Grymchak told how and when the Russian Federation will leave the Donbass

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Donetsk region will return to Ukraine in 2018 year after the withdrawal of alleged Russian troops there, according to Deputy Minister for Temporarily Occupied Territories and Internally Displaced Persons Yuri Grymchak.

He made the corresponding statement with reference to the information he has, reports Radio Liberty.



Grymchak told how and when the Russian Federation will leave the Donbass


I think Donetsk region will return to Ukraine in one form or another next year. And most likely with the participation of peacekeepers. There will be a temporary administration, there will be disarmament of the militants, Russian troops will come out and mercenaries will come out
- he said.

According to him, Russia will stop funding the “humanitarian projects” of the terrorists “LPR” and “DPR” in September 2018. The official explained that the withdrawal of Russian troops from the territory of Donbass will begin after the UN peacekeepers have entered the entire territory of the LDNR.

Earlier, Grymchak said that Russia allegedly began withdrawing (???) Russian weapons from the territory of Donbass. Prior to that, he also said that the LDNR were allegedly ready to seize the Rostov region of Russia.

We remind you that the presidential press secretary Dmitry Peskov denied some information, including Ukrainian media, who wrote about the termination of financing of Donbass.

Speech that Russia refused humanitarian aid to residents of Donbass, can not go. Not talking (speech), and will not go. For humanitarian reasons, Russia will continue to take care of the people who were actually rejected as a result of the civil war in their own country.
- declared Sands
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  1. +23
    16 September 2017 20: 50
    Donetsk region will return to Ukraine in 2018 year after the withdrawal of alleged Russian troops there, according to Deputy Minister for Temporarily Occupied Territories and Internally Displaced Persons Yuri Grymchak.

    Grymchak, you have to have a bite! And it’s better not to drink at all, if you don’t control your delirium after the first glass of a syvodor.
    1. +6
      16 September 2017 20: 55
      Or drink less, but in general, these Mrischiki at least a little - would have imagined reality.
      1. +5
        16 September 2017 21: 03
        What is the reality after a glass of sivuha? laughing
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          1. +6
            17 September 2017 05: 18
            Donetsk region will return to Ukraine in 2018 year after the withdrawal of alleged Russian troops there, according to Deputy Minister for Temporarily Occupied Territories and Internally Displaced Persons Yuri Grymchak.
            He made a corresponding statement with reference to the information available to him, reports "Radio Liberty."
            We have no reason to trust not only representatives of the junting authorities in Kiev, but also Radio Liberty itself.

            The espionage activities of Radio Free Europe (PCE) and Radio Liberty (PC) are now well known. 85 percent of their budget comes from the CIA, which controls them and has numerous paid agents in them. The CIA took a subscription from the employees of these radio stations: “The undersigned has been informed that the Radio Liberty has been created by the CIA and operates at its expense. For the disclosure of this data, the perpetrators will be fined up to 10 thousand dollars and imprisonment for up to 10 years. ”
            Now the US Congress is openly releasing funds for these radio stations from the state budget.
            The employees of the radio stations, to strengthen their confidential influence on the listeners, are mainly immigrants from Eastern Europe. They work under the direction and control of responsible Americans.
            Earlier in the official instructions, Radio Liberty set these goals:
            - sow enmity between the peoples of the Soviet Union and the peoples of other socialist countries;
            - undermine confidence in the USSR, portraying the Soviet state as a "neo-imperialist" power;
            - spread misinformation, incite nationalist feelings.
            Now the USSR is no longer there, but the former goals in the historically adjusted form of Radio Liberty remained and were directed against Russia.
            As for the employees of Svrboda radio themselves, as Grigory Klimov observed in an observational manner about them in his book Red Kabbalah, that on them all one way or another lies the seal of human degeneration, like the seal of the Antichrist. Therefore, Klimov, who was also a CIA full-time employee himself, wrote not without reason: “In any case, I think the CIA did not trust a single person on the staff of Radio Liberty and Voice of America radio.”
      2. +15
        16 September 2017 21: 04
        They all perfectly represent and understand.
        You do not understand this.

        They have a statement plan.
        How much and what content of statements they should give to the mountain a day, a week, a month.
        A special service in the SBU monitors their activity.
        Try not to give it away.
        From work to the street step march.
        And it will be called easy to get off.

        Already wrote, like that.
        The authorities want to "cover up" everyone: someone with blood, someone delirium.
        To thoroughly burn all the possibilities of establishing a dialogue with us.
        True, there are also “ideological” ones.
        Well, with these, everything is clear.
        But you will not envy the rest.

        But the SBU made life easier for itself.
        And then look for hidden enemies.
        And so everything is in manure.
        1. win
          +8
          16 September 2017 21: 46
          Only after the Maidan in Kiev did I understand the meaning of the Russian expression — well, did I jump?
      3. +9
        16 September 2017 21: 38
        Quote: cniza
        cniza


        Hello Victor.
        I don’t know about you, but I’m sick of these ukroorakuls (Valtsman intends to hold a conference in Yalta, Poltorak outlined the locations of the fleets of Ukraine and NATO in Sevastopol, Grymchak today with his opuses). They all went to ... opu. And I have read the good news, I think the forum users will also like it:
        1. +10
          16 September 2017 21: 42
          ...Good day. I am glad from the bottom of such news. This is from the category of incredible, from my point of view, but very positive.
          1. +7
            16 September 2017 21: 49
            Quote: KOT BYUN
            CAT BAIYUN


            Hey. But this, as I understand it, does not mean that the Dutch need to lower the scam with the Crimean museum gold of the Scythians. We must fight for his return to the Crimea, and for the future no contracts for our exhibitions in this thieves country.
            1. +11
              16 September 2017 22: 00
              Of course. It’s by no means necessary to lower some kind of fortels. Just something stretches the question for a long time. I do not see the news on this topic.
              I recall the coincidence with the twin towers in the states.
              Just before the aircraft hit one of the towers, the NOGA company located there again tried to seize the property of the Russian Federation. (do you recall the showdown with Kruzenshtern?). Naturally, in the absence of the plaintiff, the disassembly did not continue.
              God sees everything and marks the mockery.
              1. +3
                16 September 2017 22: 04
                Quote: KOT BYUN
                God sees everything and marks the mockery.


                May God grant him health and strength in this field.
    2. +13
      16 September 2017 20: 57
      Quote: Jedi
      Grymchak, it is necessary to have a bite

      And he’ll bite, he’ll go look for the Russian army in the Donbass to bring it out. But he will only find a squirrel. fellow The country requires heroes and gives birth fool fool fellow
      1. +27
        16 September 2017 21: 08
        Volodya, hello!
        Every day is sadder and sadder ...
        1. +11
          16 September 2017 21: 12
          Quote: Anarchist
          Volodya, hello!

          Hello Sanya! For some reason I am not surprised by this Grymchak fool fellow He must have gone for a grinder fellow
          drinks hi
          1. +23
            16 September 2017 21: 16
            Many optionsbut everywhere we find ourselves guilty ...
            1. +6
              16 September 2017 21: 28
              Guys, well, be honest with yourself ... Our army is there ... The captain's nephew was given ... hi
              1. +21
                16 September 2017 21: 32
                There is not an army, but small units. To adjust actions, briefing, etc. But they are not fighting.
              2. +15
                16 September 2017 21: 40
                Quote: By itself
                .There is our army there ... The captain's nephew was given ...

                And to my younger one, only for some reason he is not a member of the Russian army
                So it turns out, Py Sy, or maybe it would have been better if the Russian army had gone there in 2014, huh?
                1. +7
                  16 September 2017 21: 56
                  And this is a question for them, for your loved ones ...We are only for ...
                  1. +8
                    16 September 2017 21: 59
                    Quote: By itself
                    We are only for

                    And then Ostap Carried
              3. +22
                16 September 2017 21: 52
                Quote: By itself
                Guys, be honest with yourself.

                Let's. The army is not a dozen people with machine guns. This is a large farm with equipment and MTO, air support and means of amplification. You can’t hide it. And, if you want to be honest, imagine factology, not tales of "nephews." Otherwise, you look like the notorious Crimean "daughter of an officer." So far, no one has been able to provide evidence of the presence of Russian troops in the Donbass; Neither the Germans, nor the Americans, nor, especially, the Ukrainians. Do not try and you. And the instructors ... Naturally, they are present there. And it would be strange if they were not there.
                1. +3
                  16 September 2017 22: 28
                  I want to ask you a question. When the Soviet army began to wear epaulettes. Well, if you answer correctly, then you can say if the Russian army is in the Donbass.
                  1. +9
                    16 September 2017 22: 31
                    Quote: ventel
                    I want to ask you a question.

                    In the Soviet Army, epaulettes were introduced in the year 1943, but who are you to talk to you? Are you imagining yourself too much?
                    1. +1
                      16 September 2017 22: 33
                      The answer is not correct epaulettes in the Soviet army began to be worn back in the year 35 you did not know.
                      1. +9
                        17 September 2017 00: 01
                        Quote: ventel
                        in the Soviet army began to wear back in the year 35 you did not know.

                        The answer is not correct, in 1935 there was no Soviet army (SA), the army was red (Red Army) tongue
                  2. +5
                    16 September 2017 22: 38
                    Decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR 06.01.1943 "On the introduction of new insignia for the personnel of the Red Army" and from 15.02.1943 "On the introduction of new insignia for the personnel of the Navy."
                    1. +1
                      16 September 2017 22: 58
                      Yes, I asked when they started to wear and not when they were carrying on. And you know why I asked this question, you deny that you yourself logically know what to arm, financially support, equip and teach in such a short time, even the Bolsheviks failed and then the miners and combine harvesters suddenly became first-class artillerymen, anti-aircraft gunners, mechanics and commanders of a battalion level. What do you know about China of the 30s and you don’t know anything, and here you don’t know anything but a person can be called a liar for the truth.
                      1. +16
                        16 September 2017 23: 24
                        Quote: ventel
                        I asked when they started to wear and not when they were

                        This is the problem ukrov So what instructors in China wore epaulets? And here is the Red Army? What does the Donbass have to do with it? smile Stirlitz generally wore a swastika. You will not, on the basis of this, claim that the Red Army wore a swastika. You are replacing history and factology with tautology. And by this you confirm that all your words and statements are empty talk, not worthy of attention. Go to your pots, there you will be comfortable. laughing
                      2. +9
                        17 September 2017 04: 11
                        You forget that all these people fighting in the Donbass against Bandera, served in the army, or served in the police, or worked in private militarized structures, which means they can shoot .... In addition, after Ukraine (without shoulder straps) fought against Russia under the banner of: Dudaev, Maskhadov, Saakashvili ... blaming Russia for what it is doing to you today, as you did to Russia then, is at least ridiculous.
                      3. +3
                        17 September 2017 05: 42
                        And professionals from the Ukrainian army sharply became killers, punitive and looters.
                      4. +2
                        17 September 2017 07: 46
                        It’s impossible to quickly teach, but if people knew how to do this? All our countries are rich in reserves. And the size of the militia does not tell you anything? There are not hundreds of thousands, although at first the rebels expected such orders. But the actions of the militia at first, the gradual retreat under superior enemy forces, do not refute the presence of our troops there? A long stay ukrov in the WCS? When did they lose him? The correct answer was when the LPR presented the DPR with a bouquet of “Hyacinths” from the Kalmius brigade. Or do you think that taking, in essence, a civilian object, of our army (with its experience) was beyond the power of 282 days?
                      5. +3
                        17 September 2017 08: 53
                        My dear man, I remind you of one old military rule: war teaches quickly, who didn’t have time he died. And everything else is "inevitable accidents at sea"
              4. +7
                16 September 2017 22: 02
                Quote: By itself
                There is our army there ... The captain’s nephew was given ..

                whole army? why didn’t they find her sasha?
              5. +5
                16 September 2017 23: 05
                We know such "nephews"! On cesor.ua hang noodles on ears.
              6. +1
                17 September 2017 01: 11
                Quote: By itself
                Guys, well, be honest with yourself ... Our army is there ... The captain's nephew was given ... hi

                Your Dagger is, of course there is. Are you shy of your native flag? Are you encrypting it under the Russian flag?
            2. +16
              16 September 2017 22: 01
              Quote: Anarchist
              but everywhere we find ourselves guilty ...

              even in space shots
            3. +2
              17 September 2017 04: 34
              21.16. Anarchist! And you are only to blame for the fact that I want to eat! Looks appetizing we look and present for them a good piece of food! And while we haven’t slammed them well, we’ll seem to them to be a good piece that one wants to gobble up! hi
              1. +2
                17 September 2017 07: 16
                Quote: Region 34
                And while we haven’t slammed them well, we’ll seem to them to be a good piece that one wants to gobble up!

                A fox, a hare and a teddy bear fell into the pit. They are sitting. To eat hotstsa. Decided, who is the youngest, that will be eaten. The little fox says: - I am three years old. Hare: - And to me two. The teddy bear frowns and answers: - You do not look at me for six months. So u ..., um, knock, your appetite will be gone.
    3. Maz
      +2
      16 September 2017 22: 20
      Again a dollar overdose. They need to cut the rations. And then it gets boring
    4. 0
      17 September 2017 00: 03
      Quote: Jedi
      Donetsk region will return to Ukraine in 2018 year after the withdrawal of alleged Russian troops there, according to Deputy Minister for Temporarily Occupied Territories and Internally Displaced Persons Yuri Grymchak.

      Grymchak, you have to have a bite! And it’s better not to drink at all, if you don’t control your delirium after the first glass of a syvodor.

      if such clowns stop talking, then many local URYAKalok will lose their meaning in life.
      Look how tears them farts.
    5. +2
      17 September 2017 01: 29
      He doesn’t bite before the third, and after the third he doesn’t knit wink
    6. +1
      17 September 2017 04: 20
      Grymchak, you have to have a bite! And it’s better not to drink at all, if you don’t control your delirium after the first glass of a syvodor.
      No, it’s not a matter of booze, it’s most likely that there is excessive use of hallucinogenic pig manure.
    7. +1
      17 September 2017 09: 59
      The key word in this "message" - I think. richer in thought.
      1. +7
        17 September 2017 10: 06
        They don’t let him go to a normal "feeding trough", he only gets rich and remains.
  2. +7
    16 September 2017 20: 58
    As they didn’t enter, they won’t leave
    1. +20
      16 September 2017 21: 12
      They think differently
    2. win
      +7
      16 September 2017 21: 25
      Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov said
      that Russia and its troops do not intend to cross the border with Ukraine.
      Russia will simply move it to the vicinity of Krakow.
    3. win
      +5
      16 September 2017 21: 30
      America sincerely wonders:
      why should Russia send troops to Ukraine, because there is no oil and gas
      1. +2
        17 September 2017 04: 41
        21.30. Saigon! If Ukraine does not have oil and gas, then why the hell is the US interest so riveted on it ?!
  3. +8
    16 September 2017 20: 58
    Idiots and idiotic dreams.
    1. win
      +2
      16 September 2017 21: 28
      There are two problems in Russia - fools and roads. And in Ukraine, three are fools,
      roads and Russia
  4. +3
    16 September 2017 21: 08
    This is their "calm" such. With such Piggy.
  5. +2
    16 September 2017 21: 13
    In principle, there are not many times left, a year. It is possible that Grymchak has more information than hamsters from the network. Let's wait.
    1. +5
      16 September 2017 21: 25
      Quote: Curious
      In principle, there are not many times left, a year. It is possible that Grymchak has more information than hamsters from the network. Let's wait.

      Bravo! good Burn and wait, another seeker of the Russian army. wassat
      1. +1
        16 September 2017 21: 44
        "Burn and wait, another seeker of the Russian army." And what to look for her. Places of deployment almost all known around the world at all. Everyone knows perfectly well that the victorious armies of the LPR and the DPR exclusively by their own forces drive the arm of Banderstadt, as they wish, by extracting resources, ammunition and weapons in the mines of Donbass and receiving exclusively venison stew for help.
        1. +9
          16 September 2017 21: 52
          Quote: Curious
          Places of deployment almost all known around the world at all.

          Why are the places so known, in the sight of everyone, but they cannot find, well, tongue oh nuda evidence surfaced.burn good seeker hi
          1. 0
            16 September 2017 22: 04
            Dear, you are breaking through the open door. Do not shake your forehead. All sane people are well aware that there are no regular units of the Republic of Armenia in the LPR or the DPR. Of course, there may be horse-drawn divers, but these are special forces that can be anywhere. Here you know better. And then - see my comment.
            1. +6
              16 September 2017 22: 25
              Quote: Curious
              All sane people are well aware that there are no regular units of the Republic of Armenia in the LPR or the DPR.

              And right there
              Quote: Curious
              In principle, there are not many times left, a year. It is possible that Grymchak has more information than hamsters from the network. Let's wait.

              Are you contradicting yourself? Who is Grymchak going to deduce? And a hamster?
              1. 0
                16 September 2017 22: 32
                It can be seen epaulets do not always correspond to the level of intelligence. Okay, we’re not proud, we will repeat for the gifted.
                Where in my commentary it is written about some inputs and outputs or about what Grymchak said. Politicians generally rarely say something real. And Ukrainian absolutely deeply conspiratorial. Searching for something in these statements is wasting time.
                You copied my comment twice, but didn’t understand what was written in it? It is written that a variant of his greater awareness is possible than that of the site general. So drill a hole in uniform and write "Training", otherwise people will think that this is a field marshal.
                1. +8
                  16 September 2017 22: 44
                  Quote: Curious
                  It can be seen epaulets do not always correspond to the level of intelligence. Okay, we’re not proud, we will repeat for the gifted.
                  Where in my commentary it is written about some inputs and outputs or about what Grymchak said. Politicians generally rarely say something real. And Ukrainian absolutely deeply conspiratorial. Searching for something in these statements is wasting time.
                  You copied my comment twice, but didn’t understand what was written in it? It is written that a variant of his greater awareness is possible than that of the site general. So drill a hole in uniform and write "Training", otherwise people will think that this is a field marshal.

                  As always, nothing to say insults begin laughing You drill a hole in your head and put your brains in there and politeness however, All the best to you, good and good night. tongue Hamster laughing tongue hi
                  1. 0
                    16 September 2017 23: 21
                    Let’s say that there’s just nothing for you that you brilliantly confirmed with your answer. Therefore, insults and complaints went. You can also print my comment and trample it underfoot. Should help. And where are the insults? So, easy discussion sarcasm. Or are you just used to enthusiasm? So this is an erroneous attitude, leading to constant disappointment.
          2. +3
            17 September 2017 04: 48
            21.52. Vovanpine! So maybe they have there not the Russian army, but the Buryat? Why are they not making claims against the Buryats? AND? Apparently the Buryats frightened them so much that dill even squeak against them afraid! laughing And they bring down the Russian because the Russian army has not scared them yet! That's how it shuganet, so claims to it at once will not be! wassat
            1. +5
              17 September 2017 07: 43
              Quote: Region 34
              they bring down the Russian because the Russian army has not scared them yet! That's how it shuganet, so claims to it at once will not be!

              Greetings to the Region! hi Let them look for a needle in a haystack! laughing If they are all here for fool They believe that God is with them, even at their howl: “I don’t pay attention to us.” laughing For sho, but for Chechnya, there were still scumbags, for the second Chechnya, for 08.08.08, because they think that the miner didn’t even serve in the army and they don’t know how to shoot, that there weren’t a single military school retired officers of various levels laughing well, let them think it’s worse for them, but on the other hand there is some truth, they perfectly understand that Russia stands behind LDNR and, in case, the north wind can blow. laughing hi
        2. +24
          16 September 2017 21: 56
          It’s not the Russian army that is fighting. Does it help? Yes! But does not fight. Look at Syria, there are fighting the VKS and special forces. And outdated or tested equipment. What result? And if the Russian Federation enters its parts in the Donbass?
          Remember the events in South Ossetia! Saakashvili choked on his tie ...
          And Parashinka, drown in vodka!
          1. 0
            16 September 2017 22: 06
            So when?! When?!. So far, only talking and maintaining the conflict in a sluggish state. And when, with a mighty blow, we drive the powers of darkness into their den ?!
            1. +16
              16 September 2017 22: 29
              This is no longer a question for us. I can’t see this far from the sofa. But I can tell to whom ...
              Himself, to Him, I want to ask this question!
              1. +1
                16 September 2017 22: 36
                Well, it’s easier for you.
              2. 0
                17 September 2017 07: 36
                belay "Dark Lord" belay
            2. 0
              17 September 2017 06: 40
              chase, get together and chase away with a mighty blow ... personally, I don’t want to fight for you, you decide how to solve your problems with banderlogs ... it’s not hunting to die for ukrov, especially since you can only yell and threaten and build from Ukraine fucking plans, but to do something real against the Russian Federation, courage and strength are not enough ... I heard a lot from hefty foreheads like refugees from the Donbass or couch pseudo-patriots about "Putin introduce troops"
  6. win
    +8
    16 September 2017 21: 22
    Russia, subjected to incredible pressure from the United States, UN, Europe, etc.
    finally decided to send troops to Ukraine for a week,
    to fulfill the requirements for the withdrawal of Russian troops back

    1. +1
      17 September 2017 04: 54
      21.22.Saygon! Send troops for a week? And whose outskirts? USA or Russia? Can we better send troops to Mexico or Canada? Well, like this! For balance!
      1. 0
        17 September 2017 10: 14
        If I were an artist, based on comments I would write the picture "Sofa strategists decide the fate of the world."
        1. 0
          17 September 2017 13: 20
          10.14. What is the problem? You can become a writer and describe how couch strategists decided the fate of an independent! You can of course make fun of sofa strategists. But who in the 14th decided fate on the Maidan? Aren't sofa strategists under the control of real ones?
          1. +2
            17 September 2017 13: 55
            Yes, I see that the generality of the "News" section with an assessment of reality is experiencing tension. Because even to the lieutenant (not the couch and not from the "news" section) it is clear that nothing was decided at all on the "Maidan". These were the scenery for the masses. And the "fate" was decided elsewhere, and certainly without the participation of sofa varieties. And so far no one has heard these decisions.
            So I wish you continued promotion and the title of supergeneralisimus of the News section.
  7. +4
    16 September 2017 21: 23
    Apparently, Ukraine has very great hopes for peacekeepers.
    1. +2
      17 September 2017 04: 00
      Well, yes. In Kiev, they dream of repeating the Kosovo genocide of the Serbs in the Donbass, because they have already said more than once that they need Donbass and Crimea without Russians, and preferably also: Kuban, Voronezh, Lipetsk, Belgorod, Rostov-on-Don ...
  8. +2
    16 September 2017 21: 24
    The keyword will be back. That is, there is full recognition that today neither the LPR nor the DPR are part of Ukraine. At least something. Understanding by Freud, on a subconscious level, what is called.
    Well, if the so-called Ukraine fulfills the Minsk agreements, becomes a federal state, introduces bilingualism, making Russian the state language along with Ukrainian, ceases US occupation on its territory and, as a result, fascizes the country and people, withdraws its army to places of permanent deployment away from Donbass will officially make decisions of a popular referendum in Crimea on joining Russia, then, most likely, the LPR and the DPR will return to Ukraine.
    1. +1
      17 September 2017 03: 57
      Kiev will never do that. To do this, you will either have to destroy or imprison all national parties, such as: Liberty, the Right Sector and others, namely, on their bayonets Poroshenko and the company came to power and cut down the branch on which they will not sit.
    2. 0
      17 September 2017 04: 57
      21.24. Who will come back to whom !? Maybe the outskirts will return to Russia? Why not? The outskirts have never been part of Russia ?!
  9. +4
    16 September 2017 21: 28
    I am not special in matters of the DPR and LPR, people live there, they decide their questions, but after reading the report of a certain Grymchak, I realized that Ukraine doesn’t really want these territories to be part of Ukraine
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  11. 0
    16 September 2017 21: 32
    Wet mrii of Chucks and Chukes)) geeks in places already died out, lie calmly, improve the fertile layer ....
  12. win
    +3
    16 September 2017 21: 36
    The junta from Kiev says: Ukraine is one ...
    From Donbass echoes: Ukraine GO ON ...
  13. +3
    16 September 2017 21: 40
    Yes, if there were Russian troops in the Donbass, they would be afraid of APU and fart loudly, rather than shoot in that direction ... Indeed, the Khokhlot tribe am
  14. +1
    16 September 2017 21: 46
    I DO NOT think that this will happen at all ... after everything that happened ... hardly.
  15. +2
    16 September 2017 21: 51
    Quote: Curious
    It is possible that Grymchak has more information

    Funny (serious) but don’t hope.
  16. mmk
    +1
    16 September 2017 21: 59
    Another clown Borman with the name Krymchak. I am surprised that this did not take the name Karaim.
  17. +3
    16 September 2017 22: 41

    It’s like the end of the world. Shifts every year for a year ...
  18. +2
    16 September 2017 22: 51
    Another hohlokassandra.
  19. Bat
    +2
    16 September 2017 22: 54
    Roll your lips, Citizen Gram Chuck.
  20. 0
    16 September 2017 23: 39
    Monos,
    Yes, you don’t even know that in the 30s there were entire units of Soviet troops in Sijiang that suppressed the national liberation movement of indigenous peoples from the Chinese. And shoulder straps at the same time led to hide the presence of Soviet troops disguising themselves as escaping White Guards. So whoever has the pan on his head. Donbass, too, the same story was taken off by chevrons, it seems, and not the Russian army, but the militias, all completely combine operators and miners.
    1. +3
      17 September 2017 00: 44
      Quote: ventel
      So who has the pan on his head.

      until you provide proof of your words, the pan will remain with you.
      1. 0
        17 September 2017 09: 15
        Type in the Wijpedia Shijiang Uyghur region of China and read the story. The designer-designer in the Aircraft Chronicle of the R-5 aircraft described how the rebels were bombed in China. And as for the force that the Red Army wore epaulets, I can’t find it. Sorry, the Internet is big.
    2. 0
      17 September 2017 03: 51
      But what were you silent when the Ukrainian army fought against the Russian Federation under the banners: Dudaev, Maskhadov, Saakashvili ?! And now Russia has attacked ?! Where is the logic?! Why is Donbass worse or better than Chechnya ?! Why is it possible for Ukraine, but not for Russia ?!
      1. +2
        17 September 2017 10: 37
        Where is the evidence that the Ukrainian army fought in Chechnya where is the evidence that the Armed Forces of Ukraine or Ukraine transferred weapons to the Chechens. How do you like to write links to the studio. It reminded the statement of one German officer with NNA during the Ethiopo-Somali war for Odegen "Russians command, Cubans fight and Ethiopians celebrate victory"
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          17 September 2017 13: 26
          Program ,, Special correspondent. Trophies '' is about the 2008 war in Ossetia. The program “Military Secret” issues September 18.09.09, 11.09.09 (this is about the war in Chechnya) and September XNUMX, XNUMX. (this is about the war in Chechnya and Ossetia) There is enough evidence of Ukraine’s participation in the war against Russia.
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            17 September 2017 15: 23
            Well, where was the Ukrainian army in Chechnya, what did it teleport to, and UNA-UNSO were not denied by the organization’s leaders, like Kozitsyn, Strelkov, that Don Cossacks fought on the side of the separatists, and also Russian political forces. As for the fact that we were selling weapons to Georgia since Georgia is a sovereign country and has the right to buy weapons without violating world law, someone does not shout about the fact that Russia is selling weapons to Armenia and Azeibardzhan. Well then, watch OM TV broadcasts about the military equipment that is used in the Donbass.
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              17 September 2017 16: 16
              So Strelkova today you call the Russian army and say, not without reason, that Russia helps him. And when Ukraine helped UNA-UNSO, why were you silent ?! Ukraine signed a friendship agreement with the Russian Federation, and right there, not only did it refuse to extradite bandits and terrorists to the Russian Federation from your UNA-UNSO who committed crimes on the territory of the Russian Federation, it also gave Georgia the professional military who fought in Ossetia against the Russian Federation. Or do you think we don’t know that all the airplanes of the Russian Aerospace Forces shot down in Ossetia’s air defense system ,, Buk '' were shot down by the military from Ukraine ?! There weren’t even specialists in Georgia to control such weapons ... In addition, Ukraine handed over to Georgia a missile boat received by Ukraine from Greece and handed over with the crew ...
              1. +1
                17 September 2017 19: 10
                Yes, propaganda does wonders, you believe everything that your media broadcasts reading that it’s all true. Well, then, to say that your journalists are interviewing the leaders of the separatists and this is shown on your TV, I don’t remember what Unas showed the interview with Basayev, Maskhadov, Dudaev, and our deputies did not defend them at the talk show. Nobody called Strelkova and his comrades who captured the peaceful city the Russian army, after all, they were ordinary mercenaries whom the FSB used to play in Russian nationalism. Why do you think Strelkova was forgotten and I will answer you in Russia Remember the dead heroes They don’t remember the dead They didn’t succeed in making 300 riflemen make them martyrs for the Russian world I had to invent fairy tales about a crucified boy about eaten bullfinches. , UNA-UNSO passed weapons so show also show where the Russian Federation passed the lists of UNA-UNSO members who fought in Chechnya to Ukraine, it all comes down to the fact that they were but no one saw them. So, in your opinion, there are Georgian pilots but anti-aircraft gunners in Georgia there wasn’t and that Georgians only know how to trade and learn how to take an anti-aircraft gunner but no one knows how to Slavs. And it didn’t occur to you that the losses in the Russian Air Force from the mediocrity of your command is where the main principle is with God’s help to defeat the adversary. you all got it wrong yes Ukraine handed over to Georgia a Soviet-built missile boat and one border guard boat pr 206 in bad condition according to the section of the Black Sea Fleet of the USSR. Greece handed over to Georgia one of the La La Combat2 type boats without missiles. And try to name your opponent.
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                  17 September 2017 20: 06
                  Yes, you have Dmitro Korchinsky, who fought against Russia in Chechnya, put himself in the presidency of Ukraine, but I did not hear something that Strelkov went to the presidential election in Russia. I don’t need to hang noodles on my ears, a nationalist suffering from Russophobia and you do not blame the Russians for nationalism, after what you did and do with Russians in your national republics ...
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                    17 September 2017 21: 31
                    Well, so you carefully read about Korchinsky on Wikipedia why he wasn’t arrested in the Russian Federation. You and Yatsenyuk fought in Chechnya in Transnistria, and soon he will have links with Ben incense. You are sick of the propoganda that I personally divide people into Russians, Ukrainians, Moldavans, Bulgarians, Uzbeks, and I have never had to, because I shot a whole year in one I lived in a tent and shared bread with them.
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                      17 September 2017 21: 49
                      Yes, you have already divided them, moreover, when you finally burned the Russians in Odessa. The Russian Government has a lot of “mishaps”, such as a former member of the Federation Council of the Russian Federation Bandera Narusova, but how much rope does not curl, and the end will be Russia cleansed of patients with Russophobia, not by washing, so by skating ''
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                        17 September 2017 22: 13
                        So I see how in Russia they fight Russophobia, Muslims can go to an unauthorized rally and the police smiles politely, and when the Russian people come out against their corruption with batons and a jail. After all, Muslims went for co-religionists and the Russian people for their rights.
    3. 0
      17 September 2017 06: 47
      links to the studio ... but for now, stay silent in a saucepan, fed up with your delirium ...
    4. 0
      17 September 2017 08: 21
      But in China and its environs, there was no army at the time for conscription. Therefore, there was a need for regular army assistance from a neighbor. And in the Donbass has its own army of storerooms. Why are they worse than dryers? And experience in driving tracked vehicles, and experience in explosives. And to remember how to shoot from a howitzer, one wants to shout as in one of the last Soviet films about military training: “Alm-ata”! - “Kustanai”!
  21. +1
    16 September 2017 23: 57
    Now these arguments are not too interesting. Within a month or two, President Valtsman will disappear from the political horizon of Grymchak, and he will move on to another job.
  22. 0
    17 September 2017 00: 16
    The deputy of any minister should give his estimates and forecasts on the basis of objective data, and not invent, referring to "the information available to him." And then all these "thoughts" look like a game of a "bandura-player without a bandura".
  23. +1
    17 September 2017 00: 40
    Quote: Monos
    claim that the Red Army wore a swastika.


    for the sake of objectivity
  24. +1
    17 September 2017 01: 26
    Earlier, Grymchak said that Russia allegedly began the withdrawal (???) of Russian weapons from the territory of Donbass

    Svidomo lying!
  25. +4
    17 September 2017 02: 06
    Another uncle, a storyteller, a master of colloquial articulate his dreams from the city of Kukuev ... Logic zero. Russia will never withdraw its troops from the Donbass for the simple reason that it did not send them there and they are not there. And since the main condition “withdrawal of troops” is not fulfilled in any other year in 2018, the Donbass, quite naturally, does not return to the ukakina. Out. Now about the sanctions. Thank God they will not be removed for decades, at least under President Putin and his worthy successor. If unworthy, it will be possible. But sanctions are good for a patriotic Russia, a developing Russia, an independent Russia.
  26. +2
    17 September 2017 03: 47
    The people will not understand the departure of Russia from the Donbass in Russia, it will be regarded as a drain and I do not envy the government that decides to do this. In Russia, there are quite a few volunteers who shed blood there, who first became disappointed in Plotnitsky, and if they were completely disappointed in Moscow .... The people already have a lot of questions about being free such as: Chubais, Yakunin, Yavlinsky, Gannushkina and the like ...
  27. 0
    17 September 2017 04: 23
    Quote: Curious
    In principle, there are not many times left, a year. It is possible that Grymchak has more information than hamsters from the network. Let's wait.

    Of course we will wait, well, there are still voices in Granchak’s head whispered .....
  28. +1
    17 September 2017 05: 25
    Grymchak calls the mercenaries of the Donbass militias who came from Russia and other countries of the world. In my opinion, mercenaries can be in the army that is attacking, there are mercenaries in the Ukrainian army, and internationalist militias in the Donbass army. Take an example: Hemingway in Spain, when he fought for the Republicans against, by the way, FASTA Franco was a mercenary?
  29. +2
    17 September 2017 06: 27
    Donetsk region will return to Ukraine in 2018 year after the withdrawal of alleged Russian troops there, according to Deputy Minister for Temporarily Occupied Territories and Internally Displaced Persons Yuri Grymchak. May I write in the protocol? Then we will reveal to the liar his ambitions. In the person of 12,7-102.
  30. +2
    17 September 2017 06: 42
    Quote: ventel
    and then suddenly they became first-class gunners, anti-aircraft gunners, mechanics and commanders of a battalion level.

    And the example of Dybenko, Makhno, Chapaev, etc. doesn’t say anything ?! Time pushes talented people to the surface! And these miners and combine operators, in the past soldiers of the military service of the Armed Forces of the USSR or Ukraine! Where were first-class gunners, anti-aircraft gunners, mechanics! Years passed, but the pens remember ..............................
    1. 0
      17 September 2017 07: 26
      Hands remember the native AK 74, N '1636892. 28 years have passed, though he worked with Saiga and went to army training camps. Believe hands remember!
  31. 0
    17 September 2017 07: 20
    Why does he smoke so hard? No need to sleep, I do not respect drugs.
  32. +1
    17 September 2017 08: 44
    Grymchak told how and when the Russian Federation will leave the Donbass

    It’s impossible to get away from somewhere where you are not. request
  33. 0
    17 September 2017 09: 31
    Yes, even if there is. What is the problem then. The junta came to power illegally.
  34. 0
    17 September 2017 10: 01
    So it turns out that Putin wanted the best way - to place peacekeepers on the demarcation line, but it turns out a scruff of the neck - the Americans are twisting in their own way. After such twists and turns it is necessary to recognize the republics and already officially help.
  35. 0
    17 September 2017 13: 42
    Grymchak may think so, but the facts are extremely against this, therefore, people either are an unwise person or breed clowning. Here we stupidly look at the weather - it’s hot 30 in the shade, we swim in the Kalmius river and this is the border of the Great Don Army and Sich according to the decree of Empress Elizabeth from ~ 1744., but we don’t see the enemy, only pigeons drink water on the crest of the dam. On September 9, they noted the liberation from Europe in the form of the Fuhrer of Donbass, and what was at stake? A new invasion? and the graves of warriors, both new and three-hundred-centuries-old, for which they dug. so that it "shines" our ears are rinsed. Rest sweetheart, Here everything stood still waiting for a shake.
    1. 0
      17 September 2017 17: 53
      Yes, the army of the Russian Federation did not take part in the Crimea, and then they received medals for the return of the Crimea.
  36. 0
    17 September 2017 18: 47
    Ukroonanizm - severe and merciless
  37. +1
    17 September 2017 22: 06
    Grymchak told how and when the Russian Federation will leave the Donbass
    And when Russia finally enters the Donbass, he did not say? belay
  38. +1
    17 September 2017 22: 15
    ventel,
    Yavlinsky is not the Russian people and they come out not to the good of the Russian people, but to their detriment. The time will come, we will deal with them and with you and with the Basmachi. In Russia, they’re harnessed for a long time, but they go fast. '' Russia is cleansed of Russophobia, do not hesitate. Moreover, your UNA-UNSO Basmach ally since 1994.
    1. 0
      17 September 2017 22: 42
      So you think that theft, nepotism is good for the Russian people. When the time comes, you’ve already been put a yoke on you because you don’t go out on the street and you don’t demand from the authorities where the money goes into the officials’s pocket or for people's well-being. a wall will be built.
      1. +1
        17 September 2017 22: 44
        I believe that the US sixes in power in Russia will do nothing but harm Russia, especially since these Yavlinsky have been stealing for a long time ... Russia has never lived as badly as without US sanctions and with US friends in power, 90- x
        1. 0
          17 September 2017 22: 51
          That is why all patriots that Russian and Ukrainian are to blame for everything, but not the people who choose that power.
          1. +1
            17 September 2017 22: 55
            But no one chooses power, even in the USA, and you were so divorced on the Maidan as kindergarteners ... They promised you a fight against the oligarchs, and the oligarch has the supreme power in your country ... Isn’t that funny ?!
            1. 0
              17 September 2017 23: 15
              Sorry, here I don’t agree when I see that new asphalt was laid near my house and made a handrail in the staircase, and before that 30 years nothing had been done, do you think the merit of any people or deputy.
              1. +1
                17 September 2017 23: 19
                Just what you did in your home doesn’t mean anything, because the country is full of houses in which they didn’t do anything and if you haven’t done anything for 30 years, this doesn’t mean that for 30 years you haven’t done anything anywhere ... So an example is untenable ... I now know that in Dnepropetrovsk, since the independence of Ukraine, there is no hot water, everyone is sitting there on Chinese electric heaters ...
                1. 0
                  17 September 2017 23: 35
                  And if I tell you that not only in my village they lay new asphalt but also in the city in the yards lay new asphalt, this also means nothing. For that, I still have to wait 30 years for all this to be done. When the authorities of 25 years said that there was no money for repairs, and then money appeared for a year, this does not mean anything to you.
                  1. 0
                    18 September 2017 09: 27
                    But in the Ternopil region, there are still no roads, and in Dneproperovsk hot water ... And that is not the point ... The fact is that the friends of the United States were already in power in Russia, in the 90s and there was nothing but troubles and hunger Russia was not given ...