JDC is ready to create an engine for a high-speed helicopter in one year

A prototype engine for a high-speed helicopter with an order can be created in a year, Interfax-AVN the message of the general designer of JSC "ODK-Klimov" Alexei Grigoriev.

If an order is available, we will be able to provide the first prototype of the VK-2500М engine quite quickly, almost within a year.

said Grigoriev to the agency.

He noted that “the engine will be able to be installed not only on a high-speed helicopter, but also on already existing models of helicopter technology”.

However, such an engine can be created only with “adequate funding”.

In August, Deputy Defense Minister Yury Borisov announced that a high-speed helicopter should reach speeds of around 400 km / h.

The Ministry of Defense has long set the task for Russian helicopter pilots, for the Russian Helicopters holding company to create a new conceptual platform for a combat army helicopter that will have other speed characteristics so that cruising speed is within 400 km / h,

he said.

Borisov noted that the flying laboratory created by the holding "is already approaching these speeds."

Earlier it was reported that "Russian Helicopters" signed a contract with the military department to form the concept of a high-speed combat helicopter (SBV).

Comments

[Mavrikiy]

Order? ..... This is not here. Here will be an application from ... even India.
But MO is ... in general, they have everything.

[maxim947]

Just the same, everything should start with orders, no one will just come up with anything. The military voiced the requirements, performance characteristics, then the competition and forward. Only there are two diseases that we can’t defeat so far, these are the terms that are constantly leaving to the right and the increase in the cost of the project.

[kapitan92]

Quote: maxim947

Just the same, everything should start with orders, no one will just come up with anything.

Everything should start with the TTZ issued by the customer (MO).

Why shouldn’t the Klimovites proactively make a dvigun and offer it to the Customer?
In fact, they are monopolists in this field.

[ProkletyiPirat]

the drawing is beautiful, it's a pity only this structure does not work :(

[maxim947]

Believe me, that's how it works

[ProkletyiPirat]

what's the difference how it works there on paper? what matters is that there is no result! No, I'm lying, there is a result! and it consists in wasting money on useless trash and the refusal to finance the development / procurement of really needed samples.

[maxim947]

Blah blah blah again prosralipolymers ... get down already. All will be.

[ProkletyiPirat]

blah blah blah first "mighty USSR" prosral development of personal computers
blah blah blah then the “mighty USSR” prosral the development of the Internet
blah blah blah then the “mighty USSR” prosral the development of GPS
all three technologies were offered more than once in the USSR long before they appeared in the USA, but no one needed this
what can I say, we still can’t master even the banal passage to container containers, but we have built up a bunch of overflow-filling stations and railway platforms to them, and now we are sitting and complaining “the tanks didn’t arrive” and this was in peacetime ! and how war will one rocket destroy the railway bridge and everything, the entire flow of goods would take weeks and months, and if container containers would be loaded onto tractors and delivered by another route, either directly to the consumer, or to another branch \ d, or corny tractors across the pantone bridge threw containers to the other side. And there have been thousands and millions of such shoals since Soviet times. And in Russia it’s the same thing, a few years ago I met two off-road fans, they came up with a way to increase the cross-country ability of the equipment and at the same time increase its protection (first of all, BTR \ BMP \ BMD) and they offered their MO development, they even money they didn’t ask (the former warriors themselves), the quote “take it and do it, we don’t need anything”, but they were sent to them in a distant way, people suffered for several years, eventually spat and sent it to the very same schools, and today without mats they don’t remember about it. And today the same thing is happening, they recently ordered the BMPT Terminator, no, maybe the thing is necessary, but why buy a tank + BMPT if you can buy two tanks? There are at least several options for installing weapons from the “terminator” on a regular T72 with the same turret replacement, while the resulting tank will be better than the BMPT, and why the hell do you need this BMPT?
and so yes "everything will be, you just hold on"

[maxim947]

They can do this, but as a normal seller they would like their goods to be bought later. It’s quite a normal desire. And not just small funds are needed for the development itself and further tests. And the TTZ about which you wrote above is a task that is given to an already selected artist. At the beginning of the competition with their truncated tasks (also TTZ), which are developed by the corresponding research institutes of the Ministry of Defense. An exception is if the company is included in the list of sole suppliers, a contract with them directly. By orders, I did not mean GK.

[kapitan92]

Quote: maxim947

And the TTZ about which you wrote above is a task that is given to an already selected artist. At the beginning of the competition with their truncated tasks,

JSC "UEC - Klimov" monopolists in the development and production of gas turbine engines in Russia! Which contest?
Can you name a competitor?

[maxim947]

Nobody argues with you, I wrote about the general organization of work preceding the conclusion of the Civil Code. There are no competitors, and Klimov is probably included in the list of sole suppliers. So let MO agree on TTZ and conclude a contract for the development of a HELICOPTER, and climate will be the second in this cooperation.

[Vladimir16]

Competition is from the evil one. From the same WTO opera. These are only methods of capturing the market, and in this case, capturing budget funds.
All enterprises manufacturing aircraft in Russia are created by the state. To compete with oneself is the destiny of M. Udak.
The efficient owner distributes orders to specialists.
Well, the cows in the herd are not for competition, but to increase milk yield.

[maxim947]

It depends on the organization of management and finance. Under the Union, there are a lot of positive examples of healthy competition between design bureaus, in space and aviation, including, but somewhere I agree it is not necessary and even impossible, as she is such an example as an Asterisk.

[AUL]

JDC is ready to create an engine for a high-speed helicopter in one year

Such applications can be made only if there is a VERY serious backlog. I would like to hope that the UEC has it!

[ved_med12]

I wanted to say the same thing ... Looks like they already have ready-made designs that can only be "assembled in hardware" ...

[VAZ2106]

Yuri Borisov said that a high-speed helicopter should reach a speed of about 400 km / h

it will be a record!

[NEXUS]

Quote: vazxnumx

it will be a record!

No, not a record ...

In November last year, Russian Helicopters held tests of a demonstrator of high-speed helicopter technologies for maximum operational speed. The device flew at speed 405 kilometers per hour. This is an unofficial record among helicopter technology.

The speed that the helicopter was able to develop during the tests is operational, not maximum. That is, it is at this speed that the machine will be able to fly in normal mode for a long time. In this case, the maximum speed for this (uniaxial) scheme is 450 kilometers per hour.

Meanwhile, in May of this year, the Russian Ministry of Defense ordered the Russian Helicopters to develop a high-speed helicopter, which will be implemented according to the coaxial scheme. The new helicopter will be able to reach speeds more 500 kilometers per hour. The company “Kamov” took up the creation of a machine for the military

[Mimoprohodil]

Quote: NEXUS

the device flew at a speed of 405 kilometers per hour

This is the maximum speed. And the article says about the cruising speed of 400 km \ h

[NEXUS]

Quote: Mimoprohodil

This is the maximum speed. And the article says about the cruising speed of 400 km \ h

The speed that the helicopter was able to develop during the tests is operational, not maximum. That is, it is at this speed that the machine will be able to fly in normal mode for a long time. In this case, the maximum speed for this (uniaxial) scheme is 450 kilometers per hour.

Read it carefully.

[Tusv]

Quote: NEXUS

Read it thoughtfully

And why did they miss this quote? He is either a genius or a con.

He noted that “the engine will be able to be installed not only on a high-speed helicopter, but also on existing helicopter technology samples”

Therefore, I propose that they throw off on the ruble. 150 megablocks by the way, But he won’t create, then 150 million lawsuits with compensation for moral damage. Well, I’ll definitely cut down five thousand in court

[Tusv]

And I like the spinner that was shown in the movie with Schartz about the clone. I even have an extra ruble to finance this project

[sabakina]

I also wanted to write. The sixth day is called.

[irazum]

So create, otherwise chatter alone. Okay, "Trampoline Man," he’s supposed to ...

[HEATHER]

In a year? Do they have alien technologies there? A new engine! Remake the old one, believe it. But create from scratch ...

[sabakina]

di, what if? Mother Queen of heaven will throw off the crib ....

[RL]

And here is what they wrote in the Russian media (specifically FAN) in November 2016:
"Mi pilot helicopter overcomes the speed limit of 400 km / h
The flying demonstrator laboratory (LL-D) based on the Mi-24K helicopter is developing the technology of a promising high-speed helicopter for the Mi-KhZ project. The laboratory exceeded the speed limit of 400 kilometers per hour. The flying laboratory has a new generation rotor with experimental blades. "
Today:
"Borisov noted that the flying laboratory created by the holding" is already approaching these speeds "
And with an engine, I wonder if:
"A prototype engine for a high-speed helicopter, if ordered, can be created in a year"

[bulvas]

Quote: RL

But what they wrote in the Russian media

No one is in a hurry to spread the real picture in the media

When the time comes, they will show

[APASUS]

Everything is somehow simple and unambiguous, but the matter is not in the engine itself, the matter is in a number of systems that will have to be completed, but somewhere to be redesigned, and given that our Moscow Region cannot really give out TK, the question of one year is generally fantastic!

[rumpeljschtizhen]

generally give money and a lot ..... we are ready ..
I can’t believe that the problem is only in fiances

[Normal ok]

Key phrases: "Ready" AND "DESIGN". Those. now there is nothing.

[opus]

JDC is ready to create an engine for a high-speed helicopter in one year

they would have created for normal, and that would be high