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Russia as an aggressor: who is next for conquest?

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Breathtakingly many cries and critics of Russia as a world aggressor. Some people go straight into hysteria about the fact that tomorrow (as a last resort the day after tomorrow) will be occupied by Russian troops rushing across the border.




Strange, but literally about ten years ago there was nothing of the kind. Howl began when? It’s right when Putin and all of Russia “burned” with him in the Crimea. When it suddenly became clear that we have a MTR. Then, just as suddenly, it turned out that there tank troops, artillery and, finally, VKS. But this is another история. Syrian

If you look at what we are imputed to, then we get two very remarkable lists.

First: Kuriles, Crimea, Donbass.

Everything is very, very controversial, but in the West nobody cares.

Second. This is the most interesting. Who shouts the most about a possible war / occupation?

Ukraine, Lithuania, Latvia. Plus, some kind of aggravation in Belarus on the topic of the fact that under the guise of exercises, Russia can arrange an annexation. And yes, tarahteniye in Georgia about the "08.08.08".

And let's look a little more globally, from a historical point of view. In one of the articles I already wrote about the territories that had been slaughtered by the USSR, which, to my surprise, caused malice from the Bulgarians. Well, now, indeed, God is with them, with the territories (not really, of course), we will look at more weighty things. On independence and statehood.

If we take for granted that Russia is an eternal aggressor, then very surprising things turn out.

Here is another list, so as to refresh your memory. I may not be entirely accurate in terms of chronological order, but this will be clear at the end.

So:

Finland.
Twice received from Russia. Before 1809, it was just a part of Sweden, if in fact it did not become a state, it gained autonomy and Finnish as a state language. Well, absolutely independence came in 1918.

Poland.
I restored my independence with the help of Russia twice, in the same year 1918 and 1944. It is worth noting that the very partition of Poland in the 1939 year is temporary. For after the war, the Poles received 2 / 3 East Prussia, the city of Gdansk (Danzig, which was not Polish by any means). Well, the little things on the borders with the USSR.

Bulgaria.
As an independent state was revived as a result of the victory of Russia in the Russian-Turkish war of 1877-1878. Let not in the whole territory, however. Despite the fact that in two world wars, Bulgaria participated in the anti-Russian coalitions, there was no repression.

Romania.
By the way, she was also born as a result of the Russian-Turkish wars, and became sovereign in 1878, to which Russia, too, did not weakly attach itself, exchanging Bessarabia for Northern Dobrudja with Constanze.

Serbia.
Born all in the same year 1878, as a result of the fact that the appetites of Turkey were strongly moderate by the Russian soldier.

Armenia.
Was in the sphere of interests of Iran and Turkey, and most likely would have died out in the end everything. But the Russians came, hung the Turks, intimidated the rest, and in 1828, they created the Armenian region. Next was the Armenian SSR and since 1991, an independent Armenia.

Azerbaijan.
As a state, it took shape for the first time only in 1918, as part of the USSR. Before that, there were Azerbaijanis, but Azerbaijan was not. Fact. Territories were seized by all and sundry, including Russia after two wars (1813 and 1828) tore a fair amount away from the Persian Khanate.

Georgia.
1774 year, when Russia intervened in the affairs of the Georgians, can be considered the starting point. Undoubtedly, the Georgians showed great teeth in the wars of independence with the Persians, but the prospect was sad. If it were not for the brink of friendly bayonets. And so everything is the same: 1918 and 1991.

Turkmenistan, Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan, Mongolia and Moldova they did not have statehood at all and formed it already as part of the USSR.

And, it is worth emphasizing that there are no screamers on the topic of Russia's hostility in this five, quite the contrary. The exception is Moldova, well, it is already up to them to decide whether to go to Romania or to Russia to stay closer.

Here you can add on Greece, which was actually fought off by the Turks in 1821, Italy, cleared of the French (1799-1800), and with Italy and Poland and Germany, freed from the Germans Austria и Czechoslovakia (1945) Here, in fact, saved from defeat Egypt along with other Arab countries. If someone is sure that the Arabs got out, then I have no doubt that Israel would have crushed them, no.

Germany.
Here it is. The fact that Germany generally remained on the map, even if in the form of two republics, is a separate merit of the USSR in the person of Stalin and Molotov. For the allies were not very eager to save Germany as an independent country. Maximum - protectorate. Well, in the unification of Germany in 1990, too, as if the merit of the USSR.

Now "for a snack" today's flashy.

Latvia.
Until 1918, it never had its own state.

Estonia.
Until 1918, it never had its own state.

Lithuania.
It is more interesting here, if only because they shout the loudest. The state of Lithuania was in the form of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, but ended in 1569 with the union with Poland in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Then there was a decline, and in the 1772, 1793 and 1795 years, Rzeczpospolita was successfully divided between Russia, Prussia and Austria.

Further, Lithuania remained alternately in Russia, then in Germany (from 1915 to 1918), then the Lithuanian Soviet Republic (December 1918 - January 1919), then the Lithuanian-Belarusian SSR (January 1919 - July 1920). From 1922, Middle Lithuania became Polish territory.

Finally, the Lithuanian SSR was formed in 1940 year. In addition to the German Memel / Klaipeda and Vilnius / Vilna, Lithuania was killed by another part of the territory of Belarus. Well, in 1991, Lithuania became an independent state.

Ukraine.
The common history says that the first Ukrainian state in this territory was the Ukrainian SSR in 1919. Before that, after the abolition of the Hetmanate of Catherine II (1764 year) and the Zaporizhzhya Sich (1775 year), it was the land of Russia.

Belarus.
Belarusians also left from one state to another as a province. And it can also be said that Belarus gained its statehood in the 1920 year, with the final creation of the BSSR.

An interesting picture is obtained and funny at the same time. Yes, by and large Russia / USSR has put its hands on the creation of many states. Angola, Mozambique, Cuba, Algeria, Vietnam, the list is quite long.

We have repeatedly said that these "occupation" were strange. And they didn’t carry with them destruction, as in the performance of the same Germans, but creation.

So why so many screams from the "former"? Why are they so afraid of this very occupation and annexation?

Apparently, the fact is that in those countries this occupation is simply desirable. We exclude Belarus, it’s hard there, but not so much as to dream of Russia’s occupation. Therefore, individual cries that "we will be captured and enslaved tomorrow" - this is so ... verification.

But the rest ...

One gets the confidence that in the Baltic States really want Russia to occupy them. Well, rushing out from under the pots on their heads in Ukraine is also somewhat similar in meaning.

The key word here is Crimea.

Yes, strangely it sounds. This occupied and annexed Crimea, where money flowed, materials and human resources flowed.

And the roads were drawn, and the problems began to be solved, and created by those who, in principle, should not create them. This is me about water, electricity ... Energy bridge, just a bridge ... You can talk about the pros for a long time. Well, plus - an opportunity to earn extra money on it.

So all these “concerns” and “fears” of occupation look somehow more and more like a plaintive appeal: “Well, occupy us, finally!” They give less and less money ... for independence.

And so - it would be good, right? The revived ports and terminals of the Baltic states, a sudden returning market for these ... smoked fish, tourists, again ... Remains demanded (and some quite real) remains of the military-industrial complex of Ukraine ...

Maybe, really, they all want us to “occupy them like the Crimea”? Maybe our “aggression” is the path to development?

Yes, historically the results of the “aggressions” of Russia / USSR: half of Europe and part of Asia received statehood and, moreover, such a good impetus in development.

The whole history of Russia suggests that it helped in every way the creation of a multipolar world in any era. And very often, unfortunately, at the same time sacrificed their own interests as the state, and its population. This is also a fact that you will not dismiss.

And it would be quite possible to create an empire that the British would envy. But, alas, the Russian approach is somewhat different.

So there is not even "in line", but rather "do not wait."

Also, by the way, historically true.
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  1. inkass_98
    inkass_98 11 September 2017 06: 55
    +19
    Slightly correct: Bukhara, Kokand, Khiva, Samarkand and other "kingdoms" completely had their own statehood and even were part of the Empire on rights similar to Poland and Finland. They only heard about the "white king" there, and even then not all, on the spot issues were decided by local khans.
    1. CONTROL
      CONTROL 11 September 2017 08: 00
      +17
      Quote: inkass_98
      Slightly correct: Bukhara, Kokand, Khiva, Samarkand and other "kingdoms" had their own statehood

      ... in ancient "khan" times! and the borders of these "states" changed even during the lifetime of one "lord" several times ...
      And with the "entry" into the Empire, this business more or less settled down! And the people - "dekhkan" - mercilessly stopped the local minions of the khans, emirs, shahs and other "Nazguls" ...
    2. Balferov
      Balferov 11 September 2017 19: 18
      0
      Quote: inkass_98
      on-site issues were resolved by local khans.

      local bandits
      1. NG inform
        NG inform 12 September 2017 01: 41
        +3
        Any power is the best organized bandits. If they manage to reliably hold power in the region, then they begin to invest in its development.
        1. gladcu2
          gladcu2 12 September 2017 21: 00
          +2
          NG

          You have not discovered America. Yes, the authorities are the "bandits" who won in the competition.
          1. NG inform
            NG inform 10 May 2018 14: 07
            -1
            When formulating any theory, it is most interesting to consider cases that experience it the most, or are knocked out of it.
            Hence the question about Canada, please describe who and how controls it?
    3. Akuzenka
      Akuzenka 14 September 2017 14: 38
      +1
      And Mongolia, as part of the USSR, has never been. Helped them, helped, if memory serves, in 1919.
  2. Kenxnumx
    Kenxnumx 11 September 2017 07: 27
    +5
    Fink was chopped off by Sweden. Poles had independence. In general, we are talking about the affairs of past centuries is strange. We would have to figure it out.
    1. stas
      stas 11 September 2017 19: 31
      +9
      Unfortunately, our tsarist government is pursuing an aggressive policy towards its people.
      When the tsar sees the people as an ally, and not just a taxpayer and voter, on whom nothing in the elections depends.
      According to the Constitution of Russia, we are a social state, not a market capitalist flea market, through the impoverishment of which the tsar solves internal problems without offending his oligarchs.
    2. CT-55_11-9009
      CT-55_11-9009 13 September 2017 14: 53
      +4
      Yes, Finland was part of Sweden. Only she was in Sweden EVEN AUTONOMY was not! And after the actions of Russia it became a state.
      The Poles had independence, only lost, and more than once. Who was rebuilding? Well, certainly not the Poles.
      Quote: Ken71
      In general, we are talking about the affairs of past centuries is strange.

      But this is not generally said in Russian. What, Google Translator pledged, daughter of an Alabama officer?
  3. ibirus
    ibirus 11 September 2017 07: 30
    +22
    The article is correct. The main thing in interstate relations is not to forget about self-esteem and benefit.
    1. privateer2000
      privateer2000 11 September 2017 19: 42
      +2
      absolutely correctly noticed.
  4. CONTROL
    CONTROL 11 September 2017 07: 54
    +24
    from relatives - three families in the Baltic republics (one in each of ...)
    The general opinion of the population: under the Union they lived better, and there was more notorious "freedom"!
    And when visiting Russia, locals don’t believe too much in “occupation” - well, yes, things are going and done in Russia, but not so well as to invest in “occupation” ... Otherwise, they’ll “occupy” the same Lithuania, you look, and others will want ... but Russia may not be enough for all! pockets are not bottomless ...
    1. Mikhail Zubkov
      Mikhail Zubkov 11 September 2017 20: 48
      0
      The main outcome indicator is “people’s protection” within the borders of both the Republic of Ingushetia and the USSR or the Russian (Soviet) sphere of influence - Bulgaria, Serbia, Mongolia ... This would have to be proved with numbers.
    2. von_Tilsit
      von_Tilsit 12 September 2017 11: 59
      +2
      The trouble is that the brains of a generation born in the Baltic states after the collapse of the Union are washed by European values ​​literally from birth. My cousin’s wife in Klaipeda has normal girls, seemingly quite sane. And how the conversation went about all this parsley - “we won’t go to Russia even if your salaries are higher than in the European Union”! I remember, I was slightly alarmed by such a turn, and then it came to our attention — we for them were a herd of unwashed smelly savages. And this image has been diligently cultivated for centuries. And very successfully))
      1. eklmn
        eklmn 13 September 2017 02: 50
        0
        “... and then it came to pass - we are for them a herd of unwashed smelly savages. And this image has been diligently cultivated for centuries. ”
           He made a completely wrong conclusion - hatred rumors about the Balts in all Russian media, and it began after the Crimea. They did not agree with the voluntary referendum and spoke loudly about it - and your media went wild.
          Have you forgotten festivals in Jurmala? Go to youtube and remember.
        And the children of your relatives know about this hatred, so their answer was quite sane.
        1. CT-55_11-9009
          CT-55_11-9009 13 September 2017 15: 05
          +2
          Quote: eklmn
          He made a completely wrong conclusion - hatred rumors about the Balts in all Russian media, and it began after the Crimea. They did not agree with the voluntary referendum and spoke loudly about it - and your media went wild.

          Oh yo ... Yes, this is anger from you. IM nobody suggested joining Russia. And their media about Russia for 10 years (if not from secession from the USSR, by the way, illegal) they do not write good things about Russia. so wishful thinking.
          Quote: eklmn
          And the children of your relatives know about this hatred, so their answer was quite sane.

          Hatred? Well, it’s you who are bent. Rather, banter. And with an adequate person living in the Baltic States, they communicate and manage normally. Another thing that is inadequate in relation to Russia there is a dime a dozen.
    3. OPOEL
      OPOEL 14 September 2017 21: 32
      0
      Bullshit, in the same Estonia, 1 citizen has 5 times more money than a Russian ... By all indicators (min.zp, average zp), the Baltic countries are on an equal footing or overtaking Russia ...
      1. Pissarro
        Pissarro 15 September 2017 16: 06
        +3
        write already 50 times more, which is trifling. Where can Russia catch up with the Baltic Tigers. The main thing is to believe it yourself. And correct the pan wassat
  5. mister-red
    mister-red 11 September 2017 09: 29
    +2
    Correct - The Principality of Moldova has existed since the mid-XNUMXth century
    1. Weyland
      Weyland 11 September 2017 19: 24
      +5
      Quote: mister-red
      since the mid-XNUMXth century

      And before the beginning of the XVI (after the death of Stefan cel Mare, independence ended ...)
    2. anatoly57
      anatoly57 11 September 2017 19: 44
      +1
      As a vassal of the High Port (Ottoman Empire)
    3. Mikhail Zubkov
      Mikhail Zubkov 11 September 2017 23: 31
      0
      The Russian kingdom in Galicia also appeared in those centuries.
      Quote: mister-red
      Correct - The Principality of Moldova has existed since the mid-XNUMXth century
  6. antivirus
    antivirus 11 September 2017 10: 28
    +3
    but in the us your list of such "good deeds" is?
  7. Lena Petrova
    Lena Petrova 11 September 2017 12: 03
    +7
    Quote: antivirus
    but in the us your list of such "good deeds" is?

    And then! But with Syria it just didn’t work out, but with S. Korea, and before that everything went well. :))
    1. Sagan_bator
      Sagan_bator 11 September 2017 15: 33
      +2
      Well, not everything is good, if only mention Cuba)
      1. shvn
        shvn 11 September 2017 19: 49
        0
        and also Vietnam
  8. andrewkor
    andrewkor 11 September 2017 12: 26
    +1
    The artist Konstantin Vasiliev has a beautiful picture similar to the one on the screen saver, go to his museum, be surprised! Or maybe this is it?
  9. Anton Valerevich
    Anton Valerevich 11 September 2017 14: 19
    +2
    Anglo-Saxons say to the world: "Fear me!"
    Russia tells the world: "Fear fear!"
    1. privateer2000
      privateer2000 11 September 2017 19: 45
      0
      the Baltic states and Ukraine say: "Fear Russia!" ...))). COP 2000
    2. privateer2000
      privateer2000 11 September 2017 19: 47
      0
      Poland says: "Fear the Russian Varangians!"
  10. Music
    Music 11 September 2017 15: 13
    +2
    It’s better not to go to friends as enemies. Even in my beloved RB, I would not invest money. About three yards at the end of the 13th, I wrote that it was in the stove.
  11. Setrac
    Setrac 11 September 2017 16: 25
    +4
    The Grand Duchy of Lithuania is present-day Belarus, and not Lithuania at all.
    1. anatoly57
      anatoly57 11 September 2017 19: 46
      +2
      Present-day Lithuania is the region of емemaitija, Zhmud as part of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania.
      1. Roma 1977
        Roma 1977 14 September 2017 10: 05
        0
        Deep delusion. Zemaitija is just one of the regions of Lithuania, and in the narrow sense Lithuania was called the Vilnius and Trok voivodships.
    2. Roma 1977
      Roma 1977 14 September 2017 10: 02
      +1
      The Grand Duchy of Lithuania is Lithuania with the territories of Belarus and Ukraine subordinate to it, and during the period of the largest territorial growth, also with Moldova, Smolensk, Bryansk and vassal Novgorod and Pskov. It was ruled exclusively by ethnic Lithuanians, and later also by Poles.
      1. vvvjak
        vvvjak 14 September 2017 12: 43
        +1
        ON is not Lithuania. ON is a type of USSR in those days, created to protect territories from attack by the Teutonic Order. And Vytaut, Jagiello, etc. ruled. as princes capable of organizing both the defense of territories and the seizure of a new one. Calling them Lithuanians or Belarusians or Russians (in the current sense) is generally not very correct.
        1. Roma 1977
          Roma 1977 14 September 2017 13: 07
          +1
          The full name of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania is: “The Vklitoe Princedom of Lithuania, Russian and Zhemoytskoe”, moreover, by Lithuania there were meant precisely the Vilnius and Trok voivodships, which are now part of modern Lithuania. The territories of Belarus and Ukraine were called "Lithuanian Rus". All Grand Dukes of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania were Lithuanians, and the entire supreme deliberative body of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania “Pana-rada” consisted exclusively of Lithuanians, including the head of Zhemojt and Lithuanian (naturally Catholic) bishops. Russians (that is, Ukrainians and Belarusians in the current sense) were not taken there in principle.
          1. Dmitry Aleksandrovich
            Dmitry Aleksandrovich 14 September 2017 13: 59
            +1
            Quote: Roma-1977
            . All Grand Dukes of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania were Lithuanians, and the entire supreme deliberative body of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania “Pana-rada” consisted exclusively of Lithuanians, including the head of Zhemojt and Lithuanian (naturally Catholic) bishops. Russians (that is, Ukrainians and Belarusians in the current sense) were not taken there in principle.

            Rave. The nationality of the grand dukes is not taken into account at all, it is mixed with blood ... and Russians too. A ban on public office for non-Catholics existed in the Kingdom of Poland, and not in the Grand Duchy of Lithuania. The concept of "nationality" then did not exist at all; there was citizenship and religion. Well, for example, Khodkevich, Grigory Alexandrovich, the Great Lithuanian Hetman. You can still recall the Vishnevetsky, Glinsky and other Orthodox magnates ON.
            1. Roma 1977
              Roma 1977 14 September 2017 14: 28
              0
              But only in the pan-glad Orthodox magnates (and Orthodox bishops) were not included. The only exception was Konstantin Ostrozhsky, and even then because of the personal patronage of the king and the indignation of the permanent members of the Pana-Rada. From the time of the Union of Gorodel, the Orthodox majority of the GDL were second-class people. And after the Union of Lublin - and the third grade.
              1. Dmitry Aleksandrovich
                Dmitry Aleksandrovich 15 September 2017 08: 42
                +2
                The sovereignty of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania ended precisely after the Union of Gorodel. And after the Union of Lublin, the GDL ceased to exist as a state, and further was only an administrative unit of the Rzeczpospolita. And by the way, the aforementioned Khodkevich, Grigory Aleksandrovich, as the Great Lithuanian hetman was a member of the Pans-Rada, refused his posts in protest against the Union of Lublin. Well, the control in the head: in what language did ALL state acts of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania were recorded before the Union of Lublin and even some time after? Hint, not in Lithuanian.
                In general, talking about the succession of modern Lithuania from the GD is just as incorrect as about the Russians and Etruscans, Bulgarians and Bulgars, or let's say about the continuity of Germany in relation to the Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation
                1. Roma 1977
                  Roma 1977 15 September 2017 09: 40
                  +1
                  We all know from school that the first Statute of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania of 1529 was printed in West Russian literary language (or, as it is not quite correctly called in our textbooks, in "Old Belorussian"). But far-reaching conclusions are drawn from this: they say, how appreciated our move! They wrote at such a high level. Respected mov, but we are saying nothing, like mankurts!
                2. Roma 1977
                  Roma 1977 15 September 2017 09: 57
                  +1
                  In fact, everything was much more prosaic and sadder. They wrote in our language so that the laws were understandable to subjects. The attitude of the elite to the West Russian language was dismissive, as to the barbaric language. So, in the preface to the Latin edition of 1529, Albrecht Gastold, one of the most important people in the GDL of that time, wrote: “literally translated from the Russian Statute, whose language is barbaric” (in Latin: “E Rutheno Statuta ipsa ut in barbaro sonant directe de de verbo ad verbum translata "). And today, Gastold, by the way, an ethnic Lithuanian, is presented to us almost as a "great Belarusian statesman."
                  Source: Dzieła, zebrane i wydane przez Edwarda Raczyńskiego. Tom I. Poznan, 1844. S. 67.
                  1. Dmitry Aleksandrovich
                    Dmitry Aleksandrovich 15 September 2017 10: 57
                    +1
                    I can not agree. The laws should have been understood not by all subjects, but by the top, in this case the magnates, who would have brought the laws to the lower strata. In Western Europe at that time, laws (and medical diagnoses) were issued exclusively in Latin, so that only initiates understand)))). As for the elite’s contempt for language ... they are not the first, they are not the last. In the Russian Empire of the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, the elite also despised the Russian language. And now, I think the situation is similar.
                    Again, I repeat, the sovereignty of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania ended after the Union of Gorodel in 1413.
                    1. Roma 1977
                      Roma 1977 15 September 2017 11: 27
                      +1
                      The Lithuanians simply did not have their own written language, so they used Russian from the very onset of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania. But when the Lithuanian writing system was created, it began to supplant the Russian one in office work, and throughout the 18th century, all office work in the ON was conducted in Polish and duplicated in Lithuanian, and Old Belorussian (aka Old Ukrainian) was banned from official use from the end of the 17th century.
                      1. Dmitry Aleksandrovich
                        Dmitry Aleksandrovich 15 September 2017 12: 08
                        0
                        It was already Rzeczpospolita, from the end of the 16th century consisting in confrontation with the Russian Kingdom. As part of the Rzeczpospolita, the Lithuanian nation was formed in the modern sense. In addition, after the Union of Lublin, Orthodox (read Russian) tycoons massively "got too dirty" that is, converted to Catholicism, thereby renouncing national identity. Those who wanted to maintain faith and not be a “third-class man” emigrated (“left”) to the Moscow Kingdom throughout the 15th and 16th centuries. It is clear that by the end of the 17th century the field was cleared and there were simply no native speakers left.
                  2. Pissarro
                    Pissarro 15 September 2017 16: 30
                    +1
                    just like that. I live in Dubai, all the laws are duplicated in English so that the majority of Indians and Filipinos understand them. The authorities are interested in complying with their laws, it’s easier for her to live from this
  12. NickiShnapi
    NickiShnapi 11 September 2017 16: 41
    +1
    I sincerely hope that when the Third World War takes place, our troops will lead the adversary to the borders and leave the civilized to deal with their problems on their own.
  13. Small Saturn
    Small Saturn 11 September 2017 17: 36
    +4
    Well, in VO you can, everything seems to be “your own” here :), but in another place they cling to such things: “Mongolia, etc., etc., the state. Found only in the USSR.” Mongolia has never been part of the USSR. No matter how it changes the essence of the matter, and this is more likely a reservation on Sigismund Shlomo Freud, but still. And so, in the article everything is truthfully and intelligibly laid out on shelves. Who is there who owes what? Close the jaws! Exactly. Here are just the nuances needed. There would be a series of articles ...
  14. faiver
    faiver 11 September 2017 18: 28
    +3
    everything is true, though with small reservations, but they do not change the essence hi
  15. iouris
    iouris 11 September 2017 18: 31
    +3
    The methodological error consists in the fact that the list includes countries that stood out from the Russian Empire as a result of the inability of the victorious Bolsheviks to restore the integrity of the country. This was later done by Stalin on a completely legal basis in accordance with agreements with the leaders of the USA and Great Britain, future permanent members of the UN. These agreements led to the division of the world into two political systems - capitalist and communist. Thus, world capital leaders were forced to recognize communism as an alternative system. The establishment of a communist regime in countries that fell into the sphere of influence of the USSR is not an occupation, with the exception of the Soviet zone of occupation of Germany. These states were not conquered, and the political regime established in them was fully recognized by the United States and Great Britain. Of course, no one asked France. As for Finland, its “neutral” status in the world was determined by a reasonable compromise reached taking into account the real balance of power.
  16. demo
    demo 11 September 2017 19: 29
    +10
    Popular wisdom, of modern day, sounds like this:
    "Not a single good deed will be left unpunished."
    Here we have already received our.
    Low bow to all.
  17. NEXUS
    NEXUS 11 September 2017 19: 32
    +5
    You can add the United States ... if not for Alexander 2, there would be no USA today ...
  18. Kadimich
    Kadimich 11 September 2017 19: 38
    +1
    The author “fools” his head: Russia made good use of the temporary / permanent ownership of the listed lands! Help was never disinterested - the ruling elite of Russia / the USSR always knew this ...
    1. your1970
      your1970 11 September 2017 20: 26
      +3
      Quote: Kadimich
      Russia made good use of the temporary / permanent ownership of the listed lands!
      -and many cities were, for example, in Kazakhstan at the beginning of the 17-18-19-20th century?
    2. Pissarro
      Pissarro 15 September 2017 16: 27
      +1
      I would like at least one example of self-interest that would be worth at least a thousandth of a disinterested flow of goods into these lands
  19. privateer2000
    privateer2000 11 September 2017 19: 52
    +1
    well sho still Russia is silent and does not present accounts to everyone in whom it was invested quite a bit on development. Well, they’ll take it and how the Poles will start accounting, the room will be easy. KS2000
  20. nikvic46
    nikvic46 11 September 2017 19: 56
    +2
    The Baltic states and Poland are well aware that Russia will not start a war against these countries, but these political cheaters have already been launched
    lying wave, changing history in its own way. It’s useless to inspire the truth of history at this stage. They are deaf to our
    arguments. They have political talk. It's a shame that there are people in Russia who know the history very well,
    no less sing along to them.
    1. CONTROL
      CONTROL 12 September 2017 12: 29
      +1
      Quote: nikvic46
      It's a shame that in Russia there are people who know the history very well,
      no less sing along to them.

      Business, nothing personal ...
  21. Hoc vince
    Hoc vince 11 September 2017 21: 40
    0
    “When it suddenly turned out that we had a MTR. Then it also suddenly became clear that there were tank troops, artillery and, finally, the VKS ”
    And then they were horrified to learn that the Russian embassy is financing the Kremlin
    1. Olaf Uksimae
      Olaf Uksimae 12 September 2017 03: 53
      +2
      The worst part is that CNN reported that Putin has ties to the Kremlin. Here it is the salt of the whole essence.
  22. Gransasso
    Gransasso 11 September 2017 22: 53
    +3
    "....Poland.
    With the help of Russia, she regained her independence twice, in the same 1918 and 1944 ..... "



    Enchanting ... especially considering Which country had a hand in the destruction of independence in all these cases
    1. Golub Ilya
      Golub Ilya 12 September 2017 05: 00
      +2
      You have a strange interpretation of history, the aggressive politics of the speech of the Commonwealth that it was doing in Russia, Hitler would stand aside and nervously buy it.
  23. Gransasso
    Gransasso 11 September 2017 22: 58
    +1
    Quote: NEXUS
    You can add the United States ... if not for Alexander 2, there would be no USA today ...




    Could you give more details? ... something new ....
    1. Kachesgm
      Kachesgm 12 September 2017 14: 59
      +1
      Catherine II (certainly not Alexander II — he wasn’t born then :)) by the navy and not only actively helped the rebels against the troops of the English Empire.
      https://topwar.ru/31320-russkie-v-voyne-za-nezavi
      simost-ssha-v-1775-1783-godah.html
    2. Roma 1977
      Roma 1977 14 September 2017 10: 22
      0
      Alexander II sided with the United States in a civil war between the North and the South. Two squadrons of the Russian fleet were sent to the United States to conduct combat operations against Anglo-French shipping if England and France entered the war on the side of the South.
  24. Gennady Fyodorov
    Gennady Fyodorov 12 September 2017 00: 04
    +3
    "Russian" your time is up! You have proved that you cannot control the Genghis Khan Empire! You do not have intelligence! Jews seized power by adopting “Russian” surnames such as Medvedev, or generally incomprehensible “Putin” and rule “Russians” on behalf of an incomprehensible race!
    1. von_Tilsit
      von_Tilsit 12 September 2017 12: 08
      +6
      Pan does not shake?))
    2. CT-55_11-9009
      CT-55_11-9009 13 September 2017 15: 11
      +2
      Enchanting. Burn more, psychotherapists lack materials for research!
  25. Dmitry Kuzhilney
    Dmitry Kuzhilney 12 September 2017 08: 58
    0
    Suitable speech for speaking with an armored car or in the Leninist room of the frontier post. smile
    Although, the general vector of the article is understandable, and it is difficult to disagree with it.

    PS: And yes: I do not advise the author to blur somewhere in the Novi Sad kafan that Serbia became an independent state only in 1878. In the best case, he will no longer be poured and forced to listen to a noisy lecture on the Nemanichs and Khrebelyanovichs. smile
  26. Michael_Zverev
    Michael_Zverev 12 September 2017 09: 10
    +3
    The next time, if you occupy anyone, then occupy for real, with mass rape and genocide, so that it is not in vain that they are accused. laughing
  27. Olrov2010
    Olrov2010 12 September 2017 10: 49
    +1
    Too kind a Russian man, that’s why they hammer us for our kindness.
  28. aries2200
    aries2200 12 September 2017 16: 17
    +2
    .. you need to finish .. this demagogy .... go wash the boots in the English Channel for a start .... Finland to return to the empire ... Alaska .. California ... Port Arthur ...... angry .
  29. Lex.
    Lex. 12 September 2017 21: 17
    +2
    It is more interesting here, if only because they shout the loudest. The state of Lithuania was in the form of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, but ended in 1569 with the union with Poland in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Then there was a decline, and in the 1772, 1793 and 1795 years, Rzeczpospolita was successfully divided between Russia, Prussia and Austria.
    Well, this is a mistake. Modern Lithuania. They are the midwives. They have nothing to do.
  30. Lex.
    Lex. 12 September 2017 21: 20
    +2
    Apparently, the fact is that in those countries this occupation is simply desirable. We exclude Belarus, it’s hard there, but not so much as to dream of Russia’s occupation. Therefore, individual cries that "we will be captured and enslaved tomorrow" - this is so ... verification.
    This is the fifth column of Dashkevich, Klaskovsky, Poznyak, Zisser, I don’t know what Kukishenko suffers to throw them into Poland, they had to
  31. Conductor
    Conductor 13 September 2017 05: 45
    +1
    Pralno, occupation is so occupation, to arrange genocide throughout, for example, the Baltic states, but they will be afraid and respected))))).
  32. intuzazist
    intuzazist 13 September 2017 05: 51
    +4
    Quote: eklmn
    Have you forgotten festivals in Jurmala? Go to youtube and remember

    No, they didn’t forget !!! And why we moved the festival, too, remember !!! And we don’t remember citizens, and we remember brutal Russophobia! But you forgot who owe your independence !!! The entire memory of the historic Coca-Cola washed away ........................
    1. Zheleznostop
      Zheleznostop 18 September 2017 09: 51
      +1
      They will be able to claw about their independence only after returning 56 tons of silver with interest, but for now de facto these sprats are our property with all their giblets.
  33. intuzazist
    intuzazist 13 September 2017 05: 58
    +2
    Quote: Gransasso
    Could you give more details? ... something new ....

    And you, my friend, are still very young !!! In the last century, it was taught in high school ...........
  34. intuzazist
    intuzazist 13 September 2017 06: 00
    +1
    Quote: Mikhail_Zverev
    The next time, if you occupy anyone, then occupy for real, with mass rape and genocide, so that it is not in vain that they are accused. laughing

    And the export of all that is valuable! Clean up .........
  35. nnz226
    nnz226 14 September 2017 17: 30
    +3
    As correctly said: "The occupation of Russia still needs to be earned!" Of all the listed former in the USSR, not a single occupation deserves! For: according to the cat Matroskin: "What is the use of them ?!" No! Therefore, following the example of the Baltic states: “They were in the USSR the western face of the country, they became the eastern ass of Europe in the EU” ... For this - everything!
  36. Old military officer
    Old military officer 14 September 2017 19: 00
    +1
    Unfortunately, for good, for some reason it is customary to pay evil. However, it will pass by itself or ...
  37. Old military officer
    Old military officer 14 September 2017 19: 03
    +1
    Quote: ibirus
    The article is correct. The main thing in interstate relations is not to forget about self-esteem and benefit.

    Very well said. I will add only one question: to whom?
  38. Old military officer
    Old military officer 14 September 2017 19: 06
    +3
    Quote: CONTROL
    Quote: nikvic46
    It's a shame that in Russia there are people who know the history very well,
    no less sing along to them.

    Business, nothing personal ...

    Such a business was called not so long ago article 58. Criminal Code of the USSR
  39. OPOEL
    OPOEL 14 September 2017 21: 30
    0
    I'm afraid Russia will be able to capture only its allies, they will never scamper on NATO countries in the Kremlin.
    1. Pissarro
      Pissarro 15 September 2017 16: 39
      +2
      Russia doesn’t capture anyone. It frees. They will send six for leaders in us in NATO’s squad (though they’ll probably send them before the leaders), then the Kremlin will consider that they are not worthy of independence and will free them from this heavy burden. .The entry of troops must be earned
  40. Alexaker
    Alexaker 14 September 2017 21: 45
    0
    And our specialists (Graduates of Higher Educational Institutions ..) pssss ...))
    everywhere there are bookmarks in their brains do not erase!

    Who is ready.
  41. Naum
    Naum 15 September 2017 16: 08
    0
    All this vile barking from the "European" gateway stems solely from envy and malice because of its own insignificance. Well, they will never be on a par with Russia for all its difficulties! "States" can be created artificially, but they will always feel flawed and blame their creators for their wretchedness. A real state is being created by a state-forming nation. Not a nation (nationality, tribe, teip or camp), but NATION. Strong, numerous, held together by a single authority, faith, culture and space. Statehood was presented to all these “spratlands”, but they themselves cannot survive. Only parasitizing on other countries that took place. Such were the USSR, the EEC. it’s time for us to swim, but it’s not strong. Hence all their anger and hysteria ...