Military Review

MFA: Russia is ready to go to court because of the seizure of its property

116
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, in a telephone conversation with US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, called the seizure by the US authorities of Russian diplomatic property a gross violation of international legal norms, Moscow is ready to go to court in this connection, the report says Online Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation.

MFA: Russia is ready to go to court because of the seizure of its property


When discussing the situation in bilateral relations, Sergey Lavrov pointed out that the seizure of Russian diplomatic property by the US authorities in the United States is a gross violation of international legal norms. The Minister drew the attention of the Secretary of State to the statement by Russian President Vladimir Putin at a press conference following the BRICS summit in Xiamen about the intention of our country to use judicial procedures in relation to the unlawful actions of Washington
- said in a statement

Earlier, the Russian leader said that he would instruct the Foreign Ministry to file a lawsuit in a US court because of the situation with Russian diplomatic property in the United States.

The Russian consulate general in San Francisco, as well as the trade missions in Washington and New York, were handed over to the American side on Saturday at the request of the State Department. At the same time, the Russian side claims that illegal searches were conducted in the buildings with the participation of FBI agents. The United States previously closed access to two residential complexes - the so-called suburban "dachas" of Russia's permanent mission in New York and the Russian embassy in Washington, which are also Russian diplomatic property.
Photos used:
http://www.mid.ru/ru/home
116 comments
Ad

Subscribe to our Telegram channel, regularly additional information about the special operation in Ukraine, a large amount of information, videos, something that does not fall on the site: https://t.me/topwar_official

Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must sign in.
  1. oleg-gr
    oleg-gr 5 September 2017 19: 54
    +10
    The rhetorical question: who are the judges? Americans never admit wrongdoing. And they wanted to sneeze at the other courts.
    1. Thrall
      Thrall 5 September 2017 19: 56
      +32
      When under Stalin, the USSR Ministry of Foreign Affairs expressed concern, half of the countries cheated, and the other half hid!
      1. cniza
        cniza 5 September 2017 20: 23
        +9
        Quote: oleg-gr
        The rhetorical question: who are the judges? Americans never admit wrongdoing. And they wanted to sneeze at the other courts.


        Of course, this is not entirely comfortable, but their courts can knock on the President's head and not only him.
        1. igorj 51
          igorj 51 5 September 2017 22: 50
          +3
          Of course, this is not entirely comfortable, but their courts can knock on the President's head and not only him.

          You seriously believe that the American courts will rule in favor of Russia ... 7 Naive You have the right to say ...
          1. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 6 September 2017 00: 17
            +12
            Quote: igorj 51
            Of course, this is not entirely comfortable, but their courts can knock on the President's head and not only him.

            You seriously believe that the American courts will rule in favor of Russia ... 7 Naive You have the right to say ...

            it means that they are once again obgavnyatsya and discredit, in addition, their judicial system !! wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing tongue good
            1. igorj 51
              igorj 51 6 September 2017 06: 02
              +2
              it means that they are once again obgavnyatsya and discredit, in addition, their judicial system !!

              You might think this for the first time ... They do not bother about this at all ...
          2. Funnels
            Funnels 6 September 2017 03: 14
            +10
            The stake has been made on this, and VVP said directly about it: Let's look at their most unprincipled and fair court in the world.
          3. user1212
            user1212 6 September 2017 05: 26
            +4
            Quote: igorj 51
            You seriously believe that the American courts will rule in favor of Russia ... 7 Naive You have the right to say ...

            There is an important nuance here. In the United States, as in England, there is case law.
          4. osoboye_mneniye
            osoboye_mneniye 6 September 2017 09: 02
            +4
            Quote: igorj 51
            Of course, this is not entirely comfortable, but their courts can knock on the President's head and not only him.

            You seriously believe that the American courts will rule in favor of Russia ... 7 Naive You have the right to say ...


            Here is a slightly different task. If Russia has a lot of reasons to sue on obvious issues, and if there is a wave of rash court decisions, then Russia will be able to show that the court has outlived its usefulness. In fact, this will succeed in devaluing the notorious democratic values ​​in the eyes of the world community, and thus making the situation generally more favorable for Russia. For what? Time will tell.
            It seems to me that in the matter of diplomatic property, everything goes on as usual.
            1. igorj 51
              igorj 51 6 September 2017 09: 45
              0
              Here is a slightly different task. If Russia has a lot of reasons to sue on obvious issues, and if there is a wave of rash court decisions, then Russia will be able to show that the court has outlived its usefulness.

              Well, let's say Russia will be able to prove that the court has outlived its usefulness. And then what ..? What is the alternative to ships ..? In my opinion you misunderstand everything.
              In fact, this will succeed in devaluing the notorious democratic values ​​in the eyes of the world community,

              These most notorious democratic values ​​have already depreciated nowhere further, including in the eyes of the world community. Only the fact is that this very world community cannot refuse them since. they were imposed on him, by force. It is known who imposed and makes people adhere to these values ​​by all means, political, economic and military.
              and thus make the situation in general for Russia more favorable. For what? Time will tell.

              Do you really seriously believe that this litigation, and even in an American court, knowingly losing for Russia, in which I am 100% sure will make it possible for Russia to make a more favorable environment ..? As they say, blessed is he who believes ...
              It seems to me that in the matter of diplomatic property, everything goes on as usual.

              Sure. And this is just the beginning. This whole "diplomatic war" will only grow.
              1. osoboye_mneniye
                osoboye_mneniye 6 September 2017 12: 16
                +3
                Quote: igorj 51
                In fact, this will succeed in devaluing the notorious democratic values ​​in the eyes of the world community,
                These most notorious democratic values ​​have already depreciated nowhere further, including in the eyes of the world community. Only the fact is that this very world community cannot refuse them since. they were imposed on him, by force. It is known who imposed and makes people adhere to these values ​​by all means, political, economic and military.
                and thus make the situation in general for Russia more favorable. For what? Time will tell.
                Do you really seriously believe that this litigation, and even in an American court, knowingly losing for Russia, in which I am 100% sure will make it possible for Russia to make a more favorable environment ..? As they say, blessed is he who believes ...


                You want to get a specific result specifically for this situation. It's impossible. The only way to benefit from the situation is to show the whole world that democratic courts (and legislation in general) do not at all guarantee the observance of democratic values. Moreover, the foundations of democracy (the inviolability of private property, which they pray for, and ours too) have been fundamentally undermined.
                I think that this will be a strong blow to the views of the most convinced democrats / liberals, after which they will begin to figure out what their values ​​are really worth, who is their guarantor in reality, and so on. Then they will think about with whom it is better for them to be friends, and with whom it is not worth it. The process is already in full swing. But the more arguments there are, the better. You can't stop in this game, and the stakes are much higher than some pitiful diplomatic property.
                I would not be surprised if this is such a provocation on the part of Russia. And this is the right move. On the one hand, we ourselves clearly see xy from xy (you can see everything well on the forum, and the majority of the population in the TV box really does not understand why good America suddenly became bad), and on the other hand, the population of bourgeois countries also sees it all. As I understand it, the goal of our government is to shatter the picture of the world of Europeans. And here any means are good, and it is foolish to feel sorry for some mansion in America.
                You say that they were forced upon them, they were forced, etc. It's like that. But this scheme works as long as the population passively agrees. Until they understand that tomorrow they will also come for their property, they will not start thinking seriously. When they are also baked, then democracy will be able to force them to eat only by military means. If the elites agree to this, then there will be a war. And in the Russian war it is difficult to win ...
                1. igorj 51
                  igorj 51 6 September 2017 12: 40
                  0
                  The only way to benefit from the situation is to show the whole world that democratic courts (and legislation in general) do not at all guarantee the observance of democratic values.

                  This has long been obvious to all sane people.
                  I think that this will be a strong blow to the views of the most convinced democrats / liberals, after which they will begin to think about what their values ​​are really worth, who is their guarantor in reality, etc.

                  do you seriously think that this litigation will be able to convince the pro-American Democrats / Liberals ..? You shouldn't hope .... From my experience of communicating with them, I can say that no one and nothing can convince them. In fact, they are the same fanatics of their views as those radical Islamists from ISIS, Al-Nusra, etc. Yes, the comparison may not be entirely correct, but it is accurate.
                  I would not be surprised if this is such a provocation on the part of Russia.

                  To be honest, I had the same thought. But I rejected it.
                  And this is the right move.

                  And what's right here. especially in the game with the Amenrikans .. It will come out very quickly anyway, and in that case Russia will simply end its own reputation in the international arena with all that it implies .. No, this is complete nonsense ...
                  On the one hand, we ourselves clearly see xy from xy (you can see everything well on the forum, and the majority of the population in the TV box really does not understand why good America suddenly became bad), and on the other hand, the population of bourgeois countries also sees it all.

                  As for the bourgeois countries, I know their attitude towards the Americans firsthand. In bourgeois Germany, my own sister lives with whom I regularly communicate ...
                  As I understand it, the goal of our government is to shatter the worldview of Europeans. And here any means are good, and it is foolish to feel sorry for some mansion in America.

                  But it seems to me that the current Russian government is not capable of this goal ...
                  You say that they were forced upon them, they were forced, etc. It's like that. But this scheme works as long as the population passively agrees. Until they understand that tomorrow they will also come for their property, they will not start thinking seriously. When they are also baked, then democracy will be able to force them to eat only by military means. If the elites agree to this, then there will be a war. And in the Russian war it is difficult to win ...

                  And what have the Russians to do with it ..? I was not talking about Russians, but about other countries, European and not only ...
                  1. osoboye_mneniye
                    osoboye_mneniye 6 September 2017 13: 29
                    +1
                    Why argue ... Let's see - we'll see!
                    Our answer will find what. They will get the maximum benefit from the situation.
                    Conclusions about whether it is worth having property abroad, and who should own property in Russia, will also be made.
                    That's all, perhaps.
                    What else can you do if your property is seized in a foreign state? Send the invaders, like during the expropriation of 1917?
                    And do not confuse a dislike for America with the devaluation of the ideals of society. Russia's goal is much higher than simply bringing discord into a friendly European family ..
        2. AA17
          AA17 6 September 2017 14: 31
          0
          You wrote in a very funny way: "... their courts can knock the President in the head ...". Do not be offended, but it "smiled" at me.
          There is a saying: "Only a superior force can create judgment" (Friedrich Nietzsche).
          And I also suggest that you read an interesting document (this document was slightly corrected by me, the real author wrote it as the Conceptual Foundations of the Constitution)
          "... CONCEPTUAL FOUNDATIONS OF WORLD ORDER
           Article 1.
          The strong can do anything.
          All power in the WORLD belongs to the strong, the power of the strong cannot be limited by anything but strength.
          Article 2.
          The law is for the weak.
          The weak are obliged to obey the laws that are written by the strong. The strong are not required to obey the laws they write for the weak.
          Article 3.
          Strong is not equal to weak. The strong is always to blame for the weak. For the strong, the presumption of innocence applies.
          Article 4.
          The strong have rights, the weak have duties.
          The strong can break the law. The weak can also break the law, but only in individual cases and if it does not harm the strong.
          Article 5.
          The strong can not abuse their rights in relation to the stronger than themselves. If a strong abused the right to a stronger one than himself, he is considered weak and the law applies to him.
          Article 6.
          No strong person can be held accountable for the crime that he committed, unless he violated the right of a stronger one than himself.
          Article 7.
          The weak can be held accountable for the crimes they have committed, for crimes that the strong have committed, and even for crimes that no one has committed at all.
          Article 8.
          The weak is not entitled to protection from the strong. The weak is strong towards the weaker than he is. Trying to protect the weak from the strong is a crime.
          Article 9.
          The property belongs to the strong.
          The strong hold the property with the permission of the strongest.
          The weak are obliged to give their property to the strong at his first request.
          Article 11.
          Disputes between the strong are resolved by concept. Concepts have the strength of tradition.
          Concepts are higher than laws. If the concepts and laws contradict each other, the laws are applied to the extent that they do not contradict the concepts.
          Article 12.
          The power of the strong is from God. The exclusive right to explain why the powerful should have power belongs to the Church. The church belongs to the strong - along with the state. The weak must go to church.
          Article 13.
          The strongest are led by the strongest. The strongest is not elected and not appointed, but self-determined. Elections are necessary so that a previously known result looks plausible.
          Article 14.
          The strong on the ground themselves manage the weak.
          Some strong ones do not interfere in the affairs of other strong ones, if decency is observed. Interference in the affairs of other powerful people is allowed within the limits necessary to restore decency.
          While the strong are sorting out among themselves, the weak are obliged to remain silent.
          Article 15.
          The right of the strong applies to the whole WORLD.
          Article 16.
          [b] The laws of the strong are in effect until the weak themselves become strong. ..."
      2. analgin
        analgin 5 September 2017 21: 06
        +5
        Quote: Thrall
        When under Stalin, the USSR Ministry of Foreign Affairs expressed concern, half of the countries cheated, and the other half hid!

        Can I have at least one example? For general development.
        1. SergeBS
          SergeBS 8 September 2017 22: 37
          0
          Sure, not a problem. The capitulation of Germany in 1945 was signed for the first time by the Americans, and the general from the Red Army was “for show”, like “everyone agreed”. However, then SUDDENLY it turned out - "that there you signed a p.i.dos with a nemchura - do not care. But now - sign EVERYTHING again, according to OUR rules. And p.i.dos may be present. But do not command, who signs what. "
      3. Greg Miller
        Greg Miller 5 September 2017 21: 46
        +4
        This happened when the ruling elite did not have personal accounts and real estate abroad ...
      4. igorj 51
        igorj 51 5 September 2017 22: 47
        +6
        When under Stalin, the USSR Ministry of Foreign Affairs expressed concern, half of the countries cheated, and the other half hid!

        Now the DPRK Foreign Ministry is doing exactly the same thing. And with exactly the same results .. Here is a concrete example, the day before yesterday the Koreans detonated a hydrogen bomb and look what hysteria all American sixes have ..! And the DPRK ambassador to the UN today, in his statement, made him happy:
        https://ria.ru/world/20170905/1501794441.html
        "The latest self-defense measures taken in the DPRK are a gift set exclusively addressed to the United States. The United States will receive more gifts from my country as long as they rely on reckless provocations and futile attempts to put pressure on the DPRK," said Han The Song.

        This is the way to talk with the Americans ..! And not to wipe off snot in the form of "notes of protest" and litigation over the already closed diplomatic missions ...
        1. Mexovoy
          Mexovoy 5 September 2017 23: 22
          +3
          It's a game. Donald drove aircraft carriers near Korea. Kim pulled out a hydrogen card. Donald has been disengaged by the media about the Russians, and success is shining in arms sales in that region.
      5. SteelRatTV
        SteelRatTV 6 September 2017 04: 35
        +3
        hi Isn't it time to stir up the teachings "Moscow - Venezuela. Let's not let drugs into the world."
        It would be very ... wassat
      6. Titsen
        Titsen 6 September 2017 07: 06
        +1
        Quote: Thrall
        When under Stalin, the USSR Ministry of Foreign Affairs expressed concern, half of the countries cheated, and the other half hid!


        Yes, there were times ...

        And now the Ministry of Foreign Concern of Russia even makes me laugh!

        How Churkin is missing!

        Zhirinovsky is right - you need to change the minister!
        1. analgin
          analgin 6 September 2017 07: 24
          0
          Quote: Titsen

          Zhirinovsky is right - you need to change the minister!

          Lavrov, did something that did not suit and satisfy Putin? And so, yes - replacing one talking head with another will greatly help improve international relations. good
    2. Monos
      Monos 5 September 2017 19: 57
      +20
      In the same place, the GDP said that a reduction in the American diplomatic mission by another 155 people is possible. And I believe that one ambassador and his secretary should be left. At the current level of our relations, this is enough. And leave them one room in the basement of the current US embassy.
      1. DEPARTMENT
        DEPARTMENT 5 September 2017 20: 06
        +3
        MFA: Russia is ready to go to court because of the seizure of its property

        And who are the judges? It's funny and sad ... In this situation, I agree with Zhirinovsky!
        1. Ararat
          Ararat 5 September 2017 20: 48
          +1
          Basically, I agree with him, but the war, as you know, did not start the USA and the DPRK has been yelling at the age of 53
        2. SteelRatTV
          SteelRatTV 6 September 2017 04: 48
          0
          Don't worry! That will muddy the teachings "Moscow-Venezuela. No drugs." drinks
      2. LSA57
        LSA57 5 September 2017 20: 06
        +11
        Quote: Monos
        And I think we should leave one ambassador and his secretary.

        not his. our appoint
        Quote: Monos
        And leave them one room in the basement of the current US embassy.

        no embassy building to transfer to the city. allocate a room in a communal apartment in a residential area
        1. SteelRatTV
          SteelRatTV 6 September 2017 04: 49
          +1
          ... in the Solovki area. wassat
        2. abrakadabre
          abrakadabre 6 September 2017 05: 56
          +1
          allocate a room in a communal apartment in a residential area
          At a minimum distance from the solid waste landfill. In the same room, put him a cot. There is nothing to occupy a scarce living space.
      3. Anarchist
        Anarchist 5 September 2017 20: 18
        +29
        2 Monos ↑
        Today, 19: 57
        In the same place, the GDP said that it is possible to reduce the American diplomatic mission by another 155 people.

        He said a lot more ...

        Once upon a time this picture lifted my spirits. And now he lowers his pride recourse
        1. DEPARTMENT
          DEPARTMENT 5 September 2017 21: 14
          +10
          But I like this one .. It's hard for Putin now, he walks on the edge of a knife!

          I think very well when you look at the river and the silence ...
          And he loves the nature of Russia unambiguously! And that's why I respect him ..
          1. Deniska999
            Deniska999 6 September 2017 16: 58
            0
            How does Putin's love for nature compare with foreign policy?
            1. DEPARTMENT
              DEPARTMENT 6 September 2017 17: 05
              0
              Quote: Deniska999
              How does Putin's love for nature compare with foreign policy?

              I wrote "love for the nature of Russia" When you see these vast expanses, rich in natural resources, forests, rivers, there is a sense of responsibility before the ancestors (who left it all to us and poured blood on it) and the country .. That all this needs to be preserved and increased for future generations
              You will not understand this, you probably immediately came to mind "Greenpiss", etc. ha ha ha
        2. olegactor
          olegactor 5 September 2017 21: 31
          +3
          I agree to all 100 ... one chatter ... it's time to act ... put p ... to ... owls in place both in the matter of diplomacy and in the ruin
      4. Reserve officer
        Reserve officer 5 September 2017 20: 22
        +11
        Quote: Monos
        In the same place, the GDP said that a reduction in the American diplomatic mission by another 155 people is possible. And I believe that one ambassador and his secretary should be left. At the current level of our relations, this is enough. And leave them one room in the basement of the current US embassy.


        Victor, I recently recently suggested leaving them only one embassy. In Crimea. Every day I am convinced that they definitely do not need to give anything else.
        1. Monos
          Monos 5 September 2017 20: 36
          +9
          Alex, good evening! hi
          Quote: Reserve officer
          Victor, I recently recently suggested leaving them only one embassy. In Crimea. Every day I am convinced that they definitely do not need to give anything else.

          laughing Yes I remember. That would be a very strong move!
          1. Slovak
            Slovak 5 September 2017 21: 07
            +2
            strong move in breaking news. The talks were published at the meeting between Sechin and Ulyukaev. This is a nightmare! Homeless people in the gateway are more eloquent, more intelligible, more literate and more honest. Now it is clear that Sechin is behind 7 spans in his forehead and why the salary of this brilliant manager is comparable to the budget of not a small town
            1. Monos
              Monos 5 September 2017 21: 14
              +15
              And you are not mistaken in the subject? Or you always have one topic, "Putin must leave." ?
              1. poquello
                poquello 5 September 2017 22: 17
                +1
                Quote: Monos
                And you are not mistaken in the subject? Or you always have one topic, "Putin must leave." ?

                "On TV, greetings are needed like latches in a bathhouse."
                Tsyurupa A. D. (1870-1928) - b. in the mountains. Aleshkakh Tavricheskaya lips., in the family of an employee of the Aleshkovsk city council.

                a chain is emerging - Crimea, Tsyuryupa, Petrosyan, one favorite topic
      5. Greg Miller
        Greg Miller 5 September 2017 21: 49
        +5
        No need to be smart ... How to do it in Belarus - throw out the ambassador and reduce the staff of the American embassy to 6 people ... In Belarus this was done 9 years ago and there is still no smell of color revolutions there ...
        1. abrakadabre
          abrakadabre 6 September 2017 06: 12
          +2
          Why are you so harsh ...
          It should be kindly:

          1. In the most gentle tone, express concern for the safety of the embassy staff in view of the popular anger at the American steps towards us. And in order to increase the personal safety of their employees, introduce an access control - any leaving or visiting the territory of the embassy is coordinated a week in advance and with the completion of a detailed questionnaire of 50 pages. Both for diplomats and for visitors. With the wording "to ensure security along the route" and "to verify the identity of possible terrorists."

          2. In order not to increase the degree of tension in society, recommend and insist that the protection of the territory of the embassy outside its walls (and not the fence) should be carried out not by the US Marines, but by our "little green men" with the involvement of armored vehicles, by erecting "temporary" barbed obstacles wire and total video fixation along the entire perimeter. Marines must not leave the building. You never know what kind of goof will fire at them through the fence. Then a diplomatic scandal is not enough.
          Everything is only for the safety of precious "partners".
          1. abrakadabre
            abrakadabre 6 September 2017 06: 26
            0
            3. It is a commission to jointly view mail, parcels, cargo and cars.

            4. Also about e-mail, phone calls and site logs.
      6. SteelRatTV
        SteelRatTV 6 September 2017 04: 36
        0
        hi I here once suggested the Solovki district.
    3. Lopatov
      Lopatov 5 September 2017 20: 03
      +6
      Quote: oleg-gr
      Rhetorical question: who are the judges?

      Americans. After all, ours decided to appeal to their courts. And any decision of these courts not in favor of Russia can be perfectly used in an information war.
      1. analgin
        analgin 5 September 2017 21: 09
        +1
        Quote: Spade
        Quote: oleg-gr
        Rhetorical question: who are the judges?

        Americans. After all, ours decided to appeal to their courts. And any decision of these courts not in favor of Russia can be perfectly used in an information war.

        As in the case of Siemens and turbines? winked
      2. KAV
        KAV 6 September 2017 00: 04
        +4
        Quote: Spade
        And any decision of these courts not in favor of Russia can be perfectly used in an information war.

        Quite right. By any unfair decision they discredit themselves even more! And this can and should be used against them.
        And to all those who believe in the inviolability of the hegemon, I can say one thing - water and stone wears away! They will not be the hegemon forever! They have already been dressed up more than once in front of the whole world. And the world is not only their vassals. Including, the course of our GDP is correct. Long, difficult, but correct course!
      3. Alex Justice
        Alex Justice 6 September 2017 12: 31
        0
        Foreign media are sluggish about this war.
    4. papas-57
      papas-57 5 September 2017 20: 06
      +3
      `` Earlier, the Russian leader announced that he would instruct the Russian Foreign Ministry to file a lawsuit in an American court. '' Will instruct or instruct, submit or submit? The words sound almost the same, but the meaning is completely different. And why pull the rubber, the answer should be very quick.
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 5 September 2017 22: 14
        0
        Quote: papas-57
        `` Earlier, the Russian leader announced that he would instruct the Russian Foreign Ministry to file a lawsuit in an American court. '' Will instruct or instruct, submit or submit? The words sound almost the same, but the meaning is completely different. And why pull the rubber, the answer should be very quick.

        VVP made a reservation at a press conference that the Foreign Ministry would consider this phrase a formalized instruction, from which it follows that the work of the Foreign Ministry has already begun ...
    5. olegactor
      olegactor 5 September 2017 21: 24
      0
      Lavrov probably does not understand that from pi ... to ... you have to do business yourself
      just as they ... to kick back with a kick ... these freaks don't understand anything else
      1. poquello
        poquello 5 September 2017 22: 26
        +2
        Quote: olegactor
        Lavrov probably does not understand that from pi ... to ... you have to do business yourself
        just like they ... to kick back with a kick.

        Lavrov just understands that the United States has been fucked up with this trick in front of the whole world, and the louder and longer the circles from this story go, the less trust the rest of the world has in the United States.
        1. igorj 51
          igorj 51 5 September 2017 22: 55
          +1
          Lavrov just realizes that the United States is fucked up with this trick in front of the whole world

          Come on ... Or maybe Lavrov understands something else ...
          1. poquello
            poquello 6 September 2017 00: 31
            0
            Quote: igorj 51
            Lavrov just realizes that the United States is fucked up with this trick in front of the whole world

            Come on ... Or maybe Lavrov understands something else ...

            )) maybe, but I don’t know about it, you don’t write about it, but the age-old rules of the world order and communication of the United States have crossed, and who are they now? the country from which such antics can be expected is the level of popuas and savages, somewhere next to the savage Libyan Arab revolutionaries
            1. igorj 51
              igorj 51 6 September 2017 05: 58
              +1
              and the age-old rules of the world order and communication of the United States have crossed, and who are they now?

              Believe it or not, the United States does not give a damn about who you think they are .. They consider themselves the strongest in the world, the richest, and on this basis they do what they want and no one can tell them. And it is foolish to believe that some kind of court is there, even if suddenly it does make a decision not in favor of the United States, then they will carry it out .. You cannot talk to Americans in civilized ways. They don't understand this. Moreover, they regard it as weakness.
              1. poquello
                poquello 6 September 2017 18: 58
                +1
                Quote: igorj 51
                The United States does not give a damn about who you think they are .. They consider themselves

                their opinion is an insignificant factor in this story, if you do not understand
                1. igorj 51
                  igorj 51 6 September 2017 19: 06
                  +1
                  their opinion is an insignificant factor in this story, if you do not understand

                  Alas ... As much as you would like it, the opinion of the United States is still a rather significant factor in world politics. Don't underestimate the States ..
    6. arane
      arane 5 September 2017 22: 59
      +5
      Quote: oleg-gr
      The rhetorical question: who are the judges? Americans never admit wrongdoing. And they wanted to sneeze at the other courts.

      You don’t believe it .....
      If the US court recognizes this act as legal, then this is also in our hands
      T e it turns out you can ....
  2. Cutter
    Cutter 5 September 2017 19: 56
    +9
    American court, does it make sense? winked
    1. Kurare
      Kurare 5 September 2017 20: 00
      +6
      American courts operate on a case-by-case basis. Once a verdict was delivered, it can be referred to, even abroad. And if this is so, then the Americans will already be crap. And everything is according to the LAW!

      So, I just think they won't be brought to court. They won't be allowed to sue at all.
    2. A Farewell to Arms
      A Farewell to Arms 5 September 2017 20: 01
      +4
      Do not say.... laughing Or are they going to Basmanny? Then there will be at least some sense ...
    3. Anarchist
      Anarchist 5 September 2017 20: 01
      +23
      Quote: Cutter
      American court, does it make sense? winked

      None at all! Even if there is success, it will be in a few years. By that time they will have time to stir up all our buildings.
      Moreover, by the end of the case, the USA will return everything back! Apologize and the incident is over ...
      For our apologies, we are ready to forgive the downed plane! And the lives of two servicemen ...
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 5 September 2017 22: 30
        +1
        Quote: Anarchist
        None at all! Even if there is success, it will be in a few years. By that time they will have time to stir up all our buildings. Moreover, by the end of the case, the USA will return everything back! Apologize and the incident is over ...

        Come on! In a few years, the United States itself with its crocodile policy may no longer exist.
        Quote: Anarchist
        For our apologies, we are ready to forgive the downed plane! And the lives of two servicemen ...

        Nobody forgave anyone for anything. It's just that their entire scenario of drawing Russia and Turkey into an armed conflict was broken off to the mattresses. The whole story with the downed plane is on the conscience of the Americans. As for the two servicemen, this information is not correct, since in Syria our losses amount to more than 30 servicemen who died defending the interests of Russia - Eternal memory! Some of them died not without the help of the same Americans and their accomplices in the coalition. Meanwhile, their death was avenged by the fact that the mattress project in Syria collapsed because of what, the mattresses are trying to bite Russia in any possible way and simply slide into political hysteria.
        1. Anarchist
          Anarchist 5 September 2017 22: 54
          +19
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          In a few years, the United States itself with its crocodile policy may no longer be

          Can?

          And not everything is smooth with the news!

          And so that their head does not burst, they do this:
          And when you pass everything through the prism of your own knowledge and after filtering you start to analyze, you get this:
          Optimism is good! But you need to really look at things ...
      2. igorj 51
        igorj 51 6 September 2017 19: 09
        0
        Moreover, by the end of the case, the USA will return everything back!

        This is when and to whom did the US return the selected ...? And even with an apology ..? Do you recall at least one such case ..? Otherwise, I don't even know those ...
        For our apologies, we are ready to forgive the downed plane! And the lives of two servicemen ...

        Alas ... As one great statesman said, "every nation has the government it deserves .."
    4. Lopatov
      Lopatov 5 September 2017 20: 04
      +3
      Quote: Cutter
      American court, does it make sense?

      Certainly.
      The only thing is that the case will be very long, decisions will be delayed until the last opportunity.
      1. Anarchist
        Anarchist 5 September 2017 20: 15
        +19
        Till the last breath. And if anything, then you can appeal ...
        1. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 5 September 2017 21: 57
          +1
          so what ? it was necessary to shoot back. Why do the guards have weapons? would have become heroes, and it would have been easier for us. But it is not a fact that they would have gone to warn them into the air, and arrogance would have immediately flown from the amers. And since in the picture only the hands were not tied there
          1. Kerensky
            Kerensky 5 September 2017 22: 09
            +1
            And what am I talking about here ?! One hero is enough.
      2. analgin
        analgin 5 September 2017 21: 19
        +1
        Quote: Spade

        The only thing is that the case will be very long, decisions will be delayed until the last opportunity.

        Why would you suddenly "drag out until the last opportunity"? From love to Trump?
    5. analgin
      analgin 5 September 2017 21: 14
      +1
      Quote: Cutter
      American court, does it make sense? winked

      Why not? The White House will not call the court and will not put pressure, the more Trump with his "popularity." So there are chances.
    6. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 5 September 2017 22: 19
      +3
      Quote: Cutter
      American court, does it make sense?

      There is. Property and its protection is one of the pillars on which the United States stands, and here property is taken away by lawlessness and without a court decision, which casts doubt on the entire American "democracy" even in the eyes of the Americans themselves.
  3. kefan
    kefan 5 September 2017 20: 07
    +2
    Well, this is unlikely to help, I think we need to take more stringent measures to mattress toppers.
  4. Proton
    Proton 5 September 2017 20: 23
    +8
    What a disgrace, they were puffed in the face with a broom and stripped in full view of the whole world, and they "went to court." request
    Where have you seen that a great power would complain to the courts of the enemy? angry
  5. Herculesic
    Herculesic 5 September 2017 20: 24
    +4
    Or maybe just a mirror answer, closing all consulates in the country, and transferring the premises for kindergartens or schools? Let's leave one representative office on Novaya Zemlya, and one more in the wilderness near Moscow, and so that the Yankees have no right to move further than 10 km from them! And at the embassy - I hope the former embassy of theirs - we will arrange a shelter for the homeless!
  6. Iaaa
    Iaaa 5 September 2017 20: 30
    +8
    And who and where said that going to court is the only answer.? GDP instructed to go to court.po property dispute.iz for denial of access to Russian real estate So petty trolling of amers who claim that their judicial system is the most super-duper. Let's see what kind of super duper she is. And so there was another hint that it is possible to reduce their dip by another 155 spies. mission.
    Well, not in gauges for the State Depe to bullet? They will still be useful to us. I meant calibers.
    1. Herculesic
      Herculesic 5 September 2017 20: 38
      +4
      It is necessary to leave 155 diplomats throughout the country, and prohibit the United States from increasing the composition of the mission, even by one person! Let's say here an American gave birth - a suitcase, a railway station, the USA, and not her place, let them send one individual !!!
  7. steelmaker
    steelmaker 5 September 2017 20: 34
    +3
    Something I do not hear "joyful squealing" from the wise decision of Putin.
    1. The comment was deleted.
    2. Winnie76
      Winnie76 5 September 2017 21: 59
      0
      Quote: steel maker
      Something I do not hear "joyful squealing" from the wise decision of Putin.

      Hard, uncompromising sexual intercourse with unconventional use of the auricles can lead to deafness. Take care of yourself, Steelmaker wassat
  8. Ivan58
    Ivan58 5 September 2017 20: 36
    +2
    They have already threatened with multimillion-dollar lawsuits against WADA. Where are they (the claims)? Why just ready to go to court? File with the Stockholm Arbitration Court, demanding the arrest of US property abroad.
  9. Anarchist
    Anarchist 5 September 2017 20: 39
    +17
    Petliura
    A burning fireplace was burning
    A young guy was tried
    He was beautiful by himself,
    But in life he did a lot of evil.
    He asked the judges for the floor,
    And the judges gave him their word.
    When he began his story,
    The whole room was filled with tears:

    "When I was ten years old
    Why did I leave the house,
    I learned to drink-smoke
    And the thug contacted the thug.
    When I turned twenty
    I was in the circle of loved ones,
    I was handsome and stronger than them
    I learned to rob by force.
    Once they robbed a village,
    Where people slept peacefully.
    We killed everyone
    And they didn't even turn on the light.
    I waved the knife again and again
    And suddenly I heard my name
    I took the matches, lit the fire ...
    Oh judge, what did I see there ...
    At the body of a dead father
    Mother stood there with a knife in her chest,
    A six year old sister
    She was quietly dying in her bed ...
    Well judge, judges, you me,
    Judge as you please, judges.
    For my atrocities
    You bear a terrible sentence ... "

    A shot rang out, he fell,
    And my beloved tears poured:
    "My dear boy, dear,
    Why did you do evil to people? "
  10. sauvage
    sauvage 5 September 2017 20: 43
    +3
    They will sue and wait months for a decision. You need to answer in a mirror, and most importantly - lightning fast, for example, today they closed the consulate in Frisco, the next day "answer", we ask the consulate in St. Petersburg to close, and give the staff 24 hours to collect, so to speak "bash for bash". There are also Russian opposition bloggers "rattling" they say Russian employees have asked for political asylum almost in full force, they do not want to leave their "native" America. If this is true, then the loss from these reductions is not great.
    1. Winnie76
      Winnie76 5 September 2017 22: 04
      0
      Quote: sauvage
      You need to answer in a mirror, and most importantly - lightning fast, for example

      Justify pozh-hundred. Are we talking about geopolitics or street fights?
      1. igorj 51
        igorj 51 5 September 2017 22: 59
        +1
        Are we talking about geopolitics or street fights?

        And what, they are so different in some way ..? Just look at what is happening in the world ..
  11. aybolyt678
    aybolyt678 5 September 2017 20: 50
    +2
    the opportunity to shoot back was missed. The consulate is the territory of a foreign country. No one has the right to search her. The consul could give an order not to let her in, to shoot. But, did it, now the Ministry of Foreign Affairs is to sort it out, I suppose it is not the correspondence of the position
    1. user1212
      user1212 6 September 2017 06: 09
      0
      Quote: aybolyt678
      Consulate is the territory of a foreign country

      At the time of the search, the consulate was already closed and did not have a diplomatic status
      1. vaay
        vaay 6 September 2017 08: 38
        +1
        Then this is private property, into whose territory they could not enter without a court decision, unless there are very good reasons, the list of which is strictly limited and agreed.
        1. user1212
          user1212 6 September 2017 12: 53
          0
          Quote: vaay
          Then this is private property, into whose territory they could not enter without a court decision, unless there are very good reasons, the list of which is strictly limited and agreed.

          I'm afraid that before the trial it will turn out that this private property was arrested in the case of "Russian hackers", for example, or "the inspection took place with the consent of the owners"
  12. SPACE
    SPACE 5 September 2017 20: 56
    +4
    In general, the actions of the Americans look just wonderful idiotic, they have no practical benefit for them, more like a small, stupid and evil vengeful trick. They are looking for actually invented Russian hackers. It’s funny to watch this American circus, how clowns from the FBI and the CIA got stuck in the past and tossed around powerlessly in embassy buildings in search of them, these are the KGB agents in the embassies who have been in the embassies since the collapse of the Union, so many of us went there, and everyone there tenth resident of Russian hacker. But for Russia, it is very useful to reduce the diplomatic corps, and indeed reduce to a minimum all kinds of joint activities with the Americans, including retaliatory actions to reduce the American presence in Russia. Also, once again, Americans all over the world made themselves very strong, idiots, and this is a precedent with far-reaching consequences, everyone sees it. Moreover, without the participation of Russia, today nothing can be decided in the world, neither in Ukraine, nor in Syria, nor in Iran, nor in S. Korea, etc., and if it also starts to put sticks, then the American generally does not shine. We are waiting for the continuation of the banquet;)
  13. Slovak
    Slovak 5 September 2017 21: 02
    +1
    Which court? Washington District Court? London? If only in any Moscow, since the US comes up with laws for the entire Western "democratic free" world. And the best thing is to throw out the mattress makers from the center of Moscow. You can go to the Russian Crimea
  14. padded jacket
    padded jacket 5 September 2017 21: 02
    +2
    It is no longer necessary to go to court, but also to "take away" US property on our territory, otherwise the Washington regime has become completely insolent when it sees that we are trying to resolve all issues peacefully.
  15. Vadmir
    Vadmir 5 September 2017 21: 10
    +2
    Maybe the policeman's uncle will be called for protection? Lavrov the Russian Foreign Minister or a small shopkeeper. to sue in response to the humiliation of an entire country?
  16. Krasnyiy komissar
    Krasnyiy komissar 5 September 2017 21: 17
    +1
    It is necessary to answer in a mirror, and not to chew snot! Russia should itself close another consulate in the United States, and then demand the closure of the American one here. Give 3.14ndos a period of two days, and if they do not leave the buildings by the appointed time, go to the assault. It is extremely desirable that 3.14 the Endos escalate and refuse to comply with the demands of the Russian side. This will give the full right to use group "A" ...
    1. krendel
      krendel 5 September 2017 23: 14
      +2
      You should command a regiment, or better a division, but only until the first enemy shot.
  17. zlyk19
    zlyk19 5 September 2017 21: 18
    +1
    Yes, read our media and forums, people have already lamented that they cannot get a visa to America. And who is not worried about this, that village FU, which does not understand all the charm of multiculturalism. And imagine what would happen if you leave only the ambassador and the secretary? Well, in addition to everything, you suggest how to knock Khrushchev with shoes, to amuse the people. At least you need to weigh the pros and cons and then make a decision.
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 5 September 2017 22: 00
      +1
      Quote: zlyk19
      our media and forums, people have already lamented that they cannot get a visa to America.

      Only one question (I apologize in advance for the primitivism): WHAT?
      Quote: zlyk19
      .And imagine what will happen if you leave only the ambassador and the secretary?

      Presented: only the ambassador and the secretary will remain. yes
  18. mmk
    mmk 5 September 2017 21: 24
    0
    Judgment for the weak! In the face in the return. Is Mr. Lavrov weak?
  19. Incomprehensible
    Incomprehensible 5 September 2017 21: 26
    +4
    Quote: oleg-gr
    The rhetorical question: who are the judges? Americans never admit wrongdoing. And they wanted to sneeze at the other courts.

    A normal move by our Foreign Ministry. Do not be led to provocations, and did not make faces in return.
    Everything in mind.
    Now we will see what the American judicial system will answer in this case.
    The truth is on our side. Therefore, it is interesting to observe how their court will react to an obvious violation of the law.
    Time will tell... )
  20. mmk
    mmk 5 September 2017 21: 27
    +1
    The thing is that he is the VNO international affairs politician. That's all. Adequate measures must follow, I emphasize "adequate". It is not necessary to close diplomatic missions in Russia. There are a lot of ways to make the USSIA bend, but then let those who are assigned this mission think.
  21. Prutkov
    Prutkov 5 September 2017 21: 55
    +4
    Any court decision will hit the mattress toppers. The court will reject the claim, the destruction of the basic principle of capitalism - the inviolability of private property. Satisfy the claim - a blow to prestige. In general, they all started it at the wrong time. Now Russia has an official opportunity to ruin all US diplomatic efforts "until the diplomatic property is returned." It seems that Trump is going to "reform" the UN. Good luck in his endeavors!
    1. Krasnyiy komissar
      Krasnyiy komissar 5 September 2017 22: 13
      0
      These will get out, making an exception to the rule. Where is the evidence of Russian interference in their elections? There are none, but there are sanctions! So it will be with the court, which will instantly side with the United States.
    2. Stas157
      Stas157 6 September 2017 08: 53
      +4
      Quote: Rods
      Any court decision will hit the mattress toppers. The court will reject the claim, the destruction of the basic principle of capitalism - the inviolability of private property. Satisfy the claim - a blow to prestige.

      Yes, they didn't care about all these little things! Americans, that they have never violated international law? And how did that affect their reputation? All these laws are for others, the USA is above the laws. Everyone knows this. And the situation can only be changed by force, to establish a new world order. Different from western.
  22. kotuk_ha_oxote
    kotuk_ha_oxote 5 September 2017 21: 55
    +3
    But argue that nothing will happen? Neither court, nor property, nor otvetki?
    1. Krasnyiy komissar
      Krasnyiy komissar 5 September 2017 22: 16
      +3
      To sue amers in their own court - srat yourself for the collar. The result will not even be zero, but negative. Russia will also be accused of putting pressure on the court!
  23. Taran 75
    Taran 75 5 September 2017 22: 17
    +4
    Quote: Proton
    Where have you seen that a great power would complain to the courts of the enemy?

    She ceased to be great as Gorbachev came to power ... and it seems that all that remains is to knock everyone on the keyboard in an angry outburst request request sad
  24. Kerensky
    Kerensky 5 September 2017 22: 34
    +1
    I can't understand the fat from this operation. And why is it so urgent? I do not believe in petty mischief without motive - there must be something there.
  25. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 5 September 2017 22: 39
    +3
    Blah - blah - blah ... Would respect yourself from the outside. Either the trolls divorced, or Kashchenko open house day? What kind of nonsense do you give out to the mountain? I agree with those who expressed their common sense - "nothing will happen" ....
  26. Plombir
    Plombir 5 September 2017 22: 41
    +1
    A very interesting train of thought, to set their own hooks on the State Department. The more mess the mattress mats have, the more fun all over the world. Well, not to declare war on them for junk? It is necessary to troll the insane hegemons, let them devour each other for the amusement of the public.
  27. fzr1000
    fzr1000 6 September 2017 00: 54
    +2
    Ministry of impotent
  28. jonht
    jonht 6 September 2017 02: 41
    +1
    As practice shows, more thoughtful and balanced decisions on our part lead to hysterical and rude retaliatory measures from the FSA ....
    Therefore, we need to look at how ours will respond to this farce, and I think the answer will be worthwhile, perhaps not as enchanting as I would have liked, but I think it will definitely be with an eye to the FSA's response with even greater lowering of their State Department into the closet. Revenge is a dish served cold ....
    And I think ours assumed that the consulates, the Americans would certainly cut one thing, and were ready for this, and therefore the game continues and now we are waiting either, as they say, a showdown, or an increase in rates ...
    WAIT'S wassat
  29. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 6 September 2017 04: 22
    +3
    Someone would have translated into Russian this abstruse word "concern" - very similar to "wiped the snot."
  30. 1536
    1536 6 September 2017 05: 36
    +1
    We will also pay the American court. The case was obviously lost, so even the Americans will let down the legal base for this, that everything was done correctly. The Americans understand only power, and they wanted to sneeze for some kind of lawsuit.
  31. bsk_una
    bsk_una 6 September 2017 08: 05
    +1
    Will the Foreign Ministry really go to court? I doubt it. Belief in Trump as the salvation of Russia has become kind of paranoid. Instead of thinking over an instant and effective response to Trump's actions, we are waiting for someone to come to their senses. The country's leadership knows arithmetic only at the level of subtract and divide, but the Foreign Ministry also knows these simple arithmetic operations.
  32. Nitarius
    Nitarius 6 September 2017 08: 44
    0
    Stocking up on popcorn! and we look .. THE FORK TURNS: Recognize - a shame, do not recognize, also a shame but already international! other countries will see it ... and the United States will not wash off this guy!
    1. igorj 51
      igorj 51 6 September 2017 09: 48
      0
      They admit it is a shame, they do not recognize it, it is also a shame, but already international! other countries will see it ... and the United States will not wash off this guy!

      It will be a shame for you. and for the entire so-called "international community" led by the United States, this will be presented as a victory of the Americans over the Russians .. I assure you that it will be so.
  33. Stas157
    Stas157 6 September 2017 08: 46
    +6
    MFA: Russia is ready to go to court because of the seizure of its property
    Whose court? American? And what will he award? Now, if the same situation happened with the United States, then I think that the country that dared to do this would not have gotten off with one court!
    All this is ridiculous ... I can imagine 1941, on June 23, an outraged Stalin is filing a European court over Germany's unjust attack on the USSR!
  34. Alex Justice
    Alex Justice 6 September 2017 12: 23
    0
    Quote: cniza
    Of course, this is not entirely comfortable, but their courts can knock on the President's head and not only him.

    Russia would have their courts!
  35. vandarus
    vandarus 6 September 2017 13: 45
    0
    It seems to me that it was "Mighty Superpower Response".