Boleslav II the Bold and Izyaslav Yaroslavich against Kiev

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After the death of Yaroslav the Wise, the Kiev table was received by Izyaslav, a weak and greedy prince. Under the conditions of princely feuds and external threats (the Polovtsy), he and his advisers brought the people to rebellion. Not having the strength to suppress the popular uprising, Izyaslav fled to Poland, counting on the support of Prince Boleslav II the Bold. The Polish prince Boleslav used the exile of Izyaslav to attack Russia and capture Kiev.

Boleslav II the Bold



After the death of Casimir, the throne was occupied by Boleslav II. Poland at that time was dependent on the Second Reich and was in conflict with the Czech Republic. The main task of the Polish prince was to find allies in a possible battle with the empire. Such allies could be Hungary and Russia. Boleslav had strong ties with Russia - he was the son of Dobronega (Mary), apparently the daughter of Vladimir Svyatoslavich, Grand Duke of Kiev. He was married to the daughter of Svyatoslav of Chernigov, Vysheslav. The new great Russian prince Izyaslav Yaroslavich was married to Gertrude, the daughter of the Polish king Mieszko II. Union with Russia was established by his father, Casimir.

It is worth noting that at this time between Russia and Poland there was still no full-fledged conceptual and ideological (Russian idea of ​​truth and justice, life by conscience against the parasitic Western “matrix”) and civilizational conflict along the East-West line, Russian and Western civilizations. The Polish nationality, made up of various Slavic unions of tribes of the superethnos Rus, in language, culture, and even faith (paganism has not yet died), did not differ much from the Russians. Conflicts were “related” in nature - the Polish princes helped one Russian princes against others, the Russian princes helped one part of the Polish elite against another. The Western "matrix", through informational, ideological diversion - the introduction of Christianity, has not yet been crushed by Slavic self-consciousness in Poland. And the Western parasitic slaveholding, feudal system with the transformation of the majority of Poles into slaves-cattle, has not yet won. Poland only became part of Western civilization.

Relying on an alliance with Hungary and Kievan Rus, Boleslav II intervened in the internecine wars in the Czech Republic in 1061, but failed. The Polish-Czech conflict took advantage of the knowledge of the Western Pomerania and refused to recognize its dependence on Poland. Boleslav did not intensify his actions in this direction. Soon, Western Pomerania became part of the state of the Wakey. Then Boleslav actively intervened in the affairs of the Russian state, using the unrest and revolt that began in Kiev.

Boleslav II the Bold and Izyaslav Yaroslavich against Kiev

Boleslav II the Bold

The general situation in Russia

In 1054, the great Kiev Prince Yaroslav Vladimirovich passed away. Kiev received the weakest of the brothers - Izyaslav, the belligerent Svyatoslav - Chernigov, weighed and peaceful, the favorite of his father Vsevolod - Pereyaslavl, Vyacheslav - Smolensk, Igor - Vladimir-Volynsky. It was possible to give the main Kiev table to Svyatoslav or Vsevolod, bypassing Izyaslav, but Yaroslav the Wise considered the main order and asked the brothers to observe the "series", the order of inheritance. The elder, Grand Duke of Kiev, all were obliged to read and obey, like a father. But he also had to take care of the younger ones, to protect them. Yaroslav established a hierarchy of Russian cities and princely thrones. The first in rank is Kiev, the second is Chernigov, the third is Pereyaslavl, the fourth is Smolensk, the fifth is Vladimir-Volynsky. None of the sons remained without inheritance, each received possession according to seniority. But Russia was not divided. The younger princes submitted to the eldest, Kiev, important issues were solved together. Commons were not given to perpetual use. The Grand Duke will die, Chernigov will replace him, and the other princes will move along a kind of “ladder” (ladder) to higher “steps”.

Other cities and lands were not allocated personally, but were attached to the main lands. The right bank of the Dnieper and Turovo-Pinskaya land departed to Kiev. Novgorod directly submitted to the Grand Duke. The two most important centers of Russia, Kiev and Novgorod, which determined the development of the Russian land, should have been in the same hands. The Chernihiv table belonged to Tmutarakan, other advanced outposts of Russia, lands on the Desna and Oka as far as Murom. By Pereyaslavl - the southern line of the fortified towns to Kursk. Also Pereyaslavl added a distant Zalesie - Rostov, Suzdal, Beloozero. The vast Smolensk and Vladimir-Volyn principality did not require “additives”.

At the beginning of the reign of Izyaslav was calm. However, the Kiev boyars-trade elite quickly took advantage of the weakness of the new Grand Duke, his noblemen, who regulated the policies of the Kiev prince in their own interests, tightly fastened. In Kiev, continued grand construction. Recently, Yaroslav expanded the capital to the Yaroslav city, and Izyaslav began to build “Izyaslav city” to please his wife and grandees. They outlined the construction of a new palace, the Dmitrievsky Monastery (the grand duke had the Christian name Dmitry). On the construction, as then, as now it is always possible to warm your hands well, here there was a complete expanse with Koosnyachko’s fellow prisoners. True, there was no extra money, but they were borrowed from Jewish moneylenders who had strong ties with the Kiev elite. The prince paid for the loans with contracts, privileges and privileges. But the money had to be returned. As usual, ordinary people suffered the most. Taxes increased, introduced new taxes. In Kiev, predation and embezzlement flourished - treasury, grandees, boyars, merchants, Greeks, Jewish usurers, tiuns, collecting taxes, grew rich. Nobles and boyars cleaned up the hands of the land and the village. The peasants, who yesterday were free community members, became dependent.

The advisers suggested that the Russian Truth be edited - the laws of Russia. Laws came from ancient times, when there was no slavery and the vast majority of people were free community members. According to the Russian Truth, death was avenged by death. Now they made amendments - the blood feud and the death penalty were abolished, replaced with a money vira (fine). And if the offender can not pay, it can be sold to the same merchants, usurers. It is clear that the rich strata of the population could buy off a crime.

At the same time, the Byzantine influence that had been shaken earlier was restored in church structures. In St. Sophia Cathedral the Greeks prevailed, setting out their relatives in the temples. The Pechersk monastery, which remained a Russian spiritual center, was attacked. The monks even wanted to go to Chernigov, under Svyatoslav's wing, only under the influence of the wife of Grand Duke Gertrude (she feared a repetition of unrest in Russia and war with the pagans, which was in Poland), they were convinced to return. The people of the Greek Christianization responded by preferring pagan rituals and games in the fields and forests. Thus, the socio-economic, religious situation in Kiev heated up.

In the meantime, the situation on the steppe borders of Russia has dramatically worsened. In the steppe was a massacre. In the middle of the 11th century, in the next war, the Cumans-Polovtsi defeated the Torks. And the Pechenegs were weakened by the former wars with the Rus, and a significant part of their clans and tribes went to the Balkans. Torquay piled on the remaining Pechenegs and they threw the Black Sea coast towards their Balkans towards their relatives. On Rus came the horde of Torks. The main city of the Russian southern border system was Pereyaslavl, the lot of Vsevolod Yaroslavich. This prince, though peace-loving, was able to fight. Drove squads and crushed Torks. But behind the torso there was a wave of Polovtsy. In 1055, the Polovtsi appeared at Pereyaslavl. They did not immediately fight. Khan Bolush summoned Vsevolod negotiations. The Polovtsi said that their enemies are Torks, they are not at war with the Russians. They exchanged gifts, made peace and friendship. Later, Vsevolod, after the death of his first wife, married the Polovtsian princess. Relatives of Anna of Polovtsi became loyal allies of Vsevolod.

It is worth knowing that in spite of the image of a nomad, a Mongoloid formed by the means of the media, a short, little black one, on a small horse with a bow and saber, this is a lie. This myth has been created to distort genuine history superethnos rusov, the history of Eurasia. The Kumans, like the Pechenegs before them, the main part of the Khazars, Torks, Berendeys, were not representatives of the Mongoloid race and the Turkic language family. These were the remnants of the ancient Scythian-Sarmatian population of Northern Eurasia, the Great Scythia. In this regard, they were relatives of the Rus-Russian, also the direct heirs of the Great Scythia. In Russia, the cumans were called Polovtsy from the word “chaff”, straw ”- by hair color, these nomads were blue-eyed blondies. No wonder the Russian princes loved to take Polovtsian girls as wives, they were distinguished by their beauty and devotion. The inhabitants of the steppe were close to Russian in spiritual and material culture, appearance.

The myth is the image of a typical steppe nomad, who only does what wanders the steppe with its huge herds, makes forays and robs. The Polovtsi, like the Scythians, had their city-mills, the stakes, although their main economy was developed animal husbandry. Taking into account the military threat that emanated from the steppe, it is clear that the Scythians, and their heirs, the Pechenegs, the Polovtsy, and the “Mongol-Tatars” had a developed military production, which made it possible to arm powerful armies. The “Mongol-Tatars”, who were attributed to the primitive Mongolian ethnos, who had no opportunity to conquer a significant part of Eurasia, were also descendants of the Scythian Rus — blue-eyed, gray-eyed “giants” . Hence the myths and legends of the Turkic ethnic groups about the white-skinned, light-eyed giant ancestors. Only they had an ancient military culture and industrial base, which allowed to create the great empire of Genghis Khan. In a later period, the descendants of the Scythians, the "Mongol-Tatars" partly mixed with the Ugric peoples, the Mongoloids, the Turks, got the Mongoloid look (the genetics of the Mongoloids dominant in relation to the Caucasians), switched to the Turkic languages. The other part of the Polovtsy and the “Mongol-Tatars” organically became part of the Russian superethnos, without causing any serious anthropological and cultural-language changes, since they were all direct descendants of the Scythians, and before them the Aryans.

A fierce war in the steppe went on for several years. From the Volga and the Don retreated all the new tribes of the torques. Skirmishes constantly took place on the Russian border, the heroic outposts interfered with the nomadic detachments, the guard squads of the fortified towns were in constant tension. Separate detachments of torques penetrated into Russian lands, burned and robbed. Russian squads tried to intercept them. Masses of torques, which were squeezed by the Polovtsy, accumulated in the lower reaches of the Dnieper. There was a threat of a major invasion of the Kiev region and Volyn. Russian princes declared a general campaign. In 1060, all of Russia appeared - Kiev, Chernihiv, Pereyaslav squads, came Novgorod, Smolensk and Volyn rati. Even Polotsk prince Vseslav Bryachislavich arrived, who kept himself on his own. The whole flotilla took the infantry. In the first skirmishes of torques scattered. Having learned what kind of force goes to them, the Torquay, not accepting the battle, went further west, to the Danube. The Torkian horde broke into the possession of Byzantium, but here they were met by the Pechenegs who had arrived earlier and defeated them. The Torques were divided, part went into the service of the Byzantine emperor, others returned to the north and offered their services to the Grand Prince of Kiev. Izyaslav settled them on the right bank of the Dnieper, the Torchesk fortress was built here.

However, now between Polovtsy and Rus there was no Torque buffer. Polovtsian raids began. In 1061, in the winter, when no one was waiting for them, the Polovtsi broke through the Russian border defense and smashed the Pereyaslav squad of Prince Vsevolod. He locked himself in a fortress. At the same time there was no total war. Some princes were friends with the Russians, entered into family alliances, others fought, then reconciled, traded. Polovtsi from this time, as before them, the Pechenegs, became active participants in the internal Russian strife. Russian princes actively attracted Polovtsian mercenaries and detachments of their relatives to fight with their rivals.

Strife

Inside Russia there was no unity, as Yaroslav the Wise dreamed. His heirs quickly began to arrange strife. And began the Grand Duke Izyaslav. When the eldest of Yaroslavichi, Vladimir, died before his father, after him his son Rostislav sat in Novgorod to rule. And Novgorod was a gold mine, and an important political center of Russia. The great prince of Kiev, Izyaslav, and his own selfish surroundings began to worry that all of the benefits from owning a great trade city were inherited by his nephew Rostislav, and not by him. Rostislav recalled from Novgorod. Soon Vyacheslav Yaroslavich Smolensky died. The transition began on the ladder. From Vladimir-Volynsky, the fifth in rank of the city, Igor was taken to Smolensk. But he did not reign too long, fell ill and died. Rights to Smolensk received Rostislav. In full accordance with the ladder: when the brothers die, their sons begin to move up the stairs. At first he was the eldest, then the second-oldest, and so on. But Rostislav’s father, Vladimir, was older than Izyaslav. In this scenario, Rostislav was the fourth in line at the Kiev table! This did not suit the Grand Duke, his entourage, and Svyatoslav with Vsevolod. Rostislav walked ahead of the sons of the three main rulers of Russia. As a result, the law "edited." Like, when there was a distribution of inheritances, Vladimir was no longer alive. Therefore, Rostislav falls out of the system of a ladder. The children of the deceased brothers, Vyacheslav and Igor, were thrown out of the stairs. They became rogue princes. Outlaws in Russia called people who had fallen out of their social stratum (for example, peasants who had left the rural community for the city, slaves who were released, etc.). Smolensk and Vladimir-Volyn became the fiefdoms under the direct control of the Grand Duke and his people.

Rostislav was given Vladimir-Volynsky in feeding, but not according to the system of ladder, but from the Grand Duke's “bounty”. It is clear that Rostislav was offended. His father was the heir of Yaroslav the Wise, a favorite of Novgorod. And now his son was just a vassal of the Grand Duke, Izyaslav wanted - he gave Volyn, he wanted - he would take it away, as Novgorod had taken. And the descendants of Rostislav will not be able to climb the stairs, they will not be able to get Pereyaslavl, Chernigov and Kiev. Then Rostislav made a strong move - made an alliance with Hungary, married the daughter of the Hungarian ruler Bela. With such a father-in-law, the Volyn prince became independent from Kiev. However, in 1063, his patron Bela died. Alone Volyn was not to hold. The decisive and enterprising prince came up with one more move - he suddenly occupied Tmutarakan, which belonged to the Chernigov prince. Here he began to plan a trip to Chersonese or other Byzantine possessions. But the Greeks preventively poisoned the Russian prince.

Immediately began a new distemper. She began the independent prince of Polotsk Vseslav of Polotsk (Vseslav the Prophet or the Sorcerer), who was considered a sorcerer and a werewolf. Polotsk has long concealed a grudge against Kiev. When Rostislav brewed porridge in the south, the Polotsk prince decided that a big war would begin, the Yaroslavich brothers would be busy and would not be able to react to his actions. He tried to take Pskov, but there they managed to shut up. Vseslav rushed to Novgorod. There the attacks did not wait, and the Vseslav warriors robbed the rich city well. Vseslav even robbed the Hagia Sophia. The brothers Yaroslavichi - Izyaslav, Svyatoslav and Vsevolod, in 1067, responded with a trip to Minsk. The city was taken by storm, the defenders killed. The townspeople were sent to slavery, Minsk burned.

It is worth noting that because of the mistakes of the rulers, ordinary people always suffer, as then, as now. Russian soldiers from the Polotsk land quietly plundered Novgorod. The Russian army of Yaroslavichi stormed the Russian city of Minsk, burnt it. Residents sold into slavery. Currently no better. Russians, some of whom consider themselves “Ukrainians,” quietly shoot the Russian cities of Donetsk and Lugansk. Therefore, the ideal form of government for Russia is an empire with a strong central authority. When energy is directed to external frontiers, most ordinary people live in safety.

While Minsk was still fighting, Vseslav Bryachislavich wasted no time collecting the Polotsk rati. In March 1067, the two armies converged on the Nemige River. The troops of the 7 days stood against each other in deep snow. Finally, Vseslav of Polotsk began a full-moon attack, and many warriors fell on both sides. The battle is described in the Word about the regiment of Igor: "... on Nemiga, sheaves are spread from the heads, beat with damasks, they put life on the current, blow the soul out of the body ...". The battle has become one of the largest and bitter internecine battles in Russia. Vseslav's troops were defeated. The prince himself was able to escape. Polotsk land was subjected to ruin. Many people were captured and sold to usurers slavers.

After 4 a month after the battle, Yaroslavlichi called Vseslav to negotiations, kissed the cross and promised safety, but they broke their promise - they grabbed together with two sons, took them to Kiev and imprisoned them. At the same time the Greek clergy supported the Grand Duke. For Byzantium, betrayal was commonplace.


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  1. +4
    15 September 2017 07: 30
    Again about the matrix and the rest ...
    1. +1
      15 September 2017 11: 29
      It's just that this topic is still relevant, especially now, for example, watch the TV programs themselves and see for yourself on this. The information in the article today is clearly not superfluous and obviously can be useful to someone.
  2. +5
    15 September 2017 07: 48
    The insertion of the author’s ideological stamps in the text reduces its value to zero.
    1. +5
      15 September 2017 08: 23
      And if you remove the ideology of the inadequate, then these classified materials with the signature stamp “X” (kalibr came up with a very precise definition, and it’s nice and censorship to hear) no one will publish at all. I wonder where the author rewrote this "X"? Let's hope that someone will discover the original source of hidden knowledge.
      1. +1
        15 September 2017 12: 27
        Otherwise, it is cool reading on a historical theme. Not all monographs to read.
    2. 0
      15 September 2017 09: 06
      Quote: Ken71
      The insertion of the author’s ideological stamps in the text reduces its value to zero.

      History is always an ideology from the first letter to the last point. History is written by the woman in power for the sake of that power. In addition, of the general means of controlling humanity, history in its power of influence on society is in second place:
      "The second priority is chronological
      “Look back often for backsides to avoid notable mistakes in the future.” Kozma Prutkov.
      It is known that a person who has forgotten his history, the history of his Fatherland is like a tree that has lost its roots. And what will happen if an entire nation forgets its history or believes in some historical myth imposed on it taking into account the interests of external hostile forces? George Orwell once wrote: "He who rules the past rules the future; he who rules the present rules the past." Rewriting the history of a people inevitably leads to a change in its future. That is why the advent of the new government is always accompanied by a rewriting of history, but at the same time, the rulers themselves do not understand how they are used in the dark. This is very clearly manifested today in the former Soviet republics, split from the USSR. Therefore, you must always remember that history never teaches anything, it only punishes for ignorance of their lessons "
      1. +2
        15 September 2017 12: 29
        In short. They are bad, we are good and always have been. Good for agitators. For those who study history, this approach is not interesting. Events of their background are interesting, the role of personalities in these events.
        1. 0
          15 September 2017 13: 16
          Quote: Ken71
          In short. They are bad, we are good and always have been.

          History is always a conversation about the future. With what colors we draw the past - so will our future.
  3. +6
    15 September 2017 07: 54
    Holy Roman Empire The First Reich (German: Altes Reich - “Ancient Reich”) - The Holy Roman Empire of the German nation (962-1806)
    German Empire Second Reich (German: Zweites Reich) - Kaiser Germany (1871-1918)
    And then what? The discovery of Mr. Samsonov? The opening of the letter "x" is such a discovery ... that is, they mow down a very mysterious character. "Secret", so to speak materials. And again, this superethnos and slaves in the West. Oh, open the “Russian Truth” and everything is written there, all categories of dependent population and to whom and how much to pay for each. 0 differences with Ripuar truth and Salic. But there are slaves, but we do not have them. Cool, very cool!
    1. +4
      15 September 2017 11: 35
      But there are slaves, but we do not have them.

      remember the Soviet anti-Western argument: "and you have blacks lynched"! laughing
      1. +3
        15 September 2017 12: 30
        Answer. And your engineer earns one hundred rubles.
        1. +3
          15 September 2017 12: 31
          logical! hi however, one hundred rubles then, at the very least, one could live ... request
    2. +3
      15 September 2017 14: 48
      Gumilev, poor fellow, is turning in a coffin, it’s necessary to pervert such a good idea!
    3. +6
      15 September 2017 16: 08
      Quote: kalibr
      And again, this superethnos and slaves in the West.

      Someone, I don’t remember now, unfortunately, on this site I already suggested publishing Samsonov’s articles in the section “Opinions”, and not “History”. I have to agree with this. Given the fertility of the author, I would also suggest that the site administration select it in a separate column, such as Samsonov’s Opinion. I would go there on occasion - to giggle and, perhaps in the mood, to dive with some adherent of his teachings.
      And to publish THIS in the history section is to consciously and purposefully build a reputation in honest science as a "woman with low social responsibility," ready to surrender to anyone, even such an odious character like Samsonov.
      And so already history does not consider history as science, the same Boris55
      Quote: Boris55
      History is always an ideology from the first letter to the last point.
      , I had discussions on this topic with other users.
      It has long been proposed to organize a column of humor at VO, I am behind both hands, and the Samsonov’s opinion section is more appropriate there than here.
      Administration, why does the censorship not skip the normal word "sorry. Tutka"?
      1. +1
        15 September 2017 16: 44
        Quote: Luga
        .. on this site has already offered to publish Samsonov’s articles in the section “Opinions”, and not “History”. .. given the fertility of the author, I would suggest the site administration highlight it in a separate column, such as "Samsonov’s Opinion"

        Good offer! Only a hundred to do with the prolific author V. Shpakovsky? After all, he doesn’t have an article that is entirely fiction of Western specials. services. See: yesterday, an Israeli "Warrior" issued information that: "Holy Roman Empire First Reich (German: Altes Reich - "Ancient Reich") - Holy Roman Empire German nation (962-1806)"- this is necessary, on the original Russian lands a millennium before the appearance of the first" German "state, there is already a phantom out of nowhere"german nation"and this despite the fact that the very concept of" nation "appeared only in the 16th century, and that term was drawn to the Holy Roman Empire in the year 1512, and no writtenGerman"or there"German"language until then (until the 16th century) basically did not exist, they wrote either in Russian or in the southern dialect of Russian - Latin. And what we see today: Shpakovsky (" kalibr ") reprints this completely false bullshit. Therefore then all of his articles should be transferred to the heading “Incredible bullshit”, or any other similar name. But Samsonov well done, does not succumb to the countless provocations of the enemies of Russia, under which nickname or name they would not be published. Vivat Samsonova!
        1. +3
          15 September 2017 19: 45
          Well, what to do with Shpakovsky? Let's hang it, knock out a stool for the championship - the crowd will gather
          1. +2
            15 September 2017 21: 52
            I’ll intercede for him. I remember too well his publications on tanks in 90 ...
            1. +1
              15 September 2017 22: 01
              on the Internet there is a whole binder of "Tankmaster". Yes read - do not re-read. The question is also that Vyacheslav Olegovich was one of the first to inform about the mass reader, enthusiastic about armored vehicles. Prior to this, I suspect the most popular publication was the Technique of Youth. request If I’m not mistaken, even the late Svirin (the kingdom of heaven to him) wrote articles for Tankomaster. hi
              1. +1
                15 September 2017 22: 06
                oh, you’re not mistaken ... therefore, I will defend Shpakovsky dear for the past services to the community of modellers of standers ... although many people here hold me in the Communists ...
                1. +3
                  15 September 2017 22: 20
                  although many here in the communists keep me

                  The doctor is also a communist, so what? It is not a matter of what a person professes, but what kind of person he is. Clever, benevolent - what difference does it make me, a communist or a liberal, if he is not seen in anti-Russian sentiments. hi
          2. +3
            15 September 2017 21: 53
            Let's hang it, knock out a stool for the championship - the crowd will gather

            the gathered crowd will consist of possessed cheers-patriots, cheers-communists and cheers-fans of alternative history, and other supporters of mass executions, just will not jump with joy with different chants. fellow Although ... the devil knows them! what Kurios will hang out next to Shpakovsky, he will be beaten by a stool personally by Venya with a wild cry: "Get it, wise guy who doesn't believe that the ancient Slavs ate Cook!" laughing Then the commander-in-chief will come (to not negotiate anyone) and shoot the others .. request will start with the Monarchist (he is to blame with such a nickname!), then I (I’ll be cut off my tongue first), then the Doctor (just like that, just in case - I knew a lot wink ) .. You, Anton, will not be shot (for now, nothing), but they’ll put a belt on the fifth point! stop for proforma, for not figs request
            Administration, why does the censorship not skip the normal word "sorry. Tutka"?

            I will support the esteemed Luga. soldier The word is common and literary. I think that it should be skipped, but if it is used in relation to someone from the same forum, this is the work of moderators. hi
            1. +2
              15 September 2017 22: 09
              you forgot to mention one more category ... they will knock out a stool from under Shpakovsky only for their last name ..... Anton, they won’t shoot you (for no reason), but they’ll put a belt on the fifth point! - Tell me too .. he doesn’t believe in haplogroup !!! heretic’s bonfire !!! am
              1. +2
                15 September 2017 22: 34
                you forgot to mention another category .. they will knock out a stool from under Shpakovsky only for the last name .....

                they mostly hang out on the “news” and “opinions”. Yes
            2. +1
              15 September 2017 22: 10
              Dust swallow dust! I am not white and fluffy. I ... well, say, a flower on the pavement.
              1. +2
                15 September 2017 22: 31
                a lone hero against a mob of sectarian rocker cannibals? wink all in the framework of the classic action movie of the 80s! Punch with a gold notch ... winked class! good drinks and after that, the head hero is firmly and thoroughly making love to his half! fellow
                1. +2
                  15 September 2017 22: 50
                  standing on a heap of defeated enemies and at the same time beating off adversary’s ballistic missiles ..
                  1. +2
                    15 September 2017 22: 58
                    yes, yes, yes, so mustache and bulo! Yes drinks
                2. +2
                  16 September 2017 06: 54
                  "No guys, I won’t give you a punch"
                  1. +1
                    17 September 2017 15: 10
                    Greedy! drinks although .. we’re not asking for the main hero. request We are so, "cockerel cockerel" (N.V. Gogol), the runner-ups will run after you "with shovels and forks" (V.S. Vysotsky). It’s a pity, directed by George Romero (the kingdom to him be heaven! soldier ) died, so there would be a plot for a new zombie action movie! laughing drinks
                    1. +2
                      17 September 2017 15: 47
                      Enough for a screwdriver. You come to the “beloved” author, you put a “shurik” with a milling cutter in the cartridge to the system engineer and insinuatingly, in the voice of Dzhigurda: “Do you forget to take the pills? Not good ....”
                      These are the hobbits we are evil
                      (Source of inspiration: film strip)
                      1. +2
                        17 September 2017 16: 00
                        These are the hobbits we are evil

                        You are already quite drawn to the orc. Evil orc drinks
                        There is another catchphrase: "With a good word and a gun you can achieve much more than just a good word"(Al Capone). good in your case - with a screwdriver. soldier
        2. +4
          15 September 2017 19: 57
          Quote: venaya
          this is necessary, on the primordially Russian lands a millennium before the appearance of the first "German" state

          Well, I already realized that all of your more or less significant successes in humanity are irrefutable proof of the existence of the "Russian supeetnos." You are probably one of those who are convinced that the first person to raise a stick above his head said in pure Russian the first words on our planet: "Wow, what a stick I have!" He was the first to hit the head of a person who does not speak Russian with this stick (the future Jew, most likely), opened the first fire, wrote the first letters on the planet with coal (Russian, of course), and then put the stick into the wheel and it was all about 300 million years ago.
          I have almost accepted your point of view, but what I disagree with is that the word "Germany" comes from "Herr", which in your opinion means a military leader or something like that. It is quite obvious that the “German” is a distorted Russian “Herman” and can only mean a person with a large reproductive organ, well, man, who constantly rummages around. Here, as a result of the fact that this, without exaggeration, Russian man is a Herman, he lurked like that and the first “Germans" appeared - his descendants. Still, how can one argue with this?
          You and I have a few more minor disagreements regarding the story, but I will continue to write about them in the mood as I read your next message.
          1. +4
            15 September 2017 20: 05
            I want to warn you that such verbal exertions addressed not by the night of the mentioned individual ended for me with two bans. Therefore, as you feel that your eloquence has sharpened to the limit - drop it.
            1. +5
              15 September 2017 20: 49
              The fact that you were banned does not mean that you need to drop everything.
              1. +2
                15 September 2017 21: 50
                And you are severe with the classics of the ban!
              2. +2
                15 September 2017 21: 55
                The fact that you were banned does not mean that you need to drop everything.

                absolutely right. hi drinks
          2. +2
            15 September 2017 20: 58
            Michael, talk to Marat!
            1. +3
              15 September 2017 22: 03
              and do not communicate with Veny. Banned, do not go to the grandmother. drinks
        3. +4
          15 September 2017 20: 42
          You would be nice man first thought of yourself. On your comments, you can also safely put the stamp "X". And not a gentleman called venaya. Is it really not enough for the mind itself to choose the more harmonious name Benjamin. Better yet, Rev. Benjamin.
          1. +1
            15 September 2017 21: 01
            I just remembered you!
          2. +1
            16 September 2017 14: 31
            Quote: mar 404
            .. not a gentleman called venaya ..

            Yes, the Russian Goddess Mara is precisely the goddess of death, and the index "404" clearly indicates the Svidomo of the owner of this nickname. But about the nickname "venaya", so maybe you should look at what our country and people are called, for example, in Finland. I look at the "Svidomo" knowledge of languages ​​and even the name of both the country of Russia and its people living in other languages ​​causes undisguised hatred, which is understandable from all points of view.
            1. +1
              16 September 2017 17: 39
              Cool, only I'm male. Svidomo Mara (goddess of death) = Angel of death = Gabriel (Svidomo horror, flying on the wings of the night, and taking away the souls of the unfortunate Wends). Let's just be Gabriel. Svidomo Gabriel = Gavrilyuk. There is such a picture even. Art historians, as usual, hide it. Here she is. The ghoul rests after drinking the blood of Vendian babies.
      2. +3
        15 September 2017 18: 29
        column friday night? drinks drinks
        1. +2
          15 September 2017 20: 43
          Not that word! In the morning! Haloperidol - into the hall!
  4. +1
    15 September 2017 09: 41
    The Türkic-speaking Pechenegs, Torques, Polovtsy, Avars (unlike the Mongols) were mestizos - a mixture of Northern Semites (residents of Central Asia and Kazakhstan) and the Mongols (residents of Central Asia). The Europoid component (the legacy of the Avestan and Rigveda Aryans and earlier nomadic Celts) they had less than 10%.

    For more than a thousand years, the Turks completely assimilated the indigenous people of Kazakhstan and Central Asia - Iranian-speaking Saks, Sarmatians and Scythians, ethnically belonging to the Northern Semites with a small share of the Aryan component.

    An exception to this rule was the three Central Asian tribes - Tatars (40% of the Aryan component), Bashkirs (40% of the Celtic component) and Kyrgyz (55% of the Aryan component). But the phenotype (appearance) of the representatives of these tribes was Mongoloid - slanting eyes, flat faces. black hair and dark eyes.

    So the Turkic brides of the Russian princes were an amateur bully
    1. +1
      15 September 2017 11: 24
      Quote: Operator
      .. Turks completely assimilated the indigenous people of Kazakhstan and Central Asia - Iranian-speaking Saks, Sarmatians and Scythians, ethnically belonging to the Northern Semites with a small share of the Aryan component. .. Turkic brides Russian princes ..

      I constantly hear about some "Turks", Who are they? I know the languages ​​of the Turkic language group, the founders of which were ErBins of the genus "R1b" 16 thousand years old based in the south of the Ural Mountains and present Northern Kazakhstan. Their ethnic origin is absolutely equal to the origin of the Rus, the ancient Rus (light brown people). So in this world, who are the "Türks? I understand the concept"арii "(farmers), they dug арTales that ennoble agrарAI, that is, engaged in cutting rough dug арykov. By the way in antiquity арMyan (not to be confused with modern, strongly altered) territorially included in the ancient Aryan empire Persov (First Russia, 36% of the root words coincide with modern Russian, which exactly corresponds to the 4-thousand-year divergence of languages). As for the "Northern Semites", I have not found the dominants of this ethnos anywhere, they are even present in northwestern China, but there are still Russian genetics (Mogul-Scythian Rus, etc.) of the genera "P", "R1a "and even" R1a1 ", descendants of the haplotype" Z 93 "and similar, is dominant. So your remarks in every sense more than surprise me. Try to be more accurate in the descriptions on this topic, because the Internet is specially crap on this subject so that "Mom Do not Cry", do not add extra fog here, because accuracy in such matters cannot be unnecessary.
      1. 0
        15 September 2017 11: 45
        The Türks are the Mongol-speaking peoples of Asia of various genetic origin, at the moment they include:
        - Tungus (ancestors of the Mongols, carriers of the Mongolian С2);
        - Mongols (C2 carriers);
        - Kazakhs (40% of C2 carriers);
        - Tatars, assimilated arias (40% Aryan R1a, 30% С2);
        - Bashkirs, assimilated Celts (40% Celtic R1b, 30% С2);
        - Kyrgyz, assimilated arias (55% R1a, 25% C2);
        - Turkmens, assimilated Celts (60% R1b, 20% C2);
        - Uzbeks, assimilated northern Semites (25% Semitic J2, 25% C2);
        - Azerbaijanis, assimilated northern Semites (50% J2, 20% C2);
        - Turks, assimilated northern Semites (30% J2, 20% С2);
        - Yakuts, assimilated ugrofin (90% Ugrophin N1c1, 5% C2);
        etc.

        The Türkic-speaking peoples - the Northern Semites assimilated by the Mongols (Pechenegs, Polovtsy, Avars, Torques, Khazars, etc.), who roamed in the Black Sea steppes in the first millennium of our era, were almost completely replaced by Russians in the second millennium of our era. Their modern descendants are Crimean Tatars, mestizos with a predominance of the North Semitic haplogroup J2.

        The native language of the Celts is the Basque language (over 80% of carriers of R1b).
        1. +1
          15 September 2017 17: 33
          Quote: Operator
          Turki - Mongolian Asian peoples of various genetic origin:
          - Tungus (ancestors of the Mongol, carriers of the Mongol C2) ..

          Yes, the amount of misinformation that you manage to fish out of the "Internet" is impressive. For an example: it is necessary to guess the Turkic-speaking tribes to call "Mongolian“Yes, in modern Mongolia, they speak their native Mongolian language of the hulk tribes and relatives. There is no connection with the languages ​​of the Turkic language group, because they came from the south, from Oceania, and not from Siberia, where the Tungus now began to live, obviously not the ancestors of the “Mongol.” Information about the Tatars is also noteworthy, if we mean the Volga Tatars, the former Volga b (c) Ulgar (Volgars), then there is a uniform distribution of haplogroups N1c1, R1b1 and R1a1 all at 20%, though the language of the really Turkic group The remark about the Avar tribe is also interesting, they left a memory of themselves in the form of Bavarian lands and the language of the Hungarians, the Ugrophanic language of the Ural subgroup of the genus N1c1 characteristic of the tribes, like the Khanty and Mansi, though they themselves (ugrophins) did not remain there at all. turn off the term "Celts" from his vocabulary, here on the site was a wonderful article by Shpakovsky about Celts, from which we can make an unambiguous conclusion that at first the Celts simply called the Rus "R1a1", in the following section pouring them on the falcon (Slavs in modern times) of the "Germans" - a lot of confusion came from here. And the Basques, because they are from Africa, with genetics of the originally South Ural tribe, by no means the “Celts” who came from the east. I can not describe all the confusion in any way, since it is simply indescribable. try not to use the site from where you dug it all up anymore, because here on the site in the comments of the "history" section there are a lot of lies, so it’s not worth adding, and it’s difficult to breathe out from this lie.
          1. 0
            15 September 2017 18: 23
            Venaya
            In the wilds, Ineta found out something interesting in Bavaria. A man of our blood at the Expo exhibition in 1968 read in the information booklet where the name of this land came from: the Roman emperor sent a commander named Bavar to those lands to organize interaction with the Armenian tribesmen who lived there.
            ... After our man showed interest in the primary sources on this issue, both booklets were seized and access to the archives was closed.
          2. 0
            15 September 2017 20: 08
            Quote: venaya
            if we mean the Volga Tatars, the former Volga b (c) Ulgar (Volgars), then there is a uniform distribution of the haplogroups N1c1, R1b1 and R1a1 all in 20%

            The Volga Tatars are equally divided between the Aryan R1a and the Ugro-Finnish N1c1 - from 30 to 40%, the Celtic R1b - less than 5%



            You will use Yandex in the future before you grind rubbish - they say it helps.
            1. +1
              16 September 2017 13: 53
              Quote: Operator
              before nonsense grind, use Yandex - they say it helps

              Sorry, Yandex - is that a surname like that? I believe that individual responsibility should not be replaced by collective irresponsibility. By the way, take a closer look at your own posts, see:
              Quote: Operator
              - Tatars, assimilated arias (40% Aryan R1a, 30% С2);

              You yourself then realized that messed up? What other Mongols of the "C2" genus did the Volga Tatars (Bulgars) have published - not me, so this is your rubbish and not mine. In the future, you already have for the Tatars: "Ugro-Finnish N1c1 - from 30 to 40%"- and again I, and you publish that which is closer to the truth, but not absolute truth, it all depends on the source used. Please be careful and unlearn the bad habit of insulting people, and also check your posts before publishing, and it’s really from your published nonsense that your ears wilt, remember that many people read you, and I consider it my duty to correct and correct other people's mistakes.
  5. +3
    15 September 2017 09: 41
    probably the main thing that came out of the article
    Therefore, the ideal form of government for Russia is an empire with a strong central authority

    this form was ineffective and the feuds being continued are continuing.
  6. +2
    15 September 2017 10: 53
    (Russian idea of ​​truth and justice, living conscience against the parasitic Western “matrix”)
    You can not read further.
    1. +1
      15 September 2017 11: 07
      Quote: Anglorussian
      You can not read further.

      The Anglo-Saxons do not understand this. Living conscience is not about you.
      1. +2
        15 September 2017 11: 11
        It is here that people are told that there is no money, but you still have to hold on? This is the Anglo-Saxons talking about patriotism, taking the family abroad (And for the money, many times exceeding legal income?). Have Anglo-Saxons made it to the wives and sons of young officials to become business tycoons? Yes, it’s not clear Yes .
        1. 0
          15 September 2017 11: 15
          Quote: Anglorussian
          It is here that people are told that there is no money, but you still have to hold on? Is it the Anglo-Saxons say patriotism, taking the family abroad?

          I'm not talking about the healers of Western values ​​with Anglo-Saxon brains temporarily residing in Russia. I'm talking about Russian and having a conscience.
          1. +1
            15 September 2017 11: 16
            And what are they doing with this conscience?
            1. 0
              15 September 2017 11: 17
              Quote: Anglorussian
              And what are they doing with this conscience?

              Well, that's what I was talking about, the concept of conscience and what the Anglo-Saxons do with it. laughing
              Conscience is one of the instruments of God that govern us in the direction of our providence. Lack of conscience is a loss of connection with God.
              1. +2
                15 September 2017 11: 27
                Have you ever assumed that it simply does not exist? And what, the Russian open spaces in the heavenly office wrote off as living space? (These lands were an empire annexed. Sinful death toll). Besides the fact that with the Russians God, are there any more arguments?
                1. 0
                  15 September 2017 11: 53
                  Quote: Anglorussian
                  Have you ever assumed that it simply does not exist?

                  In the biblical concept, when the clergy 325 years after the death of the prophet Jesus, after two months of heated discussion, by a simple vote with two abstentions elevated him to the rank of God? Are you talking about him?
                  Quote: Anglorussian
                  these lands were an empire annexed. Sinful Killing

                  I agree with this, but it happened after our priesthood had curled up and personal benefits prevailed among them over common goods. After that, they ceased to be Russian.
                  Quote: Anglorussian
                  Besides the fact that with the Russians God, are there any more arguments?

                  God with all those who live in conscience, whether Russian or non-Russian, does not matter. All of them are in line with His providence.
                  1. +1
                    15 September 2017 12: 16
                    I have heard these tales and arguments many times. How did the Russian Power differ from the British?
                    1. +1
                      15 September 2017 13: 21
                      Quote: Anglorussian
                      How did the Russian Power differ from the British?

                      Britain owes its comfortable coexistence to the merciless robbery of peoples in its colonies. Russia, wherever it goes, raises the standard of living of Aboriginal people to its own.
                      1. +1
                        15 September 2017 13: 38
                        In Hong Kong, Singapore, the standard of living in Britain. Where are the robbed natives? In Rhodesia and South Africa, until the beginning of the game of democracy, the natives also lived well.
  7. +2
    15 September 2017 13: 50
    Anglorussian,
    in Hong Kong and Singapore, there are two tiny points on the map ... and you take some sort of Sudan or the same Yemen .. how is prosperity there? Rhodesia is a unique formation. They themselves were separated from Britain and this white population made it hard pressed. until they finished. and it was the Britons who pressed it. and in South Africa it’s not the Angles either. there the way of life was formed before them by the Boers, the British just built into the system, much less it suited them ..
  8. +3
    15 September 2017 14: 07
    .. there was still no full-fledged conceptual and ideological (Russian idea of ​​truth and justice, life in conscience against the parasitic Western “matrix”) and civilization conflict along the East - West line,

    Ek, as bent over, sickly laughing Immediately visible person with large spiritual bonds
    This myth was created to distort the true history of the superethnos of the Rus, the history of Eurasia.

    The world behind the scenes is probably to blame ...
  9. 0
    15 September 2017 14: 50
    Quote: Anglorussian
    In Hong Kong, Singapore, the standard of living in Britain. Where are the robbed natives? In Rhodesia and South Africa, until the beginning of the game of democracy, the natives also lived well.

    Famous photograph of Australian Aborigines - convicts.

    1910-th British national with natives caught

    And such photos in the internet sea.
    From the history of the enlightened West.

    "... England continued to transport tens of thousands of enslaved Irish for over a century. According to evidence, after the Irish uprising in 1798, thousands of captured Irish were sold to both America and Australia ..." http://fishki.net/anti / Xnumx-iz-istorii-prosvew
    ennogo-zapada-anglichane-massovo-sparivali-deshev
    yh-irlandskih-rabyn-s-dorogimi.html
    And such information on the Internet is the same sea.
  10. +2
    15 September 2017 17: 21
    I look forward to continuing, because these are the origins of our relations with Poland.
    In fact, both Poles and Russians (at that time there were no divisions: Ukrainians, Russians, Belarus) then there was one root, but so far the will, or rather the "bad uncles" split the once united people.
    Perhaps the strife could have been avoided if Izyaslav had the will, otherwise the weak-willed and obscure ruler- DREAM for PROKHINDEYS, in this case the feudal lords, as a result of the hopes of Yaroslav the Wise did not materialize. If the prokhendii from the Kiev elite did not play as Izyaslav as a puppet, our story would go in a completely different way
    1. +3
      15 September 2017 18: 16
      Monarchist! Do you seriously consider this fantasy a description of historical events? O sancta simplicitas!
      Well then, Tolkien is a historian.
      1. +3
        15 September 2017 18: 32
        whom to appoint the role of goblins and orcs? elves it seems to be clear who ....
        1. +4
          15 September 2017 18: 43
          If the performer of the role of elves does not raise any doubts, then applicants for the role of orcs and goblins have no numbers. I'm afraid that they will have to change, so that all worthy could be in this unsightly form.
          1. +3
            15 September 2017 20: 19
            Quote: Curious
            there is no doubt that the performer of the role of elves

            I envy you, everything is clear to you ... recourse
            And here I am confused.
            According to Tolkien, elves live in the West, come from the West, from the land of the gods. And in the east all evil spirits live, such as orcs with Sauron at the head.
            According to Samsonov, evil spirits live in the west and Sauron there is not one or two, but in the east - light forces led by the superethnos.
            Whom to believe? request
            1. +4
              15 September 2017 20: 34
              The assumption that Tolkien was poorly guided by the compass immediately resolves all your contradictions. Then, elves could have their own names of cardinal points. This is not essential. The main thing is to defeat the forces of darkness, looking with lust at the matrix.
              Regarding the Saurons ... Tolkien, and so it is spilled into three volumes. Therefore, he represented all the Saurons in the collective image of Sauron. Creative fiction (or design?). If he described them all, we would still read his multi-volume.
              1. +2
                15 September 2017 22: 08
                Quote: Curious
                The assumption that Tolkien was poorly guided by the compass immediately resolves all your contradictions

                That's right, philologist, what to take from him? By the way, we should check Samsonov on a compass smile
                Quote: Curious
                Tolkien had spilled it into three volumes.

                Much more, if you mean only the Lord of the Rings. About 25-30 years ago, I reread all this and it seemed a little ... Although even then there was an understanding that the parallels Europe - Middle-earth, Moscow - Barad-Dur, Stalin - Sauron and the Outlying West - the USA are not just the fruit of my sick imagination. smile
              2. +1
                15 September 2017 22: 09
                The assumption that Tolkien was poorly guided by the compass immediately resolves all your contradictions.

                there is an interesting fact. The place where the Evil rules, at Tolkien was originally called Itil, Itil land, located behind a large river. The Volga used to be called Itil. what If you compare the map of Middle-earth (excluding mountains), perhaps .. Golden Horde? with golden-headed orcs? request
                Regarding the Saurons ...

                Sauron for the possessed - Shpakovsky (absolute evil). fellow You are Saruman. Yes Clever, cunning, seemingly, leading a common policy with Sauron, but quietly blowing into his pipe. wink drinks
                1. +2
                  15 September 2017 22: 15
                  Special thanks for the clever back with a pipe. It is always nice to learn something new about yourself.
                  1. +2
                    15 September 2017 22: 27
                    you're welcome hi laughing Who wrote a series of articles about the Mosin, its own separate study? good who operates with the information of Aki Saruman (though without a magic ball, but who knows what you have in the apartment on the mezzanine)? what who is the eternal opponent of the "light elves" and their Rev.? drinks
                    1. +2
                      15 September 2017 22: 33
                      By the way, after that - I can’t catch anything at all. How many times was taken, and interesting topics - nifiga. Enchanted, or what?
                      1. +1
                        15 September 2017 22: 36
                        everything has its time stop "Muse will visit", and write in one breath! love
                2. +4
                  15 September 2017 22: 37
                  Quote: Mikado
                  The place where Evil rules is, in Tolkien it was originally called Itil, Itil land, located behind a large river. The Volga used to be called Itil.

                  Itil, it seems, the Khazars had a capital. And the Volga is translated as "pure water" (from what language - I don’t remember, at least kill slowly). sad
                  1. +2
                    15 September 2017 22: 42
                    Itil, it seems, the Khazars had the capital

                    for sure .. belay I completely forgot, even though I read Gumilyov without stopping! love given the Khazar religion, it turns out .. Tolkien was an inveterate anti-Semite? request drinks
                    1. +3
                      15 September 2017 22: 57
                      Quote: Mikado
                      Was Tolkien an inveterate anti-Semite?

                      With our reasoning, wherever the curve can take it. wink drinks
                      1. +2
                        15 September 2017 23: 12
                        it will be taken out to frenzied haplogroups, the construction of the Chinese wall by the ancient Slavs and the devastation by them (ancient Slavs) of Cook. The world is ruled by reptilians from Mars, to which the Zionist World Government will submit. Glory to the Annunaki! fellow Shpakovsky does not invent anything himself, but receives everything through me and the Doctor from the State Department (Do you really think that the Doctor is such a patriot? No. No, he is a cunningly disguised chameleon selling state secrets directly from the emergency room, passes them in an enema in liquid form, and especially important information is knocked on a stethoscope by a morse code wink ) Reptiloid-Dmitry - the most important reptiloid occupying the site (also cunningly encrypted good , only on nickname and avatar burnt out). request
                        it'll do? laughing drinks
                    2. +3
                      16 September 2017 00: 14
                      Quote: Mikado
                      it will be taken out to frenzied haplogroups, the construction of the Chinese wall by the ancient Slavs and the devastation by them (ancient Slavs) of Cook.

                      Sleep off ???! wink wassat
                      1. +2
                        16 September 2017 01: 11
                        The Lord is with you, do not get carried away! stop read the comments of some users. laughing Just brought the idea to the point of absurdity drinks
            2. +3
              15 September 2017 22: 20
              the same dark forces on the compass were affected by the arrow and got messed up ... and the number of saurons, so my name is legion .. feel
  11. +1
    15 September 2017 17: 29
    [quote = Anglorussian] In Hong Kong, Singapore, the standard of living in Britain. Where are the robbed natives? In Rhodesia and South Africa until the beginning of the game of democracy, the natives also lived well. [/ Quote
    What do you mean: colonization of Africa? Anglo-Boer war, or so far different: Nkoms and Mondela did not come to power.
    If I am not mistaken, then in South Africa there is still "God's grace", and Zimbabwe, Angola and who else is there? Drooling envy
    1. +1
      15 September 2017 18: 31
      South Africa is also ... that is not sugar. Reverse apartheid ....
  12. +5
    15 September 2017 23: 24
    Mikado,
    Residents of the State Department with an enema of state secrets? Will do. Let him knock harder on a stethoscope. feel
    1. +2
      15 September 2017 23: 34
      The Doctor and Caliber use different ciphers so that they are not detected. soldier Therefore, Kurios serves to transmit information on the site. stop He relays both and passes them with his own code. I follow the transmission of information. hi Rev. (I propose to canonize! good ), now Saint Benjamin serves the forces of good, the forces of Russian-Slavic unity through haplogroups, and does not allow the activities of Kurios, regularly sending him to the ban for responding to his boorish statements. negative I passed all. hi Well, where is my money? am at least pay for indulgences, hell! sad I myself inflicted 3000 blows in the ass! crying
      1. +5
        15 September 2017 23: 41
        Quote: Mikado
        Saint Benjamin serves the forces of good,

        This is a fact.
        Quote: Mikado
        to the forces of Russian-Slavic unity through haplogroups

        At to the Operator. negative
        Quote: Mikado
        does not allow the activities of Curios, regularly sending him to the ban

        We will all be there. crying
        Quote: Mikado
        I passed all. Well, where is my money?

        The money is dumb.
        Quote: Mikado
        I myself inflicted 3000 blows in the ass!

        Have a good mood. laughing
        1. +4
          15 September 2017 23: 43
          At to the Operator.

          The operator, at least, knows how to communicate.
          The money is dumb. Have a good mood. laughing

          no money, but I'm holding on! laughing drinks
  13. +3
    16 September 2017 09: 56
    Mikado,
    I realized Yes That was such a cracker laughing drinks
    1. +2
      17 September 2017 15: 12
      I try drinks I bow to you drinks hi but without humor it’s not interesting to live! request
  14. +2
    17 September 2017 17: 24
    MikadoOrcs are elves raised in depressed areas
    "Even the evil orcs
    And they were afraid of Lorca
    She led a witching life "
    Ancient Elven Song "The Tale of Loriel"
    1. +2
      18 September 2017 10: 42
      Orcs are elves raised in depressed areas

      immediately remembered:
      "Maybe you’ll say that the fanatic Mark Krysoboy is a good man?" (P. Pilate) drinks

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