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General Konashenkov - to Berlin: "Have you taken a number in 100 from the ceiling during training exercises from the ceiling?"

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The main defense department of Russia expressed bewilderment at the statement of German Defense Minister Ursula von der Lyayen about the use of allegedly 100 by thousands of thousands of servicemen by Russia at the Zapad-2017 exercises. Recall that last Thursday, the head of the German military department, while on a visit to Tallinn, said that "Russia demonstrates the combat capability and power of deploying 100-thousandth military contingent for the time of the exercises".

Ursula von der Lyayen comments on the official representative MO RF Igor Konashenkov:

We are surprised by the statements of the head of the German military department, Mrs. Ursula von der Lyayen, who publicly uses the figures taken from the ceiling about the alleged 100 of thousands of Russian military personnel involved in the West-2017 exercise and lurking in connection with these threats to Europe.

The German side promptly received and has all the comprehensive information about the plan, defensive nature and real number of Russian troops engaged in the Zapad-2017 exercise.

Detailed information about the teachings was provided to Germany both by the Belarusian side and directly to the military attache at the German embassy in Moscow during a special 29 briefing in August by Deputy Defense Minister Alexander Fomin (in front of hundreds of foreign journalists).

Moreover, General of the Army Valery Gerasimov, Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, literally the day before yesterday in Baku during a meeting with the head of the NATO Military Committee, further informed General Peter Pavel about the West-2017 exercises, stressing that they are planned and not directed against third countries .

It is hard to imagine that the colleagues of Mrs. Ursula von der Lyayen on NATO, from other interested German departments or their own subordinates consciously mislead the head of the German Defense Ministry. Much easier to assume the opposite.


General Konashenkov - to Berlin: "Have you taken a number in 100 from the ceiling during training exercises from the ceiling?"


Recall that in the course of the Russian-Belarusian maneuvers a total of less than 13 thousand troops will be involved. On the territory of Belarus, thousands of servicemen of the RF Armed Forces will participate in military maneuvers 3.
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  1. herruvim
    herruvim 9 September 2017 09: 14
    +5
    Fear has great eyes
    1. Logall
      Logall 9 September 2017 09: 19
      +19
      Rather, heads are empty in Europe! One thread ...
      There is a burger, no brains! (There is - this is not in the sense of eating. Although this is also correct.)
      1. NIKNN
        NIKNN 9 September 2017 10: 52
        +9
        Quote: Logall
        "Have you taken the figure of 100 thousand servicemen from the ceiling from exercises?"

        Dolbyotyatly laughing , in fact 200 ... laughing
        1. Logall
          Logall 9 September 2017 13: 52
          +16
          Dear, this quote is not mine! I do not express my emotions so softly ...
          I would say: Digging out this figure through the nose, we got to the very back hole!
          1. NIKNN
            NIKNN 9 September 2017 14: 16
            +4
            Quote: Logall
            Dear, this quote is not mine!

            I apologize ... accidentally for some reason it went under your nickname ... missed ... request hi
            1. Logall
              Logall 9 September 2017 14: 27
              +15
              Come on, it happens! drinks
              I hope you liked my `` pearl '' too ...
              1. NIKNN
                NIKNN 9 September 2017 14: 28
                +3
                Quote: Logall
                I hope you liked my `` pearl '' too ...

                Certainly! wink
    2. hrych
      hrych 9 September 2017 09: 22
      +3
      Quote: herruvim
      Fear has great eyes

      And the other organ, on the contrary, shrinks
      1. DEPARTMENT
        DEPARTMENT 9 September 2017 09: 41
        +1
        Russia’s involvement in allegedly 100 thousand military personnel at the West-2017 exercises.

        They are on the border with Belarus, etc. for a long time ... They will also be in their teachings! So everything is logical in principle, gentlemen .. We need a tank fist in the western direction, the West is most afraid of it .. Everything will be, give time! soldier
    3. oldseaman1957
      oldseaman1957 9 September 2017 09: 42
      +1
      Quote: herruvim
      Fear has great eyes
      - - The Israeli-Arab war of 1967. An Egyptian general rides a jeep to the front, and 10000 Egyptian soldiers flee in panic towards him, dropping their weapons. They are being chased by 10 Israeli soldiers. General: - Why are you running? There are only 10 of them !! “How do we know which of us they are chasing ten of us?”
    4. stolz
      stolz 9 September 2017 11: 21
      0
      This Ursula is an old woman whose hair is long, and her mind is short, and here the climax is in full swing, which doesn’t add any mind either, rather the opposite. It is a sin to be offended, the wretched also have the right to vote.
    5. Tusv
      Tusv 9 September 2017 11: 26
      0
      Quote: herruvim
      Fear has great eyes

      stop Not. Here it is a matter of diaper volume. The more I put there, the higher above sea level bully
    6. Ivan Ivanov
      Ivan Ivanov 9 September 2017 11: 55
      0
      Quote: herruvim
      Fear has great eyes


      Especially the one invented on purpose. Scarecrows for the layman - that’s it.
    7. self-propelled
      self-propelled 9 September 2017 16: 01
      +2
      Yes, if 100 thousand? who cares?
      it seems like the Balts are ready to lie with their bones in defending EUROPE. that's just where they are with 66 thousand like fighters against 100 thousand of the Russian army + Belarusian defenders. and these are just teachings ... and if war (God forbid) - the old tyn will sweep you away without straining ... and let them believe in these figures in Germany. where there is a certain Ursule von der mer horseradish Läine (that's really really horseradish pronounce) to Shoigu. and it’s no good to level up a man, a military man, forgive me for the incorrectness, a woman who (I am sure) never had an assault rifle in her hands.
      "Learn military affairs in this way" (V.I. Lenin)
    8. svp67
      svp67 9 September 2017 16: 30
      +1
      Quote: herruvim
      Fear has great eyes

      I don’t know what anyone has, but this question is:
      General Konashenkov - to Berlin: "Have you taken a number in 100 from the ceiling during training exercises from the ceiling?"
      it is necessary to ask OFFICIALLY the German military attache, demanding an answer, and not just "shake the air"
  2. Logall
    Logall 9 September 2017 09: 14
    +16
    If the training will be held with 100 1000 contingents, then we will only remember the Baltic States, the whole of Europe!
    '' Cossacks, Cossacks! Our Cossacks are coming, going across Berlin! ''
    1. Cutter
      Cutter 9 September 2017 09: 32
      +7
      They didn’t take it from the ceiling, their brains swam with a well-fed life, by McDonald's and Coca-Cola! And here, for sure, there is no provocation, they are often bluntly uneducated. "Austria-Australia", and Georgia is not a country, but the US state (in context), and an aircraft carrier to the shores of my country ... fool And a woman cannot be a Minister of Defense.
  3. Herculesic
    Herculesic 9 September 2017 09: 25
    +6
    For Europe, there is no difference between the figures 13000 and 1000000 when it comes to the Russian Army! They and 13000 soldiers are vibrating finely with fear, and from the figure 100000 they will fight in droves in droves! !!
  4. soroKING
    soroKING 9 September 2017 09: 25
    +1
    in the eyes will decay ...
    time to get off hard drugs wassat
    1. Olaf Uksimae
      Olaf Uksimae 9 September 2017 09: 55
      +1
      Auntie needs more, more men are healthy and handsome, 100 thousand men, he will pursue excitement until retirement
  5. anjey
    anjey 9 September 2017 09: 28
    +3
    Apparently there are no positive aspects to female emancipation in Europe ..., the German MoD is the same "lyapalka duraleikina" like everyone else ....
  6. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 9 September 2017 09: 35
    +1
    Intelligence for them ... Does it work on the Internet? And FIG knows where else you can get such information. No joke, 100 thousand. Ground forces. After all, how much is one technique! Echelons and echelons ... There are more than a thousand tanks alone. And where are they? Where to place, how to supply? But the math is alien to the gay people. Give them PR, drive ... well, and once again about st-R-R-rush Russia to push.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 9 September 2017 09: 51
      +4
      I tried to understand the topic. They cannot stupidly lie on the blue eye, even for them it is too much ...
      As far as I understood. they made a tricky feint with their ears, stupidly adding up ALL the exercises conducted in the RF Armed Forces, and somewhat extending the time period. Say, "Russia, in order not to invite observers," discretized "the exercises, highlighting the Belarusian stage as a separate event." But in fact, these are the largest exercises since the end of the Cold War, with hundreds of thousands participating.
      This is not particularly consistent with the invitations of these observers, therefore this fact is hushed up. For even after repeated statements and the Russian one. and the Belarusian side about the possibility of both military observers and journalists to attend exercises, NATO functionaries and their propaganda campaigns continue to talk about "opacity", as if they did not know anything about it.
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 9 September 2017 11: 10
        +2
        Quote: Spade
        they made a tricky feint with their ears,

        To the heap, in addition to the Belarusian grouping "West-2017", having counted, also planned exercises in the Kaliningrad, Pskov and Leningrad regions. Then - yes, tsifirki "dance". Infa skipped with references to precisely these areas.
        Quote: Spade
        keep talking about "opacity"

        In other words, "let us go everywhere." yes
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 9 September 2017 11: 22
          +1
          Quote: Paranoid50
          In other words, "let us go everywhere."

          They do not need it. It’s simply impossible to see the main thing in large exercises — the work of headquarters.

          They need confirmation of the agitprop mantra "Aggressive Russia". It’s not for nothing that they absolutely openly declare in their governing documents that “strategic propaganda smoothes the gap between NATO statements and reality" (with)NATO Military Policy on Information Operations, 2012, p. twenty
          1. Paranoid50
            Paranoid50 9 September 2017 11: 38
            +2
            Quote: Spade
            "Strategic propaganda smoothes the gap between NATO statements and reality."

            Damn it, 0,7 Metropolitan has a similar effect.
            Quote: Spade
            They need confirmation of the agitprop mantra "Aggressive Russia".
            Duc, and so everyone in the know, even we ourselves are already afraid. yes These "dances with tambourines at the totem of war" hesitated.
  7. APASUS
    APASUS 9 September 2017 09: 42
    0
    This is yesterday Petro Poroshenko from Budun called
  8. Masya masya
    Masya masya 9 September 2017 09: 51
    +5
    The grander the lie, the easier it is for them to believe ...
    1. XXXIII
      XXXIII 9 September 2017 11: 08
      +2
      The grander the lie, the easier it is for them to believe ... yes
  9. afrikanez
    afrikanez 9 September 2017 09: 56
    0
    Well, if the Americans (in some states) have a PI = 4, what more can you say! fool
  10. gabonskijfront
    gabonskijfront 9 September 2017 10: 14
    +3
    here in Kaliningrad they are rowing into "partisans" with terrible force. Half of the men were taken away in the office. They took us to a field and set up a camp and chased them as conscripts. They scorch guns, run and drive on equipment. They say Shoigu said to deploy a full-fledged motorized rifle division from the assigned staff. Technicians in the field are driving a myriad of women, women are worried and nervous.
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 9 September 2017 11: 26
      +2
      Quote: gabonskijfront
      here in Kaliningrad they are rowing into "partisans" with terrible force. In the office, half of the men were taken

      Damn, given the situation as a whole, half is still "divine."
      Quote: gabonskijfront
      women are worried and nervous.

      Damn it, of course, it’s not for them to play the accordion and to “light up” squatting. Duc, given the dvizhuha, could attract them, on the medical side, for example (such as field courses).
  11. igfrost1957
    igfrost1957 9 September 2017 10: 18
    +3
    Already ridiculous - Minister of Defense Ursula von der Leyen. As soon as the generals obey the gynecologist?
    1. LeonidL
      LeonidL 10 September 2017 00: 41
      +2
      Well ... firstly, political correctness, and secondly, a gynecologist for men is called a proctologist - one hell!
  12. Alexander War
    Alexander War 9 September 2017 10: 18
    +4
    Off-topic! "3 days before Deir ez-Zora." Special report.
    1. Alexander War
      Alexander War 9 September 2017 10: 24
      +2
      Ours in Deir ez-Zor. video from 42min 40 sec
  13. anjey
    anjey 9 September 2017 10: 22
    0
    Quote: gabonskijfront
    here in Kaliningrad they are rowing into "partisans" with terrible force. Half of the men were taken away in the office. They took us to a field and set up a camp and chased them as conscripts. They scorch guns, run and drive on equipment. They say Shoigu said to deploy a full-fledged motorized rifle division from the assigned staff. Technicians in the field are driving a myriad of women, women are worried and nervous.

    and women in the trenches, a medical examiner and a cook are always needed ... all the more it’s paid for, extreme sports from everyday life ..
  14. aszzz888
    aszzz888 9 September 2017 10: 27
    0
    sayings German Minister of Defense Ursula von der Leyen on the alleged use of Russia allegedly 100 thousand troops in the exercises "West-2017."

    ... it seems like a responsible official - the whole minister of defense of the country, and not the leader of a tribe like yum-yum, but is not responsible for his bazaar ... angry
  15. Unbearable
    Unbearable 9 September 2017 10: 33
    0
    So the historical facts in wars, the West, in its own way, everything can be supposed ...
  16. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 9 September 2017 10: 41
    +2
    Again, "streamlined" wording, bashful "remarks", from all our "answers" to the frank lies of the "partners" there remains a vile feeling that Russia is "justifying itself", "apologizing". Is it really impossible in this case to say honestly and openly that Mrs. Ursula is lying, namely lying and lying deliberately in order to raise the degree of anti-Russian hysteria and beat out additional funding for herself through social programs. Or lies to please the owners in Washington who are pressing on NATO countries to raise their military budgets. Really it is impossible to call a spade a spade, and not to fool before "partners", being afraid to inadvertently offend them with an "awkward" word. Honestly, it’s already disgusting to listen to all these swines.
  17. wasjasibirjac
    wasjasibirjac 9 September 2017 10: 42
    +1
    they came up with the problem themselves.
    the problems themselves were scared.
    the problem itself was resolved.
    I won’t be surprised if AFTER the teachings of the Federal Republic of Germany, it will make a statement that it was precisely because of its firm position that Russia was frightened and reduced the forces participating in the exercises to 13000 people. And without this, the Russian army in general all .........
  18. Mwg
    Mwg 9 September 2017 10: 51
    +1
    "... statements by German Minister of Defense Ursula von der Leyen ..." and what did you expect - she’s a girl, for her the numbers do not matter
  19. XXXIII
    XXXIII 9 September 2017 11: 13
    +1
    "Russia demonstrates combat readiness and power, deploying 100-strong military contingent during exercises during exercises"

  20. Naum Coming
    Naum Coming 9 September 2017 11: 25
    0
    Female fantasies often do not converge with reality.
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  26. Petrov the son
    Petrov the son 9 September 2017 13: 19
    0
    Ursula has sexual fantasies.
  27. iouris
    iouris 9 September 2017 14: 46
    0
    All comments convincingly show that Ursula is wrong. As they say, I realized, repented, no longer go to waste ...
  28. Ivan Ivanov
    Ivan Ivanov 9 September 2017 18: 01
    0
    More explanation excuses excuses concerns and everything will be ok
  29. Egorovich
    Egorovich 9 September 2017 20: 29
    +6
    Ursula lives in his parallel, unfinished world in 1945. In the holy foolish world, holy fools. Even a little sorry for these senility.
  30. Topotun
    Topotun 9 September 2017 23: 16
    +1
    Our Defense Ministry does not understand anything, their intelligence works well. In the morning, climb to the Internet and search for data on our aircraft .....
    1. LeonidL
      LeonidL 9 September 2017 23: 33
      +2
      Add - in Ukrainian social networks!
  31. LeonidL
    LeonidL 9 September 2017 23: 33
    +2
    In place of Konashenkov, I would have expressed it differently: "We admit, a mistake came out, not a hundred thousand were involved, but half a million and the goal is really to break through the corridor to the English Channel. Wait!" ... here the circus would have begun with the change of underpants! And I’m sure that the NATO members themselves would be the first to start convincing that there wasn’t a million there, there wasn’t and there weren’t, and all there were 12 as stated ... Otherwise, there would be traffic jams on motorways and gasoline would disappear worse than Irma.
  32. Antokha
    Antokha 10 September 2017 16: 54
    0
    Well, why not continue it like this: "since you obviously do not need true information, we will no longer provide it." Not to mention the fact that the exercises on our territory do not concern anyone by definition.