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The government itself created the "Holy" of a character who has never been particularly respected.

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The authorities showed signs of respect for the last Russian Tsar Nicholas II, solemnly buried him and his family, claiming in one form or another, or indicating that they consider their execution a crime, and the Bolsheviks guilty of this crime.
Why is she now surprised when there are people who are ready to take active steps to defend the name, and - as they consider - the honor of the ousted and shot ruler ...


The government itself created the "Holy" of a character who has never been particularly respected.


If we assume that Nikolai Romanov is a saint, the devotees of this saint are his admirers, in order to honor and protect him.

Make a film about the "adultery of Mahomet" - do you need to doubt the possible consequences? It was the Communists who were so peaceful and herbivorous that they didn’t respond to libelous about their idols at the end of 80's ... and why they were banned in 1991 year.

Whether Nikolay Romanov is worthy or not worthy of the worship and protection of his name and honor is irrelevant. But if the state demonstrated for a quarter of a century that it was worthy - what makes it indignant today ...

Actually, the attitude towards Nicholas is different. In 2013, the Levada Center conducted a survey on this topic - the results were not very relevant to how the official authorities and the official church treat it - and later no such studies were conducted. But 2013 year is not so long ago.

23% of citizens considered him to be an innocent victim of the “Bolshevik terror”. A bad ruler, although he has redeemed everything by his death - 25%. A deserter who threw the country in a difficult moment, guilty of everything that happened later - 18%. The culprit of bringing Russia to poverty, to disaster, overthrown by the insurgent people - 12%.

That is, for 23%, it is an innocent victim. For 55,% is a criminal who deserves to be executed.

There is a minority that considers him holy. There is a majority that considers him a criminal. But in this case, it does not even matter who there is more: together, in any case, they constitute the vast majority of the country.

For those who consider him a saint, a film about the "sins of the saint", which includes bed scenes with this saint, is unacceptable. For those who consider him a Criminal, a film about the “romantic, uplifting love” of this Criminal is unacceptable.

It is unlikely that society will understand the film about the sexually romantic hobbies of Hitler or Chikotilo.

To shoot in these conditions any film about a person causing such an attitude is already a problem, because such a film deliberately provokes tensions and divisions in society.

The government itself created the "Holy" from a character who has never enjoyed special respect, even among fans of the monarchy. And now she can not cope with the summoned ghost

He is a criminal or a saint (to be honest, both of these names are noticeably at variance with the scale of Nikolai's personality) - he is certainly a tragic character. It was a crime to shoot him, or he was a well-deserved punishment and a verdict carried out by the people - in any case, it was a tragedy.

Demonstrating the bed scenes of a tragedy character is already a bad taste. The problem is that bad taste has become the essential tool of a certain type of "cultural figures." It is clear that the main task of the artist - to achieve an emotional reaction and co-feelings to his work.

It is also clear that when there is talent, co-feeling is achieved by talent, and not by shocking. When there is not enough talent for this, the only tool left to cause any reaction, except for boredom, is shocking and provocation.

And one of their main elements is an insult. This is the most reliable. The person who wants to acquire or confirm the reputation of the “artist” knows that in order to be recognized one must be made to talk about himself and to cause as much fierce disputes as possible around his “life product”. And he provokes and insults, because he understands - then they will not keep silent. And then some will curse, others to protect, and he himself will become a symbol - for some exaltation, for others - curses.

In this respect, both Teacher and Poklonskaya are similar: both authors are shocking. One insulted the memory of those who fell into the Great Patriotic War, carrying out a portrait of 9 on May, a portrait of the emperor who had been executed, who had no relation to her and was despised by the soldiers. The other did a mirror, insulting those who, thanks to a quarter-century powerful demonstration of the veneration of Nicholas and the era that had passed with him, accepted this reverence.

The government itself shocked when, having already renounced another epoch - the epoch of the Republic and the Revolution - insulted her memory and the memory of her heroes, honoring one of the images she and the antipodal ones. And she herself was engaged in political provocations in this regard, and she herself was dumbfounded and began to call the police when she saw her generation.

But if a certain part of society has its own “shrines”, the duty of the state is to protect these feelings and objects of worship of this part of society. Either she must forbid their worship. If the worship of the same Nicholas is not prohibited, then it must be protected by the state. Though Nicholas, even Lenin, even Stalin.

If certain members of the public take actions that offend a certain part of the society, the state is obliged to protect the latter. If the state does not do this, the offended will defend themselves. And if something is publicly demonstrated that offends them, the offended have the right to demand a ban on such demonstrations. If the authorities do not hear them, they have no choice but to stop such demonstrations by their own actions.

And the law, strictly speaking, has nothing to do with it. Because if the law ceases to cause respect and recognition, it will not be observed one way or another. If the cinema network refused to show the film that caused the protests of a significant part of society, then. they simply demonstrated that they respect the audience and citizens more than the “cultural workers” who insult the latter and the information part of the art class that covers them.

The favorite saying of a well-known part of society, “No one has the right to forbid an artist to display his work,” is not exactly proven and is not based on anything real.

First - that is understandable - this work should at least not violate the law. In particular - not to lead to mass unrest and not to initiate strife.

Secondly: from what does it even follow that something special is possible for an artist? For some strange whim of events, it became natural to assume that cultural and art workers are some so special that they should enjoy special rights and veneration, just on the grounds that they are referred to as artists - sometimes by self-designation, and not by created masterpieces. . But at the same time, they have the right to judge and insult.

With the same success of such a right - often with great reason - even doctors, teachers, engineers, scientists, could demand it. By the way, if workers and peasants once again recall such a special right, many others may long be tempted to talk about their special rights.

Certainly, “Nicolae-worshiping” is an extravagant thing for an adequate person. And close to the Black Hundreds. But for that matter, an active protest against the delights of the creators of the outrageous artistic environment - even against the outrageous “Matilda”, even against the outrageous Zvyagintsev, even against the outrageous Raikin or Serebryannikov - is not found an adequate form and expressed ugly, but a natural and inevitable reaction society to the constant offensive-provocative epatage of a significant part of the "public class" of the country. So public that this term reminds of a completely different meaning.

And the fact that certain retrograde forms, the authorities, when she insulted post-revolutionary Russia and her memory, had to think about who she would bring to life with her illiterate outrageous.
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  1. tasha
    tasha 19 September 2017 04: 23
    +14
    The author of the article is still that pretzel. In one article, he managed to kick the power, Poklonskaya and contemporary artists. I forgot the journalists ...
    It’s not clear, did he watch the film? And what scenes of him, for example, a supporter of the holiness of Nicholas 2 could lead to righteous indignation? Or vice versa, to express bewilderment about the hype because of something incomprehensible ....
    1. Mar.Tirah
      Mar.Tirah 19 September 2017 06: 33
      +31
      This idiot Poklonskaya is already beginning to enrage. The Russian Orthodox Church will be silent. Because if she opposes this film, she will violate the commandments about sinners. The first person to enter paradise according to the Gospel was a robber. And not a single believer in two millennia of Christianity was offended by the fact that the biographies of saints were published without cuts. On the contrary, the example of conversion from sin has a powerful edifying meaning. For a Christian, blasphemy can only be malicious invention, slander, and slander, but no one will forbid sectarians like the Cerebrozhniks. Https: //lenta.ru/articles/2017/09/18/mat
      /
      1. EwgenyZ
        EwgenyZ 19 September 2017 09: 13
        +13
        Quote: Mar. Tira
        This idiot Poklonskaya is already beginning to enrage

        You, as I understand it, have done more for Russia than Poklonskaya, and therefore have the right to insult a person ?!
        1. Diana Ilyina
          Diana Ilyina 19 September 2017 09: 28
          +47
          EwgenyZ Today, 09:13 ↑ New
          You, as I understand it, have done more for Russia than Poklonskaya, and therefore have the right to insult a person ?!
          But what exactly did she do ?! Please announce the full list of merits ?! And what does a person living and most importantly WORKING for the good of his country do so less than the former prosecutor, and now the deputy who does hell knows what, but not his direct duties ?! Or her crazy little antics with portraits on May 9 and the prohibition of the film "Matilda" is called "do a lot for Russia" ?!
          1. ivagulin
            ivagulin 19 September 2017 09: 48
            +6
            Respect Diana, here on the car radio it’s good in a song of her and similar “workers”, even hooked
          2. EwgenyZ
            EwgenyZ 19 September 2017 09: 55
            +12
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            But what exactly did she do ?! Please announce the full list of merits ?!

            Well, at least, support for the reunification of Crimea, do you think this is not enough?


            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            And what does a person living and most importantly WORKING for the good of his country do so less than a former prosecutor

            Nothing! Also worthy of respect. However, insulting another because He thinks not so, it seems to me somehow "not humanly" ....

            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            Or her lunatic antics with portraits on May 9

            And if she came out with a portrait of A.V. Suvorov or Dmitry Donskoy, who had no relation whatsoever to the USSR, would also be a half-mind?
            1. Nitochkin
              Nitochkin 19 September 2017 10: 08
              +24
              Now, if I came out with their portraits, there would be no questions. The same to me, I found with whom to equate the weakling Nikolai.
              Z.Y. Something I do not remember the state awards of the Great Patriotic War named after Nicholas II.
              1. EwgenyZ
                EwgenyZ 19 September 2017 10: 44
                +4
                Quote: Nitochkin
                Now, if I came out with their portraits, there would be no questions


                Why not? Due to the fact that Joseph Vissarionovich "covered himself" with their images at the awards?


                Quote: Nitochkin
                Z.Y. Something I do not remember the state awards of the Great Patriotic War named after Nicholas II.


                Well, duck was another power. It would be strange for the Communists to "draw" their antipode for awards. And Suvorov and Donskoy did not immediately “deserve” such an honor, but only when the Soviet regime was “baked”. And it took real heroes, not "heroes of the revolution" and civil war.
                1. Nitochkin
                  Nitochkin 19 September 2017 12: 01
                  +24
                  Those. Is all the glory of Suvorov and Donskoy that Stalin “covered up” with them? You are definitely adequate, since people are keeping idiots? Suvorov and Donskoy are great as Warriors in the memory of the people, and who and when they "covered themselves" with them is the tenth matter. And their portraits are appropriate at any military parade or memorial procession.
                  1. EwgenyZ
                    EwgenyZ 19 September 2017 14: 44
                    +1
                    Quote: Nitochkin
                    You are definitely adequate, since people are keeping idiots?

                    Do not believe it - I do not hold!

                    Quote: Nitochkin
                    And their portraits are appropriate at any military parade or memorial procession.

                    Well, why, before the Great Patriotic War, other “heroes” were appropriate, and Suvorov and Donskoy became relevant only when the authorities needed to raise “fighting spirit”.
              2. w70
                w70 21 September 2017 22: 00
                +3
                Maybe a wimp, but only in six years (1896, 1899, 1900, 1902, 1908, 1911), the king shot 3786 stray dogs, 6176 stray cats and 20 547 ravens
                1. bodzu
                  bodzu 23 September 2017 05: 03
                  +2
                  That is, those God's creatures who could not answer him. But! In the event of a real threat, he fell into a stupor, helped destroy the state, condoned the destruction of his loyal subjects, as well as an exemplary family man and, as a result, a “holy man.” M.S. Gorbachev, B.N. Yeltsin.
            2. Diana Ilyina
              Diana Ilyina 19 September 2017 10: 09
              +32
              EwgenyZ Today, 09:55 ↑
              Well, at least, support for the reunification of Crimea, do you think this is not enough?
              This is the argument that killed me on the spot ...! fool Strong...!!! good According to this criterion, more than 90 percent of the population passes by me, including myself! Give everyone a star of the hero of Russia, and urgently ...! laughing laughing laughing
              However, insulting another because He thinks not so, it seems to me somehow "not humanly" ....
              A statement of its activities is not an insult. Let him not do idiotic things and no one will call her an idiot!
              And if she came out with a portrait of A.V. Suvorov or Dmitry Donskoy, who had no relation whatsoever to the USSR, would also be a half-mind?
              Both Suvorov and Donskoy have more to do with 9 of May than Nikolai the Bloody!
              1. EwgenyZ
                EwgenyZ 19 September 2017 10: 55
                +6
                Quote: Diana Ilyina
                This is the argument that killed me on the spot ...!


                Well, something tells me that "90-odd percent of the population" was not in Crimea at the events indicated. And therefore, support for the processes of reunification from safe Russia and support for the processes inside the potential hot spot are of different sizes.


                Quote: Diana Ilyina
                A statement of its activities is not an insult.

                Well, you are also here, "it’s not God’s news," what kind of activity you are conducting, you are not offended.



                Quote: Diana Ilyina
                Both Suvorov and Donskoy have more to do with 9 of May than Nikolai the Bloody!


                Well, yes))) Especially when you consider that Suvorov was a monarchist "to the bone," and Dmitry Donskoy himself was a monarch. And under no circumstances, neither one nor the other would support either the February or October coups. And if they were alive, maybe there would not have been a Great Patriotic War ....
                1. Diana Ilyina
                  Diana Ilyina 19 September 2017 11: 12
                  +26
                  EwgenyZ Today, 10:55 ↑
                  Well, something tells me that "90-odd percent of the population" was not in Crimea at the events indicated. And therefore, support for the processes of reunification from safe Russia and support for the processes inside the potential hot spot are of different sizes.
                  Firstly, she took office on March 11, 2014, 5 days before the referendum, when our troops were already in the Crimea and there was no real threat to life and health! Secondly, a person’s previous actions do not justify his current actions! General Vlasov was the hero of the battle for Moscow, and now what, let's forget about his betrayal ?!
                  Well, you are also here, "it’s not God’s news," what kind of activity you are conducting, you are not offended.
                  At least I do not condone the bloody monarch and his inadequate admirer.
                  And yet you are mistaken, insulting more and how!
                  And if they were alive, maybe there would not have been a Great Patriotic War ....
                  If they were alive, they probably would not have allowed a rag to govern the country, which brought the country to collapse, devastation and three revolutions!
                  1. bober1982
                    bober1982 19 September 2017 11: 21
                    +1
                    Quote: Diana Ilyina
                    Firstly, she took office on March 11, 2014, 5 days before the referendum, when our troops were already in the Crimea

                    Foolish, but this is Ukrobander propaganda! smoothly so everything, according to the training manual, burned down - "the son of the builder of the Crimean bridge."
                    1. sanja.grw
                      sanja.grw 19 September 2017 11: 31
                      +4
                      when our troops were already in the Crimea

                      Foolish, but this is Ukrobander propaganda! smoothly so everything, according to the training manual, burned down - "the son of the builder of the Crimean bridge."

                      In fact, our troops in the Crimea have always been, in Sevastopol naval base
                      1. bober1982
                        bober1982 19 September 2017 11: 40
                        +1
                        and where does it ......already stood[/ b], exactly already, and and here .... March 11, 2014[B] Not convinced.
                        For spies, after all, as it happens (they show in movies), failures. One thing is in the head, and the language is completely different, but it happens that they break in the head, then in the language (show in movies)
                    2. vovanpain
                      vovanpain 19 September 2017 11: 36
                      +12
                      Quote: bober1982
                      Foolish, but this is Ukrobander propaganda! smoothly so everything, according to the training manual, burned down - "the son of the builder of the Crimean bridge"

                      And you, dear, didn’t you know? request The most recent homeless person in Papua New Guinea knew this, except for you, probably. laughing
                      1. bober1982
                        bober1982 19 September 2017 11: 57
                        +1
                        But this could be known only to such large "paper" military leaders as you, experts "marshals" came running
                    3. Pancir026
                      Pancir026 19 September 2017 15: 32
                      +7
                      [truote = bober1982] Aw, and this is Ukrobander propaganda! [/ quote]
                      Sir, you are the true heir to Goebbels’s propaganda. It works according to his patterns. If you can’t counter-argue your opponent. Throw a piece of dirt at him .. You’ll go so far ...
                      And all your Poklonskaya fuss is simply explained ..
                      The monarchist party is ready to nominate a deputy of the State Duma from United Russia, Natalia Poklonskaya, as a candidate for the post of head of the Russian state in 2018. About this RIA "Novosti" said the founder of the movement Anton Bakov

                      http://kolokolrussia.ru/novosti/monarhicheskaya-p
                      artiya-zahotela-vdvinut-poklonskuu-v-prezident # hc
                      q = GYGAFvq
                      1. bober1982
                        bober1982 19 September 2017 16: 30
                        +1
                        Quote: Pancir026
                        Sir, you are true

                        He entered the crystal bakers, comrade. Under the duuurochka he began to mow, not under blissful, he was mistaken.
                      2. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 19 September 2017 17: 54
                        0
                        Oh damn! I’m urgently emigrating to Somalia, it will be easier there!
                      3. Pancir026
                        Pancir026 21 September 2017 11: 38
                        +1
                        [quote = bober1982 September 19, 2017 16:30 ↑
                        Quote: Pancir026
                        Sir, you are true
                        I entered the crystal bakers, comrade. Under the duuurochka I began to mow, not under blissful, I made a mistake. [/ Quote]
                        You overdried your bun to utter unsuitability.
                        As far as I understand, you have no arguments. But Goebbels patterns continue to operate in your writings.
                  2. EwgenyZ
                    EwgenyZ 19 September 2017 12: 42
                    +3
                    Quote: Diana Ilyina
                    no real threat to life and health!

                    The issue is debatable, if the Bandera dare not yet know how much blood would be shed. They would, anyway, lose but also “ours” would also suffer ...

                    Quote: Diana Ilyina
                    General Vlasov was the hero of the battle for Moscow, and now what, let's forget about his betrayal ?!

                    No, of course, this is not forgotten.
                    "And forever and ever
                    A coward, a traitor - we always despise
                    The enemy is the enemy, and war is still war "(C)

                    Quote: Diana Ilyina
                    If they were alive, they probably would not have allowed a rag to govern the country, which brought the country to collapse, devastation and three revolutions!

                    Suvorov was a convinced monarchist and believer, and under no circumstances would he go against the authorities. And Dmitry Donskoy himself was a sovereign)))

                    Quote: Diana Ilyina
                    insult also and how!

                    I am sure this is from impotence.
              2. nils
                nils 19 September 2017 14: 02
                +4
                Quote: Diana Ilyina
                Both Suvorov and Donskoy have more to do with 9 of May than Nikolai the Bloody!


                Who are you to talk about the Russian Tsar with such hatred?
                Who are you to distort the facts of Russian history with such hatred?
                I do not exclude your hatred of the Orthodox Faith, according to the laws of which we lived until 1917.
                Poklonskaya is just an excuse for you and the "Teacher" to pour out this mass of shit.
                Alas, in a country where the moral laws of being are violated for the sake of the “Constitutional order” defined by a group of individuals, such as you, it’s easy to find associates.
                In truth, "Without a king in his head - one wise man!"
                1. Diana Ilyina
                  Diana Ilyina 19 September 2017 14: 31
                  +23
                  nils Today, 14:02 ↑
                  Who are you to talk about the Russian Tsar with such hatred?
                  Sorry, you so wanted to show your lack of culture that you posted this post here and sent me a copy in PM ?! Well, if you wanted the public to see it, then please ... I will answer you again!
                  And who are you to ask me such questions, and even with the transition to "you" ?! First, raise your cultural level, and then we will talk. Although you may have to give you a detailed answer, and at the same time teach a lesson in Russian.
                  Who are you to talk about the Russian Tsar with such hatred?
                  The phrase Russian Tsar is written with a small letter, as well as the General Secretary of the CPSU Central Committee!
                  Who are you to distort the facts of Russian history with such hatred?
                  What specific “facts” of Russian history have I distorted, and even with “hatred” ?! Again, your spelling of the word "Russian History" with a capital letter does not at all make you a RUSSIAN PERSON!
                  I do not exclude your hatred of the Orthodox Faith, according to the laws of which we lived until 1917.
                  First, not yours, but yours! Secondly, live according to the Orthodox faith, even according to the Koran, it is your choice and your right! BUT, your right to live according to the Orthodox faith should end where my right begins to live the way I want, without your orders and without the dogmas of your priests!
                  Poklonskaya is just an excuse for you and the "Teacher" to pour out this mass of shit.
                  So you just don’t notice your shit ?! request Wonderful and most importantly, so "Orthodox" with all your "Orthodox love for your neighbor" ... laughing laughing laughing
                  Alas, in a country where the moral laws of being are violated for the sake of the “Constitutional order” defined by a group of individuals, such as you, it’s easy to find associates.
                  I live in a secular state, the main law of which is the Constitution of the Russian Federation! Whether I like it or not, this is a separate issue. But what kind of state do you live in, not in a parallel universe for an hour ?!
                  In truth, "Without a king in his head - one wise man!"
                  So live with the "king in the head", but only in your apartment! You can put him on the goddess and pray at least all day, no one bothers you, but going out into the street and attacking people who do not share your "Orthodox" views is still forbidden to you by the same Constitution of the Russian Federation!

                  P.S. This is not the first time I have been paying attention to the behavior of "true believers" ... laughing fool No atheist attacks his opponent with such fury and hatred as a "truly Orthodox fanatic", this is the most accurate and correct assessment of you and your like "true believers" ... tongue
                  1. My address
                    My address 19 September 2017 15: 20
                    +7
                    Diana! Little darling!
                    hi love hi
                    I ask you to comment on followers of Poklonskaya, as well as other obvious intellectual liberals, to respond no more than a couple of times. You know, usually these are not quite adequate people, often rude and never admitting their mistakes. It is about such well-known S. Mavrodi advertised:
                    Descendants of the noble family of de Biloff, of which there are few, we have many. I sell the All-Russian base of suckers.

                    What do you want from not knowing how to properly argue and even able to offend such as you?
                    1. Diana Ilyina
                      Diana Ilyina 19 September 2017 15: 28
                      +15
                      My address is today, 15:20 ↑
                      Diana!
                      I ask you to respond no more than a couple of times to the comments of the followers of Poklonskaya, as well as of other obvious intelligent liberals.
                      Alexander, hi love Sorry, I wanted to keep silent, but could not resist. It's just that this individual took the fashion to leave his comments not only here, but also send copies to me in PM, apparently to make sure that I read them for sure. In principle, one could not answer, but it was painfully boorish at his comment, had to besiege a little.
                      Haven't seen you in a long time, I'm glad to see you in good health!
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                  2. nils
                    nils 19 September 2017 17: 33
                    +2
                    Quote: Diana Ilyina
                    The phrase Russian Tsar is written with a small letter

                    Pozner: "I think one of the greatest tragedies for Russia is the adoption of Orthodoxy ... I believe that Orthodoxy was a heavy burden for Russia."
                    Chubais: “I re-read all of Dostoevsky, ..... When I see in his books the thoughts that the Russian people are a special, God-chosen people, I want to tear it to pieces.”
                    Narusova (the wife of Sobchak, whom Putin respects): “How are Jews different from Russians? Jews can create a country on a desert site, Russians will make a desert out of everything! "Russians have not only culture, but even their native language:" Is there little left of the Russian language, and was it originally Russian? And Russian culture is also a controversial concept ! "
                    Jurgens I. (Institute for Contemporary Development): "Russians interfere with Russia - the bulk of our compatriots live in the last century and do not want to develop ... Russians are still very archaic. In the Russian mentality, the community is higher than the person ... Most of the (people) are partial dequalification ... The other part is general degradation. "
                    Diana Ilyina. Your right to live according to the Orthodox faith should end where my right begins to live the way I want, without your orders and without the dogmas of your priests!
                    F.M.Dostoevsky: "A Russian man without God is rubbish, not a man."
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                    2. Nitochkin
                      Nitochkin 20 September 2017 03: 53
                      +9
                      F.M.Dostoevsky: "A Russian man without God is rubbish, not a man."

                      And what does the layer between God and man in the form of the Russian Orthodox Church? Moreover, a layer that declares its exclusive rights to God, positioning itself as face control, and not as an assistant and guide to God. Churches turned into trading shops, with their candles no entry!
                    3. populist
                      populist 20 September 2017 10: 09
                      +2
                      nils
                      F.M.Dostoevsky: "A Russian man without God is rubbish, not a man."

                      Well, the man said stupidity No. It happens to everyone. wink
                      1. Nitochkin
                        Nitochkin 20 September 2017 16: 55
                        +3
                        Fedor Mikhailovich said everything for sure. But note, not a word about the Russian Orthodox Church.
                    4. Krabik
                      Krabik 21 September 2017 21: 53
                      0
                      The Russian Orthodox Church and Nicholas 2 have such a relationship to God as Vlasov and Judas.

                      Both traitors and both sold for money.
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                  1. Pancir026
                    Pancir026 19 September 2017 15: 20
                    +8
                    Quote: bober1982
                    under the blissful "mows"

                    Do you have a lack of intelligence and upbringing, only insults have enough skills to clave on the clave what you deigned to print?
                    Can you object to Diana Ilyina?
                    It seems that you can’t, and if so, then insults come into play.
                    1. bober1982
                      bober1982 19 September 2017 16: 28
                      +1
                      Quote: Pancir026
                      what did you deign to print?

                      Also began to mow under blissful,don't tell me my slippersas Diana Ilyina says.
                3. Navig12
                  Navig12 22 September 2017 23: 55
                  0
                  Excuse me, according to which laws did you live until 1917? Where did you live until the age of 17? PS Poklonskaya detective!
            3. vovanpain
              vovanpain 19 September 2017 11: 31
              +17
              Quote: EwgenyZ
              Well, at least, support for the reunification of Crimea, do you think this is not enough?

              You know Colleague, at first I respected her the same for this, the men refused, she shouldered such a burden on a woman’s shoulders, Worthy of respect. yes BUT as always, there is BUT request Who asked to be brought to the Immortal Regiment of Nikolai Namba. request What did Nicholas have to do with the Great Patriotic War what Yes, according to the same Matilda, but let the viewer himself look and figure out what's what, you see the anointed of God with a woman slept fellow Which of us without sin let him throw a stone at me. yes And idiots. You have already begun to burn movie theaters, so we will soon get to the monuments. negative Respectfully to all Colleagues. hi
              Quote: Diana Ilyina
              Let him not do idiotic things and no one will call her an idiot!

              Sun Diana love love love You, as always, are unique and beautiful, a real Amazon in. love love love
              1. Diana Ilyina
                Diana Ilyina 19 September 2017 11: 48
                +19
                vovanpain
                Sun Diana love love love As always, you are unique and beautiful, a real Amazon in. love love love
                Volodya, good day! love love love Glad to see you in good health!
                I'm just for justice! And if Poklonskaya so eagerly grabs to defend the tsar, then in theory she is also eagerly obliged to defend the honor and dignity of the Soviet leaders, who, unlike Nikolai 2/0, made the country many times more! And then it turns out, here we think, we don’t think here, but here we generally wrap the fish! Let it either remove the cross or pull the leggings ...! lol
                For a compliment, a separate merci! It’s always nice from you ...! love love love
              2. EwgenyZ
                EwgenyZ 19 September 2017 11: 50
                +4
                Quote: vovanpain
                BUT as always, there is BUT Who asked her to be brought to the Immortal Regiment of Nicholas namba that. What did Nicholas have to do with the Great Patriotic War

                Yes "cant something" in what? I saw portraits of "Chechens" on our "Immortal Regiment", and also had no relation to the Union. I am sure that next year Nurbagandova, Prokhorenko, Khabibulin and other heroes will be carried. For Poklonskaya Nicholas II is a hero. And His renunciation is a "dark thing" and a big question about voluntariness. As well as the "natural" death of Stalin .....


                Quote: vovanpain
                And idiots. You have already begun to burn movie theaters, so we will soon get to the monuments.

                We will not get, we, after all, are more responsible than in Ukraine ....
                1. vovanpain
                  vovanpain 19 September 2017 12: 17
                  +12
                  Quote: EwgenyZ
                  I saw portraits of "Chechens" on our "Immortal Regiment", and also had no relation to the Union. I am sure that next year Nurbagandov, Prokhorenko, and Khabibulin and other heroes will suffer

                  Many colleagues will understand the portraits of Nurbagandov, Prokhorenko and many other real heroes and would have walked with them myself, but I am not their relative. But Nikolai did something for the country, but tried, I don’t say that he was some kind of dark-arm of the British forces bullshit, but the fact is on the face. how his reign Khodynka began, and he danced in the French embassy request so it ended with the even more terrible Khodynka, and for himself, well, this is lyricism, a speech about Poklonskaya. Well, he is a hero for her, well, so I would hang his portrait in my apartment on the wall and pray for him, her business, but she’s a public man, you have to think in the end then. request I’m thinking what would happen if next to her carrying a portrait of Nikolai would pass for example Zyuganov with a portrait of Lenin. request I don’t want to offend anyone, but this is a circus and only will be.
                  Quote: EwgenyZ
                  we, nevertheless, are more responsible than in Ukraine.

                  May God grant us a Colleague, but they are already appearing. request Regards, Colleague. hi
                  1. EwgenyZ
                    EwgenyZ 19 September 2017 14: 25
                    +2
                    Quote: vovanpain
                    but the fact is on the face. how his reign of Khodynka began, and he danced in the French embassy

                    Well, novice politicians often make mistakes (remember, "she drowned") ... I do not condone Khodynka, but it was not a malicious act (as well as the phrase about Kursk), but stupidity ....

                    Quote: vovanpain
                    I’m thinking what would happen if next to her carrying a portrait of Nikolai would pass for example Zyuganov with a portrait of Lenin

                    And why not, it is necessary to end the civil war.
            4. Pancir026
              Pancir026 19 September 2017 15: 17
              +6
              Quote: EwgenyZ
              Well, at least, support for the reunification of Crimea, do you think this is not enough?
              So support for the reunification of Crimea with Russia. Not an indulgence for stupidity.
              Many supported this. The absolute majority of the people. However, only the merit of Poklonskaya ??
              Quote: EwgenyZ
              Nothing! Also worthy of respect. However, insulting another because He thinks not so, it seems to me somehow "not humanly" ....

              To insult or evaluate the clearly provocative actions of the “having an opinion” of the former prosecutor? What does MAY 9 have to do with Nikolai the second? He and VICTORY are antagonists.
              Quote: EwgenyZ
              And if she came out with a portrait of A.V. Suvorov or Dmitry Donskoy, who had no relation whatsoever to the USSR, would also be a half-mind?

              Imagine yes.
              Only if these historical figures would not have been designed as they were, in the form of the corresponding ORDERS that were awarded to the soldiers of the Red Army.
              It would be absolutely inappropriate, on the day of the Battle of Kulikovo or the Neva Battle, to dress the reenactors in the form of soldiers of the Red Army and try to expose them for those who fought and won those battles.
              It is appropriate, if you feel like it, on February 23rd. To remember and glorify ALL the defenders of Russia, and not to hang something up somewhere, blurring the matter ..
              At the same time, clearly remember that those who are in foreign armies, with foreign weapons, with someone else's help and clearly in the interests of others, do not deserve any remembrance except oblivion and negation. Is the hint clear?
              1. EwgenyZ
                EwgenyZ 19 September 2017 16: 14
                +3
                Quote: Pancir026
                Many supported this. The absolute majority of the people. However, only the merit of Poklonskaya ??

                And who told you that only Poklonskaya has merit? Everyone, just some were “here”, safe, while others “there”, and Poklonskaya among them ...

                Quote: Pancir026
                MAY 9 has up to Nicholas the second? He and VICTORY concepts are antagonists.

                Is Nikolashka also an assessment of actions or, after all, insults? And where did you get the idea that victory and the king are incompatible things?

                Quote: Pancir026
                so you rush, February 23. remember and glorify ALL the defenders of Russia

                Those. Do you offer to go to the Immortal Regiment with portraits of only WWII front-line soldiers? Okay, good. But what about the rear workers and children born during the war? After all, they did not directly participate in hostilities. Although the regiment’s website also has invitations for home front workers ... In general, the Immortal Regiment is already more than a memory of the Great Patriotic War veterans.
                1. Pancir026
                  Pancir026 19 September 2017 16: 39
                  +5
                  Quote: EwgenyZ
                  Is Nikolashka also an assessment of actions or, after all, insults? And where did you get the idea that victory and the king are incompatible things?

                  What does Nikolash have to do with Victory? NO. From the word AT ALL. What is not clear?
                  Quote: EwgenyZ
                  Everyone, just some were “here”, safe, while others “there”, and Poklonskaya among them ...

                  Several tens of thousands ensured the bloodless transition of Crimea from under the control of the crazy, neo-Banderaites, to the side of Russia, in strict accordance with world laws and they do not shout their merits at every corner.
                  Quote: EwgenyZ
                  Those. Do you offer to go to the Immortal Regiment with portraits of only WWII front-line soldiers? Okay, good. But what about the rear workers and children born during the war? After all, they did not directly participate in hostilities.

                  And I wrote somewhere. That the Workers of the war are not worthy of this? You gag for me, for my opinion do not give out.
                  Quote: EwgenyZ
                  In general, the "Immortal Regiment" is already something more than a memory of veterans of the Great Patriotic War.

                  Larger, but not in the part of all kinds of people clinging to the feat of the Soviet people. So more accessible? Do not understand what it is about?
                  Besides, were you distracting about the Matilda film here? Well, from the standpoint of the monarchy of Nikolai, you should be branded as the most worthless, unworthy and unsuccessful representative, if not in the entire history of Russia and the Russian kingdom, then at least over the past five hundred years. Probably only Boris Godunov ruled the table unsuccessfully, although a three-year crop failure fell on his time, so Boris himself might not be to blame. Moreover, he did not abdicate.

                  Show me which of the Russian and Russian monarchs ruled worse than Nicholas II, made more mistakes, lost one war and abandoned another, did not finish, abdicated, did not take care of continuity, created a revolutionary situation with his own hands and left the country in a state of turmoil and crisis power, and even in life?
                  Still want it?
                  How are you and Medinsky with K different from you?
                  The film by British director Armando Iannucci begins with the death of Stalin and talks about the struggle for power in his environment. All events in the tape are shown in satirical terms. The film was screened at a film festival in Canada and was purchased for display in Russia.

                  ttps: //mainews.ru/category/excluzive/news/119789-
                  kreml-ne-opasaetsya-vozmozhnogo-skandala-vokrug-f
                  il-ma-o-staline / full
                  But it would be interesting to buy Medinsky and give permission to rent a film shot in the West, let’s say about the last days of Putin ?! And the struggle of his entourage for power. And how would Peskov comment on it? In the same style or would you be indignant ?!
                  And how long would this sweet couple live after that ?!
                  1. EwgenyZ
                    EwgenyZ 20 September 2017 11: 24
                    +1
                    Quote: Pancir026
                    Several tens of thousands secured the bloodless transition of Crimea

                    Someone is active, someone is passive. Poklonskaya is active.

                    Quote: Pancir026
                    And I wrote somewhere. That the Workers of the war are not worthy of this?

                    Based on your reasoning, that only Those who fought in World War II.



                    Quote: Pancir026
                    In addition, are you here on the movie Matilda distracted?

                    Yes, I do not worry. I am "in half" to this movie. It’s hooked that Poklonskaya is described as “the fiend of hell” because of the tsar, as she already wrote - if she began to defend Lenin’s right to stay in the Mausoleum forever, many who pour mud on Her would petition to reward her with the “Hero Star”.

                    Quote: Pancir026
                    Nicholas must be branded as the most worthless

                    This is your personal opinion, you have every right. Why are you insulting?
                    1. Pancir026
                      Pancir026 21 September 2017 11: 40
                      +3
                      Quote: EwgenyZ
                      This is your personal opinion, you have every right.

                      This opinion is HISTORY. The same as the opinion of Gorbachev and Yeltsin is an insignificant man in power who destroyed the country.
            5. 16112014nk
              16112014nk 19 September 2017 20: 34
              +5
              Quote: EwgenyZ
              Well, at least, support for the reunification of Crimea,

              In Ukraine, the prosecutor Poklonskaya condemned several people who advocated the independence of the Crimea from Ukraine.
              The ordinary man is a weather vane.
            6. long in stock.
              long in stock. 21 September 2017 21: 08
              +2
              yes it’s half-witted. please read the rules of the immortal regiment. Or is it not a decree for her?
          3. yehat
            yehat 19 September 2017 13: 59
            +3
            Poklonskaya is certainly not perfect,
            but she was a serious symbol during the annexation of the Crimean peninsula and took risks personally during these events. I do not support her fuss around Nicholas II, but she also has the right to err. It seems to me that she is dizzy from taking off her career, and the family fell apart and this is temporary.
            1. long in stock.
              long in stock. 21 September 2017 21: 09
              +2
              and what did she risk? probably any of the polite people risked much more ...
          4. Pivasik
            Pivasik 19 September 2017 14: 27
            +4
            I agree. In some acts of the ex-prosecutor of Crimea, symptoms of the “royal bride” are manifested (the story with a portrait at the procession of the Immortal Regiment, a fictional “myrrh-streaming” bust of the last emperor in Simferopol). Of course, there are more questions to experts, not in the field of history. belay
        2. bandabas
          bandabas 19 September 2017 09: 29
          +16
          Well, she definitely will never return to Crimea. What for? To Moscow, to Moscow, to Moscow! A dream come true . It remains to pick up a prick. Well this is just around the corner. And for the country, this chip didn’t do anything, although in Japan it is very respected (whether). Well, there Cheburashka is considered a Pokemon.
        3. Doctor74
          Doctor74 19 September 2017 17: 40
          +1
          Hmm ... WHAT did she do for Russia? !!! request
      2. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 19 September 2017 12: 34
        +3
        Quote: Mar. Tira
        .ROC will be silent

        Duc, she is not silent, but already speaks out against the film in the person of Episcopus Tikhon (in the world George Alexandrovich Shevkunov;), who molded a friend of the gdp.
      3. Alikos
        Alikos 19 September 2017 13: 25
        +3
        Quote: Mar. Tira
        This idiot Poklonskaya is already beginning to enrage. The Russian Orthodox Church will be silent. Because if she opposes this film, she will violate the commandments about sinners. The first person to enter paradise according to the Gospel was a robber. And not a single believer in two millennia of Christianity was offended by the fact that the biographies of saints were published without cuts. On the contrary, the example of conversion from sin has a powerful edifying meaning. For a Christian, blasphemy can only be malicious invention, slander, and slander, but no one will forbid sectarians like the Cerebrozhniks. Https: //lenta.ru/articles/2017/09/18/mat
        /

        Quote: tasha
        The author of the article is still that pretzel. In one article, he managed to kick the power, Poklonskaya and contemporary artists. I forgot the journalists ...
        It’s not clear, did he watch the film? And what scenes of him, for example, a supporter of the holiness of Nicholas 2 could lead to righteous indignation? Or vice versa, to express bewilderment about the hype because of something incomprehensible ....

        It is interesting that the Zionists of all the media clung to Nikolai 2, whom they killed, with innocent children and continue to pour slop on them from all sewer pipes?
    2. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 19 September 2017 06: 52
      +12
      Quote: tasha
      could he, for example, a supporter of the sanctity of Nicholas 2, lead to righteous indignation?

      And he somehow identified himself as a fan of Nicholas II? belay No, he positions himself neutral in this matter. request And the Teacher on one step with Poklonskaya he set correctly.
      If you position yourself on Levadovsky issues, then I consider myself to be the 3rd point and 18%. Those. I consider Nikolai a deserter who left the country at a difficult moment, guilty of everything that happened afterwards. hi
      P.S. By the way, the author in vain added the remaining percentages.
      1. tasha
        tasha 19 September 2017 07: 53
        +5
        Good afternoon.
        The keyword is "for example."
        About the "neutrality" of the author can be understood from the last paragraphs. The government is to blame.
        power, when she insulted post-revolutionary Russia and her memory - it was necessary to think whom she would bring to life with her illiterate outrageous.

        The film is just an excuse.
        1. Diana Ilyina
          Diana Ilyina 19 September 2017 09: 10
          +25
          I agree, Poklonskaya really got her idiotic fanaticism! Ale, gentlemen, deputies, quit this violent insane already, otherwise the matter will end very badly. And this is no longer an assumption, it is already serious. When one part of society is ready with the cry of "die for Holy Russia and the king of the priest" is ready to go to burn in theaters another part of society, which is larger in number, but less embittered, it really starts to smell fried. Doesn't this remind anyone of Odessa and the House of Trade Unions ?! Yes, Nicholas II is not Bandera, but it can become the same irritant for a certain part of society.
          PEOPLE OPEN EYES, EVERYTHING AS A COPYER !!! Only the characters were changed, and in this case, Nikolai can again confirm his nickname - BLOOD ...! And they chose a suitable date, the centenary of the Great October Socialist Revolution, and the time before the presidential election, you can’t imagine any better. While society needs to be consolidated, we are carefully split. It doesn’t matter that the supporters of the king are a minority, but they are active and ready to act. Supporters of Bandera, too, are not the majority in Ukraine, but the strength is in their hands. I do not call for the "whites", "monarchists", "Black Sotins" and other evil spirits to come to their senses, these are traitors and act purposefully, I urge the authorities to come to their senses! What are you doing gentlemen ?! Or have you forgotten what a Russian rebellion is ?! Senseless and merciless?! Do you want that?!
          1. Diana Ilyina
            Diana Ilyina 19 September 2017 09: 20
            +17
            P.S. Only now I remembered. Remember the film "Crimea. Homecoming". There they said about Poklonskaya that she was not afraid of Bandera, who already "protected" the prosecutor’s office, having put on a St. George’s ribbon, went to the prosecutor’s office to write a letter of resignation. Then she, “not afraid” of enemies, headed the Crimean prosecutor’s office, etc.
            And now the question arises, maybe the prosecutor then sent it ?! Maybe there was nobody to be afraid of, maybe there were no threats ?! A sort of his own among strangers, a stranger among his own ?! Maybe all the same, our special services should take a closer look at this person ?!
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 19 September 2017 09: 31
              +6
              Diana, hi! hi love I share your doubts and suspicions according to Poklonskaya.
              1. Diana Ilyina
                Diana Ilyina 19 September 2017 09: 39
                +15
                bouncyhunter Today, 09:31 ↑
                Diana, hi! hi love I share your doubts and suspicions according to Poklonskaya.
                Hello Pasha! hi love Yeah, it hurts smoothly like that. I had not thought about this before, she was the hero of the Crimean spring, but now I have to think about it. Tell me, doesn’t it seem strange to you that the prosecutor goes to a cordon of obvious thugs of Bandera with a St. George’s ribbon on his chest (it's like a bull with a red rag) and they don’t do anything for that ?! Yes there and for much less they burned and shot, but here ...?! The fact that she did not support (as she openly assures) the Maidan could cost her health, if not life, then certainly ... However, she was not even smeared with brilliant green, not to mention the use of more radical methods of persuading those who disagree. What is it like?! In my opinion it does not add up with one another ?!
                1. bouncyhunter
                  bouncyhunter 19 September 2017 09: 46
                  +10
                  When she leaned on the procession of the "Immortal Regiment" with a portrait of Nicholas II, I took it as an undisguised provocation.
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                    1. bouncyhunter
                      bouncyhunter 19 September 2017 10: 20
                      +6
                      Quote: Diana Ilyina
                      You know, for me, the memory of my grandfather and not his one is sacred!

                      I know of course . You are not alone in your feelings.
                      Quote: Diana Ilyina
                      And this ***** didn’t give a damn

                      Here, most of all I was pleased that the number of stars corresponds to the number of letters in the word, which I would like to name Poklonskaya. good I don’t understand why, while still being a prosecutor of Crimea, she received major general shoulder straps with stripes. And now he’s also sitting in the Duma, weaving a web of discord. Not like it! negative
                      1. bober1982
                        bober1982 19 September 2017 10: 31
                        +3
                        Quote: bouncyhunter
                        I don’t understand why, while still being a prosecutor of Crimea, she received major general shoulder straps with stripes

                        Although it’s now well understood why you got your big cardboard star, enjoy it.
                2. Andrey VOV
                  Andrey VOV 19 September 2017 11: 44
                  +5
                  Dear Diana, regarding special services, I think her-Poklonskaya-was enlightened as it should, the thing is different, recently a very experienced psychologist having analyzed all her actions, made one very accurate conclusion - all her actions are aimed at being in the spotlight, but they are not meaningful, but infantile, and acting like that, she hides a bunch of different complexes and a lack of professionalism, wisdom and inability to analyze her actions to the end ... plus of course at that age the Crimean prosecutor ... well, there can’t be a regional prosecutor, who worked as an investigator for such a short period of time, I can’t, I say as a person who gave the investigative work a lot of time .. and really, her actions, if on the right track, would be occupied with abandoned children, old people ... there would show her mercy and other qualities ...
            2. Karabin
              Karabin 19 September 2017 10: 53
              +4
              Quote: Diana Ilyina
              And now the question arises, maybe the prosecutor then sent it ?!

              Relax Diana, Poklonskaya just really loves King Nicky. Her fad is like that. Bzyk. It happens to women. And you are no exception. You have a fad too. You suspect a good half of site visitors to work for the State Department.
              1. AUL
                AUL 19 September 2017 11: 05
                +3
                Relax Diana, Poklonskaya just really loves King Nicky. Her fad is like that. Bzyk. It happens to women. And you are no exception.
                Are you sure that this Diana is really a woman? wassat
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 7 October 2017 23: 25
                  +6
                  Quote: AUL
                  Are you sure that this Diana is really a woman?

                  But I'm sure not. Or a woman, but with a strong phase shift request
            3. XXXIII
              XXXIII 19 September 2017 11: 17
              +4
              Quote: Diana Ilyina
              And now the question arises, maybe the prosecutor then sent it ?!

              Yes, everything is simple, it does not attract the attention of the public, they chose the irritant option and broadcast it more to the Crimea, they probably still believe it. Here in Russia this propaganda has already passed (monuments no longer myrrh lol ) ... Yes, and they don’t get married like hmm ..... probably angry !!! feel
            4. Boris55
              Boris55 19 September 2017 13: 23
              +1
              Quote: Diana Ilyina
              And now the question arises, maybe the prosecutor then sent it ?!

              hi "If the stars are lit, then someone needs it."
            5. BastaKarapuzik And
              BastaKarapuzik And 19 September 2017 20: 41
              0
              And this is a libel.
            6. Curious
              Curious 19 September 2017 23: 10
              +2
              I was specially waiting for this moment when someone would think - was there a boy ?! Where did Bandera come from in Crimea? Pick up the news of 2014, when in January Simferopol a stuffed Bandera was fired.
              But the prosecutor was not mishandled. She is cunning!
          2. EwgenyZ
            EwgenyZ 19 September 2017 09: 42
            +7
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            I agree, Poklonskaya really got her idiotic fanaticism!

            Poklonskaya fulfills the request of the social movement, are you against the fact that the deputies are engaged in their direct duties?

            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            When one part of the society is ready with the cry of "die for Holy Russia and the king the priest" is ready to go to burn in theaters another part of society

            Are you on the example of a pair of insane people ready to judge "one part of society"? By the way, under the slogan “All power to the soviets”, many more vile and disgusting crimes were made, both by clinical idiots and by completely sane people. Do not want to condemn this part of society?


            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            Nikolay can again confirm his nickname - BLOOD ...!

            Well, of course, they couldn’t say such things about Stalin and Lenin, because they really were bloody. And the one who said this would be very greeted, but about Nicholas II it was possible, because He was a man who was not evil, and He failed.
            1. Diana Ilyina
              Diana Ilyina 19 September 2017 10: 02
              +21
              EwgenyZ Today, 09:42 ↑
              Poklonskaya fulfills the request of the social movement, are you against the fact that the deputies are engaged in their direct duties?
              For your information: “On September 18, 2016, she was elected as a deputy of the State Duma of the Russian Federation of the 25th convocation according to the list of the United Russia party. At a meeting of the Supreme and General Council of the United Russia party, held on September 2016, XNUMX, her candidacy was nominated for the post of chairman of the reliability control commission declaration of income of deputies. " What relation does the chairman of the commission on declaring the income of deputies have to the film "Matilda" ?! Tell me, if attacks on Lenin and Stalin annoy me, if I am enraged by all the modern series and films in which the NKVDeshniks are all notorious bastards, Beria is a bloody maniac, and Stalin is a dumb, bloody tyrant, I can write an appeal to MP Poklonskaya and hope that with the same zeal and energy will she defend my interests ?! What, can you really say that Poklonskaya will rush to defend Stalin ?! And if not, then she does not fulfill any of her duties, but carries out a specific request, of specific people!
              Are you on the example of a pair of insane people ready to judge "one part of society"?
              They are no longer a couple, and they pose a real threat. No need to fall into euphoria, in Ukraine it ended badly!
              By the way, under the slogan "All power to the soviets," many more vile and heinous crimes were made
              This is what for example ?! They rebuilt an industry that was not there, raised the country from ruins twice, and in a very short time. The first to go into space! Do you think this is a crime ?!
              Well, of course, they couldn’t say such things about Stalin and Lenin, because they really were bloody.
              Another brain with one brain, or another victim of the exam ?! However, everything is clear with you, you can not answer!
              1. EwgenyZ
                EwgenyZ 19 September 2017 11: 35
                +3
                [quote = Diana Ilyina] However, everything is clear with you, you can not answer! [/ quote]
                I can answer)))

                [quote = Diana Ilyina] was elected as a deputy of the State Duma of the Russian Federation of the VII convocation according to the list of the party "United Russia". At a meeting of the Supreme and General Council of the United Russia party, held on September 25, 2016, her candidacy was nominated for the post of chairman of the commission for monitoring the reliability of the declaration of income of deputies. "[/ Quote]
                From this she ceased to be an elected deputy?

                [quote = Diana Ilyina] What, can you really say that Poklonskaya will rush to defend Stalin ?! [/ quote]
                There is no Poklonskaya, and besides Her in the Duma there are still a lot of worthy people who will be happy to help you. But you are indignant only here, and do not write requests to deputies ....

                [quote = Diana Ilyina] They are far from a couple, and they pose a real threat. [quote] Well, I only heard about the idiots from the "Christian state", but that amazing person who drove the UAZ into the Cosmos.

                [quote = Diana Ilyina] This is what for example?! [/ quote]
                Suppression of popular uprisings, for example: Tambov, collectivization, executions of priests for being priests, feats of the "Countrywoman", killing of children, "raskazachivanie", etc. Yes, you and Sami know this very well.


                [quote = Diana Ilyina] Another brain with one brain, or another victim of the exam?! [/ quote]
                And why did you decide that? Do you, like our "Latvian friends" who consider the Salaspils camp labor, consider the Stalin camps labor? And those who do not think so "with brains on one side."
                1. MrK
                  MrK 19 September 2017 12: 16
                  +7
                  Quote: EwgenyZ
                  Suppression of popular uprisings, for example: Tambov, collectivization, executions of priests for being priests, feats of the "Countrywoman", killing of children, "raskazachivanie", etc. Yes, you and Sami know this very well.


                  The Tambov uprising was not popular, but kulak. A fist is not a reference worker, but a usurer. He gave the poor man five bags of grain in the spring. You’ll give ten in the fall. Do not like it - go starve to death.

                  Not one priest was shot for believing in God. For then it would be necessary to shoot millions 100.

                  Feats Zemlyachki, you say. The main exposer of the crimes of the bloody Soviet system of executions in the Crimea is L. M. Abramenko. He worked for 30 years in the prosecutor's office. And then he fled to Ukraine and began to publish nasty things about his former homeland.
                  The truth-loving Abramenko wrote in his book the names of all those executed from the execution of cases in the Crimea. And that’s what I got for 10 years of searching. So, the figures of those shot for two years: 1921-1922
                  Shots in the cities of Crimea: Dzhankoy - 253, Simferopol - 2066, Kerch - 624, Feodosia - 550, Yalta - 822, Sevastopol - 57, Yevpatoria - 154, Bakhchisaray - 24. TOTAL shot in two years - 4550 and sent to a concentration camp - 148 people.
                  Is it a lot? Remember that the whole White-bandit riffraff gathered by the 1920 in the Crimea. All the leading criminals in Russia.
                  And the answer to the question: how many workers, Red Army soldiers and members of their families outweighed Wrangel and Slashchev. (Executions in Crimea in 1920-21.
                  http://bolshoyforum.com/forum/index.php?page=583)

                  Well, about the tale. Where to put 36 Cossack divisions in the Red Army in 1943 year. And where did they come from. Komunyaks shot all the Cossacks.
                  So we do not need to retell liberal nonsense.
                  1. MrK
                    MrK 19 September 2017 12: 31
                    +8
                    About the unfortunate priests who were shot for believing in our Creator

                    Despite all the current lamentations of the liberals who took under their protection the Black-Hundred Orthodox gang, after the revolution, the Bolsheviks reacted too softly to the reactionaries in robes, for which, as always, the workers had to pay later.

                    In response to such a soft attitude, the priests responded with malice and violence. In Syzran, a crowd pounded by priests broke into the orphanage, where they began to examine the children, do they have crosses, after which she beat to death sixteen children who did not have crosses. "These young serpents need to be brought out of the face of the earth," cried the murderers.
                    In the Raifa desert (in one of the Kazan monasteries) the monks burnt alive seven representatives of the Workers' Council. In Soligalich, priests shot the chairman of the local Council, Viluzgin, and his body was torn to pieces. As a result of pogroms organized by priests, in the winter of 1918-1919, 138 Communists were killed.
                    During the fighting in Moscow, the priests provided the junkers with their temples as firing points, with machine guns located on the bell towers. After the defeat of the junkers, they did not calm down, trying in every possible way to ignite the struggle against the power of the working people. There was not a single White Guard conspiracy, not a single rebellion in which the clergy would not participate. Just as enthusiastically, clergy met the Entente invaders.
                    Even such an inveterate as ataman Semenov, whom even Kolchak considered a bandit, was awarded by the Orthodox Church the title of "Cavalier of the Holy Sepulcher."
                    The stronghold of the putschists was the Yaroslavl monasteries, the bell towers of which again, as in Moscow, became the firing points of the rebels. Churchmen also took part in the activities of counter-revolutionary organizations such as the National and Tactical Centers. Monasteries and churches at that time became a stronghold of all kinds of anti-Soviet bandits.
                    In the Solovetsky Monastery, 8 three-inch guns, 2 machine guns, over 600 rifles and reds were discovered, and a large number of ammunition. In Kiev's Mikhailovsky Monastery, 4 pounds of dynamite, a rifle and 900 cartridges were hidden. Weapons, including machine guns, were buried in the Matreninsky Convent in Ukraine. The leaders of the thousandth gang were found shelter there. Counter-revolutionary organizations were opened in Oransky, Yakovlevsky, Nikolo-Ugreshsky and many other monasteries.
                    1. EwgenyZ
                      EwgenyZ 19 September 2017 14: 00
                      +3
                      All your examples show only one thing: there was a civil war and crimes were on both sides. And to "whitewash" one side by citing examples of crimes of the other is a Samdurak-style policy.

                      By the way
                      Quote: mrark
                      was awarded the title of "Cavalier of the Holy Sepulcher" by the Orthodox Church

                      There is no such order in the Orthodox Church and never was. Someone deceived you wink There is a catalytic spiritual and knightly order "Knightly Order of the Holy Sepulcher of the Lord of Jerusalem", existing since 1099.
                      1. MrK
                        MrK 19 September 2017 18: 58
                        +2
                        Quote: EwgenyZ
                        There is no such order in the Orthodox Church and never was.


                        Read carefully. He was assigned rank.
                      2. MrK
                        MrK 19 September 2017 19: 34
                        +3
                        Quote: EwgenyZ
                        All your examples show only one thing: there was a civil war and crimes were on both sides.


                        Civil war say. Well, when the Great Patriotic War was already going on, the princes of the Church Abroad loudly blessed the "liberating" weapons of Hitler himself! Read this document.

                        Gratitude Address of Metropolitan Anastasia A. Hitler. 12 July 1941
                        “Your Excellency! Honorable Mr. Reich Chancellor!
                        After the granting of the rights of a legal entity to our Holy Church, our thought turns with sincere and heartfelt gratitude, first of all, to you, as the real creator of a new people's state ... In addition to the prayers that are constantly offered to the head of state and your holy army, we have at the end of each Divine Liturgy, the following prayer is also pronounced: "Lord, sanctify those who love the splendor of your house, you glorify them with your divine power."
                        Today we feel especially deeply that you are included in this prayer. Prayers for you will be offered not only within Germany, but also in all Orthodox churches. For it’s not only the German people who commemorate you with passionate love and devotion to the Throne of the Most High: the best people of all nations, who want peace and justice, see you as a leader in the world struggle for peace and truth ...
                        We know from reliable sources that a believing Russian people, moaning under the yoke of slavery and waiting for its deliverer, constantly offers prayers to God that He will save you, guide you and give you his all-powerful help. ... For even these latter find in our Church their sanctification and perpetuation ...
                        May Heavenly Lord send His blessing to the work of your state building, to the creation of your new people's empire. May God strengthen you and your army in the fight against hostile forces that want the death of our people. May He give you, your country, your Government and the army good health, prosperity and all good haste for many years ”[Church Life Magazine. 1941. No. 5].
                        The Synod of Bishops of the Russian Orthodox Church Abroad Metropolitan Anastasius
                        And more.

                        Telegram of the All-Belarusian Church Council to A. Hitler. 1942 year.
                        “The first ever-Belarusian Orthodox Church Council in Minsk on behalf of the Orthodox Belarusians sends you, Mr. Reich Chancellor, heartfelt thanks for the liberation of Belarus from the Jewish-Moscow-Bolshevik godless yoke, for the opportunity to freely organize our religious life in the form of the Holy Belarusian Orthodox Autocephalous Church and wishes a quick victory to your invincible weapon ”[Church Life Magazine. 1942. No. 1].
                        Archbishop Philotheus, Bishop Athanasius, Bishop Stephen.
                        (All three bishops later joined the ROCOR)
                    2. bober1982
                      bober1982 19 September 2017 14: 23
                      +2
                      Quote: mrark
                      Despite all the current lamentations of the liberals who took under their protection the Orthodox-Black-Hundred gang

                      Dear Mr. mrKK, you can only say this with some insanity, well, judge for yourself, carefully read your lines carefully.
                      1. MrK
                        MrK 19 September 2017 19: 06
                        +5
                        Quote: bober1982
                        so to speak only with some insanity

                        Dear Mr. bober1982. Do not judge my health by yourself. Your religious fanaticism is insanity. For faith in God is purely intimate. This is an internal state of mind.
                        But walking along the streets and yelling at everyone around me: “I am a believer”, it’s all the same walking along the street with an unbuttoned fly from which hangs you know what.
                        However, the same applies to atheists.
                  2. EwgenyZ
                    EwgenyZ 19 September 2017 13: 48
                    +3
                    Quote: mrark
                    A fist is not a reference worker, but a usurer.

                    My great-grandfather, from my grandmother, was a "fist" and I know firsthand who they are. In the field from morning to night, he hired laborers, because He himself could not cope with the harvest. All the people passing through the village to the Yarmanka stayed in our house, were laid and drunk, and received a roof over their heads. And then the neighbors, who preferred a glass instead of plow, came to dispossess with the commissar. The farm is "not good news": three horses and two cows, everything was taken away and the barns raked out "partly". In the 30th year the great-grandfather died of “dropsy”, and a year later a great-grandmother ... But I am not offended by the Soviet regime, because without this “event” I would not have existed, I owe life to the commissioners))) This is me, for information, just to know who they “collectivized”.
                    "Comrades! The uprising of the five kulasts volosts should lead to merciless suppression. The interest of the entire revolution requires this, for now the" last decisive battle "with the kulaks has been taken. A sample must be given.
                    1) Hang (certainly hang, so that people see) no less than 100 notorious fists, rich, bloodsuckers.
                    2) Post their names.
                    3) Take away all the bread from them.
                    4) Appoint hostages - according to yesterday's telegram.
                    To make sure that people see, tremble, know, shout for hundreds of miles: they will strangle and strangle the bloodsucker of kulaks.
                    Wire receipt and execution.
                    Your Lenin.
                    Find People Faster "(RCCHIDNEY, 2/1/6/898)

                    Quote: mrark
                    Not one priest was shot for believing in God. For then it would be necessary to shoot millions 100.

                    Where did you find 100 million priests in Russia? Here are a few examples: The priest of the village of Nezamaevskaya, John Prigorovsky. On Holy Saturday of 1918, from the church, where he was and at that time the service was performed by another priest, he was taken out by the Red Army to the church square, where they attacked him with abuse and abuse, beat him, mutilated his face, bloodied and beaten, dragged him out of the village and killed there, forbidding to bury. Gregory Nikolsky, the priest of Mary-Magdalinsky nunnery, Kuban region, for 60 years, enjoyed great love and respect of parishioners and all those around him; a deeply religious person, an exceptionally gifted speaker. On June 27, 1918, after the liturgy, during which the worshipers communicated, he was taken by the Red Army, taken out of the fence and killed by a shot from a revolver in his mouth, which he was forced to open when shouting "We will join you." Them for what? Just?

                    Quote: mrark
                    And the answer to the question: how many workers, Red Army soldiers and members of their families outweighed Wrangel and Slashchev.

                    Well, now we’re not talking about the civil war and the crimes of the White Guards, but about today, “about“ Matilda. ”My example was about the power of the Soviets in response to the example about“ In the Name of the Church. ”By the way, the Bolsheviks appreciated Slashchev’s military talent, and even a special operation was carried out upon His return to his homeland.
                    1. MrK
                      MrK 19 September 2017 19: 21
                      +6
                      Quote: EwgenyZ
                      1) Hang (certainly hang, so that people see) no less than 100 notorious fists, rich, bloodsuckers.

                      I think it’s printed correctly.
                      What a wonderful and wonderful fist your great-grandfather was.
                      A different view of the fists was made by the French professor Dilon E., who had lived in our country for ten years and traveled all over Russia before the revolution. In his memoirs, he writes: “Of all the human monsters that I have ever encountered while traveling (in Russia), can't remember more vicious and disgusting than a fist».
                      And my great-grandfather had five married sons, six horses, five cows and an oil mill. And no one dispossessed him. Moreover, they elected the chairman of the collective farm. Where he gave the creamery, horses and cows. And he was the chairman and one of the most respected people until the 1942 year. Not yet drafted into the army. Missing.
                      So maybe it’s not about the number of horses and cows. And in relation to people living nearby.
                      1. EwgenyZ
                        EwgenyZ 20 September 2017 11: 47
                        +1
                        Quote: mrark
                        I think it’s printed correctly.

                        I knew that you would like it. "Breaking, breaking and tearing to pieces - this is life, this is happiness!"

                        Quote: mrark
                        What a wonderful and wonderful fist your great-grandfather was.

                        My great-grandfather was a peasant, allegedly on whose behalf the Bolsheviks broadcast. And then, when it was no longer necessary who "under the knife", whom in collective farms.

                        Quote: mrark
                        Moreover, they elected the chairman of the collective farm. Where he gave the creamery, horses and cows.

                        He turned out to be the right great-grandfather, understood the “political moment” in time, and settled down comfortably.
              2. sanja.grw
                sanja.grw 19 September 2017 11: 43
                +6
                her candidacy has been nominated for the post of chairman of the commission for monitoring the reliability of the declaration of income of deputies. "What does the chairman of the committee for declaring the income of deputies have to do with the film Matilda ?! Tell me, what if the attacks on Lenin and Stalin annoy me, if all the modern series and films in which the NKV Deshniks are all notorious bastards, Beria is a bloody maniac, and Stalin is a dumb, bloody tyrant, can I write an appeal to MP Poklonskaya and hope that she will with the same zeal and energy defend my interests ?! What, can you really say that Poklonskaya will rush to defend Stalin ?! And if not, then she does not fulfill any of her duties, but carries out a specific request, of specific people!

                Here is one iron argument that put all this tub with Poklonskaya in their places. Let them take up their own business, which she was entrusted with, and not nonsense.
                Well, they made a martyr out of him, someone might feel better about it, for example, I’ve got a bit of trouble. As one character from the um transmission said, “I can also be a martyr, I have a VAZ 2105
                1. Diana Ilyina
                  Diana Ilyina 19 September 2017 12: 05
                  +13
                  Alexander, hi Bravo!
                  Here is this phrase, really an argument good :
                  "I can also be a martyr, I have a VAZ 2105"
                  But as you can see, not everyone here believes that Poklonskaya should be engaged in her direct activities. Something I did not hear a single high-profile corruption scandal revealed by Poklonskaya following the results of inspections of deputy income ...! Or do we have all the deputies white and fluffy and live only on a salary ?! And then where do all sorts of Voronenkovs, Maksakovs and other "not corrupt" "servants of the people" come from ?! The work there is not an edge, these Augean stables should be cleaned and cleaned, but where is it, Poklonskaya not when, she is more concerned with the Teacher and Matilda than the income of the State Duma deputies. And then, for the scandal with “Matilda” she will not have anything, on the contrary, she’ll be publicized, and the Hohenzolern family will also praise and give candy. But for a scandal surrounding some sort of corruption one can get a real bullet in the forehead, well, or a deadline, right? That’s all her exaggerated “courage” ...!
            2. MrK
              MrK 19 September 2017 11: 58
              +6
              Quote: EwgenyZ
              Well, of course, they couldn’t say such things about Stalin and Lenin, because they really were bloody.


              Even according to official tsarist statistics, every year from 6-7 millions of babies born, at least 43% did not live up to a year or until 5-year age. In other words, at least 4,4 million children died every year in the Empire: from hunger, disease, epidemics, poisoning ...
              Consequently, at least 1880 million children died during the 1916-158 years, of which 2 million died during the reign of Nicholas 96,8.
              Where is it already to Lenin and Stalin
              1. EwgenyZ
                EwgenyZ 19 September 2017 14: 05
                +2
                Quote: mrark
                Consequently, at least 1880 million children died during the 1916-158 years, of which 2 million died during the reign of Nicholas 96,8.
                Where is it already to Lenin and Stalin

                And you did not try to compare the dynamics of child mortality from 1990 - 2017. and from 1690-1717. Terrified, in Peter I how many children put.
                When I talked about Lenin and Stalin, I did not mean fertility, but other aspects. Well, you know better)))
          3. kapitan92
            kapitan92 19 September 2017 11: 36
            +8
            Hello Diana I got acquainted with your posts. good Your position on this article and topic is close to me. There is nothing to add. Good luck hi
            1. Diana Ilyina
              Diana Ilyina 19 September 2017 11: 55
              +9
              kapitan92 Today, 11: 36 ↑
              Hello Diana I got acquainted with your posts. good Your position on this article and topic is close to me. There is nothing to add. Good luck hi
              Vyacheslav, and good day to you! hi Thank you for your support and good wishes, and I wish you the same!
          4. yehat
            yehat 22 September 2017 11: 41
            0
            Are you jealous? request laughing
        2. EwgenyZ
          EwgenyZ 19 September 2017 09: 14
          +5
          The author of "well done", distributed "to all sisters by earrings." And he himself is white, such, and fluffy bunny.
    3. DanSabaka
      DanSabaka 19 September 2017 08: 03
      +1
      yeah ... I didn’t watch “Matilda”, but as usual - I strongly disagree !!!!! ... and with whom and with what - it’s not so important ....
      1. AUL
        AUL 19 September 2017 10: 30
        0
        But I didn’t watch Matilda, as well as Admiral, by the way. Now I'll watch both films to find out why people are so boiling. And then I’m not used to singing from someone else’s voice, but I was interested in the hype.
        I am sure that half of the "angrily convicting" films did not watch here!
    4. iouris
      iouris 19 September 2017 14: 00
      +3
      In the end, the article can not be read, and the film - not watch. However, the author gives an assessment of the last emperor - a significant character in Russian history, speaking as a representative of "everyone." The author has no right to this. I remind the author that "the dead do not shame."
      The film is not historical. This is pop music, which Medinsky will promote at film contests. He belongs to the category of "works", in which, in particular, it is alleged that Catherine sold the "fellow countryman Alasochka" to America, or in a perverted form it is popularly told about the relationship of Rasputin with members of the same family, which brutally destroyed.
      The film was shot for the centenary of the murder of the family. It was a planned ritual murder. It is not condemned, the political heirs and beneficiaries not only did not repent, but, it seems, justify the new "actions" in advance.
  2. Same lech
    Same lech 19 September 2017 04: 28
    +17
    To shoot in these conditions any film about a person causing such an attitude is already a problem, because such a film deliberately provokes tensions and divisions in society.


    Yes, this is so ... unfortunately our government indulges this with its reckless actions ... and I begin to feel with my own skin how the tension in the society increases as a result of this ... does it feel Putin and other powers that be ... what I doubt it ... it seems to me that they have created for themselves a virtual picture of what they want and more and more are moving away from the aspirations of ordinary citizens of our immense MOTHERLAND.
    1. 97110
      97110 19 September 2017 11: 10
      +2
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      how, as a result of this, tension is growing in society.

      I do not agree that "as a result of this." This is only an occasion for the manifestation of growing tension among a very significant part of the Russian population, who somehow did not intend to live under real capitalism and now are surprised to realize the sad fact that capitalism is not in the abundance of fake sausages, but in the exploitation of man by man.
    2. EwgenyZ
      EwgenyZ 19 September 2017 12: 52
      +2
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Yes this is so ... unfortunately our government indulges this with its reckless actions ...

      The authorities are busy with more "interesting" things. And here comes a concrete buildup of the situation in the country. That even VO "participates", the second article in two days. As the situation with Matilda calms down, they’ll come up with a new “Lenin’s funeral,” another round of “De-Stalinization,” or something else. About seven years ago, this also happened, then they survived, let's see what will happen now.
  3. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 19 September 2017 04: 58
    +18
    the author are you who you are? Re-read your nonsense?

    "23% of the citizens considered him an innocent victim of" Bolshevik terror. "25% were a bad ruler, although he redeemed everything with his death. 18% were a deserter who left the country at a difficult moment, guilty of everything that happened afterwards. The culprit of bringing Russia to poverty , before the catastrophe, overthrown by the rebellious people - 12%.
    That is, for 23% - he is an innocent victim. For 55% - a criminal who deserves to be executed ... "

    23% - an innocent victim!
    Why are you summing up the rest of the numbers, the mathematician on ..? Do you get 55% - a criminal? But 25% considered him "a bad ruler, but redeemed ...". And in figs you plyusuytes to those who consider him a criminal? You yourself are not in Levada?

    "If you consider Nicholas as a saint ...". You do not need to count anything, the church ranked him as a saint!

    "despised by the soldiers of Victory of the executed emperor ....". Misery, but where did you get this? They did not despise him for sure, especially not executed, but murdered secretly, with family and children! Didn’t you see those who fought in the family? Personally, my grandfather, a participant in the Second World War, told me in those days, including about this, but without contempt and hatred, calling it murder, not execution ...

    Go with your libel to EBNcenter, we really somehow without such scribblers !!!
    1. Yarik
      Yarik 19 September 2017 05: 36
      +17
      the church ranked him as a saint!

      Oh yes, an authoritative institution. With a kiryuha it’s already a piece of shit. This is nonsense for the weak-minded. And as the yapes were pushed along the tower, it didn’t grow further.
      1. bober1982
        bober1982 19 September 2017 08: 18
        +11
        Quote: Yarik
        the church ranked him as a saint!
        Oh yes, an authoritative institution. With a kiryuha it’s already a piece of shit. This is nonsense for the weak-minded. And as the yapes were pushed along the tower, it didn’t grow further.

        Guys, with such comments you only disgrace, remove the sabbath, you’re really crazy. Come on, light it up.
      2. EwgenyZ
        EwgenyZ 19 September 2017 09: 46
        +9
        Quote: Yarik
        With a kiruha it’s already a piece of shit.


        Personally, what did the patriarch and the church do wrong? Why do you insult the patriarch, do you personally know him? Why do you insult people who, unlike you, think differently?
    2. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 19 September 2017 07: 04
      +9
      Quote: Hurricane70
      Why are you summing up the rest of the numbers, the mathematician on ..?

      I agree, the author skipped around here. But otherwise he is right. And the fact that the church recorded the king as a saint is nothing more than a farce. The Church of human hands is a matter of business, not of God. (The current patriarchs will not go to heaven for their deeds! laughing )
      The great martyrs Nicholas 2 is not suitable - he was simply shot. I respect people who consciously go to torment and death for their beliefs (it doesn’t matter, red or white). But the stubborn man who abandoned the country is not worthy of respect. hi
      1. populist
        populist 19 September 2017 08: 47
        +4
        The author is right in this sociological conclusion. hi The main criterion for evaluating the ruler of a state is whether he was the ruler - good or bad. These 25% of respondents rated Nicky as a bad ruler. negative Therefore, their assessment is in a negative field and the author correctly sums it up with other negative assessments.
      2. BAI
        BAI 19 September 2017 08: 52
        +6
        And the fact that the church recorded the king as a saint is nothing more than a farce.

        I have always affirmed, and affirm, that the canonization of Nicholas is a purely political decision. The chairman of the Synodal Commission for Canonization directly stated that death cases are being considered "only until the 70-80s, when the last political prisoners left the camps." Those. for the ROC, the main criterion for holiness is to suffer from Soviet power. Everything else does not bother.
    3. 73bor
      73bor 19 September 2017 07: 04
      +18
      Personally, for me he is not HOLY, and I do not care who whom and for what ranked this face! A statesman who plunged the country into a world carnage and at the same time the commander in chief who threw his army in a difficult situation! In fact, "rag" and "henpecked" paid for all of his Romanov family since the reign of Boris Godunov!
  4. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 19 September 2017 05: 39
    +16
    I don’t know, but for some reason they rush about with this film! They would have looked and forgotten, but no, it’s necessary to scandal the whole country. And these scandals are causing discord in society, and so is not very monolithic. All this is a provocation! Not such a great statesman Nicholas and not such a masterpiece film that would break the society!
    1. Yarik
      Yarik 19 September 2017 05: 50
      +22
      Not so Nicholas the great statesman

      He was NO activist. From the word AT ALL.
    2. 97110
      97110 19 September 2017 11: 24
      +2
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      They would have looked and forgotten

      What about the fees? This ad is so creative. Who is going to watch about an English tank? Which of the living now knew that Kshesinskaya is Matylda? We who lived in the USSR knew that Kshesinskaya was the mistress of the house, from whose balcony Lenin was speaking. And what is it that Nikolai Aleksandrovich naturally assassinated a natural benefactor from a box during this campaign, already Orthodox, dressed in Cossack uniforms, reported. And that she’s a ballerina from Mariinsky, like (damn, I forgot. Well, they wrote that they published pictures with spread legs again). They also learned from the campaign. How people rose culturally! But how not to look now? We have been living in capitalism for a quarter of a century, but we have not realized all this simple fact ...
    3. SERGUS
      SERGUS 19 September 2017 13: 41
      +3
      Not so Nicholas the great statesman

      For me it’s so general Nicholas II = Gorbachev, the result of the reign of both is the collapse of the country with the subsequent social catastrophe, and as a result, one saint, the other receives prizes and medals.
  5. Sartorius
    Sartorius 19 September 2017 05: 57
    +23
    Tired of this hype. The Russian Orthodox Church itself was to blame elevated to the rank of saint, to say the least, of a dubious character. Now he is also discrediting her. One thing is interesting, why gentlemen such as the worshipers dictate to others what is right and what is not? Did the film get a rental certificate? Got. There are no violations of the law. Why should it be banned? Who wants to go, who does not want not to go. It seems that these "standing" ala Omsk, etc. someone is financing. Religious fanaticism per se. Oh, and the cinema calls to burn, something that reminds.
    1. 73bor
      73bor 19 September 2017 07: 58
      +10
      I do not really like conspiracy theories, but knowing how Americans like to finance any provocative activity, the conclusion suggests itself! It’s enough to drive from St. Petersburg to Moscow and see the banners “Forgive us Sovereign”, personally I have nothing to ask for forgiveness from this historical character as well as the French from Louis the sixteenth!
    2. BastaKarapuzik And
      BastaKarapuzik And 19 September 2017 21: 03
      +1
      Under the USSR, there were such paintings that turned out to be on the shelf without ever meeting the audience.
      This film was shot on state money, on the anniversary of the revolution ....
      One question, what is common to this, it is unknown why the told romantic story and actually
      revolution? The answer is one, there is nothing in common. In the film, just a private story.
      The film was shot with taxpayer money and does not meet the goals for which funds were allocated. This is a waste in itself, and also a deliberate provocation.
  6. Nonna
    Nonna 19 September 2017 06: 35
    +5
    The author is hyping. On it and the article is all. And about this anti-historical, Russophobic film on the occasion of the 100th anniversary of the revolution and the cutting of budget money - this is to the Government of the Russian Federation. For what it through its actions brings a split into society, sponsors such a guano, for which it is released. Why is the FSB not checking these figures of the "creative plow", but in fact - the enemies of the people and Russia. Today they drift on the Orthodox, tomorrow on the Communists, the day after tomorrow on veterans and the Great Patriotic War. Putin - it's time to thin out the 5th column in the Kremlin and the White House. The people cease to be silent. And Poklonskaya - well done. A man with strong beliefs. If she weren’t a deputy, she would have been devoured long ago
    1. EwgenyZ
      EwgenyZ 19 September 2017 10: 06
      +3
      Quote: Nonna
      And Poklonskaya - well done. A person with strong beliefs


      Many do not like it, because defends the honor of the Sovereign. They consider her obscurantist, but if she was "chopped off" for leaving Lenin in the mausoleum for another 100 years, they licked her "from head to toe".
  7. Kenxnumx
    Kenxnumx 19 September 2017 07: 27
    +5
    Everything is very simple. There is a state and there are its laws. Different people may have different opinions, but they can express this opinion in legal ways. The rest should be suppressed regardless of the preferences of the authorities. Illegal actions of Orthodox activists of Cossacks or Muslims must be dispersed as well as illegal actions of political groups. Or everyone should miss everything, but then anarchy.
  8. bober1982
    bober1982 19 September 2017 07: 45
    +4
    Similar articles will probably be published daily, but still you need to take a break, otherwise all this will get tired, and the dog squabble will begin, there will be no freshness.
    The article is some kind of messy, here the holiness of the last king, rather illiterate reasoning, and about the power that had a hand in his holiness (?), And in his burial.
    For the author, the commission under the leadership of B. Nemtsov (now deceased) dealt with questions of the burial of the tsar (in the language of the author), the Church opposed it. I speak briefly and restrained, as I can, or according to the author's opinion - extravagantly and like a Black Hundred.
  9. Conductor
    Conductor 19 September 2017 07: 47
    +9
    Indeed, to send to saints a man who is mediocre, conceited, and frankly not clever on the throne. Can remember a soldier in the Russian-Japanese and World War I?
    1. NikolaiN
      NikolaiN 19 September 2017 08: 44
      +8
      To be precise, Nicholas 2 is not ranked as a saint, but as a martyr, martyr. Many do not understand this. He is not a saint, such as Sergius of Radonezh, who confirms this with his whole life. He is a martyr, that is, suffering innocent suffering for his "position" of the monarch. Yes, he was a weak monarch, but this is not a reason for murder. Killing him was not necessary, especially with the children. Among the white generals there were not many monarchists, the same Admiral Kolchak was not one. But the authorities considered that it could become a “banner” for some part of the white movement and destroyed it.
      It’s incorrect to call him a saint, he is just a martyr.
      An example for understanding from our lives: Magomed Nurbogandov, an ordinary guy who lived an ordinary life, but death came and he met her with dignity. He is not a saint, he lived an ordinary life, but he accepted the martyrdom innocently, for his office, he is also a martyr, a martyr.
      1. Knizhnik
        Knizhnik 19 September 2017 11: 17
        +1
        It’s incorrect to call him a saint, he is just a martyr.

        Many people agree with this point of view ... However, it is futile to argue, only insults grow.
  10. Altona
    Altona 19 September 2017 08: 04
    +5
    Somehow, all this hype around the "citizen of the tsar" is already annoying, who himself liquidated the monarchy and himself destroyed the country, drawing it into a fierce war. Mr. Uchitel made a film of almost category XXX for budget money — it’s already mean, in the whole world it is shot with private money and broadcast on paid channels. Ms. Poklonskaya instead of her direct duties is engaged in what inspires Orthodox terrorists who are already engaged in vandalism as Svidomo in / in Ukraine. I proceed from this.
  11. parusnik
    parusnik 19 September 2017 08: 23
    +4
    I’ll just remind you about Kshesinskaya — I met with Tsarevich Nikolai Aleksandrovich, the future Nicholas II, their relationship ended after the engagement of the Tsarevich with Alisa Gessenskaya. Later, she was the mistress of the Grand Dukes Sergei Mikhailovich and Andrei Vladimirovich. In 1921, in an morganatic marriage with Grand Duke Andrei. She walked around her hands, the royal family. She spent money from the treasury, ballet is not the main source of her income. This would be the second film for Teacher .. But she won’t take it off. Nobody will give money ... I met with Nikolai, well, about this film and filmed, well, not entirely truthful when Khodynka was .. Nicholas danced on the occasion of his engagement at the French embassy .. But he did not pray for the murdered ... But this is not in the film .. Just the opposite ... If Master had shot the film without bed scenes, only a high platonic "love" showed .. the film was taken with a bang and it didn’t cause controversy .. the type is holy truth .. And here is the "saint" in bed, and even with a woman how so ..
    1. EwgenyZ
      EwgenyZ 19 September 2017 10: 20
      +3
      Quote: parusnik
      If Master had shot the film without bed scenes, he would only have shown the high platonic "love" .. the film was accepted with a bang and it didn’t cause controversy .. the type is holy truth .. And then the "saint" in bed, and even with a woman how so ..


      Well, because of this, the whole thing is “fuss”, no one already remembers how it all began. There were bed scenes in the trailer, which excited the most impressionable, because no one saw the film. I sent a request to the deputy Poklonskaya, because everyone knows that a convinced monarchist, and “off and on” ... At the last stage, not completely mentally stable individuals joined in, and the opposing side did everything to publicize this process.
    2. CONTROL
      CONTROL 19 September 2017 13: 09
      +2
      Quote: parusnik
      ... If Master had shot the film without bed scenes, he would only have shown the high platonic "love" .. the film was accepted with a bang and it didn’t cause controversy .. the type is holy truth .. And then the "saint" in bed, and even with a woman how so..

      ... and Scorsese removed The Last Temptation of Christ ...
      No better! The same heresy ... But - and became famous for this scandal!
  12. Antianglosax
    Antianglosax 19 September 2017 08: 26
    +8
    A good article, which, again, highlights the wretchedness, incompetence, short-sightedness and shortsightedness of the milestones of these characters who came to power after hunchbacked rubbish.
  13. win9090
    win9090 19 September 2017 08: 28
    +3
    Well, here I agree.
    Stupid, he was for state affairs.
    And the state still has this Orthodox army
    1. EwgenyZ
      EwgenyZ 19 September 2017 10: 23
      +5
      Quote: win9090
      And the state still has this Orthodox army


      The Orthodox army "made" the state on 1/6 of the land. And, suddenly, it became dangerous for this state! That "does not fit together" in your words.
      1. win9090
        win9090 19 September 2017 11: 12
        +2
        And 50 years ago it was the norm to blow up churches ......
        And to believe in science that a person is capable of achieving many things.
        1. EwgenyZ
          EwgenyZ 19 September 2017 11: 57
          +2
          Quote: win9090
          And 50 years ago it was the norm to blow up churches ......

          Do you think this is good?

          Quote: win9090
          And to believe in science that a person is capable of achieving many things.

          Well, and to what trust? Before the civil wars in the Union? Before the Blue Whale on the Internet? To the point that "man to man is a wolf"? ....
          1. win9090
            win9090 19 September 2017 14: 04
            +3
            We’ve gotten to the point that all over the world people think how to make life better, and we build churches at every step, there are no passages from Orthodox fanatics.
            1. EwgenyZ
              EwgenyZ 19 September 2017 15: 41
              +1
              Quote: win9090
              all over the world people think how to make life better

              "All over the world" is this, you, by chance, do not mean the West? Well, yes, "so far they have a better household." But there are big problems with the population, so we have to import migrants.

              Quote: win9090
              and churches are being built at every step, there is no passage from Orthodox fanatics.

              And which of the "Orthodox fanatics" personally crossed the road for you. And what you do not like temples, you, as I understand it, do not go there. Why are you worried?
              1. win9090
                win9090 20 September 2017 08: 23
                +1
                And we have no imported immigrants))

                And they interfere with the fact that the church is climbing into power and directing politics in the direction it needs, a direct foreign agency.
                Temples interfere with me personally every day. They built a temple, took a piece of land for themselves, put up a fence with the inscription reconstruction, but put it in such a way that they blocked the whole lane of the road, and all the terms of reconstruction have passed, and the fence is still there.

                I won’t be surprised if Orthodox terrorists appear soon, although recent events show what has already happened.
                It remains to wait for tithes from the people, the state is already paying.
                1. EwgenyZ
                  EwgenyZ 20 September 2017 11: 54
                  +1
                  Quote: win9090
                  And they interfere with the fact that the church is climbing into power and directing politics in the right direction

                  Which way?

                  Quote: win9090
                  They built a temple, took a piece of land for themselves, put up a fence with the inscription reconstruction, but put it in such a way that they blocked the whole lane of the road, and all the terms of reconstruction have passed, and the fence is still there.

                  And what was there before the temple? Not so much in the middle of the roadway put a church ?!

                  Quote: win9090
                  I won’t be surprised if Orthodox terrorists appear soon,

                  Yeah, so-so, immediately say "Orthodox ISIS".

                  Quote: win9090
                  It remains to wait for tithes from the people, the state is already paying.

                  A little example, about tithe from the state? By the way, you are confusing something: in Orthodoxy there is no established donation rate, everyone pays as much as not sorry, or does not pay at all.
                  1. win9090
                    win9090 20 September 2017 13: 57
                    +2
                    Well, for starters, the church does not pay taxes on its activities, does not pay taxes on commercial activities, seizes land and buildings under the pretext that it belonged to the Russian Orthodox Church
                    .And even on all products they have written a “donation”, in fact this is the price and no one will sell you anything less than the written number.
                    If these are correct, then let them change into Russian Orthodox businessmen.
                    And only the "metropolitan from Orthodoxy" is guarded by the FSO, although by law he is not a civil servant and no one is guarding the heads of other religions.
                    Well, I’m silent about the metropolitan’s love for power and dough, here I think everyone knows that.
  14. SCHWERIN
    SCHWERIN 19 September 2017 08: 43
    +4
    Each ruler is first and foremost a man. In a certain life situation, surrounded by enemy friends, dependent on someone.
    Clinging to Nicholas II. Yes, 99% of people do not know the history of their country and in their judgments use a cliche imposed from outside! There are so many black holes and blockages in our history that the army of historians will not make them out in 100 years. Now interest in history has increased and it is necessary to create the Institute of National Memory in other countries and give an objective assessment of the past. And then we live according to the articles in Ogonyok, and according to the show of Svanidze or Mlechin.
    Let’s then discuss closer personalities. For example, Gobachev with Raisa or Yeltsin with the Family. And then excited things 100 years ago.
  15. forty-eighth
    forty-eighth 19 September 2017 08: 48
    +3
    As one of the most popular bloggers recently wrote, now in the Russian State Library is an exhibition "Moscow, 1917. A View from Vagankovsky Hill". And there are comics about the holy king.
    And I repeat the question that has been tormenting me for a long time: why do not the more pressing and real problems of the modern attitude to the Russian monarchy and empire of the current monarchists make a film that no one saw in their eyes made so much noise?
    1. win9090
      win9090 19 September 2017 11: 16
      +1
      And because the “worldly” affairs are difficult and labor-consuming to solve, and then he said 3 words, he lit up and seems to be a fighter for morality and nothing needs to be done.
      The face of our power of the 21st century. Although populism now rules everywhere.
    2. BAI
      BAI 19 September 2017 14: 15
      +3
      And before the revolution, with respect to the tsar, in general, the problems were:




      and no one wondered if there were bed scenes.
      1. EwgenyZ
        EwgenyZ 19 September 2017 15: 48
        +1
        Well, now many people without special respect relate to the ruler, you "did not discover America." In the internet you can find a bunch of cartoons of Putin, Yeltsin, Brezhnev, Stalin, etc.
  16. Enoch
    Enoch 19 September 2017 09: 01
    0
    Berezovsky also sang a lot of things. You do not understand Russian.
  17. kyznets
    kyznets 19 September 2017 09: 05
    +9
    The Russian Orthodox Church recognized Emperor Nicholas II and His seven holy Royal Royal Old Testament. Together with Them they recognized as saints and many of those who were the last months of life with Them, who did not abandon Them. And from the fact that someone who is absolutely far from the Orthodox faith, not familiar with the issue and history, “expresses his opinion”, the attitude of Orthodox people towards our Orthodox saints will not change. It is a pity that the state funded a film that offends the feelings of a large part of the population - Orthodox Christians. I am not saying that we are the majority. Unfortunately, now the Russian and Orthodox have not been the same for a long time, but we Orthodox have the right not to offend us for state money. Anyway, so that we are not offended for any money. Pounced on Poklonskaya. She expresses not only her personal opinion. She expresses the opinion of most Orthodox Christians by all methods and means available to her. And in her actions, great courage and civic stand, unlike all those who insult and water her with dirt now. Here she is a real deputy - expresses the will of a fairly large part of the citizens of Russia - Orthodox Christians. Not those who bear the cross and come to the church a couple of times a year to light a candle, but those who are Orthodox Christians. And the state, as usual, against us, the Orthodox, gives money, allows it to be shown, and looks from the side, how quite predictably ugly events develop. And again, we are to blame for not keeping silent and trying to uphold our beliefs and defend our feelings.
    1. Engineer
      Engineer 19 September 2017 09: 21
      +12
      The immigrant church of the white movement abroad recognized. But for some reason she never recognizes Paul, Peter 3 did not recognize, Alexander 2 did not recognize. Why, and the fool also understands that it was not interesting or profitable for politically migrants in France. I am Orthodox, but Nikolashka for the Japanese massacre, for 905, for the millions of Orthodox peasants who died at his whim in the First World War, for the Lena execution, for Khodynka, for leading the country to revolutions, and on his shoulders lies part of the responsibility for civil war, etc., etc., etc. never recognize saints. If the church recognizes as a saint a man with his hands to the elbow in the blood of his own people, then this is the business of the church. I never confused faith and church.
      1. bober1982
        bober1982 19 September 2017 09: 44
        +2
        Quote: Engineer
        Immigrant церковь

        Quote: Engineer
        Why, and the fool is clear that this is politically to migrants in France

        Comrade Engineer, you would have pulled your literacy, chickens for laughter because your words.
      2. EwgenyZ
        EwgenyZ 19 September 2017 10: 28
        +4
        Quote: Engineer
        I am Orthodox, but Nikolashka


        Speak Orthodox, but before the Bolshevik propaganda, "slip". You already decide who you are.
        1. Pancir026
          Pancir026 19 September 2017 16: 50
          +2
          Quote: EwgenyZ
          Speak Orthodox, but before the Bolshevik propaganda, "slip". You already decide who you are.

          Correct the phrase, you say that you are Orthodox, and why are you slipping right into Nazi phraseology. Following the canons of Goebbels propaganda? What proves your so-called "Orthodoxy"?
          Something I did not notice, "Orthodoxy" in the actions of those who FORBIDDEN the best Russian director to make a film about the defenders of DONBASS, B, Bortko, https: //www.lipetsk.kp.ru/daily
          /26732.7/3758911/, but they bought an absolutely libelous filmets created in Canada. The shelter of Bandera and England is always Russophobic about Stalin ..
      3. Pushkar
        Pushkar 19 September 2017 16: 00
        +2
        Quote: Engineer
        The immigrant church of the white movement abroad recognized.
        And at ROCOR (overseas) and Vlasov A.A. - Saint. Now the Russian Orthodox Church and the Russian Orthodox Church Abroad are united, and Vlasov A.A. - Saint.
    2. win9090
      win9090 19 September 2017 11: 24
      +2
      We have a secular state, no one bothers you to conduct your rites.
      Therefore, do not say that you are oppressed.
      1. MrK
        MrK 19 September 2017 12: 45
        +6
        Quote: win9090
        Therefore, do not say that you are oppressed.

        I agree. And their feelings cannot be offended (by the way. What is an “insulted” feeling?), And mine can be an atheist. But according to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, we all have equal rights.
    3. BAI
      BAI 19 September 2017 14: 20
      +2
      Do not like the movie - do not watch. Why are you telling me what to watch, what not to watch? And why should opponents of your beliefs not have to uphold their beliefs? For example, I really do not like Leviathan (and not just me). However, this is not the basis for his ban. After the artificially raised hype, he quietly left the screen and no one remembers him.
    4. Kenxnumx
      Kenxnumx 19 September 2017 20: 30
      +1
      I know a good way for you to protect your feelings. Do not look. And do not judge, and you will not be judged.
  18. Engineer
    Engineer 19 September 2017 09: 08
    +7
    Yes, as this fuss around Nikolashka already got! That’s why all the time wand g @ clearly to pick? Do not touch and there will be no stink.
  19. speed force
    speed force 19 September 2017 09: 37
    +3
    From the report of the synodal canonization commission: - The commission noted that in the life of Nicholas II there were two periods of unequal length and spiritual significance - the time of the reign and the time of imprisonment. In the first period (in power), the commission did not find sufficient grounds for canonization, the second period (spiritual and physical suffering) is more important for the Church, and therefore it focused on it.
    Well, there was nothing sacred in his deeds, during the reign, even the opposite: - Metropolitan of Nizhny Novgorod Nikolai (Kutepov): “... when all the bishops signed the canonization act, I marked beside my painting that I was signing everything except the third paragraph. In the third paragraph came the king-father, and I did not sign his canonization. ... he is a traitor. ... he can be said to have authorized the collapse of the country.
    That is, the importance of the time of the reign of Nicholas for the church is negligible and trying to talk about his holiness, at that time - either provocateurs or stupid like traffic jams. However, one does not cancel the other.
  20. gorgo
    gorgo 19 September 2017 09: 43
    +9
    I always, seeing the materials relating to the martyr Nicholas, consider it my holy duty to stand up for him.
    Although this article is written in a very restrained manner, the author’s attitude to this issue is very clear between the lines. I will not convince anyone, dissuade. Just say two words a-propo.
    The murder of the last emperor is not a crime against any laws. If the author uses such terms as "the sentence of the people", then it is obvious that we would need some kind of at least a people's court to pronounce this sentence. And along with the emperor’s hypothetical accusations of “bringing the country” and “mediocre rule” (those crimes, just for the tower), it would be very curious to listen to what articles the “people's judges” would incriminate his wife, daughters and even a personal doctor. They also "finished"? No, my dears, the shooting of the imperial family was not a crime, it was a certain animal act, some kind of literal act of the word (about the elements of ritual murder, I think everyone heard), committed not according to the “people's sentence”, but contrary to the will of the people. This is the time.
    The second one. My friends, Emperor Nicholas was recognized as a sufferer not by the authorities, but by the Church. If you are Her faithful child and lead a church life, it is not clear how you may not understand such platitudes. And if you aren’t, then it’s not clear what you have to do with someone whom the Church recognized as saints and whom she did not recognize. The rank of the sufferer, like the martyr, glorifies people who did not necessarily lead a completely holy life. The Church glorifies them for accepting martyrdom for Christ. Like, for example, the martyr Boniface, who was, in general, a drunkard, but glorified by the Church for refusing to renounce Christ and accepting death at the hands of the Romans. Therefore, the life of Emperor Nicholas is not directly related to his glorification as a martyr. He was glorified not just as a man of Nicholas, but as an all-Russian emperor, meanly and brutally murdered by the enemies of the Russian people and the Church of Christ. If you do not understand these simple things, then you probably should not take up the coverage of issues related to this.
    The third. What is this turnover: "the executed emperor despised by the soldiers of Victory"? This is what a fright you come up with this? Have you personally interviewed all the Victory soldiers? Here are such stuffing "between the lines" .... they also say a lot.
    And the last one. You know, links to Levada Center polls, it seems to me, are generally inappropriate in a serious discussion.
    I have the honor.
    1. Nitochkin
      Nitochkin 19 September 2017 10: 23
      +3
      Was Nicholas II the Emperor at the time of his death? Was not. Disowned.
    2. MrK
      MrK 19 September 2017 12: 48
      +4
      Quote: gorgo
      Like, for example, the martyr Boniface, who was, in general, a drunkard, but glorified by the Church for refusing to renounce Christ and accepting death at the hands of the Romans.

      Interesting. And what did the Bolsheviks demand before the execution of Nikolas, a bloody renunciation of faith in God?
  21. R1H1
    R1H1 19 September 2017 09: 53
    +4
    To shoot in these conditions any film about a person who causes such an attitude is already a problem, because such a film certainly provokes in society tension and split.


    This is why this film was shot.

    Like the dirt that they put in theaters.

    If something happens, then someone needs it, it remains to find someone ........... by surname.
  22. Selevc
    Selevc 19 September 2017 10: 16
    +5
    Nicholas II, the traitor of his own people and his own country ... In 1917, and this is a decisive, crucial year in the course of the 1st World War to stab his own people in the back? How it's called ? This is called treason to the motherland !!!
    This brought terrible misfortunes to Russia and it came out of them much later than the rest of the Entente allies - so the excuses for the goodness and necessity of renunciation are absurd and mean ... The abdication of the tsar is like a twist on the central, turning and momentous event of the 1st World War in tsarist Russia !!! This event has influenced the entire history of the 20th century !!! not like in Russia but all over the world !!!
    How amazing - Russia as an empire was created by the fleet under Peter and he destroyed it under Nicholas 200 years later !!!
  23. seos
    seos 19 September 2017 10: 45
    0
    It is unlikely that society will understand the film about the sexually romantic hobbies of Hitler or Chikotilo.
    Urgent need to patent the idea of ​​the film ...
    1. BAI
      BAI 19 September 2017 14: 26
      +1
      In the West will go to "Hurray." Give just a little bit of texture, the rest - come up with.
  24. sergv
    sergv 19 September 2017 10: 48
    +5
    In history, everything is so distorted and so perverted that one can only be surprised at the credulity of some to the herald of the degenerative system - to the media, which is subordinate to the degenerative world behind the scenes, who had a hand in it. and to the 17 revolution of the year, the Russian genocide and the assassination of Nicholas 2, which was the last obstacle to the destruction of the independence of the Russian Empire from world government.
    Nicholas 2 is a victim of deception and his gullibility, brought up on Orthodox traditions, he abdicated in favor of his brother, because, by inciting his entourage, he was convinced that in this way bloody events and civil war could be avoided, the precursors of which were unrest in St. Petersburg - arranged by the same agents of the world backstage. He was sure that the autocracy would continue, but he was deceived.
    Well, the true face of Nicholas 2 can be seen from this hidden event:

    During the stay of the Sovereign (Nicholas II) in Paris in 1896:
    - French President Felix Faure persuaded his distinguished guest to visit the big ball of the Jew Rothschild for at least a few minutes.
    - The Tsar did not agree for a long time, but then yielded and drove off
    - There the president began to persuade the Sovereign to speak in private with Rothschild; The sovereign agreed ...
    Rothschild immediately asked the Tsar a direct question:
    - “How great is the Russian debt of France?”
    - The sovereign replied: “So many billions.”
    - Rothschild suggested: “I will take all this duty upon myself if you agree to give Jews equal rights in Russia”
    - The Tsar refused, saying: "The Russian people are still dark and very trusting,
    - and with the equal rights of the Jews, the people will immediately fall into their debt bondage "
    Moving away from Rothschild, the Sovereign prophetically said:
    - “Now I have signed myself a death sentence”
    1. Kenxnumx
      Kenxnumx 19 September 2017 12: 20
      +5
      And how did you find out about this hidden event. Share the source of wisdom, but it looks like nonsense.
      1. sergv
        sergv 19 September 2017 13: 01
        0
        Bullshit is the whole movie of Matilda, but you should like it. And google this event, for example, "Nikolai 2 answered Rothschild at the ball" and decide for yourself whether or not to trust this or that source,
        1. Kenxnumx
          Kenxnumx 19 September 2017 20: 37
          +1
          I have not watched Matilda yet. And you obviously three times. And about Nicholas and Rothschild, this is complete nonsense and heresy. No serious edition of this nonsense is not.
          1. sergv
            sergv 21 September 2017 10: 17
            0
            What are you, in no media controlled that there is such information, well then of course)) What do you call "serious publications" are under the serious control of a degenerative backstage, not in the know? And they need to discredit Nicholas 2, to remove from the minds of people the image of the last defender of the Russians.
    2. BAI
      BAI 19 September 2017 14: 29
      +2
      The sovereign replied: “So many billions.”

      But he could save Russia! For these billions, then how much could be built. 2nd Transsiberian - for sure. And there would be no problems with supplying the army to the Russo-Japanese.
      1. sergv
        sergv 19 September 2017 17: 43
        0
        I used to read that about one billion rubles in gold. But this, of course, is also a lot of money, but in Russia there would have been money without this billion. If Nikolay agreed, I think the people would become impoverished so rapidly that the 1913 indicators studied by French economists would never have been so high. According to these studies, Russia was ahead of other countries in the pace of development, and by the middle of the 20 century it was to dominate the world in economic and demographic indicators. Do you think the Fed owners liked this report with their newly privatized bucks? Well, we develop the thought further - the agents of the backstage have earned, 1 is the world, then the revolution ...
  25. Iskander
    Iskander 19 September 2017 10: 51
    +2
    one insulted, the other insulted - and the raspberry-colored jackets that came to power still can’t increase their competence and hire normal specialists to even out the past (very contradictory, not like the others, but this is not only unique, but also an advantage).
    the lack of a clear perception of the world in the present is the main cause of turbidity in the past, the correct, beautifully and logically designed consolidation around the gas pipe is an archipresent thing for raspberry jackets (this is not their business, but they should have the competence to distinguish a specialist from a passenger in this area )
    half-gloom in patriotism is similar to the cognitive dissonance of a thrown dead cat glorification of Nazism ...
    ))))
  26. Karabin
    Karabin 19 September 2017 10: 56
    +2
    The power itself created the “Holy” from the character,

    I agree with this thesis. I will add. What power - so holy it turned out.
    1. Iskander
      Iskander 19 September 2017 11: 07
      0
      ))), and yet this is not a reason to change power into chaos and destroy everything in a row as during the collapse of the USSR, yet the authorities learned a lot from the West.
      but it is expected that a more harmonious system than they need to be done, since the quantitative ratio is on their side, the qualitative one can somehow compensate for it, but it does not seem that the authorities would catch mice, they are encouraged ...)))
      1. Karabin
        Karabin 19 September 2017 11: 18
        +3
        Quote: Iskander
        and yet this is not a reason to change power to chaos

        Power itself changes into chaos. when degenerates. Autocracy degenerated by the 17th. . Politburo to 91. The country received chaos. No Lenin, let alone Navalny, can change power until it collapses, eaten by worms from the inside.
        1. Iskander
          Iskander 19 September 2017 12: 31
          0
          but you then call on the authorities to be sober and awake? or fall into despair and not even try ??? )))
          "action is better than inaction"
          sin to become discouraged - when there are other sins! )))
          What is your personal contribution?
  27. Evgenijus
    Evgenijus 19 September 2017 11: 05
    +3
    From the text of the article:
    ... Was his shooting a crime or he was a well-deserved punishment and carried out by the verdict of the people

    Any deprivation of a person’s life is a crime. Especially without a trial. Especially in the composition of his family. Especially with the concealment of the traces of this crime.
    A silent desire of the author is to doubt this wild crime. Why do you say? So after the anniversary of the bloody revolution! It is necessary to wash your leather jackets from traces of blood ...
    Jesuitism this article, read disgusting, a pity that caught my eye.
  28. Sobol
    Sobol 19 September 2017 11: 12
    +3
    And what is the holiness of Nicholas II? Enlighten.
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  30. Knizhnik
    Knizhnik 19 September 2017 11: 26
    +1
    The worst thing that could have been invented was to drag the country into a debate about whether he was worthy or not. We must say that a significant part of society considers the demonstration of intimate passages about his biography blasphemy, which creates a split in society.
    1. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 19 September 2017 13: 17
      +2
      Quote: Knizhnik
      It must be said that a significant part of society considers the demonstration of intimate passages about his biography blasphemy, which creates a split in society.

      It is interesting how significant it is at the moment, the numbers slipped at the level of something of a few percent, the same Russian quasiberals make up a very small percentage, but the noise from them is higher than the roof. The monarchists apparently decided to compete with them, in particular in particular some invasion of these inadequacies.
      1. CT-55_11-9009
        CT-55_11-9009 19 September 2017 16: 07
        +2
        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
        The monarchists apparently decided to compete with them, in particular in particular some invasion of these inadequacies.

        Well, in VO, monarchists have always been few, but gorlasts. By the way, where is Olgovich? Where is Lieutenant Teterin? I wonder what they think about this?
  31. sergv
    sergv 19 September 2017 11: 43
    +2
    Quote: Monk
    The historical events in the script and trailers of the film “Matilda” are fundamentally distorted, both on the actual and moral level, and practically do not correspond to historical reality in any way. This is described in detail in this certificate.

    Thus, a degenerative backstage takes away from the people from the past all possible guidelines for unification, chaos is needed in the heads and energy dissipation into many false currents, headed locally by the agents of degenerates.
  32. vadhagh
    vadhagh 19 September 2017 11: 46
    +1
    [quote] And if they were alive, maybe there would not have been a Great Patriotic War .... [/ quote] If they were alive, they probably would not have allowed a rag to govern the country, which brought the country to collapse, ruin and three revolutions ! [/ quote]
    I absolutely agree with you. I dare to add that it’s not just a “rag”, but also an alcoholic ...
    1. EwgenyZ
      EwgenyZ 19 September 2017 16: 24
      0
      So you judge based on personal communication with Nicholas II?
  33. gorgo
    gorgo 19 September 2017 12: 23
    +2
    Quote: Nitochkin
    Was Nicholas II the Emperor at the time of his death? Was not. Disowned.

    Stop it. I’m silent about the fact that the fact of renunciation is being questioned by many ... Read his diaries - everywhere betrayal and lies. Everyone grabs abdication and wave this pencil signature. Already this fact alone makes us wonder - did he renounce at all? ...
  34. gorgo
    gorgo 19 September 2017 12: 38
    +4
    [quote = Monax]
    In other words, “Matilda” is not about “but what is it that the young heir was sleeping with a ballerina”, but about the fact that Raska is shit, people are shit, Alexander III is shit, his wife Maria is shit, Nikolai - shit, his wife Alexandra - shit, Monomakh hat - shit, Assumption Cathedral - shit, and Kshesinskaya - also shit. »» [/ Quote]

    Thank you so much for the post! I carefully read it, and I was almost sick of the realization of what an abomination they put out to the public under the guise of historical cinema. This is just disgusting. [quote = Ingvar 72]
  35. gorgo
    gorgo 19 September 2017 12: 42
    +3
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    The church of human hands is a matter of business, not of God.


    Well ... how to talk with a person about higher mathematics, if he immediately declares to you: "2 + 2 is generally the wrong equation"? After that, will you speak with him about mathematics at all?
    If you do not have the slightest understanding of what the Church is, whose hands it is, what holiness is, what the Orthodox monarchy is, then do not speak out on these issues in public so as not to look ridiculous. This is just good advice.
  36. Iskander
    Iskander 19 September 2017 12: 43
    0
    reign in glory ....
    a halo, the legend of the emperor of Japan, who himself was tired of his "divine" origin.
    imperial power - atavism! in the age of interpenetration of cultures, in the information age, the “legend” of royal people (even in simplified conditions of their personal absence) - looks ridiculous, but the film seems to sin with an insulting demeaning of the caste of rulers (even degenerating, the kshatriyas are not capable of many of the vileness that scriptwriters endow with them and directors, for the sake of cheap entertainment).
    so in the film it’s possible that it’s not a “blasphemy against the spirit of the holy spirit”, but just a spit in the history of a great state, low-skilled hacks from art ???
    films about the 22 party congress and milk yield with the battle for defend, gave way to films about zombies ....
    so the topic must be divided, gavnokino and the wizards or the destruction of the god kuzi?
  37. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 19 September 2017 12: 50
    +3
    Quote: Stroporez
    Quote: Mar. Tira
    .ROC will be silent

    Duc, she is not silent, but already speaks out against the film in the person of Episcopus Tikhon (in the world George Alexandrovich Shevkunov;), who molded a friend of the gdp.

    Indefatigable love for the rulers is called heresy of Tsarobozhestvo (Poklonskaya belongs to this sect .. Its roots are quite deep. In ancient Egypt, the pharaohs were living incarnations of the gods, then this tradition safely migrated to antiquity, and then took root in Christianity in the form of recognition of Byzantine emperors “God's chosen.” By the way, the Greek word Christ is translated exactly as the Anointed One, which in turn is a tracing-paper of the Jewish Messiah, that is, the Messiah. to the kingdom. This makes it clear that any stories from the life of the last Russian autocrat depicting him as an ordinary person in the brains of the opponents of the Matilda become a life story of a person deified by birth. And if so, then the battle is not for the memory of a particular person , although later canonized, but for the very “faith”, n but which "the infidels encroached." There are also many quotes from the holy fathers who have commanded to repulse the "blasphemers". Here is the motive with which it is easy to manipulate the crowd, declare “Orthodox jihad” and justify any crimes. Adherents of this view are no longer hooligans, but “martyrs for the faith”, not terrorists, but defenders of “bonds.” So in the year of the sad (well, it depends for whom) anniversary of the Bolshevik revolution (revolution), Russian society passes the most unexpected test: not only for mental health, but also for understanding the basics of Christianity. Let it be at least three times the hero (of the Soviet Union), its former merit to make me follow her lead. Alright, I'm an atheist !!!!!!!!!!
  38. CONTROL
    CONTROL 19 September 2017 12: 56
    +3
    What about the movie? ...
    And the film - the mediocre (not to say worse - mediocre) director A. Uchitel - about love! ...
    There are already so many stupid Russian TV shows on this subject ... here's another one! And most importantly - films that provoke a split in society have been recently made on budget money ... well - isn't that an “order”? At whom such a thought Does NOT arise?
    ---------------------------
    ... Well, the king ... well, the last in the dynasty ... well - doubtfully denied ... Yes, he was "renounced" even before 1905, at least twice! Yes, a bad board; but - as a result of personal (not very bad, by the way!) qualities of character ... well, the "disinterested help" of the national elite and, as they say now, of "foreign partners" ...
    There are signs of "moral aristocratic degeneration," a good man in a bad time is out of place! and canonized by the church - for accepting a violent death with dignity, as an Orthodox Christian, decent person, head of the family and the Russian state - and history, as you know, does not know any mood there - there is no turning back!
    Did the Bolsheviks prove to be executioners? And how did the French prove themselves, chopping off the Bosch to their kings? In this context, not to remember eastern traditions, where any dismemberment - even today - is habitual (or even welcome) .. or, say, the ritual cannibalism of our relatives, our own, condo! - liberals and the acre-artistic-all-creative elite? ...
    --------------------------
    ... The scandal is artificially inflated in an almost empty place, interests on both sides can be traced quite clearly! And yet, yes - just as distinctly! - the lack of a clear position of the official authorities and leaders of the state and - yeah, the Ministry of Culture! or, say, the Ministry of Education ... Let us recall the names of those "cultural" figures of both culture and the art of education, who have allowed and will literally destroy the remnants of culture in society! Forget shdydny, zadornovye, Fursenki, Serebryannikovyh, Viktyuk. .. teachers, all sorts of cereal and bull ...
    At the same time, we will forget the actors, directors, artists, writers and poets that they perished ... (by the way - no one wondered why nobody is interested in poetry today; after all, just some 100-150 years ago, almost any cultural person is easy and simple " kropal poems "... there were few great ones, yes - well, it is always like that ...).
    ... or do we have the orientation of such “art” - towards the “middle class”, which has not grown to the oligarchs “hapka”, but also with the “cattle" who does not want anything in common? ...
    It was impossible to imagine such a conflict in socialist Russia! In Russia, where private property is abolished, there are neither beggars nor wealthy - everyone lives in reasonable material sufficiency, legally declared by the State! that is, in a Russia that does not happen ... where astronomy is not excluded from the school curriculum, Mayakovsky, Fadeev, Polyakov, Bondarev are not thrown out of the school course ... but Pasternak (with the saga about a wandering womanizer -intelligent, foot infantryman ...), Solzhenitsyn (with a frank nonsense of a recorded camp informer ...), Bulgakov (with an indistinct mystic-anti-human novel ... in which the main thing is a simple, uncomplicated anti-Soviet ...) ...
    1. Evgenijus
      Evgenijus 19 September 2017 13: 13
      +1
      ... there are neither the poor nor the rich - all live in reasonable material sufficiency, as declared by the State in law!

      Totally agree with you! Only this definition is about those who lived in the last century in concentration camps in the expanses of Siberia, Kazakhstan, the Far East and more ...
      My dear, you forgot about the inhabitants of the then Kremlin (Politburo, the Central Committee of the CPSU (VKPb)) ... continue the list? What is bad with memory?
      1. CT-55_11-9009
        CT-55_11-9009 19 September 2017 16: 22
        +5
        What warps at the mere thought of Stalin, who had burned out an attempt at a “palace coup” and subsequently the generalissimo of the victorious army? As well as about Beria (for a start it lifted heavy industry, and only then went to rake manure to the NKVD, and even later ensured the operational creation of the atomic bomb), for example? Yes, and about many figures of that time. Why such hate? Since you are similar in spirit to those whom you then “cleaned up” and are afraid that such a fate awaits you too? Well, then I do not envy you.
      2. CT-55_11-9009
        CT-55_11-9009 19 September 2017 16: 35
        +5
        Oh yes, I forgot. Did Stalin have luxury private apartments on top of the Stalinist skyscraper? And the savings of hundreds of thousands of rubles abroad? Villas, yachts? All that he had personal (and left after death) was a tunic, a pipe and boots (yes, their shafts were special, I admit). I don’t have information on the rest of the Kremlin’s inhabitants, so I won’t speak. And one more thing: I know for sure that the party nomenclature (which snickered and whose traditions our present chief leaders continue) developed later: it began to take shape, if I’m not mistaken, under Khrushchev, and it flourished in a riotous color under Brezhnev. Something like this.
  39. kaschey
    kaschey 19 September 2017 13: 15
    +1
    The author of article 5+, of course, on a five-point system.
    Hit the top ten, well done. hi
  40. Brigadier
    Brigadier 19 September 2017 13: 31
    +1
    Quote: Diana Ilyina
    I agree, Poklonskaya really got her idiotic fanaticism!

    Nataha! Heal! Heal before it is too late! Maybe you still have time ...
    You were a cool prosecutor in Crimea, banderlogs howled!
    But the deputy, it seems, is not for you ... Alas ... belay
    1. novel66
      novel66 19 September 2017 15: 00
      +2
      drove Sivka steep slides lol
  41. 82т11
    82т11 19 September 2017 13: 38
    +3
    The author confuses liberals and the state. And so he is 100% right.
    Although it amazes me, how can someone consider Nikolai a saint ?! He is a deserted traitor!
    1. EwgenyZ
      EwgenyZ 19 September 2017 16: 25
      +1
      Quote: 82т11
      deservedly deserved!

      Did children also get what they deserved?
  42. Altona
    Altona 19 September 2017 14: 05
    +4
    Quote: gorgo
    The murder of the last emperor is not a crime against any laws.

    ---------------------------
    You do not distort and do not write propaganda cliches. They killed citizen Romanov, not the king. He was king and left his post, completed his mission as king. You would think that no other citizens were killed at that time. They killed in the same way. Just from the death of the family of the former emperor it is easier to make a show than from the murder of a shoemaker's family, for example. Nicholas 2 is just a historical character, a product of his time. Well, he was not lucky, a terrible era was caught, but after all, everyone got it.
  43. Livonetc
    Livonetc 19 September 2017 14: 09
    +1
    Nikolai 2nd is the "Kremlin dreamer".
    In the era of his reign, ups and downs were enough.
    However, he had neither the mind nor the will to save Russia from falling into a bloody abyss.
    He is not a traitor and not a saint.
    Just a man.
    And for the first person, this is not always enough.
    1. novel66
      novel66 19 September 2017 15: 01
      +5
      always not enough would say
  44. Clone
    Clone 19 September 2017 15: 44
    +2
    Quote: EwgenyZ
    My great-grandfather, from my grandmother, was a "fist" and I know firsthand who they are.

    It was possible not to continue further, since, practically, all the present "monarchists" in the historical zashachnik will surely have a "candle factory", selected by the Bolsheviks from their ancestors.
    I believe that the Soviet regime turned out to be compassionate, the humane to the enemies did not deserve it ... either the monarchists or the Bandera people crawled out of nonexistence ... but the essence is the same - there is strife in society, blood, death and hatred.
    1. EwgenyZ
      EwgenyZ 19 September 2017 16: 32
      +1
      Quote: Clone
      Further it was possible not to continue,

      Well, duck, and you have not read.

      Quote: Clone
      The Soviet regime turned out to be compassionate, the humane to the enemies was not worthy ...

      “Compassionate” Soviet power drove a prosperous family into the grave, and left a ten-year-old child an orphan and sent to “government grub” in an orphanage. Your ancestors were more fortunate, apparently, from the "right" estate were. And my "world-eaters", of course, "do what they need." Your grandmother grew up in love, and mine looked out of the window at moms and children passing by.
  45. CT-55_11-9009
    CT-55_11-9009 19 September 2017 16: 13
    +6
    Quote: Mar. Tira
    So in the year of the sad (well, it depends for whom) anniversary of the Bolshevik coup (revolution)

    In general, I support the opinion, but this quote just kills me on the spot: the October Revolution, then, is being conjugated in every way, but nothing about the bourgeois February Revolution? Normaaaal. That is, it is possible for large capital to overthrow kings and organize revolutions, but does the Bolsheviks mean that it is impossible to overthrow the capitalist shkodla that destroys the country? Enrages such an approach! Mar. Thira, this is not a stone in your garden, just a cry from the soul: tired! ..
  46. Gardamir
    Gardamir 19 September 2017 16: 32
    +1
    I quote
    “Radicalism in any form is disgusting. I believe that she does political PR and does it unworthy. This scandal has already reached the level of Europe. I don’t know what the movie is there, but I know Teacher. This is a good director, and he did not shoot anything indecent. I think this is a PR move to promote a political image. She is like an exalted girl. Handles-legs, like macaroni, such a small one, does not represent anything and does not know how to speak. Apparently, someone still leads her, some PR people. I stand on the side of Master. If you want to pray to God, there is a church for this. And cinemas are completely different, ”said Elena Drapeko.
  47. Doctor74
    Doctor74 19 September 2017 17: 44
    0
    And now the question arises, maybe the prosecutor then sent it ?! Maybe there was nobody to be afraid of, maybe there were no threats ?! A sort of his own among strangers, a stranger among his own ?! Maybe all the same, our special services should take a closer look at this person?! [/ Quote]

    But you very rightly noticed! In all respects - mishandled!
  48. tank66
    tank66 19 September 2017 18: 27
    0
    It’s even funny how cheap khagal kagal distracts the attention of peoples / yes, peoples / continuing to hoax their gesheftiki.
    By the way, There is no evidence that Kolya 2.0 was shot in the basement with an area of ​​8 square meters and then dissolved in 200 liters of acid / in a peat hole / - the Russian Orthodox Church did not officially recognize it.
  49. Msta
    Msta 19 September 2017 18: 41
    0
    Yes, the government did not create anything, although it tried. Nicholas is supposedly a saint only for the descendants of those who together with him brought Russia to three revolutions and a loss in two wars in a row.
  50. Captain Nemo
    Captain Nemo 19 September 2017 18: 57
    0
    The author, and in what Teacher "acted in a mirror, insulting ...". How do you know that? From a trailer or from retolds offended?