Warm chair by Anatoly Serdyukov

Elected passions in Russia are gradually disappearing. Revolutionary waves subside, and in the life of the country comes a post-election calm, when you need to look around, fix the sails, lubricate the mechanisms, patch up the hull and prepare for further navigation. In connection with this preparation, many Russians are expecting certain changes in the Russian Government, which should breathe in the fresh wind. And, for a variety of reasons, in the current Government there is at least one individual who, to put it mildly, does not suit either specialists or, as they say, the general public. And this man is none other than the current Minister of Defense Anatoly Serdyukov.

During his tenure as head of the country's defense department, Mr. Serdyukov made such a number of miscalculations and outright blunders, even for a tenth of which in a number of other cases the minister could be dismissed without shame. We list only some of the actions or inactions of Anatoly Eduardovich in the recent period of his time at such a responsible government post.

The 1 scandal.

Identifying extortion of funds from the servicemen of the Lipetsk center of combat use and retraining. The system of extortion built in the military unit could be considered an ideal corruption scheme, the light on which was shed by those military personnel who decided not to cover their bribe commanders. It would seem that the Ministry of Defense in the person of its head, Mr. Serdyukov, should have done everything to clean up its ranks from vicious military personnel. But it was not there: criminal cases were instituted against those who spoke about the corruption mechanism in Lipetsk. Moreover, the law enforcement agencies helped the "fathers-commanders" of the garrison to obtain exhaustive information about who "allowed" themselves to disclose the terrible Lipetsk military secret. The “troublemaker” of Senior Lieutenant Sulim was fired from the ranks of the Armed Forces ... Minister Serdyukov remained in place ...

The 2 scandal.

The Accounts Chamber of Russia revealed that last year from more than 700 billions of budget money spent, as stated in the document, not for the intended purpose, a larger percentage falls on the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. As a result of inspections, more than 70 criminal cases were initiated, one of which concerns the theft of 90 million rubles allocated for the modernization of the military department website. Things are going on, the site is working as before, Mr. Seryukov remains in his place ...

The 3 scandal.

Last summer, President Medvedev in a strict form demanded that Anatoly Serdyukov deal with the lands of the Ministry of Defense, located in the Primorsky Territory. This status of the land could not allow to conduct a systematic preparation for the APEC summit, to be held on the Russian island in September 2012. However, no loud decisions on this issue then followed. The areas necessary for the construction, if they were reissued, so that it did not become public property. A situation that resembles the option "sewn - covered." Representatives of the maritime community have repeatedly made reports that the corruption mechanism for the use of these lands was in one way or another connected with the activities of ex-Governor Darkin in his post. But Darkin, as we know, was later decided to be removed from the governor’s seat, but Mr. Seryukov, who “reported”, for some reason, not at all to the President, but to the head of the Government, remains in his place ...

The 4 scandal.

Last year, the Government of the Russian Federation had to finally decide on the allocation of apartments for waiting-for-servicemen. However, the waiting list is nowhere, for some reason did not disappear. The corresponding question was asked to Vladimir Putin during his communication with the Russians. The Head of Government stated that the issue would be resolved at 2012 or at 2013, and the delay was due to the fact that the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation received inaccurate information about the number of servicemen in need of housing. In other words, Anatoly Serdyukov was not even able to count in a timely manner (or was simply not going to do this) how many officers are in the housing queue at the moment. But even after that Anatoly Eduardovich did not break up with his post ...

The 5 scandal.

Explosive disposal of ammunition in various regions of the country, which is detrimental to agriculture and damage to the housing and communal sector. After the letters with the requirements to stop the disposal, carried out in such ways, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, it would seem, went to meet the people, but as recently as March 10, such recycling was resumed again. Whether the results of the presidential election had a beneficial effect on Mr. Serdyukov, or whether the economic issue again played its decisive role, but the “aspirations of the people” again remained behind the brackets of the work of the Minister of Defense.

The 6 scandal.

The delay in payments to the military, which is the place to be even now. The salary for February in some military units located on the territory of various military districts is promised to be paid no earlier than the second decade of April. Representatives of the Ministry of Defense respond to this by associating delays with the “running in” of a new mechanism of control over the funds allocated. Allegedly, now the cash flow will be transparent to the limit. However, the transparency of the State Defense Order of the Russian Defense Ministry is not in a hurry to worry. The Secretary of Defense continues to sit in the chair ...

The 7 scandal.

Systematic flaws and even frank failures of the state defense order. The funds allocated over the recent period were often simply not used, and remained lying dead weight in the accounts of the Ministry of Defense. In this regard, they even had to appoint a special deputy prime minister who would have pushed Mr. Serdyukov to conclude agreements with manufacturing enterprises on the supply of new military equipment to the troops. It turns out that the minister himself and his inner circle without additional support can not spend the allocated funds in the right direction. The grand seat of Anatoly Eduardovich continues ...

The coverage of such scandals can be continued for a very long time. However, after each of them, Minister of Defense AE Serdyukov continued and continues to feel quite calm.

In connection with the possible reshuffle in the new Russian government, Serdyukov’s resignation suggests itself. But here Vladimir Putin’s words come to mind that ministers, like horses, do not change at the crossing. Let us hope that this crossing is over, which means that it’s time to look at one of the “trotters” of the national government impartially, and to give a person a chance to take a break from his “impossible mission”. Apparently, the minister himself will never mature the decision to submit his resignation.

Comments

[raptor_fallout]

It can be seen that a comrade has a steep roof in the form of a clan! But they will remove it, that's for sure! Give Rogozin the post of Minister of Defense !!

[vadimus]

It is high time to drive him to the neck. The army is only a disgrace

[Uralm]

Serdyukov is not a defense minister, but a parody, along with Makarov. how much we are already talking about this, This post is not for him, well, he does not pull.
Putin put it? And so he should clean it

[Churchill]

I remember how he took the parade on Victory Day! .. I was ashamed!

[vylvyn]

Exactly. It was evident that the whole parade was ready to trample under his feet.

[Flight Recorder]

Serdyukov formed the units of constant combat readiness, if not for him, then in 2008 Georgia would tear Russia to pieces, now Russia would not exist as such, but the army under his leadership gave a tough rebuff to the aggressor.
He reduced the snickering generals that existed at the expense of the state budget and theft of military property, including the institution of drunken warrant officers, thieves who were essentially dead.
Under his leadership, the most powerful state rearmament program was launched, which will eventually lead Russia to the Olympus of World Power.
Well, I’m waiting for the pluses for my fundamentally objective comment.

[Chel333]

Dear, Serdyukov did not form part of the constant readiness, they were before him, and he did not lead the Army to repulse Georgia, he has nothing to do with this. Regarding snickering generals and drunken warrant officers, give examples.

[Olegovich]

Regarding the snickering generals and drunks of ensigns, even examples are not necessary. It was in any part that does not recognize this, that one seems to have very bad memory.
And as for Serdyukov, he is a normal Minister of Defense, just his policy is fundamentally different from the long-standing policy of the generals - to scoop, spread rot and conscripts, young soldiers, to their personal plots, not to recognize obvious things. By the degree of openness, the voicing of problems in the army is much better under Serdyukov.
In general, what do you dislike specifically from what has been achieved: a growing defense order, a long-term strategy for rearmament, the supply of new weapons (for example, YaRS, Bulava), continued development of the military-industrial complex, increased monetary allowances, the construction and provision of housing for officers, an increased number of exercises of various sizes, an increase the share of contractors, the provision of fuel and ammunition at 100%, increased combat readiness of parts, outsourcing of food and service ??? Than a bad Minister of Defense: oh yes, he blocked the thief in the army!
Objectively, discontent is caused by a strong reduction in the number - but this is an objective requirement of the times. "Stretch your legs according to your clothes" - the Russian economy is not stretching. And new military conflicts are resolved either by small numbers and modern weapons, or by using weapons of mass destruction. Moreover, the dismissed were not thrown - housing and benefits. And without flaws and "shoals" it happens only where nothing is done and is silent.

Olegovich,
totally agree with you. What you listed are obvious facts that critics simply ignore. It was Serdyukov who had the very difficult and ungrateful job of seriously reforming the army. Naturally, such large-scale processes cannot go smoothly, there will always be nuances, shortcomings, and excesses (most of them are in places, because Serdyukov himself did not think he needed the military on his head), without this in any way.
But in spite of this, I want to draw attention to the fact that it was under him that Russia rose from 46th to 6th place in the world in terms of defense capability (in the Defense Review rating).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiVs1svEHDg

Friends, ready to catch your cons

[d.gksueyjd]

Of course "normal", like Chubais, Nemtsov, Berezovsky, Mavrodi, and this list can be continued for a long time. And tell me the location of the military unit where your ad is true.

[Wolkin]

Flight Recorder. I love humor. He laughed heartily. But the site seems to be serious, many may not understand.

[starshina78]

Are you joking, or what? If you hesitate, then the flag is in your hands, seriously, then, to put it mildly, you are deeply mistaken!

[irony]

Share the recipe for the potion, comrade. "Black box"! You have a lot of zaboristy, you can see it a mile away!

[Timoha]

did not appreciate your humor, Recorder! taken literally.

[Klibanophoros]

And what is intelligence to the country for? It is cheaper and more pragmatic to reconnoitre neighbors and enemies than to keep contingents of troops "under steam" ...
T.O. "units of constant readiness" is rather an indicator of the blindness of the General Staff and of the Kremlin in general, which will plug the holes with these units if it breaks through somewhere again. Normal countries do not have military surprises, everything is strictly according to plan, especially now it is not 1941 in the yard, there are satellites ...

[vlad61642]

Have you been to these parts? You must write the constant word in quotation marks. The army under the leadership of Serdyukov fought back ... Only a dim-witted person who knew the army from newspapers and the Internet could write like that. There weren’t much less generals. .Praporov reduced this undoubted achievement, but I would not credit it. In addition to the storekeepers, they also reduced mechanical instructors, foremen and other necessary people. Well, the last phrase generally says about the need to see a doctor. I, having started writing a comment, I didn’t read to the end, otherwise I would not write.

[woman]

iron logic, nothing to cover. Respect you

[d.gksueyjd]

You served in the Armed Forces, so you do not know about the types of readiness in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. Transfer to the Air Force on high alert for less than 2 hours. A real combat readiness depends on: 1 providing materiel, 2 staffing and class of personnel, SKILL COMMAND. ALL RF Armed Forces are in constant combat readiness

[Wolkin]

Do not remember who was sitting next to him?

[Strategy]

Yeah, Rogozin on the post of MO! Then NATO transshipment bases will not only be in Ulyanovsk!

[recitatorus]

Firstly, Serdyukov, although he bears the proud name of the minister, is not a minister, he is rather a zits-chairman! .. And secondly, the appointment of Rogozin will not affect the work of the ministry in any way!

[755962]

Serdyukov, it seems, will not remain idle. Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov may very soon resign to deal with "customs affairs." Serdyukov, who went on vacation not too long ago, will return to a new place, but not for this reason that many are unhappy with the military reform he is pursuing, Colonel General Leonid Ivashov, president of the Academy of Geopolitical Problems, reports referring to reliable sources in the Kremlin. At the same time, another source in the presidential administration denies this information.

It is still difficult to say what post Serdyukov will take if he leaves the post of minister. Probably, as a specialist in audit and fiscal affairs, he will head the government structure that oversees the accelerated creation of the Customs Union (CU) of the Russian Federation, Kazakhstan and Belarus, writes Nezavisimaya Gazeta. It is assumed that the union will start working in the next year.

Sources in the Kremlin do not exclude that Serdyukov may head the Federal Customs Service (FCS): the current head of the department, Andrei Belyaninov, with his own reforms caused outrage from both the business community and the country's leadership. http://vumo.ru/edukation/390-ministr-oborony-serdyukov-mozhet-ujti-v-otstavku-eg
o-otpravyat-na-tamozhennye-dela.html

[sergo0000]

755962,
Good news! Pleasing.
It would be nice to see Ivashov in his place. Or one of the GRU specialists.

[Churchill]

Of course it would be nice to see, but we certainly won’t see! They are too independent! ..

[sevas]

will not let Ivashov!
they didn’t let them go to the polls.
otherwise the elections would have flown, the ruling enemies of Russia!

[sevas]

in my opinion it explains a lot!

[Kremlin]

Quote: Strategia

Yeah, Rogozin on the post of MO! Then NATO transshipment bases will not only be in Ulyanovsk!

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and the trolls read the State Department’s instructions on Putin

[Aibolit]

Quote: Kremlin

and the trolls read the State Department’s instructions on Putin

They have such a job ...
ps if you didn’t need money, you wouldn’t be sitting here around the clock.

[Strategy]

Who are the trolls? Something a lot is written about them, and who they are is incomprehensible. And what kind of money from the State Department?

[Regularis]

Quote: Strategia

Who are the trolls?

Yes, here's one for example

sevas Today, 01:17 | Ulyanovsk transit: a reason to bargain 0
hammer on this zombie cattle!
it's cattle. which is amenable to suggestion from a zomboyaschik!

and logged over will write for

Churchill

[Kremlin]

Quote: Regularis

Yes, here's one for example

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Ivashov’s voter doesn’t write about PEOPLE WITHOUT PEOPLE here he stinks and shows through GOD'S ELECTIONS

[mengeleff]

Quote: Regularis

Yes, here's one for example

Why do you delete my comments? I call people cattle and cattle zombie?
What the heck?
Now liberals and trolls no longer touch this sacred?

[Kremlin]

Quote: Regularis

Yes, here's one for example

+100 Million
What matters, why are you deleting my comments?
This is what I call people zombie cattle and cattle?

[Aibolit]

Quote: Strategia

Who are the trolls? Something a lot is written about them, and who they are is incomprehensible. And what kind of money from the State Department?

Are you naive in nature or pretending to be?

[Igorboss16]

I think the military can directly claim this post with great experience and authority and merit. only they can understand all the problems surrounding the military and not like these nonsense, then give us armored vehicles to us or Mistral for some kind of hell would such babos get into the wind, right now, the NKVD

[Reader]

Quote: Igorboss16

NKVD would be right now

[vylvyn]

Yes, this is a very strange and incomprehensible decision about Ulyanovsk. Only one thing comes to mind - someone really needs Afghan drug trafficking. A military base is a very good cover. GosNarkoKontrol will not go, although the STC itself indulges in this.

[arkady149]

Transshipment bases of what? Afghan heroin? The production of which has grown with the introduction of NATO troops 40 times.

[vylvyn]

Why Rogozin? Although Kazakhstan is more visible, we will not argue. Rogozin, so Rogozin. Or maybe still a son or daughter of Nazarbayev?

[vovan1949]

Only not Nazarbayev’s family, it will be like in Kazakhstan - sheer corruption.

[vylvyn]

Well yo-mayo, the Kazakhs have blundered. They don’t understand the joke. Okay, I'll write everywhere - a shovel. (Do they even know this or not?)

[Wolkin]

He is not

comrade!

and Mr., and even the Minister of Defense.

[woman]

Rogozin is already not the one who evidently took a sip from the trough of the magic drink and is so reluctant to come off.

[domokl]

Serdyukov’s resignation has been resolved a long time ago .. Serdyukov himself knows about this .. And the point here is not so much in his affairs as in the tasks that were set for him ... But the task was globally one-to break the old Soviet army, so that later on in ruins start building a new Russian one ... Well, we, like all normal ones, cannot take the good from the old and add new ones ... We .. we will destroy the whole world of violence .. to the ground, and then ...
Serdyukov really destroyed, really knocked out the leading military leaders under various pretexts, really brought the technical support to ruin ... And then the great Rogozin appeared ... Out of nowhere, as a gift for the army and the defense industry ... So he will have to build a new army .. .

[Dmitriy69]

Putin demonstrates an excellent reaction and determination, but, for some reason, is not on this issue. The mere presence of the furniture maker probably deprived him of many votes in the election.

[esaul]

Quote: Dmitriy69

Putin demonstrates an excellent reaction and determination, but, for some reason, is not on this issue. The mere presence of a furniture maker probably deprived him of many votes in the election

Dmitry, I welcome and want to offer just such an article from an Internet about Putin's fighting abilities and his reaction ----------- The newly elected President of Russia Vladimir Putin, without leaving his old post, has actively joined in the work and is already taking very significant steps in international politics. The well-known story of the Syrian aggravation and the desire of the West to get rid of the Russian military base in Tartus, makes different countries put pressure on Russia in the UN Security Council. US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton behaved quite shamefully, saying that the blood of peaceful Syrians is in the hands of those who veto the UN resolution today. Of course, this is unlimited arrogance, because everyone has long known that the State Department "pumped up" this situation at least since last spring. Earlier, we wrote about this in an article by Richard Angel as a mirror of the Syrian revolution.

Resting on the Russian-Chinese veto, the West was frankly confused. Now is not the 90s, when one could not give a damn about the absence of a UN resolution to bomb the country in the center of Europe, with the unbridled drunkenness of President Yeltsin and surrendering the position to the Minister of Foreign Affairs Kozyrev (sort of mister, please?). Today, it is customary to reckon with Russia, and this still allows us to prevent NATO wars with Syria. Here is the first positive result of the bipolar world. It seems that the power is really in the truth. Nevertheless, the West does not want to part with the right to push Russia, the West is used to it and considers it one of its pleasant privileges.

Weighing off the diplomatic slaps and clicks of Russia, the West thus hopes to “click through” to the resolution. So it was all 4 years during the presidency of Medvedev. The Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs idly “broke off”, but continued to lose ground, although it was certainly not at the same pace as before. Nevertheless, the resolution on Libya vividly showed that each time the West will do, if Russia does not do what it should. The whole world has witnessed the ruling and judging of the West by nobody and unrestrained by anything. Now everything will be different. Putin is a very experienced fighter in both the literal and figurative sense, and knows very well that even while retreating, one must continue to strike. It is necessary to answer a blow with a blow. This happened today at the UN Security Council.

After meeting with Serbian Foreign Minister Vuk Jeremic on Kosovo’s problems and directly linking Kosovo’s leader Hashim Tachi with human trafficking, the head of the Russian diplomatic department said in a joint statement: “We know how Western countries are proud of their position in defense of human rights everywhere and in any cases. Therefore, I expect that there will be no double standards, especially since in this case we are talking about a gross violation of all conceivable human rights, violation of all norms of human morality. ” After that, Lavrov expressed confidence that the infantility of the West shown today will not be infinite, and Russia and Serbia will continue to insist on the investigation of this egregious case into which Western countries were drawn.

This statement was made along with a statement on the Syrian issue. Obviously, Russia retaliated. Putin has groped for a sore spot and will now hit him more and more accurately and more accurately. Perhaps there will be several such places, so you do not need to look for them for a long time. The West has done a lot of injustice in recent years, perhaps Putin will try to play this card. Putin's goal is this: The West should develop a painful reflex. Each time an attack is made on Russian positions, a retaliatory strike will be dealt. The West should feel that this will not get away with anyone. This, according to the newly elected president of Russia, will cause a desire to cooperate, not to attack. Therefore, the West will no longer have diplomatic victories. Putin is clearly ready for confrontation, but also open to cooperation. However, cooperation should be equal. “Before you ask from Russia, be prepared to answer for your actions.” Something in short form looks like what awaits all the countries opposing Russia. Putin will not be idle. We wrote about this earlier in the article Putin’s toughest speech has not yet been made, even then it was clear to us what to expect from Putin.

By the way, now that Putin is just preparing to enter power, everyone can see a change in the vector of foreign policy. Does anyone still doubt that Medvedev was an independent president? If Putin controlled Medvedev, there would not be such a sharp transition. Yes, of course, he suggested the best way to do this or that case, but nevertheless Medvedev made the decision himself. Otherwise, Russia would not have abstained from voting on the notorious 1973 resolution on Libya. This resolution, like many other things, is an independent decision made by Medvedev, contrary to Putin’s will. None of the journalists could discern this then, although we always said that. In this tandem, both participants “pedaled”.

As for world trends in international politics, the diminution of the sovereignty of states did not begin today. In 1987, Bernard Kouchner, later the former Foreign Minister of France, wrote the book “Duty to Intervene” (Le Devoir d'Ingerence), he argued that democracies are not only entitled, but also obliged, to protect human rights, to intervene in the affairs of foreign states, despite their sovereignty. What is happening in Syria today is directly related to this statement. The French military is directly involved in this conflict, it seems to violate all international laws and Assad has every right to judge them according to the laws of his country, as any country would do.

You can get away with espionage for 20 years in prison, and for illegally entering the territory of a sovereign country, killing its citizens and attempting to overthrow the legitimate authority, the death penalty is a well-deserved punishment. That is why Russia supports Syria today. Putin himself will try to change Russia, but he will certainly incline Syria to this. He demonstrates sovereign development, readiness for change, reorganization of the political system of the country, in order to get a development model that is resistant to external influences. This is a very serious application. If the United States continues to hold on to stone-stone rudiments such as the Jackson-Vanik amendment, the Russian locomotive will leave the station, and the United States will remain standing on it with suitcases for unnecessary dollars. Although the incoming information suggests that Senator McCain has already come to understand the obsolescence of this amendment. The amendment will be canceled.

The new president of Russia absolutely certainly has in his political baggage branded tricks against which no one has yet been able to resist. The question, however, is whether Western countries should check for themselves how well they work.
----- I like such reactions from him.

[Brother Sarych]

After such posts there is doubt about your adequacy - excuse me! Some kind of perverted thinking - do we even talk about the same events? Personally, I see almost no argument in favor of your position ...

[esaul]

Quote: Brother Sarich

Personally, I see almost no argument in favor of your position ...

I will try to explain ...

Quote: Dmitriy69

Putin demonstrates excellent reaction and determination

My previous comment This is my answer to these words and that with the advent of Putin, this question, for sure, will not go unnoticed and will be resolved - optimally. Now I clearly expressed my attitude to the topic?

[Alex63]

Who prevented Putin from taking adequate measures against Serdyukov earlier, or does the defense minister not obey the prime minister? Does anyone really believe that Putin will do everything that he said during his "election" campaign? All his fits of eloquence and graphomania can only be explained by his desire to sit on the throne of the Tsar of Russia. For this, he brought Medvedev to avoid running for a third term, and the Constitution was redrawn for Putin and the presidential term was extended. And nothing will happen to Serdyukov, Putin will not give him offense. And if Serdyukov is destined to leave the post of defense minister, he will leave it with a promotion. Putin does not give up his own.

[recitatorus]

The owner should not have his own, not strangers! Only Russia! Let it sound pathetic, but this is an axiom !!!

[Dmitriy69]

Thank you, Valery, read with interest!
Especially surprising is the unsinkability of Serdyukov. The author counted 7 holes below the waterline, and he is still afloat.

[Tersky]

but it does not sink .......

[esaul]

Quote: Dmitriy69

Thank you, Valery, read with interest

Always please buddy!

[Bashkaus]

Mr. but not drowning!

[sinandju]

Secret Business Minister
Why should I dismiss the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Anatoly Serdyukov

Anatoly Serdyukov asked to resign in September 2007, without having spent a year as Minister of Defense. It was reported that he decided to leave the post of Minister of Defense of Russia, as he was in a relationship with the then Prime Minister Viktor Zubkov. Zubkov has Serdyukov’s father-in-law. Putin did not accept Serdyukov’s resignation. Retaining Serdyukov in a military post, Putin stressed that the tasks of modernizing the army, which, according to him, are "huge money", should be solved by an economically savvy person.
Now on the website of the Ministry of Defense it is indicated that economic activity is one of the largest areas of its work. All enterprises owned by the RF Ministry of Defense are combined into nine holdings managed by the parent company, Oboronservis OJSC. The general director of Oboronservis OJSC is Sergey Khursevich, who previously headed the Federal Tax Service in the Stavropol Territory. Chairman of the Board of Directors - Anatoly Serdyukov. Oboronservis OJSC manages the following companies: Aviaremont, Spetsremont, Remvooruzhenie, Oboronstroy, Agroprom, Oboronenergo, Voentorg, Krasnaya Zvezda, Slavyanka, each of which leads to including commercial activities, which, of course, are thoroughly classified. It can be assumed that the creation of A. Serdyukov by such a powerful group of commercial enterprises opened the possibility of pumping multimillion-dollar budget funds into the offshore pockets of trusted merchants. Rosoboronservis considers its activity to be successful: the revenue for 2010 of all enterprises included in Oboronservis amounted to 9,36 billion rubles, net profit - 403,5 million rubles, profitability - about 10%. And how much goes left is a military secret.
Under Anatoly Serdyukov, BTK Group CJSC, the former general director of Baltika Breweries, Taimuraz Bolloev, became the supplier of military uniforms for the army. In 2009 alone, the volume of contracts with BTK Group exceeded 1 billion rubles. Valentin Yudashkin received 23 million rubles for the development of the couturier’s form itself, and many elements had to be redone due to poor quality. And already that year the “cold” form from Yudashkin became the cause of colds of hundreds of military personnel.
In addition, the Minister of Defense paid attention to equipping the department with elite furniture. By 2010, the furniture at the General Staff of the Ministry of Defense was probably completely dilapidated. At least you could think so by examining the documents of the next auction on the public procurement website. Office Serdyukov was ready to spend 18,3 million rubles. on the setting of classrooms on Znamenka. In total, the Ministry of Defense required 125 pieces of furniture: from a sliding wardrobe to a floor hanger. Thus, the average cost of one new element of the interior was 146 rubles.
If you believe the report of the monitoring expert group published on the website elektion2012.ru, Anatoly Serdyukov is an active supporter of the agreement signed in 2010 on the purchase in France of two assault helicopter carriers of the Mistral type and the construction of two ships of the same type in Russia. Domestic large landing ships Alexander Nikolaev and Mitrofan Enko, which were considered combat-ready, were decommissioned. It turned out that the prices for ships were overstated, the documentation did not work out the transfer by the French side of modern technologies, without which the purchase for the Russian Federation lost its meaning. Vice Admiral Nikolai Borisov, who was responsible for the project, was fired by President Dmitry Medvedev.
After the transfer of Anatoly Serdyukov from the Federal Tax Service to the Ministry of Defense, the husband of his sister Galina Puzikova, the businessman Valery Puzikov was appointed acting and then general director of the organization, formerly known as the Federal State Unitary Enterprise “St. Petersburg Engineering and Technical Center of the Federal Tax Service”. Subsequently, the enterprise was reassigned to the Ministry of Defense and became known as the Federal State Unitary Enterprise "St. Petersburg Engineering and Technical Center of the Ministry of Defense of Russia". Puzikov served as director until 2010.
The center was a major recipient of government contracts from structures subordinate to the Federal Tax Service and the Ministry of Defense. In 2009 alone, in favor of the Federal State Unitary Enterprise, orders were issued for 2 billion 138 million 260 thousand rubles (about $ 70 million), of which 546 million rubles (more than $ 18 million) were received from the Russian Ministry of Defense for the use of the Tu-134 aircraft, rent and vehicle maintenance.
In December 2010, the Ministry of Defense held a tender for the supply of automotive equipment at the Sberbank site. As a result, the military department leased 553 cars, including Porsche Cayenne, BMW 5th and 7th series, Executive Mercedes, Volkswagen Multivan, Fiat Doblo, Fiat Ducato, Ford Focus, Ford Transit, GAZ, ambulances and other vehicles. The only participant in the competition was the Federal State Unitary Enterprise "St. Petersburg Engineering and Technical Center of the Ministry of Defense of Russia." The contract price amounted to 10,3 billion rubles. - The initial figure did not decrease.
In August 2008, during the Georgian-South Ossetian conflict, Minister of Defense Serdyukov could not be found on the phone for more than 10 hours, MK reported. Without it, no important decisions could be made. Apparently, therefore, the chief of the General Staff first stated that once the commander of the district’s troops is in place, then let him make decisions independently, based on the situation. But then, seeing that the matter was bad - the Georgians reached Tskhinval too quickly, he called one of his deputies, who had been dismissed, to the former chief of the General Operations Directorate of the General Staff (GOU GSH) Alexander Rukshin and asked: come back at least for a couple of days, we must to help, because the new head of GOU has not yet been appointed.
Rukshin refused. And how can you help me if almost all the GOU GSH officers were sent on vacation, since the new head of the construction department started moving the GOU to another building on Leningradsky Prospekt and now you will not find any documents or maps there. Then the Minister of Defense began to call Rukshin, but he answered him: "No, I don’t obey you anymore." True, then, they say, they still found the person to whom Rukshin obeyed - Putin. After his call, the general arrived at the General Staff and took control of the operation. By that time a day had already passed. Only then did at least some coordinated action begin ...
For only a fraction of these sins in any civilized country, the Minister of Defense would simply have to resign. But this is not our case.
http://www.sovsekretno.ru/magazines/article/3069

We will suffer another couple of months and find out seriously. Putin takes criticism or stupidly does not give up his own.

[Aleksandr3]

You are naive as a child, Putin, Medvedev and their whole team are henchmen of the West, therefore, nothing good has been done and will not be done for the Country, because if they really heal all the bank accounts controlled by the Bnai Brit organization will be blocked, but they really do not want to lose your blood and then earned money think and read Poltoranin’s book Authority in TNT equivalent and stop rejoice for a long time

[Strategy]

You better write your articles here, but just give links to others.

[EVIL]

Yeah )

If Esaul spawns with a post longer than a paragraph - reading becomes especially pleasant)

[rolik]

Well written, calmly and without excess dust. With pleasure I plus

[Skiff]

He would not be a furniture maker, but an undertaker would do.
It feels like Satan is roofing him, no one can do anything.

[sevas]

specially put by Putin man.
enormous amounts of money are pumped into the defense industry, and we need a person who knows how to collect kickbacks.
and everything is in chocolate.
Putin, like not in business.
something is being done in the army.
It’s funny to read some commentators. Everything good is Putin.
and all the bad things are Medvedev.
DO NOT NEED PEOPLE FOR FOOLS TO KEEP !!!!!!

[Nickname]

This is not eradicated among the people:
"The king is good! It is the bastards boyars who hide the truth from him!"

[military]

Quote: Skiff

Satan himself roofs him.

+1

[rolik]

If you want to dine with Satan, stock up on a long spoon. And now Perduk’s spoon has become a bit short, we’ll wait a bit.
In the photo it would be nice to add a spider’s web to add its center directly on his forehead.

[rate 60]

Putin is afraid to put smart and decent people on responsible posts. Against the background of loyal and mediocre people it turns out that he is like a strong and wise leader. Well, in general, how cool I am against these sheep. The trouble is that this company will be in power for a long time.

[Tersky]

I disagree with domokl, not to resign, but to the bunks that's where you need to send it. And here, as a rule, we plant for a bag of seeds, and for a car of banknotes are dismissed.

[wk]

Quote: domokl

Rogozin .. Nowhere, as a gift for the army and the defense industry ... So he will have to build a new army ...

Quote: raptor_fallout

Give Rogozin the post of Minister of Defense !!

Rogozin is a public politician and very successful, which was proved by his activity as a special representative to NATO, but there should be a military strategist and a good administrator - manager on the post of the Minister of Defense, I think the post of Minister of Defense is not his. In general, a personal opinion is that this post should be taken by a professional military man, preferably with experience in real combat - Shamanov is one of those.

[domokl]

Remind me, please, what was the name of the successful Rogozin’s party? Which he exchanged for the post of plenipotentiary to NATO? Rogozin is a purely Kremlin project, Putin’s project ... Putin took into account the mistakes of the past presidency when the team twisted its arms and did not allow many reforms to be carried out, and therefore it was preparing Rogozin for this position ...
Do you really think that the leadership of the Armed Forces and the country as a whole do not have decisive and knowledgeable people? There are, only they tied their hands .. Rogozin is not connected, and therefore does everything abruptly, with a break for many leaders ...

[Brother Sarych]

The Russian leadership is full of knowledgeable and decisive people - only with decent and honest people are completely annoying! And Rogozin is no exception ...

[leon-iv]

No, a competent manager is needed there. Tk who will fight with a saber on a horse there. And the minister is the MANAGER of a very high level. So it was and will be. Often, a combat officer will be lost in such a volume of papers of meetings of negotiations, etc. Let everyone be in their place.

[rolik]

I repeat, separate the flies from the cutlets. Normal Minister of Defense (regular military) + normal manager in the minister’s team, that’s the whole recipe for success.

[Nickname]

Absolutely right!!

[rolik]

Shamans experienced and correct warrior, it is a fact. But you still want to. so that the minister and the manager are excellent. But here a problem may arise. Maybe then it is better for Shamanov to take a normal admin with his help. Then it would be nothing. And it’s interesting how Shamanov and Rogozin would work together. Shamans tactics and strategy, Rogozin execution, rear, well, the information component.

[woman]

and what Rogozin did good. Maybe I don’t know, tell

[EVIL]

Alexander, you are absolutely right.

Taburetkin was initially put in office to break up, take the bumps and earn personal money as compensation.

Now white and fluffy should appear)
Rogozin - as an option.

[Drevnij]

It is necessary not only to remove from the post (most likely they will be transferred to another warm place), but to be shot. In aggregate, so to speak ... Only NATO transit through Ulyanovsk is already treason to the Motherland ...

[domokl]

Yeah ... guided by revolutionary legal consciousness ... By the way, the NATO transit through Ulyanovsk is not so much a merit of a stool, but a president and a newly elected president ... Taburetkin is a bargaining chip in this matter .. Like Chubais now or the chief orderly ...

[VAF]

Quote: domokl

Taburetkin small change coin in this matter

In many ways I agree with you, Shuravi, in many ways I do not, because while there are "family" ties Taburetkin is "unsinkable as an aircraft carrier", and it will continue to be like in that "bearded" joke "..... but what did I tell him? Tolya you are wrong and .... nothing else"!
And the army cannot stand on its hind legs:
- firstly prohibited by law
- secondly, all the "sane" Makarkin has long been fired, so no one
- well, and in the third place again "it turns out" that VKG again "... did not know" !!
So so far there is "hopelessness" in this matter!
The only thing that can be hoped for is that Taburetkin will be transferred somewhere to a "higher leadership position"

[domokl]

Quote: veteran.air force

So so far there is "hopelessness" in this matter! what

Russia is not a country that you can just turn back and forth ... We are big ...
And the fact that relatives everywhere and always is no secret ... By the way, I missed the main oprichnik somehow ... More scrap metal from Makarkin all the same ... this damn general did a lot to put the army on the shoulder blades ... That's who it is necessary to judge for sure .. Although, here, by a court of honor ... So that I understand what and how ... We can no longer be ordered to shut up as a soldier .. And we can express our fu, just as a military man ... even the former. ..Officers are not former ...

[VAF]

Quote: domokl

And we can express our fu, just like military personnel ... though and former ... Officers are never former ...

I agree and we will never be the former, but .... damn it, it’s boiling everything inside!
And when I read who had quit the General Staff, when Makarkin came and whom he brought with him, I generally thought that "full came" !!!

[Ascetic]

[quote = domokl] And the fact that relatives everywhere and always is no secret ... By the way, I missed the main oprichnik like that ... More scrap metal all the same from Makarkin ... this damn general did a lot to put the army on the shoulder blades ... [/ quote

If you look at the personnel policy of the Ministry of Defense and Serdyukov (if it can be called politics at all), it simply causes laughter through tears. People who do not have the proper qualifications are appointed to leading positions in the Ministry of Defense, or, more simply, in general, "not with an ear, not a snout.
In particular, a very young lady, just over 30, was appointed to the post of head of the main department of international military cooperation, (sorry not Anna Chapman but also say nothing) who not only had nothing to do with military diplomatic activity - she generally had nothing to do with military affairs had. Also, the former headmaster, who does not even approximately imagine the specifics of military education, was appointed the head of the main department of higher military educational institutions.
And finally, I want to remind you that Minister Serdyukov himself has nothing to do with military affairs. I’m not at all sure that he is able to distinguish a tank from a self-propelled gun or a cruiser from a destroyer, not to mention strategic operations, the construction of the armed forces and the like. The chief of the General Staff Makarov is not much better qualified. The level of his military-strategic qualifications is eloquently evidenced by his own statements and assessments regarding the construction of the armed forces, their use. The captain of evidence rests and nervously smokes on the sidelines. His deputy, Mr. Popovkin, who had left for independent work in Roskosmos, did not differ in the level of military-strategic thinking (what is happening there is more or less known by the results)
Thus, the existing personnel policy in the armed forces leads to their further degradation, the expulsion of the most qualified and trained personnel - since they do not allow the production of those unqualified, incompetent decisions that are inculcated by the current leadership of the Ministry of Defense and lead to further degradation of the military organization of the Russian Federation.
Moreover, the Serdyukovskoe MO has turned into a "black hole" where budget money is slipping away. in February, the chief military prosecutor said that twenty percent of the budgetary funds flowing into the defense ministry were immediately embezzled. This means that four to five trillion must be deducted from the twenty-three trillion rubles for the state armaments program until 2020. But the data of the military prosecutor's office are based only on investigated cases, on identified episodes ...

Why it happens? When the civilian Ministry of Defense was appointed, it was planned that the functions of the military-strategic management and the leadership of the Armed Forces would be transferred to the NGSH, and the Ministry of Defense would be engaged in military-economic activities and control cash flows from the sale of the property of the Defense Ministry. However, this seemed to him not enough and got into the realm of military reforms proper, replacing the NGSH with the same woodcutter Makarov. The result of these reforms on "creating a new look for the Armed Forces" is that there is a look but the Armed Forces do not.
A sad joke is popular at the General Staff: "The main problem for the Chinese in the event of a conflict with us is not to defeat our brigade, but to find it."
What needs to be done to Putin as the future of the Supreme High Command.? I will answer with a quote from an interview with L. Ivashov

[quote] The first is to replace the Minister of Defense and the Chief of General Staff. They caused great harm, but there is no benefit from their work. Next is to strengthen the personnel of the entire defense complex, both in the army and in industry. Indeed, the “managers” were launched into the defense industry, who are not concerned with the production of promising and modern technology, but only with material well-being. These people have to leave. At the same time, it is necessary to strengthen military science, link fundamental research with applied research and with the construction of technology. Only deep scientific knowledge will make it possible to move from "modernization fuss" to the creation of fundamentally new types of weapons.
[/ Quote]

[rate 60]

Ascetic, The first is to replace the Minister of Defense and the Chief of General Staff.
The first is Putin's change. Serdyukov did not take this post himself.

[leon-iv]

So so far there is "hopelessness" in this matter!
it’s hopelessness among the European armies that in England there are more generals than tanks left and the Bundeswehr is drying up year after year. They look with envy at the volume of our purchases, exercises, etc. All that remained was for them hired contingents to help the omega-Americans. Tk all the money goes to local arabs, etc.

[TRex]

leon-iv RU
it’s hopelessness among the European armies that in England there are more generals than tanks left and the Bundeswehr is drying up year after year. They look with envy at the volume of our purchases, exercises, etc.

Leon! Where does such peppy information about European armies come from? More than once on the site proud views of the West - like: they are declining - but we, well done ...
Who bombed Libya? Who is sticking out in Afghanistan? Who grinds teeth on Syria and Iran?
NATO has already self-destructed ???
How many times is the military budget of Russia less than Amerovsky?
No need to relax and wave your flags, looking at the island "England" ...

[urzul]

The only thing that can be hoped for is that Taburetkin will be transferred somewhere to a "higher leadership position" by the Prime Minister or the President !?
God forbid

[rolik]

To consider deer in the tundra is the most suitable post for him.

[military]

Quote: domokl

NATO transit through Ulyanovsk is not so much a merit of stools as a president and a newly elected president ...

very sensible remark ... +1
but... what is chosen is chosen ...

[Diman]

Drevnij: It is necessary not only to remove from office (most likely they will be transferred to another warm place), but to be shot. Collectively, so to speak ...

Unfortunately we have a maratorium on this. If only to stage the everyday life, like a drinking companion in a drunken quarrel, Serdyukov smashed his head with a Stool!

[BMW]

To do this, you need to type in the secretaries of all Miss Russia in the Moscow Region. Then just beat your head with a stool or a bottle.

[rolik]

Yes, there will be no transit, have passed. But to shoot, this is it.

[vylvyn]

That's right, comrade Stalin! Let's do it!

[ward]

I caught a curious documentary by sight ... Family ties of our so-called elite ... You’ll dismiss here, yeah, then your wife will tear out the remnants of hair for your brother-in-law ...

[VAF]

Quote: ward

You’ll fire me here, yeah, then your wife will tear out the remnants of hair for your brother-in-law ...

I did not read your post by carelessness, so do not blame me for the repetition, okay ?! You + !!!

[YARY]

.It is necessary to change the entire "vertical" without a trace and checks to cover not only state structures, but also those who are somehow connected with them! Then there will be less corruption and nepotism

[Churchill]

This is not a power vertical - it is a food pyramid!

[rolik]

Did you understand what you wrote? Logically, the vertical always changes to horizontal, And now explain what the horizontal is. I understand that for you this is architruck. I give a hint - horizontal is what happened with EBNe. I look - I wanted to go back to the 90s?
Change vertical And who will conduct the checks then, and who will change this vertical?
The same state structures, it’s necessary to carry such dullness.

[Ustas]

Mr. Serdyukov, this is a litmus test in the credit of people's trust in the new (old) president.

[Big lexey]

So I want to believe that Putin V.V. it’s smart enough to replace the Minister of Defense with a more adequate specialist and a litmus test will show that the newly elected President really wants to strengthen the country's defense.

[Artur09-75]

Stool for life labor, for the good of the country, in the timber industry.

[VAF]

Quote: Artur09-75

in the timber industry.

Nope, let him master the "related specialty in the Uranium mining industry" for his "good works"!

[Sniper 1968]

Does anyone stop this disgrace? The Minister of Defense is a saboteur ... They spread nepotism ... It's sad, comrades ...

[Uralm]

It seems nepotism. for sure. there are only two other understandable reasons

[Landwarrior]

They gave the man "soldiers" to play ... Only about the fact that the soldiers, living people, forgot to say ..
Lock it up somewhere and let the chairs repaint from "black" to "statutory black" ...

[tank64rus]

If the GDP does not deal with the elimination of the system of kinship and corruption in the power system as a priority task, and Serdyukov is one of its most prominent representatives, then we will all have one big trouble - the collapse of Russia - as a State. The system built under Yeltsin allows you to use your seat. for enrichment, to have wealth abroad, to consider Russia as THIS country, not to have any professional knowledge for your position and not to be responsible for anything under any circumstances. But this system is not capable of ensuring the viability of the State and it is doomed with it. Therefore, it needs to be broken, to clean the snickering "elite". Otherwise, the collapse of the state awaits us all.

[Ustas]

If GDP is not, as a matter of priority, eliminated by the system of family and corruption ties in the system of power, and Serdyukov is one of its most prominent representatives, then one big trouble awaits us all

I remember in the Soviet Union there was a law prohibiting two relatives from holding senior positions in one organization. It would be necessary to return this norm to state structures.

[leon-iv]

I agree with this 100%
In large organizations, there are such rules.
And also to introduce EDMS into state structures.

[Landwarrior]

Quote: Ustas

I remember in the Soviet Union there was a law prohibiting two relatives from holding senior positions in one organization. It would be necessary to return this norm to state structures.

Right now, too, there is. Once it refers to the civil service. But it only applies to it close relatives.
I experienced it myself recently.

[leon-iv]

And I personally support (not in everything) his activities at the post. Yes he is absolution. But he carried out the most important part of the reform.
And before you put cons, answer the question. How viable was SA in the realities of our time.
And everyone forgets that with it the volume of public defense contracts is becoming more and more every year. Soldiers do not starve. Exercises are held regularly. Every year pilots have more and more raids. Successful operation in Georgia.
PS Here I recommend reading a book is not quite all true but very close to reality. At least the actions of our leadership will be more understandable.
http://cast.ru/files/New_Russian_Army_sm.pdf

[Landwarrior]

Do you want to say "He who does nothing is not mistaken"?
Perhaps, but every year something less is believed in it less and less.

[leon-iv]

here, people like to notice only cons. Alas, it was and will be.
+ Hysteria in the media and people are completely off topic.

[Landwarrior]

Perhaps, but all the same, only the phrase "We wanted the best, but it turned out as always" comes to mind ...
As the saying goes ".... we will destroy to the ground ...", but for "and then", as always, there is not enough strength ...

[vovan1949]

Landwarrior: ".... let's crush it to the ground ..."

There in front were the lines "The whole world of violence ...." not the whole world, but the world of VIOLENCE
And what about "... and then ..." - they built a great superpower - the USSR
No one will say this about modern Russia. We are sitting upright in the shit, and our media inspire us that we are almost ahead of the rest.

[Alekseev]

Nobody says that our army (and the country too) was good. both of them were destroyed in "these years".
But Serdyukov (and the company) did not fix it, but finished it off!
And some people forget (or do not reach them) that the number of new models of weapons and military equipment is single, that the implementation of the state defense order every year is disrupted, that feeding a soldier is an axiom that does not require great reforms, conducting exercises (engaging in combat training) is simply just the main occupation of the army in peacetime, that the officer corps is demoralized, mercantilized, deprived of powers, and without them, any salary is "out of the ordinary." That the "permanent" readiness units are staffed with conscripts of the first year of service. That Serdyukov (and even more so Makarov, only then appointed Cavalier of St. George) has nothing to do with the collapse of the Georgian army (also with outsourcing and service). Certain decisions on the preparation of the North Caucasian Military District troops for the conflict are the merit of predecessors, and the "merit" of the Georgians is that they did not want to fight and die. What is the moral "priest" who sat down on a chair in front of the troops on a chair at the victory parade, such is the parish.
And I recommend you read less books, be closer to military people, to reality, and they will reach you.

[vovan1949]

But what about last year’s exercises in the Far East, when not a single missile was able to hit a naval target and the target was towed intact back to the port. But what if it was in wartime?

[Strategy]

And who told you about this? The ships of the Primorsky Flotilla successfully conducted missile firing, landed troops and solved all the problems.

[core]

all the hysteria about Mr. Serdyukov, only because he is civilian. the only and most important reason for officers' hatred of the Minister of Defense. all other arguments are sucked out of the finger.

[saruman]

An army cannot exist normally if its officers hate the minister of defense. Something means wrong. Our supreme commander is also a civilian, so he should be automatically hated by your logic too?

[leon-iv]

do not speak for all right. if a person is forced to perform official duties and he does not want to?

[core]

I’ll say to the officers, why not blame the mirror if the face is crooked.

[general-oberst]

That’s basically why people came to Bolotnaya and the rest of the square
ry do not want to see neither Serdyukov nor their ilk.

[BMW]

Three years ago, my former company won a tender for the dock revision of an auxiliary ship (sea tug) of the Navy. Repairs were completed, documents signed, and the ship handed over to the Navy in mid-June. Money for repairs was transferred to the account of the enterprise on December 25. The next year, the company did not participate in the competition.
If you transfer money at 9 o’clock, at 10 they will be in the account, at 9 o’clock the next day you can use this money. Question - how much money did the officials of the Moscow Region earn by scrolling 2,5 million rubles for six months ???

[general-oberst]

Suite plays the king

[BMW]

The feeling that this phrase is the most correct.

[alps]

Wow, now I’ve written such an opus according to the article and imagine you accidentally clicked the wrong way and everything went into oblivion, but here’s what was left in the buffer as the last thing I wanted to add: In November 1994, a tank column was sent to Grozny, seated by leverage yesterday's servicemen of the Kantemirov division. This adventure was undertaken two weeks before the start of a large-scale war in order to have a moral and psychological impact on the country's population, to convince the Russians of the need for military action and their justification. Pavel Grachev, as an experienced military leader, could not but know that in the center of the city without an infantry escort, a tank column would be shot. And so it happened. Tanks burned, soldiers died, some of them were captured, television footage was shown day and night.
There were professionals, and they fought in Afghanistan, and graduated from academies, and decent salaries were paid, and most importantly, on time, you remember, we always paid clearly on time, and then just do the apartments, but there were no questions, they even gave the lieutenant no problems, and that’s how much technology the army received, how good and fun it was for a military man to live, but now, of course, everything is so bad that gentlemen officers don’t know how to look into their wives when they bring their salaries home, and their salaries, everything enough, you imagine what a horror, they (wives) are not used to it, they need to sit all evening and distribute what can be bought and what is not, and that would be enough for at least a couple of pantyhose, not with themselves, but with their daughter ...
The article sucks, and the author has a very short memory

[leon-iv]

alps
You saw the new RFP in the military. Yes.

[alps]

I have an older brother military

[leon-iv]

and that he gets little with NG.
If so, then he did not pass the standards for professional suitability.

[alps]

You did not understand me correctly, I was just talking about how it was and what is now better than it was, and I see no reason to remove Serdyukov from his post, believing that he did not a little good for the armed forces.

[TRex]

and what has he not "done" for the armed forces ... the question is: for whose armed forces?
Of the clerks! Is it not you, by chance?

[Magadan]

Quote: esaul

This is my answer to the fact that with the advent of Putin, this question, for sure, will not go unnoticed and will be resolved - optimally. Now I clearly expressed my attitude to the topic?

Yesaul, welcome! I really like your positive, but I do not believe in Putin’s struggle against his own bureaucrats. I have no answer why, but all these Serdyukov-Churov-Fursenko-different governors-guardianship-judges, etc. and all-all-all the leaders of the highest, that of middle management, completely with impunity and in the eyes of the whole country are quietly wiping their feet on Putin. Or Putin himself ordered them so? Those. after all, they wipe their feet in the end, just do not care about the President?
A bright example is Postnikov. The head of ALL RUSSIAN LAND FORCES calmly declares that it is possible to buy 1 German Leopards for 90 T-3 and at the same time remain at his post! I understand. it may not be a crime to say so, but it is complete incompetence or deliberate deception. Which is in no way compatible with such a high position and directly shows the whole mess happening there, in the Ministry of Defense! Moreover, it is unacceptable for a Military Man, an example of discipline and responsibility. Forgive me, but I, a small person, have gotten used to "answering for my own market."

[saruman]

Now the topic of resignation of odious ministers in the new government of Putin is much discussed.
Serdyukov - failure of army reform
Nurgaliev - the failure of police reform.
Levitin is a series of accidents in transport, after which it is better for the minister to shoot himself.
Golikova - medicine - tryndets
Fursenko - education - tryndets
Skrynnik - agricultural almost tryndets
well, etc.

So here. These are key ministers of the Putin team that Putin did not even get from Yeltsin. Most people are naive and think that Putin has changed. I doubt it. In the best case, Putin, out of a sense of self-preservation, will take in the government some popular people, such as Rogozin. But! Do not expect from Putin the development and new industrialization of the country.
Most voted for stability, so why demand some resignation? Still, it should be stable until a full stabilizer comes. For Putin, the entire economic program was written by market fundamentalists. The state will completely abandon industrial and economic policies. A new wave of large-scale privatization is coming. Gazprom for industry and thermal power plants plans this year to increase the price by 15% in July, in November another 26% (due to an increase in the mineral extraction tax). That is, the gas price will be higher than the spot price in the USA!

Wait for more good news from Putin and Co.!

[leon-iv]

I will say again that we need absolution for carrying out unpopular reforms.
By the way, and what failed the reform of Serdyukov.

[saruman]

"By the way, how did Serdyukov fail the reform?"

After the reforms, our army lost the ability to repel widespread aggression in the usual ways. And in order to defeat Russia, there can be no other form of aggression a priori. One does not need to be a military analyst to see a very small number of aircraft in the Air Force, air defense systems, formed brigades (with complete absence of a reserve) to such a huge territory of Russia, even if the qualitative characteristics are improved. In any strategic direction, our potential opponents surpass us both qualitatively and quantitatively. I mean serious opponents - Japan, China, Turkey, the NATO bloc in the European direction, the United States in all directions.
Most importantly, after the likely significant losses (or even defeats) in this kind of conflict, we will have to use nuclear weapons. And this is essentially self-destruction!

[leon-iv]

let's in PM I will answer you with pleasure
TC for any of these items can be debated.

[saruman]

Quote: leon-iv

let's in PM, I’ll be happy to answer you. You can discuss any of these points.

But is this a military secret? Our forum is just for discussion. I will be glad if you can competently dispel my fears. And then the Minister of Defense, unfortunately can not. I do not like Wed-cha, with a sane person it is always nice to discuss, even if we have different beliefs.

[leon-iv]

Ok
By the number of troops. They are sufficient for the country's defense. To a war of medium intensity.
Each war is accompanied by a threatened period. On average, from six months to 5 years. During this time, the population of the aggressor is prepared and so on. Military equipment is bought ammunition bandages and so on. That is, the country is preparing for war. This is very quickly noticed by intelligence even before the advance of troops to the borders.
Accordingly, countermeasures are being taken (I don’t take nuclear weapons, there are other realities there, but I am considering a conflict of medium intensity) that is, troop groups in three echelons are building up. Air Force artillery and so on are being transferred. Silent people from 12 GUMO bring products and prepare them, etc., etc.
What I want to say It is impossible to immediately attack the army of peacetime. What usually everyone forgets directly comparing armies.
Now for the threats.
Europe- There is definitely no army being cut off year after year, paramilitary semi-police units will soon remain.
Turkey to fight in the Caucasus is difficult it is a very difficult theater of operations. And as a result, they won’t get ANYTHING. even if we hypothetically estimate they will be able to squeeze our army for the Caucasus. To provide a group of 300 thousand (minimum necessary) people under mountain conditions is expensive VERY expensive. And the infrastructure will be under the permanent RBU of the Russian Air Force. A signal to the theoretical initial stage will be the formation of at least 10 mountain brigades. And they are not the army from year to year, 20-30 thousand people are slaughtered. At the same time, support for troops by aviation from the Turks will be minimal. And the Russian Air Force will dominate the sky. This is the structure of the Caucasian
Japan what their armed forces showed Fukushima. For sim about samurai there is no desire to, because the samurai ended in the 45th year on the litter of the USA. And the fact of the maximum number of suicides per 1000 people in the Armed Forces of Japan is also noteworthy.
China no maybe it's a nuclear war. And provided that they put the YaU first. And China is militarily very vulnerable. But he is busy with the Taiwan problem. And for example, with India, his relations are much higher than with Russia. On medium-intensity wars, my opinion is until 2020
But the threats of all sorts of minor conflicts ala georgia they are more likely in Central Asia. for such cases, light teams are formed.
At the moment, subject to the state defense order, the army corresponds to the economic situation and threats.

[saruman]

I know these geopolitical and military-political arguments, and I can even expand your argument. But! My first education is historical. All geopolitical structures fly to tartarrara at the outbreak of hostilities. History teaches - that does not teach anything!
The USSR was preparing for war purposefully, but in the initial period it got a disaster. At the same time, the USSR was ready to wage war of attrition, however, like the United States. Germany and Japan could not. Russia cannot either now.

Modern warfare can be unleashed with preparation, in a shorter period. And initially it will be an air attack. Russia will not be able to repel a massive attack by cruise missiles of all types of basing, enemy aircraft, due to the small number of aircraft and air defense systems we have. D, and we will inflict significant damage, but can we win? Even if only one-fifth of the missiles and bombs reach their targets, it will drive Russia into the Stone Age. Further, pretty battered brigades of a "new look" will confront the "rebels" in the Caucasus, possibly in Tuva, Bashkiria, fresh enemy troops who attacked from all sides under the guise of "peacekeepers" (remember the intervention of the Entente, USA, Japan in 1919-21). Will Russia at this moment rely on the people and call them into the ranks of the armed forces? Can not! The entire summoning system is ruined. And where to call - then? What, will it be necessary to re-create the "legendary and invincible" in blood again?

[Varnaga]

due to the small number of airplanes and air defense systems we have

Come on, isn't it?) From the same bad wiki:

1900 PU S-300PMU, 200PU S-300V for 2010.

Do not tell me which country is most saturated with air defense systems?)
Well, about the Stone Age, a small analysis of the use of the WTO in Yugoslavia:

The operation began on the night of March 24-25, 1999. The duration of the strikes on the first day of Operation Decisive Force was 2 hours 45 minutes.
They involved:
6 sea (2 PLA and 3 NK U.S. Navy, 1 submarine of the British Navy) and 5 air carriers of the Kyrgyz Republic (3 V-52N, 2 V-2A), which released 66 KR V and MB; 181 TA aircraft (F-117, F- 15, F-16, A-10A of the US Air Force; “Mirage” of the French Air Force; “Tornado” of the German Air Force; “Harrier” of the British Air Force with Avb Aviano, Istran, Pianchenets, Goya del Colle, Amindola);
The construction of the first strike and the timing for its delivery, mainly, in addition to some of the differences that we will focus on, are typical for the experience of using IOS in recent military conflicts: early departure in a few hours to the duty zone of the British Air Force DRLOU E-3D to the duty zone (covering areas
controlled airspace); 15 minutes before the strike, active jamming from the barrage zones of the US Navy E-6B EW aircraft was blocked (this interval was actually minimized compared to Operation Desert Storm, where it was 4-6 hours; launch 60 SLCM “Tomahok” from the Adriatic Sea (from 4 surface ships and
The 1st submarine of the US Navy, the submarine "Splendid" of the British Navy) striking with 40 TA aircraft, simultaneously under their cover, the bombing of two SB-2A (which was also new in the operations of the IOS); access to the water of the Ionian Sea 8 SB V-52N and launch 40 ALCM-C ALCM-C from the line at a distance of about 200 km from the
Yugoslavia. The second series of attacks was carried out from 22.25 25.3 to 01.35 26.3 (a total of 3 hours 10 minutes). Ships from the composition of the US Navy in the Adriatic Sea (NK-4, PLA-1) took part in it on March 25 at 22.25, 22.50 and 23.05 launched 117 Tomahok SLCMs on the territory of Yugoslavia. The attacks involved 94 TA combat aircraft from air bases. In addition, 4 strategic bombers took part in the raid (2 V-52N and 2 V-2A Avb Fairford (Great Britain), who used 16 AGM-86 C air defense systems. Aircraft carried out air defense operations from 9000 m altitude from a line distant from the coastline more than more than 200 km. TA aircraft operated in groups of 10-12 aircraft, having in their system fighter cover, electronic warfare aircraft and directly attack (5-6 units) of the same nationality.
in the early days of the operation, they operated mainly from heights of 5000-15000 m, in some cases up to 2000 m. Cruise missiles operated at altitudes starting from 5000 m in the area of ​​the first correction near the coastline, and then, up to 850 meters on the main part of the route . Coordination of the actions of TA and SA aircraft with SLCM strikes was carried out by the CPSU on the EU-130E theater of operations, control of the air situation, the formation of TA attack groups and coordination of their actions, as well as fighter guidance on targets - the E-3D Air Force of the United Kingdom Air Force and E-3A " AWACS - NATO ”, which is a very effective means of intelligence and control. It should be noted that the AWACS aircraft are not inferior to the VKP (EU-130E) in their control capabilities, and the formation of its own reconnaissance base on board gives it undeniable advantages over traditional VKPs. An analysis of even open materials studied at the SIC - video recordings of real air battles in Iraq (1991) showed that in the absence of an AWACS aircraft, the outcome of many air battles could be different. The same can be said of the confrontation between NATO aviation and the SFRY IA.An analysis of the results of the first strikes within 2-3 days showed that the damage caused to the objects was insignificant. That is, the first strikes aimed at suppressing the forces and means of air defense did not bring significant results. The NATO leadership’s hopes for achieving its goals as quickly as in operations against Iraq did not materialize. This is due, on the one hand, to physico-geographical and climatic conditions that sharply differed in comparison with the Persian Gulf region, and, on the other hand, to the more skillful organization and conduct of air defense by the Yugoslav side, which includes effective anti-missile defense measures and ensuring the survivability of military units

And yes, tell us, my friend, has NATO encountered at least such air defense as in Georgia?)

[leon-iv]

yes let's talk about air defense
Who in the world has an integrated air defense system. I brought an option for an export system that is worse than the one that works for us.
Now about 100500 cruise missiles and aircraft.
If we don’t take China and the USA, we understand that they are not suicides who will be able to saturate our antiaircraft defense and air defense systems so far so that we can cause irreparable damage and even minimal damage. And in order not to rant on the example of Turkey. With an outfit of forces in the first echelon by type of aircraft and means of support for AWACS (which they do not have) electronic warfare tankers. Do you want to go to Japan.
BUT everyone cross-understands that the losses will be huge, and the result is near-zero. And they just as well know that for example there will be a raid on Turkey by our strategists and DB with X-555 (let's not torment their nuclear weapons) what will become of them and their life.
and if you want to talk about 100500 KR with the destroyer URO, then count how many axes each ship can launch in the order per minute, and some of them will be occupied by air defense orders.
Only if it is normal to discuss. With examples and diagrams.

[Strategy]

Why do you always consider Turkey in isolation? After all, this is a member of NATO. Yes, and if possible, give calculations of SLCM warrants taking into account the fulfillment of air defense missile systems by URO ships, without forgetting about fighter aircraft carriers. It is very interesting to see your calculation methodology.

[leon-iv]

because it is spheroconin and in Africa spheroconin.
Turkey itself will not attack and NATO is engaged in robbery

[Strategy]

Well, okay, this is your personal opinion. And what about the calculations?

[leon-iv]

what exactly. Firing rate pu in destroyers URO?

[Strategy]

Calculation of SLCM orders: how many in one hit at the same time, including in various air (aerospace) directions, the probability of overcoming air defense, the depth of reach, the effectiveness of strikes, etc. Do you know what calculations are?

[leon-iv]

ok right now I'll give just let's clarify
We take the US Navy all the same or another country.
Tk with the United States will be pulled by nuclear weapons

[Strategy]

The grouping of the naval and naval forces of NATO + Japan with all the ensuing ...

[leon-iv]

what's all at once?
Where are you 100% alert, I have not. Of the 15 carrier groups, in fact, no more than 7-8 will be able to single out this limit.
oh yes forgot to ask where will they be pulled by axes?

[Strategy]

The combat readiness coefficient used for calculations is always at least 0,7. You know what carrier groups are and why you take their number 15. Where will they be firing from? Well, make up the script yourself and consider one of the options of your choice. What is your military education?

[Strategy]

A number of questions:
1. What, in your opinion, is a war of "medium intensity" (some NATO term): its scale (number of participants), scope (spatial), duration, types of weapons used?
2. Why do you argue that the outbreak of war is possible only after a full-scale deployment of troops (forces)? Why do you exclude the outbreak of aggression against Russia by combat-ready forces and means (especially given the existing superiority in this matter, for example, of NATO troops, especially the Air Force and Navy, as well as all kinds of rapid deployment forces and an advantage in transport communications)?
3. What is the "threatened period" in your opinion? In fact, this is the period of time from the moment the threat of aggression is revealed (that is, the aggressor itself and his reliable intentions to attack precisely Russia) to the start of hostilities and / or the declaration of war. ALL intelligence forces and assets (SVR, GRU, Foreign Ministry) cannot determine this more than six months before the start of a possible aggression. And if, on the basis of indirect (not reliable) signs, we start preparing for war earlier, then we can make it easier for the enemy to form world public opinion about our aggressive intentions. So there will be no five years invented by you.
4. Why do you exclude the escalation of "all sorts of small conflicts a la georgia" into a regional or even large-scale war?
5. Turkey is a member of NATO. What is your statement based on that the air support of its ground forces will be minimal?
6. What three echelons are you talking about - tactical, operational, strategic?
7. Why did you decide that enemy ground groups would begin to advance and deploy at our borders before the outbreak of hostilities, and not do it under the guise of an air operation or campaign?
Well, and in general, according to your resume: the conclusion is NOT justified by anything.

[leon-iv]

1. What, in your opinion, is a war of "medium intensity" (some NATO term): its scale (number of participants), scope (spatial), duration, types of weapons used?
See the military doctrine.
2. Why do you argue that the outbreak of war is possible only after a full-scale deployment of troops (forces)? Why do you exclude the outbreak of aggression against Russia by combat-ready forces and means (especially given the existing superiority in this matter, for example, of NATO troops, especially the Air Force and Navy, as well as all kinds of rapid deployment forces and an advantage in transport communications)?
It's like giving a slap in the face and getting a jaw in response.
If there is interest, let's play KShU in peacetime and in war.
A number of questions:
1. What, in your opinion, is a war of "medium intensity" (some NATO term): its scale (number of participants), scope (spatial), duration, types of weapons used?
2. Why do you argue that the outbreak of war is possible only after a full-scale deployment of troops (forces)? Why do you exclude the outbreak of aggression against Russia by combat-ready forces and means (especially given the existing superiority in this matter, for example, of NATO troops, especially the Air Force and Navy, as well as all kinds of rapid deployment forces and an advantage in transport communications)?
3. What is the "threatened period" in your opinion? In fact, this is the period of time from the moment the threat of aggression is revealed (that is, the aggressor itself and his reliable intentions to attack precisely Russia) to the start of hostilities and / or the declaration of war. ALL intelligence forces and assets (SVR, GRU, Foreign Ministry) cannot determine this more than six months before the start of a possible aggression. And if, on the basis of indirect (not reliable) signs, we start preparing for war earlier, then we can make it easier for the enemy to form world public opinion about our aggressive intentions. So there will be no five years invented by you.
4. Why do you exclude the escalation of "all sorts of small conflicts a la georgia" into a regional or even large-scale war?
5. Turkey is a member of NATO. What is your statement based on that the air support of its ground forces will be minimal?
6. What three echelons are you talking about - tactical, operational, strategic?
7. Why did you decide that enemy ground groups would begin to advance and deploy at our borders before the outbreak of hostilities, and not do it under the guise of an air operation or campaign?
Well, and in general, according to your resume: the conclusion is NOT justified by anything.

In my opinion I wrote from and to
4. Why do you exclude the escalation of "all sorts of small conflicts a la georgia" into a regional or even large-scale war?
Does anyone really want to live in the OZK?
Turkey is a member of NATO. What is your statement based on that the air support of its ground forces will be minimal?
Aircraft carrier in the Black Sea is the dream of the Air Force and Navy. And the number of Turkish airfields is limited. And for example, ala iskander complexes can easily be moved beyond 500km
What three echelons are you talking about - tactical, operational, strategic?
If we take the conflict with Turkey, then the operational level of the brigades.
Why did you decide that enemy ground groups would begin to advance and deploy at our borders before the outbreak of hostilities, and not do it under the guise of an air operation or campaign?
Well, and in general, according to your resume: the conclusion is NOT justified by anything.
how they will provide an advantage outfit of forces and means. In the context of Turkey’s operations against Russia.
PS if there are other options offer

[Strategy]

First of all, we didn’t drink at the Brudershaft.
Secondly, see for yourself the Military Doctrine of the Russian Federation and, in particular, the classification of wars.
Thirdly, what to give to the jaw, if the troops are not deployed, and the quantitative and qualitative level of combat readiness is lower. You can play in KShU, you are on what model are you going to calculate options?
Fourth, the threatened period, as it seems, can be BEFORE HALF YEAR, before we will not reliably reveal the threat of aggression.
Fifthly, the NATO member states have nuclear weapons, and we, too, will not want to live in the UPC. By the way, what territorial claims does Turkey have for us?
Sixth, in your opinion, how many airfields and airplanes (including combat) do Turkey have? By the way, in Turkey there are storage facilities equipped for the storage of nuclear weapons (NATO).
Sixthly, once again - Turkey is a member of NATO and it alone will not fight against Russia, and indeed they have no direct reasons and reasons.

[leon-iv]

First of all, we didn’t drink at the Brudershaft.
not critical. Or do you have a popol
Secondly, see for yourself the Military Doctrine of the Russian Federation and, in particular, the classification of wars.
How is a medium-intensity war different from a local war. Synonyms
What model are you going to calculate options on?I spoke about spherokonin Turkey against the Russian Federation, or I wrote with no reason. Bida Bida.
Fourth, the threatened period, as it seems, can be BEFORE HALF YEAR, before we will not reliably reveal the threat of aggression.
Oh yes not really but for example the purchase of device X at factory Y in the amount of Q at a consumption rate of Z. yes yes no one will notice
how many airdromes and airplanes (including military) do you have in Turkey? By the way, in Turkey there are storage facilities equipped for the storage of nuclear weapons (NATO).
let's take a look at the main airbases
8 AvBDiyarbakir + command.
in submission
5th AvB (Merziphon)
7th AvB (Erhach)
Kayseri
About 50-60 F-16 and 20 F-4 planes are based there if you score to the limit.
But this is in accordance with the norms of peacetime.
Sixthly, once again - Turkey is a member of NATO and it alone will not fight against Russia, and indeed they have no direct reasons and reasons.
I don’t see either, but spheroconin is such a spheroconin. Moreover, Azerbaijan has claims to Armenia.

[Strategy]

I was not interested. You picked up some tops somewhere, but you don’t understand the essence: a local war is not a medium-intensity war, you don’t seem to have heard about the models of military operations, you don’t have a clue about the reliability of the information, the more so allowing to establish the fact of a growing threat of aggression , you don’t know the Turkish Air Force’s combat personnel, well, etc.

[welder]

leon-iv-you are the enemy of the people, don’t mess up our brains !!! how much is apostasy from the homeland now? answer s.k.a.t.i.a.

[welder]

leon-iv ..... why are you silent student, where are you studying?

[core]

I mean, before Serdyukov there were armades of tank divisions ready for battle, hundreds of Tu-160s, several fleet carriers in each fleet. and he came and poheril everything?
only with it does the construction of the aircraft begin. and do not forget, with him, our army did not scare and pick the Georgians. give an order to cross the border is worth a lot, obviously not a coward. it’s just nada to remove the blinkers from the eyes, and objectively look at the situation in the army, how it was and how it got up. such a relationship of the state to the army as it has not been since the beginning of the 80s.

[Strategy]

And when did our army coward?

[core]

ANSWER, soldiers are not when. their fate and profession is such to die for their homeland. but the top link is often tail in front of the enemy or threat.

[Strategy]

Once again - when did our army coward specifically (including the top link) ?!

[core]

Russo-Japanese war, refused to continue the war. The Russian-Turkish war of 1877-1878 stopped at the straits, Constantinople was not taken (Istanbul)

[Strategy]

The army refused, did the generals scare or, after all, politicians? You must answer for your words and think what you write?

[Landwarrior]

Quote: core

their fate and profession is such to die for their homeland.

Wrong
The fate of a soldier is not to die for his homeland, but to make the enemy die for his own.
War is not a gentleman's sport, where "the main thing is participation. Here the main thing is victory. And what a victory, if the soldiers can only die and can?"
In this situation, it’s easier to build a machine gun.

[saruman]

Quote: core

I mean, before Serdyukov there were armades of tank divisions ready for battle, hundreds of Tu-160s, several fleet carriers in each fleet. and he came and poheril everything? only with him the construction of the aircraft begins. and do not forget, with him, our army did not scare and pick the Georgians. give an order to cross the border is worth a lot, obviously not a coward. it’s just nada to remove the blinkers from the eyes, and objectively look at the situation in the army, how it was and how it got up. such a relationship of the state to the army as it has not been since the beginning of the 80s.

I don’t argue that our Armed Forces need units of constant combat readiness, like the U.S. ILC, we need parts of special operations. It’s good that they kept the reinforced airborne. But it’s not clear why the completely combat-ready GRU brigades were reduced? In my opinion, the reform was initiated by Putin from the experience of the Chechen wars and the Georgian conflict. All activities in the army fit into this concept. It is planned to deal with more serious opponents with the help of nuclear weapons. This is mistake. Strategic mistake!

[leon-iv]

05 about the GRU.
Sense from the brigade was without helicopter support.
But now these YaRS guys are guarded in Teykovo and are quite happy with themselves.
Read the military doctrine http: //president.rf/ref_notes/461

[BMW]

About the threatened period - why our peacekeepers were put in Ossetia (it turns out that the Headquarters miscalculated again).

[Strategy]

Firstly, South Ossetia is not the Russian Federation.
Secondly, it turns out, miscalculated, because either they were afraid to face the truth, or they considered the loot from the sale of property of the Moscow Region ... Well, somehow)))
This, incidentally, confirms the assumption that there may not be a threatened period.

[leon-iv]

Yes, yes, of course, and the 58th Army did not accidentally leave the fields in the RPD.
Yes, of course, by chance, my acquaintances from 215 reconnaissance companies were sent to CO in mid-June, and they returned only in September. All by chance and coincidence

[leon-iv]

no, they were merged; they were pawns (to be honest, it is very unpleasant for me to write). Otherwise, Russia would have been even longer lazy. And it all turned out pretty well. The main thing stopped on time. And then feed another hungry republic.

[sevas]

now zombie tandem zholizy begin to shut !!!
all ..... of the race, and Putin has nothing to do with !!!!

[BMW]

Magadan

saruman

Correctly said - I support. I do not believe in Putin.

[Colonel]

leon-iv, thanks. Have fun from the heart!

But now these YaRS guys are guarded in Teykovo and are quite happy with themselves.

[4DS]

I draw the attention of the editors to contextual advertising:

According to sabzh: at least the fact of acceptance by this body of a parade of troops in the SID position is causing indignation. At the maximum - to lay part of the blame for the wrecking, the collapse of the Army and Navy, to condemn and exponentially execute.
I am sad to watch the seizures of BG in a single Navy, not to mention the whole country. This, dear comrades, is just 3,14dets!

[Strategy]

So after all, not only sitting Serdyukov, but also SUPREME. We can say this: the troops at the parade saluted the leadership, but the leadership could not do this because of the lack of this ...

[snek]

Yes, no one will clean Serdyukov. The only opportunity was - before the elections, to collect extra votes. But Shamanov, as I read, can be removed from the paratroopers - he says "inconvenient" things.

[lepold]

Again, the king is good, and the villain boyars are deceiving him?
I doubt it is not an accident - the action!

[Strategy]

I read the comments on various articles and I am surprised: everything is bad here, the stool is bored, the army and navy are in collapse, the economy is destroyed, Uncle Sam and NATO are in charge of our country. But in the article about the opposition, everything is exactly the opposite: the opposition is, swampy orange, "don't hush our Putin!" and so on. And the authors of the comments are the same ... Explain, if anyone can ...

[military]

But what is there to explain ...?
it is just that the supporters of the Great do not agree to equate him with Russian lawlessness ... this is a kind of "taboo" ... anyone is guilty, but not Solntseliy ...
any positive is habitually associated with Him, negative - with His environment ...

[doctor3006]

This is the main mystery of this site, Strategia.

[aleksej]

damn yes it is necessary to remove Serdyukov and put in his place a really military man who knows well what is happening in the army right now

[Strategy]

It is not a matter of knowledge, it is a matter of the moral side of the matter - love of the motherland.

[Leisure]

Serdyukov is in place, because he is in proportion. And who is the bigger question?

[zombies]

But Serdyukov has not yet completed all the tasks, now he will destroy the remaining stockpiles of weapons and ammunition under the guise of disposal and that’s all, you can have a rest !!! In general, he is not the Minister of Defense - he is the Minister of Disarmament, looking at the excitement with which the fighters engage in the destruction of their own means of destruction, and with the complete absence of control over what the Russian Defense Ministry does, it just becomes disgusting ...

[leon-iv]

Let me give you a shot with a projectile from the 60-70s.
Have a desire to gut collect?

[Strategy]

Not all ammunition destroyed is classified as unusable. Destroyed and usable, "to the heap", so to speak, just in case ...

[leon-iv]

Go to the RAVists, serve.

[recruit]

It seems that no one knows why Serdyukov is still in the saddle. Look who his relatives are and it will become clear.

[Dmitry.V]

I understand, of course, that, based on the name of the site, it is clear why articles about ministers are focused on Serdyukov, but do not forget about other "ministers", they destroy those who will only be part of this teenage army, education is brought to naught, medicine is also not in the best condition, so I think the lion's share of "ministers" is on the block.

[leon-iv]

http://www.defencemanagement.com/news_story.asp?id=19203
and here's what furniture makers in England do

[nycsson]

Until we eradicate the admission to the civil service according to the principle: godfather-brother-in-law, we’ll stagnate! look how in the same China they accept civil service, several hundred applicants take one place, they pass exams and tests .......

[PatriotizTAT]

Maybe one of you does not know what he is now marking in the chair of the Minister of Finance ?????????????!

[Alekseev]

There is no personal merit of Serdyukov for the defense, for monetary allowance, for the apartments.
He didn’t command the same in Georgia, and the war ended quickly, mainly because (let’s honestly face the truth) because the Georgians did not want to die in vain, and not from his intellectualization.
But the fault is in stupidity, idiotic orders, corrupting military groups, nourishing corruption. Guilt in dispersal, along with fools and ballast, of valuable military personnel.
The fact that he assembled a team of compromisers who reformed the army so that the Chinese could not find our military units, and if they did, then yesterday’s schoolchildren there, of the first year of service (not so long ago, everyone, and Serdyukov, too, believed that the first year of service was You can’t send a war, but now whom to send?), and with them outsourcing and defense services (how much is the normal hour?) ... and women are the representatives of the Moscow Region.
And not correctable optimists, far from the Armed Forces as "Decembrists from the people", should watch less bravura news.

[Region71]

Guys, it was even funny to me when many here praised Putin and scolded Serdyukov. You can blame me, I don’t feel cold and hot, but these are 2 steam boots. If Putin wished, Serdyukov would leave another three years ago, and so the politician Serdyukovschiny in the army will only continue.

[Love77]

Unfortunately, not everyone understands this. It's funny for you, but I wanted to cry when, before the elections, on many websites one could read that Putin would become President and everything would be hurt (“if the master comes, the master will judge us”). And our monetary allowance was increased 3 times (by the way, this year I haven’t received a penny yet).

[tank64rus]

Comrade officers, tell me which one of you will get up without being a physician at the surgical table to operate on the patient. Yes, probably no one. And you can manage the military department without going through all the steps of the military ladder. In any case, the result is one. After the so-called reform, more than one a serious analysis of what happened. The teachings of several battalions didn’t count. Before the war, Stalin held a command and staff game and got results similar to the beginning of the war. Then there were also optimists who claimed that the Reds could not be defeated. The result is known. .If now to conduct such a large-scale exercise with the transfer of troops, with independent experts and in full, then immediately everything would fall into place.

[rolik]

Now let me show you the "good deeds" of Perdukov.

“In shit you live here, in shit you will die!” Do not give money to this center of the Airborne Forces! This school generally needs to be reduced. To remove this arrogant colonel - and to the troops! ” - shouted the Minister of Defense Anatoly Serdyukov. The head of the Ryazan Higher Command School of the Airborne Forces Hero of Russia, Guard Colonel Andrei Krasov tried to make excuses: the temple was built exclusively with funds from the Ryazan Diocese, sponsors and veterans of the Airborne Forces. The colonel said that in the center, starting in 2011, they will prepare army chaplains, "90% of which will be Orthodox priests." In addition, the temple is needed by family members of officers, cadets and soldiers, since the nearest one is 15 kilometers from the Seltsi training center, on the other bank of the Oka River, through which a bridge has not even been laid in these places. He said that the temple is necessary for the education of patriotic feelings among future professional sergeants. The Minister, listening to the Colonel’s awkward excuses, became more and more angry ...
... The boss procession arrived on September 30, 2010 by helicopter with a three-hour delay - at 16.10 pm. Before landing Serdyukov from the air examined the territory of the center. Seltsi training was built in the forest, on the northern bank of the Oka. Barracks, administrative buildings, training buildings for cadets, a training ground, infirmary, a shooting range at several airfields, a tank race ground, a training ground for armored personnel carriers. The Minister of Defense noticed the unfinished dining room and the barracks from the air, retired Colonel GRU Vitaly Shlykov, who knows the details of the scandal, told The New Times. I saw the temple of Elijah the Prophet, erected near the landfill. This is what made the minister furious. Coming out of the helicopter, Serdyukov immediately started screaming, they say in the Russian Paratroopers Union.
"The minister flew in by helicopter, while he was without the commander of the Airborne Forces," the vice-president of the Association of Heroes of Russia, the Soviet Union and full holders of the Order of Glory, Hero of the Soviet Union, Major General of the Airborne Forces Alexander Soluyanov told Kommersant. began to obscenely insult the head of the center of the Hero of Russia, Colonel Andrei Krasov. The minister was displeased with the wooden temple of Elijah the Prophet, located on the territory of the training center, Mr. Serdyukov demanded to demolish it. "
In the presence of his subordinates, he obmateril, even called the "colonist" the colonel who met him. Nearby stood Colonel Igor Volkov, deputy head of the Airborne Forces rear guard school, and an FSB military counterintelligence officer. In very harsh terms, the Minister of Defense demanded to demolish the temple: “The barracks are unfinished, the dining room is unfinished, and they have cut off the church for 180 million!”
“I serve in this temple every Sunday,” said priest John, rector of the temple. “About 10 soldiers come to the Sunday service, who confesses, who partakes of the communion ... The soldiers told me that they won’t give the temple an insult.” According to Father John, about 300-350 conscripts, plus about 150 other officers and sergeants and staff, are being trained at the center.
The Union of Russian Paratroopers prepared an appeal to President Dmitry Medvedev and Patriarch Kirill with a request to stand up for the commander of the Ryazan Higher Command School of the Airborne Forces, Colonel Andrei Krasov. A video message from General Achalov with a detailed account of the Seltsy scandal appeared on the Internet.
An employee of the Synodal Department for Cooperation with the Armed Forces, Archpriest of the Russian Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate, Alexander Ilyashenko, is convinced that the paratroopers have the right to demand the resignation of Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov after he obscenely insulted the Hero of Russia, Guards Colonel Andrei Krasov. "The issue must be resolved firmly, quickly and militarily. He must ask for forgiveness, but regardless of whether he is asking for forgiveness or not, he must resign," Archpriest Alexander told Interfax-Religion on October 18. The representative of the ROC MP pointed out that such a case "from the worst side" characterizes Serdyukov himself as "a person who has nothing to do with the army" and "does not have any credit of trust not only among the Armed Forces, but also among civilians."
"How dare he insult an old soldier with impunity! Laws must be changed so that they do not allow such a possibility. In case of insult, a person should have the right to respond, and even action. Even if there were a minister in front of him, it would be very good to slap him on the cheeks," - the priest was indignant.
The conflict between the Minister of Defense and the army, which erupted for three years - from the moment Anatoly Serdyukov was appointed to the post and began to carry out military reform - splashed to the public. There were even rumors that the minister might part with his chair. For the first time, discontent was expressed by current officers, moreover from elite units that, through the General Staff, are directly subordinate to the Supreme Commander-in-Chief, that is, the President.
It must also be said that Serdyukov’s relations with the paratroopers are special, we can say on the verge of a foul. For example, in the summer of 2009 it became known that the Ministry of Defense purchased thousands of ... defective parachutes for 280 million rubles for the Airborne Forces. Investigators from the Chief Military Prosecutor’s Office managed to disrupt the delivery of a large batch of unsuitable parachute systems to the airborne forces. “Cunning entrepreneurs made these parachutes not from new raw materials, but from old parts. Representatives of the army customer and military representatives, I believe, disinterestedly, turned a blind eye to this. Studies by experts have shown that these parachutes cannot be used, ”said Chief Military Prosecutor Sergei Fridinsky. The supply of old, decommissioned products under the guise of new ones is the most common practice of embezzlement of budget money in law enforcement agencies. The profit is divided among the participants by agreement, and not only direct executors receive it, but also senior officers who put their signature on some acts.
Fraud officers calmly buy for the troops both decommissioned ammunition and old parts for planes and helicopters, cracked helmets, body armor, which only have new material, and no plates at all. The plates are inserted by the fighters themselves, taking them out of the old “broniks”. And well, if it were high-quality plates - but the machine gun burst pierces them through from fifty steps, because they were no good from the very beginning ... It was just as easy to buy old parachutes.
... Fifty-eight State Duma deputies sent an open letter to President Dmitry Medvedev demanding "the resignation of Defense Minister Mr. Serdyukov, who, through his ill-considered actions and irresponsible decisions, destroys Russia's defense potential." According to the plan of the Minister of Defense, the letter says that in the next three years the number of units and formations in the Ground Forces will be reduced by 12 times, in the Air Force-Air Defense and in the Navy - almost twice. Strategic missile forces are expected to be cut by a third, and the Airborne Forces - by 20%. “The actual rout of the General Staff continues, which will also be reduced by more than two times. Experts are indignant at this rush. In three years, it is planned to reduce more than 2 units and formations of our Armed Forces. No other country in the world has ever known such rates of “circumcision.”

Another example of the generosity of the military leadership, when it comes to misappropriation, is completely discouraging. In June 2010, on a government procurement website, journalists found a joint order from the Ministry of Defense and Rosoboronpostavka, as well as a separate tender for the supply of furniture for the needs of the Ministry of Defense. Rosoboronpostavka for the office of the head and his rest room required a set of furniture from 29 objects. In particular, they talked about a table made of olive wood veneer and beech veneer with a mahogany veneer finish “with marketing in the shape of a meander”.
The office of the head of the agency could not do without traditional gilding. The side table should be finished with olive wood veneer. Its texture “repeats and emphasizes the natural pattern of wood, an insert with gold stamping,” the tender documentation says. A similar embossed finish is also found in a number of other pieces of furniture - for example, a computer desk and a meeting table. In total, Rosoboronpostavka was ready to spend 20,3 million rubles on the supply of furniture for the head, his deputies, reception rooms, heads of departments and departments.
The Ministry of Defense for furniture for senior management offered 22 million rubles. Serdyukov’s table should be made of “solid wood” with handmade antique finish. Pens - gold, color - dark cherry, specified in the documentation. In some cases, buffalo leather inserts of dark green color are required. It is ready to spend 5,7 million rubles on furniture for employees of the Ministry of Defense.
Earlier that year, the Ministry of Defense had already placed an order for the supply of furniture “for executive offices” in the amount of 18,3 million rubles. Similar orders from current orders appear in that order: various executive tables made of solid beech wood, natural veneer of the root of the olive tree and “natural buffalo skin of dark green color”. “The decoration of all elements of the table, the front part and the sides is the olive wood veneer, the countertops are the olive wood veneer, the veneer texture repeats and emphasizes the natural wood pattern, the insert is made of genuine leather in dark green with gold embossed,” - specified in the tender documentation. The meeting table descriptions are impressive as well, the tabletop of which should be finished as follows: “an array of beech wood with an insert of green buffalo leather with gold embossing and decorated around the perimeter with a shaped profile of complex section”. Gold-colored wheels should be on some seats.

[Strategy]

If this is not your article, do not cite it here. Just give the link and express your opinion in your own words. Do not take a place, please ...

[rolik]

I usually express my opinion at the end of the article, and I always compile the article itself so that there is less sawdust in it .. But, in your opinion, it turns out that you need to start your own thought-process-Wet everyone who is not with us !! and immediately end with the slogan - Viva Fatherland !!. That's where the storehouse of information will be (sorry)

[Strategy]

I will explain again: you give a link to the article and your short comment. If anyone is interested, he will find and read. And so far you’ll read everything that they posted here, how much time will go. I respect someone else’s opinion and don’t suffer from patriotism - read my comments. On the contrary, I urge a sober and critical assessment of the situation.

[strelok_2077]

And let's shoot him ... Although ... only it "will not be enough".

[rolik]

Here, a detailed description of the furniture for the Ministry of Defense is intentionally given. The reader must appreciate the delicate taste and high professionalism of Anatoly Serdyukov. The fact is that furniture is the real profession of the minister: “From 1985 to 1991, he was the head of the section of the Lenmebeltorg store No. 3” (from the biography of Anatoly Serdyukov). However, first things first ...
In the biography of Anatoly Serdyukov, posted on the official website of the Ministry of Defense, there is a hole in about 15 years. “From 1984 to 1985 he served in the Armed Forces ...” And immediately: “From 2000 to 2004 - Deputy Head of the Inspectorate, Deputy, Head of the Office of the Ministry of the Russian Federation for Taxes and Levies for Work with the Largest Taxpayers in St. Petersburg -Petersburg ... "
... The Institute of Soviet Trade named after Friedrich Engels has long been called the St. Petersburg Trade and Economic Institute. Students are trained in the same specialties - a highly qualified merchandiser, economist, auditor, specialist in accounting and business analysis ... On the walls are billboards engraved with quotes from Bolshevik ideologists - Lenin, Marx and Engels. The teaching staff has remained the same.
“I myself am a former military man, and the appointment of Serdyukov to such a high position seems rather strange to me,” the vice-rector of the institute told reporters from MK. - We are categorically against our institute being featured in the biography of the current Minister of Defense. I think that Anatoly Eduardovich himself is not at hand. Indeed, trade education only discredits the minister. So that we can extract the personal student ID of student Anatoly Serdyukov from the archives only after the order of the minister. But such instructions have not yet been received. Also, we do not have the right to help you in the search for his classmates. What if Serdyukov had a bad relationship with them? Maybe he beat someone's face? For example, some publications have already written that Serdyukov graduated with honors - I can’t confirm this. In any case, this fact is unknown to me.
Law faculty at St. Petersburg State University were more talkative. The press service of the faculty clearly stated to us all the information collected by Serdyukov. He graduated, they say, from the evening department, in 2001 he defended his diploma ... Just to find fellow students of the Minister of Defense for St. Petersburg State University proved to be a futile activity: “By that time Serdyukov held a serious position in the furniture business, so he appeared infrequently at the university. We doubt that he was friends with any of his classmates. ”
But former students of the trading institute shared their memories of the young man of Anatolia from the Krasnodar Territory: “We found times of total deficit for just about everything. Of course, in such conditions, the seller’s profession was bread. The competition on admission ranged from five to nine people per seat, depending on the faculty. Serdyukov studied at the most prestigious accounting and economics faculty. The passing score there was quite high. Entrance exams had to be passed on almost one “five”.
According to rumors, Anatoly Serdyukov entered the Leningrad Institute thanks to the patronage of the head of the Chernomortransneft oil and gas production department, who took care of the young man while he was still living in the Krasnodar Territory. Anatoly himself did not even think about higher education. Serdyukov planned to finish vocational school, get a specialty car mechanic and settle in his native land.

After the fourth year, students were assigned to practice. According to classmates Anatoly Eduardovich, Serdyukov got the place of assistant accountant in one of Lenmebeltorg's furniture stores. Then he made a favorable impression on the management of the enterprise, which helped him to gain a foothold in the plant in the future: “Tolya was lucky. For him put in a word the bosses of Lenmebeltorg. So he stayed in Leningrad. ” Who are the parents of Serdyukov, how he lived in Krasnodar - these questions remained unanswered for classmates of the Minister of Defense. “Tolik was an inconspicuous guy. I only remember him because I was a Komsomol member of the group, ”recalled classmate Galina Zhidova. - The fact that after the institute Tolia worked for a long time in a furniture store, we knew. Someone from ours even turned to him for help, so that Serdyukov would help to get an imported headset out of turn. But, in my opinion, Tolya refused. That was such a principled guy! ”
There was no military department at the Leningrad Institute of Trade, and Serdyukov was forced to serve in the Soviet Army in 1984-1985. But for some reason, instead of the prescribed two years, he served only a half. That's the whole military experience of the Minister of Defense!
Serdyukov worked at Lenmebeltorg's largest store No. 3 on Moris Torez Avenue. (Now in this building on the ground floor there is still a furniture salon, however, today the room belongs to people from the Caucasus.) In 1986, store No. 3 moved to the next 40th house. A few years later the sign “Furniture” was replaced by a new one - “Dresden”. Until now, residents of the Northern capital recall the heyday of the largest department store, where they traded furniture from the GDR. Serdyukov was in charge of the wall department.
For fashionable narrow walls with glass doors and upholstered furniture, people from all regions of the Soviet Union came to Leningrad. In the provinces, the so-called bus tours to the city on the Neva were organized, which ended at the doorstep of the Dresden supermarket. “The position of the section head, which Serdyukov held, was not just prestigious, but very enviable,” a former employee of Dresden shared with MK reporters on anonymity basis. - By the way, Serdyukov himself never bought utensils from Dresden. After all, only the first furniture samples sent to us from the GDR turned out to be more or less decent. The remaining copies were of terrible quality. ” The Lenmebeltorg organization has not existed for many years. And Anatoly Eduardovich himself until 2000 held the post of General Director of Furniture-Market JSC.

In 1998, he became a co-founder of a certain Dialog LLC. His partner is a certain Oleg Khukhli, one of the founders of the League of State Security Stock Officers. Communication with the fighters of the invisible front prompted Serdyukov to enter the law faculty of St. Petersburg State University, which he graduated in 2001. However, the sharp rise in the career of a furniture dealer is not associated with a second higher education, but with the marriage of Serdyukov to the only daughter of an official Viktor Zubkov, who first worked under Putin's leadership in Smolny, then headed the tax office in St. Petersburg, commanded Russia's financial intelligence and even visited the prime minister’s chair Minister. “They met at the correspondence law school, where both received a second higher education. Julia then worked in a bank, and Anatoly Eduardovich was still engaged in furniture. She was already divorced, but he still hadn’t officially divorced him, ”Natalia, an employee of the St. Petersburg Tax and Duties Department, told The Interlocutor.
And in May 2001, only a few months after joining the tax service, Serdyukov became deputy head, and another six months later - the head of the inspection of the Northern capital. He did not have problems with his further career. In 2004, after the arrest of Khodorkovsky, Anatoly Serdyukov became the head of the Federal Tax Service of Russia. He immediately deprived his subordinates of lunch, having canceled lunch breaks in inspections, and, possibly, thereby increased the level of tax collection. His department, without any embarrassment, made custom-made claims against disgraced oligarchs, primarily from Yukos. That is why Putin appointed the Minister of Defense of this professional furniture maker to become a vacant.
However, similarly occupied the highest posts in the military department and other officials. For example, Nadezhda Sinnikova, who graduated from the Kursk Agricultural Institute in 1982, became the head of Rosoboronpostavka, the Federal Agency for the Supply of Arms, Military, Special Equipment and Materials, which forms and implements the state defense order. Since June 1990, she worked in tax authorities (Serdyukov headed the Federal Tax Service in 2004).
How the military supply department works can be judged by the reports of the prosecutor's office and the Accounts Chamber. In March 2010, at a board of the Ministry of Defense, the Main Military Prosecutor's Office (GWP) reported that last year, 1 billion rubles of damage was caused to government procurement in the field of defense procurement. But the "informed source" in the Ministry of Defense believes that the corruption picture looks even darker: in vain, at least 50% of the funds allocated for arms purchases are spent. And this is just this year - more than 200 billion rubles!

The Accounts Chamber has identified the champion for squandering state funds: in 2006-2007, more than 70% of the total amount of misuse of the budget fell on the Ministry of Defense. The documents of the joint venture say about 164,1 million rubles spent by the Ministry of Defense inappropriately. In total, auditors revealed 62 facts of misuse of federal budget funds for a total amount of 226,1 million rubles. Independent experts believe that in fact the scale of squandering funds in the military is much larger, and joint venture auditors noticed only the most obvious waste.
The chief military prosecutor’s office is not in vain sounding the alarm: over the past 10 years, officer crime in the Russian army has reached the highest level. Chief Military Prosecutor Sergei Fridinsky made several high-profile statements to the press: “In 2009, 6 generals received real sentences of imprisonment for various official crimes. More often than not, they are jailed for abuse, abuse of authority, and fraud. In 2008, damage to the state from corruption in the Russian forces amounted to 1,5 billion rubles, and in 2009 this figure exceeded 3 billion. The growth is more than obvious ...
These lines are taken from the book "The Kremlin's Dirty Linen"

[oldmen1973]

Many interesting comments both in support of Serdyukov, and in his resignation. Moreover, such calculations are given, you are already amazed how smart our people are! I myself only graduated from an engineering and technical school (not even an institute), I did not have any type academies, and even more so the General Staff Academy, so I will express my opinion in a simple way.
For me, the main thing in the reform is what I see with my own eyes.
1. On the issue of keeping promises. A friend is already in the FOURTH year behind the state - waiting for an apartment. Recently a notice came - I went to look at the living space, and it turns out that people have been living for more than a year and obviously do not plan to move out (not only in this apartment, but in the whole house).
2. On the issue of monetary allowance. In the unit in which he served until December 2011 (after leaving for a well-deserved retirement) of 11 contracted military personnel (officers, ensigns and sergeants) four did not issue DD for February, that is 36% of the payroll.
3. On the issue of outsourcing in the army. Before the exercises "Center-2011", to which my military unit was involved in order to staff the civilian positions of cooks, from May 2011 to September, we agreed with the command of the Western Military District, the secondment of conscripts, since the GP for the money that pays to work (and all the more so to go on a business trip, but to work in the field) do not want to.
4. On the issue of rearmament. Since September 2011, the UAZ commanders were taken away, the number of vehicles involved in the transportation of goods and personnel was reduced, they came up with WRONG (you can’t say otherwise) about concluding a contract for the performance of these works with civil organizations. For what?
5. On the issue of contractors. In 2010, according to the directives, he dismissed contractors, in 2011 - on the contrary, he recruited. What will my replacement do in 2012, I don’t know yet.
Etc. etc.
Yes, there are positive changes, and it pleases - the share of modern arms and military equipment is increasing (although I have never had a chance to see it), as a whole, money has started to be paid for the armed forces, and pensions have increased. They say they still give apartments (although they used to give them before - I got the captain in 2001 and didn’t let anyone on my paw). And in my opinion this is all positive.
And the fact that during the reform, the old logistical support of the troops was completely destroyed (I say because I myself was a logistician), and the new one has not been established? The fact that young people who come to replace us in the army have only money on their minds? The fact that educational work is stalled in the units, often left to the mercy of civil psychologists, and the Battle Banners (pride and glory of military units) have been removed from posts No. 1 to secret units? The fact that now the commanders have duties "like in a regiment", and opportunities "like a platoon"? Who will be responsible for this? Serdyukov will be removed and this is not a question. The question is whether he will be punished for this. And the question is who will be after him. Rumor has it that Rogozin. My opinion - God forbid! Was a furniture maker, will become a shark pen! (I looked at his biography - he turns out to be awarded a PERSONAL WEAPON!)

[Vlaleks48]

At a meeting in the Defense Ministry, the Head of State reported to those present there
about successful passage of army reform and other things.
So friends!
It's only the beginning?!

[APASUS]

The 2 scandal.

The Russian Audit Chamber revealed that last year out of more than 700 billion rubles of budget money spent, as stated in the document, for other purposes,

In the not-so-distant times, only for this it was possible to go cut down the forest .............. well, how lucky it is, you can take a bullet. And in modern Russia he will also be given a pension of 300 thousand! !!!!!!!

[Aleksey67]

Dear Site Administration, I restrained myself and was silent. I did not give you any promises, and so my hands are untied.
I return to the Sunday SHOW, I got tired of your "ye ... ki", for today's minuses I am a record holder, but to offend mothers and wives, as it does, a certain PIDOPAS calling himself YARYY, even though he looks like SIVY got sick.
Persecute me, but why delete comments and your pack of mongrels has already got it. The moderator itself is a worthy post, not everyone will take on this "burden". And believe me, most members of the forum want to develop the site and improve the culture of communication.

P R E D A L A Y A:
1. Do not delete posts, but moderate profanity or insults in them, but indicate in the message
- (nickname modera) warning for checkmate
- (moderator nickname) warning for insult (indicate initiator nickname)

Thus, there will be no repeated imposition of before ... I got up to 3 for one, because every "vigilante" seeing my attitude to one immediately "punished" not knowing that I was already punished by "another avenger". The punishment for one offense several times is "not demoralizing".

Threat I do not give anyone the right to believe that I was offended

2. mods should be "visible" for members of the forum, as a fact, some kind of "gambling" mold gives me the impression, and only after receiving it in a personal I find out that the Joker is a modernization, got it. This one ... stood up for the "honor of the uniform" ... and did not fulfill his duties

Vadivaku, and something the Urals with Ava Pu can be granted the rights of Global Moderators so that they can follow and punish moderators, Prohibit them from minus or pay them for work

[sprut]

It seems to me that his days are numbered, especially since he has already done all the dirty work ...

[general-oberst]

The Moor has done his job, the Moor may leave!?!

[mind1954]

So still can not understand what it was May 9, 2011?
There is a parade on Red Square, and there are three people in front of the mausoleum,
lounging in armchairs. Do they have sore feet? Then nothing
walk in parades ?!

[Magadan]

Guys !!! The Union of Officers wants to be recognized as an Extremist Organization and the bastard judges want to ban it. Here is the message. let's
who can participate as much as possible:
13 March 2012 in the suit of the Ministry of Justice of the Russian Federation to the “Union of Officers”, the Nagatinsky District Court of Moscow issued a decision: “To recognize the All-Russian public organization“ Union of Officers ”ceased to operate as a legal entity.” However, the matter did not end there, due to new circumstances.

The “Union of Officers” calls on all its members, friends, associates of supporters and allies to individually and collectively come forward against the arbitrariness of the authorities with all possible forms of protest in order to exclude similar political and legal bacchanalia in the future not only against us, but also our allies (for that same pattern).

Any protest should be sent to the following addresses: the Kremlin administration, deputies of the State Duma, Federal Assembly, the Government of the Russian Federation, the Ministry of Justice of the Russian Federation.
Address of the Ministry of Justice: 119049, Moscow, ul. Zhitnaya, house.14.
Or by fax: [phone] (Copy by e-mail: [email protected])

2. The structures that the Union of Officers are destroying today will not stop there. They are trying to keep the organization’s leadership under constant psychological and legal pressure.

For more than a year, the prosecutor’s office and the courts of Moscow “pressed” the organization to recognize the “Union of Officers” as “extremist”. The next court consists on March 20 in 15.00 at the following address: Moscow, st. Bogorodsky Val, house.8. Moscow City Court.

Comrade officers! Friends and associates! We will unite our ranks and give a fitting rebuff to the enemies of the Organization, which for more than twenty years has in fact defended the interests of Great Russia, its Armed Forces, other power structures and our officer corps: personnel, stock, retired and their families under the motto: “For Power, Honor and Dignity. ”

[NickitaDembelnulsa]

I don’t want to see Serdyukov at all, especially after his words: “the soldier paid his debt to the homeland, that is, CROSSED THIS ONE YEAR FROM HIS LIFE, AND NOW WITH A CLEAN CONSCIENCE, etc. And how can he be the Minister of Defense after such words. There was no such thing under Ivanov.

[lokdok]

The main mistake of Serdyukov is that he toughly and consistently carried out military reform. And this affected the reduction of many Moscow generals, firms sticking to the army and all sorts of heroic ensigns in warehouses. But thanks to this, the content of soldiers with a machine gun in their hands, and not rear rats, increased. Such people are always hated - after all, many of the powers that be have suffered. Well, it’s not the village boys who can bring thousands of people from Chechnya in tombs - who will remember them.

But now he has done his mission, he has received his portion of hatred and must leave, and only history will put everything in its place.

[oldmen1973]

First, they fired contractors, and a year later recruited them again - in your opinion, is this consistent reform? And the fact that with the generals and "heroic ensigns" doctors, teachers in universities, partly positions associated with the maintenance of weapons and military equipment and many others - this is not his "blunder".
Well, if you served in the army in positions higher than private and non-commissioned officers, then you should understand that without, as you call them, "rear rats" (chief products, chiefs, chief of fuel and lubricants, cooks, storekeepers, etc.) no syuda ".
Reduced financial services, God bless them. They created the FBU, they just started work, only the money went under various articles, you didn’t like the money for them - give them to ERRC! Where is the planning and consistency?
So after this "vaunted reform" commanders have to decide how to refuel the equipment, where and how to carry out its maintenance, how to ensure the supply of materiel and personnel. And then there is Bulgakov (deputy of the Ministry of Defense) said that since 2013, military personnel will buy clothing under the contract on their own. Well, now it remains to order the military to buy weapons in stores, and then all the enemies will surely be afraid of us !!!!

[Alekseev]

Serdyukov is just like Napolen "Reformat" when fleeing from the borders of Russia after the defeat: from great to ridiculous ... history will judge ...
Something was not from him initiatives, so that not only "village boys" serve in the urgent army!
I would have set up a professional Rapid Reaction Force with my "good" generals and women. Honor and praise!
So as not to "carry thousands of boys", but no, "conscripts are planned to be used in the posts of privates," ie, riflemen, grenade launchers, in the infantry, so to speak, here you (God forbid) and extra coffins.
With water, Serdyukov and the company splashed out a child.
No one is defending "many Moscow generals, little firms who have sucked into the army and all sorts of heroic ensigns in warehouses."
But whether there are fewer "suckers" is a big question!

[understudy]

http://www.zavtra.ru/content/view/taburetka-tresnula/
Infa specialist for those who do not see anything criminal in the activities of the fieldman.

[Region65]

there would be at least one warrior who was really offended by Taburetkin ... yes, what would the warriors have in the SVD shed, and with cartridges, and with the sight, so that that warrior would climb the roof ... yes, he would have pulled this traitor of the Motherland forehead, right in between his thief's pegs .....

[savelij]

Under Stalin, such as Serdyukov would have long been shot! How enemies of the people!

[welder]

hell, but really some kind of performance ... well-veiled, right ... presidents, Serdyukovs, Rogozins, their relatives .... you look, and there Obama, Sarkozy and other evil spirits ... are all these our reproaches West, a veto in Syria is all a show ?! (this is my reasoning however)

[marauder]

Serdyukov promised to purchase imported sniper rifles for special forces.
The snipers were waiting for them. However, our domestic SV-98 arrived.
To the question where is the import? responded that in order to purchase imported weapons, they must be accepted for service.

Serdyukov knew this very well, but on TV throughout the country he praised imported rifles.
It’s probably not worth throwing dirt on a person if we don’t know everything.
It seems that all these statements are being made for our sworn friends.

I think that so far everything is fine.

[d.gksueyjd]

Yeltsin also spoke in Budenovsk. that every militant is watched by a sniper and awaits commands. EVERYONE KNOWS THAT THIS HAPPENED

[choice]

Well, if you shoot for the same thing as Serdyuk and the target of the marked and red-haired one and all his familiar shushara, otherwise they’ve probably already staked out a place in the Novodevichy cemetery.

[Patriot]

This Serdyukov is a good guy. He does his job well, assigned to him by Comrade Putin. With honor and conscience.
He spoiled the army beyond recognition. They say we almost don’t have it anymore... These are the words of one of my acquaintances - servicemen. As I see from the reviews, there are a lot of service people here. Please tell me if my friend is right or wrong?

Glory to Putin!

[Hel]

2016 To complete the army reform, the director of the Russian State Circus was appointed to the post of Minister of Defense....

[d.gksueyjd]

Bravo!!!, I’m sure there would be more respect, and there would be no point either

[general-oberst]

People !!! Yes, look at this image, this is the same brother from the 90s who came to the Strelka to mow down the money, all in girls and security. They will kill anyone, even honored colonels, even generals. And in their place they stick their own invertebrates, but with smooth lips and the necessary roughness with their tongues. Makarka is the first to be criticized, and they also label him a hero of Russia. Our enemies piss boiling water on the ceiling with happiness.

[ioann1]

Rogozin to the Minister of Defense!

[d.gksueyjd]

Please answer -- "Hero of Russia" - Chief of General Staff IS IT TRUE? or not?, otherwise I’m in a state of shock

[Love77]

Damn, I was hoping I was hallucinating because I had no money for three months. That means Hero.

[Colonel]

Darling, don’t be afraid, they’ll be canonized in a month. And as for the salary, well......

[patriot2]

Our Minister of Defense, Serdyukov, has completed his task of castrating the Armed Forces, now other great things await him. It would be nice to assign him to the Ministry of Internal Affairs, otherwise Nurgaliev dismissed the entire personnel. God forbid they put Nurgaliev on the Moscow Region. Maybe I'm wrong, but it hurts. Stop mocking officers and generals.

[Deniska999]

Serdyukov needs to be driven out, but someone is covering for him. This is our democracy...

[d.gksueyjd]

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Our Minister of Defense, Serdyukov, has completed his task of castrating the Armed Forces, now other great things await him. It would be nice to assign him to the Ministry of Internal Affairs, otherwise Nurgaliev dismissed the entire personnel. God forbid they put Nurgaliev on the Moscow Region. Maybe I'm wrong, but it hurts. Stop mocking officers and generals.

You are absolutely right, and it would be even better to promote him to a leadership position in NATO. Please tell me that GDP might understand.

[d.gksueyjd]

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Our Minister of Defense, Serdyukov, has completed his task of castrating the Armed Forces, now other great things await him. It would be nice to assign him to the Ministry of Internal Affairs, otherwise Nurgaliev dismissed the entire personnel. God forbid they put Nurgaliev on the Moscow Region. Maybe I'm wrong, but it hurts. Stop mocking officers and generals.

You are absolutely right, and it would be even better to promote him to a leadership position in NATO. Please tell me that GDP can understand where Serdyukov’s place is.

[Logic]

Serdyukov is a distant relative of Medvedev’s wife. No major reforms to eliminate our army are carried out without a report to the president. In St. Petersburg, 600 km of leaky pipes were buried. - Corruption.
Serdyukov introduced cheap Chinese uniforms for military personnel.
Serdyukov reduced the number of military doctors in military hospitals by 40%. He sold a lot of military sanatoriums, but the people he kicked out of the army, even if the sanatoriums were restored, would never return, they didn’t give a damn.
Fighting is not making furniture. In 5 years, he destroyed the army so much that it will take more than a dozen years to restore this damage.
I also want to say that all the military sanatoriums that he closed are not just where military/soldiers/retirees are treated - it is also their place of rehabilitation. Suddenly there’s a war - we don’t have any doctors, he cut it by 40%.
He will destroy our army.
Great, patient Russian people. (Pavel M 16 years. http://vk.com/tranquility_invulnerability)
We will never have a good future, never. People's consciousness is disturbed, people's thinking is disturbed. The USSR collapsed due to the fact that man ceased to be human. We will degrade. Alas.