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Cyber ​​weapons against our children or wake up in 4-20

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Cyber ​​weapons against our children or wake up in 4-20Good day, dear readers. I want to talk to you about the threat that he faced not so long ago. My son, who is 11 years old, told me that he installed a game on his phone, I quote: "The game of suicides". He was advised by a teenager familiar from the yard, and since my son is curious, he uploaded it to the phone.


I previously heard about these games, they are surprisingly very much in the internet. Moreover, in the social. networks arise every day new communities of teens who play these games. It would seem that you ask me: "But why talk about some" children's toys "on the Internet resource, which discusses serious adult topics." And I will answer you, - These "children's computer toys" are the most serious weaponkilling our children.

And now, in order, you will decide how dangerous this threat is and whether it is worth discussing at all. And so ... I will tell only about a few "games", which account for more than one thousand children's lives.

The first game I want to talk about is the game "Run or die." The essence of the game is that the child’s curator of the game gives the task to run as close as possible in front of the passing car. Do you think this is nonsense? Here are videos of such "runs".

But on the spot these teenagers can be your child.

The second game, which I would like to tell you about, is "Escape from home on the 24 hour." The essence of this kind of harmless game is to run away from home without warning anyone and not contacting anyone for 24 hours. At the same time, it is necessary to communicate your location to the curators of the game, which the child “leads” to such actions.


The next game in this series is the game Quiet House. This game slowly and systematically leads a teenager to suicide. During the game, the curators of the game, communicating with the child, will learn a lot of information about the family, the child itself, personal data, addresses and phone numbers ... and if at some point the child wants to leave the game, blackmail will be used, threats, etc. ... "Quiet House" is an analogue of the game "Blue Whale" ... To make it clear what I was talking about, I copied all the 50 tasks of this game, which are given by the curators of these games to teenagers.

Full list of tasks for the blue whale.

On the hand blade cut f57
Wake up in 4.20 and watch scary videos.
Cut arm along veins (not deep). Only three cuts
Draw a whale on a piece of paper.
If you are ready to become a whale - you write on the leg with a "yes" blade.
If not, then you do whatever you want with your hand (many cuts and so on).
The job with the cipher as a quest.
Scrape f40.
Write in status # I whale.
Must overcome your fear. Get up at 4.20 and go to the roof.
It is necessary to scratch a whale on the hand or draw it.
All day long watching scary videos.
Listen to the music they send you.
Cut your lip.
Poke a hand with a needle.
Make yourself hurt.
Hang onto the biggest roof and stand on the edge.
Climb to the bridge.
Get on the crane.
Trust test.
It is necessary to talk on skype with a whale.
Sit down with your feet on the edge of the roof.
Again the job with the cipher.
The secret mission.
Meet the whale.
You are told the date of death, and you must accept it.
In 4.20 go on rails.
Do not communicate with anyone.
Swear you are whale
From 30-th to 49-th day of the game you wake up every day, watch videos, listen to music and every day make a new cut on your arm, talk to a whale. On the 50 day, the task is to commit suicide.


And this is not a joke and not a game. Children are slowly and surely forced by thousands to suicide, hammering into their heads one uncomplicated, but murderous thought - SUICIDE - IT IS NOT SCARY.


As it turned out, there were quite a few groups in which impressionable teenagers were provoked to suicide. The names of the most popular ones are: "Blue whale", "Whales swim up", "Wake me up in 4: 20", f57 or f58, "Silent house", "Rina", "Nyapoka", "Sea of ​​whales", "50 days before my ... "

If you have children, check which groups in OK, VC, Mayle, etc. they are in, ask about what your child lives and what "breathes". It is necessary to inform children how important it is to resist manipulation from social networks.

The emergence of such games that can affect the minds of children and adolescents in the world of computers, the Internet, mobile phones, tablets, I consider one of the varieties of cyber war, or rather one of the ways. And these weapons are used against our children.
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  1. tasha
    tasha 15 September 2017 05: 40
    +6
    The instinct of self-preservation is an innate form of behavior in living beings. When performing such tasks, this instinct is gradually dulled. In addition to mandatory prohibitive measures, exercises are needed to develop survival skills. At least in physical education classes at school.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 15 September 2017 05: 56
      +23
      These "administrators" by the legs, and against the wall .. That would forever am
      1. tasha
        tasha 15 September 2017 06: 12
        +3
        It goes without saying.
        Only proactive measures are needed, the development of the ability to withstand modern methods of manipulating consciousness. And the question is how to build a society without towers? :)
        1. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 15 September 2017 09: 55
          +15
          Quote: tasha
          And the question is how to build a society without towers? :)

          This is the same as asking: how to create an organism without an IMMUNE SYSTEM! You are mentally (intellectually) sick with AIDS once you are trying to act as a whore in matters of life or death of children!
          Quote: tasha
          Only proactive measures are needed
          . Of course we need ... Who argues!
          Here are just scumbags creating such sites hiding behind anonymity, ensuring impunity for themselves. Therefore, I am definitely for the cancellation of anonymity on the Internet, and the addresses, last names, names of the owner of the blog should be issued at the very first request. Then maybe they even fear Lynch’s court of angry parents? For example: bring the instigator under the little white hands morons to the edge of the roof and convincingly ask to show how to jump from it ... onto the asphalt .... If necessary - help ... with a heavy kick in the ass! Then it will surely become less willing to risk their own and not others' lives and health!
          And if it comes to court, the jury of such parents will justify - were in a state of passion! And let them only try to do otherwise!
          IMHO.
          1. tasha
            tasha 15 September 2017 10: 04
            +1
            This is the same as asking: how to create an organism without an IMMUNE SYSTEM! You are mentally (intellectually) sick with AIDS once you are trying to act as a whore in matters of life or death of children!


            The meaning of my comment was different. But since you, faced with something incomprehensible to you, make absolutely stupid and idiotic conclusions, I will not explain to you. Calm down and think about people well.
          2. Anglorussian
            Anglorussian 15 September 2017 10: 13
            +3
            I’m definitely for the cancellation of anonymity in the Internet, and addresses, surnames
            And you also need to install surveillance cameras in everyone’s bedrooms to catch pedophiles. Those who do not agree with these measures are pedophiles, of course wassat . In this way, Internet coupons will be introduced soon. For trustworthy and morally stable (according to the conclusion of the commission yes ) Agree?
            1. NEXUS
              15 September 2017 10: 16
              +13
              Quote: Anglorussian
              And you also need to install surveillance cameras in everyone’s bedrooms to catch pedophiles. Those who do not agree with these measures are pedophiles, of course. In this way, Internet coupons will be introduced soon. For trustworthy and morally stable (according to the conclusion of the commission) Agree?

              And if we are talking about the life of your child, and not the neighbor, do you agree? Will you also sit hogging and grimacing?
              1. Anglorussian
                Anglorussian 15 September 2017 10: 22
                +4
                Not. Because if I agree that they will take away a little freedom from me, then a little more, then another, for my own safety, of course yes in order to feel like a free person, my child will have to emigrate to North Korea good .
                1. 79807420129
                  79807420129 15 September 2017 11: 37
                  +17
                  Quote: Anglorussian
                  Not. Because if I agree that they will take away a little freedom from me, then a little more, then another, for my own safety

                  I feel sorry for you negative you do not love neither your own nor other people's children, and you do not love anyone except yourself, of course. yes And freedom is not freedom here absolutely nothing.
                  1. Anglorussian
                    Anglorussian 15 September 2017 11: 43
                    +4
                    And I am sorry for those who happily stand in the line and settle in the hut so that nothing happens with their carcasses in this "huge and evil outer world." So a little bit and cook the frog. And all under a plausible pretext.
                    1. Shadow of darkness
                      Shadow of darkness 15 September 2017 14: 40
                      +13
                      It’s strange about the freedom to hear from a person whose phone they are listening to and browsing, and on a computer there are a lot of bookmarks that allow you to do the same with the contents of the hard drive. And he receives all this pleasure under the pretext of the fight against terrorism. And then there is industrial espionage, which is also not badly entered into personal life. It's about you, it’s your idols who do it, but it’s not interesting for you, it’s much more important that your freedom is not touched through legislation. Yes, Britain is now heavily combed for terrorist loyalty, so that your telephone conversation and Internet activity can be checked at any time - does it bother you? wassat
                      1. Anglorussian
                        Anglorussian 15 September 2017 14: 41
                        +4
                        Do not confuse a bolt with a finger. And yes, I don’t need a passport to get a SIMcard.
                    2. NEXUS
                      15 September 2017 17: 30
                      +12
                      Quote: Anglorussian
                      And I am sorry for those who happily stand in the line and settle in the hut,

                      Forgive me, do you consider yourself free? Your ministers, senators, and ordinary inhabitants are listened to 24 hours a day. You have people shooting in broad daylight in a cafe. Do you buy a SIM card without a passport? Apparently, this greatly helped Merkel, Oland and others like them.
                      Your accounts, loans, purchases are monitored by banks, special services, various analytic structures ... and you consider yourself free? You live in the freest hut in the world that corporations, your politicians and special services have built for you. You have a circle of surveillance cameras, everywhere control and surveillance. You even knock on your neighbors to get money for the denunciation. And here you talk about freedoms?
                      But you can’t call a gay blue, fat fat ... it’s also a violation of rights and freedoms. But what they say to you is how you can call people, but how you don’t have a right, how is it? Is this not a violation of freedoms?
                      You are an Englishman, but your country has not gone far from the most “FREE” country ... The clearest monument to your freedoms is at the Kuban naval base in Guantanamo Bay (Cuba), with the prison of the same name.
                      1. Anglorussian
                        Anglorussian 15 September 2017 20: 10
                        +1
                        You have people shooting
                        Do not you have? How many murders do you have per capita?
                        You even knock on your neighbors to get money for denouncing
                        This is complete nonsense. Is the source of information Zadornov?
                        Everything else is utter nonsense of the same spill.
                        they tell you how you can call people, but how you do not have a right, how? Is this not a violation of freedoms?
                        By the way, when you come here from your native Moldova, you too cannot be discriminated against and called a dirty guest worker. So anti-discrimination legislation is a double-edged weapon.
                2. Stanislas
                  Stanislas 15 September 2017 16: 18
                  +1
                  Quote: Anglorussian
                  if I agree that some freedom will be taken from me
                  Is your freedom so closely linked to anonymity? Flag in your hands
                  1. Anglorussian
                    Anglorussian 15 September 2017 20: 12
                    +1
                    Flag approve hi
                    1. NEXUS
                      19 September 2017 04: 30
                      +3
                      Quote: Anglorussian
                      This is complete nonsense. Is the source of information Zadornov?

                      You can reassure yourself and convince yourself, dear. But answer me one question, why does London take first place in the world in the number of security cameras on the streets? Now, when you intelligently answer this question to me, then we will speak for freedom.
                      1. Anglorussian
                        Anglorussian 19 September 2017 10: 32
                        0
                        So that the inevitability of punishment (the main postulate of criminal law) hangs over a potential criminal with a swift jack. In addition, they are available. (I installed one myself in the entrance). And in Russia, how many cameras on the streets (mandatory registrars)?
                        I am beginning to understand the reasons why your offspring is suicidal. smile ...
                3. Dedall
                  Dedall 15 September 2017 19: 38
                  +4
                  And what do you mean by "freedom"? there were once “hippies” who also recited the right to “freedom”. Now those who have survived from those “freedoms,” that is, drugs, sex and other things, are corporate directors and congressmen. And it is very significant that the founder of the "freedoms" of that time - Lennon, received a bullet. And can I add the words of Martin Luther King? “I am free, I am finally free.” Written on his grave.
              2. iConst
                iConst 15 September 2017 12: 29
                +5
                Quote: NEXUS
                Quote: Anglorussian
                And you also need to install surveillance cameras in everyone’s bedrooms to catch pedophiles. Those who do not agree with these measures are pedophiles, of course. In this way, Internet coupons will be introduced soon. For trustworthy and morally stable (according to the conclusion of the commission) Agree?

                And if we are talking about the life of your child, and not the neighbor, do you agree? Will you also sit hogging and grimacing?

                The success of counteraction is as always simple: to occupy / enthrall a child / teenager with useful things. My daughter (already independent) did not have particularly great time for idleness: visiting art school for several years, swimming pool, horse riding, and other one-time events. And this, I apologize, crap sharply loses interest. Or there’s no time for it at all.
                1. Svateev
                  Svateev 15 September 2017 12: 52
                  +5
                  Quote: iConst
                  I didn’t have especially great time for idleness:

                  The “loading” of a child does not save from these groups. Rather, on the contrary, a child who is used to obeying someone else’s will and following instructions is more susceptible to these technologies.
                  Do you think that the Olympic champion, European champion and other figure skater Lipnitskaya had a lot of free time for idleness? I think that there was absolutely no free time. Nevertheless, she was hooked on anarexia. Just now on the Internet is her statement. that she quits sports to be treated for anarexia.
                  Below in this discussion, a person’s daughter is also an athlete, medalist, etc. and also - anarexia.
                  Some kind of mr-a-z worked out the technology of planting on this disease.
                  1. iConst
                    iConst 15 September 2017 13: 03
                    +3
                    Quote: Svateev
                    The “loading” of a child does not save from these groups. Rather, on the contrary, a child who is used to obeying someone else’s will and following instructions is more susceptible to these technologies.

                    That's about what I'm talking about. "Fuse" the child away from the eyes, and dad is "busy" - watching football. The child sees this and, through the attitude towards him, all the “instructions”, at least, perceives negatively.

                    I apologize for the harshness - you are a worthless parent (there is or will be). And your false messages are no less evil than these "whales". Someone who is not sophisticated in pedagogy (everything is comprehended by experience and study) will read and take it at face value. And you're lying.
                    1. Svateev
                      Svateev 15 September 2017 13: 55
                      +5
                      Quote: iConst
                      Sorry for the harshness

                      Sorry for that. You should apologize for rudeness. And for his stupidity.
                      Because your sports sections and other "activities" are actually yours, "fuse the child away from the eyes." And let someone do it somewhere somewhere.
                      No, no, I am not against sports and so on. He was engaged. But only those of my friends who smoke and drink began to do it precisely in sports teams - in sports camps and on trips to competitions. When parents don’t see.
                      And about pedagogy ... I have a second (civic) specialty in my diploma - "teacher." And you?
                      1. iConst
                        iConst 15 September 2017 14: 06
                        0
                        Quote: Svateev
                        And about pedagogy ... I have a second (civic) specialty in my diploma - "teacher." And you?

                        No rudeness - especially since I apologized in advance. Only sharpness. Why - explained.
                        You can have anything written in your diploma. I've seen enough of the "certified" "zeros." Do not take to your account.

                        Although in light of this, it is all the more strange to hear such sayings from you.

                        Analyzing the above, I can assume that the negative experience again stems from the formal approach "on the hell." But I didn’t talk about that. You, the teacher certified by the second number, have not heard twice and continue to bend your line.

                        And, the first specialty, if not a secret what?

                        I have experience raising a child, a passion for psychology, philosophy, and working with staff (including young people). I’m talking about practical things.
                2. Anglorussian
                  Anglorussian 15 September 2017 13: 02
                  +2
                  You see how simple it is! Of course, if he plays small hockey or glues airplanes, then he won’t be interested in netics from him. He has time for others. Although I can’t even imagine what kind of intellect you need to possess so that you get to these "games" ...
                  1. iConst
                    iConst 15 September 2017 13: 09
                    +1
                    Quote: Anglorussian
                    You see how simple it is! Of course, if he plays small hockey or glues airplanes, then he won’t be interested in netics from him. He has time for others. Although I can’t even imagine what kind of intellect you need to possess so that you get to these "games" ...

                    Of course, busyness with other things is not a panacea. But this dramatically reduces the likelihood of falling into such groups. Plus, the child / adolescent's self-esteem increases and it becomes more difficult to “unwind” him into stupidity. The social circle affects behavior.

                    Yes, just invite your son / daughter to invite friends / girlfriends on a visit to fight pillows in the evening. This will give at least contact.
                    1. Svateev
                      Svateev 15 September 2017 14: 06
                      +4
                      Quote: iConst
                      preoccupation with other things is not a panacea.

                      Enlightenment has already gone ...
                      Quote: iConst
                      But this dramatically reduces the likelihood of falling into such groups.

                      This is just your beautiful hypothesis. But the facts do not confirm it.
                      We (Volgograd) have recently had two suicides nearby and we know these families. Both children from good families, diligent and obedient, studied in sections and circles. The girl was dragged into a group of suicides in a summer camp (not teachers, of course, but the same girl - a member of the group). The kid got on the Internet.
                      So get distracted from your beautiful theories and look at real life.
                      1. Setrac
                        Setrac 15 September 2017 21: 18
                        +3
                        Quote: Svateev
                        Both children from good families, diligent and obedient

                        The child is accustomed to obey - not good.
                    2. Svateev
                      Svateev 15 September 2017 14: 39
                      +1
                      Quote: iConst
                      And, the first specialty, if not a secret what?

                      For any officer, the first specialty is no secret. I’ll answer for you: the first specialty in my diploma is “officer”. And the practice of bringing up not one child, but three of his own and several hundred strangers.
                      1. iConst
                        iConst 15 September 2017 14: 58
                        0
                        Quote: Svateev
                        My first specialty is "officer".

                        What diploma does “officer” mean?
                        Quote: Svateev
                        This is just your beautiful hypothesis. But the facts do not confirm it.

                        No, this is not my "beautiful" hypothesis. Read about social engineering, secondly a teacher.
                        Quote: Svateev
                        Enlightenment has already gone ...

                        Well, yes, I hope your enlightenment has gone. I already write a bunch of posts where I list the components of success. And I say, but you, as, firstly, an officer, and secondly, a teacher, do not understand that an integrated approach, without falsity, has an effect on the “dump”.
                        You must, as a teacher, secondly, keep this in mind. And I have to chew you such things.

                        So, after all, in what diplomas does the “officer” write? smile
                      2. Svateev
                        Svateev 16 September 2017 09: 39
                        +1
                        Quote: iConst
                        What diploma does “officer” mean?

                        In the diploma of military schools it reads: “An officer with a higher military education, a teacher in ... (or an engineer in ...)” At least it appeared in the USSR. and now every two or three years everything changes, give a "new look" ... Traditionally, higher military institutions were called schools, and students in them - cadets. To people. those who chose a profession associated with a risk to their life differed from spaxes who are looking for a warmer and more satisfying place. But Shpak Serdyukov called schools institutes and students in them became who? "institutes"? or "institutes"?
                        In the last month, traditional names began to return. The Moscow Military Institute (combined arms) again separated from the Academy and proudly calls itself on the site as before - MosVOKU.
                      3. Svateev
                        Svateev 16 September 2017 09: 51
                        0
                        Quote: iConst
                        No, this is not my “beautiful” hypothesis. Read about social engineering,

                        A wonderful example of chastity: "This is not a hypothesis, here the evidence is another hypothesis ..."
                        The facts show you that obedient children are more prone to suicide technology and other nasty things. Yes, and common sense should also lead to the same assumption. But you have your own hypothesis ...
                        By the way, what does “social engineering” say about the exposure of various strata of the population to this engineering? I believe that if I read, I will find that this “engineering” itself just says that organized, disciplined groups of people are more prone to “engineering" than unauthorized and naughty.
                        So you are not involved in the "engineering" case, he is against you.
          3. DEPARTMENT
            DEPARTMENT 18 September 2017 14: 50
            0
            Nexus ... Verification
          4. r4space
            r4space 21 September 2017 09: 05
            0
            I believe that it is necessary to separate the Russian network from the Internet and introduce an electronic passport of a citizen that would provide access to the network. To make it easier to calculate. And also introduce age-related public qualifications in order to protect our children from pornography and violence.
      2. NEXUS
        15 September 2017 08: 35
        +12
        Quote: 210ox
        These "administrators" by the legs, and against the wall .. That would forever am

        The worst thing about all this is that the blow is aimed specifically at children and adolescents, that is, at the nation’s gene pool, no matter how loud it sounds. They break the psyche of children by investing in the minds of not yet strong minds, concepts that contradict life in general and its course.
        1. 210ox
          210ox 15 September 2017 08: 50
          +5
          Andrey, thanks for the article hi This topic has become relevant in the last decade, as well as drug addiction and drunkenness among young people.
          Quote: NEXUS
          Quote: 210ox
          These "administrators" by the legs, and against the wall .. That would forever am

          The worst thing about all this is that the blow is aimed specifically at children and adolescents, that is, at the nation’s gene pool, no matter how loud it sounds. They break the psyche of children by investing in the minds of not yet strong minds, concepts that contradict life in general and its course.
          1. NEXUS
            15 September 2017 08: 53
            +10
            Quote: 210ox
            This topic has become relevant in the last decade, as well as drug addiction and drunkenness among young people.

            I believe that it is necessary to know and talk about it. These children were not soldiers on the battlefield before. But now everything has changed and, in fact, our children have been at the forefront of this cyber war, which doesn’t kill them in games, but in the present.
            1. Jedi
              Jedi 15 September 2017 09: 53
              +11
              The article is very correct! All-in-one virtualization of youth alone does not bring anything good, but this is even more unacceptable!
              1. NEXUS
                15 September 2017 09: 58
                +10
                Quote: Jedi
                but this is even unacceptable!

                Tough measures are needed, in the same legislation for this, in relation to persons who force children to commit suicide, crimes, etc. ... plus parental control. Here one of the members of the forum raised the topic of a pioneer organization. I think I’m even convinced that the organization of the Octobrists, pioneers, Komsomol members is one of the methods of combating this infection. Let the names of these organizations be different, but the essence, I think, is understandable.
                1. Jedi
                  Jedi 15 September 2017 10: 04
                  +15
                  I don’t know how things are with this in Russia, but in Belarus we still have the October Revolutionaries, the pioneers, and the Komsomol analogue (BRSM). These are powerful means of upbringing, but you should not forget about parents, you are right. After all, it is the parents who are the main example, if only these parents really take an active part in shaping the worldview and raising their children.
              2. Setrac
                Setrac 15 September 2017 21: 19
                +1
                Quote: Jedi
                All-in-one virtualization of youth alone does nothing good

                And what is so bad about her?
                1. long in stock.
                  long in stock. 15 September 2017 21: 49
                  +3
                  Well, for example, muscle atrophy and the habit of not being afraid to bark at all obscenely. and then they transfer it to real life and then physical injuries occur ..
                  1. Setrac
                    Setrac 15 September 2017 21: 58
                    0
                    Quote: Long in stock.
                    Well, for example, muscle atrophy

                    And if you just write or read the muscles do not atrophy?
                    Quote: Long in stock.
                    a habit without fear of barking anything obscenely. and then they transfer it to real and then physical injuries already occur ..

                    This is real mats, but in the game for mats they’ll immediately be banned.
                    1. long in stock.
                      long in stock. 16 September 2017 14: 13
                      +1
                      but do you think the child will write or read for days? You’re mistaken. but you’ll be sitting in tyrnet. In real life, they will log in to the game in the face further. Some of them have 4-5 accounts in games. You won’t scare ..
                      1. Jedi
                        Jedi 16 September 2017 14: 46
                        +7
                        You are right - in the virtual world people lose touch with reality, especially for young people. In real life, there is no saving and the ability to replay, the instinct of self-preservation and elementary caution disappear.
                      2. Setrac
                        Setrac 16 September 2017 18: 07
                        0
                        Quote: Long in stock.
                        Do you think the child will write or read for days?

                        Do you think that if you isolate him from the Internet, he will read and write?
                        Quote: Long in stock.
                        real in the face, in the game they move further.

                        Relocating means losing all progress in the game; most gamers will get better in the face than they will lose the character.
                        Quote: Long in stock.
                        some have 4-5 accounts in games. you won’t scare ..

                        It is so small - just break the rules five times.
        2. iConst
          iConst 15 September 2017 12: 38
          0
          Quote: NEXUS
          They break the psyche of children by investing in the minds of not yet strong minds, concepts that contradict life in general and its course.

          It is necessary to take their own psychological techniques and use them in the right, useful direction.
          All stages of human development and the problems of personality formation are well known. The enemy has developed an effective technique using crisis stages.
          I will say with all responsibility: if the child is engaged in crap, uncontrollable, then this is entirely the "merit" of the parents. This stopudovo was "dad is busy", "there is no time for mom", "go away, do something." So they are engaged.

          And the second - the local ones (I put experiments more than once) suggested that instead of forum trepidation, I’ll get down to business: the forum will be like a collection point for finding interested people. Organize and in each within the limits of his habitat he begins to speak with neighbors in order to solve those or other problems that have "got" everyone ... Yeah ... Schschschazz! Tryndindet - this is a great deal. Stomp in righteous anger - oooh!

          So, that formula works: every nation has it as it allows.
          1. NEXUS
            15 September 2017 14: 56
            +4
            Quote: iConst
            It is necessary to take their own psychological techniques and use them in the right, useful direction.

            It is certainly true ... but firstly, such groups are CLOSED. Secondly, what can be offered to a teenager if at the age of 15 he had first love, and unrequited love? Or what can be offered to a teenager in whose family parents are either gamers themselves, or alcoholics, or so busy making money and themselves that there’s time for children They dont have?
            I already said here that we need a tough legislative policy in this matter, and without mitigating circumstances, with maximum terms. How is the call for suicide inherently different from the call for terrorism?
            The first thing I see in steps to counteract this abomination is of course parental control. In any form, depending on the family, teenager, etc. ... from soft control to a strict ban.
            Second ... legislative policy is appropriate, and tough.
            Third ... work in educational institutions with teachers, principals of schools, colleges, universities ...
            Fourth ... government policy. As an option, the reconstruction of such organizations as pioneer, October, Komsomol (the name may be different). Advocacy of sports schools of DOSAAF, promotion of the TRP standards (youth health improvement through mass sports).
            And fifth, vigilance of administrations of social sites. Moreover, the cooperation of these administrations in this matter with law enforcement agencies.
      3. NEXUS
        15 September 2017 08: 45
        +4
        Quote: 210ox
        These "administrators" by the legs, and against the wall .. That would forever am

      4. Starover_Z
        Starover_Z 15 September 2017 10: 20
        +2
        Quote: 210ox
        These "administrators" by the legs, and against the wall .. That would forever am

        This is too easy a task for them. And it would be necessary to catch them and that they themselves carry out their tasks completely - to cut, stab, climb into cranes and high-rises in any weather ... In general, to the stop! And shoot and show it in their groups!
        Maybe after that the brains will turn on!
    2. Login_Off
      Login_Off 15 September 2017 06: 15
      +5

      And here is where it all began. With athletes! Spider-Man Alain Robert, has been promoting PR since 1994, and ALL media support this!
      Adopted!
      No, to immediately stop and condemn. No, he is an athlete, he is a conqueror.
      Well now reap the benefits.
      1. tasha
        tasha 15 September 2017 06: 17
        +4
        I think you have the wrong message. Deny all extreme sports?
        In my childhood, one wise guy decided, following the example of Jackie Chan, to jump onto the wall. The bump was sick for a long time :)
        1. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 15 September 2017 10: 07
          +5
          Quote: tasha
          Deny all extreme sports?

          Well, you are definitely intellectually ... of that! Really and really do not see the difference between incitement to self-mutilation and suicide and engaging in extreme sports.
          But tearing off the slender offspring from gadgets and sending them to sports sections and sports grounds is already a parental concern!
          But for many, it’s much easier to put the kid in the hands of a cool smartphone and to get rid of further education of the heir. So why then whine about the insecurity of the offspring !?
          1. tasha
            tasha 15 September 2017 10: 10
            0
            Have I stepped on your tail somewhere?
            Read the comment from Login_Off and mine again. Think slowly, look for keywords and only then splash out your thought ...
      2. NEXUS
        15 September 2017 08: 29
        +8
        Quote: Login_Off
        Well now reap the benefits.

        Now the same Blue Whale game has already reached the international level and is already being played in the EU and the USA. That is, in fact, such games can be safely called a virus of consciousness. And deadly.
        1. Svateev
          Svateev 15 September 2017 13: 08
          +3
          Quote: NEXUS
          such games can be safely called a virus of consciousness. And deadly.

          This is really a psychological virus and this effect has been known for a long time. In any clever textbook of psychology, an example is given from the Middle Ages when mass suicides of young girls began: they wanted EMNIP to paradise immaculate. The authorities have been trying for a long time to deal with this habit of traditional persuasion. clarifications .. Helped badly. And then the bodies of suicides began to hang in the central squares. And bare. Suicides instantly stopped.
      3. gorgo
        gorgo 15 September 2017 10: 44
        +3
        Quote: Login_Off

        And here is where it all began. With athletes! Spider-Man Alain Robert, has been promoting PR since 1994, and ALL media support this!
        Well now reap the benefits.


        Plus, plus and plus! I totally agree. Yes, ban extreme types of debate! So what? DO NOT! Sorry, I was hurt by the living. What kind of crap do you need them for? Tickle nerves? Do you want to climb rocks, houses, bridges - be a little sweetie - took your rope and quietly hanged himself on a carbine "on the way to the top". And I posted it on the network - at least please delete and pay a fine. No need for people to show it, no need! And adolescents in general is a crime.

        Do you think this is all accidental too? Well, why, even 50 years ago, everyone played football, hockey, and everything was normal. And now it’s just extreme sports? Yes, because there was no Internet and social networks, there was nowhere to brag and dress up! That is the whole point of these "conquerors." Show how cool I am. The mind is not enough to understand that death is not worth it, and pride is bursting. Pride and vanity are the engines of extreme sports. And especially in the fledgling.
        So yes - to forbid to hell with dogs (in the truest sense of the word). And look at how injuries, mortality, and silly hobbies of modern youth will fall. Let him play more chess. You look, maybe the brain will be added, so as not to jump on the roofs ...
        1. tasha
          tasha 15 September 2017 11: 12
          +4
          Your wisdom is extraordinary and your words are golden ... wink
          That's exactly what I will say next time to the kids from the climbing section when they come for help. Let them play chess ... And take away the bicycles from everyone ... Yes, and hockey, I tell you, is another sport.


          Do not be angry. Just starting to ban, it’s very difficult to choose the limit of these bans.
          1. Alex_59
            Alex_59 15 September 2017 13: 14
            +1
            Quote: tasha
            Just starting to ban, it’s very difficult to choose the limit of these bans.

            Next, ban the film "Vertical" as propaganda of an extreme sport - mountaineering, and of course Vysotsky’s song "Rock Climber", etc. OK-OK. Up there, Vladimir Semenovich will be in shock ... Only because the snotty infantile foolishness of the future is not able to think with his head.
            Damn, verily, where does humanity go? In my generation, killing was much easier. We jumped through garages, blew carbide and homemade manganese and magnesium bombs, jumped into the snow from windows, climbed construction sites and factories, climbed onto roofs. And everyone is alive! All are alive, imagine! And the current kids were given a smartphone with a contact contact and that’s all - death.
  2. Grandfather
    Grandfather 15 September 2017 05: 40
    +11
    in our small town, three have already "played" ... only this year. - jumped from the roof ... this is a state problem. the highest measure must be returned! the only way with cyberrods ...
  3. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 15 September 2017 05: 47
    +5
    Predatory things of the century!
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      1. serriy
        serriy 15 September 2017 09: 33
        +2
        !?
        Complain about the truth of life !?
        We don’t notice who is given what is at the mercy of the country?
        Is this the problem, and not only this? With "tolerance", "liberalism."
        Our punishment for a crime is essentially not a punishment - look at the terms for criminal offenses. And for the "economic" !? Here, in general - the promotion of crime, something like sorry, stop stealing, leave to the next (who grabbed billions, and remains with them - for "order" the court, a short time, is free).
        This is all imposed by "tolerance", "liberalism".
    2. sdc_alex
      sdc_alex 15 September 2017 08: 13
      +5
      Quote: Fox
      children need to be forced to do something

      I don’t argue .... my daughter, for example, went to the sports section. 2 of the year went. This year, new rules came, namely, all children involved in this section should undergo a medical commission. And all no matter what, all right, honey. commission for a novice athlete is a necessary thing. But ... in the state. the clinic cannot go through it, there are no specialists, there is no ECHO, the queue for all specialists is scheduled for 2 months .... You can go for a fee, in my city it is 5000 - 7500 p., but for 2 days.
      I forgot to mention that this commission needs to be held 2 (TWO) once a year. Those. the section for my daughter, at least for this year, has closed, she is sitting at home.
      1. long in stock.
        long in stock. 15 September 2017 11: 13
        +1
        it was they who covered their opera ... apparently somewhere it was that the child became ill at the training session and sent a circular ...
    3. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 15 September 2017 11: 28
      +2
      Quote: Fox
      again, the brewers have tusyats. the school is closed, as is the club.

      This is the root of evil: children have nothing to do!
      And our government deeply to the people ... to a damn! That is why people more and more often recall the Father of Nations, in a service jacket, with a pipe! Probably when they wrote "Thank you, Comrade Stalin for our happy childhood," they were not particularly soul-catching. There was something to thank! And everything was free, at the expense of the state ...
  5. Aspid 86
    Aspid 86 15 September 2017 06: 40
    +3
    The state is not engaged in upbringing, there is no pioneer, no Komsomol, where young people were "led" to their readiness to build a "bright future". Do not train your staff for the future, competitors will do this.
  6. Nix1986
    Nix1986 15 September 2017 07: 09
    +3
    At a minimum, equate the activities of the group administrator, developers to terrorism and extremism (which, in essence, is not even spent on a bomb) and solder for 20 years of strict work.
  7. Dry_T-50
    Dry_T-50 15 September 2017 07: 26
    0
    And why not for "resisting arrest"?
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 15 September 2017 11: 32
      +4
      Quote: Sukhoy_T-50
      And why not for "resisting arrest"?

      What are you talking about!? They are all blasted packers, hiding under the sofa when law enforcement agencies come for them!
      These are vile nests with a rotten little soul! Nehristi, damn it! am
      1. NIKNN
        NIKNN 15 September 2017 14: 23
        +5
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        These are vile insults with rotten soul! Nehristi, damn it

        However, I believe that the root is not there, these vultures are not dangerous, but professionals, highly trained psychologists should fight this problem, I even consider it necessary to create a unit aimed exclusively at counteracting this threat.
        After all, look
        If you are ready to become a whale - you write on the leg with a "yes" blade.
        If not, then you do whatever you want with your hand (many cuts and so on).

        Nothing like that?
        It’s just that I came across Putin, otherwise I’m not against Putin .. and I’ll be in the elections for him, but I think the point in the psychology of the question is clear ...
        1. Dry_T-50
          Dry_T-50 15 September 2017 19: 45
          0
          Quote: NIKNN
          After all, look
          If you are ready to become a whale - you write on the leg with a "yes" blade.
          If not, then you do whatever you want with your hand (many cuts and so on).
          Nothing like that?

          If you wish, you can seriously cut your hand and stay alive
          1. NIKNN
            NIKNN 15 September 2017 20: 51
            +3
            Quote: Sukhoy_T-50
            If you wish, you can seriously cut your hand and stay alive

            What for? Confirm that they can control you?
      2. Dry_T-50
        Dry_T-50 15 September 2017 19: 44
        0
        Quote: BoA KAA
        Quote: Sukhoy_T-50
        And why not for "resisting arrest"?

        What are you talking about!? They are all blasted packers, hiding under the sofa when law enforcement agencies come for them!
        These are vile nests with a rotten little soul! Nehristi, damn it! am

        a couple of years ago there was such a project, "Occupy pedophilia": its participants voluntarily calculated pedophiles and poured urine on the camera. Why can't we do something similar with the admins of these groups?
        1. NEXUS
          15 September 2017 20: 15
          +3
          Quote: Sukhoy_T-50
          Why can’t you do something similar with the admins of these groups?

          Tell them to pour urine ... on their conscience, hundreds of children's lives and even more broken lives, like children, parents, too ... if I would have abolished the death penalty for such undertones.
  8. Kenxnumx
    Kenxnumx 15 September 2017 07: 39
    +1
    Found only one game. Suicide squad for the famous film. Let’s author with links and correct names.
    1. 79807420129
      79807420129 15 September 2017 08: 24
      +9
      Quote: Ken71
      Found only one game. Suicide squad for the famous film. Let’s author with links and correct names.

      Konstantin, if you found only one game, this does not mean that they are no more, but teenagers then kill themselves request I hope you don’t need to give a video, although we are adults and have seen everything, but why? No. And the author is right, the problem and the big problem, because this is the life of our children, the state has virtually eliminated, shifting everything to the shoulders of the parents, of course there are sections and circles of interest, but do parents have time? request Which to feed the family work on several jobs or vice versa turn black. what The child remains alone and you know what result. And what should I do? I’m not afraid for my children, adults and their families, but I’m worried about my grandchildren. Something like this, Konstantin. The author raises the right problem. hi
    2. NEXUS
      15 September 2017 08: 24
      +3
      Quote: Ken71
      Found only one game. Suicide squad for the famous film. Let’s author with links and correct names.

      What links do you need? Type in any social network the name of the communities listed in the article and you will see everything for yourself.
      There are a lot of these communities, as well as similar games. I have listed only a few of the most famous.
      1. Kenxnumx
        Kenxnumx 15 September 2017 12: 23
        +3
        Respected. If you find such a game on your phone, you are sorry to give its full name.
        My younger one is also 11, and I’m watching no less than you. And if you know specific VKontakte groups, it's worth giving you links to them. If I have something out of this muck, I will share it. With the prosecutor’s office as well.
        1. Svateev
          Svateev 15 September 2017 13: 21
          +2
          Quote: Ken71
          If you find such a game on your child’s phone

          You can not keep track. We have solved the problem radically - the “fry” from the beginning only has a regular (not smart) phone. So that I couldn’t even go online. and not that some nasty thing to install. A computer is only at home, under the supervision of parents.
          Yes, periodically the "little one" tests us for strength, requiring smart, like with friends. In response, we ask him: "And how many parents of your friends today searched for their child through your phone, calling you. Because their child was not available - was it playing and discharging its smartphone?" “Malek” scratches turnips, smirks, and for a while the babbling about the smartphone stops.
        2. NEXUS
          15 September 2017 13: 32
          +3
          Quote: Ken71
          If you find such a game on your phone, you are sorry to give its full name.

          She is called the GAME OF THE SUICIDERS. Something new, apparently, like the "Blue Whale" ... I wrote this in an article.
          Quote: Ken71
          And if you know specific VKontakte groups, it's worth giving you links to them.

          And specific groups are indicated in the article ... read carefully ...
          “Blue whale”, “Whales swim up”, “Wake me up at 4:20”, f57 or f58, “Quiet house”, “Rina”, “Nyapoka”, “Sea of ​​whales”, “50 days before my ...”
          In the search engine, write something consonant, given all this symbolism ... there are many of these groups.
        3. NEXUS
          15 September 2017 14: 33
          +2
          Quote: Ken71
          Respected. If you find such a game on your phone, you are sorry to give its full name.
          My younger one is also 11, and I’m watching no less than you. And if you know specific VKontakte groups, it's worth giving you links to them. If I have something out of this muck, I will share it. With the prosecutor’s office as well.

          Here is a link to a similar article with an investigation (https://www.novayagazeta.ru/articl
          es / 2016/05/16/68604-gruppy-smerti-18) .... I just typed f57 into the search bar ... You can also enter 4-20,20-4, Kit, f58, etc. ... somewhere the name Fox, the Black dolphin came across ...
          But there are new CLOSED groups with new names, but the essence is the same-Bring YOUR CHILD TO SUICIDE ...
  9. ADmA_RUS
    ADmA_RUS 15 September 2017 07: 50
    +1
    This is a natural selection. The genes of parents who do not care for their children should not be passed on. So it was and will be as long as people exist.
    1. Colonel
      Colonel 15 September 2017 08: 01
      +7
      Quote: ADmA_RUS
      natural selection

      God grant that your children would not fall under this selection.
    2. NEXUS
      15 September 2017 08: 43
      +7
      Quote: ADmA_RUS
      This is a natural selection.

      This is not natural selection, but the elementary killing of children. Manipulating a child’s fragile consciousness, they kill him. Where did you see natural selection here?
      1. ADmA_RUS
        ADmA_RUS 15 September 2017 09: 09
        +5
        Does the child make money on which he buys a computer, tablet, mobile phone? He pays for the costs of cellular communications and the Internet? Not. Parents do it. So they are OBLIGED to monitor what their child does and how. You will be surprised, but Kaspersky also has a “parental control” function where you can adequately flexibly control the possibilities of restrictions. And if the child does not communicate with parents and is presented to himself, and they did not explain to him what is good and what is bad, then this is a jamb of parents.
    3. Kenxnumx
      Kenxnumx 15 September 2017 12: 24
      +2
      Are you sick or do you have such a particularly gifted banter?
  10. Birch fresh
    Birch fresh 15 September 2017 08: 01
    +10
    If the threat to children was limited only to these groups ... I know by hearsay about other threats.
    Our daughter in 15 years became anorexic. Voluntarily. After visiting groups in VK that her friends advised her.
    I subsequently saw these pages. The tips written there smack of NLP. And there are many such groups.
    Neither the IC nor other bodies are interested in this - the disease is allegedly not widespread in our country (I have other information).
    In the country, as it turned out, there are only a couple—
    the three state medical institutions that study this problem and have treatment methods, all other clinics are commercial - their price tags are inaccessible to the middle class. (So ​​far, the treatment cost us a little over a million for 10 months. On credit, of course)
    We have not succeeded in getting the daughter out yet - doctors say that the cure can take 3-5 years.
    The disease is terrible - it's not just weight loss. This is about a serious mental disorder. But officially there is no problem.
    I will not give links to pages on social networks here, those interested can search.

    So whales and other rubbish is only part of the global program to slowly kill our children.
    1. Me 262
      Me 262 15 September 2017 08: 29
      +4
      In Minsk, in a 4-children's hospital, we have a department where they work with similar diagnoses, take an interest, maybe the prices there are more adequate.
      1. Birch fresh
        Birch fresh 15 September 2017 08: 43
        +3
        Well, St. Petersburg to Minsk is not an option to go. The child is in grade 11. EG on the nose. Observed by a doctor at home.

        And yes - for haters - the child was never deprived of attention. The girl has always been successful. I studied BEFORE all this at 4-5. 7 years of karate (brown belt) - the whole apartment in cups and medals (70% percent of the gold medals), many international competitions (albeit not at a high level).
        But since the disease, everything has changed.
        So the problem is serious, but those who should do this do not observe the problems ...
        Something like that.
        1. ADmA_RUS
          ADmA_RUS 15 September 2017 13: 08
          +1
          The question is not success from your point of view, because your daughter’s criteria for success are likely to be different. The question is happiness. Judging by the abundance of medals and diplomas, your daughter most likely did not have a normal childhood. And she is a girl. The army does not threaten her, and if she graduates from school a year or two later, then nothing bad will happen.
          1. Birch fresh
            Birch fresh 15 September 2017 17: 39
            +4
            Lots of girlfriends. A wide circle of friends. She chose the sport herself, without our pressure. A fairly broad outlook.
            I know all your arguments. Doctors first tried to find out the cause.
            My wife and I examined this whole situation under a microscope.
            It's not about us. This is a real zombie. As an addiction to drugs - first they offer to try, then more and more. Paka man does not lose himself.

            Finish school later - the child will remain in the second year in 11th grade. Of course - easy and simple. And for her it will not be stress at all. Sure. (here the words ended without mat)
            1. ADmA_RUS
              ADmA_RUS 16 September 2017 02: 03
              0
              You are to blame too. How and in how much is a separate conversation. About what she chose. Are you sure? Personally, he personally developed his hobbies and abilities in those areas that his parents wanted. And about drugs. Due to the refusal to try drugs at school, he had a lot of problems and trams. It was possible to force me only under the threat of death.
              Do you know how much stress she has now? Did you find out why she got sick?
              Although you are right, your child is up to you to decide how to live until she is 18 years old.
    2. Svateev
      Svateev 15 September 2017 13: 31
      +1
      Quote: Birch fresh
      Our daughter in 15 years became anorexic. Voluntarily. After visiting groups in VK that her friends advised her.

      The same story with the Olympic champion figure skater Lipnitskaya. Just now, on the Internet, her statement is being discussed that she is quitting sports because of anarexia.
      Moreover, in the first comments, instead of compassion and support, Lipnitskaya was blamed for why she announced her diagnosis - anarexia.
      This shows that the anarexia shaft has been initiated and maintained by someone. Someone has developed anarexia-seeding technology, monitors critical anarexia statements, and spills mud on these statements and their authors.
      1. ADmA_RUS
        ADmA_RUS 15 September 2017 15: 07
        0
        I beg you, you do not know the story well. There is a "fashion", now the fashion for thinness continues. In the 19th century, ladies deliberately poisoned themselves to obtain a "painful" image. And the fashion for carriages? Disfigured internal organs and brought themselves to a loss of consciousness.
        1. Svateev
          Svateev 16 September 2017 10: 37
          +1
          Quote: ADmA_RUS
          you do not know the story well. There is a "fashion", now the fashion for thinness continues.

          Here with such suggestions - "this is ONLY ONLY a fashion (grass, one puff, try, etc.)" the path to hell begins.
          Do you distribute such installations for salaries? Or out of thought? am
  11. BAI
    BAI 15 September 2017 09: 04
    +2
    Of course, censorship and the principled position of the authorities are needed here. No one has canceled the articles “Bringing to Suicide” (Criminal Code, Article 110. Bringing to Suicide).
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 15 September 2017 11: 45
      +4
      Quote: BAI
      Of course, censorship and the principled position of the authorities are needed here.
      What power, I beg you! They are damned incense afraid of accusations of intolerance, the police regime, the imposition of any ideology, not to mention Censorship !!! This immediately kills the westernized liberoid, stronger than the 42 caliber!
      It is necessary to very “firmly” begin work on the legislative framework, starting with the Constitution, in favor of the people, not the pro-Western oligarchy and K *. Otherwise, one cannot escape from this trap without much blood!
      1. Kenxnumx
        Kenxnumx 15 September 2017 13: 22
        +1
        What exactly does not suit you in the constitution. And then all the masters to bother.
  12. unignm
    unignm 15 September 2017 09: 09
    +3
    children need to be raised. if the child has no friends, he sticks in only in the comp. in short, the vein lies on all the parents. we didn’t have time to deal with all kinds of nonsense and we had a lot of friends and not online but in the yard.
    1. gorgo
      gorgo 15 September 2017 11: 24
      +1
      Well, the fault is always on the parents. The child is a blank sheet. What you write on it, then read it.
  13. raw174
    raw174 15 September 2017 09: 21
    +4
    The topic is really serious, by the nature of my work I worked with young people and was a member of the municipal commission for the examination of offenses under the auspices of the Central Committee for Health and Safety, I saw these children myself, psychologists work with them. I didn’t even imagine that it’s possible to zombie a child in this way ... It seems that amendments to the legislation are being adopted, which will update it. This is a definite evil!
  14. raw174
    raw174 15 September 2017 09: 24
    +2
    I have small children (daughter 6 years old and son 3 months old), we do not keep the Internet at home, but next year I will have to connect, I think that I will quietly control what my children visit on the network ...
  15. gorgo
    gorgo 15 September 2017 11: 21
    +2
    Quote: tasha

    Do not be angry. Just starting to ban, it’s very difficult to choose the limit of these bans.


    I do not argue. However, you must admit that it’s always like that with the kids - once he’s allowed, two is allowed, and then they sat on their heads. And the cries of “Ah, whom did we grow up ?!” begin It’s the same here. As the saying goes, "shaw you can, then crap!" Or, culturally speaking, "what is permitted to Jupiter is not permitted to the bull." I will also quote the words from the Parables of Solomon: cherish a child, and it will frighten you.
    You need to clearly understand when it's just funny pranks, and when it is already a dangerous hobby.
    With pederasty, it also began like that - oh, what is it! oh, it always has been! oh, yes, everyone in the Union banned ... And what now? Glad?
    Is it really not clear what the root of the problem is? So, no need to uproot him? Let it continue to grow and bear fruit?
    In short, the matter is clear: З-А-П-Р-Е-Т-И-Т-Ь! etit ...
    1. tasha
      tasha 15 September 2017 12: 09
      0
      You need to clearly understand when it's just funny pranks, and when it is already a dangerous hobby.
      That's it. This is the main idea.

      And what do you see the root of the problem? Judging by the previous comment, I realized that you see him in his passion for extreme sports. If so, then I do not agree with you.
  16. Earnest
    Earnest 15 September 2017 11: 27
    +2
    Quote: Anglorussian
    Not. Because if I agree that they will take away a little freedom from me, then a little more, then another, for my own safety, of course yes in order to feel like a free person, my child will have to emigrate to North Korea good .

    You just do not have children. Otherwise, you would like to be FREE from pedophiles, drug dealers and administrators of death groups. Why do you need anonymity on the Internet? After all, you do not require anonymity while driving, for example. Well, so that a bearer driver’s license without a photo, and a car without a license plate, otherwise there is no freedom of movement ... I gave my example. Try to give an example that convinces me of the need for anonymity on the network.
  17. TOR2
    TOR2 15 September 2017 12: 27
    +2
    The problem that the author touched is much broader. For example, the yellow media virus penetrates many publications. In order not to be unfounded I will give a couple of examples. One of the publications publishes an article such as what kind of horror awaits apartment owners. The article provides a link to the draft resolution. I click on the link and read the project. We are talking about storage facilities, but there is no mention of residential premises at all. Another example. In the rubric of an accident, a fatal accident is painted in colors. Like the driver of an expensive car knocked to the death of a pedestrian ... relatives in shock. And not a word that the accident occurred under a pedestrian bridge (other publications wrote about this). Sometimes hackers are asked uncomfortable questions - why do you write frank nonsense. The answer is quite categorical - we want to write what we want. Is it not here that the authors of various kinds of "blue cats" draw inspiration? Freedom of speech should certainly be, but frank disinformation and other abominations have nothing to do with it.
  18. gorgo
    gorgo 15 September 2017 12: 44
    +1
    [quote = тасха] [quote] Judging by the previous comment, I realized that you see him in his passion for extreme sports. If so, then I do not agree with you. [/ Quote]

    Not really. I just supported my comrade in the sense that then with such seemingly innocuous phenomena as that French "Spider-Man", then a variety of problems begin. Then they would write in the media something like “Another climbed onto a skyscraper. The police gave him an asshole - people laughed for a long time” - and that’s all, no problem. And when begins "ah! Oh! What a hero! What achievements!" ... the kids see all this, they also want to.
    Of course, it is not in him. It's just like one episode. I’m talking about a trend. And it is such that in recent years there has been an overwhelming interest and fascination with just such things that are closely associated with risks to life and health, which is called "extreme". And instead of at least public censure, we see only universal admiration. "Ah, he is a famous extreme" ... "He is cool, he is engaged in roaming" ... etc.
    And this has an indirect relation to the topic of the article. Because children do this partly out of a desire to “become cool,” even in their own eyes ...
    1. tasha
      tasha 15 September 2017 15: 04
      0
      I quote:
      And here is where it all began. With athletes!


      Here you write comments on articles on the Internet. Harmless phenomenon? Nooo. The result is Internet addiction and the destruction of consciousness. wink

      And the tendency is not to be carried away by things with risk to life and health, but in order. Get your five minutes of fame, earn treasured huskies, gain fame at all costs - this is the source of all troubles. And, of course, a lack of attention and human communication.
  19. My three penny
    My three penny 15 September 2017 13: 09
    0
    Just hellish nonsense. In my town in the late 80s, I remember, on the basis of real events related to various maniacs for weeks, the population was excited by rumors of murderers in the black Volga with inscriptions like “death to children”, etc. Parents began to pick up children after school in droves, in the evenings it was alarming.
  20. Gamer
    Gamer 15 September 2017 14: 03
    +1
    What scum is doing this?
  21. Shadow of darkness
    Shadow of darkness 15 September 2017 15: 18
    +1
    Internet is garbage! Why do parents allow children of neglect to be in this trash? Social networks are an imitation of communication and for children whose acquaintances are usually within walking distance, there is no need to communicate through them and is even contraindicated! Smartphones for students? What for? The simplest phone is enough for communication, why do parents buy smartphones for them almost from the first class? After all, it is clear that the child will be in the classroom either in social networks or in games and will leave school illiterate dunce! The child needs to be accustomed to the Internet. Slowly and taking into account the general development of the child, release him into "free swimming". For parents, it must be necessary for the child to develop an “immunity” to the Internet, an internal filter capable of filtering information coming from a worldwide information dump. For this we need constant upbringing in the family, an explanation of what is good, what is bad, and no sections, courses, clubs will give what the family should give. The child will not get into groups with poor content if he has the concepts of bad and good. You can’t just take and throw your child into the Internet information dump, but you won’t be able to filter information for him all his life.
    PS maybe chaotic, but the parents themselves are always to blame for the problems of the child, trying to replace their attention with fashionable devices and the Internet.
    1. Svateev
      Svateev 16 September 2017 10: 53
      +3
      Quote: Shadow of the Dark
      Smartphones for students? What for?

      I would put a hundred pluses to your comment, if there was such an opportunity!
      Just the day before yesterday at the parent meeting, a new class teacher told us: "I want to take smartphones from your children for the duration of my lesson. Who agrees - write such permission in writing, and then some children begin to resent. Who should I give the sample application for? "She didn’t have enough samples for everyone, they passed from hand to hand. They wrote everything. One father even said: "And if my will play in the lesson, then I authorize to break the smartphone, there will be no complaints!"
      All parents already understand what kind of hole this Internet is, but they themselves often cannot refuse a child to buy a smartphone, hoping that they can control what the child is watching there.
  22. Shadow of darkness
    Shadow of darkness 15 September 2017 15: 39
    +1
    Anglorussian,
    Quote: Anglorussian
    Do not confuse a bolt with a finger. And yes, I don’t need a passport to get a SIMcard.

    So why are similar measures in other countries besides the elect called an infringement of freedoms, and in the elect it is called necessity and a necessary measure? It seems that I am not confusing, but you are cunning! bully
    1. Shadow of darkness
      Shadow of darkness 15 September 2017 15: 50
      +2
      About the SIM card smiled. If at least something personifies you to your SIM card, you already personify there for any special service! In general, the Russians say: if you want to limit my freedoms, then restrict them within the framework of the law, accepting which justifies its appearance. Western zombie optimists argue: I have full pants of freedom, because there are no laws restricting my freedoms, and if they tell me that special services or corporate security services do this in tikhari and do not register, then this is all nonsense or the machinations of the Kremlin! wassat
      1. Shadow of darkness
        Shadow of darkness 15 September 2017 16: 42
        +1
        If at least something personifies you to your SIM card, you already personify there for any special service!

        Sorry, T9 is a bully! Must be:
        If at least something personifying you is tied to your SIM card, you are already personified for any special service!
  23. CRP
    CRP 15 September 2017 16: 02
    +1
    If you are not interested in your child, he will do all kinds of nonsense. So think about it, continue to hang out with friends and colleagues at work, go hunting and so on, or spend time with your child. It is necessary to have oneself and be a friend to the child - the best vaccination against bad influence. It’s to my fault that your child listens to everyone.
    1. Svateev
      Svateev 16 September 2017 10: 57
      +2
      Quote: CRP
      It’s to my fault that your child listens to everyone.

      Yeah here they began to inspire the guilt complex to the victim. What else is on the line of zombie methods?
  24. iouris
    iouris 15 September 2017 17: 10
    0
    And if a teenager can download a suicide program on his phone, then why do we need a state?
    1. NEXUS
      15 September 2017 17: 39
      +3
      Quote: iouris
      And if a teenager can download a suicide program on his phone, then why do we need a state?

      Here I am now living in Moldova ... for the period from the beginning of the year to this day, 38 child suicides associated with these online communities. The schools began to work with teachers, school psychologists and parents.
  25. Bort radist
    Bort radist 15 September 2017 19: 49
    +3
    The situation has recently been really difficult. Now the wave of interest among teenagers has subsided. (I work with children so I can judge). Not to a small degree helped to tighten the punishment for organizing such games with death. If one of the first organizers of Liss received a miserable 2 years of settlement, then recently, a week ago, 17 summer curators, one in Moscow and another female ugly in Khabarovsk, were simultaneously detained. They are already shining up to 15 years. Here is a video of the detention of one of those who will follow a new article. I restrain myself on each, on every word, although such obscenities cannot be penetrated - or a bullet, an extreme case for life. In the eyes of the beast .......
  26. Bort radist
    Bort radist 15 September 2017 20: 22
    +3
    Quote: raw174
    I have small children (daughter 6 years old and son 3 months old), we do not keep the Internet at home, but next year I will have to connect, I think that I will quietly control what my children visit on the network ...

    There are programs that allow you to completely take control of your phone, tablet. Believe conversations, persuasions will not help, the forbidden fruit is very sweet. Special control of the game going online with communication. It’s like a toy for children, they communicate with their hero, but when you see that the child’s questions are not asked by children, you begin to understand that under the nickname Julia, Masha is hiding the one who is far behind ..... In general, there are control tools, for example, Screen Taim. It’s not difficult to understand. And remember - modern children with gadgets on you. We learn everything according to the instructions, and they go on intuition. My six-year-old removed the program from my phone, I did not notice how. I had to restore everything.
    1. Svateev
      Svateev 16 September 2017 11: 03
      +2
      Quote: Bort Radist
      completely take control of your phone, tablet. Believe conversations, persuasions will not help, the forbidden fruit is very sweet

      Right!!!
  27. Shadow of darkness
    Shadow of darkness 16 September 2017 19: 44
    +1
    Anglorussian,
    This is complete nonsense. Is the source of information Zadornov?
    Everything else is utter nonsense of the same spill.

    In general, it is clear: # you are upset # But is it not our "closeness" and "lack of freedom of speech" that are your sources of information and rumors? And is not your fanatical attempt to deny things obvious to many people a sign of zombies and mental slavery? bully
  28. Igool
    Igool 19 September 2017 00: 16
    +1
    Anglorussian,
    Quote: Anglorussian
    This is complete nonsense. Is the source of information Zadornov?

    Just do not lie. That in England, that in Ireland, as well as Germany - knocking is not considered a zapadlo. And the vast majority of residents do this with a clear conscience. I traveled a lot, where I lived and talked with people. Conclusions are made not on the basis of third-party sources, but on the basis of my life experience