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SpaceX launched a secret warship into orbit

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The US company SpaceX has launched the secret ship Boeing X-37 (X-37B Orbital Test Vehicle or OTV) in the interests of the Pentagon, reports Lenta.ru report company message.

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According to the report, "the OTV-5 mission launched 7 September 2017 of the year on a medium-sized Falcon 9 rocket from the launch site at Cape Canaveral."

The probability of a successful launch was estimated at 50%, so SpaceX specifically conducted the launch before hurricane Irma reaches the spaceport.

The objectives of the flight of the Boeing X-37 are unknown, but it is believed that "the mini-shuttle is designed to work out the destruction of space satellites, and one of its goals is to test the economic effectiveness of such actions compared to missile elimination," the material says.

The publication reminds that the Boeing X-37 is able to go into orbit and land in the same way as the Space Shuttle series. Shuttle length - 8,83 meter, wingspan - 4,6 meter. At the disposal of the Pentagon there are two Boeing X-37, the starts of each of them alternate.

The previous four launches of the Boeing X-37 were made on a ULA Atlas 5 rocket (United Launch Alliance). In just seven years, the Boeing X-37 spent 2085 days in Earth orbit.
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  1. Tusv
    Tusv 8 September 2017 13: 13
    0
    As I hope that this pepelats is atmospheric or will enter by landing into the air borders of Russia.
    1. Vend
      Vend 8 September 2017 13: 22
      +6
      The ship is so secret that the launch raises big doubts laughing
    2. igorj 51
      igorj 51 8 September 2017 14: 05
      +9
      How do I hope that this pepelats is atmospheric

      Have you forgotten how to read ..? HOW can a spacecraft be atmospheric ..!?
      or will enter upon landing in the air borders of Russia.

      This unit starts and lands in the United States. With what fright will he enter the airspace of Russia upon landing.?
      1. Tusv
        Tusv 8 September 2017 14: 38
        +1
        Quote: igorj 51
        Have you forgotten how to read ..? HOW can a spacecraft be atmospheric ..!?

        In the light. The Yankees still consider Shepard to be the first cosmonaut. Normal flight in the upper atmosphere. We have a different definition of a spacecraft with the Americans
        1. johnson glenn
          johnson glenn 8 September 2017 21: 13
          +3
          The ISS is also formally in the upper layers of the atmosphere (thermosphere), and if we consider space as a pure vacuum, then the Apollo 8 crew was the first to fly there in 1968 to fly around the moon (without landing)
    3. svp67
      svp67 8 September 2017 19: 50
      +2
      Quote: Tusv
      . You can knock down

      It is necessary to revive the "Spiral", or else it’s lame, something Americans in space
      1. Tatar 174
        Tatar 174 9 September 2017 07: 28
        0
        It's time to accidentally test the electronic warfare system and accidentally knock down the control ...
  2. Herculesic
    Herculesic 8 September 2017 13: 14
    +4
    Is it really impossible to bring it from orbit, or vice versa, to raise the orbit and drown out its “stuffing"? These launches are not good for us.
  3. dsm100
    dsm100 8 September 2017 13: 15
    +2
    And we at one time “killed” a similar program ...
  4. Bronevick
    Bronevick 8 September 2017 13: 19
    +2
    Is SpiceX capable of lifting something heavy?
    1. Großer feldherr
      Großer feldherr 8 September 2017 13: 53
      +5
      Carrying capacity as a proton
    2. Professor
      Professor 8 September 2017 14: 07
      +10
      Quote: Bronevick
      Is SpiceX capable of lifting something heavy?

      So everyone knows that without a trampoline, Americans are not able to put anything into orbit. wink And Falcon 9 turns out to be able to output:
      Capacity
      Payload to LEO
      FT: 22,800 kg
      v1.1: 13,150 kg
      v1.0: 10,450 kg
      Payload to
      GTO
      FT: 8,300 kg expendable
      Xnumx kg reusable
      v1.1: 4,850 kg
      v1.0: 4,540 kg
      1. Kurasava
        Kurasava 9 September 2017 07: 49
        0
        Professor ka is usually a general practitioner laughing Their trampoline engines are called RD-180 and yes they cannot without them. https://lenta.ru/news/2017/09/04/rd180/

        https://www.wsj.com/articles/pentagon-faces-delay
        s-in-shift-away-from-russian-rocket-engines-15045
        26402
        1. Professor
          Professor 9 September 2017 08: 58
          +2
          Quote: Kurasava
          Professor ka is usually a general practitioner laughing Their trampoline engines are called RD-180 and yes they cannot without them. https://lenta.ru/news/2017/09/04/rd180/

          https://www.wsj.com/articles/pentagon-faces-delay
          s-in-shift-away-from-russian-rocket-engines-15045
          26402

          Learn materiel.
          https://lenta.ru/news/2014/04/29/batut/
          Rogozin advised the United States to use trampolines instead of “Unions” to deliver astronauts to the ISS
          “After analyzing the sanctions against our space industry, I propose the United States to deliver its astronauts to the ISS using trampoline", The vice premier wrote in his microblog on Twitter on Tuesday, April 29.
          1. Kurasava
            Kurasava 9 September 2017 09: 01
            +2
            Oh ..... Jew Sokolov lol how you are predicted Of course I know about this statement of Rogozin. But I’m sure that you know the meaning of the word metaphor. So the trampoline in the form of RD-180 for Americans is still relevant.
            1. Professor
              Professor 9 September 2017 09: 07
              +1
              Quote: Kurasava
              Oh ..... Jew Sokolov lol how you are predicted Of course I know about this statement of Rogozin. But I’m sure that you know the meaning of the word metaphor. So the trampoline in the form of RD-180 is still relevant for Americans.

              Our Jew sat in a puddle in earnings in Germany. The next time, do not write nonsense and learn the materiel, but today I will not feed you anymore.
              1. Kurasava
                Kurasava 9 September 2017 09: 17
                +1
                Our Jew sat in a puddle in earnings in Germany. The next time, do not write nonsense and learn the materiel, but today I will not feed you anymore.
                And again, predictably go to the personalities of the Sokolov? And want to wishful thinking? And run away from the battlefield again? laughing
              2. Kurasava
                Kurasava 9 September 2017 09: 25
                +3
                And by the way, Sokolov, you see that Rogozin - "Rogozin advised the United States to use trampolines instead of" Unions "to deliver astronauts to the ISS" - right? SpaceX, after all, people haven’t yet launched anywhere right? And on September 04.09.2017, 30, the United States announced the purchase of another 180 RD-XNUMX engines, which means Rogozin was right, at least for now, Americans are launching people on the ISS only in the Unions, right? Well, which of us needs to learn MATchast? And who then sat in a puddle ??? lol
    3. Muvka
      Muvka 8 September 2017 14: 23
      +2
      And where is it written that what the PH brought out is heavy? Poke me. As I understand it, this LV brought 5 tons to a maximum height of 750 km. The proton takes from 6 to 7 tons to much greater heights.
      1. Blackmokona
        Blackmokona 8 September 2017 16: 46
        +1
        Intelsat 35e 6761 kg, launched on GPO.
        Intelsat 35e was launched on July 5, 2017 at 23:38 UTC, with the Falcon 9 launch vehicle, from the launch complex LC-39A at the Kennedy Space Center. The satellite was launched into a supersynchronous geo-transition orbit with parameters 296 × 42 742 km, inclination 25,85 °, 32 minutes after launch
  5. Olaf Uksimae
    Olaf Uksimae 8 September 2017 13: 37
    +1
    Irma Canaveral didn’t have time to cover, well, Nitsche post factum according to Key West and Canaveral also nitsche
  6. alibabaewitch.vasilij2018
    alibabaewitch.vasilij2018 8 September 2017 13: 39
    +10
    laughter laughter, but they go ahead. in the development of new technologies.
    1. XXXIII
      XXXIII 10 September 2017 12: 38
      +1
      in mastering new technologies.
      What new technologies? I didn’t hear what was new there! hi
  7. Forester
    Forester 8 September 2017 13: 56
    +4
    "We have such missiles, but we won’t tell you about them!" (with) wassat drinks
  8. Großer feldherr
    Großer feldherr 8 September 2017 13: 56
    +2
    “The mini-shuttle is designed to work out the destruction of space satellites, and one of its goals is to verify the cost-effectiveness of such actions in comparison with rocket launch vehicles”

    When people do something, they have a motive for this. What could be the motive to make a reusable, and even descent ship to destroy satellites? Laughter and only, even funnier is only the version with the placement of nuclear weapons in its compartments, which will fall on our heads on the "day of judgment."
    And again, the feasibility study, what exactly do people need to lower from orbit? All satellites are disposable and become obsolete before they become unusable for astronauts (although human astronautics in itself is just an experiment without practical application and with a degree of expediency) a hundred times easier and cheaper to make a disposable cast-iron ball and not to steam.
    1. Pan_hrabio
      Pan_hrabio 8 September 2017 17: 03
      +5
      We don’t yet find out the real reason, but still the fact remains: the United States is finding money to operate two mini-shuttles. This gives them at least the fact that with (for example) the invention of a new type of engine, which greatly simplifies the exit into space, they will probably be the first to make serious manned spacecraft of a new type simply because they did not interrupt their work in this direction.
    2. Topgun
      Topgun 8 September 2017 19: 15
      0
      why is the version with vigorous loafs funny for you? are there any arguments?
      just the only reasonable purpose of this apparatus is nuclear weapons - because over time, nuclear weapons require maintenance.
      It is not rational to take pictures of the earth from this apparatus because for a long time films that need to be lowered to the ground have not been used.
      stealing satellites - I don’t think that for Americans where they design all the chips and create equipment for their production, there is an interest in this - they control this issue on the earth.
      Repair of satellites, as you rightly noted, is also not rational - they are disposable and while they are in space (10-15 years), electronics is making significant progress - the satellite will return to the earth obsolete
  9. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 8 September 2017 15: 20
    +11
    This is the 13th Falcon 9 launch this year. Again traditionally with the return of the 1st stage.
    All launches are successful. Musk launches both commercial satellites and the military now. And trucks to the international station. Confidently crowds Boeing Lockheed, Arian and Roscosmos.
    1. spirit
      spirit 8 September 2017 16: 12
      +2
      Will heavy start this year? Musk seemed to promise a test run before the end of the year
      1. Blackmokona
        Blackmokona 8 September 2017 16: 46
        +1
        He promises to let it go in November.
    2. Kurasava
      Kurasava 9 September 2017 07: 36
      +2
      Where is the returning step in this run? As far as we know, only 2 or 3 stages flew repeatedly, and then after the second launch they became completely unsuitable. And the promised savings turned from 30% to 8%, and against this background, the Americans signed a contract to purchase another 30 RD-180s. Yes, this is undoubtedly the success of Ilona. laughing
      1. Professor
        Professor 9 September 2017 09: 03
        +4
        Quote: Kurasava
        Where is the returning step in this run?

        We open our eyes and look at the returning step. Where are the steps? where is the step? shit. Here she is. wassat
        1. Kurasava
          Kurasava 9 September 2017 09: 28
          +1
          It is the one that has already flown, the B / U stage of Sokolov, B / U, open our eyes and learn to read the Professor again in Russian tongue
          1. Blackmokona
            Blackmokona 9 September 2017 16: 03
            0
            The customer determines whether he will change the contract, and the contracts are signed for launches over many years.
      2. XXXIII
        XXXIII 10 September 2017 12: 40
        +1
        it is known that only 2 or 3 steps flew repeatedly, and then after the second launch they became completely unsuitable
        Yes sir! Maxssss raised a lot of dust ..... laughing
  10. spirit
    spirit 8 September 2017 17: 25
    +4

    Here is the launch from start to finish, who cares) Musk decided to hike his military contracts as well)
    1. svp67
      svp67 8 September 2017 17: 27
      +1
      Quote: spirit
      Musk also decided to hike his military contracts)

      And only SO he can get out of the debt hole. So that everything is reasonable ...
      1. Blackmokona
        Blackmokona 8 September 2017 19: 01
        +2
        Where does the infa about the pit come from? Forbes annually adds billions to him.
        1. svp67
          svp67 8 September 2017 19: 15
          +3
          Quote: BlackMokona
          Where does the infa about the pit come from? Forbes annually adds billions to him.

          To him personally, but not to the SpaceX project, which is not only unprofitable, but is also being done on huge loans ...
          1. Blackmokona
            Blackmokona 8 September 2017 19: 47
            +1
            SpaceX is his private personal company that does not publish its financial statements, where does infa about debts come from?
            1. svp67
              svp67 8 September 2017 20: 01
              +3
              Quote: BlackMokona
              SpaceX is his private personal company that does not publish its financial statements, where does infa about debts come from?

              What world do you live in? And she pays WHAT taxes?
              The Wall Street Journal published a review of SpaceX's financials for 2011-2015, citing internal company documentation.

              Schedule that WSJ published based on SpaceX financial documents from the beginning of 2016. Yellow shows the company's revenue from space launches, blue - operating profit. On the left scale are billions of dollars.
              In order to be profitable, this company needs to make at least 12 FULLY SUCCESSFUL launches per year, in case of the slightest failure, the number of starts increases
              1. Blackmokona
                Blackmokona 8 September 2017 20: 28
                +1
                1. He does not have small incomes from launches.
                2. As we see, from 2011-2014 the company was profitable, while not making 12 launches per year.
                The first time she made 12 starts, this is 2017. Coordinate at least your sources of information
                3.Now 13 successful launch in a row.
                4.And where are the huge debts from? Minus 300 million in 2015, for a company valued at 20 billion, a penny.
                1. svp67
                  svp67 8 September 2017 20: 34
                  +4
                  Quote: BlackMokona
                  As we see, from 2011-2014 the company was profitable, while not making 12 launches per year.

                  And then did she launch something into space? Profit from sales of patents on certain technologies.
                  Quote: BlackMokona
                  And yet, where are the huge debts from?

                  What is investor money you know? They were invested in production and they still haven’t paid off, even with 20 successful launches, that’s the debts ... As long as the company’s shares are on the rise, it can count on investors, and these are mainly funds, but if they fall, these funds will begin to exit project and "plugging this financial hole" will be very difficult, if at all possible.
                  1. Blackmokona
                    Blackmokona 9 September 2017 00: 04
                    0
                    1. Launched.
                    And what technologies? Then everyone spat on his tech, go to the forum space news, the theme of Marilyn, at first everyone spits on him.
                    2. SpaceX has no shares, this is IP Mask. He put his personal ones there.
                    1. Kurasava
                      Kurasava 9 September 2017 07: 59
                      +1
                      Camarad. Ilon is an American who drank a dope and he will be pulled by the ears by force and give budget money and crush all possible scandals (with a technician who said that the steps are new each time and not the ones that have already flown) because he is a zitz ​​chairman and is needed for now, (but even when all these Hyperloops, Tesla and Dragons are burned out, he’ll hardly sit down of course) to cut budget money, and it would not be profitable and expensive and do not pay for his project, the Americans will launch rockets because they have already spent the money and because " prestige, "just like it was with the shuttle. Only with Ilon is it more convenient and safer to cut money. None of his projects makes a profit, not one, despite the fact that he is financed and fed as soon as possible, even the area for the factory for Tesla was given for nothing and they built a way for him for budgetary funds and still in minuses.
                      1. Blackmokona
                        Blackmokona 9 September 2017 15: 57
                        0
                        What is unproven cosyrology?
                2. Kurasava
                  Kurasava 9 September 2017 08: 03
                  +1
                  He has a small income from launches.
              2. voyaka uh
                voyaka uh 8 September 2017 20: 32
                +3
                “In order to be profitable, this company needs to produce at least 12 FULLY SUCCESSFUL launches per year” ///

                So she already has 13 successful this year, and another 4 months ahead. And a portfolio of orders from satellite operators for 2 years in advance.
                Everything is good. fellow
                1. Kurasava
                  Kurasava 9 September 2017 08: 00
                  +1
                  Ilon is not profitable anywhere, actually so far all his projects are unprofitable, Tesla is the most vivid example of this.
                  1. tamnun
                    tamnun 9 September 2017 08: 04
                    +2
                    Quote: Kurasava
                    Ilon is not profitable anywhere, actually so far all his projects are unprofitable, Tesla is the most vivid example of this.

                    Does he suck money out of thin air?
                    Where did the money come from, Zin?
                    1. Kurasava
                      Kurasava 9 September 2017 08: 05
                      +2
                      read above my comments and comments of camarade svp67, well, use the Internet yourself good
                      1. tamnun
                        tamnun 9 September 2017 08: 17
                        +3
                        Quote: Kurasava
                        read above my comments and comments of camarade svp67, well, use the Internet yourself

                        Do you think that any company must be profitable from the first year?
                        Payback, have you heard that word? Especially large expenses are spent on research and development, production organization, etc. etc.
                        Then then - all the cream is yours. and SpaceX perfectly demonstrates this with the dynamics of the number of launches, the seizure of a market segment and the number of orders for years to come.
                        In your opinion, exploration of a field, construction of a plant, infrastructure and everything related to new production (the cost of which is included in the financial report in the expense item) - makes profit from the first day? wink
                        Let me remind you - profit is income minus expenses wink
                    2. Normal ok
                      Normal ok 9 September 2017 12: 48
                      +2
                      Quote: tamnun
                      Quote: Kurasava
                      Ilon is not profitable anywhere, actually so far all his projects are unprofitable, Tesla is the most vivid example of this.

                      Does he suck money out of thin air?
                      Where did the money come from, Zin?

                      I am surprised at how Kurosawa and his ilk did not think of declaring that American spaceships are a complete fiction laughing That would be so patriotic.
                      1. Kurasava
                        Kurasava 9 September 2017 16: 13
                        +2
                        This is because, unlike you, we are studying the subject, as the professor likes to write. You will find at least one profitable project at the Mask, show. In the meantime .... saw Shura saw ...... tongue
    2. Alex Justice
      Alex Justice 9 September 2017 16: 10
      +1
      The beauty! Well done!
      And they buy Russian engines to lull vigilance laughing
  11. Old26
    Old26 8 September 2017 17: 27
    +5
    Quote: Tusv
    In the light. The Yankees still consider Shepard to be the first cosmonaut. Normal flight in the upper atmosphere. We have a different definition of a spacecraft with the Americans

    The first AMERICAN astronaut, but by no means the first in the world. Both we and the Americans have the same definition of a spacecraft. But his flight was suborbital, not orbital. And after Gagarin. So you don’t need to invent what they consider Shepard to be the first astronaut in the world

    Quote: Herkulesich
    Is it really impossible to bring it from orbit, or vice versa, to raise the orbit and drown out its “stuffing"? These launches are not good for us.

    Give it a try. But then you should not complain if they do the same with our device

    Quote: Bronevick
    Is SpiceX capable of lifting something heavy?

    Of course not. Nothing more than 22,8 tons per Earth orbit
    1. Kurasava
      Kurasava 9 September 2017 08: 38
      +2
      Of course not. Nothing more than 22,8 tons per Earth orbit
      Why did you bend my friend. Is not too much laughing
      1. ZVO
        ZVO 10 September 2017 20: 54
        0
        Quote: Kurasava
        Of course not. Nothing more than 22,8 tons per Earth orbit
        Why did you bend my friend. Is not too much laughing


        You so regularly boast about your study of materiel that you can’t even believe it, have you really loused?
        Materiel remained unexplored?
  12. Kurasava
    Kurasava 9 September 2017 08: 35
    +1
    tamnun,
    Well, as it were, in fact, it was time to make a profit, for example, Tesla she had already been since 2003 ...... and still nothing. The thing is laughing that he is presented as a private trader who has it all on his own, on “hard-earned" money and this is not so, state money and huge benefits, not one private trader can not stand such a number of years of losses in a row and not thousands or even tens of thousands but hundreds of millions. The number of launches can be at least 100 per day, where is the profit of Zin? It's time ........ dynamics, dynamics only proves that they fly more often, that's when the "green" numbers in the balance will be then ...... maybe. In the meantime, the Americans will buy another 30 RD-180, probably not casual Zin? yes
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 9 September 2017 15: 59
      0
      Read Tesla's financial report, attention to assets and liabilities.
      1. Kurasava
        Kurasava 9 September 2017 16: 16
        +1
        So that's why I write dear and you can also familiarize yourself. Here above, even one camarade laid out already.
        1. Blackmokona
          Blackmokona 9 September 2017 16: 52
          0
          So according to this report, assets are growing faster than liabilities.
          1. Kurasava
            Kurasava 9 September 2017 16: 59
            +2
            Well, the stock has grown, but it’s the air and the possible expectations of the shareholders with real profit have nothing in common. But in reality, every sold car can cost the company -4000 for the last quarter and minus for the last quarter, too, more than 300 lyam. Moreover, disruptions of all terms both in sales and in increasing production, and besides, the number of machines produced is simply ridiculous. Just write in a search engine - Tesla’s losses and see for yourself.
            1. Blackmokona
              Blackmokona 9 September 2017 17: 15
              0
              You are confusing assets and capitalization. These are different things; stocks have no relation to assets.
  13. Old26
    Old26 9 September 2017 10: 24
    +2
    Quote: Kurasava
    Why did you bend my friend. Is not too much

    No. See for yourself.
    http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_lau/falcon-9.htm
    Version v1,2 was launched. (No. 41 in the table) launches. In the table with the loads, we see that in low Earth orbit, this version raises 22,8 tons. At the geo-transitional - 5300, on the interplanetary 4020 kg.
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 9 September 2017 16: 02
      0
      Your numbers are a little wrong
    2. Kurasava
      Kurasava 9 September 2017 16: 14
      0
      aaaaa this is in a low orbit, I thought ....... then it is quite possible yes, but nothing surprising.
  14. Old26
    Old26 9 September 2017 18: 10
    0
    Quote: BlackMokona
    Your numbers are a little wrong

    Yes, then I looked. The table is inaccurate. 5,3 tons per geoponder at the return stage.
  15. XXXIII
    XXXIII 10 September 2017 13: 17
    +3
    Max is the advertising person of the company, business and money are given to him by higher people, he wouldn’t pull it! In general, he sells ideas (buy the first ticket for $ 150 million into orbit), you need to buy it somehow. wink
    1. Kurasava
      Kurasava 10 September 2017 13: 22
      +2
      Here! Here I’m trying to explain the same thing to some people, for which they accuse me of conspiracy theology, although everything is in the public domain. And nobody ever hid it.
      1. XXXIII
        XXXIII 10 September 2017 13: 39
        +2
        Yes read your komenty, all on the topic! drinks
        1. Kurasava
          Kurasava 10 September 2017 13: 53
          +1
          Thank. I used to try to bomb links to various sources, articles, statements of my own (Ilonich), but people just want to believe, I’m not against electric cars or reusable missiles, and it’s not about the Americans, would anyone of ours take such a fraud would also write. But often (what a sin it is, it’s like that) people want to believe and not pay attention to figures or facts ......... saw Shura saw, they are gold lol
          1. XXXIII
            XXXIII 10 September 2017 14: 04
            +2
            would any of ours take such a fraud
            Yes, from the very beginning he was doing this, as it was necessary to push expensive Tesla machines. Yes, the development is good, only even in America they were not bought much, there were current operating time (this is good). That elevator to space is also a good idea, soon they will probably be collecting money! laughing
            1. Kurasava
              Kurasava 10 September 2017 14: 10
              +1
              The hypertube, too, not seriously, without irony, the idea of ​​a super 100% for cargo transportation is generally excellent, only here is the implementation ...... by the way, as a child I read a fantastic science fiction novel about how the USSR built such a tunnel in the water column from Kamchatka to Alaska and the train was on an electro-magnetic cushion, like the Chinese have now, the novel was written in the 30s and events took place in the 50s ....... ehhhhhh if not war! Maybe in space already in the 40s flew.
              1. XXXIII
                XXXIII 10 September 2017 14: 15
                +2
                .... ehhhhhh if not war! Maybe in space already in the 40s flew.
                Yes, the war broke a lot ...... There are a lot of fantastic ideas, but charlatans didn’t get any less !!!