Global betrayal: how England and France “missed” Poland

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The refusal of the Polish leadership to meet the demands of Germany led the Fuhrer and his entourage to the idea of ​​the need to solve the "Polish question" by armed means. This became clear to Poland, which began preparations for repelling a possible German invasion of Poland.

By this time, the Supreme Commander of the Polish Army was Marshal of Poland 53-year-old Edward Rydz-Smigly. In the past, a student of the Philosophical Department of the Jagiellonian University and the Academy of Fine Arts in Krakow, Rydz-Smigly, in his youth, joined the underground military organization Związek Walki Czynnej created by Józef Piłsudski. He received military education in Austria-Hungary, having served for a year in the 4 Infantry Regiment of the Austro-Hungarian Army. Then he actively participated in the activities of the Polish Nationalist Strelets Union and headed its Lviv organization, and made an officer’s career during the First World War. Called to the Austro-Hungarian army, Rydz-Smigly within two years reached the colonel, serving in the 1 th brigade of the Polish legions. In 1914, he received the rank of major, in 1915 - lieutenant colonel, and in 1916 - colonel. Note that he was not a personnel officer, and for a reserve officer called up "as a citizen," the rank of colonel in 30 years is a great achievement. After the declaration of independence of Poland, Rydz-Smigly was promoted to brigadier-general, participated in the Polish-Ukrainian and Soviet-Polish wars, where he commanded a division, and then an army. Since 1929, he was the deputy of Jozef Pilsudski and his closest associate, so it is not surprising that it was Rydz-Smigly after the death of Marshal Pilsudski in 1935 that year he headed the Polish armed forces.



When 21 March 1939, Hitler again put forward demands for Danzig, the Polish side began military preparations. 22 March 1939 of the year Marshal Rydz-Smigly approved the war plan with Germany, and 23 of March 1939 of the year the Chief of the General Staff of the Polish Army Brigadier General Vatslav Stakhevich ordered to mobilize four divisions and transfer them to East Pomerania, where the state border of Poland and Germany was deployed. Thus, the Polish military command perfectly understood that the war would begin in the foreseeable future. Warsaw hoped to fight off the attack of Hitler Germany with the help of Great Britain and France.

The two most powerful states of Europe at that time repeatedly assured Poland of their intercession. Already 31 March 1939, Chamberlain assured Poland of political, economic and military assistance to Great Britain in the event of a military attack by any state. On April 6, a bilateral agreement on mutual assistance between Poland and Great Britain was signed, and on May 15 a protocol was signed with France. Paris promised exactly three days after the announcement of mobilization in Poland to begin preparations for an offensive against Germany. Another agreement between the UK and Poland, representatives of the two countries signed 25 August 1939. Before the start of World War II, there was a week left. In Poland, great tension was felt, but, apparently, no one, including the most senior players of Polish politics, could assume that the war with Germany would have disastrous consequences for the Polish state — it would simply cease to exist. There was too much hope for strong support from Britain and France - the Poles believed that Western patrons would not leave them in trouble and help them cope with German aggression.

1 September 1939 of the year, in 4: 30 am Luftwaffe planes struck airfields that housed Polish air forces. In 4: 45, the Polish naval base Westerplatte in the vicinity of Danzig was shelled by a German battleship. At the same time, 4: 45 was followed by the invasion of the land forces of Nazi Germany along the entire length of the Polish border. German troops broke into Danzig, where fierce fighting began. We must pay tribute to the Polish soldiers who defended the "free city", they fought bravely. So, only fourteen hours after the assault the Nazis were able to seize the building of the "Polish Post". However, the forces were too unequal, and Danzig was soon occupied by Nazi troops, followed by a statement of its accession to Germany.

Global betrayal: how England and France “missed” Poland


The allies of Poland at first glance were going to carry out the previous agreement. So, on the same day of September 1 of the year 1939 in France, a general mobilization was announced. September 3 in the morning 5: 00 Britain officially declared war on Germany, and in 11: 00 France joined the UK. The war of Germany against Poland, thus, formally acquired the character of a world war. However, on the declaration of war against Germany, the Allies stopped. Then began a very slow preparation for hostilities. While the German troops were moving rapidly into the depths of Poland, suppressing the resistance of the Polish Army, France was pulling with mobilization. The delay was due, among other things, to the very outdated system of mobilization and preparation of the mobilization reserve. The French command simply could not mobilize as soon as possible and launch an offensive against the German positions.

Meanwhile, according to the text of the treaty between France and Poland, France pledged to begin preparations for a major offensive on the western borders of Germany three days after the start of the general mobilization. But, although the preliminary mobilization was carried out in France on August 26, and the general mobilization was announced on September 1, a large-scale attack on the German positions did not happen. True, 7 September 1939, the French troops, who, by the way, had an overwhelming numerical superiority over the German troops on the western borders of Germany, launched an offensive in the Rhine valley. For a week, French troops occupied 12 settlements, but then German troops launched a counterattack. Already 12 September 1939, the top military leaders of France and Great Britain, having met in Abbeville, decided to immediately stop all offensive operations against Germany. The war acquired an increasingly stranger character, and it is not surprising that later historians would call the “intercession” of Great Britain and France for Poland only as a “Strange war.”

It was the French army that was to become the main striking force on the western front. By September 12, 1939, thanks to the mobilization carried out, the French troops included 78 divisions, including 4 motorized divisions, and 18 separate tank battalions. They had absolute superiority over that part of the German army that was stationed on the western borders of the country, especially in armored vehicles, since all German tank and motorized formations at that time were thrown to the east - to Poland. As for Great Britain, it was in no hurry to send its troops into the war zone. Four British divisions were to arrive at the French-Belgian border in October 1939. A large-scale offensive against Germany by the Western Allies was postponed. At the same time, both France and Great Britain, who swore eternal intercession to Warsaw, were not particularly worried about the fate of Poland. By the time the British and French generals decided to postpone their advance on German positions on September 12, the Nazis already controlled a colossal part of Polish territory.

September already has a very serious operational situation in 5. German troops moved inland - Army Group North went to Brest-Litovsk, Army Group South was bypassing Krakow. The Polish army Prusy was attacked by the 10 Army of Army Group South and defeated, moving to the right bank of the Vistula. The German troops, who had seized the Piotrkuvskoe Highway, were able to move freely towards the Polish capital. 6 September 1939 Polish President Ignacy Mostsitsky, the Government of Poland and the General Headquarters of the Polish Army left Warsaw. Marshal Rydz-Smigly ordered the large-scale retreat of the Polish troops. The armies of the Polish Army were cut off from each other and were completely surrounded by enemy forces. September 12 German troops reached Lviv, and September 14 surrounded Warsaw, and then began shelling the city. Brest, where the headquarters of the General Staff of the Polish Army was stationed, was also under siege by the German troops. Polish ambassadors to Britain and France sounded the alarm, literally begging the allies to launch an offensive, but the British and French governments remained adamant. By the way, the whole defense plan of Poland against the German invasion was based on the fact that France and Great Britain were to launch a massive offensive in the west and divert a significant part of the German troops that Hitler would have to transfer from Poland to the western border. But since this did not happen, Germany was able to direct all its main forces against Poland, including the full power of tank and motorized divisions. Perhaps the situation was different, and World War II would have ended much earlier.

Meanwhile, 17 of September, 1939, of the Red Army of the USSR entered the territory of Poland from the east on the territory of Poland. The Soviet leadership explained the invasion of Soviet troops into Poland by considerations of a military-political nature, first of all, by the collapse of the Polish state as a result of the defeat in the war with Germany and the need to protect the Ukrainian, Belarusian and Jewish population living in eastern Poland. Western Belarus and Western Ukraine were occupied by Soviet troops. At the same time, the Polish command, which by this time had been evacuated to Romania, ordered the Polish troops not to offer armed resistance to the Soviet troops. By the 20 of September, the position of Poland became disastrous. 27 September 1939, the Nazi troops entered Warsaw. October 6 Hitler's troops defeated the last defensive stronghold of the Polish state - the defenders of Kocki. Over 17 thousands of Polish soldiers and officers who defended in Kock, surrendered.



But, although Hitler's troops occupied the entire territory of Poland, with the exception of the eastern regions, which were under the control of the Soviet Union after 17 September, Poland officially did not recognize its defeat. The leadership of Poland left the country, a significant part of the Polish military also evacuated. The allies, who were not in a hurry to begin hostilities against Germany on the western front, safely deployed the evacuated Polish military on their territory. Subsequently, part of the defeated Polish army will fight as part of the Allied forces against Nazi Germany.

Thus, in fact, the defeat of Poland and the destruction of the Polish state by the Hitler forces was the result of the behavior of the allies - Britain and France. Today, almost eighty years after the start of the Second World War, this behavior cannot be called anything other than traitorous. Both Great Britain and France had a huge military and economic potential, which made it possible, especially in the 1939 year, to defeat Hitler Germany. Recall that by September 1939, Germany still had far from the human, technical and economic resources that it was able to concentrate by the 1941 year, by the time of the attack on the Soviet Union. If necessary, the allies of Poland could successfully defeat the Wehrmacht. However, this did not happen. Why? This question still does not leave the historians of the whole world. After all, the exact answer to it will shed light on who really stood at the beginning of World War II - not only in the role of pawns - cannon fodder, but also in the role of puppeteers interested in destabilizing the situation in Eastern Europe. Great Britain and France allowed Hitler to "eat" Poland as well as he "ate" Austria and Czechoslovakia before, and then, after Poland, the Scandinavian countries.

Today, anti-Russian forces are trying to impose responsibility for the start of World War II not only on Hitler Germany, but also on the Soviet Union, accusing Moscow of alliance with Hitler and complicity in the division of Poland. In fact, it is much more guilty that the Polish state ceased to exist, Poland’s direct allies are the United Kingdom and France. They are the ones who bear full responsibility for the fact that they did not fulfill their allied obligations and allowed Hitler Germany to seize Poland.

For a whole month, Poland tried to resist the aggression of Hitler Germany, but France and the United Kingdom could not organize a full-scale offensive against Germany from the west. The result was the cessation of the existence of Poland. As for the entry of Soviet troops into Polish territory, it was caused precisely by considerations of protecting the Soviet Union from the aggressive policy of Nazi Germany. If Soviet troops had not occupied Western Ukraine and Western Belarus, they would have been in the hands of the Nazis after the defeat of Poland and Hitlerite Germany would have come close to the most important Soviet regions much earlier than 1941.
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  1. +3
    12 September 2017 07: 39
    If Soviet troops did not occupy Western Ukraine and Western Belarus
    ... It is possible that the Allies reconciled with Germany and would start a general campaign against the USSR ... or Hitler began the campaign, but with the full support of France and England ..
    1. +5
      12 September 2017 08: 40
      Quote: parusnik
      or Hitler began the campaign, but with the full support of France and England ..

      The most likely second option.
      “In June, delegations from England and France arrived in Moscow, having no authority to make any decisions. They were given the orientation to conduct“ negotiations for the sake of negotiations. ”12 meetings were held that did not lead to a concrete result.
      On August 15, the chief of the General Staff of the Red Army D. Shaposhnikov announced that the USSR was ready to set 136 divisions against the aggressor in Europe. At the same time, he outlined options for joint action and noted that the USSR, with the outbreak of war, "did not intend to adhere to defensive tactics." However, the Soviet proposals did not find support. "
      http://www.istmira.com/vtoraya-mirovaya-vojna/10-
      popytka-sozdaniya-sistemy-kollektivnoj.html
      In Soviet times, I read a book about those negotiations and the EMNIP, then during those negotiations the British and French tried to find out how much the Red Army can withstand Germany, but they refused the Treaty on the Creation of Collective Security in Europe by any means. Therefore, they sent secondary officials to Moscow.
      1. +3
        12 September 2017 16: 22
        Quote: Amurets
        In June, delegations from England and France arrived in Moscow, having no authority to make any decisions. They were instructed to conduct "negotiations for the sake of negotiations."

        It was even cooler: the Allies notified the Reich. that negotiations with the USSR they are only a reserve means for genuine reconciliation with Germany and that these ties will disappear as soon as the only important and worthy goal is really achieved — an agreement with Germany.
        In the spring and summer of 1939, England and France again tried to find an acceptable basis for an agreement with Germany, using the threat of rapprochement with the USSR to put pressure on Berlin. However, it was quite obvious that they were not eager to have Moscow as an equal partner - this completely contradicted their foreign policy strategy. It was no accident at the end of July that England informed Germany that negotiations with other countries "are only a reserve means for genuine reconciliation with Germany and that these ties will disappear as soon as the only important and worthy goal is reached — an agreement with Germany." It is clear that under these conditions, as negotiations in Moscow showed, England and France were not going to agree that the Soviet Union along with them would have the right to determine when Germany acts as an aggressor. This explains the futile discussion on the definition of "indirect aggression." As a result of the mutual suspicion and intransigence of the parties, the Anglo-Franco-Soviet negotiations actually failed by mid-July.
        However, an open recognition of this fact would deprive England and the USSR of means of pressure on Germany, therefore, on July 23, London and Paris agreed to the military talks proposed by the Soviet side. It was not by chance that the composition of the Anglo-French military delegations was not very representative, and their instructions provided that “before the conclusion; of a political agreement, the delegation should ... negotiate very slowly, following the development of political negotiations. ” Regarding Poland, the instructions noted that “direct assistance to Poland from the British and French forces is almost impossible”, but “the Poles do not want to enter into direct relations with Russia in peacetime in order to prepare cooperation during the war” they argue that this would be provocation against Germany. We see this as an excuse, because the real reason is; that they fear being forced to agree to the use of Russian troops in Poland. They are afraid that they will not be able to get rid of these troops in the future and prevent the “communization” of the Polish peasants ... It is quite obvious that if the Poles can be encouraged to accept Russian air forces and materials, then in any case they do not want to have Russian soldiers on of its territory ”
        Still hoping to reach an agreement with Germany, the British government did not want as a result of negotiations with the USSR “to be drawn into any definite obligation that could tie our hands under any circumstances. Therefore, with regard to a military agreement, one should strive to limit oneself to the more general formulations as possible. ” It is no coincidence that the French delegation had the authority only to negotiate, and the British delegation had no written authority at all.
        © Meltiukhov M.I. Soviet-Polish war. Military-political confrontation 1918-1939
        1. +2
          12 September 2017 18: 55
          I read that already after the conclusion of the nonaggression pact with Germany (Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact), the USSR turned to France with an offer to resume negotiations.
          The pact did not interfere with this, since it was a guarantee against attack, and the agreement between the USSR, France and England was defensive.
      2. +1
        12 September 2017 16: 30
        Moreover, the Allies also threw the Poles - because the real time of the mobilization and deployment of the French army did not allow fulfilling the requirements of the Treaty with Poland within the timeframes specified in the Treaty. The date of readiness of the French army indicated in the article - 12.09.1939/3/12 - is the date of the completion of mobilization. But the fact is that the matter did not end with mobilization: the French army had a very cunning deployment system (worse than our "troika"), according to which the deployment took place in XNUMX stages: frame-> parts of reserve A-> from reserve A parts of reserve B are allocated. As a result, by September XNUMX, only personnel units were ready. moreover, weakened due to the formation of a reserve.
        Officially, general mobilization began on September 1, 1939. It took place both in the European part of the country and in the colonies (in particular, in North Africa). After its announcement, a mass conscription of reservists into the army began. At that time, another 85 regiments and half-brigades of reserve "A" were created from personnel infantry regiments. The backbone of such infantry regiments was made up of military personnel, and most of the personnel were recruited from reservists. Then, personnel were allocated from the regiments of reserve “A” to form 61 regiments and half-brigades of reserve “B”. They were fully equipped with 30-40-year-old reservists. The reserve divisions could enter the battle no earlier than September 22, as they needed time to form, train, equip and concentrate. Despite the age of the soldiers, parts of reserve B were not necessarily the weakest in the army, although they were considered such.

        There were less than half of regular divisions formed from well-trained units and better equipped with artillery (d_prospero relative to the entire army). The rest - reserve divisions - were divided into second-rate formations "A" and "B", usually worse armed, equipped and trained
        © d_prospero
        1. +2
          12 September 2017 18: 47
          Quote: Alexey RA
          Moreover, the Allies also threw the Poles - because the real time of mobilization and deployment of the French army did not allow fulfilling the requirements of the Treaty with Poland within the time periods specified in the Treaty


          When you go to the store for shopping, you need a bargaining chip and you use it to make a purchase. This is commensurate with the store and with politics.
          1. +2
            12 September 2017 18: 55
            Quote: 27091965i
            When you go to the store for shopping, you need a bargaining chip and you use it to make a purchase. This is commensurate with the store and with politics.

            Well, the Poles imagined themselves not a bargaining chip, but powerleader of Eastern Europe Sanitary cordon ... but what is there - all of Europe! smile
            Their example of Czechoslovakia, neatly merged, despite the same treaties, did not teach anything.
            1. +3
              12 September 2017 19: 02
              Quote: Alexey RA
              Well, the Poles imagined themselves not as a bargaining chip, but as a power, the leader of Eastern Europe ... what’s Eastern - all of Europe!


              To do this, they were created conditions where they had to feel themselves with this force, not realizing that they (Poles) would be the first to be hit.
              "Want to make a man stupid, make him proud"
              1. +1
                14 September 2017 20: 32
                It was proved (but hushed up) that Poland under Pilsudski secretly developed weapons of mass destruction - bacteriological and chemical. Bacteriological weapons were secretly tested on Red Army prisoners captured in 1920, who died thousands without medical help from a wide variety of diseases, especially infectious diseases (for example, typhoid). In the Polish concentration camps, as a result, over 2 prisoners of war died in the course of 3 -100000 years. The burial of their remains was carried out secretly with the deliberate concealment of burial places and documents about them. As for chemical weapons, they were discovered in September 1939, in particular, on Polish river warships in the Pinsk region. According to intelligence information obtained by the USSR leadership in the 20s and 30s, pilots were preparing chemical weapons for use in the war against the USSR. By 1938, the topic of joint aggression against the USSR using weapons of mass destruction (chemical and bacteriological) was discussed at secret negotiations between German and Polish military intelligence on the eve of the joint invasion of Czechoslovakia in September 1938. Finland was also supposed to participate in the attack on the USSR, with possible the use of bacteriological and chemical weapons in Leningrad, which was then in the reach of the Finnish artillery. In these conditions of mortal threat, the Soviet leadership was simply obliged to prepare urgent political and military measures to ensure the security of the country and the population of the western regions of Belarus and Ukraine, as well as Karelia in 1939-40.
          2. 0
            14 September 2017 06: 57
            When you go to the store for shopping, you need a bargaining chip and you use it to make a purchase. This is commensurate with the store and with politics.


            It is a store, only a blood store.
            Globalism of the modern type originated on the basis of the colonies of the British Empire at the end of the 19th century and for the first time in history received extra income during the First War, especially the United States, exceeding income from the colonies.
            So they decided to repeat.
            For: 1. We were sure that Germany within the territorial limits after the Treaty of Versailles, which did not have a resource base in the form of colonies in the likeness of England and France, could not even reach the level of the Kaiser empire.
            2. Holy believed in the impregnability of the Maginot line. Accordingly, playing the war, with a doubly weakened economy compared to 1914, Germany was considered a completely safe venture.
            3. The armies of England and France outnumbered everything that Germany could create then, and hiding not a criminal wall Maginot lines, they could push the ambitions of the German elite to the east in order to decide that they could not intervene in 1918 in Russia.
            4. The factories of American companies in Germany in 1930-1940 essentially helped intensively forge the Wehrmacht sword by 1941.
            For several months of 1933, industrial production increased by 70%, and by July of this year it amounted to 90% of the level of 1928. But development was very slow - after 1929-33. again a slight depression for 2-3 years, and only then the rise and in 1937 - again the crisis.
            We can distinguish the following ways to deal with the crisis. This is, first of all, public works through which money was delivered directly to consumers. After receiving the money, the workers went to the food market and launched demand there. Agriculture, consuming machinery, triggered demand in industry. But this path was limited. The economic policy of F. Roosevelt was not able to save the country from another economic crisis that occurred in 1937 and again hit the US economy more than other countries. For two years, the level of industrial production in the United States fell by 21%. The crisis of 1937-1938 again threw back the American economy a decade and a half ago. The volume of industrial production in the capitalist countries as a whole fell by 11% (in the USA by 21%). The most affected were steelmaking (in the United States by 21%), shipbuilding (by 40%), and a drop in production in new industries (as opposed to 1929-33, when the aviation industry and the radio industry suffered minor losses). In 1937, US car production fell by 40%.
            This crisis has not received development, because was interrupted by preparations for war.


            Well, the Banks of the New and Old so-called worlds, even in their eldest dreams, did not assume that IT IS NOT A CRIME LINE AT ALL, will be taken in a month, and the Anglo-French troops will be thrown by the German Wehrmacht in the English Channel.
            And in 1941, the American fleet will be drowned in Pearl Harbar.
            For they firmly believed that the second war in Europe would be a positional type of the first world war on the depletion of the two economies of Germany and the USSR, and the industrial companies of the Atlantic alliance would receive extra income from arms supplies. But it didn’t work out as planned
            And if it were not for the USSR, now there would be neither England, nor the USA, nor those who secretly prepared the Second World War in London and Washington.

            Now the same thing.
            War as a means of saving the American economy - part II http://vpk-news.ru/articles/8338
            The elites of England and the USA are enemies of the Russian people, at the level of the Nazi order of the SS,
            for they will do everything to erase the Eastern Slavs from the land, right up to the full genocide.

            And everyone who flirts with them today in the 21st century is likened to those who flirted with Hitler in 1939, and only thanks to the simple people, whose backbone were engineers, inventors, scientists, miscalculations made in politics from 1939-1941 at a cost of 27 million were eliminated , and the price is expensive.

            For Hitler is their child, and this diabolical hydra will have more children.
      3. 0
        12 September 2017 21: 12
        the situation would have been different, and World War II would have ended much earlier.
        WITHOUT ALL OPTIONS
        only cynicism
        - HOW WITHOUT "RATTEN THE SKIN OF THE RUSSIAN BEAR"?
        - And “BEAR” ITSELF WHAT I CLAIMED FOR?
        -What would the USA get with such a short WWII?
        - AS YAPES "WOULD BE ABLE TO MANIFEST YOUR SAMURAI KACH-VA" - IT IS ALREADY ALREADY IN JANUARY -MAY 1940 THE NEXT VERSAILLE CONFERENCE MAY BE HELD

        EVERYTHING WAS AGAINST VICTORY OVER GERMANY AUTUMN 39G
        1. +2
          12 September 2017 23: 19
          Quote: antivirus
          HOW THE YAPI "WOULD BE ABLE TO MANIFEST YOUR SAMURAI KACH-VA" - EVERYTHING ALREADY IN JANUARY -MAY 1940, ANOTHER VERSAILLE CONFERENCE MAY BE HELD

          Yapi considered themselves thrown by Germany. Germany did not consider it necessary to inform Italy and Japan about the preparation and conclusion of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. The Japanese also hoped for Germany’s help in the Khalkhin Gol war, but alas, Germany circled them around her finger.
          1. +1
            13 September 2017 07: 02
            shaving against Germany, yap-against all, but the little things .. interests are not united. defeat in WWII
            everything is so simple. did the skinny petty gesheftik lead to defeat separately?
            if Germ + Yapy strictly coordinated, then would the BR + USA + USSR also immediately start rigidly planning joint actions?
            1. 0
              13 September 2017 10: 53
              Quote: antivirus
              if Germ + Yapy strictly coordinated, then would the BR + USA + USSR also immediately start rigidly planning joint actions?

              How could Japan and the Reich manage to establish an operational and closed connection halfway around the world, especially if their opponents are between them?
              On the radio? It’s easier then to directly bring plans to some British embassy - at the same time save on electricity.
              By diplomatic mail through third countries? Non-operational + no control over the entire chain. And there is an option that the same limes or their agent will sit on this chain.
              Air traffic? The Italians tried in 1942 and the Germans in 1943. They made a couple of flights and refused - the probability of a “one-way trip” is too high.
              Remain submarines. Long, dangerous and not the fact that they will reach.

              And most importantly - for 1941, Japan and Germany have completely different goals. The Reich needs to crush the USSR, and Japan needs to capture oil fields. For already at the end of 1940 it was clear that the United States was beginning to drag out the oil noose. The first bell is the disruption by the Americans of the Japanese negotiations on the supply of oil and colormet ore from the Dutch colonies to Southeast Asia. When Japan tried to take over the seemingly orphan colonies of occupied Holland, the United States immediately took these colonies under its wing, laying its paw on their reserves.
              To get into the war with the USSR at once with an incomprehensible outcome (the generals in Tokyo, unlike the Kwantung Army, had a more realistic look at the Red Army in general and the Far East in particular), without having a reliable source of oil supplies for Japan like. Six months of such a war - and the country will remain with empty oil tanks. Come yankees, conquer ...
              In short
              If the German-Soviet war develops favorably for our empire, I believe that we will be able to use force to solve this problem and ensure the security of our northern borders.
              (...)
              I am convinced that America will not stand up for Indochina. The Soviet Union is too early to discount. We must wait 50 or 60 days. And only if we make sure that Germany is surely winning, will our turn come.
              © IJA Chief of Staff General Sugiyama, early July 1941
              1. 0
                13 September 2017 21: 35
                how little was awarded the Azerbaijani oilman for the discovery of oil in Western Siberia (Samotlor) !!!
                and for Almetyevsk,
                and for the extraction of Baku oil in the right direction (to the center of Russia)
  2. +4
    12 September 2017 08: 33
    Thus, in fact, the defeat of Poland and the destruction by the Nazi forces of the Polish state was a consequence of the behavior of the allies - Britain and France. Today, almost eighty years after the outbreak of World War II, this behavior cannot be called treacherous.
    .
    This is so, the French and Anglo-Saxons once again demonstrated their age-old qualities. It is surprising that today these limitrophs around the Russian Federation are seriously hoping for the protection of all the same .. But this is not the point.
    Surprisingly, then-Poland rejected Hitler's proposals:
    -corridor to East Prussia;
    -Danzig - a free city;
    -attach to the Anti-Comintern Pact.
    In Warsaw, it seems that the arrogant gentlemen did not understand who they were dealing with ...
    1. +1
      12 September 2017 11: 40
      Quote: Moore
      In Warsaw, it seems that the arrogant gentlemen did not understand who they were dealing with ...

      In the wake of the partition of Czechoslovakia, the Poles dreamed of "Greater Poland." From the Baltic Sea to the Black Sea. The Collective Security Treaty in Europe put an end to the dreams of the Poles.
      "The partition and destruction of Czechoslovakia as an independent state with the participation of Germany, Hungary and Poland in 1938-1939. These events are not officially included in the history of the Second World War, but are inextricably linked with it and may well be the first stage of this war."
      http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/1034443.html По ссылке: фотографии совместного ввода войск Германии и Польши в Чехословакию.
      That is why the Poles did not want to miss parts of the Red Army in Czechoslovakia.
  3. +8
    12 September 2017 08: 38
    I have a question for the author and for all kinds of critics of Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin. Whose interests should IOSIF VISSARIONOVICH STALIN defend? Really Poles and other French?
    When the Germans captured Paris, it was with great pleasure and gloating that they published the plan for the bombardment of the SOVIET UNION by the French and British. Only the defeat of the Anglo-French prevented the bombardment of the Soviet Union.
    1. +2
      12 September 2017 17: 37
      Quote: Vasily50
      I have a question for the author and for all kinds of critics of Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin. Whose interests should IOSIF VISSARIONOVICH STALIN defend? Really Poles and other French?
      When the Germans captured Paris, it was with great pleasure and gloating that they published the plan for the bombardment of the SOVIET UNION by the French and British. Only the defeat of the Anglo-French prevented the bombardment of the Soviet Union.

      I don’t know about such facts, I need to write articles to know the goat in person.
    2. 0
      14 September 2017 20: 31
      It was proved (but hushed up) that Poland under Pilsudski secretly developed weapons of mass destruction - bacteriological and chemical. Bacteriological weapons were secretly tested on Red Army prisoners captured in 1920, who died thousands without medical help from a wide variety of diseases, especially infectious diseases (for example, typhoid). In the Polish concentration camps, as a result, over 2 prisoners of war died in the course of 3 -100000 years. The burial of their remains was carried out secretly with the deliberate concealment of burial places and documents about them. As for chemical weapons, they were discovered in September 1939, in particular, on Polish river warships in the Pinsk region. According to intelligence information obtained by the USSR leadership in the 20s and 30s, pilots were preparing chemical weapons for use in the war against the USSR. By 1938, the topic of joint aggression against the USSR using weapons of mass destruction (chemical and bacteriological) was discussed at secret negotiations between German and Polish military intelligence on the eve of the joint invasion of Czechoslovakia in September 1938. Finland was also supposed to participate in the attack on the USSR, with possible the use of bacteriological and chemical weapons in Leningrad, which was then in the reach of the Finnish artillery. In these conditions of mortal threat, the Soviet leadership was simply obliged to prepare urgent political and military measures to ensure the security of the country and the population of the western regions of Belarus and Ukraine, as well as Karelia in 1939-40.
  4. +2
    12 September 2017 10: 53
    So today they will merge zheks if, like the used product number 2. Again they believe in the West. Prussia and Austria were torn apart (Russia is forced), Napoleon took advantage, in 1939 the West did not intercede, what other arguments should I give?
  5. +3
    12 September 2017 11: 55
    it’s so in Polish --- loudly rattling the grandfather’s chabble, clogging the mustache, stomping with the yellow chobot - and ... throw arrows from the spot at the very first
    1. +2
      12 September 2017 17: 32
      Well, until the White Eagle gets in its beak, it scary claws with its claws.
      The homeland of the Poles is not the first country to have claims to the whole world that states pursue policies guided by their own interests, although in reality they must follow the interests of Poland. Eight years after the founding of Israel, being in this country and listening to the local complaints against America, England, France, Arab countries, Germany, Russia, China, etc., I finally asked: “Is there such a state in the world, which you consider friendly with Israel? '
      A senior official at the Israeli Foreign Ministry thought for a long time and, in the end, said: "Burma." For Poland, apparently, the globe is becoming a map of our claims.
      It is worth noting that Poland always requires other countries to recognize its interests as paramount in comparison with their own. And always - for the merits that she grabs from the past. There is no current reason to particularly reckon with our country, if you do not take into account pickles and the like. Despite this, Poland rightly considers itself to be the navel of the world. After all, the navel is an organ of the human body, absolutely unnecessary, unimportant and not particularly beautiful.
      © Jerzy Urban. Wild tribe. 2004 year
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        14 September 2017 20: 28
        It was proved (but hushed up) that Poland under Pilsudski secretly developed weapons of mass destruction - bacteriological and chemical. Bacteriological weapons were secretly tested on Red Army prisoners captured in 1920, who died thousands without medical help from a wide variety of diseases, especially infectious diseases (for example, typhoid). In the Polish concentration camps, as a result, over 2 prisoners of war died in the course of 3 -100000 years. The burial of their remains was carried out secretly with the deliberate concealment of burial places and documents about them. As for chemical weapons, they were discovered in September 1939, in particular, on Polish river warships in the Pinsk region. According to intelligence information obtained by the USSR leadership in the 20s and 30s, pilots were preparing chemical weapons for use in the war against the USSR. By 1938, the topic of joint aggression against the USSR using weapons of mass destruction (chemical and bacteriological) was discussed at secret negotiations between German and Polish military intelligence on the eve of the joint invasion of Czechoslovakia in September 1938. Finland was also supposed to participate in the attack on the USSR, with possible the use of bacteriological and chemical weapons in Leningrad, which was then in the reach of the Finnish artillery. In these conditions of mortal threat, the Soviet leadership was simply obliged to prepare urgent political and military measures to ensure the security of the country and the population of the western regions of Belarus and Ukraine, as well as Karelia in 1939-40.
    2. 0
      13 September 2017 14: 22
      As my great-grandfather used to say - Poles have more swagger than panamanism ...
  6. +1
    12 September 2017 13: 03
    They didn’t blink, but simply betrayed the Poles. By the way, the Poles have not grown wiser since then. drinks
  7. +3
    12 September 2017 13: 08
    Off topic.
    Tonight, I read memoirs, and I was surprised to learn an amazing fact: it turns out that they were escaped from an encirclement near Stalingrad to meet Manstein in December and who? did not hear.
    1. +1
      12 September 2017 14: 13
      bullshit - it’s reliably known only about one corporal who went to his own in the Zverevo district and then he escaped from captivity. There was another non-commissioned officer who also came to his own from the boiler. But he later died of frostbite. There is also information about several prisoners of war from Stalingrad who, during the abandonment of Kharkov, in March 1943, hid and were liberated by the advancing ss-mans, but it is hard to believe, why the hell to drag half-dead prisoners from Stalingrad to Kharkov, when there’s a lot of fresh and fresh
      1. 0
        12 September 2017 20: 24
        Not rubbish, but the truth, if you don’t know something, that doesn’t mean that it didn’t happen. I read on the site "I Remember", the author of the memoirs, a veteran of the NKVD, a Lithuanian Jew, I don’t remember his last name, on D .... From two parts of the memory ... Right now I'll look for his last name ...
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          12 September 2017 20: 33
          Dushansky Nakhman Noakhovich - his name, read and enjoy, memories in two parts, very interesting, this case, with the breakthrough of Lithuanian punitive from Stalingrad, in the first part, as far as I remember.
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            12 September 2017 20: 39
            The iremember site is “I Remember,” by Drabkin.
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              12 September 2017 23: 12
              This is from the field of legends. The 7th Lithuanian police battalion under the command of Jonas Semashka guarded highways throughout 1942 in Ukraine. At Drabkin it is written that at the beginning of 1943 he was surrounded in Stalingrad. This is far from Ukraine. It is racial in Lithuanian neo-Nazi circles.
              In which section of the front was the breakthrough of the environment? Anyone find an official document?
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                12 September 2017 23: 40
                You would read at the beginning, but I pointed out that. But it turns out: I did not read, but I condemn. The author to whom I refer, after the war, fought with these same Lithuanian Nazi bandits, he has more information than you.
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                  12 September 2017 23: 49
                  I have read and affirm that this is a myth. You would first check what you write.
                  All the books of Drabkin are in my electronic form. I read with pleasure, but I am not obliged to believe all nonsense.
                  There was no Lithuanian battalion in Stalingrad. And there was no breakthrough from the boiler either. A list of all parts of the 6th Army down to individual companies is given in the studies of German authors. In the cauldron were Germans, Romanians, Hungarians, Italians. There were no Lithuanians there
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                    13 September 2017 00: 34
                    Maybe there were no Croats there? Or are you just teaching accuracy others? Start with yourself, answer for your words.
                    1. 0
                      13 September 2017 00: 37
                      And yes, nothing really is often known to this day. A lot of people claim that the Finns fought near Moscow, but according to the documents it is not. This is just an example.
                    2. +2
                      13 September 2017 00: 45
                      I can answer for my words. To list all? I do not see the point in the debate. Find the battle path of the 7th police battalion and you will see that you are mistaken. I wrote where they were. I’ll write more precisely. September, October 1942 The 7th battalion was in Vinnitsa, guarding a prisoner of war camp. They have never been to Stalingrad.
                      And now absolutely utter things. The beginning of 1943. Six armies of the Stalingrad front surround the German group. Operation Winter Thunder has already failed. Hitler personally forbade a breakthrough from the ring. General Seidlitz-Kurbach is almost led under escort for an attempt to break through without permission. And you say that the Nazi Schmidt personally allowed the Lithuanians to break through? One battalion without the support of tanks, artillery, aviation broke through the triple ring, walked hundreds of kilometers along the frozen steppe and went to the Germans? What could not Goth’s tankers do, did one Lithuanian battalion do it? Moreover, a policeman, that is, without heavy weapons.
                      You can continue to believe in fairy tales. I'm sorry for the time spent.
                      1. +1
                        13 September 2017 01: 14
                        Yes, I don’t argue with you, you’re right, I guess.
                      2. 0
                        13 September 2017 01: 29
                        You surprise me, in a bad sense. Judging by your comment, you didn’t read the veteran’s words, because it is about DECEMBER and a breakthrough to MANSTEIN.
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                        13 September 2017 01: 41
                        And it's not about Schmidt, there, supposedly, Paulus gave permission. And what, could the battalion not seep in? Could, not too large a unit.
                        And if the Lithuanians were in Vinnitsa in October, why couldn’t they get to Stalingrad in November? What is the problem? Can you still read the veteran’s words for a start? Or is the Chukchi not a reader, a Chukchi writer?
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                        13 September 2017 03: 04
                        My message from 01:14 to be considered an achyatka wink I blurted out not at the box office: we argue, and not the fact that you are right.

                        By the way, there, Estonians, allegedly, fell under the distribution, I read it somewhere, I vaguely remember. When our attack began, the Estonians came under our blow, but did not retreat to the cauldron, but to the west. Also, apparently, punitive.

                        But the Lithuanians made sense to break out of the cauldron, the Germans could hope for captivity and life, and the Lithuanian punishers only had a light rope, so their motivation for a breakthrough was higher than the roof, so to speak.
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                        13 September 2017 06: 01
                        And why the Germans of Lithuania could have been transferred to Stalingrad in November, too. The Germans, however, thought that in November they would take the city during the freeze-up period, and if they did, they would do their favorite thing - genocide.
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          12 September 2017 23: 23
          Addition to that nonsense that you wrote. Jonas Semashka received the Iron Cross for shooting civilians in the Pskov region. At the beginning of 1943 he was near Voronezh. During the Ostrogozhsk-Rossoshanskoy operation, the Germans hastily plugged holes in the front and threw punishers to the front. But it’s not to shoot old people and children. The battalion was defeated, lost half the composition and draped right into Kaunas. There they began to mold the legend of a breakthrough from Stalingrad.
          Had to browse the internet. What you wrote is a neo-Nazi myth of Lithuanian disadvantages.
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            12 September 2017 23: 53
            You yourself aren’t stupid. For what I bought, for which I am selling - is it clear? These are not my words, but the words of the person who lived then. Moreover, he didn’t just live, but actively fought with the Nazi bandits. If he suddenly makes a mistake, it’s his a mistake, not mine.
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              13 September 2017 00: 05
              When you write something, you must be responsible for your words. A person could be mistaken. Moreover, Drabkin says that a state security officer fought against the forest brothers. And the myth already existed then. So he said about the rumors that then went.
              It is not necessary to engage in copy-paste a lot of mind. You were told that this is not true. A normal person should check and apologize for giving false information. And do not get into the bottle.
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                13 September 2017 00: 31
                Speak yourself politely for a start, then they will politely speak with you. And it’s not Drabkin’s written, but this is a direct speech of a veteran. I repeat, for a very smart guy: for what I bought, I sell it for that.
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                  13 September 2017 00: 46
                  I answer politely for now. You bought bullshit and you sell bullshit. Is it so intelligible?
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                    13 September 2017 01: 35
                    Deal better with your purchases, otherwise you are not commenting on what you are commenting on, it's rather stupid of you.
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                      13 September 2017 06: 55
                      First is your purchases
                      Secondly, I read what I comment on
                      And, finally, in the third. Before you say anything, you need to check what you say
                      And then look pretty stupid. It’s uncritical to accept one art book puts you in a stupid position.
                      Specially for you. The exit from the environment of one Lithuanian bptplion is not confirmed anywhere in any document and is an invention of the Lithuanian Nazis.
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                        13 September 2017 07: 40
                        I wrote to you above, you did not answer.

                        About the art book did not understand, what are you talking about?

                        Much of what was in the war was not confirmed by any documents, but nonetheless it was.

                        What evidence is there? Where were the Lithuanians in November-December? Do you know? Witnessed, are there documents?
    2. +2
      12 September 2017 17: 31
      Quote: Mood Ozvon
      Off topic.
      Tonight, I read memoirs, and I was surprised to learn an amazing fact: it turns out that they were escaped from an encirclement near Stalingrad to meet Manstein in December and who? did not hear.

      A German works with me, his father was a radio operator with the commander of a tank group, which was trying to break through the ring. by the way this German has a Russian wife, from Siberia laughing
  8. +1
    12 September 2017 15: 04
    they didn’t “miss”, Poland was doomed from the very beginning, was it in vain that the French had the Maginot line? They hoped to sit behind her, while Hitler, according to their plan, should go further east after Poland (the Hitler project was created for this), but Hitler outplayed them and decided to neutralize France before attacking the USSR.
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      13 September 2017 14: 29
      Naturally doomed ... but how else could it go to the border with the USSR.
  9. +1
    12 September 2017 16: 12
    They hated Poland both from the west and from the east. Apparently, the French did not want to fight for it. I am silent about the British ...
    1. +1
      12 September 2017 18: 06
      Quote: Music
      They hated Poland both from the west and from the east.

      Duc ... in a short time of independence Poland managed to chop off the neighbors:
      from Lithuania - the Vilnius province (in the 20s the Poles wanted to arrange the second section - the USSR, Germany and the League of Nations prevented, in the late 30s the situation came to ultimatums, but then the USSR and France joined Lithuania together with Lithuania);
      from Germany - a third of Upper Silesia;
      from Czechoslovakia - half of the Teshinsky principality (this is still in the early 20s, before the partition of the emergency in 1938);
      from the future of the USSR - Kresy Wschodnie, and not limited to the "Curzon Line".
      And then these:
  10. +2
    12 September 2017 17: 33
    Well, that's the truth about the Poles and the beginning of the war began to climb out, or else there will be good
    in Danzig, Germans were killed by thousands, after Hitler’s repeated warnings to stop lawlessness, Adik put them in a lyuley.
    1. +1
      12 September 2017 23: 46
      Quote: 32363
      Well, that’s the truth about the Poles and the beginning of the war began to climb out, will there still be?

      Probably, the Poles will once again perform their favorite polonaise: Mikhail Oginsky. "Farewell to the Motherland."
  11. +2
    12 September 2017 18: 53
    And who was there to help? I agree that the French and British did not intend to help. But we must also look at the chronology ...
    On September 1, President I. Moscitsky left Warsaw; on September 4, the evacuation of government agencies began. On September 5, the government left Warsaw, and on the night of September 7, the Supreme Commander-in-Chief E. Rydz-Smigly.

    Moreover, Rydz-Smigly forgot the codes in Warsaw and moved to Brest-Litovsk, where there was 1 (one) radio station. How was the command of the troops this song should be composed. Since September XNUMX, the troops have not received a single instruction from their Supreme.
    And when on September 17, Molotov tried to hand the note to the Polish ambassador to the USSR, he refused with all his might. To Molotov’s remark that the ambassador MUST accept the note, he finally admitted that he was not able to hand it over to the government due to the lack thereof.
    Who was there to help?
    1. +1
      12 September 2017 19: 06
      On the night of September 6-7, 1939, the commander of the Polish army Edward Rydz-Smigly left Warsaw, taking with him part of the anti-aircraft artillery and the entire fighter air brigade that covered the capital. Leaving Warsaw, the commander there forgot the codes for the radio station, because of which he could not lead the troops.
      ------
      September 10, 1939 the Polish commander arrived in Vladimir-Volynsky. When they received the codes for the radio station, it turned out that the transmitter had failed. I had to contact the troops through the radio station of the river flotilla in Pinsk, which transmitted the orders of the marshal to the headquarters of the fleet, and from there to the main headquarters.
      -------
      September 13, 1939 the Polish commander arrived in the town of Mlynov.
      -------
      September 15, 1939 the Polish commander Rydz-Smigly arrived in the city of Kolomyia on the Romanian border.
      -------
      On September 17, 1939, the Polish commander Rydz Smigly arrived in Romania.

      And the cherry on the cake
      Representative of the French Army at the Polish General Staff on September 10 reported to Paris that “complete chaos reigns here. The main Polish command has almost no connection with the fighting armies and large units ... It has absolutely no information about the advancement of the enemy and even about the position of its own troops is very incompletely informed or not at all. The General Staff fell into two parts ... The Polish army, in fact, was defeated in the very first days».
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        12 September 2017 20: 37
        As for the cherry on the cake: as we have at the beginning of the war.
        1. +2
          12 September 2017 22: 57
          A bit wrong. The Red Army lost the Cross-Border Battle. But it was not defeated. So the comparison fails. And our Government and the Commander-in-Chief did not run around cities and towns.
          So it’s not at all like that.
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            13 September 2017 08: 42
            We simply have a large territory, that’s all. And with a territory like the Poles there would also be a war lost in a month.
            1. +1
              13 September 2017 14: 38
              The larger the territory, the more difficult the management, logistics, mobilization and the more difficult it is to organize defense (and more expensive)
              1. 0
                15 September 2017 05: 21
                Well yes, Liechtenstein is stronger than China, I believe laughing
                1. 0
                  15 September 2017 09: 22
                  And horses are faster than tanks - the French in 1812 were much faster than the Germans before Moscow galloped ...
  12. +1
    12 September 2017 19: 33
    ICHS, the Poles are 100% sure that in the event of a new mess, the "NATO partners" will rush together to save them from the "bloody Mordor". Rake Dancing ... laughing
  13. +3
    13 September 2017 07: 10
    Quote: Mood Ozvon
    You surprise me, in a bad sense. Judging by your comment, you didn’t read the veteran’s words, because it is about DECEMBER and a breakthrough to MANSTEIN.

    I’m rejecting it.
    The veteran took advantage of the fact that at that moment the Lithuanians were goaory. According to Lithuanian data, the battalion was encircled in early 1943. Although Paulus was surrounded on November 21, 1942. Operation Winter Thunderstorm launched by Manstein on December 20, 1942. In October 1942, Paulus received no reinforcements. His last reinforcement was 6 combat engineer battalions from Germany. The Lithuanian BVL battalion was transferred from Vinnitsa to the Voronezh region and defeated during the Ostrogozh-Rossoshanskaya operation. Just at the beginning of 1943. Perhaps it was then that he broke through from the environment. But this is far from Stalingrad. Jonas Semashka himself received the Iron Cross for punitive operations in the Pskov region long before Stalingrad. Paulus could not give an order for a breakthrough And Schmidt could not give such an order. For the simple reason that there was a definitive order of Hitler forbidding a breakthrough. Even Manstein could not get such permission from Hitler. With such a request flew to Hitler Hube. To no avail
    In all sources, the same version (word for word) from Lithuanian neo-Nazi circles wanders. No serious research of the Battle of Stalingrad confirms this version.
    All this allows us to conclude that this story is fiction from the first to the last word.
    PS I can’t know the fate of every battalion. But the general course of events is well known. And using the Internet for a quick check is not difficult at all .. I like Drabkin’s books, but he uses the memories of eyewitnesses. And they can be mistaken, like all people. Therefore, much more reliable studies and documents
  14. +3
    13 September 2017 08: 34
    Mood Ozwon,
    I later saw and answered. An art book is all the books of Drabkin. These are just the memories of the participants. They are interesting, informative, but in this case the officer himself used the rumors.
    Many facts are recorded and recorded. The history of the Battle of Stalingrad is well covered in the memoirs of German historians.
    In Lithuanian sources it is said either about Paulus’s personal order, or about Schmidt’s personal order. Paulus' chief of staff, General Schmidt, was an ardent Nazi, and it was under his pressure that Paulus rejected the idea of ​​a breakthrough when there was still such an opportunity. Hitler's categorical order stated that it was forbidden to leave the "fortress of Stalingrad". At the end of January, the evacuation of valuable specialists began. Then Hube flew to Berlin with a request to allow a breakthrough. But in January it was already late. Hube returned to Stalingrad and a day later, on Hitler's personal order, he was taken out of the city.
    We have been discussing this topic for a long time. Personally, everything is clear to me. The 7th Lithuanian police battalion under the command of Major Jonas Semashka was near Voronezh. There it is defeated. Perhaps he was surrounded and broke out of it, losing up to 50% of the personnel. He was withdrawn to Kaunas and disbanded there. Strange for such a "heroic" unit. And then legendary stories about Lithuanian heroes began to appear.
    I had to look through the book "Lithuanian Police Battalions 1941-1945". There, this story appears word for word as in other stories. Lithuanian historians themselves are cautious about this story and try to use it only for domestic consumption. Replicating this myth is not good for a Russian site.
    1. +1
      13 September 2017 08: 50
      Well, you’re most likely right, we drove through - closed the discussion of this topic.
  15. 0
    14 September 2017 20: 11
    It was proved (but hushed up) that Poland under Pilsudski secretly developed weapons of mass destruction - bacteriological and chemical. Bacteriological weapons were secretly tested on Red Army prisoners captured in 1920, who died thousands without medical help from a wide variety of diseases, especially infectious diseases (for example, typhoid). In the Polish concentration camps, as a result, over 2 prisoners of war died in the course of 3 -100000 years. The burial of their remains was carried out secretly with the deliberate concealment of burial places and documents about them. As for chemical weapons, they were discovered in September 1939, in particular, on Polish river warships in the Pinsk region. According to intelligence information obtained by the USSR leadership in the 20s and 30s, pilots were preparing chemical weapons for use in the war against the USSR. By 1938, the topic of joint aggression against the USSR using weapons of mass destruction (chemical and bacteriological) was discussed at secret negotiations between German and Polish military intelligence on the eve of the joint invasion of Czechoslovakia in September 1938. Finland was also supposed to participate in the attack on the USSR, with possible the use of bacteriological and chemical weapons in Leningrad, which was then in the reach of the Finnish artillery. In these conditions of mortal threat, the Soviet leadership was simply obliged to prepare urgent political and military measures to ensure the security of the country and the population of the western regions of Belarus and Ukraine, as well as Karelia in 1939-40.
  16. 0
    14 September 2017 21: 37
    Pilsudski and Dzerzhinsky studied at the same gymnasium (Russian) in Vilna. Both are Catholics, the FED even dreamed of becoming a xenos. The first and second in 1905 went into anti-Russian terrorism. Pilsudski, with Japanese money (he traveled to Japan), recruited 10000 terrorists, FED - only 1500. Polish terrorists killed about 10000 Russian employees in Poland and Lithuania in 1904-10. From its own FED created the Social Democracy of Poland and Lithuania, which autonomously entered the RSDLP, and then the CPSU (b). “Self-dissolved” only in 1918, when it made up the backbone of the Cheka. In 1919, she tried to create the so-called armed force. The "Vilnius Republic" - as it were, the Polish-Lithuanian. The pilotschuk’s division brutally dealt with her, and commanded the mass shootings directly to Rydz-Smigly. Russians, Lithuanians and Jews were put to the walls by hundreds. Pilsudski and Rydz became Polish national heroes, and later Polish marshals. The FED executed and pardoned in Soviet Russia until 1926. Its personnel were cleaned from the NKVD and the Red Army only during the "great purge" of 1937-38. In 1938 alone, 1100 Poles were removed from the Red Army, with 3000 commanders from the battalion commander and above cleared of such "nationals" with the Lithuanians, Germans and Estonians. Stalin defeated them! Otherwise, in 1939, and even more so in 1941, the USSR would have been ruined for sure.
  17. 0
    2 October 2017 11: 45
    when once again they put a fake about the USSR to you that he started the war send them ........ to Mr. Churchill, or rather to his "Fulton speech", he will not lie! Today, a black shadow has fallen on the stage of post-war life, more recently, shining in the bright light of an allied victory. No one can say what can be expected in the near future from Soviet Russia and the international communist community led by it, and what are the limits, if any, of their expansionist aspirations and persistent efforts to convert the whole world to their faith. I personally admire the heroic Russian people and have great respect for my wartime comrade Marshal Stalin. In Britain - like, I have no doubt, in your America too - with deep sympathy and sincere disposition towards all the peoples of Soviet Russia. Despite numerous disagreements with the Russians and all kinds of problems arising in connection with this, we intend to further strengthen friendly relations with them. We understand the desire of the Russians to secure their western borders and thereby eliminate the possibility of a new German aggression. We are glad that Russia has taken its rightful place among the leading countries of the world. We are glad to see her flag on the wide expanses of the seas. And most importantly, we are pleased that the ties between the Russian people and our two kindred peoples on both sides of the Atlantic

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    are becoming more regular and durable. At the same time, I consider it my duty to draw your attention to some facts that give an idea of ​​the current situation in Europe, setting them out to you as I see them, against which, I would hope, you will not mind.

    Stretching across the continent from Stettin11 on the Baltic Sea to Trieste on the Adriatic, the Iron Curtain descended on Europe. The capitals of the states of Central and Eastern Europe - states whose history spans many, many centuries - were on the other side of the curtain. Warsaw and Berlin, Prague and Vienna12, Budapest and Belgrade, Bucharest and Sofia - all these glorious metropolitan cities with all their inhabitants and with the entire population of the cities and regions surrounding them fell, as I would call it, into the sphere of Soviet influence. This influence manifests itself in different forms, but no one can leave it. Moreover, these countries are subject to increasingly tangible control, and often direct pressure from Moscow. Athens alone, the capital of ancient and ever-beautiful Greece, was given the opportunity to decide its future in free and equal elections, conducted under the supervision of Great Britain, the United States and France. The Polish government, controlled by Russia and clearly encouraged by it, is taking monstrous and mostly unreasonably severe sanctions against Germany, involving millions, unheard of in scale German deportation,

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    expelled from Poland. The Communist parties of Eastern European states, which were never very numerous, have acquired an unreasonably huge role in the life of their countries, which is clearly not proportional to the number of party members, and now they are striving to get completely uncontrolled power. The governments in all these countries cannot be called police officers, and there is no need to speak about the existence of genuine democracy in them, with the exception of Czechoslovakia, at least for the time being. When at one time I saw an imminent danger and appealed to my fellow citizens and to the whole world to stop it, no one listened to my words.

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    And yet, until 1933 or even until 1935, Germany could still be saved from the terrible fate awaiting her, and mankind would have avoided the innumerable troubles that Hitler had brought down upon him. Throughout world history, there is no other example of a war that could have been as easily avoided as the recent bloody massacre that underwent devastating gait across the earth. It was only necessary to take the necessary measures in a timely manner, and, I am sure, the Second World War would be averted, without a single shot, and Germany could become a prosperous, powerful and respected country. However, no one believed in the impending danger, and gradually, one after another, the countries of the world became drawn into a monstrous maelstrom of war. We must not allow a similar catastrophe to recur, and to achieve this today, in 1946, is only possible through normal relations and comprehensive understanding with Russia under the auspices of the United Nations. The maintenance of such relations for many, many peaceful years should be ensured not only by the authority of the United Nations, but also by the full power of the United States, Great Britain and other English-speaking countries and their allies. Such is the main point of the essence of my proposals, which I allowed myself to introduce to my esteemed audience in my presentation today, which I called "The Muscles of the World."
  18. 0
    2 October 2017 11: 51
    and now I’m translating it into Russian - the B-yad politics of the tops of the Western countries led to war, including Poland’s failure to pass the Red Army troops through its territory to help Czechoslovakia (Munich agreement !!!!!) The betrayal of England and France against Poland (a strange war), and Russia, as always, is to blame !!!!
  19. 0
    2 October 2017 12: 00
    And when I slip you a fake about the fact that the USSR began the war, send them ...... to Mr. Cherchel, more precisely to his "Fulton speech"! If we want to have such a brotherly union that I just talked about, with all the extra power and security that both our countries can extract from it, let's make this great work known everywhere and play a role in strengthening the foundations of the world. Better to prevent a disease than to treat it.
    A shadow fell on the picture of the world so recently illuminated by the victory of the Allies. No one knows what Soviet Russia and its international communist organization intend to do in the near future and what are the limits, if any, of their expansionist and reversal tendencies. I deeply admire and respect the valiant Russian people and my wartime comrade Marshal Stalin. In England - I have no doubt that here, too - they have deep sympathy and goodwill for all the peoples of Russia and determination to overcome numerous disagreements and disruptions in the name of establishing lasting friendship. We understand that Russia needs to ensure the security of its western borders from the possible resumption of German aggression. We are glad to see her in her rightful place among the leading world powers. We salute her flag on the seas. And above all, we welcome the constant, frequent and growing ties between the Russians and our peoples on both sides of the Atlantic. However, I consider it my duty to state some facts to you - I am sure that you would like me to state the facts to you as they appear to me - about the current situation in Europe. Last time, watching such a development of events, I cried out loud to my compatriots and to the whole world, but no one wanted to listen. Until 1933, or even until 1935, Germany could be saved from the terrible fate that befell it, and we would be spared from the misfortunes that Hitler brought down on humanity. Never in history has there been a war that would have been easier to prevent by timely action than one that has just devastated vast areas of the globe. I am convinced that it could have been prevented without firing a shot, and today Germany would have been a powerful, prosperous and respected country; but then they didn’t want to listen to me, and one by one we were drawn into a terrible tornado. We must not allow this to happen again.
    Now this can only be achieved by achieving today, in 1946, good understanding with Russia on all issues under the auspices of the United Nations, maintaining this good understanding with this global tool for many years, relying on the full power of the English-speaking world and all those who is associated with it. Let no one underestimate the impressive power of the British Empire and the Commonwealth. Suppose you see on our island 46 million people who are experiencing food difficulties, and may we have difficulties rebuilding our industry and export trade after 6 years of selfless military efforts, do not think that we will not be able to go through this gloomy strip of deprivation so same as we went through the glorious years of suffering, or that in half a century we will not be 70 or 80 million living all over the world and united in the protection of our traditions, our way of life and those universal values ​​that we profess. If the people of the British Commonwealth and the United States act together, for all that such cooperation means in the air, at sea, in science and economics, that restless, unstable balance of forces that would tempt ambition or adventurism will be eliminated. On the contrary, there will be perfect confidence in safety. If we conscientiously abide by the Charter of the United Nations and move forward with calm and sober power, without claiming to foreign lands and wealth and not seeking to establish arbitrary control over people's thoughts, if all the moral and material forces of Britain unite with yours in a fraternal union, then broad paths to the future will open up - not only for us, but for everyone, not only for our time, but also for a century ahead.
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    and do not forget the words of Stalin- It should be noted that Mr. Churchill and his friends are strikingly reminiscent of Hitler and his friends in this regard. Hitler began the cause of the outbreak of war by proclaiming racial theory, declaring that only people who speak German represent a full-fledged nation. Mr. Churchill begins the war unleashing also with racial theory, asserting that only English-speaking nations are full-fledged nations, destined to decide the fate of the whole world. German racial theory led Hitler and his friends to the conclusion that the Germans, as the only fully-fledged nation, should dominate other nations. The English racial theory leads Mr. Churchill and his friends to the conclusion that English-speaking nations, as the only full-fledged ones, must dominate the rest of the nations of the world [10] [11] [12].

    - Stalin, I.V. Answer to the correspondent of Pravda // Pravda. - 1946. - March 14.

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