"Kalashnikov" launched the sale of new carbines "Saiga-MK"

Kalashnikov Concern, part of Rostec State Corporation, launched the Saiga-MK self-loading karabiners for sale in 7,62 caliber 30 and 33, developed on the basis of AK103 Kalashnikov and AK104 shortened Kalashnikov, AKXNUMX, respectively, reports press office concern.

New items are maximally unified with combat analogues in appearance, weight, weight, ergonomics and reliability. Carabiners can be used for training and sport shooting, as well as hunting.

The Saiga-MK carbines in the 30 and 33 versions are completed with a magazine in an elongated body, a folding butt made of impact-resistant polymer, an automatic locking trigger that prevents firing when the butt is folded. In the lower part of the polymer forearm, a Picatinny rail is made to install additional accessories such as a front handle or a rifle flashlight.

The receiver has a cartridge guide that increases the reliability of the supply of cartridges (including with a semi-shell bullet) and allows athletes to use cartridges for 30 stores. There is an aiming bar with markings up to 1000 meters for 30 versions and up to 500 meters for 33 versions.

Comments

[Per se]

Saiga is a very good gun, by the way, Uncle ... I boar currency with him, if that ...

[bogart047]

the valor of boars is not great. It's like beating children in a ring with 100 kilos of weight.

[BARKHAN]

Quote: bogart047

the valor of boars is not great. It's like beating children in a ring with 100 kilos of weight

Quote: Romanenko

Hunting with rifled rifles, semi-automatic rifles and just rifles is unsportsmanlike.

You can immediately see the sofa hunters .. Have you both seen the boar at least once live? If the bill is chopped, you can put 200 kilograms of wounded worms and then you can put bricks under you ... I tell people who did not hold weapons in their hands ... Presence of a semi-automatic rifle with optics in hand doesn’t make you a shooter yet. I guarantee that a dozen rounds aren’t enough. You need to learn to shoot !!! And still ... excitement, breathless running, adrenaline, shaking hands ... that’s what hunting. We have guys who shoot wild boars so that they can bring meat to the family. And the "athletes" let them shoot at the banks. And the "baloboly theorists" do not put their snotty nose into the hunt. For example, I don’t have periods, so I don’t want to advise women on this. So, only hunters should decide about hunting.

[Engineer]

Simple hunters from double-barreled smooth-bore go to the boar, and learn to shoot generally from a single-barrel. And when the lines in the forest are heard like from a machine gun, scaring away the game within a radius of 10 km, they say: city derales came in large numbers.

[BARKHAN]

Quote: Engineer

Simple hunters from double-barreled smooth-bore go to the boar, and learn to shoot generally from a single-barrel. And when the lines in the forest are heard like from a machine gun, scaring away the game within a radius of 10 km, they say: city derales came in large numbers.

What you are telling was about 30 years ago. Firstly, you cannot get a license for an ordinary hunter. So they go poaching. We work out licenses with our team in the fields, feed the animals, try not to let strangers. There are not many licenses, therefore there is no aesthetics. Collective hunting it’s a lot of work of a group of people, it’s not to go to the store. And the money for preparation and the hunt itself always takes more than the cost of meat. Our hunt is a gathering of like-minded people who are interested in increasing the livestock and preserving traditions. We protect queens and do not let young animals die in winter from hunger. Do couch experts know that 80 percent of young wild boar die in harsh winter simply from starvation? They don’t know what to do. But if you take out the queen bees, the wild boar will not be at all, or it will go to the neighboring lands from excessive pressure.

[Engineer]

What you are telling was about 30 years ago

What are you? Have fun. No, well, Izh-58 is already bigger for his father, though he rarely takes it now - the trunk is heavy, it gets tired.

Firstly, a simple hunter cannot get a license.

Well, for a poacher, my dad would tell you where to go with your brigade to hunt, so as not to write here. Lectures about wild boar are very informative, but I saw minke whales at an age when I couldn’t hold a gun myself.

[BARKHAN]

Quote: Engineer

Well, for a poacher, my dad would tell you where

And what exactly was it wrong I wrote? Maybe you want to say that your dad regularly buys licenses? And without it, any hunting-poaching. And no matter how long the hunter has experience.

Quote: Engineer

my dad would tell you where to go with your brigade

Thank you, I have enough of my lands. And they are in order.

[BARKHAN]

Quote: Engineer

and learn to shoot at all from a single-barrel.

On the contrary, I came to the end to a single-barrel ... MP-18M-M in plastic. But, if you need to climb into the debris of a logging machine for wounded animals, only a semiautomatic rifled ... dogs will not always be kept. Favorite hunting is still a lonely self-drunk ... quail , partridge, hazel grouse, black grouse, ducklings.
..winter fox, hare ...

[Engineer]

I studied on Izh-58 with one cartridge - my father spoke the barrel, and you yourself think what kind of trigger to reap). We don’t have black grouse, yes, ducks, woodcock, hazel grouse, even quail do not catch by force. The foxes are sea, the hare has become few. Wolves come in, as Don overshoots roe and elk. There are wild boars, especially now all animal husbandry is abandoned, all pastures, ravines and hollows are overgrown - they are expanse. In summer, you can often see traces along the sowing.

[Romanenko]

Hunting with rifled rifles, semi-automatic rifles and just rifles is unsportsmanlike.
Previously, they did the right thing that the screws were not sold to amateurs, the amateur hunter is a person who LOVES hunting and nature, the rest are butchers.
If you consider yourself a hunter, then take a smooth-bore and go up to the game 40-50 meters. The chances should be a bit even, but from a rifled one it is a shooting and not a hunt.

[Per se]

Damn, Uncle ... I agree ........... Now they shamed me, well done, well, what ... But I don’t use this

[Romanenko]

Don’t blame it. Just really try the "classics", you will see, you will like it, and you will feel like a real hunter.
And leave the saiga on the banks to shoot at 100-150 meters, also beautiful!

[Comrade Schucher]

Quote: Romanenko

And leave the saiga on the banks to shoot at 100-150 meters, also beautiful!

I have a "Saiga-20C" with a short barrel, the pellet is thrown so-so, 20-25 meters. But the beauty of bullets 80-100, I prefer the "Vyatka" and "Field".

[tracer]

And .... and you sorry, were you at least once on a hunt? Equal odds? And you arm the boar then, and put a helmet on it for fidelity .... And in a duel through the "card" call the seconds. Wild boar is a strong and ferocious animal strong on a wound. Not every bullet of an easy-to-fire breech will hit a killer’s bullet. You say so to your wife, "I’m going to the forest to hunt a wild boar and I want to level the chances with him." I think you won’t leave further than the madhouse, or the “billhook” will attack you right in the hallway. With a double-barrel, you can hunt for krupnyak at a pig farm. And in the forest ... However, what do you want in the forest? You only saw him in the pictures on the box.

[Romanenko]

And you, excuse me, go hunting in a helmet on a wild boar in camouflage?
Or play war in war games, then the choice of weapons is clear.
With a 40 meter Brennik bullet of a boar of any size, you can fill up, unless of course the knees are shaking.
Well, if scared, then hit from 100 meters.
For reference, I have been a member of the hunting community since 1975.

[tracer]

I played enough in my war games. For what I have homeland awards. And believe me, my knees don’t shake .... And since 1975, they’ve been measured as a “member”, it’s not here, other sites are there for this, show it there as much as you want. From 40 meters, a bullet will fly at least to a brand, at least a vyatka, at least the cannonball of Munich, will be at least 25-30 cm. The field is better, but the masa is less. And where do you get to the slaughter place? This is not an elk, this is a wild boar .... I doubt that you even saw him live. With such knowledge, I do not advise you to go for a wild boar, so that later you don’t listen to terrible stories.

[bogart047]

how many boars do you think killed people in a fierce hunt? and how many people are wild boars? A man going hunting, thinks what he will do when he returns ... But there is no boar ... He will not return.

[tracer]

"He will not return, what a pity," thought the hunter in the bush, kissing a double-barreled shotgun loaded in both trunks of the great-grandfather's "brandneka". ... "Would eat something," the boar thought, scratched his right side with his back foot and grunted gently lowered the snout to the roots of the grass .... The grass was not very tasty, some kind of bitter, "apparently last year's spring fell bitterly on the grass," thought wild boar, and busily sorting through fattened rolls, it is seeded along a small ravine overgrown with dry bushes and the same thin grass, which is of no interest at all for a snack. Suddenly there was a roar, the powerful body of the "seasoned" shrank like a spring, another second and hooves would dominate him to a strong bush nearby, and there, there, "look for the wind in the field." It rumbled even more, the pain burned his bristled chest. Hellfire flashed throughout the body and suddenly, on the way he appears, the one who brought him this pain. He stands in indecision and not far (40 meters) in his pose, indecision and fear. “You won’t leave the bastard,” a thought flickered and strong legs with the furious speed of the last jerk of the sprinter before the finish were carried against him, against the one who challenged him. Having easily overturned the enemy, with the blow of powerful fangs he trampled him pretty, mixing his blood and his own, with autumn mud and fallen leaves, the seasoned seeding away from this terrible place. The wound swelled with blood, the blood oozed and trickled down from both legs. Slightly staggering, but having finally regained consciousness, he walked and thought that today he would certainly return to his innermost couch, which was chosen last week in a strong place by the stream. But the one who challenged will not return. He will remain there until a crafty crow or other starving forest dwellers pull him apart. It was getting dark, the grass tickled his ears and chilled his burnt chest, the billhiker unhurriedly ran through its forest, leaving behind a strip in the grass, barely visible in the falling darkness.
Well, you see .... Your wild boar has survived and will certainly recover, which can never be said about the hunter who shot the Brenneke at a boar from 40 meters .... Hunters ... from the 75th size ...

[parkello]

I agree with you Tracer. I myself had to puff for someone else's car. by the way the new Mitsubishi peak was up, 5-door .with a body ... 20.000 mileage in total. shot him, she take it and rush to the car. crushed the whole front end to the buoys. demolished the bamber, struck the radiator. demolished the radiator belt .. the engine knocked with the result. and they told me about equality ... uncles ... and this is not the first time that a boar has damaged my reputation and property. These creatures need to be wetted from all that is possible, and most importantly, always be out of reach, best of all on a truck or on a tree platform. and then ... and isho with a double-barreled gun on a wild boar ... yes, you go ... by leaps and bounds .. Lord noble ... and not very

[enot73]

Quote: Romanenko

Previously, they did the right thing that the screws were not sold to amateurs, the amateur hunter is a person who LOVES hunting and nature, the rest are butchers.
If you consider yourself a hunter - take the smoothbore

So after all, the right to buy rifles must wait five years. and initially issue a license only for smoothbore. As for the Saiga, I would single out the MK-107 model, with balanced automation (based on the experimental AK-15). Shoots without recoil

[Romanenko]

Yes, who argues, a great weapon with a more or less affordable price

[Tatarin83]

107 no one has seen saigas from mere mortals. They promise for 3 years how to release and do not release. And the price she will have under 10 pieces seems.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Romanenko

Hunting with rifled rifles, semi-automatic rifles and just rifles is unsportsmanlike.

You write nonsense. Firstly, there can’t be “rifled automatic machines” on a hunt, read ZoO; secondly, rifled weapons for a number of hunts and game are simply necessary.

Quote: Romanenko

so take a smooth-bore and go up to the game 40-50 meters.

Approach the wolves in the tundra or the steppe at 40-50 with a double-barreled shotgun, approach the bear in the oat field at the same distance. And then get "in place" so that Misha will not eat you instead of oats.

[Romanenko]

Often do you bear bears with wolves?
Overcome go, no mushrooms in the tundra to collect, no oats for porridge

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Romanenko

Often do you bear bears with wolves?

I AM? No. But ask about the bears and wolves of the inhabitants of the Urals, Siberia, the Far East, the Caucasus, the Stavropol Territory or Kalmykia. They will tell you how to "noble" hunt wolves or bears. If you are already starting to smear pink snot about the “right” hunt, then think about the fact that an accurate shot from a rifled weapon allows you to put the beast in place, without unnecessary torment, and then not run after the wounded animal through the forest.

Quote: Romanenko

Overcome go, no mushrooms in the tundra to collect, no oats for porridge

Overcome, not overcome ask reindeer herders or shepherds.

[Romanenko]

Chabanov didn’t ask, but I often meet with reindeer herders at work, they didn’t complain so much.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Romanenko

and I often meet with reindeer herders at work, they didn’t complain so much.

This is Google promptly issued:
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uchilis-pasti-oleney-632822
http://oioh.ru/ohotniche-hozyajstvo-i-promysel/vo
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http://tass.ru/v-strane/3966177
https://rg.ru/2012/02/01/reg-sibfo/volki.html ну и дальше.

[BARKHAN]

Quote: Vladimirets

Write nonsense

Yes, he is not a hunter.

Quote: Romanenko

I am a member of the hunting community since 1975

I know such people. With a rusty pipe in the safe, to shoot for bottles, I have been hunting for 20 years, my neighbor hasn’t gone hunting, although I have a gun. I hunt a lot. And lately I have to climb wounded animals more because of the "shooters" with boltoviks The terrain is rugged, wooded a lot of ravines and gullies. So that the boar only “flickers” from the corral ... and unnecessary manipulation of bolts when reloading + handwork produces wounded animals. The bolt is good only from the tower and the ghosts. "...

[Romanenko]

A mistake came out, respected BARKHAN, I had already delivered my rusty pipe IZH-12 to scrap metal for a long time, although I felt sorry for it - I stayed from my father.
The animals are pitiful - too many butchers have divorced, soon there will be no game left.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Romanenko

It's a pity for the animals - too many butchers divorced

And you probably do not eat meat?

[Topotun]

That's just the trouble with the supply of a cartridge, while the store is not shaman .... And yes, I like it. True, my caliber is more modest than the Saiga-410K ....

[Alexdark]

You would still go with them RPG7

[Maz]

What about the price? The machine is good, just for self-defense in Ukraine. From I ask for the price

[Gray brother]

Quote: Maz

What about the price?

A little more than twenty - acceptable.

[uav80]

In the "thick chrome" almost 30 reach ...

[Gray brother]

Quote: uav80

In the "thick chrome" almost 30 reach ...

There 5.45 like.

[Maz]

On the drum, life is more expensive

[210ox]

It’s bad that in our Kuban this cannot be used when hunting in the steppe ..

[tracer]

Why are you going to shoot Saigi there? Rabbits in wine-makers or doves, or pheasant, ducks on ponds? According to this, hunting rules exist. And in the Kuban it is especially important because of the population density. WHERE THEY DO NOT POOL TO THE VINEYARD or someone’s garden will fly. You old hunters listen to them there a lot ... And the Satsgi in Krasnodar to the shooting range .. shoot.

[210ox]

Yes, the same wolves and jackals ..
And to Krasnodar, two hundred miles.

Quote: tracer

Why are you going to shoot Saigi there? Rabbits in wine-makers or doves, or pheasant, ducks on ponds? According to this, hunting rules exist. And in the Kuban it is especially important because of the population density. WHERE THEY DO NOT POOL TO THE VINEYARD or someone’s garden will fly. You old hunters listen to them there a lot ... And the Satsgi in Krasnodar to the shooting range .. shoot.

[Romario_Argo]

somehow it happened to me that I was very jealous of my property, immovable and movable now I have Q5, I specially equipped a safe in it. Saiga is real - Steel argument in any argument (!)
especially from the fools on our roads.

[210ox]

How will you deploy this trunk (even shortened) in the car? And do not make a cult out of your property, human life is more expensive. Health to you!

Quote: Romario_Argo

somehow it happened to me that I was very jealous of my property, immovable and movable now I have Q5, I specially equipped a safe in it. Saiga is real - Steel argument in any argument (!)
especially from the fools on our roads.

[Romanenko]

In a dispute on the roads, in order not to use weapons, you must first exclude yourself as a SECOND fool

[Gray brother]

Quote: Romario_Argo

especially from the fools on our roads.

Sitting after fools? Or stay without a license, for weapons ready for battle, if the cops stop?
If you can’t quite, without artillery, buy THIS for yourself:

And carry with you calmly. It’s not even necessary to shoot from it, it’s enough to show - there are few [stupid people] to shave.

[Romario_Argo]

In the Russian Federation, the production of trimmings is considered illegal in accordance with 223 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation Possession of a sawn-off shotgun is prosecuted in accordance with Part 1 of Article 222 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation “Illegal circulation of weapons, ammunition, explosive and toxic substances”

[Gray brother]

Quote: Romario_Argo

Cutting is considered illegal in the Russian Federation

This is an injury, MP-341))) On sale.
They are practically not bought, so few people know about this thing, hence the psychological effect.

[Tolstoevsky]

such a mortar will pull the hands to the ground, and wear it with one hemorrhoids. Is it Wasp

[Gray brother]

Quote: Tolstoevsky

such a mortar will pull the hands to the ground, and wear it with one hemorrhoids.

Yes, but the main thing here is to impress the opponent. I do not propose to carry it in a holster, but for a car it is a worthy accessory.
As for the holster, I was not joking.

[Foundling]

And then I kept thinking - where did the Terminator go

[Gray brother]

Quote: Foundling

And then I kept thinking - where did the Terminator go

He had no holster .

[Foundling]

Safe then why in the car? I drive my MA-136-03 in a seat cover.

[Mountain shooter]

And why is he a carbine? Normal machine. It’s easy to “refine” automatic shooting ...

[Romanenko]

But why?
On the upcoming chains of hares or squadrons of ducks bursts of thrashing?
Self-loading saves, moreover, your funds for the acquisition of BC

[Topotun]

Well, it’s just as easy to block and the firing limiter with folded butt. But why?

[Tolstoevsky]

It’s easy to finish, then it’s hard to sit for it

[Foundling]

Buy PPSh-O, and there’s no need to modify anything except a drop of welding on the converter

[Roma 1977]

Whatever tricks the manufacturer goes to bypass weapons laws. "Hunting" - how so!

[tracer]

Not sts ... everything is normal. I just can’t buy it. Our laws prohibit such weapons in Canada. Do you know why? It is scary. I am not kidding.

[Tatarin83]

Googled AR-15 Califiornia, Bred over American Laws

[unignm]

I hope after buying a file, why do not you need to finish it?

[gammipapa]

I haven’t written here for a long time, but they commented on the topic so well that I decided to drop my five cents too.
Just before I sat down at the computer, I was loading cartridges, I was hunting tomorrow. I have been hunting all my life since childhood. Friends are also all serious hunters and the topic of rifled weapons in conversations is often raised. ... As practice has shown to normal hunters, it does not need nafik. It’s just stupidly not necessary and there are a lot of excuses for this.
1- every year it is necessary to carry to the regional center for shooting - for a long time and hemorrhagic
2- cartridges 300-500 rubles, you don’t really mess with the thing, it’s really expensive.
3- you still have to get out of it! especially from a distance of more than 100 meters then.
4 - the lethal force of a 12-gauge bullet just hellish shreds tear from the back, the stopping action is not comparable.
5- there is always a choice than to shoot a bullet or shot at a smooth-bore
6 - the price of the weapon itself + of course you want a good scope, also money.
And you can list for a long time, but I do not need it, my love is 54 and the like.
Maybe I'm wrong, but this is my opinion, one of millions.

[BARKHAN]

Quote: gammipapa

1- every year it is necessary to carry to the regional center for shooting - for a long time and hemorrhagic

Nonsense. Once in five years. All procedure of minutes 20.

Quote: gammipapa

2- cartridges 300-500 rubles, you don’t really mess with the thing, it’s really expensive.

Чушь.7,62х39-12 руб...7,62х51-19-21руб....7,62х54-23-28руб...

Quote: gammipapa

3- you still have to get out of it! especially from a distance of more than 100 meters then.

No comments.

Quote: gammipapa

5- there is always a choice than to shoot a bullet or shot at a smooth-bore

A normal hunter usually goes to get a specific beast. Well, if you grumble to the right and left then yes ...

Quote: gammipapa

6 - the price of the weapon itself + of course you want a good scope, also money.

If you do not plump and do not smoke, then for two three months it is quite possible to buy.

Quote: gammipapa

And you can list for a long time, but I don’t need it

Frankly, it’s just that authorization doesn’t give a go-ahead for some reason ... And if the soul does not lie, then why should I list all the "cons"?

[Pulya]

Frankly, it’s just that authorization doesn’t give a go-ahead for some reason ... And if the soul does not lie, then why should I list all the "cons"?

In my opinion this is the point!

[Foundling]

In the district center it is very surprising if you visit them every year! It was once every five years, now every FIFTEEN! What kind of ammunition is 500 rubles? Nitro Express or for Barret? 10 scars average price for 7,62x39. The stopping effect is not comparable if point blank, and after 100-150 meters your smooth-bore poker turns into a not very aesthetic oar.

[Chever]

But in my opinion it doesn’t matter how and with what to go on a game. The main thing is not to mine in excess

[stolz]

Quote: By itself

Saiga is a very good gun, by the way, Uncle ... I boar currency with him, if that ...

And why did they do you a bad thing, that you deprive their lives, maybe you have nothing to eat? Do not tell fables about romance and excitement, still no one will believe. At one time, in my youth, in Afghanistan, I also had a “rustle" of SVD. With his help, I created such a frail spiritual cemetery there, but now it’s unpleasant for me to look at any weapon, even in the photo. I was shot.

[Foundling]

Do not eat meat?

[stolz]

Quote: Foundling

Do not eat meat?

And you, maybe that?