"Peacemaking casus belli" for stripping LDNR from the APU. The rattling of the "Three Hundreds" at the Crimean border: Kiev is again experiencing fate!

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An incredibly large amount of “dirt” and criticism in the last week was directed towards the draft resolution on placing peacekeepers on the contact line in the Donbass, which Moscow submitted to the UN Security Council 5 September 2017. Thus, in the half-million community "Reports from the militia of Novorossia" about a dozen war correspondents and front-line journalists from Donbass managed to christen the draft resolution "full discharge of the" Novorossiya "project from Moscow, which supposedly should stop the" sanction shaft "launched by Washington. Those who criticize, like all of us, residents of Donbass, can be easily understood: after all, after the referendum on self-determination of LDNR held in May on 11 in May, we received: a three-year conflict with many thousands of losses without liberation of the occupied Armed Forces of Ukraine left at the mercy of Ukraine for Mariupol and a number of Donbas cities, as well as the constant observance of criminal "Minsk agreements" without permission for a proper counter-battery "otvetku" and local displacement of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to Kurakhovo or Krasnoarmeysk, which entails more and more losses among the regular population due to regular shelling.



Against this background, the resolution on the appearance in Donbas of a peacekeeping contingent, announced by Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and "conducted" by the newly elected Russian Permanent Representative to the UN Vasily Nebenzi, at first glance, is associated with the process of "freezing" the conflict in the established boundaries from Shyrokino to Stanitsa Luganskaya, being a mad irritant for the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics. Some “sofa” analysts have already managed to sow real panic, noting in their short notes that the staff of the Defense Ministry of the DPR collect all the “critical” documentation and “their belongings”, and then plan to “push off” in the Russian direction, leaving the republic unarmed in front of Ukrainian armored " boned. " The recent telephone conversation between Russian President Vladimir Putin and German Chancellor Angela Merkel finally “blew up” the situation, where the Russian leader confirmed his readiness to update the draft resolution (on the deployment of the peacekeeping contingent in Donbas) with a clause providing permission for the movement of armed UN peacekeepers in all regions of the republics who "Inspects" the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission. For a lot of short-sighted "experts" -panikers, this event was the reason for the publication of analytical notes about "the future hit of the LDNR under Ukrainian control, the stripping of everything Russian, etc.". Meanwhile, if this opinion deserves attention, it is only minimal. Why?

First, the main criterion for introducing a peacekeeping contingent is the “mirror” withdrawal of large-caliber artillery from the line of contact. At the moment, this is akin to a science fiction novel: daily, Ukrainian artillery fire several hundred mortar and artillery shells from 82 to 152 mm caliber across the territory of the republics, and the attempt to withdraw heavy weapons of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the area of ​​Stanitsa Lugansk repeatedly fails (and there have been such attempts already a few dozen). Moreover, over the past week, the Armed Forces of Ukraine began active transfer to the contact line of additional armored units, as well as tactical and reconnaissance aviation, which will be discussed below.

Secondly, the leadership of the republics is hardly satisfied with the fact that OSCE SMM officers repeatedly “spotted” on the transfer of coordinates of NM LDNR military facilities to Ukrainians will be accompanied by paramilitary peacekeeping units from Belgium, France, Germany, etc. The only format of the peacekeeping contingent, under which Donetsk and Lugansk will sign, is provided by its Russian majority. And now let's imagine a fantastic scenario, in accordance with which the Ukrainian side nevertheless agrees to withdraw large-scale cannon and rocket artillery from the contact line, after which the “watching” OSCE employees begin to be accompanied everywhere by the armed forces of the multinational UN peacekeeping force. Many may say for hours that this inevitable "freeze" for several decades. At the same time, this opinion looks excessively one-sided, especially against the background of modern stories military conflicts of the XXI century, where the August "South Ossetian precedent" 2008 of the year.

Then one of the main "casus belli" to conduct an operation to force Georgia to peace ("Five-Day War") by forces of the 58 Army of the North Caucasus Military District, 76 Guards Air Assault Division, the Air Force and Navy of Russia, as well as the Abkhaz and South Ossetian militias , was both an attempt to carry out an offensive operation with the subsequent seizure of the territory of South Ossetia, and a direct attack on the Russian peacekeeping contingent deployed at 2-x military bases (in the “upper town in Shanghai” and in the central fortified area of ​​Tskhinval, where The commander of the peacekeeping contingent, General Marat Kulakhmetov, was appointed.

It is not a secret that the Ukrainian side will sooner or later go on the “path of aggression”, regardless of the deployment of peacekeeping forces in the Donbas, because almost all similar conflicts often have only military resolution, especially when a pro-Western puppet is in power zombie population of the country. In this case, Russia is quite capable of “playing” bypassing the UN procured by the west and “adapting” the “South Ossetian precedent” to Novorossia to calm the Kiev regime. In the Donbass, such a military-political move will take place much faster than in South Ossetia, since the current Kiev “top” is an order of magnitude greater than the entourage of former Georgian President Saakashvili.

Again, it’s worth repeating that all sorts of thoughts about the deployment of the UN contingent in the Donbass today look like a circus performance comparable in scale to “du Soleil”, because everyone can clearly see that against the background of additional military assistance from the USA, including lethal weapons, about any assignment of heavy weapons is out of the question. On the contrary, we see the concentration of additional artillery batteries in the most important Donetsk and Mariupol operational directions. In particular, according to the statement of the deputy commander of the operational command of the DPR NM, Eduard Basurin, over the past 3 days, 2 arrived in the vicinity of Krasnogorovka tank APU companies consisting of 20 main battle tanks and a platoon of British mercenaries of 30 to 45 troops.

According to updated data, the British entered the special purpose battalion 46, which openly indicates the preparation of a local assault "throw" of Ukrainian formations in the direction of Staromikhailovka, or the Kirov district of Donetsk, located separately from the main Donetsk fortified area. This prospect looks even more alarming against the background of the so-called “school truce”, under which the command of the People’s Militia of the DPR prohibits counter-battery fire on the enemy. What do we have from the operational-tactical point of view? Both Staromikhailovka and Petrovsky district of Donetsk, in fact, are partially separate enclaves-fortified areas of NM DPR, nominated 8-15 km west of the main part of Donetsk-Makeevka agglomeration. From the western, southern and northern OH, these militia enclaves are surrounded by numerous and “to the teeth” armed Ukrainian militants that are part of the 92 of the separate mechanized brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

In the course of the coming massed shelling of Donetsk, part of the 92-th OMBR, with the support of the newly arrived 2-tank, it is quite capable of pushing the units of NM DNR from the above enclaves. In order to prevent the arrival of reinforcements of the DPR NM in these Donetsk environs, the Ukrainians may well arrange a long-term artillery bombardment of the main transport "arteries" - st. Petrovsky and st. Kirov, as well as other small transport interchanges in the area. It is quite logical that the British soldiers who received appropriate training according to NATO standards will be in charge of the Ukrainians in this action. If in this case “otvetka” on the part of the Donetsk artillerymen will be banned, one can expect extremely unpleasant results with far-reaching consequences. It remains to hope only that the summer 2-3-kilometer pushing aside Ukrainian militants in the Krasnogorovka area was not useless, and in the new positions the militiamen received all the necessary small arms, anti-tank and artillery weapons.

In the New Azov and Telman directions, intrigue is still preserved. So far, most of the barely knowledgeable Ukrainian population continues to skillfully ram up with a breakthrough of the war criminal Saakashvili across the border, who, according to the statement of the director of the communications department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Artyom Shevchenko, is not going to detain, significant arsenals of large caliber shells are being pulled into the front Mariupol to launch a new round escalation, regardless of all sorts of "peacemaking proposals."


The transfer of arsenals to the New Azov ON (Mariupol)


Video materials coming from residents of Mariupol and its environs indicate that in recent weeks along the highways “Berdyansk-Mariupol”, “Zaporozhye-Mariupol” and “Volnovakha-Mariupol”, several dozen KrAZ trucks were delivered to the city, "MAZ", etc. With hundreds of tons of different shots, here are the prerequisites for observing the cease-fire regime, as well as preparing for the introduction of a peacekeeping mission. The surroundings of the Gnutovo settlement (in 7 km northeast of Mariupol) continue to be saturated with artillery batteries of the Gvozdika SAU 2C1, one of which arrived in the area last week. This may indicate upcoming artillery preparation in the villages of Krasnoarmeyskoye, Primorskoye and Lukovo, the ultimate goal of which is to weaken the defensive capabilities of the 1-AK AK NM DPR in the Telman direction.

It is worth noting that the attack on this sector will be carried out not only by “Sector M” (Mariupol), but also by Volnovakhi, where 7 has long been present - 8 is the thousandth group of Ukrainian troops. Kiev is preparing for a new slaughter on a very large scale. So, both tactical and reconnaissance aircraft, which slowly but surely increase their presence on Avb Kramatorsk, will be used. Its constant has long been the improved Ukrainian reconnaissance / air command center of the An-26РТ type, which is hardware-tuned for the 3-5-hour tactical radio support in the UHF / VHF bands between units of the Armed Forces that are outside the limits of the radio horizon. The destruction of this side should be the task “No.1” for the calculations of the Igla MANPADS and the Osa-AK air defense missile system of the LDNR People’s Militia. It is becoming increasingly clear that a month before the expiration of the law “On the Special Status of Donbass” (October 18 2017) and a few days before the adoption of the so-called “Donbass Reintegration” bill, Kiev plans to make very unexpected adjustments for everyone in the future. Republics of New Russia, and not only her ...


The transfer of equipment to the APU on the Crimean HE


Politician and public figure Alexei Zhuravko continues to collect and publish video information about all movements of Ukrainian military formations in the Kherson and Nikolaev regions. In particular, in recent days alone, more than a hundred Ukrainian Kung fueled with various types of shots, spare parts and special equipment have advanced in the direction of the border with the Republic of Crimea. There was also a strange redeployment of the 30H6E radar for illumination and targeting from a single 5P85C launcher, which are part of the ZRDN C-300PS, the purpose of which is not yet clear. This clearly does not promise anything good, and therefore the idea of ​​the “Great New Russia” does not leave us for a minute.

Information sources:
http://www.mk.ru/politics/2017/08/06/neobyavlennaya-voyna-kak-gruziya-ustroila-rossiyskim-mirotvorcam-osetinskiy-stalingrad.html
https://www.donetsk.kp.ru/online/news/2865111/
https://dnr24.com/main/28063-vsu-perebrosili-v-donbass-transportno-boevye-vertolety-i-samolet-razvedki-an-30.html
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  1. +2
    13 September 2017 01: 56
    Preparing a meat grinder for an adult.
    1. +15
      13 September 2017 05: 54
      Arranging an attack even on Crimea, especially after recent exercises, is the height of insanity. Moreover, the situation in Syria shows that the General Staff of Russia is more than professional, which makes it possible to assume that for every ukrovermaht there are already plans and opportunities to implement them.
      1. +15
        13 September 2017 08: 49
        Not the fact that the operation is being prepared by the General Staff of Ukraine. It may be their Western curators who do not feel sorry for Ukrainian soldiers and who do not count on victory. Even a lost conflict would be very beneficial for the Americans, because The EU is beginning to actively kick up sanctions and the vector of their policies needs to be corrected. The military conflict of the Russian Federation-Ukraine for this is very suitable.
        1. +1
          13 September 2017 09: 41
          Quote: nesvobodnye
          Not the fact that the operation is being prepared by the General Staff of Ukraine. It could be their Western curators,

          You might think that in Syria, not Western curators rule laughing
          Quote: nesvobodnye
          Even a lost conflict would be very beneficial for the Americans, because The EU begins to actively buzz against sanctions and the vector of their policies needs to be tweaked

          That would have gone a year ago. Nonche - hardly. Hahly already got everyone.
          1. +10
            13 September 2017 10: 53
            09.41. Boris! Got, not got, this is the tenth question. In addition to Ukrainians, there are other deliverers. There will be no Ukrainians, there will be Poles, Arabs, Russians and so on. Is Poland in vain troubled with reparations? And the Baltic tigers claim payments from the occupation. But the theme of reparations is a smoke screen. The main thing is to burn the wick. That will come to the outskirts at the request of a legitimate government, NATO or UN contingents. What will we do? It will be a decision of NATO or the UN, I do not know. Poroshenko will not be able to ask to introduce a contingent to protect against separatist terrorists? That will be such an application to the UN. Will Russia support it? Will Russia fall into its own trap with a legitimate request for troops? Will Russia be part of the UN forces? Or again HPP? But HPP seems to boil down to an infusion into one pole of the world. We launched the same nasty campaigns on our oil production. Why? And this is HPP. Amertsy will not impose sanctions against their companies! Did it help? Mediocrely purged the outskirts. And after all, there was also HPP. Joint ventures and financing from Russia. Did it help? What will peacekeepers now help? With each step, Russia is driving itself into a puddle more and more. Be it even domestic, even foreign policy. Therefore, the question of where the Western curators rule is very controversial. It feels like Western curators are running the Kremlin. Merged or not merged New Russia? Here the question is rather, did they surrender or did not surrender the Empire? Judging by the events, surrendered and surrendered. So far, the Empire has not dealt a single retaliatory strike. But the Empire was slaughtered like a mammoth. We are on the rise! Guys! Do not make me laugh. Those who do not beg on the rise and set the conditions themselves. Those who do not invite on the rise ask for them. Those who are on the rise, they do not integrate, are asked to attach themselves to them. About foreign cars of their own assembly is not necessary. This is a development of the West. We ourselves could not develop anything. Even the Simmens turbines we earned a bit. You can certainly be offended. But what is offended? On your own laziness? For a quarter century, one defeat!
            1. +3
              13 September 2017 15: 11
              I absolutely agree with you. Look at the root. We already lost before starting to fight. And the reason for this is democracy and freedom declared in Russia.
            2. +4
              13 September 2017 19: 34
              We are on the rise! Guys! Do not make me laugh

              Yes, yes, we all know "the mustache is gone," you can already be replaced by a bot.
              What about the Volgograd-Astrakhan road?
              Will we argue? I will be back to those places soon.
              By the way, I came up with another topic:
              -I take a glass of plastic with water
              -I put on a torpedo
              - if I get from Svetly Yar to Enotaevka in less than 4 hours, and at least half of the water remains in the glass, you acknowledge that the federal roads of the Volgograd region are good, and you are “safe” wassat
              About FSE - I'm joking. Your narrow-eyedness provokes very much.
              1. +4
                13 September 2017 19: 53
                19.34. Why a glass of water? It is realistic to break through one at a time two cylinders per month. Especially on casting. Why a glass if a flash drive in the radio crashes? Why a glass if a car in asphalt track is thrown from side to side? And there is enough water in the rain on the road. Not a road, but a river bed! The new asphalt, which with a net, barely lasted summer and two winters. And he went into the trash. Last year they put a new one. A month later, bumps and track. In winter, at minus 20, funnels began to appear in the new asphalt. Drove the recycler and shut up. Now these latches are still in big buds. On the old asphalt, the cones continue to grow. By spring there will be an asphalt primer. Flourishing cone repair is flourishing. The pits are exchanged for bumps and all this is washed off when the snow melts. You're lying, you're not lying, but what's under your feet is a reality. hi
                1. +3
                  13 September 2017 21: 02
                  Quote: Region 34
                  Why a glass if a car in asphalt track is thrown from side to side?

                  Have you tried to follow the rules of the road? Speed ​​does not violate? You see the flash drive it drops out! Nail. For some reason, it doesn’t fall out on my broken primer.
                  1. +3
                    13 September 2017 21: 15
                    21.02. 60 km is a violation of the rules? Drive a flash drive? It is necessary to beat the developers of these devices. No quality. A flash drive crashes, the plug from the phone crashes and power disappears. The phone warms up and glare in the sun.
                    1. +1
                      13 September 2017 21: 54
                      Quote: Region 34
                      60 km is a violation of the rules?

                      Ignorance of the rules does not exempt from liability.
                      Quote: Region 34
                      A flash drive crashes, the plug from the phone crashes and power disappears.

                      Why doesn’t anything fly out for me?
                      1. 0
                        14 September 2017 05: 59
                        21.54. Setrak! What does the rule have to do with 60? When you pick up speed, it begins to fling even harder. Why doesn't it crash? Probably riding only on holidays. Everyone flies and disappears, but he does not. No need to tell tales. If you put a piece of paper on a flash drive or fold it in, then it holds. Food is harder. It was necessary to initially make the mount more reliable. The new yuesby cord holds on for some time, but then again the contact disappears. hi
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    2. 0
      14 September 2017 11: 30
      They travel solely to intimidate the civilian population of Kherson.
  2. +8
    13 September 2017 07: 08
    Even with the maximum support of the West, Ukrainian warriors will not dare to undertake armed aggression against the Crimea. Otherwise, this will mean a full-scale war with the consequences for Ukraine. Regarding the peacekeeping contingent, our leadership probably did not put forward such a proposal spontaneously and calculated everything. In addition, GDP over the past two days has popularly clarified the essence of this proposal. Threats of "drain" DNLR simply does not exist.
    1. +8
      13 September 2017 08: 20
      The Ukrainian leadership will not stop the threat of a full-scale war with Russia. Before him, the West has been given the task of unleashing this war. The West is ready to fight Russia with the last Ukrainian (as well as Georgian, Moldavian, Baltic) soldier. And then that Pshekistan will not be destroyed ...
      1. +1
        14 September 2017 06: 59
        Do you really know whether the Ukrainian will stop him. Government, threat or not
        You are right on the sidelines!
        1. 0
          14 September 2017 07: 29
          What confuses you?
    2. +8
      13 September 2017 08: 51
      Even with the maximum support of the West, Ukrainian warriors will not dare to undertake armed aggression against the Crimea. Otherwise, this will mean a full-scale war with the consequences for Ukraine.

      Why do not dare? The Georgians dared. News vessels from Ukraine are not smarter. Moreover, they believe, like the Georgians, that the West will fit in for them and the Russian Federation will not dare to fight against Ukraine.
      1. +1
        13 September 2017 20: 06
        Quote: nesvobodnye
        Why do not dare? Georgians dare

        all the more so as presidents can become with the same surname - Saakashvili.
    3. +2
      13 September 2017 10: 22
      Quote: rotmistr60
      In addition, GDP over the past two days has popularly clarified the essence of this proposal. Threats of "drain" DNLR simply does not exist.

      And besides, GDP never uses patterns, unlike mattresses!
      1. 0
        13 September 2017 10: 43
        That you just noticed.
    4. +7
      13 September 2017 10: 59
      07.08/XNUMX. Rotmister! Against the Crimea may not trample. And against LDNR? Why not? LDN who? Separatists. And who are the separatists? The terrorists. It is against the separatist terrorists that the UN troops will be introduced. Is Russia for terrorists or against? In Syria, Russia is fighting against terrorists. And who will she fight for in Ukraine? Against the sovereignty of Ukraine? And why then fought in Chechnya? How is Chechnya different from LDNR?
      1. +1
        13 September 2017 11: 15
        07.08/XNUMX. Rotmister! Against the Crimea may not trample. And against LDNR? Why not?

        I meant only the Crimea. Regarding DNLR, for some reason I am sure that they will trample. Why did our side “muddied” the proposal for peacekeepers on the line of contact.
        How is Chechnya different from LDNR?
        Chechnya was still a subject of Russia.
        1. +1
          13 September 2017 12: 50
          11.15. Rotmister! The fact that they will trample on the Crimea, I have doubts. But there is no doubt that they will trample on LDNR. LDNR, like Chechnya, is the territory of one country. But the separation of the territory of LDNR is similar to the separation of Chechnya or the regions of Syria. The whole question is how the world will look at it, in which we are trying to persistently integrate. Why didn’t we allow Chechnya to secede, but we allowed the Baltic states !? Why was allowed to separate Georgia, Ukraine and Kazakhstan? LDNR today is like our Chechnya and the Baltic states. Where we kiss one, and bite him!
          1. HDZ
            +1
            13 September 2017 22: 14
            But the difference is that the EBN gave Chechnya freedom. So that through pocket bandits the weapon can be fused to all who are officially forbidden.
            And the Chechen war was a civil war, where the feds fit in and away we go.
            You have a short memory.
            1. +1
              14 September 2017 06: 14
              22.14. Well, so the conflict with LDNR is also a civil war. But then the separatists were fighters for independence (which is natural for the United States). Today LDNR is the wrong fighters for the USA, and the right ones in Syria. And who for Russia is Ukraine and LDNR? Here is the Crimea, Orya is Russian land. And whose Ukraine was she? Is it our outskirts or American? What are we so shut up only for the Crimea? So we admit that Ukraine never belonged to Russia ?! After all, it turns out so !? Kiev recognizes LDNR as separatists. And by whom do we recognize LDNR? Who do we recognize Kiev separated from Russia? Can we recognize the leadership of Kiev as separatists chopping off a piece of the outskirts from Russia? Why not? Can we introduce sanctions against the separatists of Kiev? The USA won quietly impose sanctions against Iran, North Korea and Russia. Are we worse than the USA?
          2. 0
            14 September 2017 07: 03
            and where does the world only look !? who allowed, who did not allow, is a mystery!
        2. 0
          13 September 2017 20: 14
          in Crimea, they may not climb. The grouping at Perekop can also be purely defensive, in order to prevent the Russian troops from hitting the flanks and rear of the Ukrainian troops storming LDNR.
      2. +2
        13 September 2017 12: 29
        Those who are not finished off in Chechnya are being finished off in Syria. In Chechnya, the Barmalei wanted to build a caliphate, from the Caspian to the Black Sea, which caliphate wants to build an LDNR?
      3. 0
        13 September 2017 17: 29
        Quote: Region 34
        How is Chechnya different from LDNR?

        Is this a question or a hint?
        1. 0
          13 September 2017 19: 35
          17.29. Setrak! And a question and a hint in one bottle.
      4. +2
        13 September 2017 19: 06
        in LDNR slaughtered and kicked Ukrainians? or enslaved? - there is no analogy with Chechnya ...
        1. +2
          13 September 2017 20: 07
          19.06/XNUMX. Fire! LDNR and Chechnya are regions belonging to the same country. And how does a region of one country differ from a region of another country? Russia did not support Chechens who slaughtered Russians. We support the Ukrainians who are cutting LDNRovtsy with economic ties and do not impose sanctions against them. In Syria, we are fighting against separatist terrorists. Cooperating with Kiev, whom do we support? Separatists have invaded the country? Or is Kiev a legitimate authority? Then is LDN illegal? If LDNR is a legitimate authority, why do not we help them take Kiev? The patriotic leaders of LDNR seem methodically destroyed. Poroshenko’s environment does not suffer. Again HPP?
          1. +2
            13 September 2017 20: 19
            excuse me, but you write nonsense ....
            1. +1
              13 September 2017 21: 28
              20.19. Fire! This is not nonsense. It's just that everything in the world is relative. It all depends on how you look, which side. The same West may well say: But you carried out an anti-terrorist operation in Chechnya and soaked the separatists! What are the claims of Russia to Kiev?
          2. +2
            13 September 2017 20: 59
            Quote: Region 34
            LDNR and Chechnya are regions belonging to the same country.

            The difference is huge.
            Not a single American lived in Chechnya, however, the Americans sent their terrorists there. And in Donetsk and Lugansk, most of the population is Russian, there are still many important differences, but if you yourself did not realize them, my explanations will not help you.
            Quote: Region 34
            If LDNR is a legitimate authority, why do not we help them take Kiev?

            Time works for us, equipment wears out, stocks of weapons are depleted, the number of competent military personnel decreases, the later - the easier it will be to cope.
            If it draws historical parallels, the DPR and LPR are not Chechnya, the whole of Ukraine is big Chechnya, temporarily torn away from Russia and it is necessary to return it in its entirety, and not some part.
            1. +1
              13 September 2017 21: 24
              20.59. Setrak! Let Kiev be Chechnya, and LDNR legitimate authority. But why did we miss Kiev separatism? Why are we cooperating with Kiev separatists? The technique wears out, but the population of LDNR does not breed like rabbits. What will we come in five years from now? Will we return the outskirts? There, Kazakhs are already abandoning the Cyrillic alphabet and moving to the Latin alphabet. This is also an example of our weight in the world.
              1. 0
                14 September 2017 16: 19
                Quote: Region 34
                The technique wears out, but the population of LDNR does not breed like rabbits.

                And the population of the rest of Ukraine multiply?
                Quote: Region 34
                But why did we miss Kiev separatism?

                And also Tbilisi, Baku, Yerevan, Minsk, Tashkent, Frunze, Ashkhabad, Dushanbe, Alma-Ata, Vilnius, Tallinn and Riga separatism.
                Quote: Region 34
                There, Kazakhs are already abandoning the Cyrillic alphabet and moving to the Latin alphabet.

                They simply do not realize what it will cost them. In each republic of the former USSR (except Russia), deindustrialization goes its own way, the Kazakh method is also suitable (for the hegemon).
                Quote: Region 34
                This is also an example of our weight in the world.

                Our weight in the world (like any other country) is the weight of the ammunition thrown.
                1. 0
                  15 September 2017 01: 53
                  16.19. Setrak! The population of Ukraine for any larger population of LDNR. How many coughing up shelling APU. As for the other republics, that's right. But Ukrainians were generally considered a relative. Although this relatives did not frailly destroy their relatives in the Second World War. Further separation of Kazakhs from us, I do not think that this is good. Here some kind of fermentation is still going on in Tatarstan. The weight of the country is not measured by ammunition. Recall the 90s. The weight of ammunition was huge. But then the golden donkey won!
                  1. 0
                    15 September 2017 18: 59
                    Quote: Region 34
                    But then the golden donkey won!

                    Say it when and if US tanks are on Red Square, but for now - what kind of victory are we talking about?
                    1. 0
                      16 September 2017 05: 51
                      18.59. Setrak! Well, if the argument for dependence is tanks, not finances, then I am silent. There is nothing more to talk about. hi
                      1. 0
                        16 September 2017 14: 02
                        Quote: Region 34
                        Well, if the argument of dependence is tanks, not finances, then I am silent

                        So keep quiet, just do not understand basic things. Tanks are an indicator of defeat, besides there may be surrender, but Russia didn’t capitulate so that you ... treacherously talked about its defeat.
    5. +2
      13 September 2017 11: 35
      So they need it !!!!! By all means try to do it. Therefore, they fire at schools and residential areas, and not military units and the front line. They need Russia to directly intervene in the conflict. Herself!!!! If this happens, the information war will begin on the whitewashing of fascism and Nazism, otherwise why the West needs it in Banderostan! There will be provocations that amaze with their arrogance and cynicism. Bandera "got" the west with their cowardice. Therefore, the "mercenaries." Most likely SAS. They will make a provocation.
  3. +2
    13 September 2017 07: 57
    Ukrainians regained their fighting ability. The threat of Russia is increasing
    1. +3
      13 September 2017 08: 53
      Ukrainians will not attack Crimea, I think. Rather, they expect to defend themselves, naive, from the response from the Russian Federation at the beginning of active hostilities in the Donbass.
      That’s why they pedal the topic of introducing the Western peacekeeping contingent to the border of the republics and the Russian Federation in order to prevent the entry of * forces forcing peace * into the Donbass. As if the Western * peacekeepers * will be able to stop them, they will not be crushed at the very first hour.
      I wonder how many NATO divisions they expected to place on the border with the Russian Federation for its reliable cover, given its length? How were you going to cover the shore? Sixth Fleet?
    2. +9
      13 September 2017 09: 39
      Quote: SCHWERIN
      Ukrainians regained their fighting ability.

      In comparison with what period? They won’t trample openly on the Russian Federation, they’ll quickly take it away for soup, rather on LDNR, possibly with the support of Western peacekeepers. After an official protest, I think the Russian Federation will send troops, they will scream that this is aggression against a peaceful Ukraine, which is putting things in order in their country. The Minsk agreements by that time will be covered with moss. And this will happen on the eve of the presidential election in order to put pressure on the electorate. Pressure points will be under both scenarios: 1 - Putin has sent troops - there will be crowds screaming that Putin is crazy, fanning the flames of the 3rd world, aggressor, killer !; 2 - Putin did not send troops - crowds will come out who will scream that Putin is a balabol, abandoned his own people, he will also surrender Russia.
      1. +1
        13 September 2017 11: 03
        09.39. Rav! What do you mean openly do not trample? Gather the UN. They will pose a question. Ukraine asks to introduce UN troops. AND? What will Russia do? To be part of the UN forces or the LDNR troops? Or maybe they will send Russia? Let's say in the UN troops. To whom will our contingent submit? UN or Russia? And if you are asked to send NATO troops? What side is Russia there?
        1. +3
          13 September 2017 12: 26
          Quote: Region 34
          What do you mean openly do not trample?

          It means that the APU will not attack the Crimea and the mainland of the Russian Federation.
          Quote: Region 34
          Ukraine asks to introduce UN troops. AND? What will Russia do? To be part of the UN forces or the LDNR troops?

          They will bring in UN peacekeepers, which in essence should separate the fighters, but peacekeepers can take the side of the Armed Forces in favor of a country beyond the sea, I don’t think that the UNMU will attack the LDNR, they will rather give the go-ahead of the Armed Forces, as I said: “After the official protest I think the Russian Federation will send troops ... "
          Quote: Region 34
          Let's say in the UN troops. To whom will our contingent submit? UN or Russia?

          Our peacekeepers will not be allowed there 100%, as interested ...
          Quote: Region 34
          And if you are asked to send NATO troops?

          Of course, peacekeepers will be from blocs, for example, the Baltic states ...
          Quote: Region 34
          What side is Russia there?

          Initially, no reaction will be to the escalation of the military conflict, to the offensive of the Armed Forces, at the beginning of a protest, then coercion to peace by force.
    3. 0
      13 September 2017 11: 10
      Dressed, shod their reservists, repaired and painted their outdated tanks after boilers, did it restore combat efficiency? It remains only to buy salaries for them in Russia.
    4. +1
      13 September 2017 17: 34
      Quote: SCHWERIN
      Ukrainians regained their fighting ability. The threat of Russia is increasing

      They also restored the production of shells in their country?
      1. +1
        14 September 2017 04: 07
        But so far, they come from somewhere in large volumes. And this. honestly. very strange. So many years to water the other side with all that is possible and have no end. They don’t even save.
        1. 0
          14 September 2017 16: 22
          Unexploded shells stuck into the ground do not bother you?
          1. 0
            17 September 2017 06: 51
            They don’t bother at all, it doesn’t affect the result from the bombers and it does not bring relief to the victims. And in general, I would like to understand, where did these villains get so much ammunition and is there an end to them? Then recently one of their upstarts on NTV said that all our equipment is junk. not an example of them, dill. He may have blurted out this with binge and bile, but these ghouls spend a lot on armaments. Groysman said that in the budget for 2018 somewhere 4,7 billion UAH. released. I do not think that they are stupidly making equipment without ammunition for it.
  4. +1
    13 September 2017 08: 56
    Or maybe they just drive the equipment right-to-left. Titi-miti is taken from the Moscow Armed Forces of Ukraine.
    1. 0
      14 September 2017 12: 25
      And shells, too, "just right-to-left" shoot? ...
  5. +3
    13 September 2017 09: 45
    Hmm, no, I think there will be a provocation and a large-scale offensive. September 16, maybe later. Gunpowder and Armenian ass bake from Western women. Comrades Ssaka and the lady with the scythe are trying to unite and force to share. So Gunpowder desperately needs martial law. By the way, in this way, it is possible to disrupt the entry of peacekeepers.
  6. +9
    13 September 2017 09: 56
    And here, and if, then ...
    Tired of !!!!
    In Alchevsk, the blast furnaces were extinguished at the plant, young people with families are fleeing to wherever they can, there is no work and people are afraid of the arrival of good workers ...
    The night cannonades on Bakhmutka do not cease, the glory of God does not reach the city, but what is it like for people under constant shelling in Bryanka, Stakhanov, Pervomaisk and the cities of Donetsk region.
    There is a dirty political game and everyone plays it:
    GDP, Poroshenko, Merkel with associates.
    And people are just supplies.
    PS The older men must remember the principle of street fighting, get involved first and hit the spot. And here is the fourth year of Khasavyurt in Chechnya ...
    1. +9
      13 September 2017 10: 06
      Yes, the game is rather big, similar to a fucking performance. The problem is that, apparently, this is not the worst case scenario. It would be possible for us to give the banderlogs the first to give the banderlogs a sharp attack, but the consequences ... We won’t be allowed to display the media image in our favor. It still does not work out even with the help of RT. Given the fifth column in the Russian Federation, bulk, liberals and others fell in power, from which to get rid of horseradish, people can die more than 100 times if you act impulsively and not think about the consequences. And the world right now, VERY needed a war. Too many debts should be written off to amers.
    2. +1
      13 September 2017 10: 36
      It may be blasphemy, but I heard such an anecdote in Ukraine two years ago:
      Runs into the house a little son to his mother.
      - Mama! Trouble!
      - What?!!
      - In the courtyard, Chechens beat their father, they take away a car, they rape their sister in the barn!
      Mom lightweight:
      - Fuh! Thank God ... And I thought kind-heartedly burst into the city ....
      1. +1
        13 September 2017 10: 50
        Well, just like the Tatars in the Kherson region
    3. 0
      13 September 2017 17: 25
      The Kremlin has such a “peacekeeping?” Unfortunately. And people like others .. only the eggs are the same. I support you
      Quote: Vadim Korovin
      And here, and if, then ...
      Tired of !!!!
      In Alchevsk, the blast furnaces were extinguished at the plant, young people with families are fleeing to wherever they can, there is no work and people are afraid of the arrival of good workers ...
      The night cannonades on Bakhmutka do not cease, the glory of God does not reach the city, but what is it like for people under constant shelling in Bryanka, Stakhanov, Pervomaisk and the cities of Donetsk region.
      There is a dirty political game and everyone plays it:
      GDP, Poroshenko, Merkel with associates.
      And people are just supplies.
      PS The older men must remember the principle of street fighting, get involved first and hit the spot. And here is the fourth year of Khasavyurt in Chechnya ...
  7. +4
    13 September 2017 10: 00
    Variability of solutions to the crisis between Ukraine and Novorossia is excluded. The military defeat of Kiev, the only right decision.
    1. +2
      13 September 2017 10: 13
      The only true thing is, but there are many traps along the way. It is not for nothing that the Ukrainians are asking themselves, it is beneficial for someone to drag us into the war. It is necessary to carry out everything as accurately as possible, with a true media picture, that these horses themselves climbed. Well, the second way is, of course, to wait until it falls apart to hell (sooner or later, life in this rotting corpse cannot be eternally supported), but again, we’ll have a fucking UkrSomalia with a plus in the form of the Tatar Daesh in the Kherson region (something tells me that they are just dofiga there already).
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    1. +7
      13 September 2017 10: 42
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      Not an article, but the devil knows what. I thought at least something new would be taken out of the information space, but in fact - the passage of a dozen trucks (which Minsk is forbidden?), Gossip about hundreds of tons of shots (where are the facts?) And the misery phrase about "tormented Mariupol" ... I especially climbed the Internet to look at atrocities ... What would the author live as tormented by those townspeople!

      No, Mr. Nazarii, how they shot and continue to shoot, how people died on both sides, and continue to die. Speak quietly in Mariupol, and thank God. good Yes, it’s not quiet in Maryinka, Bryanka, not quiet, the devil knows that, so this is probably gossip
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      gossip about hundreds of tone shots (gd

      arrive negative
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      What would the author live like that tormented those townspeople!

      What would you live like people live in LDN negative
      1. +1
        13 September 2017 10: 48
        And you didn’t notice that I criticize precisely the ARTICLE, and not the situation at the front. Reread again - maybe I mentioned peace and tranquility in the settlements you indicated somewhere? I follow the news. And articles of such a plan also have to read. And you do not get sick and be more careful.
    2. +2
      13 September 2017 12: 19
      Come to Mariupol "Red Leader" and try to tie the St. George ribbon on 9 in May, try to pay utilities, which cost about 55-60% of the standard wage at the factory, feel the "cool" moments when the APU from the outskirts of East arrange mortar self-shooting Grape , and 120-mm mines are buzzing right over the heads of the residents of the Left Bank, falling off the coast of the Azov Sea .. less read "0629.com.ua" and "Mariupol News", purchased by the Ukrainian authorities .. am
      1. +1
        13 September 2017 12: 35
        What is so dramatic? Try to walk along the Rostov flag with the Ukrainian flag ... Why what - read the Hamlet in Moscow on the Arbat! Well, or the three of us, gather under the most peaceful poster, "No to war." So do not go too far - against the laws (albeit sometimes ridiculous) to drag is hard, and sometimes unsafe. I know about the communal apartment - Dad lives near Kiev. He himself was in March. He speaks Russian, by the way.
  9. +4
    13 September 2017 10: 35
    Sheer nonsense. How much has been said about all kinds of foreign mercenaries. Where are the corpses, i.e. facts? Yes, no one will fight for Ukraine, beside the Ukrainians themselves. Especially for free. There is no money. If so far the warring country has not been able to build a factory for the production of cartridges, then this says a lot. So finely shitting on staff money is yes, but on a large step up - certainly not.
    1. +1
      13 September 2017 10: 43
      I don’t think that the mercenary mercenaries or the Chukhons and the rest of the trash want to die right on the front line along with the “Ukrainian breakthrough meat”. These are rather in terms of sniping and as marauding-punitive teams in anticipation of a breakthrough, they will not go to the front.
      Well, as well as examples of - там там н н н "’:
      http://pravdanews.info/upload/editor/news/2014.07
      /53ccf2b9f3ea6_1405940409.jpg
      https://ok.ru/poslevoyni/topic/66362203848746

      Even if fakes, recently on the same topwar there was a photo with two smiling non-instructors.

      And they do not fight for free. They get paid completely. Plus, even more than 70% of them are ideological Natsiks, although they will eat grass, but let them kill. The Hohland cartridge plant did not give up at all; Bulgaria and the other good neighbors sold the remaining delays from the USSR 10 years ahead. Well, in general, Ukraine is now a consumable, they have the goal of a kamikaze to rekindle a big war and die.
  10. 0
    13 September 2017 10: 41
    Dill is not afraid of anything ..... They will go on the attack ...... they will get .... howl .... Another truce .... RF sanctions ...
  11. +6
    13 September 2017 10: 51
    It creates a lasting impression that the General Staff, like Niels with a pipe, lures the most combat-ready units of the Armed Forces and National Battles, as well as all the main forces and means of the MTO, including. and back in the bag. What for ? It’s not hard to guess. A theater of operations for the Armed Forces of Ukraine is extremely disadvantageous, logistics is complicated by two solid water barriers - the Seversky Donets and the Dnieper, bridges over which now do not need to be bombed with masses of FBA, it is enough to use OTRK. All the forces and means of the MTO that they are pulling to the forefront will not be adequately protected for a sufficiently long time, debris from the soil and ground caponiers do not count, these are too weak shelters today. The railroad train is ready for us. I see no obstacles to the quick and thorough defeat of the armed forces group, the destruction (seizure) of most of the MTO assets and supplies, and the entry of the LDNR armed forces to the border: Zaporozhye - Dnepropetrovsk - Kharkov, at least.
    1. +2
      13 September 2017 11: 06
      Yes, they will break it very quickly and painfully. Therefore, the horses so far stomp on the spot, apparently waiting for some kind of events, so as not to vanish away in vain, but to create the right picture.
      .
  12. 0
    13 September 2017 12: 37
    So do not need a blood bath. Mute the connection. Cut off from the Center along the Dnieper. The warriors themselves will put up thugs from the Dobrobats and mercenaries, and then you can negotiate.
  13. +1
    13 September 2017 12: 48
    You guys are all great strategists from the General Staff! Do not be offended, but talk about the war and fight
    not the same thing, personally experienced in my own skin! Let's not get into the operational plans, they still will not show us! I think, because we know, we need to exchange opinions about the article! From my humble standpoint, the author, from the volume of material that he had tried to say, is not so simple - and most importantly, everyone is in a terrible impasse and don’t know what
    take it! As in a proverb - and you want and pricks and mom does not order! I am convinced that today we need to learn to walk, live along the edge of the abyss and not fall into it !!
    1. +2
      13 September 2017 14: 52
      Quote: noodles
      Let's not get into the operational plans, they still will not show us!

      I agree with you, but we exchange opinions, views on how much you can see from the sofa and do not claim to be analysts and outstanding strategists ... hi
  14. 0
    13 September 2017 12: 53
    the current Kiev "elite" in terms of recklessness is an order of magnitude greater than the entourage of former Georgian president Saakashvili.

    doubtful statement.
    it is not easy to beat a bear with comrades, but it is possible if the Washington regional committee sets such a task.
    ps introduced Poroshenko by the mayor of Varna (for example), and then later on ...)))
  15. +1
    13 September 2017 14: 09
    Instead of communism, capitalism - capital, elitism is marching around the planet ... Its policy is "green" - "an overpopulated planet is not able to feed the entire population of the Earth!" - they decide where the "superfluous" are. A kind of neo-Hitlerism with the roots of Nazism, with the power of capital as leverage in the politics of states and the world !!! This "invisible, secret" purge is carried out first by converting currencies (to feed their network of careerists, saboteurs), sequestrating the budget for conversion, weakening the army, state structures, splitting into sectarian ethnic clans - organizing clashes instead of cohesion, changing power, war. .. It is clear ... "extra"!
  16. +1
    13 September 2017 14: 41
    Quote: SCHWERIN
    Ukrainians regained their fighting ability. The threat of Russia is increasing

    There is no threat to the Russian Federation, but there is one for LDNR. It is necessary to help Novorossiysk in protecting against the Armed Forces, as well as in the liberation of the territories of Novorossia occupied by the Armed Forces!
  17. +2
    13 September 2017 14: 59
    They are recalled from holidays, they are not allowed to go on holidays. The reason is supposedly exercises in Belarus. Where is the ATO, and where is Belarus.
  18. 0
    13 September 2017 16: 41
    Or maybe we are not looking there? Maybe the attack is planned at all on LDNR, but on Transnistria? And all this shobla near the border with Crimea precisely as a deterrent? Odessa region have long blocked the S-300, on the border of the troops. South Ossetia bordered on Russia and it took two days to counter-attack the Georgian troops. And how much time will be needed for Transnistria?
    1. 0
      13 September 2017 18: 34
      Ukraine’s S-300 is not in the best condition, we will be able to completely destroy them, if we destroy them, the road is open there, as they have almost no aviation.
  19. 0
    13 September 2017 18: 14
    It's time with this abscess called "Ukrainian junta" to finish. And the people of Ukraine, for the most part, will gladly support the operation to force peace.
  20. +1
    13 September 2017 18: 33
    An interesting thought, my version. That the West now wants with all its might to hurry Ukraine, or at least part of it, to Russia. If Russia leads troops, it will have to throw money to Ukraine to restore the Donbass, and the Russian Federation has almost none, thereby making the Russian Federation get bogged down even more and get into loans or spend gold. Russia does not want to do this, is trying with all its might to keep at least some kind of peace.
  21. +1
    13 September 2017 21: 57
    It's time to start ALWAYS sending the US to x ... Talk only from a position of strength! Withdraw all Russian funds from US government bonds. Introduce the death penalty, and ruthlessly destroy all US agents of influence. A war is going on with us, and we are partaking of ceremonies! It is high time to understand that a long and uninterrupted war is going on with the Russians. Sometimes, as in 1812 or 1941, it goes into the hot phase. And the rest of the time it just goes and stops when the Anglo-Saxon world is taken under complete military-political and informational control! And only so. In 1991, we almost won and did not finish off the Russians and Russia only out of greed and confidence in a complete victory. But in the war you can’t only defend - you must go forward and win, finishing off the enemy! You won’t achieve it, it will finish you! This war will end when there is a Russian government in Washington or London, or people completely controlled by Russia will rule. Or vice versa - after all, the United States is seeking exactly the opposite - that would be ruled in Moscow by people completely controlled by Washington. OR OR! What will we choose ?????
  22. 0
    14 September 2017 16: 31
    Quote: Region 34
    What does the rule have to do with 60?

    And you read the rules in the "speed" section.
    Quote: Region 34
    If you put a piece of paper on a flash drive or fold it in, then it holds.

    I had a case, flew out of the road on ice, everything scattered, speakers, small things in the cabin, in the trunk in general mess, the only thing left in its place is a flash drive in a tape recorder, buy yourself a normal player.
    Quote: Region 34
    Food is harder. It was necessary to initially make the mount more reliable.

    As a rule, the wire is loosened from the microUSB side; you can’t plug the normal USB connector into the phone. These wires are just supplies, you need to have a supply if you really need charging in the car.

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