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Ukrainian media: In the ATO zone, relations between the Ukrainian Armed Forces and the Nabat battered

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In the area of ​​the "special operation" of the Ukrainian security forces in the Donbass relations between the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the divisions of the national battalions, who are fighting in the east of the country without the official consent of Kiev, have become sharper, said Verkhovna Rada deputy Oksana Korchinskaya.


She noted that the commanders of the Armed Forces of Ukraine received an unofficial order to "crush and drive out" volunteers, reports Strana.ua.

Her words were also confirmed by the commander of the volunteer battalion of the Ukrainian Volunteer Army (UDL) with the call sign Cherven, who claims that the volunteer units in the last months were "blocked" at the front line - the Ukrainian Armed Forces do not allow them to fight.

Ukrainian media: In the ATO zone, relations between the Ukrainian Armed Forces and the Nabat battered


One of the personnel officers of the headquarters of ATO, on condition of anonymity, stated that there are about 1,5 thousand volunteers on the front line, including the Right Sector * detachment, the UDA 5 battalion under the command of Druha Cherny in Marinka - battalion UDA "Aratta", and on the front line several mobile UDA task forces.

At the same time there is no de jure battalions there. Officially they are considered to be volunteers, in case of death they are not included in the lists of losses. At the same time, they "rush into battle and allow themselves completely unpredictable actions on the front lines." As an example, the actions of the 25 UDA unit in February 2017 of the year, which arbitrarily seized the Donetsk pumping station, provoking an exacerbation, are given. Often conducted military raids contrary to the plans of command.

At the same time, as the officers admitted, the headquarters of the “ATO” considered the possibility of an operation to seize the pumping station, but “a scandal began” and “everyone piled on UDA and anarchy.”

In UDA argue that the differences with the headquarters of "ATO" - a temporary misunderstanding. At the same time, some of the representatives of volunteers note that "the high command division of volunteers on the front line is a bone in the throat and a source of unpredictable actions."

We have all these Minsk agreements to one place, we are going to the "ATO" to fight, and not to sit stupidly in the trenches and wait for the weather by the sea. Therefore, we are not loved at headquarters and frankly afraid
- Said one of the fighters of the 5-th battalion UDD.

Right Sector * - extremist organization banned in Russia
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 13 September 2017 20: 44
    +11
    Well, beat each other's faces. You deserve it .. And those and others ..
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 13 September 2017 20: 45
      +6
      Quote: 210ox
      Well, beat each other's faces. You deserve it .. And those and others ..

      I think this is a lie to the public, such as "look how uncontrollable they are."
      If there can be a showdown between them, then only for the topic is delicious.
      1. Zibelew
        Zibelew 13 September 2017 21: 11
        +8
        Relations between the UGIL and Al-Nasru have escalated.
        1. Thrall
          Thrall 13 September 2017 21: 16
          +7
          Everything is simple - feed both of them with American anthracite, and the tummies will work properly. As for conflicts, let them kill each other - the air will be cleaner, and the noses will breathe more fun smile
          1. The black
            The black 13 September 2017 22: 36
            +4
            In the anti-terrorist operation zone pigs from national bats did not divide slop with pigs from APU ...
        2. antivirus
          antivirus 13 September 2017 21: 28
          +2
          creatively. Urgant and Comedy Club lost the lead.
        3. Victor-M
          Victor-M 14 September 2017 01: 00
          +1

          No comments! laughing
      2. NIKNN
        NIKNN 13 September 2017 22: 11
        +3
        Quote: Gray Brother
        I think this is a lie to the public

        I agree. We are all adults and based on the fact that most of the military, well, it’s kind of dumb to believe all this, I’d better believe my intelligence service ... request
        1. Slovak
          Slovak 13 September 2017 23: 34
          0
          do you call them military? No, these are armed scumbags
          1. NIKNN
            NIKNN 14 September 2017 01: 06
            +3
            Quote: Slovak
            do you call them military? No, these are armed scumbags

            Well, no matter how, but forced to consider them in some way military ... because the armed ... and they also need to oppose weapons, which means war, and the word is the same root military ...
    2. Per se
      Per se 13 September 2017 20: 47
      +6
      No ... The military did not deserve. The Nazis deserved ... They are already tired of the warriors too ...
      1. 210ox
        210ox 13 September 2017 20: 52
        +7
        The military didn’t deserve it? And who bombed Lugansk and Donetsk, who sat behind the arms of the tanks? Conscripts? Not at all. They knew what they were going for. And they were going for money. I specifically took the quotes in quotes — these were not fighters, but punitive.
        Quote: By itself
        No ... The military did not deserve. The Nazis deserved ... They are already tired of the warriors too ...
        1. Per se
          Per se 13 September 2017 21: 01
          +5
          That's how many years we've been arguing, Dim ... I have a couple of Relatives there, I know what I'm talking about ... That's exactly what the recruits, damn it ...They are bonded ...
        2. Mih1974
          Mih1974 14 September 2017 02: 58
          +1
          Tell the truth, let alone artillery, and even less so, a “point” to flinch - no Natsik can ever. It’s not just that you need to learn, here you need ABILITY. It’s not drunk d .. cherries put two mines into the “pipe”.
    3. Cutter
      Cutter 13 September 2017 20: 49
      +12
      Yes, they would shoot more quickly, it would become easier for people! request
      1. Solomon Kane
        Solomon Kane 13 September 2017 21: 12
        +7
        Sasha, good evening!
        Soon, they will begin a different "smut" - Misha Tbilisi arrived on tour ....
        In Kiev, the movement is expected ....
    4. enot73
      enot73 13 September 2017 20: 56
      +2
      Quote: 210ox
      Well, hit each other's faces. You deserve it .. And those and others.
      !
      1. Abigor
        Abigor 13 September 2017 21: 08
        +3
        Yes, there will arrive there e''Popa ''!
    5. antivirus
      antivirus 13 September 2017 21: 26
      0
      a lot of screeching was "in 41 g militia with 1 rifle for 3 people"
      how "Hiroi glory" harrow "the outskirts.
      maybe, as given for a week (in turn, 1 to 3 people) - you need to learn how to shoot.
      it is excusable.
      1. Per se
        Per se 13 September 2017 21: 56
        +4

        There are the same ...
        1. Olegovi4
          Olegovi4 14 September 2017 00: 02
          +2
          Quote: By itself
          There are the same ...

          stsuka, and then sings black-headed in Russian. why not on mov?
          1. Per se
            Per se 14 September 2017 00: 57
            +4
            Because Russian ...
          2. 72jora72
            72jora72 14 September 2017 05: 43
            +3
            stsuka, and then sings black-headed in Russian. why not on mov?
            I will say more, all operational negotiations are conducted in pure Russian (at least in the 14-15th year), and I don’t think that something has changed right now.
        2. Mih1974
          Mih1974 14 September 2017 03: 11
          +2
          Crying for a dead "bonded dill," or do you sympathize with their relatives? Well look and show them this
        3. Mih1974
          Mih1974 14 September 2017 03: 31
          +3
          Draftees say bonded ah ah. Yes, only we believe that

          and this
          https://vk.com/video124141774_171481665
          and this
          https://youtu.be/6kmBUvH00P8
          But who really deserves compassion (already condolences) but Heroes, enlighten -
        4. Mih1974
          Mih1974 14 September 2017 03: 37
          +1
          These of your "servile boys" as well as the rest of ukrovermaht scum - NEED to be exterminated to the last !! In 1945, they regretted, not everyone was redirected, so they walk around Kiev with torchlight marches (or walked until they died).
  2. Herculesic
    Herculesic 13 September 2017 20: 46
    +3
    Yes, kill you there alone, the air will become cleaner with each dead "soul-mate" or "good-killers"!
  3. Andrey Goncharenko
    Andrey Goncharenko 13 September 2017 21: 04
    +6
    Let VSUshniki shoot Natsik, and then go to Kiev. There are empty lampposts.
  4. pvv113
    pvv113 13 September 2017 21: 08
    +5
    Officially they are considered volunteers.

    Although they are marauders
  5. Catherine II
    Catherine II 13 September 2017 21: 27
    +1
    The country is a well-known opposition resource (Oppoblock), almost the main mouthpiece through which what is being done and what similar media are not talking about. Attempts to outlaw it have not been successful.
    I think, thanks to this, the chances of Boyko and the company increase greatly.
    One of the few sources that can be read in the country.
    I read the article in the original source. Nothing much has changed in a couple of years. Volunteers, volunteers, when needed, they are turned to use them, when not needed - they are substituted. Gimp 3 of the year already, so no exacerbations. Since this topic has long been commonplace. It will not affect a situation in anti-terrorist operation. APU many times exceed all these UDDs with others. Yes, and they have better stability.
    1. Vita vko
      Vita vko 13 September 2017 23: 20
      0
      Quote: Catherine II
      It will not affect a situation in anti-terrorist operation. APU many times exceed all these UDDs with others. Yes, and they have better stability.

      About the Golden Eagle units, they also thought so, until these neo-Nazis in UDA did not carry out a military coup in 2014. And as the events of all past years show, it is they who are the real "masters" in Ukraine, it is not for nothing that the CIA puts it on them, not on the "official authorities".
    2. Olegovi4
      Olegovi4 14 September 2017 00: 04
      +1
      Quote: Catherine II
      Volunteers, volunteers, when needed, they are turned to use them, when not needed - they are substituted.

      if volunteers pick up weapons and capture objects, then these are not volunteers. and it’s right that both of them are being buried.
  6. Tusv
    Tusv 13 September 2017 21: 34
    0
    I can only say one thing. Amen
  7. Geisenberg
    Geisenberg 13 September 2017 21: 43
    0
    Pravosek pravosek lupus est! )))
  8. Ferdinant
    Ferdinant 13 September 2017 21: 54
    0
    While $ is being earned, all this will continue, agree
  9. HEATHER
    HEATHER 13 September 2017 22: 59
    +3
    Well, beat each other. Normal people is only a plus.
  10. stolz
    stolz 13 September 2017 23: 23
    0
    Quote: Black
    In the anti-terrorist operation zone pigs from national bats did not divide slop with pigs from APU ...

    Why apu pigs? To be fair, they serve in accordance with the laws of their country, faithful to the oath and military duty, carry out the orders (albeit stupid) of their higher command. What are their complaints?
    But what can be called tankers who shot from tank guns in 1993, in Moscow, through the White House?
    1. Mih1974
      Mih1974 14 September 2017 03: 41
      +2
      In 1945, in the city of Nuremberg, some also grunted about "we only obeyed orders" - they hung ALL of them !! am And for this they will come and for them they will tie a loop.
    2. Tolstoevsky
      Tolstoevsky 14 September 2017 07: 20
      0
      appreciated your humor joke
  11. aszzz888
    aszzz888 14 September 2017 01: 48
    +1
    in Donbass, relations between the command of the Armed forces of Ukraine and units of the national battalions escalated,
    ... yes, let them there EVERYTHING flatter themselves, I will not cry ... wassat
  12. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 14 September 2017 04: 23
    0
    A bunch of computer nerds who have grown up on shooting games doesn't get to their dumb brains that they kill in the ATO for real and not virtually. It's a pity the boys. use them when cutting dough.
  13. 72jora72
    72jora72 14 September 2017 05: 34
    0
    Do you seriously believe that at the forefront of the national battalions are fighting on their own ???
  14. Tolstoevsky
    Tolstoevsky 14 September 2017 07: 19
    0
    more pomegranate to them
  15. Vanek
    Vanek 14 September 2017 10: 15
    +3
    Quote: Victor-M
    No comments!


    What hohloma (unless we are about art) ???? What are Darth Vaders ???? And other Divisions ???? But it tells you:

    We have all these Minsk agreements to one place, we go in the ATO fight, rather than sit stupidly in the trenches and wait by the sea for weather.

    GOES GO TO KILL. Goes to kill. What do not you understand? It is an animal. Although even animals do not. Who is it?
  16. kdakda
    kdakda 14 September 2017 12: 12
    0
    Let's shoot each other. Dear Ukrainian patriots. Give a couple of thousand dead Ukrainian patriots.