Kiev: We will exchange important data on the MH17 crash with the Netherlands

Deutsche Welle reports that Ukraine and the Netherlands have agreed to exchange “important data” about the crash of the Malaysian “Boeing” in the Donbas in 2014 year. It does not specify what influenced the exchange of “important data” as much “soon” - more than three years have passed since the catastrophe that claimed nearly three hundred lives ...

The exchange of data between Ukraine and the Netherlands on Ukrainian TV is reported by the Deputy Foreign Minister of Ukraine, Elena Zerkal. At the same time, Zerkal declares that this exchange fits in with the preparation for filing a claim against the Russian Federation.

Deputy Foreign Minister of Ukraine:

The Dutch do not want the work being done to be questioned. We are currently working on signing a memorandum on the exchange of information, since the downed Boeing is part of our claim to Russia regarding the financing of terrorism, namely the supply weapons for hitting this aircraft.

Ms. Zerkal is silent on one important detail: first, the international commission accepted the data from the Russian Federation, and only now Ukraine is going to provide its data. I wonder whether among these Ukrainian data there will be answers to previously posed questions about the actions of the Dnepropetrovsk dispatchers on the fact of carrying out an airplane over the epicenter of the battles, on finding air defense calculations of the Ukrainian armed forces in the strike zone of the aircraft, and why provided information about the interpretation of the negotiations of the Ukrainian dispatchers with the crew of MH17?

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[Colonel]

Have you written a confession?

[CARLSON]

No, an official statement
"Rafik is not to blame"

[Tatyana]

The Netherlands does not care who exactly is to blame for the crash of their plane - Ukraine or Russia! The Netherlands is important exactly which of them is solvent! And since Ukraine is a bankrupt country, a beggar country, there’s nothing to take from Ukraine anyway! Another thing is Russia, which has money! Therefore, the Netherlands will demand money from Russia.
Thus, the Netherlands will not blame the one who is guilty - not Ukraine, but the one who can pay compensation - the same Russia, although in this case it has nothing to do with it!
The Netherlands are the same forgers as Ukraine, and the same crooks!

[APASUS]

Quote: Tatiana

The Netherlands does not care who exactly is to blame for the crash of their plane - Ukraine or Russia! The Netherlands is important exactly which of them is solvent! And since Ukraine is a bankrupt country, a beggar country, there’s nothing to take from Ukraine anyway! Another thing is Russia, which has money! Therefore, the Netherlands will demand money from Russia.

Too complicated process and risky enough! The fact is that Russia still has engineers, experts and a bit of science, and how difficult it is for the Papuans to rub that it was Buk, and the hole was from a sledgehammer.
The United States simply oversees its project at the highest level, just pushing Europe hindered the opening of information. And for this information, holding the whole Powder team like Faberge.
As soon as his time passes, we will immediately find out the truth

[Tatyana]

APASUS
The United States simply oversees its project at the highest level, just pushing Europe hindered the opening of information. And for this information, holding the whole Powder team like Faberge.

I do not think that here the Dutch are guided only by American dictatorship. They, like the Poles in Katyn, seek to withdraw from Russia a round sum for the dead. The parasitism of some countries in other countries is now in favor and in the political trend.
Now Poland is demanding compensation for WWII from Germany, restitution from Ukraine, and Russia for Katyn. The Baltic countries demand compensation from the Russian Federation for their "occupation" by the USSR. Ukraine claims to the Russian Federation for compensation for destroyed by the Armed Forces and national battalions of the DPR and LPR. Etc.
T.O., US dictatorship to the European Union and the greed of the EU countries themselves as "European hyenas" are quite combined with each other. Why don't the “European hyenas” devour another European country weakened by the United States, if possible ?! At the same time, the Netherlands is the same predator as Poland, Germany, France, Ukraine, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, etc., only perhaps a little more modest. The capitalist countries of the West are essentially the same!

[APASUS]

Quote: Tatiana

US dictatorship to the European Union and the greed of the EU countries themselves as "European hyenas" are quite combined with each other. Why don't the “European hyenas” devour another European country weakened by the United States, if possible ?! At the same time, the Netherlands is the same predator as Poland, Germany, France, Ukraine, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, etc., only perhaps a little more modest. The capitalist countries of the West are essentially the same!

Everything is very primitive and the catch is that if money were needed, the choice would sooner have fallen to Ukraine. Such a moment for blackmail, and Ukraine would have found money for any or adequate substitute. All the land of Ukraine is a real commodity.
But to demand money from Russia, a country with a second army of the world and a country with nuclear weapons? Don’t tell me, did you get a lot of dogs from the royal table? (I hope you don’t need to name the dogs?)

[cniza]

True, the road will be broken sooner or later, but the junta will answer for everything.

[vkl.47]

Show records of dispatchers. The rest is a dirty lie

[MoJloT]

Passed the photo undeniably proving the guilt of Russia and some officials specifically!

[rotmistr60]

Ukraine and the Netherlands agree to exchange “important data”

Not even three years have passed. Obviously, Ukraine began to overwhelm after the transfer of our data. Now they will once again turn to the wrong side “proving” Russia without blame. And it’s time for the Dutch themselves to prosecute for red tape, juggling facts and falsifying data.

[zhekazs]

First of all, you need to be held accountable, amerz, according to their scenario, the plane was shot down, in my opinion. And where is the same plane with passengers missing before in the Indian Ocean? Where are the passengers themselves, their corpses? There are a lot of questions. In fact, for all such crimes, Amerza should be brought to justice of all mankind, to pay reparations and compensations to Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq, Serbia. To give the States under the external control of the UN so that the country works by repaying debts for its crimes to the whole world. Let it be so!

[voyaka uh]

“And where is the same plane with passengers missing before in the Indian Ocean?” ///

Its wreckage was found near Madagascar. They were just not looking at the beginning.

[Monarchist]

Quote: colonel

Have you written a confession?

What a dreamer you are. As you know, the giraffe on the seventh day comes to the heart of the matter, and to them in three years. Three years ago, they asked about dispatchers' negotiations, but they forgot the essence and ask again

[SeregaBoss]

And when will overseas truth-seekers provide their iron evidence? that’s what’s important, and the important sixes data for sixes is nothing more than mouse fuss!

[anjey]

political false demogogy continues on the deaths of ordinary people ... in this policy of the West there is nothing human and it’s true that there is no hurry to triumph among them, another performance on the bones ..

[Captain Nemo]

Interesting, but on the data transmitted by Russia, did they also draw Dry? I’m still ashamed of that disgrace ... Really our military leaders do not understand that having lied once, then you lose the right to faith for a long time

[cniza]

What did you mean ? share information.

[vasilev]

For the military, this was one of the probable reasons before a more detailed investigation, it was the television people who picked up this version and began to spin it around the box as the main one.

[Kondratko]

Like flies here and there
There are rumors about home
And toothless old women
They are carried to the minds ...
| V.S. Vysotsky |

[Kondratko]

Nemo, you will not deny that the picture with the painted airplane was a cheap stuffing, or was it a statement from official sources (not from Prokopenko)?

[Anton Boldakov]

Yes, it is unlikely that for us the positive is expected from Holland. They have already decided everything. With a probability of 98% -the Russians will be guilty. Unless, of course, critical force majeure occurs.

[Slon_on]

In my opinion, Russia has irrefutable killer evidence of Kiev's involvement in the destruction of MH17, but it is necessary to keep them for now, like a joker, before the tribunal. For more than 3 years, the Dutch and others have been sewing a case, but it doesn’t work out, it’s a bit scary to indict.

[Anton Boldakov]

Well, you also understand the Dutch - now everyone knows. that it’s fashionable to blame Russia for all sins ... But it’s clear. that sooner or later the ка otvetka ’will go. And the extreme in such matters is reluctance.

[Gamer]

there is irrefutable killer evidence of the involvement of Kiev

there is nothing. What would draconian sanctions endure, loss of image, and they began precisely after MH17? and this stupid crap from Leontyev with the Su-27 against the sky from Yandex cards for 201. year?
IMHO, a documentary concocted on his knee about the journey of Buka (with video recorders) in the Russian Federation and the Lugansk-Donetsk region looks much more believable than ORTs handicrafts and rocket explosions near the dummy IL-86

[Anton Boldakov]

But do not you think that it is beneficial for Russia, excuse me for cynicism, to hold the evidence until the moment when this farce is put to an end? Imagine what will happen if, after the Dutch decision on Russia's fault in the destruction of the Boeing, the Russian Federation will lay out evidence of intentional forgery of evidence, sabotage of the investigation and bias of European investigators? It will be a most terrible scandal - Ukraine will be thrown out of the EU without any sort of harm (for the EU is much more important for the EU to save its own honor and dignity) and even the most prestigious EU will be hit hard. So that...

[Bert]

Key facts will be revealed at the tribunal in The Hague. This is a secret before. Who led the Ukrainian fighter. Who gave the order for the destruction. By the way, the pilot saw perfectly that it was a passenger side. It’s not clear why we should block this tribunal? On the contrary, it was necessary to be the first to propose such measures so that it would no longer be common to shoot down civilian aircraft. Like the Nuremberg trial of criminals. That just do not do something to discredit us.

[Slon_on]

I wonder where they have an incubator for growing such? Direct mirror image of his boss.

[avg-mgn]

Dear forum users, please note: "We are currently working on the signing of a memorandum of information exchange, since the downed Boeing is part of our lawsuit against Russia regarding the financing of terrorism, namely the supply of weapons to destroy this aircraft.“There is not even a hint at the question that was originally asked - who pressed the button. It was made in the USSR, that is, in Russia, and now all other questions are supposedly not important.

[Vita vko]

Quote: avg-mgn

note:

The officials of the Kiev junta, having seized upon the authorities, cannot speak otherwise. Even if their conscience suddenly wakes up, they will simply be destroyed by Bandera.
In this case, the MN-17 still remains a lot of incomprehensible, including, for unclear reasons, the reasons for the decision of Kiev to shoot down a civilian plane are not published. But after all it was not just a provocation, as they want to imagine, there was a real hunt for a Russian ship that flew literally 5 km and judging by the trajectory signs it was the lettered Il-96. The Ukrainian calculation of the air defense system hurried a little and captured the target, which was closer in oblique range. Probably, in that region, in order to conspire with the terrorist activities of Kiev, the air defense control systems in the conflict area were simply not deployed, and in manual mode it is almost impossible for the operator to direct the Buk air defense systems to figure out where and what is flying. So he lupanul in what was closer.

[Gamer]

casket just opened - shot down by accident

[Paranoid50]

Hmm, dill decided to release the "analogue" of our Mary, Ms. (Za) Mirror. So yes, Klimka - he does not knit two words.

[LeonidL]

I wonder what these "data" represent, that they have been preparing for so long? New screenshot options? Rewritten reports? Painted cards?

[demo]

If the United States and the entire "progressive public" did not react to tens of thousands of people killed in the ATO, if the same USA did not give rise to proceedings not only about the "behavior" of Ukraine in the pre-election period, but also about the appearance of improved DPRK engines, which specifically threatens what the Americans are scampering over with "written shells" - NATIONAL SECURITY (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) Oh my God, then some 300 people are " easy misconduct. "
For him, no one will do anything to anyone.

Impunity leads to permissiveness.
But since it was not the Ukrainian authorities themselves who came up with this (I do not believe it), but the curators advised them, the proceedings will have an accusatory bias towards the Russian side.

Surprisingly different.
Why Russia, possessing significant confirmed data, did not create a parallel international commission that could at least somehow influence the course of the proceedings.
There are more than enough reasons for such a commission — from the removal of charges against us (BUK - Russian) to the credibility of our aviation services (IAC) and our developers of the same BUK.
Yes, there are a hundred reasons.
But we are silent.
Modestly so stand in the corner and streamline.
How much more slop should be poured on us so that those in power have a desire to defend the good name of their country?