Ukrainian-Polish tank presented at MSPO-2017

The upgraded tank RT-17 co-production of Ukraine and Poland is presented at the international exhibition of defense industry MSPO-2017.

As reported on the website of the concern “Ukroboronprom”, PT-17 is “the result of a combination of engineering thought of the defense complexes of Poland and Ukraine”.

This allowed in just five months to develop, manufacture and provide all components, assemblies and components, so that at MSPO-2017 a full presentation of the new tank

- said the concern.

The report notes that the upgraded tank PT-17 meets NATO standards and is a T-72 with a Polish engine S1000R, an automatic transmission ESM-350M and a KBM2 X-gun caliber 120-mm, which was manufactured at Ukroboronprom.

Ukrainian and Polish specialists altered the mechanism for charging the gun, installed Polish sights and modernized the tank protection systems.

Comments

[Partyzan]

the result of a combination of engineering defense systems of Poland and Ukraine

But why was the Soviet T-72 needed? or wrong thoughts visited the brightest heads? because all soviet these two "superpowers" destroy

[hrych]

It is necessary on the T-72 on top of the forelock, and behind the Polish hussar feathers and thought spreads over the tree

[Partyzan]

tank "crested cuirassier"? original

[Ulan]

This is not a cuirassier, it is a Polish "winged hussar." But still original.

[Partyzan]

this is the Polish "winged hussar"

do not lower the hussars
The cuirassiers (literally translated - footballers, fr. Cuirasse - armor) - a kind of heavy cavalry dressed in cuirasses.
Hussars (Hungarian huszár) are lightly armed horsemen of the XNUMXth – XNUMXth centuries (along with ulans), distinguished by characteristic clothing: a shako (a high cylindrical cap with a visor), a mentic (a fur cape), a doloman (short uniform), leggings, boots. In the XV-XVII centuries, light armor was worn, including incomplete armor.

[Ulan]

No, it was the Polish hussars and they wore armor then, such as in the photo and scaly ones. You can watch Otto von Winkler. Well, or in the magazine "Zeichhaus".
You can just search the internet - "Polish winged hussars."

[Pancir026]

Quote: Ulan

"Polish winged hussars."

You are absolutely right. This is exactly what you said, the winged hussar.

[vovanpain]

Quote: Partyzan

because all soviet these two "superpowers" destroy

Hi Volodya And this is such a de-communization. What they will not undertake, then they do not care, everything Soviet goes.

[Partyzan]

it is such a de-communization.

Greetings Volodya dill decommunization -

[Cutter]

Quote: Partyzan

the result of a combination of engineering defense systems of Poland and Ukraine

But why was the Soviet T-72 needed? or wrong thoughts visited the brightest heads? because all soviet these two "superpowers" destroy

Volodya, dear, how can you make a tank different in 5 (!) Months? Pra-ah-avilo, STEET the Soviet (Russian) foundation, stick your own and announce - we are great!

[Partyzan]

stick your own and announce - we are great!

right well done - communized, another step towards decommunization

[enot73]

Quote: Partyzan

But why was the Soviet T-72 needed?

Poles have been sucking the topic of "T-72" for a long time. For example, PT-91 Twardy. For that, Poles and Dill will again everywhere talk about the height and combination of their engineering

[Partyzan]

and then Poles and dill will again everywhere speak of the height and combination of their engineering

combination - yes, and the height is somehow in doubt

[Ulan]

It would be better if they made a Ukrainian-Gabon tank.
If, of course, the Gabonese agreed to transfer their technology to Ukraine.

[Maz]

Another overtake of Kiev and Warsaw. I can imagine what they did there ... God forbid anyone to buy this monster. Especially the Polish tank school worries me. And the plant named after Malyshev could also be called Zobe Putne. However, it’s scary, or the engine will stall or the chassis will jam. I would like to look at buyers and customers. Or blacks from Gabon, or I don’t even know hto

[Warnoob]

Those. when the Poles were Ukrainians, they "got the hell out of it", and when Russia and the T72B3, then "n ** dec west"? Double standarts. Not good.

[Ulan]

In fact, we are modernizing our tank, not a stranger. MA-ah-a-scarlet such a difference.

[Warnoob]

T-72, which in the Russian Federation, the vast majority are made in the union. Like the Ukrainian. We have our own 1) T-90 (and even that is conditionally Russian, it was only produced in Russia, the project itself was created in the USSR). 2) T-14 - conditionally is. It is not considered to produce a dozen or two samples, now all at least some developed countries (including Ukraine with tank production preserved from the USSR) can do this. It will appear only when in the tank troops it will be a serious part, such that the enemy will have to reckon with it.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: WarNoob

T-72, which in the Russian Federation, the vast majority are made in the union. Like the Ukrainian. We have our own 1) T-90 (and even that is conditionally Russian, it was only produced in Russia, the project itself was created in the USSR). 2) T-14 - conditionally is. It is not considered to produce a dozen or two samples, now all at least some developed countries (including Ukraine with tank production preserved from the USSR) can do this. It will appear only when in the tank troops it will be a serious part, such that the enemy will have to reckon with it.

it’s especially “gifted” to know that Russia was the basis of the USSR ... and before the USSR there was the Russian Empire !!!

[Warnoob]

The basis of the USSR was the CPSU, which turned people around as it wanted.
"And before the USSR there was the Russian Empire", yes, it was a matter. Quote from the Brest Peace wiki:
“The Privislin provinces, Ukraine, the provinces with the predominant Belarusian population, the Estland, Courland and Livonia provinces, and the Grand Duchy of Finland were torn away from Russia.”
And further:
"A territory of 780 thousand sq. Km. With a population of 56 million people (a third of the population of the Russian Empire) and on which (before the revolution): 27% of the cultivated agricultural land, 26% of the entire railway network, 33% of the textile industry was seized from Russia 73% of iron and steel was smelted, 89% of coal was mined and 90% of sugar was produced; there were 918 textile factories, 574 breweries, 133 tobacco factories, 1685 distilleries, 244 chemical plants, 615 pulp mills, 1073 engineering plants and 40 % industrial workers. "
Something does not seem like Russia was the foundation of the Empire.

[ITZ instructor]

T-72 was also produced in Poland. If we are not talking about who invented it, but about who made it, then in Poland they will upgrade their tanks.

[Pirogov]

Quote: Maz

Another overtake of Kiev and Warsaw. I can imagine what they did there ... God forbid anyone to buy this monster. Especially the Polish tank school worries me. And the plant named after Malyshev could also be called Zobe Putne. However, it’s scary, or the engine will stall or the chassis will jam. I would like to look at buyers and customers. Or blacks from Gabon, or I don’t even know hto

The Polish tank school, except for the modernization of the T72, is not capable of anything. And the question arises why sculpt another tank, if there is ,,, such as invincible ,,, Stronghold?

[Warnoob]

"The Polish tank school, except for the modernization of the T72 is not capable of anything" - maybe because they do not need more? Now Poland is one of the most stable developing countries in the world. If necessary, Germany will not be against cooperation in its "cat" family.

[Herculesic]

So they have a struggle with the "Soviet past", and T72 made in the USSR? What is it all of a sudden? Or are words divorced from deeds? ?? Create your tank, you’ve developed a concept with the Angles, created a model and sculpt it, and leave behind our tank! !!

[Gray brother]

Quote: Herkulesich

and T72 made in the USSR?

This one made in Poland, this is the PT-91 Twardy upgraded.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Gray Brother

This one made in Poland, this is the PT-91 Twardy upgraded.

Well, that’s what it says - a modernized + again modernized T-72.

[sabakina]

And the cannon is in Ukroboronprom.

[Gray brother]

And what is Ukrainian there? The tank is Polish and made in Poland under a Soviet license.

[Topotun]

Ukrainian gun, this is what worries me. Suddenly how their "hammer" will smash?

[Gray brother]

Quote: Topotun

Ukrainian gun, this is what worries me.

Made from roundwood? Or did I miss something and VNA began to produce tank guns in commercial quantities?

[Tusv]

Quote: Gray Brother

Or did I miss something and VNA began to produce tank guns in commercial quantities?

So what to do. Romanian novye does not correspond, but here it is possible to seat the barrel by heat treatment. The benefit of trunks and chassis in 404 dofig and more

[ITZ instructor]

Missed. Has long been. since 1998.

[bk316]

this is what worries.

This does not worry, it is fascinating: I really want to see how the shell in the breech explodes.

[Partyzan]

I really want to see how the shell in the breech explodes.

well you are a sadist

[bk316]

well you are a sadist

Not .. I’m not forcing anyone to buy this tank, then I would be a sadist.

[Topotun]

Or sit in it at the time of the shot?

[bk316]

To be honest, I can’t imagine how to sit in the tank at all at the time of the shot.
I immediately passed the hyacinth commander, still not very well with hearing, but here is a confined space.
In general, when a battery of hyacinths shoots, you immediately understand the proverb about the god of war. Words can not describe.

[parusnik]

The report notes that the upgraded tank PT-17 meets NATO standards and is a T-72 with a Polish engine S1000R, an automatic transmission ESM-350M and a KBM2 X-gun caliber 120-mm, which was manufactured at Ukroboronprom.

..Polish-Ukrainian technical thought surpassed itself ... I admire ..

[family tree]

is a T-72

Tagil !!!
Achoa ,is not it so? I put shock absorbers on the front end from Sobol on my KIA Sportage, and from the Volzhans on the backside, she became Russian from this , but nifiga, like the Korean UAZ of the 95th, remained, cho

[andrewkor]

A cannon from the famous pipe factory, a resource of 100 shots. Well, the Psheks, well done, they have few scandals. The ruins with Iraq, Thailand, also decided to take a chance, pecked at the deshovka.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: andrewkor

A cannon from the famous pipe factory, a resource of 100 shots.

There are two pipes coming, so 200.

[Serge]

It recalls the configuration of the development of Soviet designers "Object 219A" - this is an example of the development of the T-80

[avdkrd]

I can not understand why srach to breed? Well, Kakly and Poles have modernized the T-72, well, the Soviet is a tank, did it become bad from this? Judging by the photo, the level of modernization is much higher than that of the T-72B3, at least in terms of dynamic protection and side screens. By the number of video cameras, we can conclude that with the situational awareness of this sample, too, everything is in order. The presence of a remote control module with a machine gun is the same plus. The presence of a developed niche most likely involves the MOH mounted in it. The decision to place the BC in the tower niche is controversial, although it gives advantages in rate of fire. In general, this is traditional for a Western school, to which neither kakly nor psheks belong. . Of course, even on the basis of the video, there are a number of questions about the type of DZ (solid block on the entire cheekbone of the tower) and the strange placement of smoke grenade launchers, to the detriment of protection in the side projection of the tower. I would like technical details, but even so we can conclude that the car turned out to be serious. This is not a T-72, but a tank located at least at the level of t-90ms

[vanavatny]

hmm, respectable you didn’t catch a bit of a change in ... Ukraine and Poland ... after talking about technical aspects there will be only very enthusiastic people, good luck to you

[bk316]

Many letters were written in defense of Ukrvoenprom, but it is surprising that they did not notice the main thing in the comments. Where in 404 do modern tank guns produce it? You can imagine the difference between an 80 mm mortar and a 152 mm howitzer, I'm not talking about a 120 mm tank at all ....

[kenig1]

"Judging by the photo." Where are we to the great traditions of Polish tank building.

[Ulan]

All modernization was limited to hinged screens. They already wrote about the gun what it can be.

[Aim point]

Some will not live a day without Ukrainians, what are you talking about?)

[Vladimirets]

Quote: avdkrd

Judging by the photo, the level of modernization is much higher than that of the T-72B3, at least in terms of dynamic protection and side screens.

Well, if you rushed to defend this Panzerwaffe, then what did you see there "much higher" than the T-72B3? Beautiful licked DZ? Do you know the specifications and test results? And what is so outstanding about the side screens? Vague doubts torment me that these dangling sheets will not be torn off in real databases.

[Vadim Kurbatov]

from the photo you can say a lot of things, you can make a sweet candy in appearance, but it will turn out to be like shit and here it looks like norms, but here’s how you understand the filling

[ITZ instructor]

Well, if this were done, say in the Urals, the heading would be in the style of "America is again in shock" and "has no analogues"

[bk316]

Well, if it were done, let's say in the Urals

This could not be done in the Urals.
They did not call the new breakthrough tank the dubious modernization of the product created by the enemy (the USSR and the Russian Federation are your enemies) 50 years ago.

[sabakina]

and a 2-mm KBM120 cannon, which was manufactured at the Ukroboronprom enterprise.

People, just don’t tell them about the hammer.

[bagr69]

Is it possible to call it "new"?

[NEXUS]

Modernized tank RT-17 joint production of Ukraine and Poland

And the USSR, .. Poles with Ukrainians like that dragonfly- "We plowed" ..

[ITZ instructor]

Poland produced T-72 tanks but did not enter the USSR, Ukraine entered the USSR but did not produce T-72.

[Proton]

And then they will still say that the USSR occupied them, so quit all use the occupation Do yours.
A gun Ukrainians probably made from a pipe drill?

[Des10]

"... and a 2-mm KBM120 cannon, which was manufactured at the Ukroboronprom enterprise."
Like they said here --- there is nowhere for them to make such a thing? And not 125mm!

[uporov65]

Let your tank miracle come to us for tank biathlon, and there we will see what kind of bird it is so wonderful.

[Nikita74]

gun loading mechanism ???? The author is what kind of unit in the tank ????

[VOENOBOZ]

His iron is not enough, you need to sculpt on the Soviet maybe they will not understand and will accept them as "super-sovereign".

[Andrey160479]

I’ll tell you a huge secret, so that the Poles do not make technology, then the complete gov-oh. I felt on myself. So there is nothing to fear. Let them sculpt.

[APASUS]

1 Who is this development for? Given the fact that Ukraine and Poland so diligently acquire all the scrap metal from the West.
2 The source of the T-72 will be dumps of weapons of Ukraine?

[Bare]

I blinded him from what was. WITH . . . and, smeared, sculpted clay was not enough.

[Romanenko]

UkroPshek-120, a joint Ukrainian-Polish tuning studio, according to your order, will repel any Soviet equipment according to NATO standards ...
Sadly, it’s better than thinking that they are allies and get a knife in the back and poison in tea ...

[Reserve buildbat]

OCHYZHYMAYAE, citizens! But the "hole" left to the left of the gun! But it’s not Russian lapotniki who did it, but enlightened “pans”!
Someone thinks that there are too many screams about this "hole", which, by the way, was closed at the B3 2016 of the year. Maybe it wasn’t that easy, huh? Maybe the driver also always wanted to live, and at least some kind of entry-exit except "under the breech through AZ" was also wanted?

[avros]

and charging recumbent ??? an anecdote tank, completely disgraced by this relic of the Stone Age, this new Polish-Lithuanian creature.

[ssergn]

Quote: Partyzan

it is such a de-communization.

Greetings Volodya dill decommunization -

Gorgeous !!!

[NUR]

Pretty man just like a Ferrari turned out.