Armed Forces of Poland adopted the first division of self-propelled howitzers "Crab"

The Ministry of Education and Science of Poland announced on August 31 an official ceremony of adopting the first divisional firing module "Regina" based on the 11-mm self-propelled howitzer "Krab" on the territory of the 155 th Mazury artillery regiment located in Węgorzewo.

The fully equipped division can now be fully used for its intended purpose as part of the Polish Ground Forces.

In December 2014, the Agency of Defense Procurement Programs of the Ministry of Defense of the Republic of Korea (DAPA) reported on Poland's order of K-9 self-propelled howitzer chassis modified in accordance with Polish requirements: 120 units. chassis (24 solid order + option on 96 units.). According to the terms of the agreement, the first batch of platforms should be produced in the Republic of Korea, and the subsequent chassis should be produced in Poland under license. The integration of the supplied K-9 chassis with the tower of the British 155-mm self-propelled howitzer AS-90 as part of the delivery program of the Polish Armed Forces self-propelled howitzer "Crab" is entrusted to the specialists of the company HSW "TSAMTO".

The Inspectorate for Armaments of the Ministry of Defense of Poland 14 in December 2016 of the year entered into a contract with HSW for the supply of the country's Armed Forces four divisional fire modules “Regina” based on 155-mm SG “Crab” (total 96 installations). The cost of the agreement was about 4,65 billion zlotys (1,1 billion dollars). The first nine 155-mm SG "Crab" on the new chassis were transferred to the Polish Armed Forces at the HSW 18 plant in November 2016.

In December, 2016, Hanwha Techwin signed a contract with HSW for the delivery of the K-96 “Thunder” K-9 tracked chassis to Poland. Its cost was 279,5 billion won (263,36 million dollars). The agreement provides for the supply of chassis from 2017 to 2023.

The 11 th Mazury Artillery Regiment became the first part of the Polish Armed Forces, which was equipped with the Regina divisional fire module. It includes 24 howitzer "Crab", three command and staff vehicles, eight fire control machines, six ammunition hauling trucks and one repair shop.

As expected, all ordered divisional fire modules will be adopted by the Polish Armed Forces for the 2024 year.

Comments

[CooL_SnipeR]

In a regiment of one-button brown ... arrived. They’re even called not far from crayfish ... they crawl, and these crab

[xetai9977]

Great SPGs! Some of the best in the world!

[Lopatov]

Quote: xetai9977

Some of the best in the world!

?
There is nothing special about them.
Although when compared with 2C1 - the main Polish SG - yes, a step forward.

[Berkut24]

Although when compared with 2C1 - the main Polish SG - yes, a step forward.

Now we need to compare with the "Coalition". And she went noticeably forward from K-9

[APASUS]

Quote: xetai9977

Great SPGs! Some of the best in the world!

The British AS-90 self-propelled guns is mounted on a Korean chassis. Created by Vickers in 1981-1986. During mass production from 1992 to 1995, 179 AS-90s were produced. It is in service with the UK only.
What is unique about her?
The chassis is Korean, the engine is German, the gun is English, and the howitzer is Polish!

[newcomer]

in light of recent events, Fritz can throw Poles with engines.

[Buffet]

Why is Poland a crab?

[Lopatov]

They have a series of new artillery weapons on seafood names there 8)))
120-mm self-propelled mortar "Cancer", 155-mm self-propelled guns "Crab" 155-mm SG on the Krill automobile chassis, modernized Grad under the name Langoustine and polonized American HIMARS under the name Omar

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: Spade

They have a series of new artillery weapons on seafood names there 8)))

What is this: a hint of a log position in front of visitors from either side?

[Lopatov]

Type of original. Under our "flower" and "river" mow.

[bouncyhunter]

Better to call their technique with all sorts of ailments. And in order to be incomprehensible - in Latin. I don’t know how in Latin “diarrhea” or “syphilis” will sound, but for them it will be exactly right.

[newcomer]

right now, schaub don't get off: lienterik diarrhea. like so.

[akims]

And the officers' sexual organ is a whale!
And the soldiers and non-commissioned - shrimp.

[newcomer]

at what was it?

[Aaron Zawi]

Excellent artillery system. With the implementation of the entire option, this will provide the Polish army with excellent artillery in the next decade.

[WHAT IS]

Well, that’s it ...I suggest giving up ...

[Lopatov]

Nevertheless, putting the SG into service, which is obviously lagging behind modern “automatic machines”, is not a very wise decision.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Spade

to put into service the SG, obviously lagging behind modern “automatic machines” is not a very wise decision.

Apparently not from a good life. And, by the way, one instance was run in the Donbass, in the ATO. This is her 155 mm BP "popped up" there periodically. Moreover, they ran in themselves, did not trust dill.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Paranoid50

Apparently not from a good life.

In the sense of "no money"? Could stupidly upgrade the existing 2C1, strengthen them again with relatively cheap “Krill”
And slowly begin to buy the same AGM from the Germans, installing on their own base. That would be a real breakthrough. Would be among the first. Together with us and, apparently, the Israelis. Well, partly by the Swedes, all the same, “Archer”, although it has the signs of a new generation, is very specific due to the microscopic transportable BC
Well, the Americans. They have already managed to develop two new generation SGs and abandon these developments, now it seems to be trying on the third project. Perhaps completely unmanned.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Spade

stupidly upgrade the existing 2C1

Duc, they’re getting out of their way in order to switch to NATO standards, and here is the “non-kosher” materiel. They will finish the resource - and into the furnace (or in the high school)

Quote: Spade

slowly begin to buy the same AGM from the Germans, installing on their own base.

Yes, their demon, Lyakhov will understand ... Perhaps, some games in the military-industrial complex there, fights of various lobbies.

Quote: Spade

Well, the Americans.

Quote: Spade

they are trying on the third project. Perhaps completely unmanned.

Well, good luck to them, let them pick. You’ll come to something. In the meantime, they and about a thousand "one hundred and ninth" is enough. Of these, like, about 500 are in storage.

[Fei_Wong]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Excellent artillery system.

Different from what exactly?

[Pirogov]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Excellent artillery system. With the implementation of the entire option, this will provide the Polish army with excellent artillery in the next decade.

I would say good, but at the same time there is nothing outstanding in it. Although, again, with what to compare, if the Poles will be able to make a shell under it with a range of how they plan to 70km it will certainly be super. But I do not believe in it.

[WHAT IS]

Go to the ATO, piragoff.

[Pirogov]

Quote: WHAT IS

Go to the ATO, piragoff.

And you go to .............

[forester]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Excellent artillery system. With the implementation of the entire option, this will provide the Polish army with excellent artillery in the next decade.

I’m not sure that Poland will exist in the next decade - they are greyhound again, but history is cyclical, and they are no warriors - a vivid personification of the pshek the boxer of the goal - got a pug and fled the ring))))

[Topotun]

Sorry, but the artillery in the troops is far from being made solely by the installations themselves. Although, for example, our MSTA-S in the export version (under a 155 mm gun) has slightly better characteristics. For example, by rate of fire. 10 rounds per minute versus 3. The same range. And surely the same thing can be said about the art systems of other countries. The main thing is whether combat crews can use their weapons. Do commanders know how to use artillery system data tactically. How is the cover of batteries organized, the transportation of ammunition, etc., etc ...
So to evaluate just a tool does not make much sense.
The question is in whose hands the Georgians threw everything they had. And Arabs sometimes do the same ....

[san4es]

Armed Forces of Poland adopted the first division of self-propelled howitzers "Crab"

[aws4]

I’m confusing something, but it seems like they had their own sau developed and not quite bad ...

[Lopatov]

They did not have and do not have their own. Well, in addition to a rather interesting complex of 100 mm mortars of the time of the NDP

[To be or not to be]

History The Polish leadership does not teach anything.al ..

[Thunderbolt]

The comparison is not entirely correct, because in the 39th Poland was “between two fires” and dumbly divided. And now it is the vanguard and the front line of NATO, the whole of united Europe. And there is not even a hint that the Polish armed forces can be expelled from NATO and how then they will again be in the middle. On the contrary, NATO’s top leadership in every possible way helps the Poles to increase their combat effectiveness and Poland becomes a noticeable player in the region, shifting the balance of forces. You won’t dismiss this fact ---

[Lopatov]

Quote: Thunderbolt

Not quite a correct comparison, because in the 39th Poland was "between two fires" and it was stupidly divided.

Soyuznichki infested the USSR, and then did nothing ...

[Thunderbolt]

I see it this way: then --- Poland was between the Reich and the Soviets; now --- Poland itself is already part of the "Reich" by which I understand NATO. The situation is a little different, you must agree.
Is it possible that the Yankees, British and others will again betray Poland ..? I do not exclude a similar option: by preserving military cooperation, the USA can “cut off” the Visegrad four countries with the Baltic states from the bloc or even politically dissolve NATO in order to start a series of regional wars on our borders with the medium-term goal of military weakening of our country by drawing various intensities into these conflicts. But I see this as the most cunning plan. As long as there are signs that something threatens NATO unity, unfortunately ...

[Lopatov]

Quote: Thunderbolt

I see it this way: then --- Poland was between the Reich and the Soviets

The British then betrayed them for the first time, "not paying attention" to the actions of the USSR, and Germany declared a formal "strange war"
Then they betrayed for the second time, using in Italy as a pushmash along with the "colonial"
Then they betrayed for the third time, surrendering Poland to Stalin in the sphere of interests of the USSR
Then they betrayed for the fourth time, forcibly sending to the NDP all those pilots, sailors and infantry who fought for them.

That's how they are used to doing this with the “allies”. And it always has been.

[Fei_Wong]

Quote: Thunderbolt

Not quite a correct comparison, because in the 39th Poland was "between two fires" and it was stupidly divided

Nonsense.
Just Poland was one of the main instigators of this epic Machach called WWII. I recommend recalling how, before the “partition” of Poland, she herself shared Czechoslovakia with Germany, having bitten off a small but extremely industrialized piece of Tieszyn Silesia. The piece was VERY tidbit.

[Thunderbolt]

Historically, everything is true, but you are talking about causes, and I'm talking about consequences.

[Fei_Wong]

Well yes. But without causes, it does not happen. The consequences just do not appear.

[Thunderbolt]

I have no doubt that the Soviet leadership in the 39th and before the 41st did everything possible to delay the time and maximize the security of the USSR from a major war. And if not prevented, then at least prepare the country for the impending clash with the Germans. One of such measures was the liberation campaigns of the Red Army. The occupation of new western borders was extremely risky in terms of the dispersal of our troops, but as the Second World War showed, such an operational construction not only forced our advanced armies to act in isolation from our main forces, but it still and at the cost of high courage, a considerable part of the Germans' forces was riveted to themselves, the power of their blows was smeared. They made us "cauldrons", but they themselves cooked in these "cauldrons", because the whole point of their strategy was to lighten the advance of their troops, and which should there be a concentration of strikes if the German infantry could not cope and their moving parts and aircraft were massively involved in activities in secondary areas? Is this the reason for our actions in the 39th (let us leave these Poles for a while). And these are quite logical, historically correct measures taken for the defense of our country. Our party leaders of those years made such a serious decision just as the Russian tsars or greats who had made them before made such decisions. the princes of our Ancient Russia --- in the West there is a threat to Russia, therefore, before the outbreak of the war and the most general battle, the Russian army occupies outposts of buffer lands and countries. And we do not need to be ashamed of this fact, to dissemble and hide this fact from these buffer countries. , they should know that in any situation, pursuing a hostile-aggressive policy against Russia, they will be inevitably hit and only lose more than they gain ... But such appeals to the "reason of the peoples" are useless, because the paradox is that any people absolutely defenseless from the cannibalistic actions of their politicians, from the harsh laws of geopolitics. After all, as in cattle everything happened in the last century: Europe survived a monstrous meat grinder, only licked its wounds and again the fronts (only more fronts), again the bombing (only caliber more deadly), again all of Europe was covered with corpses, the whole world died every day and was reborn again. ..What were Hitler’s reasons for the June 22 attack? After all, there was a whole range of reasons, it was such a ball woven from the political intrigues of overseas instigators and (in their opinion) virtuosos of the political game, from the greedy desires of German bankers and industrialists and a whole bunch it’s mixed in. But I would like to transfer all these bespectacled gimmers and the whole blond beast of the lowest rank from June 22nd to Berlin on the 45th: to show how such trips to the East end. It’s a big disaster for people that they don’t remember the last war and dutifully accept the future.

[Fei_Wong]

Quote: Thunderbolt

What were Hitler’s reasons for the June 22 attack? After all, there was a whole complex of reasons, it was such a ball woven from the political intrigues of overseas instigators and (in their opinion) virtuosos of the political game, from the greedy desires of German bankers and industrialists and a lot of everything was mixed there .

Weakly said. Recall the same Dunkirk (by the way, just recently there was an anniversary, and the film from Nolan came out - it was also disassembled at VO). Why did Hitler overlook the British? Because he was still hoping for an (promised to him earlier) alliance with the Britons. He personally ordered his troops to slow down and not overturn the encircled group at sea. This is where the legs of the “miracle under Dunkirk” grow (to which even Churchill had to besiege the British press that had traveled with the words that “war cannot be won by evacuation”).

And here on the site very often they also dismissively comment on their moral-volitional qualities or combat capabilities of their models of equipment and troops. But this already annoys me

Well bumblebee ... Something seriously annoying me too. Not even that - it’s just BEASTLY BRAZES. Or tolerate, or write rebuttals. I’m probably about how I’ll have free time, and I’ll do it alone. You can look at my today's comment here in this thread, if you wonder what exactly really infuriates me: https://topwar.ru/123789-leytenant-vsu-rasskazal-
o-tom-kak-unichtozhal-rossiyskiy-tank.html

[asiat_61]

"between two fires" and it was stupidly divided ....... No need to blunt, and will not be divided.

[forester]

Quote: To be or not to be

History The Polish leadership does not teach anything.al ..

Of course he doesn’t teach and will not teach — such a breed — no one will characterize them better than Satanovsky’s mine - “Poland is the Yokshire Terrier - he hates everyone, is afraid of everyone, trembles, and barks at everyone in the presence of his master.

[Bronevick]

It would be better if 2000 panzergaits bought

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Better, but for what ?! It turns out that one self-propelled gun will cost Poland $ 15 million (this is only the cost of the chassis and a firearm), but all this must be serviced, repaired, provided with ammunition, in the case of a German self-propelled gun it would have been even more expensive ... The Germans had already pricked them with " free "Leopards))) ...

I don’t understand at all why Poland should order a self-propelled gun abroad ?! It seems that the country is not small, or the Poles are lazy in the land, they don’t want to do anything ?! This is not a fighter, after all, there will be a lot of artillery during the war, and with this approach 120 of these self-propelled guns will not help them ...

[Mu Dialer]

Taperich will go to them from Germany to knock out money

[steelmaker]

Each piece is 11.5 million. $ A little expensive though.

[Mu Dialer]

The main thing is why, against the nuclear RF, all one Poles are powerless, and they supposedly have no other potential opponents.

[MadCat]

Quote: Mu Diazwon

The main thing is why, against the nuclear RF, all one Poles are powerless, and they supposedly have no other potential opponents.

well, there will be less temptations of nuclear Russia to “free" the Poles. And Russia is not the only country with nuclear weapons, this club is not exclusive.

[Mu Dialer]

The temptation to “free" the Poles exists only in your head.
In the war between Poland and the Russian Federation (hypothetical), Poland will lose instantly, because it does not have nuclear weapons, and no one will fight because of it (new September 1939 in general).

[pafegosoff]

Showed on TV howitzers send three shells along different trajectories to one point, which fall simultaneously

[Holoy]

More powerful than ours ...

[AlexKP]

In which place?

[Alena767]

Again off topic, but important: The media wing of the ISIS Hunters division just announced that after fierce fighting, the Syrian fighters succeeded in freeing the city of Akerbat from the terrorists at the junction of the Hama and Homs provinces.
With the support of the Russian Aerospace Forces, an elite formation of government forces drove the militants out of their main stronghold in Central Syria.
After the capture of the most important ISIS fortress, the defeat of terrorists in the Akerbat boiler will inevitably be completed in the near future.

[Old26]

Quote: steel maker

Each piece is 11.5 million. $ A little expensive though.

Of course expensive. The cost of the K-9 howitzer is $ 3,9 million, the AS-90, like the PzH-2000, is $ 4,5 million. For the same money for which they buy their "Crab", they could have 3 K-9 or 2 AS-90 or PzH-2000. But they are wise ...

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Quote: Mu Dialer

The main thing is why, against the nuclear RF, all one Poles are powerless, and they supposedly have no other potential opponents.

There would be a howitzer, but there would be an adversary. Look at Ukraine can chop off Lviv. Ukraine, than not the enemy ....

[Mu Dialer]

Yeah, I agree, and therefore wrote "allegedly."

[Lopatov]

Quote: Old26

Of course expensive. K-9 howitzer cost $ 3,9 million

Much less. You probably just divided by the number of howitzers, but you can’t
The cost of four "Regin" is indicated. Each one looks something like this:

[Simon]

Quote: SHVEDsky_stol

Why is Poland a crab?

Yes, because the crab never comes and does not attack, but always tries to escape! So Poland, always sharpening its hair, wants to seem formidable, but as it smells fried, it tries to flee!

[Simon]

Quote: Old26

Quote: steel maker

Each piece is 11.5 million. $ A little expensive though.

Of course expensive. The cost of the K-9 howitzer is $ 3,9 million, the AS-90, like the PzH-2000, is $ 4,5 million. For the same money for which they buy their "Crab", they could have 3 K-9 or 2 AS-90 or PzH-2000. But they are wise ...

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Quote: Mu Dialer

The main thing is why, against the nuclear RF, all one Poles are powerless, and they supposedly have no other potential opponents.

There would be a howitzer, but there would be an adversary. Look at Ukraine can chop off Lviv. Ukraine, than not the enemy ....

Why lions chop off! He will soon get away from such a government.

[AlexKP]

Not like that. So the Lvivites will become divisions and Ukrainians will irradiate them with UV rays from a twelve-meter tower as in the Crimea, but because in Poland it is not customary to put a pan on the head, the impact will have disastrous consequences.

[Simon]

Quote: Holoy

More powerful than ours ...

More powerful than our Iskanders yet!

[Venceremos]

Quote: Simon

More powerful than our Iskanders yet!

Hah

А STRENGTH OF MIND ? ... Is this not the most powerful and indestructible weapon of the Russians?

[Old26]

Quote: Simon

Why lions chop off! He will soon get away from such a government.

No, he will not get away. This is not patsansky, not Maidan. But to select it by armed means, so that the maydanute ofanarels are a completely different matter

[Old26]

Quote: Spade

Much less. You probably just divided by the number of howitzers, but you can’t

No. Just looked english-speaking wiki

[Tolstoevsky]

Arm, don't arm, won't last longer than three weeks

[MKPU-115]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Excellent artillery system. With the implementation of the entire option, this will provide the Polish army with excellent artillery in the next decade.

Only there is no one to fight with this artillery, well, if only with Ukraine for Lviv.

[MKPU-115]

Quote: Thunderbolt

The comparison is not entirely correct, because in the 39th Poland was “between two fires” and dumbly divided. And now it is the vanguard and the front line of NATO, the whole of united Europe. And there is not even a hint that the Polish armed forces can be expelled from NATO and how then they will again be in the middle. On the contrary, NATO’s top leadership in every possible way helps the Poles to increase their combat effectiveness and Poland becomes a noticeable player in the region, shifting the balance of forces. You won’t dismiss this fact ---

They will set him up again, and then they will throw them, only the consequences can be more tragic, one rocket - one European state minus.

[MKPU-115]

Quote: Tolstoevsky

Arm, don't arm, won't last longer than three weeks

It depends on who they are going to fight, but they may not even last 15 minutes.

[Olegovi4]

and ammunition will also be imported or put the line?

[Grach-25sm]

But this is already really relevant and interesting. Although it is possible to enter in a different way - they take 155, because 152 have long remained in the Donbass.

[bald]

And who are you going to fight with? Ukraine is worth considering. Yes, and other neighbors. (Kaliningrad does not count).

[Grach-25sm]

Given that conventional artillery is traditionally one of the most conservative branches of the armed forces, then yes, Krabiki is a good step forward. But I like something “Dana” more.