The officer of the Armed Forces of Ukraine about Basurin and recycling "pravosekov"

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The current officer of the Armed Forces of Ukraine tells about Basurin, "volunteers" and the attitude of the army to the "pravosekam" and other "ideological."

The officer of the Armed Forces of Ukraine about Basurin and recycling "pravosekov"




I read your article about the fact that in our anti-terrorist operation zone there are one and a half thousand left to no one controlled by bandyugans. Let me explain to you, my former colleague, about terbats and pravoseks so that you can understand the essence of the matter. Basurin you do not quote - already good. Although he bears nonsense, but this is what one needs and who needs nonsense. And it is clear that this does not always coincide with reality.

Understand, I'm not a reproach. The informational-hybrid war is in full swing, while we are portraying ourselves here as “the military of the Svitl”. I do not pretend to the truth in extreme instances - I write about what I see and hear. And, get on, I write from the point of view of the "frame". Neshiluyu part of life gave the army and today stupidly earning a living.

I know your attitude to this, but you also know that my sick old people in Russia do not need anyone, and so far I can earn only what I learned in the Soviet Union. Fortunately, this gives me the opportunity to no longer shoot at people, but to save someone. If what I regret, it is inability to penetrate with impunity nonhumans. And believe me, I'm not the only one here.

So, about nonhumans.

Pravoseki and terbats sample 2014-2016's, yes, classic ushlepki (to put it mildly and roughly speaking - ...), very ideological and with the emptiness between the ears. About your favorite "Azov" (I remember, you worked on it in Kharkov, worked closely in 2014), I will tell you separately, then reptiles of another breed. But among them was the mass of those who went for gesheftom, nishtyak and other buns. Your Beletsky first and went - smart, bastard. But not about him.

This contingent of volunteers, and they really are volunteers, is much better equipped than us, the supply is more decent than the APU, all personal belongings are in abundance (PNV, communications, UAVs, medicine, ...) and, it may be a stretch to say that they were like projectiles. For us. It was the case. Why and shot them at every opportunity. And we have thinned them together with our opponents on the other side of the front very well. About those times I wrote to you in detail, because there is no point in repeating.



But! In the yard 2017 year. Now ideological ones are clearly inferior in number to those who joined the “volunteers” for profit.

The same is with them in Kuyev, Ternopol or Lviv. And even to a greater degree - the paw needs to remain on a sweet spot in the regional center or the capital and not substitute it for bullets. A lot of such heroes are climbing, in a fashionable form with blyambami, a bunch of medals and attendants in his pocket. And they tell the suckers "for life" on the front lines, and how cool it is to cut the loot. Here are all sorts of naive and volunteer rod. Yes, this is the reality of this year, and so now they recruit cookies into terbats. Naked patriotism is not in fashion now!

But this is what they propagate. Now the reality.

Pravosekov and terbatovtsev here are driven away so that they do not graze in other territories b / U (the former Ukraine), did not arrange pogroms and that they are still arranging there. A pile of cattle, who can not and do not want to work and fight, and want - Panuvate. And they also rubbed about the status of a database participant, about discounts on utilities and free shmat of Ukrainian black soil. Just like Fritz in the Patriotic. Plus, on returning, the place in the detachment at the place of residence that the city holds and the local business is roofing so from politicians and bureaucrats shaking money for dismantling - there is no reason to disagree, explain the truth of life, etc. etc.

None of the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not include these “volunteers”. Though they write: “I arrived at the forward battalion“ Ternopil-Odyn ”.

Yeah, right now on account of the times, the battalion they arrived. At the most platoon. For the brigadier commander of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, such “happiness” and not a gift for nothing, and even in such numbers. Crush as they can. Well, they also break off the horns quickly. And the greyhounds risk "accidentally" on a stretch to blow up or there under the mine DNR get. How is it in the "White Sun"?
- Shot ...

The truth is, there are “lured places” in the area of ​​the front under the Donetsk airport, where the APU is not even close, some pravoseki and other OUN-shelupon. I hope not need to specify the exact place? Your still know, only Basurin is silent. He knows, but is silent. But this is an exception.

Go ahead.

The whole essence of the current policy of my sincerely hated Commander-in-Chief, Padro, is to keep on keeping on these “volunteers”. You know why. And they rod and rod where maybe more pay. And they pay not like us. Because there are sponsors. And in retaliation, we will cut up parts of the front with the order: “Hold, otherwise Putin will attack!”

And who first deserts in the case of the nix? Aha

About deserters separately. Not so long ago, they were chasing down deserters who had merged into the depth of the “Nenki” with a whole branch. Well, a couple of shot. The rest are gone - then a company of natsgadov chased after them. Circus, their own catch. What is over, I do not know. But no one was returned back.

By the way, note. If anyone here is capable of somehow fighting, it’s the natsgadi and other avakovsky bullies. And if something starts, but not at the front (nothing will start here, no one needs it), but in Kiev, then the APU bayonet into the ground and the machine guns in the arrangement bristle. Wait, whose top will be.

And in order not to deserted, they knew the place and did not move out, with the Pravoseko-Terbatovskiy “military forces”, the Ukrainian Armed Forces periodically arrange a test for lice.

There are two options here.

1. They send something to the gray zone to press, where there are no DNRs. And you yourself go there knock knock, to you guests. You know how it is done when you need to bring something to the front of the front end. Five seconds and figs who will track. But who am I explaining this to ?!
Further it is clear.

2. More often now it happens. reluctantly something our volunteers began to go to the neutral. Then, over the heads of the unfortunate warriors we pour mines (well, or shells) in the direction of Donetsk, and then the DNI troops cover in response the positions of “cyborgs” from mortars.

I know everything about everything, who, whom, for what and how. But all do not care.

But Basurin quite seriously the next morning, with a straight face (God forbid, his health and the rank of general, it was necessary to find such a reference type of political officer, just a classic. NOT sarcasm on my part, I remember your captain Kalinichenko, if that. I am quite seriously, he reminds me of my political officer). He declares without emotion, like, from the standpoint of pravosek-terbatovtsev was shelling, there golimi shots fired. We didn’t answer, but they themselves have died from glassmaking.

So pravoseko-terbatovtsy on the front line is now just meat. They are chmyry on both sides. And the losses do not count them - they are not listed. And nafig who need them.

Output.

If you hear in the media: “VSU are conscripts, white and fluffy, they observe Minsk. And terbatOrvosseki is a nightmare, uncontrollable psychos, ”read what I wrote to you.
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  1. +17
    15 September 2017 06: 40
    The non-living part of the life of the army who gave stupidly earning a living.

    ... and the keyword here is highlighted in bold ... that is, not any gaps in their lives, and until they crash ... well, so no one has tied this author with chains to a machine gun, as the Japanese did or the Nazis, there is always a way ... conclusion - kills for the loot ...
    1. +19
      15 September 2017 06: 51
      Yes, it’s clear that both of them are good .. For the loot they are ready to spank anyone .. And this “officer” just wants to otmazatsya? He is the same criminal as those in the terbats ..
      Quote: aszzz888
      The non-living part of the life of the army who gave stupidly earning a living.

      ... and the keyword here is highlighted in bold ... that is, not any gaps in their lives, and until they crash ... well, so no one has tied this author with chains to a machine gun, as the Japanese did or the Nazis, there is always a way ... conclusion - kills for the loot ...
      1. +33
        15 September 2017 07: 55
        Quote: 210ox
        And this "officer" just wants to get away?

        And how do you like this
        And if something starts, but not at the front (nothing will start here, nobody needs it), but in Kiev, then the APU will bayonet into the ground and bristle automatically in the arrangement. Wait, whose top will be.

        Is my hut on the edge? Well done! White will come - we will serve them. The Reds will serve them. Natsik came to power, we serve them. Once again, the Youth.
        nobody needs my sick old people in Russia

        And this is generally from the series for the poor. Again, Russia is to blame. VNA Ukraine does not want to feed the elderly.
        1. +3
          15 September 2017 09: 19
          Quote: Smog
          VNA Ukraine does not want to feed the elderly.


          Hi, Konstantin.
          To feed, you need to work and earn money. And when there is no work (and there is no desire to work either), when the IMF’s freebie is over and the Kiev leaders have nothing to appease the hetman who has pledged on promises (to pay 1000 hryvnias a day in the so-called ATO zone), freeloaders who are ripe to kill their own kind for pieces of paper with drawings, then ooh-ahs, drooling, snot and such revelations begin. A sure sign of the approaching end. But they will be judged by deeds, not by remorse. Yes
          1. +10
            15 September 2017 10: 21
            A lion! Good morning.
            The fact that they did not want to work was understandable from the very beginning. EU, visa-free and lace knickers, for free. The ultimate dream of Seluk. Very many. We all have to ....
            Reality turned out to be more tragic. It turns out that you have to pay for everything. At first, the Russian Federation was brutal; it demanded money for gas and other things. And as soon as she dared. Now the West is becoming cruel, too, it begins to ask debts slowly So far, the truth is in permission to cut down and export forests and sell land. But as they say - dashing trouble has begun.
            But I was still more killed by his desire to sit out in the bushes until someone there with someone in kuev decides who will panov into Ukraine.
            It turns out that if overt Nazis take power tomorrow, they will serve them and measure the skulls. True kakel or with an admixture?. And if the communists, with the red flag on Khreschatyk run and restore the monuments to Lenin? It turns out that the fate of the country is so indifferent, if only to fill your own belly and not to scratch your skin. And are these officers? Ugh. And he does not repent. Some excuses
            1. +2
              15 September 2017 16: 06
              Well, in general, the position "my hut from the edge" in Ukraine is a national idea, it seems. And the complete lack of initiative is innate. I will explain with an example. I have a subordinate - a former sergeant of the 1st brigade of special forces of centuries, and then the national guard of Ukraine. This is the one that was before the Bars, and now renamed in military unit 3027 “1st Presidential Operational Brigade named after Hetman Petro Doroshenko. " So, the initiative is zero. There will be a fire in front of him or something else to happen - only picks his nose. It works only on direct simple commands. Like do it, then report on the execution. No other way. I already ask him: "tell me how former Vova to former Vova - how did you become a special forces sergeant"? Well, for a sergeant, an understanding is necessary. And he answers me - "the rest were even worse." belay
              To the campaign - from whom clear teams go - to that they obey. Themselves - do not budge, without a team. request
            2. +2
              15 September 2017 16: 38
              Quote: Smog
              just to fill your own belly and not scratch your skin.


              Well, here, friend, one answer: "what is pop, such is parish." This saying is 1000 years old, not nowadays invented. Stop, and here is the proof:
          2. +4
            15 September 2017 15: 03
            To feed, you need to work and earn money. And when there is no work (and there is no desire to work either), when the IMF’s freebie is over and the Kiev leaders have nothing to appease the hetman who has pledged on promises (to pay 1000 hryvnias a day in the so-called ATO zone), freeloaders who are ripe to kill their own kind for pieces of paper with drawings, then ooh-ahs, drooling, snot and such revelations begin. A sure sign of the approaching end. But they will be judged by deeds, not by remorse. Yes [/ Quote]
            Well, I agree with you, as stated above ... only with some irony ... (excuse me), the point is that it is hardly possible to achieve such an independence policy ..., from the very beginning a slavish position and I bow to amers, like it’s as if they calculated all this ..., well, our political scientists believed ..., well, it’s not so simple, when it touches serious, I think everything will fall into place, and I doubt something that will affect serious, they will tear Ukraine apart and merge as unnecessary ...
            1. +2
              15 September 2017 16: 42
              Quote: NIKNN
              tear Ukraine and merge as unnecessary ...


              Greetings. Similarly, in the near future (IMHO).
        2. +6
          15 September 2017 14: 24
          Quote: Smog
          Is my hut on the edge? Well done! White will come - we will serve them. The Reds will serve them. Natsik came to power, we serve them. Once again

          finally, as practice has shown, there the whole country lives by this principle (with the exception of LDNR) !!! negative negative negative hi
        3. +2
          19 September 2017 04: 02
          1945, the city of Nürgberg ".. we only obeyed the orders ..... Sentence - hang" We remember that this was so, so let them not relax and "determine" until they determined for them.
      2. 0
        16 September 2017 05: 07
        Are you 210 points? Can you live without dough? Spank on the clave, not carry bags ...

        The narrator has his own morality. Although in this world, and especially in war, it can cost a life.
    2. +11
      15 September 2017 07: 53
      I’m now bursting into tears with emotion, the same victim of the "bloody" regime! Ohfitser ... laughing
      1. +10
        15 September 2017 08: 18
        Zyablitsov Today, 07: 53 ↑ New
        I’m now bursting into tears with emotion, but to me the victim of the "bloody" regime! Ohfitser.

        Evgeny Viktorovich, welcome! fellow drinks
        Believe it or not, everyone decides for himself. As if he made his choice, what he would do with the next tire revolution he decided.
        I know your attitude to this, but you also know that my sick old people in Russia do not need anyone, and so far I can earn only what I learned in the Soviet Union. Fortunately, this gives me the opportunity to no longer shoot at people, but to save someone. If what I regret, it is inability to penetrate with impunity nonhumans. And believe me, I'm not the only one here.

        We know little about our civil war 100 years ago. There, too, the officers had to make their choice, and not everyone who went over to the side of the people died their deaths, even generals. And Kotovsky? Of the raiders, the Red Commander, awarded with golden weapons, famously rose to the NEP: mills, factories, etc. Was there a woman, or maybe more prosaic: the arrow ended not in his favor. Moreover, the killer got a good job in the zone, served a half-term and, as it were, the “fellow soldiers” of Kotovsky captured after the liberation of the villain and killed him.
        I do not think that in this civil war in Ukraine, everything is clean and from the side of the LDNR. Politics is a dirty business.
        One re-enactor, seemingly with pure ideas, advanced from the Crimea with fifty of his comrades-in-arms to defend the Russian World. And then rot came up: His former employer, the Orthodox oligarch, has a business with an American Baptist oligarch. In an Internet interview with his former curator-muddy KGB general, who has a son, an officer of the US armed forces in the rank of major.
        I will not clog the air. We wish the Ukrainian people to finally make their choice among brothers and friends, to finally throw off this clique of potmk traitors and executioners of Ukraine angry and close the US embassy. wink
        1. +4
          15 September 2017 08: 59
          Jaudat Vazykhovich! Good day! drinks hi

          You're right! Civil war is the most vile and senseless massacre, when a brother goes to his brother for ideological or other contradictions, it is difficult to find an explanation and justification! But nothing can be done ... Here, to the fact that I know very well how many foreign advisers are rubbing at the headquarters of the Armed Forces and this is difficult to call a civil war ... And I don’t admit, but the person wrote that he was taught in the Union, which means at least the lieutenant colonel, and most likely the colonel, cannot but know this and cannot but understand that the point here is a little different than the simple disagreement between Donbass and Kiev!
          1. +5
            15 September 2017 09: 16
            Quote: Finches
            cannot but know this and cannot but understand that the point here is a little different than the simple disagreement between Donbass and Kiev!

            It's like that. I got the impression that the officer is doing what he can, being a hostage to the situation: parents, family, his understanding of duty. It serves the country and the people, but that's just the country. like a fallen woman, she got sick, got confused. Perhaps there are more such APU officers than the descendants of the traitors and executioners of Ukraine. hi
            1. +3
              15 September 2017 09: 19
              Naturally, it’s easy to reason with me! In order to fully understand and judge, you need to be in it, God forbid, the skin! I hope his hands are not to the elbow in the blood of his compatriots and I will pay tribute that he does not accuse Russia of armed aggression! hi
              1. +5
                15 September 2017 12: 50
                Sorry to interfere, but I agree with you more. Would he be a tactician on the collective farm or a worker at the Roshen factory, then yes. A military is a specific profession, he has weapons in his hands and it shoots. If you are a hostage of circumstances - just leave. I think everyone in our lives had a similar choice, few of my friends chose the path of struggle, but just to leave was enough honor for everyone.
                1. 0
                  16 September 2017 05: 16
                  bk316

                  You are superficially reasoning ..

                  There is nothing more to do in Ukraine. There stand behind the machine, a line of 10 people.
                  the military also has families. Fulfill orders, receive money. It’s not accepted to argue, and what's more, it’s dangerous.
                  The state obliged to serve. Failure equates to desertion. The second plus the first, quite a motivation.
                  1. +1
                    19 September 2017 04: 12
                    Well then, let them "with a proudly raised head" and be silent when the LDNR soldiers hang from them. And then how he won’t be captured immediately "I was a cook, I didn’t hold any weapons in my hands."

                    It’s time for a long time to clatter with them — they caught it — they quickly interrogated me — “he died of remorse”. soldier good
    3. +1
      18 September 2017 10: 51
      Civil war is an excessive meanness, excessive cruelty, betrayal, money-grubbing and other dirt.
  2. +1
    15 September 2017 06: 41
    Well, it seems like the truth.
  3. +9
    15 September 2017 07: 06
    Yeah! APUs are white and fluffy, he squeezed out a straight tear. They beat them and we will beat. Because they serve a bloody junta and carry out its orders. But what can he not tell what they do with those who refuse to fight with their people?
    1. +5
      15 September 2017 08: 03
      Quote: Mar. Tira
      Yeah! APUs are white and fluffy, he squeezed out a straight tear. They beat them and we will beat. Because they serve a bloody junta and carry out its orders. But what can he not tell what they do with those who refuse to fight with their people?

      Wow! What part did they serve? Or is it a secret secret?
      Or are you that simple?
      1. 0
        15 September 2017 09: 22
        laughing laughing AXAAAXAXXAXAXA !!!!!!!!!!!!
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  5. +7
    15 September 2017 07: 09
    Say a word about poor hussar!
  6. +9
    15 September 2017 07: 09
    stupidly earning a living.

    Clear. I am so miserable and poor that I didn’t voluntarily, but only at the request of my wife went to kill my citizens.
    Although he (Basurin) carries nonsense,
    And the ATO press service is not nonsense? Delirium, and even worse than the opposite side.
    1. +1
      19 September 2017 04: 19
      In general, about Basurin’s nonsense, but for this separately it is necessary to knock on the face. I will not upload photos of victims among civilians of New Russia recently (who wants to google). And the fact that at first some of the allegations seem "nonsense", for example about the same terrorist mishandled groups, and then the BAC - and people are already blowing up monuments. And about the fact that "they are preparing for the offensive", so none of us knows who and why TAM makes a decision. Maybe there was a decision, and after the “exposure” of secretive concentration, smart people make a decision - it’s not worth it. For obviously one more "successful boiler" in Ukria is not needed by anyone. So if they trample it, then it’s for sure. Again, no one canceled the tactics - the jerking of the anti-mustache “by the mustache” without giving him the opportunity to accurately determine the direction of the main blow and prepare in advance. So tanks and art roam along the front line to here.
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  8. +5
    15 September 2017 07: 30
    As an option ... Not soon we will find out how it really was. About the ATO, and about LDNR, and what Natsik is doing there, and what the APU. Nowhere is there more lies than in war and hunting ...
  9. +5
    15 September 2017 07: 40
    In the 14th, the term "combat *** s" appeared. So along this front line are everyone - from the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces to the very last draftee. Whatever they make excuses for.
    And Basurin’s job is to talk.
  10. +3
    15 September 2017 07: 49
    Confession of a bastard, for if he had thrown a couple of shekels and a fashionable clothes, he would have been completely happy
  11. +5
    15 September 2017 08: 05
    I cried .... the war is only kept on the right-wingers ..... As Stanislavsky used to say "I don’t believe" .....
    1. +6
      15 September 2017 08: 14
      CALL!
      By the way, another question, who is the author of the letter, and whether he really has a relationship with the APU.

      The obvious sympathies of the publisher of "anonymous letter" to the Ukrainian Armed Forces at least raise questions to him.
  12. 0
    15 September 2017 08: 59
    God forbid that normal men in the Armed Forces of Ukraine avoid bullets, under which they are substituted by Offal and more, such as the author of everything written
  13. +4
    15 September 2017 09: 20
    Anyway, damn it is unpleasant when the Russians kill the Russians for American candy wrappers! But the essence of the tragedy is all in this. sad
    1. +3
      15 September 2017 10: 26
      I have long wanted to sympathize with the simple Anglo-Saxons in the civil war on the territory of the SGA, Britain and other free European countries. Even regret it. But, they do not allow me to show my best feelings.
  14. BAI
    +1
    15 September 2017 09: 22
    Obviously, people sitting in a trench and sitting on a couch speak and look at life differently. But the greater the disagreement between the armed groups in Ukraine, the better.
  15. +14
    15 September 2017 10: 09
    I do not know how real this letter is from a real person, but ... The position is clear and understandable. The border is clearly drawn between staffing alumni and the rabble that brewed all this mess, starting from the Maidan (there are ideological snacks, crime, and just scumbags, and a lot more). The idea is absolutely correct! Because in VSU are ordinary lads who (excuse me) from the same villages as in the RF Armed Forces. They cannot understand any subtleties! They just can't. They are swathed, skimmed, terrified Selyuk! "Smart lecturers" told them all on TV and in parts, and they hung their ears. "That’s why Putin wants to scourge us!" Yes, it’s a pity that people don’t know how to think with their heads, but the key word here is all so "sorry"! We must understand that then we all live together. And therefore it is necessary to get out not on the people, but on the scumbags who deceive and destroy this people. This is the same as with the Germans and the Nazis. These are different things. And a simple German soldier, too, xs what he understood there. And then a frightened and frozen crawled on a belly somewhere in a swamp ... Is it possible to personally blame him? Can. But blaming is always easy.
    I’m afraid now that I’m spat on, but ... guys, simple guys should understand that for the Russian Federation they are not enemies, but those who zigzag on the Maidan. Otherwise, only cyclic mutual hatred between brothers. And this is exactly what our foreign (and local) partners seek from all of us.
    1. +2
      17 September 2017 21: 52
      I'm afraid to be spat on right now
      Well, for such thoughts it is unlikely! Everything is clear in meaning and deed! good
    2. 0
      19 September 2017 04: 53
      I’ll tell you one clever thing, I’ll tell you only don’t be offended - ONLY regular military personnel can fly helicopters and airplanes, use tanks and infantry fighting vehicles really efficiently (they’ll drown him in the swamp, turn them over and especially not get anywhere), and most importantly, give target designations for artillery (from which the peaceful suffered the most) !! am Everything else is really just meat, which can maradet not those positions that "recaptured" the personnel army. sad
      Yes, the projectile throws a cannon at the barrel — the “draft sucker” or the same “volunteer”, but without real experts these shells can easily fall on their heads or fly away to hell, and the infantry attacking will attack the enemy’s unsuppressed defenses (as is often done by the enemy and slamming )
      Yes, they have already seen “volunteers” in tanks for a long time, there is a video of Givi (peace be upon him) telling about imitating an attack by air using four tanks ".. they popped up, pulled the drums in full swing and ran away from the defeat call. Che this it was we did not understand. "
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  17. +3
    15 September 2017 10: 19
    You are all evil. It would not be possible to offer a gun with one cartridge. Here: "... what else was taught in the Union." After all, the idiot is shy. Not by status crawled with the article .. Level of a mature corporal-galitsaya under matzo.
  18. +2
    15 September 2017 10: 55
    An attempt to divide manure into cow and pig manure.
  19. +4
    15 September 2017 13: 34
    This is the stuffing. Do not believe? "The devil is in the details" .... I do not pretend to be Sherlock Holmes and even Dr. Watson, but .... At first the typo was guarded and you know that nobody needs my sick old people in Russia that is, an APU officer, and parents in Russia? I have not met such people, although it seems to be in the subject, and every year I tried to visit my father ...
    Further. NEVER Ukrainian, dill, x ... l will not say in Kuev, and also the Ukrainian will not write comma-separated Ternopil in Russian, and Lviv in Ukrainian.
    More ... The name "terbat" "died" two years ago, when they really recruited residents of cities and regions. Dobrobat has taken root.
    During my three times in Ukraine during the post-Maidan Maidan, I have not heard that they would be called President Pedro. Petyunka, peta, chocolate (and derivatives of the word chocolate) but Pedro ... Here in VO - often thickly, there - no.
    so I suspect that this "officer of the Armed Forces of Ukraine" this one sits wherever he is on the sofa near Ryazan and works out his own ... Although about Basurin I agree with him. Typical political officer.
    1. +4
      15 September 2017 14: 07
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      This is the stuffing. Do not believe? "The devil is in the details" .... I do not pretend to be Sherlock Holmes and even Dr. Watson, but ....
      It is very correct that you do not pretend. Highly )

      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      At first, a typo was guarded and you know that nobody in my sick old people in Russia needs an officer of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and parents in Russia? I have not met such people, although it seems to be in the subject, and every year I tried to visit my father ...
      This means that a person cannot take his parents and move with them to Russia. Both due to the state of health of the parents, and because there will be problems with the paperwork for the parents. They are not from Tajikistan, after all ...

      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      Further. NEVER a Ukrainian, dill, x ... l will not say in Kuev, and yet a Ukrainian will not write a comma in Ternopil in Russian, and Lviv in Ukrainian.
      Well, to begin with, the “Ukrainian” can easily turn out to be Russian with a Ukrainian passport. There are a lot of them in the territory of the former Ukraine.
      And secondly, they write and speak in every way.

      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      During my three times in Ukraine during the post-Maidan Maidan, I have not heard that they would be called President Pedro. Petyunka, peta, chocolate (and derivatives of the word chocolate) but Pedro ... Here in VO - often thickly, there - no.
      Well, after 2014, I was not in Ukraine - but as they say - I heard. And on Skype, and by phone. Maybe you were in some other Ukraine?

      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      so I suspect that the "APU officer" this one sits wherever on the sofa near Ryazan and works out his ...
      The author of the article is very easy to google on the internet. You can, for example, take a walk to him in LJ and show him your calculations and suspicions there. He even has anonymous comments allowed. He does not immediately send, he is polite. Perhaps you will answer ...
      1. 0
        15 September 2017 16: 55
        And secondly, they write and speak in every way. - You are right in that. And they write and speak differently, so the stuffing on the stuffing ... I'm half Ukrainian, was there last time in March. And you tell me how they say and write. Believe further on stupid rumors. And yet ... Imagine an officer of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, who was in the ATO dreaming of moving to Russia. He has few problems in life?
        1. +2
          15 September 2017 18: 27
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          And secondly, they write and speak in every way. - You are right in that. And they write and speak differently, so the stuffing on the stuffing ...

          I personally and for a long time know the author of the article. He does not do stuffing. And yes, he really has a lot of friends among officers - both in the Armed Forces of Ukraine and in Russia. I suggested that you google his name. So, for fun.

          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          And you tell me how they say and write. Believe further on stupid rumors. And yet ... Imagine an officer of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, who was in the ATO dreaming of moving to Russia. He has few problems in life?
          So many move. Didn't you know? They don’t have any special problems. Most of the officers from the ATO stood all their ATO somewhere in the unknown wilds of the muddy opornik ...
  20. +5
    15 September 2017 13: 48
    Quote: gorgo
    The boundary between the personnel alumni and that rabble that brewed all this mess is clearly drawn.

    Is there any difference? And how many graduates of Soviet schools are now in the university? Even a lieutenant-graduate of 91 years already has 26 years of service and, not being a general, should already be retired. So the attempt to whitewash the sun does not roll. It is the "personnel" who drive tanks, work on howitzers and fly on airplanes. 99% of VSUs studied already in the independence, and there immediately after 91 they taught Svidomo, remember the first slogan of the first president of the independence: "Ukraine is not Russia!", And the first seeds of the current seedlings were sown already. Those who disagree with the general line have long been in the civilian world.
    Quote: gorgo
    They were told by “smart lecturers” on TV and in parts, and they hung their ears. "That’s why Putin wants to scourge us!" Yes, it’s a pity that people don’t know how to think with their heads

    Here I agree, people completely amputated the brain. My father has been waiting for three years in an embrace with a pitchfork for Russian tanks, so that he will die with a “guide”. And this man told me all his childhood WHAT and HOW Banderaites did in Ukraine, now he declares that "Bandera is not so bad for Ukraine."
    The worst thing is that even if the brainwashing stops now, there will be no result ... The body is already deadly poisoned.
  21. +4
    15 September 2017 17: 15
    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    This is the stuffing. Do not believe? "The devil is in the details" .... I do not pretend to be Sherlock Holmes and even Dr. Watson, but .... At first the typo was guarded and you know that nobody needs my sick old people in Russia that is, an APU officer, and parents in Russia? I have not met such people, although it seems to be in the subject, and every year I tried to visit my father ...
    Further. NEVER Ukrainian, dill, x ... l will not say in Kuev, and also the Ukrainian will not write comma-separated Ternopil in Russian, and Lviv in Ukrainian.
    More ... The name "terbat" "died" two years ago, when they really recruited residents of cities and regions. Dobrobat has taken root.
    During my three times in Ukraine during the post-Maidan Maidan, I have not heard that they would be called President Pedro. Petyunka, peta, chocolate (and derivatives of the word chocolate) but Pedro ... Here in VO - often thickly, there - no.
    so I suspect that this "officer of the Armed Forces of Ukraine" this one sits wherever he is on the sofa near Ryazan and works out his own ... Although about Basurin I agree with him. Typical political officer.

    And my old people in Russia are also unnecessary. Residents of Russia do not need my old people living in Ukraine, it dawned on a poor-quality detective. And what was to be done if they called from the military registration and enlistment office on March 2, 2014, come tomorrow. The town is small, everyone knows each other. And they tell everyone on TV that the events in Kiev are proceeding according to the Constitution, and if you do not arrive at the military registration and enlistment office, you are a traitor and an oath-criminal. And there was no war.
  22. +2
    15 September 2017 21: 34
    I write about what I see and hear. And, be quiet, panov, I write from the point of view of the "frame". He gave the non-resident part of his life to the army and today stupidly earns his living.

    I know your attitude to this, but you also know that no one needs my sick old people in Russia and so far I can only earn what I have learned in the Union. Fortunately, this gives me the opportunity to no longer shoot at people, but to save someone.


    Parents - in Russia, and the "frame" APU "is at war with the Russians." Zarobitchin "not shooting at people" ... thu ...

    Quote: gorgo
    in all ordinary lads who (excuse me) from the same villages as in the RF Armed Forces. They cannot understand any subtleties! They just can't. They are swathed, skimmed, terrified Selyuk! "Smart lecturers" told them all on TV and in parts, and they hung their ears. "That’s why Putin wants to scourge us!" Yes, it’s a pity that people don’t know how to think with their heads, but the key word here is all so "sorry"!


    You can only feel sorry for those caught in the Armed Forces upon conscription. There are already no such people, there are only contracted zarobitchites, also Selyuki, but Selyuki, who are well aware that they are obliged to kill by order, and that these killings will be paid from the budget of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine.

    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    NEVER a Ukrainian, dill, x ... l will not say in Kuev, and yet a Ukrainian will not write a comma in Ternopil in Russian, and Lviv in Ukrainian.


    It only means that for three times of your stay with us in Ukraine, you still did not catch the difference between spelling and pronunciation. Well, they have never heard words like "Kuev", "Kuiv", "Kuyiv". And the nuances like “Lviv”, “Lviv” and other variations on the theme of Lviv performed by Galicians probably simply did not notice. lol
  23. +1
    15 September 2017 21: 46
    I write about what I see and hear. And, be quiet, panov, I write from the point of view of the "frame". He gave the non-resident part of his life to the army and today stupidly earns his living.

    I know your attitude to this, but you also know that no one needs my sick old people in Russia and so far I can only earn what I have learned in the Union. Fortunately, this gives me the opportunity to no longer shoot at people, but to save someone.


    Parents - in Russia, and the "frame" APU "is at war with the Russians." Zarobitchin "not shooting at people" ... thu ...

    Quote: gorgo
    in all ordinary lads who (excuse me) from the same villages as in the RF Armed Forces. They cannot understand any subtleties! They just can't. They are swathed, skimmed, terrified Selyuk! "Smart lecturers" told them all on TV and in parts, and they hung their ears. "That’s why Putin wants to scourge us!" Yes, it’s a pity that people don’t know how to think with their heads, but the key word here is all so "sorry"!


    You can only feel sorry for those caught in the Armed Forces upon conscription. There are already no such people, there are only contracted zarobitchites, also Selyuki, but Selyuki, who are well aware that they are obliged to kill by order, and that these killings will be paid from the budget of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine.

    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    NEVER a Ukrainian, dill, x ... l will not say in Kuev, and yet a Ukrainian will not write a comma in Ternopil in Russian, and Lviv in Ukrainian.


    It only means that for three times of your stay with us in Ukraine, you still did not catch the difference between spelling and pronunciation. Well, they have never heard words like "Kuev", "Kuiv", "Kuyiv". And the nuances like “Lviv”, “Lviv” and other variations on the theme of Lviv performed by Galicians probably simply did not notice. lol We, Ukrainians, still have the contemptuous word "Lion". For only three trips with large gaps you do not understand this. So do not just speak out so categorically on this basis.
  24. +2
    15 September 2017 21: 52
    Quote: ufpb
    And what was to be done if they called from the military registration and enlistment office on March 2, 2014, come tomorrow. The town is small, everyone knows each other.


    What to do? Ignore the call, that's all.
  25. +3
    15 September 2017 22: 22
    "Then we put mines (well, or shells) over the heads of the woe-warrior in the direction of Donetsk, and then the DNI troops then cover the positions of the" cyborgs "of mortars in response."
    In the direction of Donetsk - it’s on the school site, in the garden of a grandmother who survived Hitler’s occupation, but was killed by you, fellow citizens of her country. You, however, are the same m.a.a.z., like the mercenaries from Azov, and not an officer in the SA.
  26. +1
    17 September 2017 18: 03
    In fact, we have also “many second-rate contractors” drove “to the second Chechnya”. And now the whole, practically, prestige of the contract service lies in a decent monetary allowance. The author, on the other hand, is the same Soviet officer as that of ours remaining in the RF Armed Forces. We also said nothing in 1991 (“the army is out of politics”, like the Ukrainian Armed Forces in February 20914), hollowed out of tank guns in the Supreme Soviet of the Russian Federation in 1993 (contrary to the Constitution), then we participated in the ATO in Chechnya . We are one nation, and we have one mentality. It all depends on who controls us.
  27. Bat
    0
    20 September 2017 19: 40
    You're lying, Mikle1. You’re just preparing a retreat for yourself. If you get captured by ours. Here they say, in Topwar I have an article. Condemning Natsik.
  28. 0
    22 November 2017 15: 47
    the next "pseudo-tracking-slezogonnaya" cry of the Ukrainian punisher .. horseradish otmazhatsya dressing officer pursuit .. you-PUNISHER. and the road to you shines either on the gallows or if you beg forgiveness from the relatives of those killed by you - at the stage.

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