous minority. An indigenous majority.
    2. 0
      21 September 2017 08: 14
      For what is relevant. Where to get up.
      1. +6
        21 September 2017 09: 38
        that's a bore! it’s important - because they tear the Russian world in pieces, get up in the ranks, mother for Russia. objections?
      2. 0
        21 September 2017 15: 20
        Quote: Ken71
        For what is relevant. Where to get up.

        To begin with, educate children, teach them to love their homeland, speak Russian, without foreign jargon, and there you look, and things will go.
  5. 0
    21 September 2017 07: 51
    I agree with the author Russian is not determined by anthropometric concepts. Ukrainian fascist what he is Russian if he kills the civilians of Donbass. For me, more Russian representatives of other nationalities, whether they are Buryans or Chechens, who just protect these residents.
  6. +1
    21 September 2017 08: 53
    at first they pushed about TWENTY MILLIONS of Russians outside of Russia and now it is possible to spend unity day
    Or maybe to start a law to adopt that Russian can be a citizen of the Russian Federation upon birth ?!
  7. 0
    21 September 2017 08: 57
    how cleverly the postulate is used - if you are not with us, then you are not ours. However, there are many pitfalls. It is not up to you to decide whether you choose the path.
    For me, there is no difference — other Russian Ukrainians are just a passport, self-identification in society, etc. standard for a person in society (belonging to an instinct group)
    I prefer the USSR approach - Citizen of the planet Earth. And all these small-town Ukrainians-Russians, Georgians, Germans, etc. .. it's all rolling back ...
    Mankind has mastered new frontiers by changing consciousness. And dividing ourselves into climatic zones and groups pushes us away from the planetary and near-Earth boundaries.
    This is purely my opinion. Perhaps the opinion of a globalist.
    The holiday is aimed at preserving "Russianness" in the world, but at the same time there is no center of crystallization and preservation of Russian .. Russians in the world, for some time, are always individually for themselves. And this does not lead to success.
    1. +7
      21 September 2017 09: 13
      Quote: Catherine II
      For me, there is no difference — other Russian Ukrainians are just a passport, self-identification in society, etc. standard for a person in society (belonging to an instinct group)

      We all know this, it is called cosmopolitanism and it was invented by one small, but cunning people, in order to survive and rule the world .. How are you in Ukraine now!
    2. +3
      21 September 2017 10: 33
      For me, it makes no difference, the other Russian Ukrainians are just a passport
      But what about the story, in your opinion, it must also be destroyed ?! The wealth of the world lies in the fact that we are different, but who appreciates this wealth is a big question! hi
      1. +2
        21 September 2017 10: 50
        Quote: XXXIII
        But what about the story, in your opinion, it must also be destroyed ?! The wealth of the world lies in the fact that we are different, but who appreciates this wealth is a big question!

        Everything is described there in the tolmud ... hi Society should be divided into consumers and the rest and EVERYTHING!
      2. +1
        21 September 2017 14: 04
        Quote: XXXIII
        But what about the story, in your opinion, it must also be destroyed ?! The wealth of the world lies in the fact that we are different, but who appreciates this wealth is a big question!

        since the history is written by the winners and rulers, it is pretty distorted.
        But wealth diversity is true. But progress is relentless. The differences of the people of the global world are erased. For better or worse, this is for everyone to decide.
        I’m leading to that — because of self-identification there is so much disagreement — that this is hindering progress. Faith, language, self-identification, interests of groups - many wars began on this basis.
        Human achievements and accumulated knowledge must be preserved! This is the foundation.
        1. +1
          21 September 2017 14: 38
          The differences of the people of the global world are erased.
          Capitalism will not allow this, it will highlight the necessary and the unnecessary .....
          I’m leading to that — because of self-identification there is so much disagreement — that this is hindering progress. Faith, language, self-identification, interests of groups - many wars began on this basis.
          Here I agree with you, there is no such thing in science, everything is left at the mercy of progress. But the Nobel Prize has the opposite effect in science, which emphasizes the identity of the laureates (to which tribe they belong), thereby causing hidden interest in this nation.
          Human achievements and accumulated knowledge must be preserved! This is the foundation.
          Yes, mankind has always tried to maintain achievements, but how we manage them we see for ourselves. The balance of interests and achievements should be in first place in the world, and not the achievement of one goal in the name of one idea.
        2. 0
          21 September 2017 14: 39
          Quote: Catherine II
          I’m leading to that — because of self-identification there is so much disagreement — that this is hindering progress. Faith, language, self-identification, interests of groups - many wars began on this basis

          Well, you know, identification goes without a passport, just someone is more cunning, someone is more trusting! And then one nation comes into power all over the world .. All the finances they have! And the massacre begins (for Sunnis hehe)))) We are Russian. This device does not fit, have suffered already!
          To remove nationality, this is the idea of ​​Berezovsky and K. ... We will restore everything, although many have already changed their names more than once ... gee gee!
  8. +1
    21 September 2017 09: 04
    It is strange that among the signatories there is no FRG. Just now I looked at the "box" that there were 1,3 million Russian Germans. Even Merkel met with representatives of the "Russian community" before the election.
  9. +2
    21 September 2017 09: 10
    Unity is clearly not enough for us ... Until the thunder strikes, the man will not cross himself! And yet the Slavs, when necessary, we are able to unite and other nations around us to collect before danger!

    Break through and this time, men! Well, mother for Russia .. "For us, for gas and for special forces ..!" drinks
    1. +2
      21 September 2017 09: 18
      but it is possible without empty slogans, especially since the Kulikovo battle is a battle of Russians and Tatars against Russians and Tatars
      1. +2
        21 September 2017 09: 25
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        and you can without empty slogans

        Alas, you cannot be respected ... History cannot be forgotten and some are trying to clean up our memory!
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        more than that, the Kulikovo battle is a battle of Russians and Tatars against Russians and Tatars

        Funny saying laughing Apparently taken on Wikipedia ..
        1. 0
          21 September 2017 09: 52
          Quote: DEPARTMENT
          Alas, you cannot be respected ... History cannot be forgotten and some are trying to clean up our memory!

          so remember, otherwise it’s already been so “cleaned up" that there’s nowhere to go
          Quote: DEPARTMENT
          Funny saying Explicitly on Wikipedia taken ..

          there’s just no such thing on the wiki, but the fact that the mom’s army was a Russian historical fact and if you didn’t know that, then what kind of lyady you’re getting into an argument
          1. +1
            21 September 2017 10: 00
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            there’s just no such thing on the wiki, but the fact that the mom’s army was a Russian historical fact and if you didn’t know that, then what kind of lyady you’re getting into an argument

            You or your distant relatives, there were clearly .. The fifth column in Russia has always been laughing They’re just trying to expose different historical facts in order to humiliate the Russians and Russia! Some "wise men" climb straight out of their skin, just to spit in our souls .. Good luck in this difficult matter! hi
            1. 0
              21 September 2017 10: 08
              Quote: DEPARTMENT
              You or your distant relatives, there were clearly .. The fifth column in Russia has always been

              fool
              Quote: DEPARTMENT
              They’re just trying to expose different historical facts in order to humiliate the Russians and Russia!

              "with all the princes of Ordinsk and with all the power of the Tatarsky and Polovetskoys. But most of all, we came to understand many ratios: Bessermen and Armenians, Fryagi and Cherkasy and Burtasy, together with him the same thoughts and the prince are great Litovskiy and Yagailo olegol all Lyatsky, with them the same unity and Prince Oleg Ivanovich of Ryazansky ... "
              Moscow annals
              1. +3
                21 September 2017 10: 20
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                Moscow annals

                Well done! Only here is not a history lesson (there is a section on the site)
                We have a holiday with the Russians ... Please do not bother!
                Well, the Orthodox for unity! drinks
                PS And then I watch smart people of all stripes climbed and try to pick our dirty fingers in our souls .. We can’t break men!
                1. +1
                  21 September 2017 10: 37
                  Quote: DEPARTMENT
                  Well done! Only here is not a history lesson (there is a section on the site)

                  as soon as you immediately ran into a topic you didn’t know about the relevant heading, so why didn’t you write about the Kulikovo battle in the corresponding heading, but here ?!
                  Quote: DEPARTMENT
                  PS And then I watch smart people of all stripes climbed and try to pick our dirty fingers in our souls .. We can’t break men!

                  you?!
                  very easy
                  bo as besides cliches and silly slogans you have nothing to observe
                  I didn’t see you among the defenders of the rights of the Russian population in the SA, but here the whole of myself is so brave and unshakable

                  not here waving beer mugs, but in advance to defend the rights of Russians in the SA, the Baltic states, Kazakhstan, etc.
                  1. +2
                    21 September 2017 11: 46
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    besides cliches and silly slogans you don’t have anything
                    I didn’t see you among the defenders of the rights of the Russian population in the SA, but here the whole of myself is so brave and unshakable

                    not here waving beer mugs, but in advance to defend the rights of Russians in the SA, the Baltic states, Kazakhstan, etc.

                    Take it easy, "you are our defender" of the Russian population ..You are already beginning to annoy me with your whining .. negative
                    Once again for the "wise men" I repeat, here is the article congratulation on the Day of RUSSIAN Unity! Fuck off .. Flew like a crow and your croaking interfere with us ... Fershteyn?
                    1. 0
                      21 September 2017 12: 01
                      Quote: DEPARTMENT
                      Fuck off

                      well, feed yourself
                      Quote: DEPARTMENT
                      You begin to annoy me, your whining ..

                      Well, no one is whining, but your stupid slogans (by the way it’s not clear why you weigh in nete, but don’t smash the terrorists in Syria as they called earlier) weary too
                      Quote: DEPARTMENT
                      .. They flew like a crow and their croaking interfere with us ... Fershteyn?

                      I prevent what silly slogans to write ?!
                      1. +1
                        21 September 2017 12: 51
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        I prevent what silly slogans to write ?!

                        You whine disgusting and boring ... (probably out of envy, trying to prove something to me ..)))
                        I’ve seen a lot of these here and I can sort them ..
                        With you, just for fun talked ... hi
                        Goodbye and good luck in the historical site hehe
                        That’s it, dude got me men with his boring ...
                        (kick it yourself ..)))))
                2. 0
                  21 September 2017 11: 34
                  Another fan of Poklonskaya and her ilk.
          2. +1
            21 September 2017 11: 33
            Vladimir, he, like most, did not even know that Napoleon and Kutuzov fought against Tartaria.
    2. 0
      21 September 2017 12: 15
      We ourselves, the Russians, should unite. At least respect yourself. So that our friendship over the hill will not be looking for gas-oil-loans, or not our (?) Leadership. drinks
  10. +7
    21 September 2017 09: 24
    I will supplement the article. Today, all Orthodox people celebrate the Nativity of the Most Holy Lady of our Theotokos and the Virgin Mary. There is no post.

    Guardian Angel to all of you and your loved ones!
    Elect the Most Eternal Tsar the Most Glorious Lady of our Theotokos, the appearance of the Icon of Her Red Russia enlightened, commendable singing. But you, having an invincible power and merciless mercy, save and save us from all troubles, let us call Ti:
    Rejoice, kindhearted Mother, covering us all with His love.
    1. 0
      21 September 2017 13: 46
      Quote: Love is
      The Nativity of the Blessed Lady of our Theotokos and the Virgin Mary.

      It is interesting how God could have been born if he had not yet created anything: neither earth, nor water, nor light, nor darkness, including neither Adam nor Eve, was born yet the one that gave birth to him. wassat
      1. 0
        21 September 2017 15: 23
        The question is clear. But no one will give an answer to it on Earth. For man is a creature created and limited, both by time and by the mind. And God revealed to man, only that which man needs to know. No more, no less. Christians accept this with humility and are content with what is revealed to them in the Bible, and unbelievers proudly try to find the answer to this question. And some still giggle mockingly, considering themselves witty all-understanding clever people. But time comes, and a man passes into another world and, as the Lord Jesus Christ said
        ".... and that day you will not ask Me about anything." (John 16.23). So be patient.
        1. 0
          21 September 2017 15: 48
          Quote: Love is
          ... And God revealed to man, only that which man needs to know ... and are content with what is revealed to them in the Bible ...

          Did you claim that God wrote the Bible? wassat
          Quote: Love is
          as the Lord Jesus Christ said

          This master said, but God what?
          1. 0
            21 September 2017 18: 42
            The Bible is written by the Spirit of God, through people born of the Spirit. And it is the Word of God for all believers that God is the Lord in the Trinity Glorified to whom honor and glory! The Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. Amen!
            1. 0
              21 September 2017 19: 02
              Quote: Love is
              The Bible is written by the Spirit of God, through people born of the Spirit ...

              The Bible is a collection of revelations from various prophets with the exception of the revelations of the prophet Jesus. It was written by people with all their shortcomings and prejudices, and when you consider that it was written on parchment with goose feathers and according to the memoirs of the writer ...
              1. 0
                21 September 2017 19: 15
                Sorry. All that I wanted to tell you, I reported. But just know that if you want to be saved during this life, then repent and come to Christ Jesus, for the Kingdom of God has drawn near to you, believe in God and the gospel. God's will is that everyone would be saved. And he that calls on the Name of the Lord is saved. The main thing is to be in time.
  11. +6
    21 September 2017 09: 40
    Some of the great ones said that the greatness of a nation is determined not by money and living standards, but by ideals and aspirations.
    So far we have not been formatted according to the Western model - to be the Russian world.
    1. +2
      21 September 2017 10: 23
      Quote: glory1974
      So far we have not been formatted according to the Western model - to be the Russian world.

      How well you said Vyacheslav! They are trying to format us, but nothing comes of them .. Here and now they are angry in hysteria around our borders the dogs of Satan!
      1. +1
        21 September 2017 15: 38
        God forbid that they do not succeed.
  12. +3
    21 September 2017 11: 19
    Quote: Cutter
    I agree.

    It would be nice to begin to decide who the Russians are. If each Russian is scrubbed properly, it will turn out that some of them are Krivichi, Uglich, while others are glade, Drevlyans, etc. ...
    My vision: Russians are those who rose above their tribal relations and began to defend the interests of Russian civilization as a whole, to defend the interests of all the nations and nationalities living in it. As soon as one of the Russians begins to defend the interests of individual ethnic groups (nations), he ceases to be Russian.


    (to begin to decide who the Russians are)
    Short:
    The first name of the country is Kievan Rus, which was created by Prince Svyatoslav, a pupil of the voivode Oleg, having defeated the Khazar Khanate, nailed a shield on the gates of eastern Rome, imposing a tribute on Byzantium.
    Prophetic (radio broadcasting, etc.) is that word which is replaced by the Orthodox priests with the Jewish word the prophet, about rock (fate), that is, a person telling the future fate.
    A proprietor is a man broadcasting, talking about the future, but not about fate, for fate is a predestination, and the future is a multivariate direction but still a direction.
    And such people as the Prophetic Oleg, and Svyatoslav just do not give out names and names, for the Gentiles have a special relationship to the language.

    Kievan Rus is the key to understanding the name of the people.
    Engь Kievska, Rus Kie, the first three letters of the first word and the first three letters of the second word Russian .
    Kiy is one of the brothers who built the city of Kiev, and the name Kiy is translated from Old Slavic as a war club, a bulova, a war hammer.
    In modern Russian the roots of these words still remain.
    Cue a stick for playing Russian billiards is mace.
    Kiyanka it's a carpentry wooden ax, war hammer.
    That is, as I wrote above, Prophetic Oleg and his pupil Prince Svyatoslav were not ordinary people, moreover, pagans, but what is the main God among the Slavs? This is Purun, and what weapon did God Purun have?
    One hundred pounds Purun's War Hammer, in ancient Slavic language Cue.
    Rus carrying in his hands the war hammer of God Perun Kiy, this Rus cue.
    Naturally, Orthodox priests, when they fought paganism after the baptism of Russia, destroyed everything, and there were not stupid and educated people, therefore applying inversion and changing words
    KieBCRA Engb, and having destroyed all the data about our past, calling them barbarians, half-wild beasts, they destroyed everything that indicated the origin of the people of Rus Rus Kiy, later Russians.
    1. 0
      21 September 2017 11: 26
      Quote: R1H1
      Kievan Rus, Rus Kie, the first three letters of the first word and the first three letters of the second word RusKie

      The phrase "Kievan Rus" appeared only in the XIX century
      “We are Russians, what a delight!” Alexander Vasilyevich Suvorov
      recall the dates of the life of the generalissimo?
      1. +2
        21 September 2017 11: 58
        Another doctor of historical sciences and an archaeologist all rolled into one, remembering the entire Lenin Library as a keepsake.

        Are you sick? what the fuck generalisimus when from the whole post, one sentence is highlighted and mind you ..... Russian on white laughing (to begin to decide who the Russians are)
        From which an analysis unpleasant for you was carried out on one single word,
        word Russian.

        I’m starting to get cognitive dissonance from tension, trying to understand how the dates of Stalin's life can help in understanding the origin of the word Russian ??

        Well, let’s remind laughing the dates of the life of the generalissimo, and I’ll use the expression on them like coffee grounds (We are Russians, what a delight) I’ll try to prove myself that 1000 years ago there was no Russian sea (Black Sea) there was no Russian city of Kiev,
        which means the phrase Kievan Rus. belay
        And more than a dozen tribes of Krivichy, Vyatichi, northerners, Libra, Meadows, Drevlyans, and so on. not believing in the supremacy of Perun over all the Gods among the Slavs, who did not have a hundred pound hammers, they voluntarily abandoned their ancestors Krivichy, Vyatichi, etc. They began to bear the name of the Rus tribe, or another Rosich tribe ???

        Are you actually capable of forming soaps of more than 15 words? Well, for example, with five six sentences, for not a damn thing is clear.

        1.) The phrase appeared ..... then that?
        2.) ................. A.V. Suvorov ........ with any connection with the first sentence?
        3.) dates of life of the gene of the USSR seca ???? ................
        Then my thinking stopped altogether, trying to find a logical connection, with the second and first sentence.
        When you graduated from high school, did you accidentally pass the EG?
        1. 0
          21 September 2017 12: 05
          Quote: R1H1
          Are you sick?

          you will poke a finger in the anus
          Quote: R1H1
          I’ll try to prove myself that 1000 years ago there was no Russian sea (Black Sea) there was no Russian city of Kiev,
          which means the phrase Kievan Rus.

          there was no collocation of keivan Rus, there was the principality of Kiev
          Quote: R1H1
          Then my thinking stopped altogether

          apparently did not move
          Well, based on the fact that the concept of "Russian" you derive from the concept of "Kievan Rus", and the second term historically appeared later than the first
          1. +1
            21 September 2017 12: 14
            you will poke a finger in the anus


            1. After such expressions with such ....... communication ceases.
            2. Read for a start the Tale of Bygone Years A Word about Igor's regiment.

            3. You are probably a fan of the Viktyuk theater, the satiricon of Raikin,
            this is not a question, you can not even answer, see the logical conclusion of the first sentence.
            1. 0
              21 September 2017 12: 26
              Quote: R1H1
              For starters, read the Tale of Bygone Years A Word on Igor's Regiment.

              once again for those who are in the tank
              they didn’t drink the broodershaft, they didn’t graze the pigs together, therefore I already told YOU where and where to poke
              now on topic
              specify WHERE in the word about Igor’s regiment the term “KIEV RUSSIA” is indicated; the same applies to the story of temporary years
          2. 0
            21 September 2017 14: 38
            Deuce is your label.
            1. 0
              21 September 2017 16: 53
              Can you justify?
      2. +4
        21 September 2017 12: 06
        For Christians, the Slavs are barbarians and second-class people,
        say incomprehensible things you apparently didn’t understand the same thing?
        This is where the legs of the problem grow.
    2. 0
      21 September 2017 22: 47
      R1H1, many thanks for the interesting information.
      It’s a pity that you were interrupted ..
  13. +1
    21 September 2017 11: 41
    This is us, when we were little !!! fellow

    Normans, Vikings and Viking are the names of one and the same people. They were called Varangians in Russia. Normans - so they were called in Europe. But the Viking is precisely the warriors who attacked other states.
  14. +5
    21 September 2017 11: 58
    It is funny to read to me, RUSSIAN by birth, GREAT ROSS, as you can say, the appendages are measured by the appendages, often circumcised, who is more Russian. Moreover, these "Russians" do not forget that they are Jews, Armenians, ...., with two or three passports.
    Russians, Slavs, Great Russians, Little Russians, Belarusians! Happy holiday.
    May we not disappear in this swamp imposed on us! We have enough tolerance.
    fellow good
    1. +2
      21 September 2017 12: 15
      Happy holiday drinks
    2. +3
      21 September 2017 12: 58
      For us, the Slavs! We will show them the Battle of Kulikovo! drinks
      Millennial for our brotherhood! drinks
      1. 0
        21 September 2017 13: 05
        Quote: DEPARTMENT
        We will show them the Battle of Kulikovo!

        that's exactly what I'm talking about
  15. +2
    21 September 2017 12: 57
    DEPARTMENT,
    Quote: DEPARTMENT
    You whine disgusting and boring ... (probably out of envy, trying to prove something to me ..)))
    I’ve seen a lot of these here and I can sort them ..
    With you, just for fun talked ...
    Goodbye and good luck in the historical site hehe
    That’s it, dude got me men with his boring ...
    (kick it yourself ..)))))

    your familiarity and indulgence just touches
    you give historical examples absolutely not understanding the meaning and most importantly absolutely off topic
    and when you are poked into your inaccuracies, you stand on its hind legs and translate the argument into an indulgent pat on the shoulder of an adult man of an unconscious baby
    only in fact baby then you
    1. +2
      21 September 2017 13: 50
      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
      your familiarity and indulgence just touches
      you give historical examples absolutely not understanding the meaning and most importantly absolutely off topic
      and when you are poked into your inaccuracies, you stand on its hind legs and translate the argument into an indulgent pat on the shoulder of an adult man of an unconscious baby
      only in fact baby then you

      That's all, I agree with you ... Fuck off! Please, what do you need from me?
      Provoke me, well, well ..
      PS. That sticky liberal got hehe, these love to poke and find fault! But essentially a dummy ..
      Just that immediately change the weather vane and chat anyone! Careful men with such bores, there will be many of them here soon! negative
      1. 0
        21 September 2017 14: 41
        Quote: DEPARTMENT
        PS. That sticky liberal got hehe, these love to poke and find fault! But essentially a dummy ..

        funny
        and what is my liberalism manifested in ?!
        well, just interesting
      2. +2
        21 September 2017 14: 43
        By the way, a lover of Russianness, but why did they hook a representative of one of the most Russophobic countries onto an avatar ?!
  16. +1
    21 September 2017 13: 26
    The Kulikovo battle is not a very successful example of the unity of the Russian people.
    1. +2
      21 September 2017 14: 09
      Quote: Sivasa
      The Kulikovo battle is not a very successful example of the unity of the Russian people.

      That’s it, men need to forget the date ... "Some comrades" explained to us who we are and what our history means .. Soon the Great Patriotic War will not be won out by us, but the losses were shot by detachments and poor Germans just went for a walk to evil communists attacked us and they destroyed Berlin! laughing We close the whole topic .. crying
      1. +2
        21 September 2017 14: 33
        You take away your hysteria. Your arrogant, cheering patriotic cries and familiarity betray a serious mental disorder.
      2. 0
        21 September 2017 14: 38
        Quote: DEPARTMENT
        That’s it, men need to forget the date ... Some "comrades" explained to us who we are and what our history means .. Soon, the Great Patriotic War will not be won by us,

        fool
        Matserevich is not your relative ?!
        the symptoms are just very similar
      3. 0
        21 September 2017 14: 40
        Quote: DEPARTMENT
        Soon, the Great Patriotic War will not be won out by us, but the losses were shot by detachments and poor Germans just went for a walk to us and the evil communists attacked them and destroyed Berlin! We close the whole topic ..

        drink valerian
  17. +3
    21 September 2017 13: 29
    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    Quote: R1H1
    For starters, read the Tale of Bygone Years A Word on Igor's Regiment.

    once again for those who are in the tank
    they didn’t drink the broodershaft, they didn’t graze the pigs together, therefore I already told YOU where and where to poke
    now on topic
    specify WHERE in the word about Igor’s regiment the term “KIEV RUSSIA” is indicated; the same applies to the story of temporary years


    Honestly did not want to write.

    And I’m writing not for you anymore, but for other people who read the post and want to study their history in more depth,
    either to refute my statement, or to supplement it.
    1. You are not attentive to such an extent that if you indicate this every time, then you will slide into insults and dialogue will not work anyway.
    2. Kievan Rus is not a term. Kiev is the term. Russia is a term. Unlike Western analytical languages, the Russian language is synthetic, to which Hindi are related, it is India, Sanskrit is ancient Indian. Foreigners wrote Russian history in the 18th century after Peter the Great whose native language is analytical, maybe even dictated by the Vatican, so Kievan Rus may be a term for them.
    Everything is online, check out. What is the difference between the thought-formation of analytical and synthetic languages, since it is from this that the study of history begins, because the languages ​​of all peoples have changed over the millennia.

    Now about your mindfulness you write.

    (((Well, based on the fact that the concept of "Russian" you derive from the concept of "Kievan Rus", and the second term historically appeared later than the first )))

    I wrote clearly in black and white
    (*Kievan Rus is the key to understanding the name of the people.)

    Are you able to distinguish expression is the key to understanding?
    From an expression to derive a concept from a term? Russian from Kievan Rus?
    Actually the concept of two terms.

    Just in case, suddenly they didn’t understand again, the key to understanding is a certain logical chain, for example :,
    Kiev .... Prince Kiy ..... cue war hammer ..... 100 pood hammer Perun .....
    God Perun is the patron and protector of the prince's squad and the Prince himself.

    Further: I wrote Russian in white,
    ((((Rus carrying the war hammer of God Perun Kiy in his hands, this is Rus Kiy.)))

    Since I’m tired of explaining, I’ll be brief.

    I deduced the concept of Russian from the word names of the warriors of Svyatoslav, in those ancient times tribes, that is, many tribes, were always called the word by which they called the wars that collected tribute from them,
    and not the word that the tribe wore .... Krivichi, northerners, etc.
    People under the DUTY of the Rus were called Rus.
    For example: under whose tribute? Answer Rusov. Under whose tribute? Rusov.
    Russian is an adjective whose Russian.
    And the military clubs of Kiy, which they carried, including the military hammers of Kiy, as a weapon and as a symbol of power, Perun is the God of the patron saint of the prince's squad and the Prince himself.
    The warrior, Rus with a war hammer, and the warrior Rus with Kiy, are one and the same.

    So far, maybe in the future there will be some sort of information that will change my mind.
    1. 0
      21 September 2017 13: 42
      Quote: R1H1
      2. Kievan Rus is not a term. Kiev is the term. Russia is a term.

      then, for starters, you will learn how to formulate your thoughts: “Kievan Rus is the key to understanding the name of the people.”
      then you first learn to formulate your thoughts
      "Russia Kiev this is the key to understanding the name of the people. "
      in addition, you are now trying to pull your ignorance out of the ears of the puddle where you landed, Kiev is not a term. Bo, the state was a Kiev Principality just like other principalities were after, by the way, the Kiev principality was not a primary formation
      Russian is an adjective whose Russian.

      oh I understand sitting in a puddle do you like ?!

      The word "Russian" is a substantiated adjective, that is, a noun formed from the adjective "Russian" in the masculine (vocabulary) gender.

      do not go further, otherwise drown in a puddle
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        21 September 2017 14: 45
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        The word "Russian" is a substantiated adjective

        To go nuts, no one has insulted me like that ... Well, damn liberals! Well, straight. Well...
        negative Well, he would have come to me .. uh
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          21 September 2017 15: 43
          moderators and what is the problem ?!
          Why do we delete the post ?!
          people shouting that they say I would have met nailed, well, I left my address

  18. +2
    21 September 2017 14: 55
    It is high time for true democracy to come to life - those who consider themselves Russian souls - Russian. The main thing - do not disgrace your life is really a HIGH TITLE. YTD. Yes
  19. +1
    21 September 2017 15: 59
    She does not believe the author. Because the lie is all this. You need to start with nationality. There is a Russian nationality. It is determined mainly by the roots and place of birth. After that, it is established by the person himself, and in this case he can overcome kinship. It must be considered that Russians are those born of Russian parents in Russia. Further, Russians are those who were born from Russian parents not in Russia, or those who were born from one Russian parent. The latter with a very important caveat: such a born himself must consider himself Russian. There is no need to philosophize slyly, everything is simple. Ingush and Pole are not Russian - they are Ingush and Pole. If a Russian behaves ugly, and the Uzbek is white and fluffy, this does not change their nationality. This is Russian and Uzbek. But if the Uzbek wants to go into Russian culture, then he becomes Russian, to the extent that such a transition is successful. There are examples with the Jews. Different examples. Both sincere and not. So, everything is simple. Approaching a person: what is your nationality? If he clearly says that Russian means Russian. The Chechen will not say that he is Russian, and the Ukrainians will not say the same with the Belarusian. And they won’t say it right, because they perfectly understand their nationality.
    The second point - what is being Russian? Can I just announce that? No. It is necessary to comply with the moral principles of Russianness. The main one is faith, Orthodoxy. The remaining moral principles flow from it. Self-sacrifice and kindness are the original qualities of the Russians, which allowed us to accept Orthodoxy. This is the soil. Today, faith is violated primarily by the Russians themselves. Do they stop being Russian? No. These are ethnic Russians who destroy their national identity. It will go further, our people will disappear.
    The third. If there are any foreigners, non-believers who were kindly motivated on our soil, this does not make them Russians in any way. It just means that it was so beneficial for them, and the USSR authorities had to show friendship between the peoples, mainly at the expense of the Russian people - we encouraged everyone and everything to ourselves. The fact that someone is famous or loved in our country does not change the nationality of this person. Makarevich is an example to you. On the other hand, if a person is related to us in soul, then he is ours, even if he is a black man (Pushkin). So do not la la, author!
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      21 September 2017 16: 52
      Quote: Anton
      You need to start with nationality. There is a Russian nationality. It is determined mainly by the roots and place of birth.

      in fact, it’s not quite right to say what about Russian nationality
      rather it is a nation
      and if we talk about nationality, it’s the Great Russians
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    21 September 2017 19: 56
    Quote: DEPARTMENT
    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    The word "Russian" is a substantiated adjective

    To go nuts, no one has insulted me like that ... Well, damn liberals! Well, straight. Well...
    negative Well, he would have come to me .. uh


    Do not be surprised there is either a memory problem or attention.

    To the question of what nationality do the Slavs answer, Velikoross, Little Russia, Belarus, and whose generalimos he raised in his post above, that is, Georgians to the question of what nationality are you,
    I am not Georgian, but I am Georgian.
    A Russian adjective defining citizenship since the time of Tsar Pea (subject - under DUTY),
    Russian KrivichRussian VyatichRussian Drevlyanin, and if I say something about Prince Igor
    Russian Polyanin.

    I only wrote him my subjective opinion, which you won’t find on the Internet,
    I mean, a personal conclusion, and not retyping someone’s thoughts that I myself can find on the network,
    dialogue is valuable in this, even if I am mistaken anyway the personal point of view is always interesting.
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      21 September 2017 20: 14
      Quote: R1H1
      A Russian adjective

      in Yandex banned ?!
      Well, type Russian adjective
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    21 September 2017 20: 27
    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    Quote: R1H1
    A Russian adjective

    in Yandex banned ?!
    Well, type Russian adjective


    http://russian7.ru/post/pochemu-v-slove-rossiya-d
    ve-bukvy-c /
    Quote:
    Why in the word “Russia” there are two letters “c” If you make a morphemic analysis of the word “Russia”, it turns out that spelling it with two “c” is absolutely incorrect. So, “growing” is the root, and the ending is “ia.” Therefore, the second “c” here is definitely superfluous. Where did it come from? Russia and Russians Everyone knows that before Russia was called Russia. The inhabitants of Rus were called Russians, later - Rus, as well as Rusyns or Rusaks. Notice, all words are with one “s”. Such a spelling is also found in the ancient literary text "The Word about Igor's Regiment". Everything that somehow related to Russia, foreigners called "Russian". Perhaps, two “s” appeared in the word “Russian”.

    Source: Why the word “Russia” has two letters “c”
    © Russian Seven russian7.ru

    Priblichny..S..kiy, Georgian..S..kiy, china..S..kiy.

    Rus..S..ky, the letter C was added recently.
    Everything that was somehow related to Russia, foreigners called "Russian."
    And the history of Russia was 300 years ago, and before that, the Poles burned the entire library of Ivan the Terrible,
    not without the fate of the Vatican, as now not without the participation of amEeriki destroy the history of Syria.

    And 800-500 years ago, they wrote Russian ... Russian, Russian ...

    In short you ram.
    You can even complain to modders. For men, the topic is closed.
    1. 0
      21 September 2017 21: 10
      Quote: R1H1
      http://russian7.ru/post/pochemu-v-slove-rossiya-d
      ve-bukvy-c /

      you do not stop there, next time post immediately
      Quote: R1H1
      In short, you are a ram.

      clearly the arguments ended, although they did not start
  22. 0
    22 September 2017 09: 42
    "The answer is simple.
    Is it possible to consider a person outside the Russian world and Russian unity, for example, an outstanding opera singer named Zurab Sotkilava? Zurab Lavrentievich passed away on September 18 and bequeathed to bury himself in Georgia. Moreover, he himself is a man of the Soviet school, People's Artist of the USSR, who for many years devoted himself to the creative path of the Bolshoi Theater. Zurab Sotkilava was a professor at the Moscow Conservatory. Is Zurab Lavrentievich not an example of a person who, not being ethnically Russian, was an example of the infinity of the Russian world, its unity and depth. "

    And so on in the text. The author decided to make a substitution. All the figures listed in the article are of completely different nationalities (by the way, under the Georgian Stalin he tolerated silence, because, apparently, he did not go out according to the author with nationality and merits). And what unites them is not that they are Russian, but that they worked for the good of their state of the USSR and were Soviet people.
    First they abolished the day of the Revolution, which gave the state, for the benefit of which they all worked. Now they have begun to substitute citizenship and nationality. Where will this track lead? Why to create a national idea to pervert and hide our past?
    If they lie in this, then something is unclean here. It seems that the authorities are wildly afraid to admit that the USSR in its short history of 70 years gave as many outstanding people as Russia did not give before and does not give now. This suggests that the Soviet people greatly appreciated their state and worked for its good, and that the Soviet state provided much more opportunities for people compared to the Russian one.
    They took away the dream from people, and now they palm off the national idea of ​​their own exclusivity, as they palm off on the Americans. And look where America is now. And we are led by this Russian world to the same place.
    Ask yourself - what are you living for? Most answer that they live in order to earn money, that the family does not need it, that the Russians in the world are respected and feared.
    And ask the Soviet people what they were striving for. They will answer that they fought to ensure that labor is free, that the resources of the state belong to the people, that education and medicine are free, that cities are spacious and bright, that water and air are clean, that the village flourishes (and does not leave the city), fly into space (rather than buy the most popular iPhone or make the most killer tank) so that there is peace in the world, not war, so that people all over the world live no worse than in the USSR. And most importantly, that Soviet people (and not just Russians) should be loved, not feared.
    You feel the difference. People’s goals have become pygmy, imprisoned for their loved ones. The people are getting smaller. Like the ancient Romans, under which half of Europe was centuries old, turned into pasta pygmies ...