Lithuania is going to confront the “threat” from the Belarusian nuclear power plant

A document has been submitted to the Lithuanian Parliament (Sejm) that deals with very specific security issues. Thus, the document presents the concept of protection against "the threat potentially emanating from nuclear power plants in the Belarusian Astravets". The authors of the document are representatives of the Lithuanian Ministry of Energy, declaring that the Belarusian NPP emanates "a direct danger to the Baltic region".

Informational portal Delphi reports that a spokesman for the company Litgrid Gabriele Kluseni said about the "opportunity to negotiate with neighboring countries about the refusal to purchase electricity generated in the Republic of Belarus." Apparently, this is the main "answer" from a country that has buried its own atomic energy.

The Lithuanian Ministry of Energy reports that the power system should be synchronized through other EU countries, in particular, through Poland. This, according to official Vilnius, should lead to independence from the "pressure from the east."

In general, in Lithuania they cannot really explain what exactly the security of the Baltic States is threatened by the Belarusian NPP, the first power unit of which will be completed in the 2019 year. From Vilnius, only indignant remarks are constantly being heard that the BNPP is “just 50 km from the Lithuanian capital”, and that someone dictates something to Lithuania from the east.

Scheme of the power unit and the security system of the Project-2006 (BNPP):

(a photo press office BAES)

Comments

[oldseaman1957]

Lithuania is going to confront the "threat" from the Belarusian NPP "

- What, all Lithuanians will be given raincoats?

[RUSOIVAN]

Anti-nuclear fence !!

[oldseaman1957]

Quote: RUSOIVAN

Anti-nuclear fence !!

- They don’t have enough grandmas for the fence. Fence!

[Warlock_r]

Fence no way. Radiation through the holes will fly by.

[skrabplus.ru]

Dielectric chair!

[Thrall]

in Lithuania can’t explain exactly what exactly the safety of the Baltic states is threatened by the Belarusian NPP

Envy gnaws the brain, killing the remnants of the mind

[Hoc vince]

All over Europe, the countries are run by “cooks,” and as a result we have what we have.

[Pete mitchell]

Well, it's you in vain, no need to generalize. In some countries, 'at the helm' of 'ladies with low social responsibility'

[Pete mitchell]

Of course it’s eating: there is a lack of energy, a joint Lithuania / Latvia / Estonia / Poland station was not agreed to build like that, it remains to spoil the more successful neighbor - Belarus. Standard thinking of small farmers.
By the way, they have problems with each other, the Baltic states are like in Kralov’s fable: once a swan pike with a cancer back and forth ...

[LSA57]

Quote: oldseaman1957

- What, all Lithuanians will be given raincoats?

and lead pots on the heads

[LeonidL]

Weave anti-atomic bast shoes.

[Sofa expert]

This is the peak of insanity .. when will they be closed in ward number 6?

[Mountain shooter]

"In impotent rage" ... This is a correct understanding of the current moment ... The Lithuanians already realized that they had been thrown, but still did not understand, HOW much ...

[Smog]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Lithuanians already realized that they were thrown,

And it seems to me they have not understood yet.

August 21 2017
Today, the Lithuanian authorities are reporting on a big “energy victory”. The Clean Ocean tanker with liquefied natural gas arrived in the port of Klaipeda from the American Sabine Pass terminal (Louisiana). This is an American LNG, which was purchased on the basis of a contract from the United States by the Lithuanian company Lietuvos duju tiekimas. At least that's what they say in Lithuania itself.
Gas was ordered from the American company Cheniere Marketing International. The contract involves the supply of a total volume of about 140 thousand cubic meters of liquefied fuel.
In a few days, another gas carrier is expected to arrive in Klaipeda.

Now, if they bring gas from America, then who is stopping them from bringing electricity from there? How? And let their rulers decide this. For me it’s at least in bags, even in barrels. They can even in bulk. Let them dare ..

[bouncyhunter]

Kostya, hi! It is not BelAPS itself that impedes Lithuania, but the fact that it is a joint project with Russia. Russophobic hysteria continues.

[Smog]

Pasha! Ours to you and many times Listen, what are these "arbiters" of human destinies, Lithuanians? Well, all that bother them. Well, if they don’t like that Bel.AES is only 50km away. from the border, then let them carry it. I mean the border. So kilo-Meters for 300-400 (damn you need to see on the map whether there is enough territory for such a transfer?). Well, if you can’t live near us at all, they can move the whole Lithuania. Delov then?

[bouncyhunter]

They take an example from Poland - that’s it.

[Smog]

These "teach" ....

[bouncyhunter]

Yeah, our task is not to stop them from going their way to Hell.

[LSA57]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Yeah, our task is not to stop them from going their way to Hell

well, if only to help a little

[bouncyhunter]

So that they do not deviate from the course.

[Smog]

And let's put them on the Travel Cord, so that it would be more fun to go. And at the rate.

[LSA57]

Quote: Smog

Will there be enough territory for such a transfer?).

that's enough. but NATO planes will not be able to take off

[Pete mitchell]

pasha Belarusians will become non-volatile and with surpluses, but they couldn’t agree and build one station for four and have to buy: they certainly will stretch the cable across the ocean It seems to me here just a desire to spoil, well, to remind about myself, so as not to forget who is waving

[bouncyhunter]

Hello tramp! I already wrote on this topic: Latvia does not bay anything about BelAES, therefore I will not be surprised if Lithuania and Poland start buying our electricity from Latvia.

[Pete mitchell]

They have already made out Paul. Like in a children's joke: do you know how to fly?

[LSA57]

Quote: Smog

For me it’s at least in bags, even in barrels.

"Load the oranges in barrels. The Brothers Karamazov" (C) Ilf and Petrov. "Golden calf"

[Tusv]

Somehow unnatural against. You have to take off your pants and turn back to the west. And the West will put pressure on the Old Man: “You took off the last pants from honest Lithuanians” - that’s the only way, otherwise Griboiskalka will remain without a maid

[Skifotavr]

The Baltic regimes know only one thing: they need to whine all the time, and why and why is not important.

[Ingvar0401]

Lithuanians asked ..... whether their Ignalina nuclear power plant, and now their toad is strangling ....

[dedBoroded]

Another paranoid boltology

[Evgenijus]

Interestingly, how will the Lithuanians determine where electricity is generated on the world market for trade in this commodity? Does electricity smell? Or will the Belarusians each electron in the wires from their nuclear power plant be labeled either? Type in each kilowatt will be your EXIF, as in a specific digital photo?

[Hoc vince]

What do British scientists say about this?

[Stanislas]

Quote: Evgenijus

each kilowatt will have its own EXIF

All the electricity will go into the circuit ... it will become warm without EXIF

[Tolstoevsky]

put on foil caps

[kafa]

An electric current of "non-democratic frequency" causes "incredible tension" overload and mass breaks (here the underscore should be emphasized: patterns, brains, farts, trust in the ruling authorities)

[Kerensky]

A document has been introduced to the Lithuanian parliament (Sejm) that deals with very specific security issues. So, the document presents the concept of protection from the “threat posed by the nuclear power plant in the Belarusian Ostrovets”.

What kind of document? Who brought in? Was the concept washed?
That's what they want ?! I don’t like nuclear power plants, because it’s not being built with you!

[HEATHER]

Does anyone in the Lithuanian “government” think about nuclear energy? No, the owner ordered a yap and they drove away. Otherwise, they won’t get another cent.

[Pan_hrabio]

All this hysteria does not make much sense, but the feasibility of building a Belarusian nuclear power plant really has big questions. Belarus with a margin closes its needs with existing stations. Unintentionally extremely environmentally friendly: almost all run on Russian natural gas)

Total:
1) There is no one and a half time increase in energy production.
2) Neighbors either do not need energy, or will not buy for political reasons, or do not have the physical ability to buy. By the way, the European energy network has really different frequencies, the organization of the adapter on them is justified only with large volumes of energy export.
3) The commissioning of nuclear power plants will force some of the existing plants to be transferred to the hot reserve. Given that these are usually city-forming enterprises, we get a bunch of unemployed.

A little bit on the topic: https://news.tut.by/economics/558443.html

[XXXIII]

The future belongs to atomic energy! Gas, oil, it's a stone age! The gas and oil giants are clearly against nuclear power.

[Pan_hrabio]

I absolutely agree, except perhaps for the thermonuclear, when it will be possible to curb it. Still, practice has shown that conventional nuclear because of the associated costs are not too profitable, not even mentioning the problem of their costly disposal.

[Topotun]

Do you seriously think that Belarusians? And they don’t know how to count? I don’t think 80% of the cost of electricity in Belarus (according to their media) is from the cost of gas. Annual need - 4,5 billion cubic meters. Amount wow. The task of nuclear power plants is to replace these cubes with fuel for nuclear power plants. For the money will be much cheaper. In addition, Belarus buys part of the electricity in Russia, so they will produce their own. Believe me, they know how to count there too.

[XXXIII]

Yes, they’re doing the right thing, to reduce the industrial consumption of gas and oil whenever possible. In everyday life, to notice gas, for electricity, the savings will not be weak, it will probably come out in 50%.

[Pan_hrabio]

Yes, I seriously believe that the Belarusian nuclear power plant is more political than an economic project.

1) Belarus receives gas at low prices. Replacing dependence on Russian gas with dependence on uranium was an issue.
2) A loan for the construction of nuclear power plants about 10 billion dollars, plus an additional increase in the cost of construction. Give it to Belarusians. Or do you think this loan will not be included in the fat?
3) The costs of storage, transport and disposal of waste. We do not recall the painful moment of all nuclear power plants: cessation of operation.
4) Modernization of the power grid for a new station (after all, the existing lines are connected to existing stations), the transfer of part of the power plants to the hot reserve to secure nuclear power plants. All these ambitious plans to electrify everything and everything - all this also requires huge finances.
5) The inability to recapture value by selling energy. In Russia, there are enough NPPs near Belarus, in Europe they will not buy and there are no obvious prerequisites for changing this situation.

If all this is correctly calculated, it is likely that the nuclear power plant will be far from being such a profitable acquisition for Belarus, tormented by the economic crisis, which will only refinance its debts for a year instead of repaying them. And in the end, the very fact that at the highest level the authorities are only just beginning to search for the purpose of all this future additional electricity speaks volumes.

[Topotun]

Excuse me, what about politics here? What is the political gain of Belarus? And Belarus receives gas at low prices while it is an allied state. And if the dad (or the new president) wants to be completely independent in decisions? And stay away from Russia, but without breaking ties with it. You do not allow such an opportunity? Or do you think that in this case Russia will simply stop supplying gas? This will definitely not happen. As for the costs of storage and disposal costs. I did not delve into this topic so deeply, but there was information in the media that the cost of disposal of 1 ton of SRW is about 10000 euros. Plus shipping costs. All the same, the amounts go far from large. In addition, this procedure is not performed every day. Well, before the cessation of operation, it is still necessary to survive. The new station will work for 25 years.
In general, you can argue for a long time, I see no reason. I take Belarusians seriously and they know how to think. In the end, this is their decision and why someone is trying to change it ....

[Pan_hrabio]

I really didn’t quite apply the word politician, it is more about the fact that the current authorities decided to patch up something large-scale without looking back whether it is necessary. I also agree to end this debate, the whole point of my comments was only to illustrate that this project is far from so unambiguous. Thank you all for the answers!

[Topotun]

At all angles, hysteria: Russia is Russia, it is. And the farther the convulsive movement. It feels like the whole "democratic community" has been roofed together ..... Or still, someone is really pushing the world into yet another mess ... It would seem that you don’t want to be friends. There are cheaper goods from neighbors - buy and do your own thing. Raise children, build your own economy, especially since you cannot produce energy yourself. Not what. But for some reason everyone wants to overpay, but to show a neighbor a cookie ...

[evil partisan]

And then it will be like in the unforgettable film "The Adventures of Prince Florizel": "Of course, I will have dinner. But without any pleasure!". In the sense: they’ll climb to connect to this nuclear power plant (in the soul cursing Russia and its energy efficiency).

[Pan_hrabio]

Do not climb. The same Lithuania in recent years has bought scanty volumes from Belarus, and Poland, in order to use Belarusian energy, had to completely disconnect the region from the state power network due to the difference in frequencies.

[igordok]

Quote: noviczok

... because of the difference in frequencies.

More about the difference in frequencies. In Europe, everyone has the same frequency - 50Hz. The problem is in synchronization.

[Pan_hrabio]

I confess: I took the main information in my comments from memory from the article https://news.tut.by/economics/558443.html and, apparently, I was too drifted into an unfamiliar topic. The frequency is really the same in Europe, the problem is

frequency adjustment method

that is, the synchronization you mentioned is likely.

[APASUS]

So I would profit from these sheep from the Baltic if the Americans were in place. Because they basically do not care how much electric energy costs, the main thing is that it is American energy. I would pull a cable from the USA, well, it will cost $ 100 KW, but for the drum

[sharp-lad]

With the Lithuanians, everything is simple, Ignalinka was destroyed by meager disposition, later they tried to carry out the project of a new nuclear power plant, but .... where is the money Zin? And now, as an “aggressive” Russia, which is torn to shreds, the “aggressive” Russia is building an atomic power station that Lithuania cannot even dream of in dreams, and after launching the BPP, it can never (dream in dreams) as evil in the “backward” Belarus.

[kdakda]

In my opinion, Lithuania has already been irradiated))