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EU - Kiev: Not to lose gas transit after 2019, we need negotiations with Russia

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The Deputy Head of the European Commission for Energy Affairs (EU), Maroš Šefčović, said today that the European Union intends to take "maximum efforts to preserve the Ukrainian transit even after 2019 of the year." According to Shefchowicz, Brussels expects Kiev to make progress in the so-called anandling. For reference: unbanding is unbundling by various activities.

Shefchovic noted that to a greater extent the future transit of Russian gas through Ukrainian territory depends on the position of Kiev itself. The above mentioned banding should lead, according to the European Union, to an increase in competitiveness, which should benefit the Ukrainian economy and increase the functionality of the energy system.

EU - Kiev: Not to lose gas transit after 2019, we need negotiations with Russia


At the same time, the representative of the management of the European Energy Commission actually made it clear to Kiev that it was time to abandon making meaningless financial claims against Gazprom and instead sit down at the negotiating table on the future of gas transit. Recall that today Naftogaz has set Russia new financial requirements for the Russian Federation in the amount of 5 billion.

Interfax-Ukraine cites the statement of Maros Shefchovich:
I suggested several times that tripartite negotiations could be the best solution to the dispute in the Stockholm arbitration if Ukraine is interested in them in order to find the most convenient solutions to guarantee gas transit for subsequent periods.
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  1. Vend
    Vend 20 September 2017 12: 52
    +8
    This is HORSE laughing
    1. cniza
      cniza 20 September 2017 12: 53
      +8
      Quote: Wend
      This is HORSE laughing


      Or Zradyuk. lol
      1. Jedi
        Jedi 20 September 2017 13: 19
        +15
        Marosh Shefchovich, Deputy Head of the European Commission on Energy (EU), said today that the EU intends to take "maximum efforts to preserve Ukrainian transit after 2019."

        And who will be able to maintain the GTS of Ukraine in working order?
        1. Nasrat
          Nasrat 20 September 2017 13: 35
          +7
          By the way:
          Suddenly: on September 20, the Ocean Ambitious bulk carrier went for American coal for Ukraine to Novorossiysk
          According to the site http://www.marinetraffic.com, the Ocean Ambitious bulk carrier, having unloaded a shipment of Pennsylvania coal from the Yuzhny port in Odessa, on September 20 left for American coal for Ukraine to the Russian port of Novorossiysk.
          1. okko077
            okko077 20 September 2017 14: 28
            +4
            I wonder what will happen to the "... tsam" if this coal is from the DPR?
          2. Kurare
            Kurare 20 September 2017 14: 34
            +7
            Quote: Nasr
            ... went for American coal for Ukraine to the Russian port of Novorossiysk.

            What !!! belay Ukrainians somehow all through the "anus": for American coal - in Novorossiysk, Russian gas will soon be received through Germany!

            Buy them a globe so that they finally understand who is and where!
            1. Lelek
              Lelek 20 September 2017 15: 20
              +3
              Quote: Kurare
              Ukrainians all somehow through the "anus"


              Hey. It is for this reason that in the fall of 2019, instead of un-banding, they will receive anti-banding. Well, the system is outdated, it has become thin, one hundred percent replacement of pipes and equipment of pumping stations and hubs is required. bully Is the ruin ready to pay for this work (prepaid, essss)? request Not. Well, no and no demand. negative
            2. rehev931
              rehev931 20 September 2017 20: 12
              +3
              and they have their own globe-the globe of Ukraine !!! laughing
        2. cniza
          cniza 20 September 2017 13: 37
          +4
          Anyone just not horses, they want to be just housekeepers.
          1. Jedi
            Jedi 20 September 2017 13: 41
            +9
            Well, let the EU and Maydaunas first agree on this issue, and then send them to negotiations with Russia. yes
      2. Solomon Kane
        Solomon Kane 20 September 2017 13: 43
        +10
        The evil spirits .....
        September 17th. The coming winter may become the coldest in the last 100 years, the UK will suffer most from changes in the temperature background. This conclusion was made by British climatologists, writes The Mirror.

        According to scientists, the cause of record low temperatures will be the effect of icy Arctic air masses and a decrease in solar activity. Moreover, the inhabitants of the planet will feel a sharp cooling in the fall. European experts recommend stocking up with warm clothes and warming houses before an abnormally cold winter.

        “The climate in the region, including London, Amsterdam, Paris and Lisbon, may change, the temperature background will become colder by several degrees due to global warming,” said Alex Sosnovsky, senior meteorologist at AccuWeather


        All question to the stoker Trump !!!!!!! wassat lol
      3. Slovak
        Slovak 20 September 2017 16: 41
        0
        persuade a psycho to voluntarily go to a fool for treatment?
    2. Maz
      Maz 20 September 2017 12: 56
      +3
      On TV, they loudly announced that in 2018 in Ukraine, the dollar was budgeted for 30 hryvnias. Already on the market - 26. In winter it will be even higher. But they do not see and do not hear us. To the wall of them, these Groissman and Wolzman, as I understand it, Chabad drives. Otherwise, it is logically inexplicable.
    3. DEPARTMENT
      DEPARTMENT 20 September 2017 12: 58
      +8
      In principle, it will be so ..! First they will humiliate and spread rot Russia, and then in a whisper "We love you, help. It's not my fault!"
      So in this situation (and it will be) are we really going to give slack again and write it off ..? After all, they hope for all this, as always .. Oh Russia is a kind soul! angry
      1. Vend
        Vend 20 September 2017 13: 06
        +5
        Quote: DEPARTMENT
        In principle, it will be so ..! First they will humiliate and spread rot Russia, and then in a whisper "We love you, help. It's not my fault!"
        So in this situation (and it will be) are we really going to give slack again and write it off ..? After all, they hope for all this, as always .. Oh Russia is a kind soul! angry

        Good must be with fists. For the mind of the Svidomo on the hill to give that bad thoughts flew out and demand an official worldwide apology. To think before spitting in the well.
    4. Monos
      Monos 20 September 2017 12: 58
      +10
      According to Shefchovich, Brussels expects progress in the so-called unbundling from Kiev. For reference: unbundling is a division by various activities.

      In this particular case, this means that Europe drives gas through pipes and receives money for transit, while Ukraine washes toilets in change houses. Ukraine is a country of unbundling!
      1. cniza
        cniza 20 September 2017 13: 01
        +3
        Greetings Victor! hi Until they wash their pipes, Russian gas will not go there after 2019, or maybe never.
        1. St Petrov
          St Petrov 20 September 2017 13: 02
          +2
          I don’t understand the point of drowning Europe for transit through a ruin - also more expensive than direct
          1. dvina71
            dvina71 20 September 2017 13: 34
            +3
            Quote: s-t Petrov
            I do not understand the meaning of Europe to drown

            Everything is simple here .. Ukraine, having lost money for transit, will go for handouts to the EU ..
            1. Amurets
              Amurets 21 September 2017 22: 49
              0
              Quote: dvina71
              Everything is simple here .. Ukraine, having lost money for transit, will go for handouts to the EU ..

              I agree with you. The EU’s extra mouth is not needed. And so Europe contains too many parasites, as the USSR used to be. I do not mean the union republics, but friends like Poland and the like, who scooped up money in the USSR and looked at the USA themselves. With the exit of the EU from England, it is unlikely that Berlin and Paris will stretch the whole of Europe.
          2. BAI
            BAI 20 September 2017 13: 42
            +6
            Transit through Ukraine means Russia contains it, if not, Europe.
          3. Lelek
            Lelek 20 September 2017 15: 32
            0
            Quote: s-t Petrov
            I do not understand the meaning of Europe to drown for transit through the ruin


            Uh, genatsvale, all the principle:
        2. Monos
          Monos 20 September 2017 13: 04
          +7
          Good afternoon buddy! hi
          I think gas will go into these pipes only if they belong to Europeans.
          1. cniza
            cniza 20 September 2017 13: 39
            +5
            Putting them in order will cost more than building new ones, only they are afraid to say this, only the storage remains valuable there.
            1. Monos
              Monos 20 September 2017 13: 44
              +8
              Quote: cniza
              Putting them in order will cost more than building new ones.

              And such a project will be interesting to Europeans. Make ukrov pay for repairs from IMF loans, and then take the GTS in their hands, promising to think about accepting them in the European Union. smile
          2. NEXUS
            NEXUS 20 September 2017 14: 59
            +5
            Quote: Monos
            I think gas will go into these pipes only if they belong to Europeans.

            Welcome. hi
            I have long had the impression, from the time of Yushchenko’s election, that Ukraine was deliberately ruined, while not breaking off ties with the Russian Federation. The question is, why?
            And my answer came out-That the West does not need Ukraine even as a territory ... but the ruin of Ukraine makes it possible in the near future to merge this project and hang this economic corpse on the shoulders of Russia. And then everything is just a calculation that the Russian economy, which is being strangled and already torn by sanctions, is dragging Ukraine (a fraternal country) and we will slide back into the 90s with default and bankruptcy of the state.
            That's how I see it today. Maybe I'm wrong.
            1. Lelek
              Lelek 20 September 2017 15: 45
              +1
              Quote: NEXUS
              That's how I see it today.


              Hi Andrew.
              About this very taldychim for at least 5 years. Open secret. But this is 3 \ 4 ideas, the rest is the assumption that Russia will get angry and block the krantiki, and there will be a good reason to accuse her of insecurity, economic and energy insolvency, and 33 more sins. Well, this is such a gift for our overseas sworn "friends" - again, Europe is in the clutches of Uncle Sam from the dark to the heels. yes
            2. Monos
              Monos 20 September 2017 17: 15
              +5
              Good evening, Andrey, hi
              Quote: NEXUS
              And then everything is simple, relying on the fact that the Russian economy, which is being strangled, will be torn by sanctions

              Plus banal robbery; plus a buffer zone; plus a hotbed of instability; plus ... Another five of these "pluses" can be called. I liked how Mikheev about American behavior said: "When the Americans somewhere something goes wrong according to their plan, they create chaos in this territory and get their profit on it." Ukraine is a vivid example of this.
        3. BecmepH
          BecmepH 21 September 2017 06: 02
          0
          Quote: cniza
          Greetings Victor! hi Until they wash their pipes, Russian gas will not go there after 2019, or maybe never.

          Oh, whether ...
      2. Cutter
        Cutter 20 September 2017 13: 04
        +9
        But does Russia need such a “reliable partner” with such a “reliable” transit? Nobody thinks about something like that ...
        1. Monos
          Monos 20 September 2017 13: 09
          +6
          Alexander, good afternoon! hi
          Quote: Cutter
          Nobody thinks about something like that ...

          Gazprom is thinking. smile What is there thinking! It has long been decided.
          1. Cutter
            Cutter 20 September 2017 13: 44
            +7
            Quote: Monos
            Alexander, good afternoon! hi
            Quote: Cutter
            Nobody thinks about something like that ...

            Gazprom is thinking. smile What is there thinking! It has long been decided.

            Victor, welcome! hi I guess how I decided it would be better to have "flows" than such a "transit" ... stop
    5. forester
      forester 20 September 2017 13: 06
      +1
      Kuev may and must negotiate with Russia, but only Russia does not need it - gas will bypass))), the piece of iron has already been launched bypass)))
  2. cniza
    cniza 20 September 2017 12: 52
    +5
    “Several times I have suggested that the best solution to the dispute in the Stockholm arbitration may be tripartite negotiations, if Ukraine is interested in them, in order to find the most convenient solutions to guarantee gas transit for subsequent periods.


    No, she died, she died.
    1. Masya masya
      Masya masya 20 September 2017 13: 03
      +5
      Quote: cniza
      No, she died, she died.

      "Non-volatility" to help them ... wink
      1. cniza
        cniza 20 September 2017 13: 05
        +3
        And not only to help, but also where else. lol
        1. Masya masya
          Masya masya 20 September 2017 13: 08
          +6
          Do you think everything fits? belay feel
          1. Smog
            Smog 20 September 2017 13: 21
            +7
            Quote: Masya Masya
            ALL fit?

            Definitely YES !!!!!!! laughing
            Marina love !
            1. Masya masya
              Masya masya 20 September 2017 13: 27
              +8
              Hello, Konstantin! love
  3. svp67
    svp67 20 September 2017 12: 56
    +2
    Deputy Head of the European Commission on Energy (EU) Maros Shefcovic
    Well, it is clear that the “EU commissioners” do not want to lose their “warm spots” and are ready to show their importance and necessity. But will Ms. Merkel and Mr. Erdogan let them into their “fatherland”? They have already divided this money ...
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 20 September 2017 12: 57
    +1
    Tyukh, tyukh, tyukh our iron flared up ... European citizens winter is just around the corner, and therefore take care of yourself first, and then about some Ukraine, which needs another 3 billion to be returned to Russia.
    1. Siberian
      Siberian 20 September 2017 14: 36
      0
      Quote: rotmistr60
      .. then about some Ukraine, which needs another 3 billion to be returned to Russia.

      Interest would also not hurt, which for 3 years ran
  5. JonnyT
    JonnyT 20 September 2017 12: 59
    0
    No no, now ballast called kakloreich on the shoulders of the EU. Soon they will have to pay reparations
    1. jjj
      jjj 20 September 2017 13: 30
      0
      They rely on marine gas carriers from the United States. But the Baltic can be covered with ice. But gas carriers of ice class are only in Russia
  6. HAM
    HAM 20 September 2017 13: 04
    0
    In, and how will we (from the words of the unforgettable Psaki) now buy gas produced in Europe? Russia disappeared, ay yay yay! cryingWe will persuade Ukrainians to have mercy ..
  7. Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 20 September 2017 13: 07
    +6
    For the new word mentioned in the article unbundling, you can add his synonymous twin - "and we have a hiring"
  8. Siberia55
    Siberia55 20 September 2017 13: 12
    +1
    Yes, of course, you can extend transit through the ruin, you even need to, but .... with an extra charge to the budget of the Russian Federation. But what about? It’s also YOU ​​who need transit through the ruin, gentlemen, not to us.
  9. Altona
    Altona 20 September 2017 13: 13
    +2
    What are they talking about? Want to disrupt US LNG supplies? All! Died so dead! laughing laughing
  10. Livonetc
    Livonetc 20 September 2017 13: 15
    +5
    1. Do not pay.
    2. Steal.
    3. The gas transportation system of Ukraine is extremely worn out and requires immediate reconstruction.
    4. Already existing branches outside transit through Ukraine can easily cover Europe’s gas needs, and even taking into account those under construction.
    There is an attempt to force Russia to continue sponsoring the humiliation and extermination of Russians in Ukraine.
  11. Egorovich
    Egorovich 20 September 2017 13: 18
    +7
    Kiev is offered to talk about gas transit after 2019. with Russia, but will the Russian Federation talk with Khokhloshtat? Has anyone asked Russia about this? Not. Goodbye, when you wise up, come.
    1. tezey
      tezey 20 September 2017 13: 47
      +2
      Maybe they will, only from tough positions.
  12. Dembel77
    Dembel77 20 September 2017 13: 23
    +2
    EU - Kiev: Not to lose gas transit after 2019, we need negotiations with Russia
    Only it will be completely different negotiations (personally my opinion).
    1. jjj
      jjj 20 September 2017 13: 34
      +1
      And with other officials
  13. garx
    garx 20 September 2017 13: 28
    0
    I feel Dill soon waiting for one disappointment from the EU
    1. tezey
      tezey 20 September 2017 13: 45
      0
      So disappointment is looking for someone. For most ordinary people, disappointment. For those in power, the hope of maintaining power.
  14. Msta
    Msta 20 September 2017 13: 31
    0
    Russia has long had time to completely abandon transit through Ukraine, it is time to end the constant Bandera theft of gas, oil and money ....
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 21 September 2017 23: 14
      0
      Quote: Msta
      Russia has long had time to completely abandon transit through Ukraine, it is time to end the constant Bandera theft of gas, oil and money ....

      The EU and the US have not in vain staged a coup in Ukraine. Remember the recent story. Through the association of Ukraine and the EU, Europe wanted to get uncontrolled and duty-free access to the EurAsEC markets, but then something did not grow together and I had to arrange a coup in Ukraine. Now is the time to pay for "Broken Pots,"
  15. tezey
    tezey 20 September 2017 13: 42
    +2
    Agitated. This is good, the more worried the higher the gas prices. As for Ukraine itself, it is clear here that they do not need gas from the Russian Federation; they will buy Russian gas in Slovakia. So everything is fine.
  16. tezey
    tezey 20 September 2017 13: 59
    +6
    I would solve this problem with the EU. Do you want to receive Russian gas through the Ukrainian gas transportation system, please. With one condition. The transfer of gas to EU consumers will take place on the border of the Russian Federation with Ukraine. But the problems and payment of transit, maintaining the technical condition of the GTS, Ukrainians will steal gas or not, your problems. sorry gentlemen Europeans. Business and nothing personal, the risks are great and they must be eliminated. Want to take risks, especially since the current authorities in Kiev are your clientele, well, you have the cards. Something like that.
    1. Astoria
      Astoria 20 September 2017 16: 04
      +1
      The transfer of gas for EU consumers will occur on the border of the Russian Federation with Ukraine
      You are not working for Petro Poroshenko by chance; he proposed such an idea last week.
      The risks still remain in Russia, suppose the United States gives Ukraine $ 2 billion (on credit lol ) - then the atoshniks come to the compressor station and cut the wires. The Russian Federation is left without export, Ukraine with the loot (it doesn’t matter that it will have to be returned), and Europe with an alternative not only in the form of American LNG, but also gas from the same Iran.
  17. den3080
    den3080 20 September 2017 14: 41
    +1
    What else is “un-banding” when Bandera is a national hero and gangs are full of territory. This is Impossible Mr. EU Representative, Utopia
  18. Serg662
    Serg662 20 September 2017 14: 49
    +1
    Quote: Theseus
    I would solve this problem with the EU. Do you want to receive Russian gas through the Ukrainian gas transportation system, please. With one condition. The transfer of gas to EU consumers will take place on the border of the Russian Federation with Ukraine. But the problems and payment of transit, maintaining the technical condition of the GTS, Ukrainians will steal gas or not, your problems. sorry gentlemen Europeans. Business and nothing personal, the risks are great and they must be eliminated. Want to take risks, especially since the current authorities in Kiev are your clientele, well, you have the cards. Something like that.


    It’s a great solution, it’s only hard to believe that Europeans will do it. They know well who they are dealing with, and I doubt that they want to pay for “unauthorized gas sampling”. Another thing is that ours do not bend again, as has happened many times (brotherly people, we can’t leave them in trouble, etc.)
  19. Elephant
    Elephant 20 September 2017 14: 50
    +1
    After the 19th, let the ukrofascists shove their gas pipe in one place. Time shows that with Poroshenko and co. you can’t have anything to do!
  20. Monarchist
    Monarchist 20 September 2017 15: 00
    0
    Quote: Kurare
    Quote: Nasr
    ... went for American coal for Ukraine to the Russian port of Novorossiysk.

    What !!! belay Ukrainians somehow all through the "anus": for American coal - in Novorossiysk, Russian gas will soon be received through Germany!

    Buy them a globe so that they finally understand who is and where!

    That they are on the drum where the gas will be, even from penguins
  21. Tolstoevsky
    Tolstoevsky 20 September 2017 15: 45
    0
    "... Expects progress in the so-called unbundling", and progress has been made in bolting on the collar
  22. APASUS
    APASUS 20 September 2017 18: 47
    0
    Marosh Shefchovich decided to score points before the election or what? Where is it tagging?
    It is not clear what will happen in Ukraine in a month, and Shefchovich gives advice as much as a year and a half in advance.
  23. sgazeev
    sgazeev 20 September 2017 19: 09
    0
    They will steal and not pay, not pay and again steal. drinks
    1. Ugolek
      Ugolek 20 September 2017 19: 37
      +1
      If I’m not mistaken, then about 40 billion cubic meters of gas will go to China through the Power of Siberia since 2019. Fresh news is about the Power of Siberia-2 project. Thus, even a hypothetical break with the EU under the gas agreement by 100% will not shake the economic situation of Russia. Since there is still gas supply to Turkey. In other words, the trump cards are not even in the hands of the EU, let alone Ukraine. Based on this, we can clearly say that Faberge of Kiev is clamped to an intolerable state. Further, Germany made it clear to amers that the country's energy security is not a subject for bargaining with Washington, and therefore Nord Stream-2 is already a reality. This reality simply throws Ukraine into its own shit, which it has done. I am silent about the Turkish and still possible South Stream, this is the final sentence for 404. But here is how the good uncle Vova will behave .... they freeze, periodically shooting in the Donbass and pouring mud over Russia.
  24. proletarian
    proletarian 20 September 2017 21: 46
    +1
    Well, as I said back in '14: There is no Internet gas coal, we galloped to know no wonder.
    And comrades, do not pay attention to the “flag”, as I was born in Ukraine, I’ll die here and die, and I won’t get away from nowhere.
  25. LeonidL
    LeonidL 21 September 2017 04: 55
    +2
    Talking for the poor ...
  26. bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 21 September 2017 09: 50
    0
    Russia needs to link negotiations with the federalization of Krajina. Or federalization and the special status of Donbass or the dismantling of transit.