In the United States intend to install on the F-16 and F / A-18 combat drones

According to the information of the Internet portal Warspotnetwork log Popular Mechanics announces the intention to give unmanned auxiliary "bodyguards" to American fighters. The relevant competition called Flying Missile Rail was announced by the Defense Advanced Defense Projects Agency (DARPA) of the US military.

Within the framework of this program, it is planned to develop flying carriers of air-to-air missiles. They will start in the air with F-16 aircraft and F / A-18, which will be pre-installed. Due to this, the Pentagon intends to provide the obsolete models with additional survivability. For example, if a pilot detects a superior enemy fighter, he will be able to launch a UAV armed with missiles and retreat to a safe distance.

In accordance with the requirements, the duration of a UAV flight of this type should reach at least 20 minutes, speed - about 1100 km / h, and two missiles should represent the armament.

However, the main task in the implementation of the program is not the development of a design drone, and the creation of mobile assembly lines with high productivity. It is expected that their production will be able to deploy in the field thanks to mobile assembly lines that fit into several shipping containers. This will allow the combat unit to independently collect dozens of the indicated drones.

Currently, the Flying Missile Rail program is in concept stage. If, however, the task is implemented, the fleet of obsolete US fighters will be able to get a new breath.

Comments

[Titsen]

Another massive throw to escalate the arms race?

[oldseaman1957]

Quote: Titsen

Another info-throw to escalate the arms race?

- What is there. They just decided to rejuvenate their firewood. The Yankees also decided to deal with asymmetry. And our attention needs to be paid. The idea is not stupid.

[Maz]

Cartoons, can you immediately watch a movie about transformers? Hollywood works!

[aszzz888]

For example, if a superior enemy fighter is discovered by a pilot, he will be able to launch a drone armed with missiles, and retire to a safe distance.

... for merikatos, the main thing is to "retire" in time ... only with tribes and can fight ...

[just exp]

when CUDA will be adopted, then it will be with us, too, since these missile defense systems will be able to be used for missiles and our military equipment.

[vadsonen]

... for merikatos, the main thing is to "retire" on time l ... only with tribes and can fight ...

What does the tribe have to do with it? It is written - when meeting with a stronger opponent.
And according to your logic, there are those who, in a deliberately losing situation, are eager for battle. This, of course, is very clever.

[Herculesic]

Why not put dynamic protection on planes or a 300mm howitzer? ? The USA doesn’t already know what and where to slap? ? Then let the tanks put the containers to launch mbr! !!

[Same lech]

In fact, their idea is the same air-to-air rocket, it just flies longer.

[Herculesic]

That is, how would the meaning of a simple extension of the range of used ammunition for the aircraft? ???

[newcomer]

but it’s not clear where they want to fly the drone on the air? if instead of your own arsenal, what's the point? _ just a carrier of the drone? on top of the hull, I don’t know if it will affect the handling of the aircraft? simply put, it will interfere with the airflow per keel.

[just exp]

with full load, they rarely fly, so it will hang instead of some regular ammunition.

[newcomer]

so I’m saying, but what's the point? it’s better to fly with a full load_ more missiles, more guarantee the enemy’s defeat. drones themselves do not fly badly. just to extend the life of 16mu? is super hyperuper 35 replacing?

[voyaka uh]

It seems, but not quite. Instead of hanging two BB missiles under the plane
long range (and such missiles are very expensive), drones are suspended
with two short-range missiles each. And run into a "dangerous place."
The drone is hardly noticeable for enemy fighters and can "sneak up"
unnoticed. The result is cheap conveyor munitions
short-range action as long-range.

[corporal]

Quote: voyaka uh

Instead of hanging two BB missiles under the plane
long range (and such missiles are very expensive

Do you think the drone will be cheap?
After all, the drone will need to independently find, identify and hit the target, and this will turn out to be a full-fledged strike UAV. And while a one-time ..

IMHO, the idea is good, but it is still on the verge of fantasy.

[voyaka uh]

Learned how to make drones on 3-D printers. Their
will be installed directly at air bases. Only complicated
components will be sent from manufacturers.
This is now the trend: the manufacture of ammunition "at the forefront."
Cases, wings, ... etc. Their printers make it easy and accurate.

[newcomer]

Yes, but drones themselves are not bad at flying on their own. and again the weight. apparently I’m just the Yankees doing bad things with long-range missiles, since the carrier “brings closer” their neighbors. Again, control: autonomous, or a pilot, or an operator from the ground. Yes, and it seems to me that while the thrown drone is oriented, the escaped f runs the risk of getting a long-range missile after him, and the drone turns out of the gun.

[voyaka uh]

"apparently I’m just the Yankees doing bad things with long-range missiles" ////

The Americans are not sure about the effectiveness of long-range explosive missiles.
Launched from 100 km into the enemy’s fighter, it’s not the fact that it’s generally
will detect. The aim is complicated. And the VV rocket is not Grad. She does not fly on ballistics, her engine should work all the time. Expensive product.

Long-range explosive missiles NEVER used
in a real fight. Zero combat experience.
The maximum distance with which one plane hit another
the missile was 20 km in the 1982 Israeli-Syrian war.
F-16 was fired "blindly" with external fire from an AWACS or F-15 aircraft

[mvg]

Maybe there’s no combat experience, but the real launches of the Phoenixes were very much. And for group targets as well. Up to 5 hits right from the F-14.
But you're right, the AIM 120D range of 120 km is enough. 300-400 km - it is out of the ordinary. Even for shooting at patrol and AWACS.

[cormorant]

First, the "superior enemy fighter" Mig-21 appears, this bodyguard is dropped from fear. The next stage, achieving the goal that is retreating ...

[anjey]

and it’s not easier for the Yankees to transfer the F16 and F-18 planes themselves to unmanned mode, and put the pilots somewhere in Delaware for monitors and joysticks, even if they play war skirts in their womens skirts ...

[anjey]

contactless war will be ...

[mitrich]

In my opinion, an interesting thought. In fact, it can give additional functions to existing vehicles and increase their combat potential.
Well, we need to pour pepper under the tail, we will have to react ...

[Vincent]

America is strong, karoch ... Armed forces of all countries - disarm! An incredible ef35 and merciless raptor with hordes of drones will unmask any rebellious mode, even though nuclear without nuclear, without registration and SMS. Everything to the bunker!

[A. Privalov]

Ha, this is no longer just a "concept", it is almost a finished technical task! Barraciers of every kind have been known for a long time. However, they were still slow today: 60-200 km / h. Actually, they were not required otherwise. Held in the air from one hour to six, range from 20 km to 1000. Plus, a number of them were very quiet. Now, to the detriment of silence and long distances, speed and ease of manufacture will be required. I think that leading companies in the industry will wish to participate in such a competition. Although not many have a reserve. The main task, it is also the problem - the engine. Apparently, the engine will be two - one, "slow" for loitering, and the second, "fast" - when attacking. Such a kind of "delayed - forgotten" delayed in time. Very interesting!

[corporal]

Welcome

Quote: A. Privalov

Such a kind of "delayed - forgotten" delayed in time.

Expensive.
Here, then, the idea of ​​returning barrageers was considered: "I shot, I forgot, if the target was not found, the ammunition platform returns to the carrier itself to refuel and get the next mission."
This concept looks more attractive.

[A. Privalov]

Quote: Corporal

Welcome

Quote: A. Privalov

Such a kind of "delayed - forgotten" delayed in time.

Expensive.
Here, then, the idea of ​​returning barrageers was considered: "I shot, I forgot, if the target was not found, the ammunition platform returns to the carrier itself to refuel and get the next mission."
This concept looks more attractive.

Not cheap. However, for 200 000, can a tank be spit on a tank? Can. So, by plane for 500 000 - just right. Dumping such a bauble, immediately with target designation. Modern missiles visually recognize objects for destruction in a wide range, incl. by their appearance, including body kit, coloring, etc. And most of the information about the appearance of the enemy's planes is already in the device’s memory, but it can be corrected before launch. Primastyrit such a "eye", say, from the "Python" -5 to a new drone, I think it will not be a problem. Accordingly, the "not found goal" is no longer a question. Mortality and more simple devices already reaches 0,97, so here, the manufacturers will adjust to fit the 0,99, so be sure.

[Topotun]

Well, yes, and hang two more drones on the drone. And we get a collective mind that decides why they should fight and kill ...

[Music]

Pre-missile missiles? At one time in the USSR there was an idea - to carry fighters with a large aircraft. Is the new well forgotten?