KamAZ goes to the premium segment. Model KAMAZ-54901 with cabin K5

The other day, during the Comtrans-2017 exhibition in Moscow, KamAZ plant specialists presented the latest domestic development in the truck family. This is a KAMAZ-54901 model with a K5 cabin. The company itself does not hide the fact that the new model is the answer to the constant critics of the company's production line. The main direction of criticism is that Russian trucks (tractors) lag behind a variety of parameters from foreign models.

The main innovation of KAMAZ-54901 with the K5 cab is improved ergonomics, the use of modern components and assemblies, as well as a modified design.

Some characteristics of the new model: distance from floor to ceiling in the cabin - 198 cm, width - 227 cm. The car is equipped with a new automated gearbox ZF Traxon and a new type of engine Р6. The frame of the car is made of light high-strength steels, the front axle with increased load up to 9 tons and maintenance-free hub part. Economical and “quiet” hypoid bridges with a gear ratio from 2,5 to 3,07 are installed, the capacity of tanks is also increased (one tank per 700 l or 2 tank with 600 l each). On the dashboard placed 10-inch touchscreen display. Created special steps and handles for easy cleaning of the windshield.

CEO PJSC "KamAZ" Sergey Kogogin quotes the press service of the department:

We made our transition to the premium segment. This is not very easy for the company, but, nevertheless, there is no other way. A pilot batch of 54901 vehicles is scheduled for release next year. The serial production model will be launched in the 2019 year. Fully transition to the series will actively go with the 2022 of the year.

Comments

[Grandfather]

KamAZ goes to the premium segment. Model KAMAZ-54901 with cabin K5

fso! "Freds" and "benches" with "Volvo" will rest from the "lacking taxes" .... catching up ... but, catch it? ... it is necessary, of course, but our "long-range fighters" will buy while the bourgeois .... because it is more reliable ... they stagnated very much in the stall .... 20 years ago it was necessary to do this ... now, when there was no USSR country, any instrument from the "past" is a quality guarantee, they did according to GOST, in all honesty, how did TU go, everything ... the quality was gone. neither in food nor in metal. we have old people on acquaintance give incisors-scooters, to use, with a return, this is not China-Mantai, you know, the soul is singing. and the heart is crying .... they killed the country .... capitalism ....

[Grandfather]

but .... yes ... isho .., there is not much of ours there .... in giblets .... (((KAMAZ_-MASTER is also beautiful, it’s also carried ours ... well, there are all kinds of nuts .. .

[opus]

Quote: Dead Day

((KAMAZ_-MASTER is also beautiful, it’s there, we drove ... well, all sorts of nuts ...

well, not quite

Cab - KamAZ, Russia

Engine - YaMZ (18,47 L, 830 HP, 3500 Nm), Russia

Clutch - SACHS, Germany

Transmission - ZF (16 steps), Germany

Transfer Box - Steyr, Austria

Cardan Drive - Tirsan Kardan, Turkey

Bridges - Sisu, Finland

Brake System - Wabco, Belgium

Shock Absorbers - Reiger, Netherlands

Tires - Michelin (14.00 R20XZL), France

Threat. there are variations with the Engine: Liebherr D9508
BUT!
so for all the cars in this rally

[Grandfather]

Quote: opus

opus Today, 15:13 PM ↑ New
Quote: Dead Day
((KAMAZ_-MASTER is also beautiful, it’s there, we drove ... well, all sorts of nuts ...
well, not quite

and indeed ... to blame ... only the engine and our office ... well, something already ....

[Dead duck]

Quote: Dead Day

and indeed ... to blame ... only the engine and our office ... well, something already ....

Vary, old grunt
Our carriers, all the strength in them.

[Grandfather]

Quote: Deadush

Quote: Dead Day

and indeed ... to blame ... only the engine and our office ... well, something already ....

Vary, old grunt
Our carriers, all the strength in them.

Well tady kaneshno ... the economy will explode ....

[sir_obs]

Not only drove. Details are still being processed and driven by our file, however, it is better after this than other of the same parts

[wasjasibirjac]

Quote: Dead Day

and indeed ... to blame ... only the engine and our office ... well, something already ....

the engine is gone. did not fit in volume. now only libher. till.

[Grandfather]

Quote: wasjasibirjac

the engine is gone.

opus-disagree ...

[opus]

Quote: Dead Day

and indeed ... to blame ... only the engine and our office ... well, something already ...

frame
crosses
SCS
bolts, nuts and pros \ tea hardware
Actually there are many.
If you take MAN, you will see almost the same picture

[Grandfather]

Quote: opus

frame
crosses
SCS
bolts, nuts and pros \ tea hardware
Actually there are many.

I won’t argue, but half of the above is China. I’m even turned inside out with fur, and the level of localization is horrible ...

[forester]

Quote: opus

Quote: Dead Day

((KAMAZ_-MASTER is also beautiful, it’s there, we drove ... well, all sorts of nuts ...

well, not quite

Cab - KamAZ, Russia

Engine - YaMZ (18,47 L, 830 HP, 3500 Nm), Russia

Clutch - SACHS, Germany

Transmission - ZF (16 steps), Germany

Transfer Box - Steyr, Austria

Cardan Drive - Tirsan Kardan, Turkey

Bridges - Sisu, Finland

Brake System - Wabco, Belgium

Shock Absorbers - Reiger, Netherlands

Tires - Michelin (14.00 R20XZL), France

Threat. there are variations with the Engine: Liebherr D9508
BUT!
so for all the cars in this rally

you are mistaken (or rather lagged behind life) - they have already abandoned the “Tutaev” engines for several years due to restrictions on the displacement and completely switched to libherra

[opus]

Quote: forester

you are mistaken (or rather lagged behind life)

So KamAZ-Iaster itself has lagged behind life
Dakar-2015: the new heart of KAMAZ: Model - D9508 Liebherr

http://www.kamazmaster.ru/team/trucks
CAR KAMAZ 4911
http://www.kamazmaster.ru/team/trucks/avtomobil-k
amaz-4911
YaMZ-7E846.10 model
CAR KAMAZ 4326
http://www.kamazmaster.ru/team/trucks/avtomobil-k
amaz-4326-4h4
Engine
Model Until 2010, YaMZ 7E846.1007
Since 2011, TMZ-7E846.10
KAMAZ-4326 DIESEL (this is the last)
http://www.kamazmaster.ru/team/trucks/kamaz-4326-
gazodizelnyi
with four 89-liter cylinders of Polish company Stako with compressed natural gas.
Engine
Model TMZ-7E846.10

Quote: forester

due to limitations on displacement and completely

since 2018, the volume of truck engines should be reduced to 13 liters at once, so that very soon Liebherra (16,5) = will be outlawed

KAMAZ together with the same Liebherr is only developing a new 12-liter engine with six cylinders.

Caterpillar C13 engine rented on a KAMAZ-master cowl truck

modified by the Buggyra team

and capable of delivering 950 hp Its volume is quite acceptable 12,5 liters.

My suggestion is to put a gas turbine helicopter; there shouldn’t be any “restrictions” on the volume there

Quote: Pivot

KamAZ Master team showed the best performance on Tutaevsky engines

KAMAZ-master won the Dakar from 2013 to 2015 (as on a “strangled” Tutaev motor, and on "Liebherr").

[Pivot]

On the tutai they took the whole podium, this is the most reliable engine. This year there was a car on the libher, a black bonnet in general a machine for working out the technology of the future.

[Pivot]

You are far from today's realities, and even motorsport even more so. The KamAZ Master team showed the best performance on Tutaevsky engines, and if you look at the transmission and the rest there are several manufacturers in the world who create reinforced elements for all car manufacturers involved in motorsport. I declare this, as I myself take part in the trial there from our UAZs or from their landrovers there is little that is native.

[Nasrat]

People are working ... but you still need to go up and spit, as we see it !!!

[Grandfather]

Quote: Nasr

People are working ... but you still need to go up and spit, as we see it !!!

these "people" get "there" Mercedes already lives, what are you enjoying? the quality? it won’t be like that, otherwise the competitor will appear, what else will you enjoy? the "screwdriver assembly" or the cartridges cast and processed in China? are you aware of everything that is happening, or "news" on the first channel only see?

[Palch]

Yeah, let's catch up and overtake with the localization of the most technologically sophisticated components 70% .... in this situation, it is really easier to buy a finished car from the bourgeois rather than play a constructor from expensive imported parts.

[Grandfather]

Quote: Nasr

Fuck Today, 14:09 ↑
Here people are working ... but you still need to go up and spit ...

Duck work for the bourgeoisie half ... how not to spit it? it is necessary to scream ... develop balls ...

[Nasrat]

Although the technological gap will be reduced, otherwise they would have gone on carts because of 30 years of "perestroika" ...

Patriotic You are our ...

[Grandfather]

Quote: Nasr

Fuck Today, 14:16 ↑ New
Although the technological gap will be reduced, otherwise they would have gone on carts because of 30 years of "perestroika" ...
Patriotic You are our ...

well ... you then, patriot. to see ... isho ...

[Alstorm]

They said a lot of things, and even on the case. Maybe offer KamAZ a plan for the implementation of your Wishlist. How to do so, so that all at once everyone believes in the quality of the machines, that all the parts and assemblies are domestic, and that orders fall immediately in batches.
My opinion is as follows. To eliminate the backlog, you must first by any means regain confidence in the brand. And only then, adopting the experience of the bourgeoisie and improving something to do their own. And gradually bring the number of domestic quality parts and mechanisms to 90%.
You can destroy everything very quickly, but it is very difficult to restore, and even with such fierce competition.

[Nasrat]

Quote: Palch

Yeah, let's catch up and overtake with the localization of the most technologically sophisticated components 70% .... in this situation, it is really easier to buy a finished car from the bourgeois rather than play a constructor from expensive imported parts.

Where else?

[forester]

Quote: Dead Day

KamAZ goes to the premium segment. Model KAMAZ-54901 with cabin K5

fso! "Freds" and "benches" with "Volvo" will rest from the "lacking taxes" .... catching up ... but, catch it? ... it is necessary, of course, but our "long-range fighters" will buy while the bourgeois .... because it is more reliable ... they stagnated very much in the stall .... 20 years ago it was necessary to do this ... now, when there was no USSR country, any instrument from the "past" is a quality guarantee, they did according to GOST, in all honesty, how did TU go, everything ... the quality was gone. neither in food nor in metal. we have old people on acquaintance give incisors-scooters, to use, with a return, this is not China-Mantai, you know, the soul is singing. and the heart is crying .... they killed the country .... capitalism ....

as it was, KAMAZ will remain so - so do not hope (because the assembly and part of the components are ours) - although of course it is a pity - this KAMAZ 54901 is a clone of a Mercedes actros slightly modified like its predecessor, KAMAZ 5490 is a worthless clone of a Mercedes axor. I bought my friend 5490 it’s already neo-improved (there are slight improvements) - it has already grabbed the grief out of Chelny in just one drive - it’s already regretting - it would be better to use a three-year-old Volvo or a bench.

[urman]

Ah ha, one firm in the neighborhood took the Kamazovsky axor, until they all pulled it out and left. THIS IS NOT YOU A VOLVO OR A DAP.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: forester

as he was Kamaz and will remain - so do not expect

He is not KamAZ, but KAMAZ!

[210ox]

Will we continue to sit and whine? Or will we still make efforts? Even if it’s capitalist, since it happened. Ah! "Age" doesn’t allow you! Or principles?

Quote: Dead Day

KamAZ goes to the premium segment. Model KAMAZ-54901 with cabin K5

fso! "Freds" and "benches" with "Volvo" will rest from the "lacking taxes" .... catching up ... but, catch it? ... it is necessary, of course, but our "long-range fighters" will buy while the bourgeois .... because it is more reliable ... they stagnated very much in the stall .... 20 years ago it was necessary to do this ... now, when there was no USSR country, any instrument from the "past" is a quality guarantee, they did according to GOST, in all honesty, how did TU go, everything ... the quality was gone. neither in food nor in metal. we have old people on acquaintance give incisors-scooters, to use, with a return, this is not China-Mantai, you know, the soul is singing. and the heart is crying .... they killed the country .... capitalism ....

[NEXUS]

Quote: Dead Day

catching up ... but, catch it?

Do you know that repeated victories in Dakkar mean nothing? It’s clear that the trucks are completely different at the rally, but rivals aren’t producing cars either. I'm talking about technology.

[forester]

Quote: NEXUS

Quote: Dead Day

catching up ... but, catch it?

Do you know that repeated victories in Dakkar mean nothing? It’s clear that the trucks are completely different at the rally, but rivals aren’t producing cars either. I'm talking about technology.

what technologies are there - there is a current cabin and our nameplate, victories are entirely merit and the highest professionalism of pilots - it’s not for nothing that Chagin is called the DESERT KING

[Grandfather]

Quote: NEXUS

And multiple victories in Dakkara tell you nothing?

They say ... you’re kind of an adequate guy, don’t make the buttons push in vain ... what’s ours there ...? do not strain your brain .... a lot. Andryukha, you’re a normal person, you don’t need to pull a bad aura ...

[win9090]

But nothing that the entire power structure from Mercedes, the engine from the libher, and from the Kamaz badges, I won’t be surprised if made in China.
Even if everything is localized, then the technology of the decaying west that is coming

[alekc73]

The problem of KAMAZ is quality. The price does not correspond to quality. Western fennel is not necessary. Make normal quality for Russian roads and there will be no sales problems for years to come.

[Grandfather]

Quote: alekc73

The problem of KAMAZ is quality. The price does not correspond to quality.

applicable to all post-Soviet. take cars-laughter .... and prices are tears ...

[Roma 1977]

Normal quality is too expensive. It used to be machines made by engineers, but now they are made by marketers. That is, the task now is not to make an unbreakable / maintainable vehicle, but to make a fast-selling and "beautiful" one. So the costs are less.

[Roman 11]

The cabin is too huge, more iron - an unequal price for the design ..... mind Russia can not understand. We must compete and drive out markets with simplicity, economy, and most importantly QUALITY, greater development of resources in comparison with others.

And here is the luxury of design and the increase in the cost of the product. To whom and where do we want to impose rivalry? In the USA or Japan? In my opinion they don’t wait for us there
Our goal is the same as they used to say - 3 countries: Iran, Iraq, Egypt, Balkans, CIS, partly Latin America. And here there is a rise in price, and it turns out that developed countries have not been forced to compete, and for ordinary customers, rise in price, which will weaken the position and squeeze out of their markets.

It would be better if they let the money into the release of better engines and other mods to reduce costs.

[forester]

Quote: Novel 11

The cabin is too huge

The usual "Aktrosovskaya" (megaspace) with a flat floor and modified cabin lining

[Roman 11]

The main area of ​​criticism is that Russian trucks (tractors) are lagging behind foreign models in a number of parameters.
Probably in quality, and not some dimensions such as load capacity.

[uskrabut]

not only in quality. When you drive along the highway, the difference is immediately visible - MAN, DAF and other Mercedes-Benz and Volvo cars cannot be caught up with, and Kamazs are choked and crawl on lowered. Weak engines

[Retvizan 8]

Handsome man! I sincerely wait for such "KAMAZ" on our roads.

[tomket]

Quote: Retvizan 8

Handsome man! Sincerely waiting for such "KAMAZ" on our roads

Amendment, handsome with a cab from Actrosa. It will now apparently be called KamAtros. It looks like surrender to a Mercedes.

[Romanenko]

Good exhibition Comtrans, visited it, and then stopped going there. Everything is simple - it’s nice to admire the concepts, but when you later see what you did as a result, it becomes sad. Yes, and the cabin seems to be the same and it looks similar from the outside, only, as they say - both the pipe is lower and the smoke is thinner. It suddenly turns out that the engine on the serial is not the same, then the finishing materials in the production environment have become “more accessible” ... and the most annoying are the plugs in the places of keys, buttons and devices, which in the concept carried some functions not included in the serial car. I prefer now to look at serial production, it's easier and not nervous.

[Gardamir]

Since the rulers of Russia are trying to accustom us to a foreign language and concepts, we have to figure it out ourselves. so

Premium segment (premium segment) - the market price segment of expensive goods and services aimed at people with fairly high incomes.

What's this? Previously, bought a Bentley and an Aston Villa, but now the cool people will go to KAMAZ?

[Bronevick]

To be honest, it reminds some Chinese Dongfeng or FAW.

[Ugolek]

fso! "Freds" and "benches" with "Volvo" will rest from the "lacking taxes" .... catching up ... but, catch it? ... it is necessary, of course, but our "long-range fighters" will buy while the bourgeois .... because it is more reliable ... they stagnated very much in the stall .... 20 years ago it was necessary to do this ... now, when there was no USSR country, any instrument from the "past" is a quality guarantee, they did according to GOST, in all honesty, how did TU go, everything ... the quality was gone. neither in food nor in metal. we have old people on acquaintance give incisors-scooters, to use, with a return, this is not China-Mantai, you know, the soul is singing. and the heart is crying .... they killed the country .... capitalism ....

And now, lie down and die? They do it and it’s not bad.
"KAMAZ is the largest manufacturer of trucks and diesel engines in Russia. Four joint ventures have been established with the participation of leading foreign manufacturers of auto components: ZF KAMA (gearboxes), Cummins KAMA (engines), Knorr-Bremse KAMA (brake systems ), "Federal Mogul Naberezhnye Chelny" (parts of the cylinder-piston group). KAMAZ has assembly plants in Vietnam, Kazakhstan, Pakistan, India. Trucks and diesel engines manufactured by KAMAZ are operated in more than 85 countries of the CIS, Asia, Africa, Europe and Latin America . "

So no need to bother. It's a good news.

[Grandfather]

Quote: Ugolek

And now, lie down and die? They do it and it’s not bad.

do not care what they do bad ...

[milling machine]

Quote: wasjasibirjac

Quote: Dead Day

and indeed ... to blame ... only the engine and our office ... well, something already ....

the engine is gone. did not fit in volume. now only libher. till.

Rally, the "Silk Road" passed through our city, and yes, there are "libkhers" on all pockets. I personally asked the mechanic Kamaz.

[Grandfather]

Quote: frezer

on all pockets "libkhera" stand. I personally asked the mechanic Kamaz.

prove it to the "Patriots" ... rubber, also go not "kama"?

[win9090]

So the Kamazavian dvigun is short-stroke and it’s already very expensive and stressful to come up with something to modernize it, all this is a dead end, therefore the libher

[BABA SHURA]

2000's western obeshki

[urman]

If you put a gilded saddle on a donkey, he will not become a pacer.
As there was a KAMAZ, a stool with a wheel so it will remain with them.
Ask any long-range fellow if he agrees to transfer from Volvo and other mans to Kamaz.
At least he will turn the temple finger in your direction.

[anjey]

Fast as a bird, powerful as a maz, Dakkarov winner Russian KAMAZ!

[Ugolek]

do not care what they do bad ...

This is not an argument ... this is balabolstvo. Exploited a new model? Western cars may be better, but not without flaws either. But that’s okay, I don’t care that KAMAZ is PRODUCTION, that a large number of people work there. Export speaks for itself, 85 countries is not a joke. It’s a simple matter to turn the bread-and-butter baker, figley - get on MAN to win DAKAR ...

[Ugolek]

YES and do not care what is on the rally exhibit. The main thing that wins .KAMAZ. And you don’t need to mix the sports and cargo KAMA’s, this only emphasizes the trolls ’insanity. The concern earns, provides jobs, pays taxes. Figley vyzhivatsya - educate your son, teach, he will have the Light and take the concern out of nonexistence - the cabin will hurt itself, the units are the most reliable and correct, in general you will open the hood, and there "there is a Russian spirit, it smells of Rus" ...

[urman]

Quote: Ugolek

sit on MAN win the DAKAR ...

That's just Kamaz winning Dakar can not make a normal serial, main tractor.
Everything that runs along the highway to the long-distance (KAMAZ) is called death to the driver.
But Mana run and run and the drivers live comfortably in them.
And what does Dakar have to do with it, the winning KAMAZ trucks are manually assembled on the knee.
That's when they manage to launch such a quality in a series ....
So far, they are letting out the gates, stools on wheels of disgusting assembly

[Snakebyte]

The article forgot to mention one small thing.
These cabins for KamAZ (and for itself too) will be assembled by Daimler, which is now building a plant for these cabins.

[not main]

Quote: opus

Cardan Drive - Tirsan Kardan, Turkey

I don’t know how on Kamaz, but on the Gazelle the gimbal from the Turks is full of crap ... mo! And it costs more than two times more than the "native"!

[MadCat]

review of "domestic development".

[arnulla]

Mersovskoy cabin give out for KAMAZ ..)))

[Ugolek]

That's just Kamaz winning Dakar can not make a normal serial, main tractor.

It's okay, at the construction sites they load loads and everything is fine. The country does not live alone.