Russians will leave Syria at the behest of the "international community"

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Russia in Syria will stop where the United States says. This is a “need” for both Syria and the international community, according to one foreign expert. Discussion of the Syrian theme again escalated after Washington accused Moscow of hitting the Syrian Democratic Forces, an ally of the United States.





An international coalition led by the United States accused Russia of striking the positions of the “Syrian Democratic Forces” (SDF), the channel said "Star".

According to the American side, the blow was struck on the positions of the coalition partners east of the Euphrates River, near the city of Deir ez-Zor.

Recall the neighborhood of Deir-ez-Zor is considered one of the last key strongholds of the Islamic State jihadist grouping (IG, ISIS, prohibited in Russia). The attack on the position of Islamist militants in the Deir ez-Zor area is led simultaneously by the Syrian government forces supported by the Russian Aerospace Forces and the Syrian “oppositionists” supported by the forces of the international coalition led by the United States. Such actions of several armies are inevitably accompanied by conflicts.

Recall also that Russia is in Syria at the invitation of the Syrian government, and American forces are present there "without an invitation." One of the implicit goals of the actions of the American and Allied forces, as it can be assumed, is to counter the forces of Assad and the future dismemberment of Syria. In perspective, Washington does not see B. Assad in power.

It is not the first time when the US accuses Russia of hitting the positions of the "moderate" Syrian opposition. Russia has repeatedly denied all sorts of unproved allegations.

This time, as reported "BBC", The Russian Defense Ministry said it had warned Washington in advance about the operation in the Deir ez-Zor area. According to the representative of the Ministry of Defense, Major-General Igor Konashenkov, the military are delivering “pinpoint strikes only on reconnoitered and confirmed targets in areas controlled by ISIL”.

“How could“ oppositionists ”or“ military advisers of the countries of the international coalition ”be able to penetrate the ISIL battle formations in the eastern part of Deir-ez-Zor, only the representatives of the international coalition can answer,” the general noted.

According to the "Syrian Democratic Forces" ("VTS"), six soldiers were injured by air strikes. Killed no. In the area under attack, there were also members of the multinational coalition forces. They were not injured, according to BBC.

What do the "democratic forces" themselves think? It turns out that their fighters are not at all eager to fight with the government army.

SDS official spokesman Talal Salu said that his troops did not intend to engage in confrontation with the government army in Deir ez-Zor. The “Democrats” who previously held positions in 30 — 40 km north of the city, on the left bank of the Euphrates, launched the 9 attack in September, that is, four days after the Syrian army and its allies approached the city. Government forces that received support from the Russian Aerospace Forces, unblocked the garrison, which had been under siege for more than three years. Mr Salou also stated that the VTS reserved the right to respond to the Syrian army. “If we are attacked, we will respond. This is our legal right, but we are not striving for a clash with the Syrian army, ”he said. Gazeta.ru.

It is known that the subdivisions of the “democrats” are the main local ally of the USA in the Syrian war. It is to these fighters that the Americans supply weapon and provide ground and air support.

Other US opposition groups now do not welcome: the partnership with the “New Syrian Army”, which occupies small territories in the south, has been transferred to a passive regime, and cooperation with other anti-government armed organizations has been curtailed. The reason for the refusal of the partnership was the military weakness of these groups.

As for the “Syrian Democratic Forces”, this group currently controls most of the Syrian territories located on the left bank of the Euphrates. In this area, the Federation of Northern Syria is proclaimed. And only certain areas of the Deir-ez-Zor region remain under the control of militants from IS. It is not surprising, therefore, that there is a tough confrontation over control of the districts: in fact, Syria has already been divided into pieces.

A curious idea was expressed by one foreign military expert regarding the presence of the Russian armed forces in Syria. This person is convinced that Russia, firstly, will not fight with the American coalition, and, secondly, will stop in Syria "where the US will say." No, Russians will not be “ordered”, they will stop and leave Syria.

Features of the Russian-American relations in Syria, commented on the Australian military expert, whose special interests lie in the sphere of foreign policy of the United States.

Sam Roggavin explained in an interview "Free Press"that on the way of the aforementioned democratic forces there is a small settlement of al-Salihiya. Originally it was planned to bypass the area and reach the east coast of the Euphrates south of where the main forces of the IG are located. However, during the bypass, there is a high probability of intersection with the Assad army, which may lead to difficulties for democratic forces, “because Assad soldiers regularly attack them.” As a result, it was decided to seize the settlement.

The military expert also explained that the Kurds in Syria do not need a war with Assad, and therefore they stopped attacking his positions and entered into a truce with the military who control the enclaves in Kurdish territory. After the liberation of al-Salihiyya, the “democrats” will move along the Euphrates to Abu-Kamal. There are several villages east of Dair Alzour on this road, and they can “leave” them to Assad.

As for the march to Abu-Kamal, the expert believes that “nothing is known” so far. It is clear only that “Russia is trying to organize it”. It is the Russians who are trying in every way to “enable” the march to take place. Russians need a “border with Iraq”, and therefore they interfere with the “advancement of democratic forces”.

“In recent days,” the expert explained, “the positions of the Kurds have been attacked several times by Russian and Syrian aircraft. The most dangerous blow was delivered near al-Sinaa. There was also an attack on the area near the US positions. This was stated by their official representative. This is an attempt to stop the advance of the democratic army and their allies. ”

However, Roggavin is convinced that the Russians will not succeed. “But nothing will come of it,” he says. “Russia has no chance of doing what it wants.”

Next, the expert described his vision of the situation. According to him, Russia is fighting in Syria solely because it is “useful for the international community” and “contributes to the victory over terrorism.” However, Moscow, along with Assad, can unleash a war with the Kurds and other members of the democratic forces. Nobody will allow this, the expert notes. The deputy commander of the coalition forces, General Jones, has already warned that the troops of B. Assad will not occupy the areas claimed by the "VTS".

“Russia will not fight with the coalition. Therefore, it will stop where the United States will say. It will not be an order, it is a duty. So need Syria and the international community. And when Russia finishes its mission and ceases to be useful, it will have to leave Syria. ”


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Without further ado, an expert from Australia presented an American artful plan. Russia is in Syria only because it is up to a certain point beneficial to the United States and its allies. As soon as the profit rushes to zero, Washington will say goodbye to Moscow.

At the same time, the military expert shamefully covers the American hegemon behind the curtain of the “international community”, and calls the will of the White House “duty”, and not something like an order.

The hypothesis of the Australian strategist rests on one solid fact: Moscow does not at all strive to be in Syria a "useful" mythical "international community."

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    1. +15
      19 September 2017 04: 42
      Without further ado, an expert from Australia presented an American artful plan. Russia is in Syria only because it is up to a certain point beneficial to the United States and its allies. As soon as the profit rushes to zero, Washington will say goodbye to Moscow.


      The Americans always do this ... they don’t want to risk their lives ... let others do it for them and they will take all the victory laurels for themselves ... it was like that in WWII it was like that in WWII ... it will be like this today.
      1. +15
        19 September 2017 05: 47
        “Russia will not fight with the coalition. Therefore, it will stop where the United States says. It will not be an order; it is a duty.
        I would like to tear my shirt on in a fit of patriotism, but ... we are completely unaware of the "backstage" ... we only know what they let us know, we only hear what they let us hear, and even the "couch troops", further in effect they’re “analyzing” and “expressing expert opinion” of their fantasies ... to the layman, they are equally “poured into our ears” both here and in the West. as the saying goes: "at the feet of the truth there is ... she, somewhere between ..."
      2. +2
        19 September 2017 07: 41
        Quite a reasonable approach by the way.
        1. +2
          20 September 2017 05: 46
          Quote: Ken71
          Quite a reasonable approach by the way.

          Reasonable from the point of view of Americans who are accustomed to fight with the wrong hands and appropriate other people's merits.
          I am even more surprised by the fact that this expert, who, in addition to fighting two kangaroos in the Australian ring, has never seen any war and stopudovo knows this only from computer games and Hollywood “masterpieces”, talks about such things. Is he a serious expert once said such a thing publicly? Should such things be printed in serious publications?
          1. +4
            20 September 2017 21: 59
            Quote: Tartar 174
            Quote: Ken71
            Quite a reasonable approach by the way.

            Reasonable from the point of view of Americans who are accustomed to fight with the wrong hands and appropriate other people's merits.
            I am even more surprised by the fact that this expert, who, in addition to fighting two kangaroos in the Australian ring, has never seen any war and stopudovo knows this only from computer games and Hollywood “masterpieces”, talks about such things. Is he a serious expert once said such a thing publicly? Should such things be printed in serious publications?

            Australia - a great power with great eXperts !!! laughing laughing laughing
      3. +4
        19 September 2017 09: 33
        If Australia has the "international community" of the United States, then who for them then is the DPRK that put it on the device? belay
        In the meantime, by agreement with Iraq, the SAA can chase terrorists in the adjacent territory to a depth of 10 km. And where is the "international community"? bully
      4. +4
        19 September 2017 11: 22
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        The Americans always do this ... they don’t want to risk their lives ... let others do it for them and they will take all the victory laurels for themselves ... it was like that in WWII it was like that in WWII ... it will be like this today.

        They have had an Afghan “Vietnam” for 16 years, and if Russia in the person of the Taliban suddenly sees moderate democratic strength, similar to US actions against the Syrian moderate opposition, then the United States will “defeat” the Taliban for another 20 years. So we also have a "trump card" in that we would share the "laurels of the winner" fairly.
        1. KAV
          +1
          19 September 2017 17: 02
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          They have an Afghan "Vietnam" stretches for 16 years

          If ... They there are by no means engaged in war, but exclusively in agriculture. They control crops and protect the crop, and then safely deliver it all around the world, earning "a pretty penny for retirement." And fuck them from there you will smoke, for it is a very profitable business.
          1. +2
            19 September 2017 20: 50
            Quote: KAV
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            They have an Afghan "Vietnam" stretches for 16 years

            If ... They there are by no means engaged in war, but exclusively in agriculture. They control crops and protect the crop, and then safely deliver it all around the world, earning "a pretty penny for retirement." And fuck them from there you will smoke, for it is a very profitable business.

            Yes, this is understandable, I’m talking about something else .... Ours, if desired, can spoil these "agranomists" not only seasonal harvesting, but also all agricultural machinery to a hair dryer. Using exclusively the same rhetoric and the same methods as mattresses in Syria.
      5. 0
        20 September 2017 23: 19
        Yes, and sometimes even an analogy is observed. When the SAA began to attack actively with the support of the Russian Aerospace Forces, the Kurdish guys and SDS supported by the USA immediately revived. It reminds the opening of the second front, when it was already clear what was going on. True, the situation that is now observed in the SAR is much trickier ...
    2. +5
      19 September 2017 05: 41
      “How“ oppositionists ”or“ military advisers of the countries of the international coalition ”could get into ISIL’s battle formation in the eastern part of Deir ez-Zor, only representatives of the international coalition themselves can answer"
      Yes, and I, well, very interesting! But this is most likely secret information fellow
      According to the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDS), six fighters were injured by an air strike. There are no dead. In the area under attack, there were also members of the multinational coalition forces. They were not injured, reports the BBC
      Well, everyone is alive healthy, it would be because of what noise to raise laughing
      1. Ren
        +10
        19 September 2017 05: 56
        Quote: You Vlad
        Well, everyone is alive healthy, it would be because of what noise to raise

        What kind of “humanitarian” “smart” bombs of our air forces do not kill those who fight ISIS (banned in Russia), they only injure, and they don’t touch the multinational forces of the coalition at all. belay
        1. +2
          19 September 2017 06: 23
          Quote: Ren
          and the coalition’s multinational forces are not touched at all

          And judging by US statements, our bombs only harm civilians! The US there takes care of the opposition as children of their relatives lol
    3. +11
      19 September 2017 05: 43
      the states have been dreaming about this for a long time, sleeping and seeing, but from the very time that Russia was in Syria ... however, Russia is still there .. so the Russians will leave Syria whenever they want !!!
      1. +4
        19 September 2017 11: 36
        Quote: Masya Masya
        Russians will leave Syria when they want !!!

        there is a contract on bases ... so for a long time we are there.
        1. +2
          19 September 2017 12: 39
          Quote: Dead Day
          there is a contract on bases ... so for a long time we are there.

          Treaty with Assad? So it’s not eternal, the next one can be completely different and withdraw the signature on the contract, in general there is nothing eternal under the moon
    4. +7
      19 September 2017 07: 01
      "This person is convinced that Russia, firstly, will not fight the American coalition, and, secondly, it will stop in Syria" wherever the USA says "
      I tried to see in the article hints of a refutation of this statement. I didn’t notice. .... Meanwhile:
      1) NATO at any time can completely "close" the communications of the "Syrian contingent of the Russian Federation."
      2) Not a single force action of the USA, Turkey, Israel in the territory of Syria has received force resistance.
      "RF" is simply doing "dirty work" for the United States and its allies.
      1. +9
        19 September 2017 10: 00
        NATO at any moment can completely "close" the communications of the "Syrian contingent of the Russian Federation"

        get tired of the word "absolutely" .. only if you declare war ....
      2. +9
        19 September 2017 11: 00
        Quote: samarin1969
        Meanwhile:
        1) NATO at any time can completely "close" the communications of the "Syrian contingent of the Russian Federation."
        2) Not a single force action of the USA, Turkey, Israel in the territory of Syria has received force resistance.
        "RF" is simply doing "dirty work" for the United States and its allies.

        1. "Close" communication can not NATO, but Turkey. But Erdogan did not go for it even during the period of exacerbation. Why do you think so? Is it because it will be a violation of the Montreux Convention, and Russia in this case may simply not “notice” the closure of the straits? wink
        And any “closure” of communications by other NATO countries is an attack on our ships and ships carrying out the so-called "Syrian express", that is, it is a violation of international shipping and a war in its purest form. And which of them is ready to unleash this war? Recently, Kim Faberge was cooler than Trump, but do you think that Russia can be scared in this way ?! bully
        2. We will analyze power actions one after another.
        Israel - there is no problem with the word "generally". Yes The leaders of the two countries agreed with each other, the military are in close contact and no misunderstandings arise. Israel does not interfere in any way with the actions of Russia, Russia does not interfere with Israeli military actions in response to the actions of Hezbollah, etc. from the territory of Syria. Russia does not intervene in the war between Syria and Israel (a peace treaty has not yet been concluded, countries are at war). recourse
        Turkey - the only significant force impact is the blatant destruction of our aircraft. I am sure that the answer should have been made immediately and adequately. Putin then waited and settled the situation. Now Turkey, along with Russia and Iran, is a participant in the REAL process for a peaceful settlement. For a year now, there have been no misunderstandings with Turkey.
        It’s more complicated with the Americans. We came to Syria at the invitation of the legitimate government when they were there for a long time, and without invitation. Nobody even thought of organizing a war with the Americans. Russia helps Syria only in the fight against certain terrorist groups - ISIS and al-Qaeda. Along the way, and others very much pushed. Look at Assad's controlled territories now and a couple of years ago - a huge distance! And the United States has been steadily retreating all these two years, accompanying this retreat with constant tantrums and military strikes anywhere. Now spells appear that Russia will do its job and leave itself. All this, of course, can happen if after Assad only American proteges come. But it is very doubtful. Even the Syrian Kurds and even now maintain certain contacts with Russia - they generally have a state of war with Turkey, and the US can not do anything here. There are many groups that also come into contact with our military after the cessation or reduction of funding and other assistance from the monarchies of the gulf, and even from the United States. Everyone understands that the United States only uses these groups for its own purposes, but will not fight for them. And now, without the participation of the United States, but with the mediation of Russia, Turkey and Iran, the process of a peaceful settlement in Astana is ongoing. Interest in him is shown by former or not quite former sponsors of armed groups of opponents of Assad from KSA and other Gulf monarchies. And this is well, well, good reason! fellow
        Yes, Russia is doing the dirty work of destroying terrorists together with Assad’s army. But not for the Americans, but for the people of Syria. hi
        1. 0
          19 September 2017 11: 46
          Quote: andj61
          Turkey - the only significant force impact is the blatant destruction of our aircraft. I am sure that the answer should have been made immediately and adequately.

          With Turkey there was most likely a provocation from the United States through separate Turkish military, not without reason a little later they organized an attempt at a coup.
          Quote: andj61
          Even the Syrian Kurds and even now maintain certain contacts with Russia - they generally have a state of war with Turkey, and the US can not do anything here.

          And why would the US have to do something with the Kurds when they are actually promoting the construction of a Kurdish state?
          1. +2
            19 September 2017 14: 37
            Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
            And why would the US have to do something with the Kurds when they are actually promoting the construction of a Kurdish state?

            Everything is very complicated here. In Syria, Kurds are the Syrian branch of the Kurdish Workers Party, and Turkey is fighting with it. And the US uses it as infantry against ISIS and al-Qaeda. Well, against Assad at the same time. Only the Kurds with Assad do not want to fight, but they need autonomy. It is quite possible to agree here, despite the massive assistance to the Syrian Kurds from the United States.
            In Iraq, the Kurds are in power with the Barzani family, and they are with the PKK on knives = right up to the clashes. And it is precisely the United States that does not really support them, they are clearly on the side of the Iraqi government, which, being Shiite, maintains very close ties with Iran. So it turns out that under Mosul, often the units of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps of Iran fought alongside the US special forces against ISIS.
            And in Iraq, the Kurds headed for the construction of their state - regardless of the desires of anyone. Oddly enough, Turkey in this case does not particularly object, since the Kurds of Barzani even help Turkey in the fight against the PKK detachments.
            The Kurds themselves are extremely fragmented, they have completely different goals, different religions, even the language is not common to all. Among them are Sunnis, Shiites, Yezidis and Christians. The single Kurdish state today is a utopia, but in Iraq they can create such a state.
        2. +3
          19 September 2017 15: 59
          Quote: andj61
          Recently, Kim Faberge was cooler than Trump, but do you think that Russia can be scared in this way ?!

          I wouldn’t compare Kim with ours - he doesn’t have billions in offshore, he doesn’t invest in US debt, therefore he puts it on the Americans with the device
          Quote: andj61
          And the United States has been steadily retreating all these two years, accompanying this retreat with constant tantrums and military strikes anywhere.

          where is the US retreating ?! In the territories occupied by the Kurds, their bases were placed fellow
          Quote: andj61
          And now, without the participation of the United States, but with the mediation of Russia, Turkey and Iran, the process of a peaceful settlement in Astana is ongoing.

          Only the Kurds are not there, and they control the whole of Northern Syria now, it is very likely that they will squeeze out the oil fields.
          1. +2
            19 September 2017 16: 21
            Quote: Stirbjorn
            where is the US retreating ?! In the territories occupied by the Kurds, their bases were placed

            It is retreating. Two years ago, Assad controlled 15% of the territory, at least 35% controlled Isil and al-Qaeda, 50% - all the rest, supported by the USA and the monarchies of the Gulf. Now Assad has almost 60%, ISIS and al-Qaeda less than 15%. , about 35% of militants supported by the United States. And not all of them are for the USA. Among them there are both pro-Turkish forces and former Qatari-Saudi forces, which are not currently financed by these monarchies, but the United States did not take them to the full extent. Naturally, they are ready to negotiate with Assad. Yes, and many US groups are no longer an absolute authority - field commanders are already trying to negotiate with the SAA through the mediation of the Russian military. However, they lost the strategically and politically important region of Aleppo. So the Americans are retreating, retreating. In the same place, in the north, among the territory controlled by the Kurds, there are enclaves under the control of the Syrian army. And they do not live in blockade by any means - with the Kurds in this regard they find mutual understanding perfectly.
            Quote: Stirbjorn
            Only the Kurds are not there, and they control the whole of Northern Syria now, it is very likely that they will squeeze out the oil fields.

            The Kurds are already in full contact with the Russian and Syrian military, and are not very much willing to go beyond their ethnic territory. This is done by the Sunnis, who under pressure from the United States were included in an alliance with the Kurds. And the Kurds say that after the victory over the terrorists they are ready to return to their territory. And they do not seem to need oil fields: occupation by their Kurds is the basis for future military conflicts. Conflicts with neighbors Syrian Kurds are not needed. They understand this very well. And they are very, very strongly hinting at the autonomy they need.
            1. +2
              19 September 2017 16: 32
              Quote: andj61
              Two years ago, Assad controlled 15% of the territory, at least 35% controlled Yigil and al-Qaeda, 50% - all the rest supported by the USA. Now Assad has almost 60%, ISIS and al-Qaeda have less than 15%, about 35 % of militants supported by the United States.
              Where do these numbers come from ?! Assad squeezed out most of the territory from Isil just like Kurds and even pro-Turkish proxies. In green Assad only Aleppo beat off
              Quote: andj61
              And the Kurds say that after the victory over the terrorists they are ready to return to their territory.

              Give a link? Why do you think the Kurds suddenly rushed to Deira ?! to quickly defeat the terrorists - this is ridiculous /
              Quote: andj61
              And they are very, very strongly hinting at the autonomy they need.

              and Assad openly said that he would not give them to her
      3. +3
        19 September 2017 11: 27
        1.Can not without declaration of war. It is impossible for our ships to close the straits for a significant time without declaring war. An air bridge from the Russian Federation through the territory of Iran, Shiite Iraq and Syria can also not be interrupted without war. And this is even if Turkey is not taken into account, which is currently shifting more and more towards the Russian Federation. Another thing is that it is not easy for us to increase supply seriously.
        2. There are national interests. There is a goal. If the actions lead to the achievement of the goal, they will be applied. If they do not lead to it, or vice versa lead in the opposite direction - then no. All these power actions of partners have the goal to prevent us from moving towards our goals, to delay us. If we achieve our goals, this will be the best revenge on the enemy.
        3.In 2015, Syria was on the verge of collapse. In October-November 2015, the Jaish al-Fath would begin the offensive to the sea - in the Alawite areas, and the south front should begin the offensive on Damascus. The United States was preparing to introduce a no-fly zone for Syrian aviation according to the Libyan scenario. By the spring of 2016, Damascus would most likely have been completely taken. And there we appeared. The result of 2 years - Assad remains in power, with which everyone has come to terms. All the main hosts of the warring factions reconciled with the failures of the project and waved a hand at it. The Syrian army, which controlled 15-16 percent of the territory by the time of our entry into the war, already controls more than 50 percent. Opponents are weakening before our eyes, losing their combat effectiveness, fortified areas and key areas. Another couple of months and the CAA control zone will grow by another 10-20 percent. If this is your cunning plan, then this is a very cunning plan. belay
        1. +1
          20 September 2017 00: 19
          Quote: g1v2
          then this is a very tricky plan.

          Duc, it’s they that lure us .... laughing
      4. +4
        20 September 2017 22: 01
        Quote: samarin1969
        1) NATO at any time can completely "close" the communications of the "Syrian contingent of the Russian Federation."

        eat current in your and your dreams !!! lol lol lol
    5. +5
      19 September 2017 07: 02
      The expert, of course, is completely in the illusions. Well, what to take from him - it is a kangaroo - a kangaroo. And the fact that the striped-eared play the Kurodian card, we already know. Well, there are other "players" there ...
      And not only Russia.
    6. +5
      19 September 2017 07: 07
      Russia will not fight with the coalition. Therefore, it will stop where the United States says ..
      - and we’d go away with your sayings ....
      1. +3
        19 September 2017 07: 11
        What do you think will be ??
        1. +6
          19 September 2017 08: 52
          Quote: Stas157
          What do you think will be ??

          It’s already fighting indirectly with the USA! The irregular army of the USA has been hunting for it. And the counter question to you is: do you think the USA will fight with Russia?
          1. +6
            19 September 2017 09: 38
            Quote: You Vlad
            a counter question to you: do you think the United States will fight with Russia?

            And why should they fight, if the Kremlin is always ready to compromise, always prefers to negotiate with partners? All sharp movements, aggressive initiatives come from the United States. And to end everything in peace, and the calls to decide everything (divide Syria, for example!) Together with partners - from Russia.
            1. +4
              19 September 2017 09: 58
              Quote: Stas157
              if the Kremlin is always ready to compromise, always prefers to negotiate with partners?

              Our entire company in Syria goes against the interests of the United States! The United States wanted to make a no-fly zone in Syria - washed, the United States wanted to bring the manual opposition to power - washed, removed Assad, thought, pit us and Turkey, thought, every day the US influence in this region is melting!
              Quote: Stas157
              All sharp movements, aggressive initiatives come from the USA

              Of course, this is quite logical when you are left with your nose and gently squeezed out of the region lol
              1. +5
                19 September 2017 10: 17
                Quote: You Vlad
                Our entire company in Syria goes against the interests of the United States!

                Let's do it differently then. Who is more aggressive Russia or the USA? And who is more accommodating, calls the "other" partners?
                So the aggressive with the accommodating can always agree, and the accommodating with the aggressive not always. Since ours began to fight in Syria, it is only because the United States was brought to this by its irreconcilable position. Okay
              2. 0
                19 September 2017 16: 00
                Quote: You Vlad
                every day the influence of the USA on this region is melting!

                yeah, tell the Kurds
            2. KAV
              +1
              19 September 2017 17: 28
              Quote: Stas157
              And why should they fight, if the Kremlin is always ready to compromise, always prefers to negotiate with partners?

              Would you like the Kremlin to try to make peace? Give you a full-scale war? In the first rows you’ll go under the gun ?! Or will you command from the sofa?
        2. +4
          19 September 2017 09: 06
          Groommen always agree among themselves. And, even if there is, they will decide everything in their pockets behind the back of the people in hindsight. Not the first, and not the last time. To whom is war, and to whom is mother dear?
          1. +1
            19 September 2017 21: 56
            ATOMIC WAR will not be a mother to anyone! but the freemasons go to Telaviv to search! am or to Washington. or 3 Russian letters of your choice.
      2. 0
        19 September 2017 10: 33
        If the Russian Federation will fight with the FSA, then, unfortunately, this war will not go around Ukraine ...... It will be the 3rd world ...
    7. +6
      19 September 2017 07: 21
      But it is. Russia will stop where the United States orders it. And that is a fact. What will begin when the Syrian forces reach the areas occupied by the Kurds and the "democratic opposition" under US control?
      1. 0
        22 September 2017 00: 17
        Quote: Snail N9
        But it is. Russia will stop where the United States orders it. And that is a fact. What will begin when the Syrian forces reach the areas occupied by the Kurds and the "democratic opposition" under US control?

        The Americans will leave Syria, and the Kurds will be removed to the borders of their residence! That's all, but the Americans will not fight with us, they don’t have enough eggs! laughing
    8. +8
      19 September 2017 07: 36
      Judging by the fact that as our bosses grovel and humiliate themselves before the amers, there is some truth in the words of the Papuans.
    9. +3
      19 September 2017 08: 30
      Of course, Russia will stop and leave. Conflict with the USA at our "owners", the gut is thin. But the Americans can spank. So as soon as the financial benefits exceed the possible losses, our "chapters" will be explained that it is time to go home. and the valiant VKS quickly return home, of course with a "final and irrevocable victory"
    10. +2
      19 September 2017 08: 54
      Australian strategist hypothesis

      ... maybe this “strategist" should drop something from the life of a kangaroo? request ... all the same, a native theme ... laughing
    11. BAI
      +2
      19 September 2017 08: 57
      Washington accused Moscow of striking the Syrian Democratic Forces, an ally of the United States.

      Well, Moscow needs to blame Washington for striking the armed forces of the legitimate Syrian government, which are allies of Russia, and then close the issue.
    12. +1
      19 September 2017 09: 08
      I look here gathered some experts)))))))
    13. +2
      19 September 2017 09: 09
      Yes, there are all those who are on the side of the states, you need to "peck" mercilessly and not look at the screams!
    14. +2
      19 September 2017 09: 12
      Some kind of self-confident expert too. Apparently still so confident in the power of the United States.
      1. +1
        19 September 2017 09: 16
        Altona Today, 09:12
        Some kind of expert overconfident too. Apparently still so confident in the power of the United States.

        ... yeah, you read their nonsense, and it seems they have 99,9% of such "experts" there ... laughing
    15. +4
      19 September 2017 09: 16
      I suspect that the "international community" is the NATO countries, led by the United States. Well, we have already politely sent these, but now we must certainly send them not politely, according to the soldiers.
    16. 0
      19 September 2017 10: 20
      The international community is the Americans and the old virgin of Geyropa or what?
    17. 0
      19 September 2017 10: 25
      According to the Agreement between the Russian Federation and the Syrian Arab Republic, signed in Damascus on August 26, 2015, ratified by the State Duma of the Russian Federation on October 7, 2016, approved by the Federation Council on October 12, 2016 and signed by President of Russia Vladimir Putin on October 14, 2016, Federal Law No. 376- Federal Law “On Ratification of the Agreement between the Russian Federation and the Syrian Arab Republic on the deployment of an aviation group of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation on the territory of the Syrian Arab of the Republic ”, the Russian Air Force Aviation Group is deployed in Syria indefinitely
    18. +2
      19 September 2017 10: 30
      What a stupid thing! If the mattresses tell us - "Farewell" and we leave Syria - there will immediately be a rebellion in Russia ..... But does it need the Russian Federation ?! In general, the Australian eksperd, as usual, wants to wishful thinking, and on this wave again lick the “a” thread of the owner’s boot, at least with the tip of his lying tongue ....
      1. 0
        19 September 2017 16: 53
        Revolt? Because of Syria? Piss yourself!
    19. +2
      19 September 2017 10: 33
      Well, dream. I remember they said that the days of Assad are numbered, Russia will be washed with blood and other blah blah blah. The dog barks, the wind wears.
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    21. +1
      19 September 2017 10: 46
      Quote: Stas157
      What do you think will be ??

      And who thinks that the "coalition" will fight with Russia, will the courage of these "democrats" be enough? ...
    22. 0
      19 September 2017 10: 58
      Quote: samarin1969
      1) NATO at any time can completely "close" the communications of the "Syrian contingent of the Russian Federation."

      Hint how ?! Will the Turks be ordered to close the straits? It won’t work out that way! The Turks will definitely not go for it now! The work of the videoconferencing and the "Caliber" is eloquent .....................................
      ...
    23. +4
      19 September 2017 11: 11
      ... "According to the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDS), six fighters were injured from the airstrike. There were no casualties. In the area under attack, there were also members of the multinational coalition forces. They were not injured, reports BBC si "".

      There are no dead. A scream to the whole universe. Apparently, they didn’t give much ...
    24. +1
      19 September 2017 11: 41
      In principle, the logic is visible, Russia has real strengths, and not just in words, there is no butt
      1. 0
        19 September 2017 11: 53
        what forces are not? Russia clearly in the person of Lavrov sent the United States to a distant fog from Syria and this is not a hint.
        1. +1
          19 September 2017 11: 55
          And the United States in response put on the "fog" Lavrov
          1. +3
            19 September 2017 12: 11
            tell how? agreeing with de-escalation zones or not admitting to the east bank of the Euphrates? or the device of the navy base in israel, which was never rejoiced there? or reform of the UN, which the Soviet Union called for reform in 1965? Or a ban on oil supplies to the DPRK? the west suffocated and doesn’t know what it wants now, because Brix and SCO confuse cards and so far successfully.
    25. +2
      19 September 2017 12: 11
      No, they will not “order” the Russians, they themselves will stop and leave Syria.

      That is, the presence of bases in Tartus and Khmeimim is not an argument at all that the Russians will NEVER leave Syria and the Middle East at all? fool
      1. +1
        19 September 2017 16: 05
        Assad is not eternal
        1. +3
          19 September 2017 16: 06
          Quote: Stirbjorn
          Assad is not eternal

          But Assad is not an argument. From the word at all.
          1. +1
            19 September 2017 16: 09
            Ok, here's an argument
            Russia and Syria have concluded an agreement on the use by the Russian air group of the Khmeimim base indefinitely and free of charge ..... If one of the parties decides to terminate the agreement, then it is simply necessary to notify the partner in writing. And within a year from the date of receipt of this notification, the contract will cease to work.
    26. +1
      19 September 2017 12: 44
      We are betting gentlemen - whether the Syrian troops, PMC "Wagner" or the Russian troops will transfer the Euphrates River, and if so what will they be for it, if not, then this antipode from the article will be right.
      1. 0
        19 September 2017 15: 43
        late, sar already on the east coast, and the Kurds do not want to fight with them seeing how to give ig vks rf.
        1. +2
          20 September 2017 07: 15
          Quote: Lance
          late, sar already on the east coast, and the Kurds do not want to fight them

          They tried to capture an illusion, sir, an island on the river, but it didn’t work out
          1. 0
            20 September 2017 18: 35
            on 21,0917g 60km2 of the left bank?
            1. 0
              22 September 2017 17: 36
              what data on 21092017?
              on September 20.09.2017, XNUMX, the Kurds are yellow, red is the hodgepodge of the Assad forces, PMCs and contract soldiers of the RF Armed Forces
    27. 0
      19 September 2017 12: 58
      Gives out his Wishlist for analysis
    28. +1
      19 September 2017 15: 15
      Quote: Dead Day
      Quote: Masya Masya
      Russians will leave Syria when they want !!!

      there is a contract on bases ... so for a long time we are there.

      This is what the "international community" just doesn’t like
    29. +2
      19 September 2017 15: 27
      Quote: sa-ag
      We are betting gentlemen - whether the Syrian troops, PMC "Wagner" or the Russian troops will transfer the Euphrates River, and if so what will they be for it, if not, then this antipode from the article will be right.

      The Russian forces of Efrat will not move (they are not there), and government forces, with the support of the VKS, will advance as much as possible. SDF does not have the Physical ability to “butt” with the VKS (otherwise you can scoop it up well), and you personally will not go to war with Russia.
      I put it on
      1. 0
        19 September 2017 16: 06
        Quote: Monarchist
        SDF does not have the Physical ability to “butt” with the VKS (otherwise you can scoop it up well), and you personally will not go to war with Russia.

        SDF does not, but coalition aviation does!
      2. 0
        20 September 2017 07: 18
        Quote: Monarchist
        Efrat Russian troops will not cross (they are not there)

        Indeed?
    30. 0
      19 September 2017 16: 23
      And what will happen if Russia tells the USA to stop! Time to go home is enough for you to kill peaceful people?
    31. +2
      19 September 2017 18: 45
      Australia has always been rich in the geniuses of military analytics, and in general this country has a rich military and not only history, it is a sin not to listen to Russian analysts from Kashchenko and Serbsky, even if in absentia.
    32. 0
      19 September 2017 23: 06
      Sneaky and stupid (on a historical scale) West.
    33. 0
      19 September 2017 23: 14
      A stupid or frank American lackey ... Or maybe, indeed, such allies cannot imagine themselves without the United States. Okay, wait and see
    34. +1
      19 September 2017 23: 46
      ISIS has killed 3 Russian forces in DeirEzzor Province.
      http://waronline.org/fora/index.php?threads/%D0%A
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      BE%D0%BD%D1%84%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D1%82-%D0%B2-%D0
      %A1%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B8.15728/page-1513#post-
      2090136

      it is dumb to see how former citizens are discussing in this tone of death the former compatriots or even classmates.
      3 bodies captured. And there are probably more suffocated Wagnerites.


      Americans helped Assad an order of magnitude more than Russia. The space operation in Syria has achieved only one thing: if earlier it was possible to merge Assad in a quiet and without losing face, then now this suitcase without a handle Russia will have to drag on a hump to the death of Pu.
      1. 0
        19 September 2017 23: 53
        Quote: 32363
        it is dumb to see how former citizens are discussing in this tone of death the former compatriots or even classmates.


        Well, that's what they are.
        You won’t be nice to everyone.
      2. 0
        20 September 2017 15: 23
        And it’s not the former, this is a new generation of mankurtis slightly less than completely, such people ran through the forests after the Second World War - they called Bandera. They saw a cross and consider them Wagnerians, that is, Russian (these are Syrian Christians)
        And the second fascist Zionist - these generally hate everyone and only crave to kill.
        1. +1
          20 September 2017 17: 45
          Quote: Lightest
          And it’s not the former, this is a new generation of mankurtis slightly less than completely, such people ran through the forests after the Second World War - they called Bandera. They saw a cross and consider them Wagnerians, that is, Russian (these are Syrian Christians)
          And the second fascist Zionist - these generally hate everyone and only crave to kill.

          But can you read more about the Wagnerites and the tokens on the bodies of the fighters, are they Russian?
    35. 0
      20 September 2017 07: 28
      Since when is the US Six the world community, a sense of personal greatness or something combed?
    36. 0
      20 September 2017 09: 14
      Gentlemen from the "international community" apparently do not know that "Russia cannot be understood by the mind" and IT can respond to any of their tricks with unpredictable "stupidity"! By the way, Bismarck warned about this! And do not wishful thinking.
    37. 0
      20 September 2017 14: 16
      Dreaming is not bad ... laughing
    38. Boris Ioselevich_2
      0
      20 September 2017 19: 21
      I am not an expert, and my opinion is. nothing more and nothing less than the opinion of a peaceful layman who hears outside the window explosions of bombs and howling rockets. And therefore there is no other way to get distracted, how to turn into a commentator. So, I think that it should be taken as an axiom that everyone is fighting according to his own rules, and blaming the enemy for this is a waste of time. Let's remember when it all started, the calculation was only a few months, which, both in Vietnam and Afghanistan, insensibly turned into several years, with no end in sight. It was a miscalculation, which will have to be corrected on the battlefield, which is not desirable, but necessary. And it is possible that the States indeed gave Russia the opportunity to get involved and get carried away. If this is so, they will not be denied cunning, all the more so since they should have foreseen such an opportunity. But, oddly enough, this is their mistake, it is possible a tragic one. And, most sadly, Trump most likely did not want this. But Congress - this brain monster, having seized part of its powers, turned Russia into the main subject, I will not say its purpose, but simply completely unjustified hatred. And the more Russia made friendly gestures, the more they became hardened. And it turned out to be a paradoxical, murderous for both sides, situation. Russia is in "friendship and alliance" with its potential enemy Iran, while the States are flirting with China, which, according to the principle of Chairman Mao, "sits on a high mountain, watching tigers fighting below." In a tote, I could win millions by predicting the consequences.
      1. 0
        21 September 2017 17: 14
        There is no limit to naivety. only in the past five years have the United States only been doing ... that everything is ashes with them or are the Russians correctly pulling strings?
    39. 0
      21 September 2017 16: 33
      what other democratic apposition during the war is the enemy and it must be destroyed
    40. 0
      22 September 2017 11: 56
      "... Russia, firstly, will not fight the American coalition, and secondly, it will stop in Syria" wherever the USA says ... ", - you won’t wait! Russia is not a slave or vassal of the United States!
    41. 0
      24 September 2017 20: 57
      Quote: sa-ag
      Betting gentlemen

      You’ll be betting in Los Angeles!

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