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Rogozin: increased demand for Russian diesel-electric submarines and small ships

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The demand for Russian surface ships with a displacement of 150-400 tons and diesel-electric submarines increased after their participation in the operations of the Russian Armed Forces in Syria, reports RIA News Post Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin.



If we talk about the Navy, then we have listed ships of relatively small displacement - this is approximately from 150 to 400 tons of displacement. These are, among others, the machines that performed perfectly during the anti-terrorist operation in Syria,
Rogozin said in an interview with the Russia 24 channel.

According to him, the Russian "ships demonstrated effective combat work and thereby increased export demand."

We all remember when, from the submarine, surface position and diesel-electric boats, our 636-th project, which in the West are called Black Hole, they fired Caliber missiles, while these volleys were fired from small rocket ships. And of course this kind of successful work, and yes even effectively demonstrated, is an important factor in pushing the market. And we have increased the number of orders, purchases of this kind of class of warships, submarines,
told the vice-premier.

He added that "our designers are able on ships with a relatively smaller displacement than, say, European and American ships, to place such a quantity weapons - make these ships literally goons. ”

That is, say, our corvette on arms is equal to a frigate. Our small rocket ship is equal to the western corvette, and so on,
Rogozin concluded.
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  1. bagr69
    bagr69 5 September 2017 16: 15
    +2
    Who would doubt a real demonstration of capabilities and effectiveness, and even in comparison with NATO counterparts.
    1. Nasrat
      Nasrat 5 September 2017 16: 23
      +7
      whoever pushed this prime minister to hell ... they arranged from the government of the Russian Federation, a clowning circus ..
      1. Thrall
        Thrall 5 September 2017 16: 32
        +6
        Rogozin, just don’t have to climb into the submarine for PR, otherwise it will be like the last time with the tank smile
        1. cniza
          cniza 5 September 2017 16: 40
          +2
          “That is, let's say, our corvette in armament is equal to the frigate. Our small rocket ship is equal to the western corvette and so on,
          Rogozin concluded.


          This he certainly famously wrapped up, well, for advertising.
          1. Stirbjorn
            Stirbjorn 5 September 2017 16: 51
            +1
            Quote: cniza
            This he certainly famously wrapped up, well, for advertising.

            this humanitarian does not know that on ships, except for missile armament (RCC), if there is air defense and anti-aircraft defense, and this is also very important
      2. Iaaa
        Iaaa 5 September 2017 16: 32
        +7
        Yeah. Rogozin loves loud boasts.
      3. kapitan92
        kapitan92 5 September 2017 16: 55
        +5
        Quote: Nasr
        whoever pushed this prime minister to hell ... they arranged from the government of the Russian Federation, a clowning circus ..

        "Pushed" dad - the son will take the position, everything is seized! laughing
        In fact, such statements by Rogozin should be confirmed by signed contracts for the supply of in. to the customer. Another blah blah official! hi
      4. bagr69
        bagr69 5 September 2017 17: 01
        +4
        whoever pushed this prime minister to hell ... they arranged from the government of the Russian Federation, a clowning circus ..
        It is a pity that all the great minds who know exactly how to actually do it are already working in other places (or already retired), and not in the government ...
        1. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek 6 September 2017 00: 47
          +5
          Quote: bagr69
          whoever pushed this prime minister to hell ... they arranged from the government of the Russian Federation, a clowning circus ..
          It is a pity that all the great minds who know exactly how to actually do it are already working in other places (or already retired), and not in the government ...

          or comments are rolling here !!! laughing laughing laughing laughing
    2. Bykov.
      Bykov. 5 September 2017 16: 32
      +4
      The Syrian army broke through the three-year blockade of Deir ez-Zora
      1. Bronevick
        Bronevick 5 September 2017 18: 49
        +1
        But what victims
        1. kos2910
          kos2910 6 September 2017 06: 31
          0
          Quote: Bronevick
          But what victims

          What is this for? There are always victims in war. Or are you one of those who say that there was no need to defend Leningrad, there would be no blockade of Deningrad, people would not starve to death? Well, you to the French, they have a lot of experience in surrender. Only this will not help them save the nation, soon instead of France there will be a French caliphate and a mosque on the site of Notre Dame
    3. APASUS
      APASUS 5 September 2017 19: 00
      +1
      Quote: bagr69
      Who would doubt a real demonstration of capabilities and effectiveness, and even in comparison with NATO analogues

      In NATO, a ship of up to 1000 tons is not considered a combat unit at all, and here again, the Russians broke everything
      1. bagr69
        bagr69 5 September 2017 23: 12
        +2
        Until recently, the "pickup" was not considered a combat unit until it was successfully launched by the terrorists in Syria to use it. So, let them consider what they want, and the practice of application is the practice of application.
  2. tiredwithall
    tiredwithall 5 September 2017 16: 16
    +4
    ships of relatively small displacement are quoted here - this is from about 150 to 400 tons of displacement

    They release and do well, therefore, they are quoted. Large ships will be launched - they will also be quoted. The country needs to throw off the financial noose from the owners of the money.
  3. irazum
    irazum 5 September 2017 16: 17
    +2
    But the demand for "trampolines" has not grown?
    1. Irokez
      Irokez 5 September 2017 16: 57
      +4
      Quote: irazum
      But the demand for "trampolines" has not grown?

      Grew up like. Our engines until 24-25 years old Americans strive to buy.
  4. g1v2
    g1v2 5 September 2017 16: 19
    +1
    If there is demand, then where are the new contracts? They will not be superfluous to shipyards.
    1. dvina71
      dvina71 5 September 2017 16: 24
      +2
      [
      Quote: g1v2
      If there is demand, then where are the new contracts?

      This will be answered in the administration of shipyards .. contact
      1. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 5 September 2017 16: 52
        0
        Quote: dvina71
        This will be answered in the administration of shipyards .. contact

        they will 100% offer to turn to the source, that is, to Mr. Rogozin himself, because you can’t hide the contracts for the Navy in a poke
        1. dvina71
          dvina71 5 September 2017 16: 57
          +1
          Quote: Stirbjorn
          no 100% will offer to refer to the source

          Well, this is not a bad option .., such requests must be processed by the FSB ..
    2. bolkodav68
      bolkodav68 5 September 2017 16: 59
      0
      and where did anyone build their shipyards?
  5. Holoy
    Holoy 5 September 2017 16: 34
    0
    RTOs are relevant only in Russia ... since they can also walk on rivers ...
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 5 September 2017 18: 13
      0
      Quote: Holoy
      RTOs are relevant only in Russia ... since they can also walk on rivers ...

      Many countries for which roar-sea ships are relevant, for example Brazil
  6. Herculesic
    Herculesic 5 September 2017 16: 36
    +2
    But what, on NATO frigates, there are also only eight cruise missiles each? recourse Bad joke from Ragozin sad
    1. bagr69
      bagr69 5 September 2017 23: 30
      0
      An Israeli destroyer had a couple of missile boats with the sonorous name of "mosquito" and a couple of missiles. So eight on how many ships will be enough with skillful use is not difficult to estimate.
  7. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 5 September 2017 16: 43
    +1
    And he doesn’t know that RTOs are 800 tons or more? Unfortunately, there are some in the government ...
  8. seos
    seos 5 September 2017 16: 44
    0
    “If we talk about the Navy, then we have listed ships of relatively small displacement - this is about 150 to 400 tons of displacement. These are, in particular, vehicles that showed themselves perfectly during the anti-terrorist operation in Syria,” I thought he’s a smart man .... "from 150 to 400 tons of displacement" - what is he talking about?
    1. dvina71
      dvina71 5 September 2017 17: 02
      +1
      About Raptor, Grachenka ..
      Rook is just 150t. Artillery Buyan -500 .. what's in between .. a riddle ..
  9. Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 5 September 2017 16: 49
    0
    And we have increased the number of orders, purchases of this kind, class of warships, submarines,

    What is he bearing again?! (((- what is the export demand, and even Varshavyank and MRK ?! Well, there are no new orders, except for the Indian Talwar
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 5 September 2017 17: 32
      +2
      Quote: Stirbjorn
      what export demand, and even Varshavyanka and RTOs ?!

      Well, RTOs from us, like Kazakhstan, ordered 6 pieces to the Caspian.
      And here about Varshavyanka - the train slowly floats away into the distance. Today everyone already needs NAPL with VNEU. The world market for this class of weapons is estimated by experts at about 400 units. But even the Indians will not buy them from us anymore. They have already put forward a demand for a tender - the presence of a VNEU boat. The first one we failed for precisely this reason. Therefore, the French pushed us with their Scorpions. But Hindi did not have enough money for the last 2 with VNEU. They are trying to put their own, but the Indians have a problem with this topic, as well as with the national IA.
      We have the opportunity to be in time if K * (Krylovtsy, Rubin and Lapis Lazuli) bring their working prototyap to the mind in time. A message about this recently appeared in the press.
      At the stand of the direction of hydrogen energy of the branch of TsNII SET, FSUE Krylov State Scientific Center (KSCC), located on the territory of the Primorsky Educational and Scientific Base of St. Petersburg State Medical University in the city of Primorsk, Leningrad Region, in March 2015 the state acceptance tests of the prototype battery were held based on solid polymer fuel cells (TPTE) BTE-50K. The BTE-50K prototype was developed and manufactured at the Central Research Institute of Computer Science and Technology branch of the Federal State Unitary Enterprise Krylovsky State Scientific Center under the State Contract with the Ministry of Industry and Trade of Russia as part of the design and development work to create a modular non-atomic non-volatile power plant with an electrochemical generator based on solid polymer fuel cells (TPTE) operating on converted diesel fuel and equipped with a system for the disposal of waste oxidation products for new generation marine equipment BTE-50 batteries operating on air and oxygen (air) are the basis of non-volatile power plants megawatt class and is a domestic innovative product of hydrogen energy. The tests were carried out with the participation of the management of the Federal State Unitary Enterprise Krylov State Scientific Center and representatives of the Ministry of Industry and Trade of the Russian Federation, as well as invited interested organizations - OJSC OSK, OJSC Central Design Bureau MT Rubin, OJSC Admiralty Shipyards, OJSC Central Design Bureau Lazurit, SPbGMTU, NIPOM OJSC and the National Association of Hydrogen Energy (NP NAVE). The creation of a non-volatile power plant (VNEU) for fifth-generation non-nuclear submarines of the Kalina project has been completed, according to the report of the Rubin Central Design Bureau for the 2015 year.
      Source: http://bastion-opk.ru/kalina.
      1. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 5 September 2017 20: 56
        0
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        Well, RTOs from us like Kazakhstan ordered 6 pieces to the Caspian

        Kazakhastan ordered only a small minesweeper and all ... according to rumors, they talked about Buyan alone, a few years ago, but it remained so
  10. bolkodav68
    bolkodav68 5 September 2017 17: 04
    0
    To be honest, I didn’t understand who they want to build for? if for us, then they have always been and will be needed. and if for foreigners? then we’ll suck our paw ourselves.
  11. NEXUS
    NEXUS 5 September 2017 18: 22
    +3
    We all remember when from the underwater, surface and diesel-electric boats our 636th project, which in the West is called the Black Hole, they fired Caliber rockets

    And I also remember that Lada and VNEU should have been transferred to the fleet for a long time ... and where is it? Okay, the submarines themselves Lada, VNEU where, Zin?
  12. Mikhail Zubkov
    Mikhail Zubkov 5 September 2017 19: 44
    0
    Storage of retired equipment from them is intelligently organized, we would have to learn. And the use of old technology, too. And the disposal would be arranged.