Poland and Australia ordered the Russian gun "Saiga-12"

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Izhmash (Izhevsk Machine-Building Plant) received new contracts, including a contract for the Saiga-12 rifle, to which America had previously shown great interest. During the march of Nuremberg in March from 9 to 12 in the German Nuremberg weapons IWA & Outdoor Classics took an interest in the Saiga-12 gun for the law enforcement agencies of Australia and Poland, ordering some products in various designs for their own tests.

Thus, the Australian law enforcement forces chose to modify the Saiga-12 smooth-bore gun under the traumatic cartridge. Representatives of "Izhmash" also report that Central American countries, which previously ordered weapons through intermediaries in the United States of America, are also interested in Izhevsk weapons.

During the exhibition, Izhmash management meetings were held with partners from France, Switzerland, Great Britain, Greece, Slovakia, the Czech Republic, Germany, Norway, as well as with representatives of the CIS countries, Canada, Pakistan, South Africa, and Malta. The press service of the company notes that many "formed" orders for the supply of smooth-bore and rifled guns.

In total, the exhibition, held in Germany, "Izhmash" presented 63 products, including 18 new types of small arms. According to the press service of the plant, smooth-bore rifles “Saiga-12” with a Lancaster drill, products designed for camouflage, a traumatic pistol made on the basis of the Vityaz submachine gun, small-caliber rifles for cartridge .22 LR.

Earlier there were reports that in January of this year, the Izhevsk Machine-Building Plant began to supply smooth-bore semi-automatic shotguns with the “Saiga-12” store supply to American police units. During the debriefing of the exhibition in Nuremberg, Germany, Maxim Kuziuk, the general director of Izhmash, announced that the company had increased the supply of semi-automatic Saiga rifles to America by 50%. According to Maxim Kuzyuk, Izhmash’s partners from America visited the plant’s booth and confirmed the huge demand for Saiga rifles and hunting carbines in the United States.

Carabiner "Saiga-12" is used during amateur and commercial hunting for poultry, small and medium animals in areas with different climates. It has a smooth barrel with a chamber, which makes it possible to use bullet and shotgun cartridges, including the “Magnum”.
Reliable work of automation, high precision manufacturing of the barrel, high accuracy of shooting for one hundred meters - these are the distinctive features of Saygi-12. In addition, the "Saiga-12" is the best weapon for the forces of law and order in the conditions of the city due to the rapid change of the store, the semi-automatic recharge mode, as well as the large capacity of the store.

OAO NPO Izhmash is engaged in the development and production of a wide range of civilian and special products, including Nikonov and Kalashnikov assault rifles, grenade launchers, sniper rifles, submachine guns, maintenance equipment and guided weapons repair, aviation weapons, complexes of guided artillery weapons, as well as special and serial machines and tools.

The company was founded in 1807 year.
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  1. +8
    15 March 2012 19: 24
    A good thing will always find its buyer. Good luck to Izhmash in promoting its products.
    1. +2
      15 March 2012 19: 52
      Saiga is an excellent weapon with an interior worked out on Kalash ... It has long been appreciated by our security agencies ... that's just the police haven’t scratched it yet ...
  2. in4ser
    +7
    15 March 2012 19: 35
    Well, not surprisingly, many heard about the quality of Russian weapons before they were born :)
    I would like to add that "Saigu 12" is also purchased by the US police !!!
  3. +5
    15 March 2012 19: 45
    Great trunk, I have it myself. Satisfied in every way, thanks to the Izhevsk people!
    1. nnnnnnnnn
      +4
      15 March 2012 19: 58
      Quote: Tersky
      Great trunk, I have it myself. Satisfied in every way, thanks to the Izhevsk people!

      Totally agree with you!!! bought four years ago, satisfied request
  4. +2
    15 March 2012 20: 13
    Quote: nnnnnnnnn
    bought four years ago
    Then they are our same age laughing
    1. nnnnnnnnn
      +1
      15 March 2012 20: 51
      [quote = Tersky] Then they are our same age laughing drinks well then for that drinks
  5. +2
    15 March 2012 20: 24
    But it really really pleases! smile Moreover, smooth-bore semi-automatic machines with a military "bias" are a relatively new direction in the work of our gunsmiths ...
    Izhevtsy new successes in their work !!!
  6. -2
    15 March 2012 20: 41
    I don’t like smooth bore ... Razrezny taxis ...
    1. nnnnnnnnn
      +3
      15 March 2012 20: 52
      Quote: PSih2097
      I don’t like a smoothbore ... Razrezny taxis ..
      each has its own taste and color laughing
    2. Hans grohman
      +7
      15 March 2012 20: 52
      Quote: PSih2097
      I don’t like smooth bore ... Razrezny taxis ...

      What else to expect from you, remembering your yesterday's statement "an airsoft drive will be worse than trauma" wassat

      And actually according to the article: it is very good that Izhmash products began to pay such attention - it pleases. Although for me the Boar-12 is better, but this is already, as they say IMHO.
  7. Shohmansur
    +4
    15 March 2012 21: 06
    However! Small arms are bought by law enforcement agencies of foreign countries. However! Our structures claim that Russian weapons are inferior to foreign counterparts. However! Some of them are lying !!!
    1. marauder
      +1
      15 March 2012 22: 08
      The answer is price.

      in saigas, the cartridge sometimes warps. when firing shots, accuracy is poor.
      greatly inferior to the usual two-muzzle. hunters do not like her.
      the American police saigas locks kicks out. (according to the police themselves)

      Saigu12 is loved by survivalists and self-defenders. who for some reason cannot buy Saigu MK 7.62x39.
      1. +1
        15 March 2012 22: 53
        I do not like the saiga MK 7.62x39. I have a Boar 9.3x62. Sniping is a cool thing.
        1. ZHORA
          -1
          16 March 2012 01: 15
          HA HA HA when this Boar 9.3x62 began to beat in 1 MOA?!? This is for sniping))))
    2. 0
      16 March 2012 03: 05
      Quote: Shohmansur
      However! Small arms are bought by law enforcement agencies of foreign countries.


      I imagine the reaction in Russia if our Ministry of Internal Affairs decided to massively purchase weapons in the United States ... what would be happening here on the forum is simply scary to imagine ...
      1. -1
        16 March 2012 12: 16
        Quote: Krilion
        I represent the reaction in Russia if our Ministry of Internal Affairs decided to massively purchase weapons in the United States ..

        This is for sure, screams of betrayal and "wired chips" that at the most crucial moment the shooting of criminals would harm Russia, there would be more roof. laughing
        By the way, amers have a pistol "Beretta" for service in the army. The same screams were how the army was armed with foreign weapons, but nothing was armed and no buzz.
    3. KASKAD
      -1
      April 12 2012 14: 44
      Quote: Shohmansur
      However! Small arms are bought by law enforcement agencies of foreign countries. However! Our structures claim that Russian weapons are inferior to foreign counterparts. However! Some of them are lying !!!


      Yes, no one is just lying that the weapons that go to the US market are selected piece by piece and undergo some quality control, and the rest of the weapons with crooked trunks crookedly planted with gas chambers crooked flies and other amenities that IZHMash is famous for goes to the domestic market of Russia, and Saiga is in the US about 500-600 $, for comparison, in Moscow for saiga they ask for 2-2,5 times more than in the USA. Therefore, people who know a little about weapons when they don’t buy IzhMash products, especially since there is a Hammer plant whose products are also delivered to the United States, but unlike Izhevsk, the quality is equally high and goes to Russia, as far as this is possible for domestic weapons. Laugh, but on Izh Masha there are actually captured German machines and they are involved in production.
      1. 0
        April 20 2012 03: 36
        I have everything direct except the factory sight
  8. +3
    15 March 2012 21: 09
    Quote: PSih2097
    I don’t like smooth bore ... Razrezny taxis ...
    You won’t go to quail or snipe with a rifled one, it’s like a fly howitzer ... Yes
  9. +3
    15 March 2012 21: 09
    Quote: Hans Grohman
    What else to expect from you, remembering your yesterday's statement "an airsoft drive will be worse than trauma"

    hahaha. Violently plus.
  10. +1
    15 March 2012 21: 11
    Shohmansur,
    Saiga -12, this is a flat-barreled hunting carbine ....
  11. +4
    15 March 2012 21: 22
    If potential US competitors recognized the quality of Russian weapons, then comments are unnecessary.
  12. bremest
    +3
    15 March 2012 21: 31
    The success of the Saiga-12 is not just the success of a successful hunting rifle, but the success of the Kalashnikov mechanism. I am sure that with a competent approach, our country can repeat its success in other types of weapons. There is no need to reinvent the wheel, but it is necessary to improve the platform of the Kalashnikov assault rifle, its barrel, cartridges, optics, electronics, awnings ...
  13. 755962
    +1
    15 March 2012 21: 39
    Small arms are bought by law enforcement agencies of foreign countries.
    Obviously not going to hunt.
  14. 0
    15 March 2012 21: 51
    Grenader,
    Well, the Americans probably gritted their teeth signed a contract.
  15. +3
    15 March 2012 22: 15
    A good tactical shotgun. I have one. An excellent self-defense weapon. I wouldn’t take it for hunting, it’s hard. And the classic hunters call us "machine gunners". Although there is no comrade in taste and color. The cool barrel, as already described above, is the success of the Russian military-industrial complex and personally of Mikhail Kalashnikov. I like the possibility of using cartridges 12x70 and 12x76. I am delighted.
  16. +2
    15 March 2012 22: 16
    Quote: Maroder
    in saigas, the cartridge sometimes warps. when firing shots, accuracy is poor.
    both shortcomings are insignificant, for all the time there was one bias, and by accuracy, I never use purchased cartridges, I charge myself ..
    1. +1
      15 March 2012 22: 39
      Also addicted to self-loading cartridges. You can play with the amount of gunpowder. It turns out interesting options. Skews have never been. I didn’t do peeling. Rather, skews occur on 410 and 20 calibers.
      1. Dimani
        0
        16 March 2012 11: 39
        I have 410C ... since '97 ....... there has never been a skew ..
        1. -1
          16 March 2012 12: 22
          Quote: Dimani
          I have 410C ... since '97 ....... there has never been a skew ..

          Lucky. I have 410K-04 (such a short one), so I had to work hard on the file with it. And then I prefer to ammo the Barnaul cartridges.
  17. 0
    15 March 2012 23: 03
    Accuracy in fraction is bad ... Excuse me, how? Why a shotgun is good, you shoot roughly speaking in the direction ... no matter what, and what’s especially good is not to reload, the clips are enough to solve ANY problem ...
    1. 77bor1973
      0
      24 May 2012 18: 26
      but for me, good accuracy is not good, I like it like from a `` Katyusha '' - on `` squares ''!
  18. +1
    15 March 2012 23: 23
    Izhmash products are popular all over the world, except for the native ministry of defense
    1. -1
      16 March 2012 12: 25
      Quote: sergey69
      Izhmash products are popular all over the world, except for the native ministry of defense

      And thank God. There were attempts to use Saigu-12 in combat conditions in Grozny. Anyone interested can find materials on this subject. In general, they decided prudently to abandon this miracle in favor of the good old AK. A shotgun is not a weapon for combat conditions.
    2. 0
      16 March 2012 21: 42
      There’s some kind of strangeness in this contract. Foreign cars have their pump-trunks not bad. Not for the collection variety, however, these. Something unclean in the Swedish kingdom of crooked mirrors. The bourgeois just do nothing.
  19. +1
    15 March 2012 23: 40
    Quote: sergey69
    Izhmash products are popular all over the world, except for the native ministry of defense

    The native Ministry of Defense was captured by p ... bargains.
  20. ZHORA
    +1
    16 March 2012 01: 11
    So-so a rifle, not everyone eats ammunition, often skews, low resource plus only a low price ... in the West they take it as exotic thanks to the legendary AK brand, and even then they usually outsource their details ... Those who shoot a lot and for a while Namely, the guys from IPSC do not like Saiga a lot of delays, prefer the Benelli M4 as well as the US Marine Corps where the Benelli M4 is in service, but this is for those who have money, well, but who have little guns for the poor - Saiga 12 ..

    By the way, "Vepr 12" made taking into account the recommendations of IPSC shooters is better but more expensive ....
    1. 0
      16 March 2012 06: 19
      You again. I already feel joyful when you are on the site, the conversation will turn out.
    2. Dimani
      -1
      16 March 2012 11: 54
      and even as a rule they outsource their details


      laughing Well, firstly, they don’t outsource it, but they tune it before writing, at least ask what these words mean.
      Secondly, saiga’s delays are mainly due to the cartridge. Saiga shoots perfectly with ammunition of the western manufacturer. Therefore, many, because of the high cost of such cartridges, prefer to equip themselves.
      About the corps of the marine corps, you generally debated nonsense who will equip your army, in the person of the marine corps, with the weapons of a potential enemy.

      You are absolutely not in the "topic" ... laughing
    3. 0
      16 March 2012 12: 28
      Quote: JORA
      By the way, "Vepr 12" made taking into account the recommendations of the IPSC shooters is better but more expensive ..

      And safer on Saigt, and it seems like a receiver there is better, since it is done on the basis of not the AK, but the RPK in the Vyatka Polyana. But, heavy, heavy. And on weak cartridges 0,28 is not recharged. The rest is a thing!
  21. 0
    16 March 2012 06: 22
    Of course, there are better weapons than Saiga, and they have already been talked about today. But do not forget that the Saxon weapon is considered one of the best, and maybe the best, lost to Russian weapons on its territory.
    1. ZHORA
      -1
      16 March 2012 12: 08
      I am generally against semiautomatic devices in 12 gauge, demanding for cartridges. Any "pump" eats all cartridges with any weights and more reliable. I wouldn’t be so categorical about Western weapons. They develop with arrows those directions that are either not developed at all in Russia, or later by Russian designers are inherited, but later, for the purposes of military-patriotic education, they are inflated as the very best in the world.
      And now for the landmarks:
      - the first single machine gun (MG42 excellent machine gun and exceeded the Soviet);
      - the first submachine gun under an intermediate cartridge (StG 44 in the USSR there was no such thing, and later AK 47 was inferior to it in accuracy);
      - the transition to caliber 5,6 (the USSR inherited the USA);
      - The appearance of large-caliber sniper rifles (Although in the USSR there were improvisations on this subject in the Second World War, they were of a makeshift nature and were used occasionally);
      - Development of new ammunition for both sniper and small arms, including arrow-shaped and sleeveless (Steyr ACR with arrow-shaped was not adopted by the United States only because of a very inhumane effect on the target, terrible wound channels were obtained);
      - development of sighting devices of the LCC, collimator, holographic, optical sights (everything appeared in the West is also better reliable better);
      - development and use of guilty grenades, grenade launchers (the USSR was inherited by the West, and the possibility of using rifle grenades was realized only in the promising AK12);
      - new materials and production technology polymers, etc. (I’m not talking about experiments, but about finished technology in the West have always been the first);
      - the use of new materials in the production of ammunition and lubricants (molybdenum disulfide);

      and a bunch of examples that will show and prove the backwardness of Russian design and technological thought ...
      1. 0
        16 March 2012 12: 36
        Quote: JORA
        the first single machine gun (MG42 is an excellent machine gun and exceeded the Soviet ones);

        Of course ... Actually, the first single German MG-34 machine gun, and now think why, in the midst of the war, the warring army is forced to switch to a new machine gun. Obviously not from a good life. By how very problematic the machine was. And MG-42 also inherited some of its diseases.
        Quote: JORA
        the first submachine gun under the intermediate cartridge (StG 44 in the USSR there was no such thing, and later AK 47 was inferior to it in accuracy);

        The weight, size and reliability of this "miracle" are also worth mentioning separately. And what is not good.
        Quote: JORA
        and the possibility of using rifle grenades is implemented only in the promising AK12);

        In, damn it - yes, all decent armies have long abandoned rifle grenades in favor of under-barrel grenade launchers. Since both the capabilities and the nomenclature of the used ammunition are not an extensive example there.
        1. ZHORA
          -1
          16 March 2012 13: 58
          Quote: Viking
          Of course ... Actually, the first single German MG-34 machine gun, and now think why, in the midst of the war, the warring army is forced to switch to a new machine gun. Obviously not from a good life. By how very problematic the machine was. And MG-42 also inherited some of its diseases.

          It’s not a problem at all, they just cheapened and made it more technologically advanced, who who, and the Germans are not stupid, the modernization of the MG-42 MG-3 is still in service and is not going to be removed

          Quote: Viking
          In, damn it - yes, all decent armies have long abandoned rifle grenades in favor of under-barrel grenade launchers. Since both the capabilities and the nomenclature of the used ammunition are not an extensive example there.


          The United States refused partly because of the unification of the ammunition nomenclature with easel grenade launchers, but all of their weapons are suitable for throwing rifle grenades, since their stocks are significant, and the mass of warhead rifle grenades is two times more than the underbarrel ... And then some samples put on weapons

          http://www.militaryparitet.com/teletype/data/ic_teletype/1149/

        2. 77bor1973
          0
          24 May 2012 18: 41
          Stg 44 Germans created for greater stability of units in the defense and was more expensive in the production of MP38 times three ...
      2. +1
        16 March 2012 22: 08
        ZHORA, ... and prove the backwardness of Russian design and technological thought ...
        I’ll ask sorry !!! As for design and technological thought, I don’t know how things are now, and during the Soviet Union such prototypes were created in specialized workshops that the hair stood on end. Well, in a figurative sense, of course. Not from horror, but Look, I’m delighted! Look, maybe you can find samples for astronauts on the Internet (there were about 180 of them) all made of metal. As well as sports, I just found Khaidurov, and as I understand it, he created only from sports, and there were other masters not only in the anatomical handles but also in the original USM.What is the USM Toporkov, where one coil spring is coiled, it’s also fighting, it’s for pulling the trigger, it’s for the dog for rotating the drum. And everything’s on the base (for sports goals) and soft adjustment of the descent. True, the frame is arranged somewhat differently and by five millimeters, as Khaidurov’s breech is enlarged. And the firing pin is made differently. Smith-Wesson didn’t lie nearby. And as if the products were finished, the products seemed to be varnished and n but at first glance it seems that the metal surface shines through at least three millimeters and does not glare blueness and not matte at the same time. And you Benelli !!!)))
      3. 0
        25 March 2012 06: 19
        I'm not special in shooting, just reading memoirs:
        - mg-42 Germans spat on him, in any case, compared with the previous mg-36, mg-42 is cheaper, easier, quicker and, as a result, not reliable, but at that time we only compare with dp
        - Our intermediate cartridge was tested in the war, but on carbines, in my opinion in 43g. one of our most successful
        - the transition to a low-pulse cartridge is still a very dubious event, instead of teaching fighters to shoot, they began to customize weapons for them, as a result of loss of efficiency in the forest and grass, the special forces are not happy with them
        - large-caliber rifles are very eloquently presented in anti-tank rifles, and in the sniper version as weapons for special weapons, it was planned to shoot tactical missiles in Europe, I don’t remember the models, but the rifles were
        - snip ammunition and optics are of course in the West, with his manic passion, they will fight from afar, of course they will be more developed, but this is more of a misfortune for our generals, they are more economists than soldiers
        - our rifle grenades were made, but they spat on it because of the lack of prospects, and so it is possible on all counts,
        half of the claims against the military-industrial complex of the USSR are not substantiated from a practical point of view, the second half is due to the customer’s proximity, unfortunately the military-industrial complex of Russia has taken the Amerovsky path, a lot of hype, a lot of advertising, a lot of plastic and crazy prices with dubious advantages
  22. Region65
    0
    16 March 2012 06: 23
    Saiga-shmayga, I’m certainly a patriot of all Russia, but I won’t take IZHMASH’s products from those that are mass-produced, because it’s natural shit, Saiga, in particular, needs to be modified 100% after purchase from a gunsmith, otherwise there’s wedges and ammo everywhere and so on, so when I buy a gun I always write in ads - IL or TOZ Soviet-made, By the way, rival Saigi Hammer is much more reliable and successful, we will wait a while, but so far ordinary people don’t have much feedback about saigas, Minuserov I ask you to take into account that all of my guns are IZhevskys but of Soviet manufacture, if you now take something from IZH it is only that which comes in piecewise versions.
    1. 0
      16 March 2012 22: 18
      Hello to my fellow man, I have IZh-12 ​​12 cal., Izh-Deer 32 cal., My son IZh-27 12 cal. And IZh-27 20 cal. And I’ll say for everyone without hiding, Izhevsk production is the most reliable production in the world. It can’t be compared with TOZ-34. Flimsy tozovka. Yes, and almost all of their scale is suitable for shooting on cymbals.
  23. dred
    -1
    16 March 2012 07: 57
    Well, since orders come from Austria and Poland, it means there is something in it. Agree with me that these countries could easily buy the same Benelli.
    1. ZHORA
      +1
      16 March 2012 08: 44
      you can sell 12 guns and say loudly sales started in Austria (although the article is about Australia), but in fact, in a seedy Russian town this party is called a simple implementation for a week ...
  24. 0
    13 October 2013 14: 12
    Nevertheless, it would be nice to equip our policemen with Saiga ...