Syrian combat check

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Syrian combat check


“Red Star” continues to publish speeches of participants of the round table “Experience in accomplishing tasks by groups of troops (forces) in the Syrian Arab Republic”, which was held in the framework of the International Military-Technical Forum “Army-2017”. In this issue, readers will be able to familiarize themselves with the content of two reports: on the peculiarities of combat operations in urban conditions and on the results of testing new types of weapons, military and special equipment.





Lieutenant-General Alexander Romanchuk, Deputy Commander of the Southern Military District, told about the specifics of military operations in the city, who, as the moderator of the round table was told by Acting Chief of the Military Academy of the General Staff, Lieutenant-General Sergei Chvarkov, during the liberation of Aleppo, was the chief military adviser to the Syrian Arab army.

Noting that the establishment of control over urbanized areas is one of the key conditions for achieving success during modern wars, Lieutenant General Alexander Romanchuk listed the main features of the conduct of hostilities in the city. Among them, first of all, the absence of a clear line of combat contact and its vertical extension (from underground communications to the upper floors of buildings) and in depth. Secondly, these are difficulties in the implementation of maneuver by forces and means, as well as in the use of armored vehicles due to the significant number of obstacles. Another feature is the advantage of the defending side in the knowledge of the terrain.

The fourth feature is that hostilities take place in residential areas. From a humanitarian point of view, this is the most important issue of concern. Obviously, a significant number of civilians creates significant difficulties for the actions of troops and requires the attraction of additional forces and funds to ensure their withdrawal from the combat zone, organization of deployment, and measures to identify militants among them. In addition, the presence of civilians in the city at least complicates, and in some cases completely eliminates the possibility of the use of heavy weapons, including artillery and aviation.

“The use of civilians as human shields was widely used by militants in Afghanistan, Syria,” the speaker noted. “Having driven people onto the streets of the city, illegal armed groups create conditions under which the movement of the equipment of the assault units is difficult, government troops cannot fire, fearing great losses among local residents.

All this was confirmed by the events in Aleppo, where government forces had to solve humanitarian tasks. With the liberation of the eastern quarters of this provincial city, more than 136 people were taken out of the combat zone. Information support was provided, measures were taken to identify militants among civilians.

As a powerful means of destruction when performing fire missions, the TOS-1A heavy flame-throwing system proved itself.

Lieutenant General Alexander Romanchuk drew the attention of the roundtable participants to the dissimilarity of events during operations in Aleppo and the Iraqi Mosul, which was freed from igilovtsev forces of the American-led coalition. The leadership of the international coalition promised to conduct the operation as soon as possible and with minimal use of heavy weapons. But after blocking the city, humanitarian corridors were not organized. The civilian population left the city spontaneously, as a result, people died not only at the hands of militants, but also during air strikes and artillery. The city was virtually wiped out, according to some information, about 40 thousands of civilians were killed in it.

“When acting in urban conditions, the main thing is to find ways to accomplish the task of mastering a populated area with minimal use of military force,” the speaker continued. - In this regard, complex actions of the troops come to the fore. Therefore, the organization of the operation will take significantly more time than in normal conditions.

At the same time, no non-military measures will give a positive result without relying on military force, said Lieutenant-General Alexander Romanchuk. The enemy needs to prove that the opposing grouping of troops has all the necessary forces to capture the city.

First of all, the city should be blocked in order to block the path of supplying the enemy with reserves, ammunition and other materiel. The blockade should not be passive. Short, “needle” offensive actions should be carried out along the entire contact line.

“Let the task be to capture one building in each direction, but this will not allow the enemy to identify the direction of the main attacks and concentrate the main forces on them,” explained the speaker.

In determining the intention, it is important to assess the situation inside the city - the economy, living conditions and the mood of the population, food supplies, the possibilities for replenishing them.

“All this is necessary in order to find those vulnerable points or critical points, the impact on which will create conditions for the enemy to abandon the defense of the city,” said Lieutenant General Romanchuk and gave an example of how the defense of militants considerably weakened during the capture of the eastern regions of Aleppo. when their coordination headquarters were destroyed.

A special feature in the preparation and conduct of hostilities for the liberation of Aleppo was the extensive use of 3D-cards with the possibility of detailing settlements to a separate house. This, according to the deputy commander of the Southern Military District troops, made it possible to most effectively determine the combat missions of the units that were assigned in the city according to clearly defined structures, quarters and districts.

- The experience of Aleppo showed that the most effective way to take a city is a combination of two methods: local actions of small forces along the line of contact of the parties and the onset of reinforced assault detachments in converging directions with a view to dissecting the city into separate parts, violation of the stability of the defense and subsequent destruction of scattered militant groups in parts, the speaker continued, stressing the need to pay special attention to the direct preparation of assault detachments.
In this regard, the experience of the assault units of the Syrian Arab Army in the preparation and conduct of hostilities to liberate the complex of military schools in the south-western suburb of Aleppo is indicative.

“Even despite the lack of time, the assault units were not brought into battle until they completed the entire combat training cycle, which ended with tactical exercises on the subject of the forthcoming hostilities under the guidance of the unit commander,” the speaker noted.

In addition, when preparing for action, the Syrian units were fully provided with necessary equipment, stockpiles of weapons and ammunition. Thus, the commander of the unit concentrated on the direction of the attack all the smoke stocks in his troops.
Thirdly, as a result of the reconnaissance of the area of ​​forthcoming actions, the command chose the most advantageous direction for the attack - from where the enemy did not expect it.

“And the last thing is suddenness and swiftness of action,” noted Lieutenant General Alexander Romanchuk. - Transition to attack at nightfall. Throw on the technique to the leading edge of the enemy defense. The attack of the front edge from three directions and the seizure of a profitable turn - an earthen bank, passing along the southern border of the complex of military schools.

“As a result of such training, the assault detachments managed to complete the task in two days, which other units could not accomplish within a month,” stated the speaker.

It is necessary to prepare thoroughly for conducting combat operations in urban conditions, using all the space and features of urban development, to develop new forms and methods of conducting combat operations in megalopolises, the deputy commander of the Southern Military District summed up. Particular attention should be paid to determining the optimal organizational structure of the units and tactical methods of combat operations.

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Chairman of the Military Scientific Committee of the Armed Forces - Deputy Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, Lieutenant-General Igor Makushev at a round table reported on the results of testing new weapons, military and special equipment (VVST) in Syria. He noted that the VVST check in combat conditions, the evaluation of the effectiveness of the use of new systems and complexes is carried out on a regular basis with the involvement of representatives of interested military authorities, research organizations of the Russian Ministry of Defense and enterprises of the military-industrial complex. More than 200 weapons models have already been tested, which showed high efficiency based on the results of combat use and proved their ability to perform the assigned tasks.

Long-range aircraft Tu-160 and Tu-95MS in a real combat situation for the first time used a new air-launched missile X-101

According to the plan of the General Staff, for the first time combat use of high-precision air and sea-based weapons was carried out, the option of using air and sea components in a single strike was worked out. Long-range aircraft Tu-160 and Tu-95MS in a real combat situation for the first time used a new air-based missile X-101. Accuracy of hit, fixed by means of objective control, meets the requirements, stated the speaker. At the same time, flights of strategic bombers were carried out from the territory of Russia along routes that run over Iran and Iraq, as well as over the northern seas and the eastern part of the Atlantic. In the latter case, the aircraft crossed 11 thousand. Km, having made two refueling in the air. They performed missile launches over the Mediterranean and returned to the home airfield.

For the first time in the practice of the Russian Navy under combat conditions, a massive launch of Caliber cruise missiles was carried out, including from a submarine that was underwater. High precision application weapons sea-based allowed to ensure the destruction of targets at a distance of 1,5 thousand. Kms with the required accuracy.

- Thus, the testing of high-precision long-range weapons confirmed the ability of the Navy fleet ensure the presence in remote areas of the oceans on a long-term basis in readiness for delivering single, group and joint attacks, ”the speaker concluded.

The Caliber missile has an export version designed to equip submarines, surface ships, aircraft-based missile systems, mobile ground-based missile systems, including those placed in a standard 40-foot sea container.

As for the participation in the special operation of Tu-22М3 bombers, the speaker noted that more than 250 sorties were made. At the same time, Tu-22М3, which have undergone modernization, were used: specialized computing subsystems SVP-24-22 were installed on them, which made it possible to significantly increase the accuracy of bombing.

The SVP-24 “Hephaestus” system by analyzing GLONASS data on the relative position of the aircraft and the target, taking into account the magnitude of the atmospheric pressure, air humidity, wind speed, flight speed and a number of other factors, calculates the course, speed and altitude of the aircraft’s destruction weapons, followed by bombing carried out in automatic mode.

“The main contribution to the solution of the tasks of defeating the objects of illegal armed formations was made by airplanes of operational-tactical aviation of the VKS, as well as by naval aviation of the Navy,” said Lieutenant-General Igor Makushev. - Aviation combat voltage averaged 3-4 aircraft departure per day, and in some cases reached 6.

At the same time, the speaker said, 50 percent of the main tasks for the aviation destruction of enemy targets were carried out by Su-24M bombers and Su-25CM attack aircraft. The upgraded Su-25CM aircraft provided the opportunity for bombing using a satellite navigation system. In turn, the use of Su-24М bombers, equipped with the Hephaestus SVP-24 subsystem, made it possible to ensure the effectiveness of the destruction of enemy targets by unmanaged bombs, comparable to the accuracy of using adjustable bombs.

“The fourth-generation Su-34 fighter-bomber ensured accurate strikes both in the tactical and operational depth of the enemy’s territory,” continued the speaker, listing the advantages of this aircraft and noting the effective use of KAB-34 bombs and X- missiles by Su-500 crews. 29L with laser-guided.

For the first time in real combat conditions, the Su-35С multifunctional fighter was used.

“In the course of testing, the Su-35С aircraft used corrected aerial bombs and air-to-surface guided missiles,” said Lt. Gen. Makushev. - High accuracy characteristics showed corrected aerial bomb with a passive homing head KAB-500KR. The X-29TD air-to-surface guided missile was launched, as well as the X-35U anti-ship missile modified for combat use by ground targets. The maximum bomb load of the aircraft for one flight was 8 tons.

In addition, taking into account the equipment of the Su-35S Khibiny electronic countermeasures complex, as well as large-range air-to-air guided missiles, the aircraft performed tasks to cover aviation strike groups with patrol escorts and air defenses in the area of ​​the combat mission.

A significant contribution to the solution of combat missions in Syria is made by combat helicopters Ka-52 and Mi-28N. They are widely used both to destroy tanks, armored vehicles and manpower of the enemy, and for conducting air reconnaissance, ensuring the safe take-off and landing of aircraft at the Khmeimim airfield.

“During testing, helicopters were used in simple and complex weather conditions, during the day and at night, including using night-vision goggles,” said Lieutenant-General Makushev. “At the same time, effective combat use of anti-tank Ataka-1, Vortex-1 and Igla guided missiles was ensured.

He also stressed that the airborne defense systems installed on the Mi-28H and Ka-52 helicopters provide a warning about the exposure of the radar stations to ground, ship and airborne weapons detection and control complexes, objects with laser radiation, as well as effective countermeasures to portable anti-aircraft missile systems with infrared homing heads.

For the destruction of ground targets used Su-33 and MiG-29K from the composition of the naval air group. In turn, the ship-based helicopters performed the tasks of air cover, aerial reconnaissance and search for enemy submarines, as well as cargo delivery and personnel transportation.

“The daily contribution to the destruction of enemy targets during the life of the naval aviation group averaged at least 20 percent,” the speaker said.

Russian artillery systems have proven themselves well in Syria. In total, the volume of fire missions solved by the missile forces and artillery in the operation exceeded 45 percent of the total number of designated targets.
“High accuracy and efficiency of strikes was confirmed during the use of the Tochka and Tochka-U tactical missile systems by the armed forces of the Syrian Arab Republic,” the speaker said.

The high effectiveness of combat use was confirmed by the MLRS Smerch, Uragan and Grad. For the destruction of armored objects, artillery and mortar calculations of the enemy are used 152-mm howitzer "Msta-B" and 122-mm howitzer "D-30". There is also a high reliability of the armament of the rocket troops and artillery.

“As a powerful means of destruction when performing fire missions, the TOS-1A heavy flame-throwing system has proved itself,” said Lieutenant-General Igor Makushev. - The nature of the targets hit - areas where illegal armed groups are located, command posts, fire positions.

He noted the high efficiency of thermobaric ammunition of heavy flame-throwing systems TOC-1А with their massive use, including during the attack on the militants' prepared defense.

Summing up, Lieutenant-General Igor Makushev said that weapons samples tested in Syria under real conditions of armed conflict correspond to the declared characteristics.

“The identified shortcomings and individual malfunctions did not affect the performance of combat missions,” said the speaker. - At the same time, for each problematic issue, the most thorough analysis was carried out, including with the involvement of representatives of the military-industrial complex, and exhaustive measures were developed to eliminate the causes of abnormal operation of weapons and military equipment.

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  1. +8
    16 September 2017 07: 37
    ... the experience of warfare in Syria for us - Invaluable - that’s why the staff officers work there ... it’s theirs, and military analysts’s bread is difficult and sometimes bitter, but there is no good war ...
    1. +4
      16 September 2017 09: 32
      Quote: aszzz888
      the experience of warfare in Syria for us is invaluable

      And politically, we have been recognized as a world power! Syria it was a dangerous move for Russia, but still survived .. Kuzkin’s mother was shown to everyone (Caliber, etc.))))! But with Ukraine it’s more difficult ..
      PS Maybe we’ll test the newest Armata tank near the Israeli border, let it look at the Merkava with its radiation .. bully
      1. +5
        16 September 2017 11: 13
        DEPARTMENT ... PS Maybe we’ll test the newest Armata tank near the Israeli border, let it look at the Merkava with its radiation ..

        ... so, and what to equate the chariot with our novoy is definitely “Armata” MANY times better - here even the grandmother, the Israeli, don’t go ...
        1. 0
          16 September 2017 11: 40
          Quote: aszzz888
          DEPARTMENT ... PS Maybe we’ll test the newest Armata tank near the Israeli border, let it look at the Merkava with its radiation ..

          ... so, and what to equate the chariot with our novoy is definitely “Armata” MANY times better - here even the grandmother, the Israeli, don’t go ...

          Well, you still need to check ... They do not believe us. some comrades! Maybe I’ll have to arrange a duel .. soldier
          I put ten shekels on a carrot .. (don't mind!)))
          1. +2
            16 September 2017 13: 53
            Quote: DEPARTMENT
            I put ten shekels on a carrot .. (don't mind!)))

            it’s necessary ... the author of this opus himself hardly knows what he’s talking about, I’m talking about the author of the article),
            that establishing control over urban areas
            Urbanize it
            Urbanization (from Lat. Urbanus - urban) - the process of increasing the role of cities, urban culture and "urban relations" in the development of society, increasing the size of the urban population ..
            , what did the author lead to this term? probably ... oh well ....
            1. +2
              17 September 2017 21: 42
              Quote: NIKNN
              it’s necessary ... the author of this opus himself hardly knows what he’s talking about, I’m talking about the author of the article),
              that establishing control over urban areas
              Urbanize it
              Urbanization (from Lat. Urbanus - urban) - the process of increasing the role of cities, urban culture and "urban relations" in the development of society, increasing the size of the urban population ..
              , what did the author lead to this term? probably ... oh well ....

              “Under the urbanized area is understood a relatively wide area of ​​settlement with a high population density and a high level of urban settlements, which forms a system of interconnected and mutually reinforcing agglomerations and multifunctional centers of different ranks.
              The basis of an urbanized area is usually composed of several large urban agglomerations, which, due to their counter development, create an area with common functional and morphological features. "
              Before criticism, it would not be bad to "grow" into the topic.
              1. +2
                17 September 2017 21: 46
                Quote: ARES623
                Before criticism, it would not be bad to "grow" into the topic.

                Well, as if about the topic, but the topic is something else .. laughing And it’s funny and I would like about friendship ... hi
          2. +1
            17 September 2017 12: 36
            DEPARTMENT: I ​​put ten shekels on a carrot .. (do not mind!)
            I’m 10.5 wooden per arm hi
            1. +2
              17 September 2017 12: 47
              Quote: fider
              DEPARTMENT: I ​​put ten shekels on a carrot .. (do not mind!)
              I’m 10.5 wooden per arm hi

              And I have hryvnia. I put it anywhere.
              1. +2
                17 September 2017 15: 17
                Quote: Mordvin 3
                And I have hryvnia. I put it anywhere.

                It is in vain, after a while they will be quoted as artifacts of a state-vanished from the world map! Yes
      2. +3
        17 September 2017 04: 36
        Some say that "after Syria, even theoretical talk about the war against Russia with conventional weapons was removed from the agenda." That is, all Western dances near our borders, now - only dance. The unrealizability of even a "local war against Russia" (according to some) has become so obvious. that the West is moving from “pressure” to economic war.
        If the chance that at least the army will give us rearm and equip. All that remains is to strangle the liberals and develop the economy.
        1. 0
          17 September 2017 12: 55
          Quote: Mih1974
          If the chance that at least the army will give us rearm and equip. All that remains is to strangle the liberals and develop the economy.

          And we strive for this ... Howl stands around the world! But we will achieve our goals, be sure!

          All men will come back surely ..
          1. 0
            17 September 2017 13: 06
            DEPARTMENT?
            So what about your pension and utility bills?
            1. +1
              17 September 2017 13: 31
              Quote: analgin
              DEPARTMENT?
              So what about your pension and utility bills?

              I actually work for the state .. soldier It’s difficult of course, but I’m not used to whining! You, as I understand it, wanted me to ache .. hehe
              1. 0
                17 September 2017 14: 02
                Quote: DEPARTMENT
                Quote: analgin
                DEPARTMENT?
                So what about your pension and utility bills?

                I actually work for the state .. soldier It’s difficult of course, but I’m not used to whining! You, as I understand it, wanted me to ache .. hehe

                You misunderstood me. I didn’t want you to "ache." I just wanted you to indicate the amount of your pension and your payment for housing and communal services.
                I ask this for the third time, but it is clear that this is an impossible task for you. laughing
                1. +1
                  17 September 2017 14: 46
                  [quote = analgin] [quote = DEPARTMENT] [quote = analgin] DEPARTMENT?
                  So what about your pension and payment for housing and communal services? [/ Quote]
                2. +4
                  17 September 2017 16: 14
                  Quote: analgin
                  Quote: DEPARTMENT
                  Quote: analgin
                  DEPARTMENT?
                  So what about your pension and utility bills?

                  I actually work for the state .. soldier It’s difficult of course, but I’m not used to whining! You, as I understand it, wanted me to ache .. hehe

                  You misunderstood me. I didn’t want you to "ache." I just wanted you to indicate the amount of your pension and your payment for housing and communal services.
                  I ask this for the third time, but it is clear that this is an impossible task for you. laughing

                  if you are not in the course, then "... the Government of the Russian Federation provides for the provision of cash assistance to low-income families. These are mainly single people, pensioners, people with disabilities or large families and low-income families. These are citizens who have a total family income below the subsistence level, established by law, when spending more than 22% of the family budget on utility bills. This threshold mainly depends on the region of residence, in Moscow it is only 10% .... "
                  1. 0
                    17 September 2017 16: 50
                    Quote: Nikolai Grek

                    if you are not in the course, then "... the Government of the Russian Federation provides for the provision of cash assistance to low-income families. These are mainly single people, pensioners, people with disabilities or large families and low-income families. These are citizens who have a total family income below the subsistence level, established by law, when spending more than 22% of the family budget on utility bills. This threshold mainly depends on the region of residence, in Moscow it is only 10% .... "

                    And what does this have to do with the pension of the DEPARTMENT and its payment for housing and communal services. which he "shy" for some reason to provide? recourse
                    1. +4
                      17 September 2017 17: 15
                      Quote: analgin
                      Quote: Nikolai Grek

                      if you are not in the course, then "... the Government of the Russian Federation provides for the provision of cash assistance to low-income families. These are mainly single people, pensioners, people with disabilities or large families and low-income families. These are citizens who have a total family income below the subsistence level, established by law, when spending more than 22% of the family budget on utility bills. This threshold mainly depends on the region of residence, in Moscow it is only 10% .... "

                      And what does this have to do with the pension of the DEPARTMENT and its payment for housing and communal services. which he "shy" for some reason to provide? recourse

                      it makes your question meaningless ... hints that all the last money goes to the housing and communal services, they won’t crawl through !! wink laughing laughing
        2. 0
          18 September 2017 16: 43
          Join.
  2. +2
    16 September 2017 09: 53
    I watched a video of NATO exercises in response to our "West." Pure Hollywood. Show Natives what the USA is. Of course, it impressed Dalia Mushroom. Guns shoot, tanks drive. But the main feature of modern exercises is not tanks and guns - which are the FIST. A fist controls the brain. In our actions both in the exercises and in Syria, this is very felt. And the brains of the army are staffers.
  3. 0
    16 September 2017 10: 23
    Thus, the capabilities of aircraft to destroy point targets are not high, and the effectiveness of the use of third-generation aircraft is almost entirely determined by on-board sighting equipment operating according to GLONASS data. In addition, thanks to space, there are no combat losses from fire from the ground. Without space, the picture could have been completely different. It is not very clear how protected this equipment is from the interference of the eventual adversary.
    1. +2
      16 September 2017 21: 30
      Where did these conclusions come from? The VKS were able to turn the tide in two years, because before that, Assad and his allies retreated and it seemed that a strip of coast would remain from the territory in the west, where the Alawites live.
      And they would have managed without Glonass, but the ground-based spotters must have increased significantly. Signal support was provided to Assad's infantry by the turntables, and there the NARs, AB and AP without GLONASS. And their role (vert.) Is very significant. hi
    2. +5
      17 September 2017 16: 22
      Quote: iouris
      Without space, the picture could have been completely different.

      what what what but without gravity the picture could be even worse !!! lol lol lol
  4. +4
    16 September 2017 11: 53
    It is necessary to prepare carefully for warfare in urban conditions, using all the space and features of urban development, to develop new forms and methods of warfare in megacities, the deputy commander of the troops of the Southern Military District summed up.

    Finally, after two storms of Grozny, two of Palmyra and one of Aleppo, the correct conclusions were made. Although all officers studied this in military schools under the Soviet Union.
    If this is not another boltology, we are waiting for concrete results in the form of changes in the combat manual, the General Staff directive on the assault on settlements, etc.
    If this does not happen, then nothing has changed in our army, and the combat experience will be forgotten until the next time.
    1. 0
      16 September 2017 13: 24
      Quote: glory1974
      combat experience will be forgotten

      Life is harsh. If you do not fight constantly, then the next time, maybe it will not. As the poet Heine said: "He alone is worthy of happiness and freedom, who every day goes to fight for them." It is important to understand what happiness is.
    2. +1
      18 September 2017 05: 28
      Hmmm ... It's like a game of chess.

      Novice - only knows the rules of the game and how the pieces go.

      Beginner - is already building some kind of tactics.

      Advanced - knows the basic combinational techniques of the game (double rooks, “double hit”, when one piece attacks the opponent’s piece, opening at the same time a line for the rook or the diagonal for the bishop, which themselves are directed by a blow to another opponent’s piece, etc. etc. .P.)

      Grandmaster - sees the entire board at once and as a whole for several moves forward.

      So it is with combat manuals - it’s not enough just to know and have them, you must still be able to apply them. And it depends on the specific staff officer.
      ----------------
      By the way, the tactics and theory of urban combat were worked out in detail by assault troops during the Great Patriotic War in Stalingrad and Berlin. Another thing is that in peacetime purposefully assault troops and officers are not trained for such operations. There is a theory and practice in schools, but "Talmuds" in the Academy of the General Staff. But urban combat is one of the areas of officer training. And not the most important ...
      1. 0
        18 September 2017 16: 46
        It is like a game of chess.

        I agree. But you need to prepare to "play chess" in peacetime, and not smearing bloody snot during the battle, urgently passing the way from beginner to grandmaster.
        But urban combat is one of the areas of officer training. And not the most important ...

        As experience shows, it has already become the main one, due to developed urbanization.
  5. 0
    16 September 2017 12: 13
    Quote: DEPARTMENT
    Quote: aszzz888
    the experience of warfare in Syria for us is invaluable

    And politically, we have been recognized as a world power! Syria it was a dangerous move for Russia, but still survived .. Kuzkin’s mother was shown to everyone (Caliber, etc.))))! But with Ukraine it’s more difficult ..
    PS Maybe we’ll test the newest Armata tank near the Israeli border, let it look at the Merkava with its radiation .. bully

    Quote: aszzz888
    DEPARTMENT ... PS Maybe we’ll test the newest Armata tank near the Israeli border, let it look at the Merkava with its radiation ..

    ... so, and what to equate the chariot with our novoy is definitely “Armata” MANY times better - here even the grandmother, the Israeli, don’t go ...

    It is unlikely . Combining TBMP and MBT in one bottle is worth a lot. The platform of Almaty provides for the separation of functions, and the Chariot is not weaker in terms of security. And the application experience .........
    1. +1
      16 September 2017 13: 59
      Quote: Essex62
      and what to equate the chariot with our novoy - definitely "Armata" is at times better - here even to the grandmother, the Israeli, do not go ...

      That's exactly what is new - one thing pokatushki on the training ground, and another - tests on the battlefield .... And then from the couch already made out and appreciated ... soldier T-34 also did not immediately get rid of "childhood diseases" -
      the war made adjustments, the same with Armata ....
  6. +1
    16 September 2017 19: 20
    GOOD theoretically meaningful operation, good analysis
  7. +1
    17 September 2017 07: 25
    On the map. Northern flank. Less than half a kilometer in 25 days! Is this a mistake, or what are they doing there? Everyone else is 650m per night.
  8. 0
    17 September 2017 09: 34
    Even about BMPT did not say anything.
  9. 0
    17 September 2017 19: 08
    Quote: analgin
    Quote: Nikolai Grek

    if you are not in the course, then "... the Government of the Russian Federation provides for the provision of cash assistance to low-income families. These are mainly single people, pensioners, people with disabilities or large families and low-income families. These are citizens who have a total family income below the subsistence level, established by law, when spending more than 22% of the family budget on utility bills. This threshold mainly depends on the region of residence, in Moscow it is only 10% .... "

    And what does this have to do with the pension of the DEPARTMENT and its payment for housing and communal services. which he "shy" for some reason to provide? recourse

    I’ve lost direct peace, I’m worried if you finally found out the size of the “Department” pension. Unfortunately I can’t help,
    I won’t have a pension, I don’t recognize her size, but I can give out other sizes, maybe it’s easier, but without photos, or acclimatization, herpes jumped up.
  10. 0
    18 September 2017 06: 37
    Several years ago there were publications that the Israeli Merkava tank served as a conceptual model for the new tank.
    The location of the engine compartment in front of the tank, as well as the crew compartment in the form of a separate armored capsule, was first proposed by the designers of the Israeli Merkava tank.
    http://inosmi.ru/world/20120927/199899234.html
  11. 0
    20 September 2017 10: 28
    Well done, our sun,

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“Non-profit organizations, unregistered public associations or individuals performing the functions of a foreign agent,” as well as media outlets performing the functions of a foreign agent: “Medusa”; "Voice of America"; "Realities"; "Present time"; "Radio Freedom"; Ponomarev; Savitskaya; Markelov; Kamalyagin; Apakhonchich; Makarevich; Dud; Gordon; Zhdanov; Medvedev; Fedorov; "Owl"; "Alliance of Doctors"; "RKK" "Levada Center"; "Memorial"; "Voice"; "Person and law"; "Rain"; "Mediazone"; "Deutsche Welle"; QMS "Caucasian Knot"; "Insider"; "New Newspaper"