How Mr. Chaly beat Comrade Shoigu

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How Mr. Chaly beat Comrade Shoigu


In fact, we are returning to a topic that has already been touched upon once, since it has received the continuation we expected. Recall in brief what was discussed.



In the winter of 2017, the Russian Ministry of Defense decided to invest a billion rubles in a place near Sevastopol 3. On the mountain of Gasfort, the Patriot Park was to spread, occupying 27 hectares of the former GOK.

But the Legislative Assembly of Sevastopol accepted the idea of ​​the Ministry of Defense with a great deal of skepticism. And so that ordinary citizens should participate in the discussion of the idea of ​​building a unique park for the Crimea, public hearings were initiated.

At the hearings, A. Chaly spoke and reminded everyone that the construction of the park would entail the destruction of the red-book juniper bushes and harm the artificial lake, the reserve reservoir of Sevastopol.

“And until the issue of the water supply of Sevastopol is resolved, it’s incorrect to speak about entertainment, construction objects,” the symbol of the “Russian spring” declared and persuaded the crowd. The result was a rejection by the public of the proposal to build a branch of the Patriot Park.

IN then released a number of articles and a video in which 11 of 10 surveyed from Sevastopol was completely unaware of the hype around Patriot Park, and the legitimacy of the so-called “public hearings” was questioned.

But the Ministry of Defense also listened to the "opinion of ordinary Crimeans," realizing that "everything is not so simple here." Then there was such a document:



Various media outlets wrote that Chaly fights the Patriot not for the sake of preserving rare plants, but for the sake of his project for a hotel complex on the Hasfort Mountain. A lot of emotion has been spilled on the screens of readers. But if you talk impartially, the picture is as follows: the fair symbol of the annexation of Sevastopol to Russia stood up for the unique local nature, and the military retreated.

But time is the best judge, putting everyone in their places. Half a year has passed, and the dumb question “Why did Chalomu Gasfort?” Received an unexpected (or logical) answer.

Oleg Nikolaev, head of the Sevastopol Development Corporation, a member of the ONF, said the following:

“The project of a sports park is being developed at the Ministry of Sports and will soon be presented to Sevastopol residents. Sevastopol Development Corporation is ready to lead this project as an agent of public-private partnership and to take on attracting investors for the development of Gasfort. Now, the area around the site where motorcyclists take part may have year-round sports and patriotic satiety. ”

To make it clear to all: Oleg Nikolaev - an ally of A. Chaly. Nikolaev stuck it out during the election race for the mandate of the State Duma deputy in 2016.



Oleg Nikolaev, answering his rhetorical question “What else can we do for Sevastopol?”, Says:

“As for the development of land at Mount Gasfort, I think that Minsport will help us to preserve this territory by creating a sports park without detriment to nature. There is no other alternative, they are considering this particular place, near Mount Gasfort.».

It turns out that the issue with the water supply of Sevastopol is resolved? But after all, almost no one has worked on them for the past six months. It was not before that - everyone was captured by the election of the governor and the reception of V. Putin in August. But what about the Red Juniper?

Nikolaev, in turn, seemed to confess, exhaling, that «Agency for strategic development of Sevastopol in 2014 year offered to place an amusement park near the Gasfort mountain. We even have a project on this topic. I.e it is not entirely new story. It's time to negotiate. We need to be able to talk with each other. If the project is done well, then it should be».

Here you have a grand piano in the juniper bushes - the project was already in 2014. And it becomes clear that at the public hearings Chaly and the team fought not for the preservation of fauna, but against the project of the Ministry of Defense.

The military then, proudly looking up, said that the Ministry of Defense would not allow "to drag itself into squabbles" around the construction of the Patriot park in Sevastopol. But these are military men whose honor is still not an empty sound.

What can I say about the team Chaly, who does not care about everything except their interests.

What to say about officials from the Ministry of Sports, because "There is no other alternative, they are considering this particular place, at Mount Gasfort," because, "if the project is done well, then it should be."

Nikolaev seems to be boasting: “It would be great if we discussed this project together, and the wishes of the people of Sevastopol were primarily taken into account. But, since such a grandiose story is planned, I think that all opinions will be taken into account. ”

Translated into Russian, this means that the project will pass any hearings, the team already has experience. People will be clarified the level of grandeur of the project and the desired solution will be achieved.

Crowns the story of the last person's quote: "There should not be any capital buildings there, we must preserve nature to the maximum."

We must pay tribute to the perseverance of national heroes - for the sake of saving the Red Book plants, they go to great lengths!

We look forward to building a sports park without capital buildings - hanging football fields and tennis courts, horses for horses on stilts, temporary jogging tracks and bicycle tracks ...

In general, all that was included in this object:



This, we recall, is the very project of an elite tourist complex at the Gasfort Mountain "Balaclava Green", which was developed by order of the main shareholder of the Balaklava Mine Administration of the Ukrainian oligarch Vadim Novinsky.

Novinsky, as you understand, seems to be on the horizon, but for some reason his work continues to live.

And the truth is, everything is not so clear in the Crimea ...
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  1. +27
    29 August 2017 08: 18
    Skomorokhov and Co. continues to run over Chaly, using the pre-election posters of Nikolaev. Rotten info. I remember, earlier the stuffing was about the fact that Chaly still pays taxes on Ukraine. What else to wait? It is strange that on the Sevastopol site sevastopol.su there is nothing of the kind. Political order?
    1. +20
      29 August 2017 08: 58
      maybe ... I don’t understand at all why, in the context of budget cuts, the Moscow Region needed this Patriot park for 3 billion dollars - is there anything now to invest more? we have all the military infrastructure facilities built and the military provided with housing, and the army with modern equipment ?!
      And in general, as far as I know, the well-known comrade "Surgeon" claims to this park, and the military is especially uninteresting
      The opinion of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on the construction of the Patriot park in Sevastopol is erroneous, said the leader of the Night Wolves bike club Alexander Zaldostanov, known as the Surgeon.
      Earlier, an official spokesman for the military department, Major General Igor Konashenkov, refused to participate in squabbles around the implementation of this project.
      “This is an erroneous position, because there is no squabble, there is a single position of people who support the Patriot Park,” said the Surgeon, noting that he would “bring this single position from people to Moscow.”
      According to the biker, the situation around the park’s project is similar to “some kind of nonsense, some big top”, the Moscow Says radio station reports.
      Recall, “Night Wolves” in 2015 received a ten-year lease for a plot near Mount Gasfort, where the park was supposed to be located, a year later a request was received from the Ministry of Defense for this land.
      1. +10
        29 August 2017 12: 23
        QUOTE: "Stirbjorn Today, 08: 58 ↑
        maybe ... I don’t understand at all why, in the context of budget cuts, the MO needed this Patriot park for 3 billion - is there nowhere to invest more money? we have all the military infrastructure facilities built and the military provided with housing, and the army with modern equipment ?! "

        3 billion rubles is good! - Exactly so much is the construction of the Akvanavt training center. And then the rescue submarine ship "I Belousov" with a deep-sea diving complex of saturated dives was built, and there are nowhere to prepare deep-sea divers for it. Then in a copper Vladimir Vladimirovich recommended Chersonese that in Sevastopol, to turn into a "hrestian Mecca." It seems to be a good thing, but with "costs." Therefore, the preparation of military divers generally tryndets creeps up. After all, the School of divers borders with Khersones! But it will not be possible to agree with priests and the "democratic public" - they are rowing for themselves.
        In general, Chaly is resting.
      2. +1
        29 August 2017 16: 15
        You can’t even imagine what the billions of the RF Defense Ministry are spent on))) 3 on the park is dust for the sailor)))
    2. +7
      29 August 2017 08: 59
      Quote: Aviator_
      Political order?

      And what, Skomorokhov doesn’t have “jeans”?
      1. +2
        29 August 2017 19: 07
        Quote: forty-eighth
        Quote: Aviator_
        Political order?

        And what, Skomorokhov doesn’t have “jeans”?

        Do you call a political order a “jeans”? And then I do not know this term.
    3. +14
      29 August 2017 09: 06
      Indeed, it would be better if they were engaged in the normal water supply of Sevastopol, and they would not have divided the land for each business. The country is really in crisis, and here cultural and entertainment centers are being built under the guise of patriotic names.
      1. 0
        29 August 2017 16: 40
        Quote: siberalt
        Indeed, it would be better to get involved in the normal water supply of Sevastopol


        By the way, about water supply.
        That man-made lake always looked like some kind of wild abandoned.
        And this year - some kind of base on the shore. All over the lake, there are all kinds of springboards for water sports.
        On the other side of the beach. What is it for?

        Mount Gasfort. Two weeks ago.
        1. 0
          29 August 2017 17: 35
          That on the shore is the fifth matter, the main thing is that the people have houses in the crane, and the military have the barracks. hi
    4. +4
      29 August 2017 11: 54
      Aviator!

      Why run into Chaly?

      He has long been for Sevastopol residents in a worldview cuvette. But in their lascivious plans in real life - makes every effort to reformatting the hero city of Sevastopol, as the Main Base of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation, in a kind of “Chalovsk-on-the-Sea” for the rest of the “chosen” public “according to the rich”: both ours, “homegrown”, and “foreign”.

      By the way and You know for suree, that Chaly is no longer the owner of Tavrida Electric, as he claims, and does not pay, in part, taxes “to Ukraine”?
      In Sevastopol about this - one question. A responsible and honest response from the public, in order to dispel her doubts, is not from Chaly. Maybe you have him take an interest yourselfand then with all of us share received answer?

      Incidentally, do you think Aviatorand WHY the “hero” of Russian Vienna ”- didn’t fall under any sanctions that fell on Russia, was Russian business exactly after the events of 2014 and the return of Crimea and Sevastopol to their native harbor?
      This is whose order?
      1. +10
        29 August 2017 12: 45
        Quote: Ostromir
        By the way, what do you think, the Aviator, and WHY the “hero” of Russian Vienna ”did not fall under any sanctions that fell on Russia, Russian business exactly after the events of 2014 and the return of Crimea and Sevastopol to their native harbor?

        how did it not hit? - hit right away, 17.03 EU, here a list of names http://www.rbc.ru/special/politics/31/07/2014/542
        42692cbb20fcc341db397
        Quote: Ostromir
        This is whose order?
        Well, right to your post wink
        1. 0
          29 August 2017 13: 10
          Stirbjorn!

          Lists are good. Tourist? True, it is read by your link - like 404...

          But what about the "production assets" around the world? Can you tell us in your own words: what was "arrested", what was "closed", what was "sanctioned", what was the "cursed" bourgeoisie the main enemy of the bourgeoisie following the results of the "Russian Spring" in 2014? Maybe tell me where and when Chaly complained difficulties, like revenge for the "Russian Spring", which shocked to the foundation of his "vacuum empire"?

          It’s advisable - with a calculator in hand ... They may make a mistake - and convince a wide audience about the issues, such as being built on a "hero" ...
          1. +5
            29 August 2017 16: 29
            the link is working, you need to copy it with the second line - here is https://ria.ru/politics/20140718/1016514535.html between Zherebtsov and Malyshev. Look for the assets yourself, since the Chaly prevents you from living, the audience is wide, unlike you, as Chalom has no doubt
            1. 0
              29 August 2017 20: 11
              Stirbjorn!

              Wide audience - ato you?

              You see, Stirbjörn, since you called into question the absence of sanctions against the assets of the Chalyan what does it have to do with about who prevents anyone from living?

              You can argue - argue. And by the links you can be "sent" - so what? But the fact that but blah blah blah sane - nothing ...

              It is the broad Sevastopol audience who asks Chalom questions about his business, the state of his business and the balance-bulldo in this business, and in response he hears “you yourself! .. ".
              Requests the Sevastopol public Chaly publicly and specifically on points account about: WHERE, HOW, HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH, WHO, etc., financial aid was distributed that went during the “Russian Spring” to the city from all over Russia and was taken “to balance” by its structures - and in response: “yes send you!.. ". And there were not only products and things, but also money.
              Hence the doubts. Can you dispel? Or will you continue to broadcast in poster propaganda mode?
    5. -1
      29 August 2017 18: 08
      Quote: Aviator_
      Earlier, stuffing was about the fact that Chaly still pays taxes to Ukraine.


      Chaly still pays taxes to Ukraine. This will be in the following materials.
      1. +2
        3 November 2017 01: 39
        You, Roman, would have rummaged better heroically at WHO who bought pieces of land on the coast from Muskva .. show a journalistic talent! But to bite a person who did not break through to power from the beginning, and if there is a dough, manages to remain a man — this is unworthy.
        By the way, someone, Dima Medvedev, drowns him, you know this? Chaly did not immediately fall to his courtyard, back in March 14th: it was painfully behaving independently, he didn’t break his hat, he didn’t bend his back .. hi
    6. +1
      1 September 2017 16: 59
      Perhaps it pays for enterprises located in 404, why not? It's just that this is another ordering and mocha looks like a mishandled Cossack, all the articles are in one way. Most likely I received education in textbooks 404. ORDER!
  2. +9
    29 August 2017 08: 23
    “Novinsky, as you know, seems to be on the horizon, but for some reason his business continues to live”
    August 27, 1760 - Empress Elizabeth issued a decree prohibiting bribery of government officials.
    Nobody knows when the law will come into force?
    1. +7
      29 August 2017 09: 41
      Quote: Hoc vince
      Nobody knows when the law will come into force?

      So I would like to know who Skomorokhov works for in order to apply this law!
      1. -1
        29 August 2017 18: 11
        On the "Military Review". Or is it so hard to understand?
        1. +5
          30 August 2017 06: 37
          Quote: Banshee
          On the "Military Review". Or is it so hard to understand?

          And you moderators, Mr. Banshee, are generally hard to understand! Either you defend trolls, you order provocative articles, and here I have (and not only me) the question arises about your undercover games !!!!
  3. +8
    29 August 2017 08: 42
    Nothing new, strictly classic:
    “As you order, sir?” Asked Fagot.
    “Well,” he answered thoughtfully, “they are people as people.” They love money, but it has always been ... Mankind loves money, no matter what it is made of, whether it is leather, paper, bronze or gold. Well, frivolous ... well.. . and mercy sometimes beats in their hearts ... ordinary people ... In general, remind the former ... the housing issue only ruined them ... "
  4. +9
    29 August 2017 09: 22
    It’s strange to read something like Chaly, who headed the Russian movement in Sevastopol, did this on purpose, for the sake of his own commercial gain. I wonder what they were doing and where the authors were at that moment. Were they at Perekop with machine guns? Or as part of the militia of Sevastopol prepared to meet Bandera in Sevastopol?
    1. +5
      29 August 2017 11: 38
      Rotmister!
      And who told you that Chaly led the “Russian Movement” in Sevastopol? Personally, he? So he deceived you ... And you know why?

      Because rally in February 2014, when the WHOLE Sevastopol rose, as one person, to DEFEND the city from the impending yellow-black plague due to Perekop - the figure of Chaly was thrown into the masses like a devil from a snuff-box.
      Like, he will "save" everyone.
      Saved by “polite people”, “green men”, support ALL RUSSIA and the determination of the inhabitants of Crimea and Sevastopol.
      To understand this, I had to feel it, being then in the Crimea and Sevastopol in the thick of things.

      Rotmister!
      So Chaly and with a gun was not just at Perekop, but even NEVER at the nearest checkpoint to the city: with food, water, cigarettes and basic necessities for those people, men and women who stood on them according to Conscience and Will, and had no idea about the existence of Chaly in principle on planet Earth.
      Have you tried to inflate an airship from a condom? With the "glory" of Chaly in the events of the "Russian Spring" - the same case. Advertising is not only an engine of progress, but also “ducks” about some “heroes.

      Chaly in the city How a fighter for the reunification of Sevastopol and Crimea with Russia ALL years of Sevastopol and Crimea being “under Ukraine” - IN GENERAL, NO ONE knew.
      For NEVER and ANYWHERE Chaly, for all these 23 years of ukro-occupation of the city, did not publicly declareyal that he would make every effort to return Sevastopol to "Native Harbor".

      Were there other people? Were. For example, the Kruglov brothers. From the very first days of the collapse of the Union and the fall of Crimea and Sevastopol “to Ukraine” they took a CLEAR position on this ugly situation for all Sevastopol residents “in Ukraine”.
      1. +4
        29 August 2017 15: 07
        Quote: Ostromir
        For example, the Kruglov brothers.

        Kruglov and 2014 year? The vanguard died in 10, and when I knew Genius in 85, he was already under 60!
        Quote: Ostromir
        Were there other people?

        And where were you ???
        1. +2
          29 August 2017 15: 37
          Serg65!

          And where is the 2014th year? The fact of the matter is that LATER, until 2014, there were people who were proud of in the city, knowing their position and attitude to the "Ukrainian" status of Sevastopol.

          And they expressed their attitude BOLD and OPEN.
          And where was ALL the rest of the Ukrainian occupation of the city “hero” Chaly? He made money, but not for the revolution for the return of Sevastopol to Russia, but exclusively for his own pocket.

          Who was where, Serg65 - tam no one alreadyand Crimea and Sevastopol are at home in Russia.
          But Chaly did not meet in those places where he had to be. Like NOBODY another of those guys who do not consider themselves heroes ...
          1. +4
            30 August 2017 06: 53
            Quote: Ostromir
            And where is the 2014 year?

            And here Kruglov and Chaly? You all mixed in one heap and are trying to create a negative background against Chaly!
            Quote: Ostromir
            And where was ALL the rest of the Ukrainian occupation of the city “hero” Chaly?

            Does Chaly consider himself a hero? Did he tell you that? He did his job and just walked away as a man, not having to play undercover games of “real heroes”
            1. +1
              30 August 2017 11: 41
              Serg65!

              And besides, Serg65, that there are people, but there are humanoid.

              You see, Serg65, Citizen Chaly publicly and with neglect stated that AT THE STATE he NEVER did not work.
              Now tell me how a person can openly spitting on state interestswa, be it the USSR or modern Russia-to be a patriot of this state?
              I will answer for you - NO. MEANS and affairs in the name of Russia for all the years of Ukrainian occupation of Crimea and Sevastopol, he did not.
              And he was not going to do it after people believed him, because he is interested in his pocket and his ambitions more than the interests of the state and its citizens. He left manly - he treacherously come offl from responsibility and from the need to live in the interests of MANY, and not exclusively their personal ...

              Because the oligarchs have no homeland, but there are places: comfortable living and convenient making money.

              From the material of the article - it is MORE than OBVIOUSLY.

              In the very name of the panegyric entitled “Che Guevara flies in the morning”, dedicated to the “hero” of Chalom in the events of the Russian spring, the author, wanting to bend down, however, revealed the essence - citizen Chaly flew in the morning “on the ball” to the events, and not worked for years revolutionary creating a revolutionary situation.

              He is up to Che Guevara, as to the North Pole in flippers ...
              1. +3
                30 August 2017 13: 05
                Quote: Ostromir
                He is up to Che Guevara, as to the North Pole in flippers ...

                Mdaaa, and you, Dear, did not try to live easier? Try it and people will reach for you! Honestly stretch!
                I have heard so many reports in my life that your report from the next Plenum did not inspire me at all. hi
                1. +1
                  30 August 2017 14: 16
                  Serg65!

                  Who lives how, including you, is your business. And people from the outside - know better ...
                  Moreover, listening to a report or reading an article is one thing. And to understand what has been heard and read is completely different.

                  Do you have WHAT object or clarify the two-faced position of Chaly and the “Chalovites” indicated in this article on the issue of land near Mount Gasfort and the project of the Patriot park in Sevastopol?
                  Without these, like, “thoughtful” arguments, like, “mdaaaa”, “gikhm”, “well-oo-oo-oo” and other sounds without meaning?
    2. +9
      29 August 2017 12: 11
      I completely agree with you, dear captain!
      Chaly led the Russian movement in Sevastopol at a time when it was extremely unsafe. By the way, he stopped the destruction of the 35 battery and restored this complex with his own money. He was the only one who refused official posts after the "revolution". You can continue about his affairs, but I am sure that the authors of the article are not interested.
      The legitimate question is: “And what did the citizens of Mokey Rusinov and Roman Skomorokhov do good in life? And how do they, for unknown reasons, consider themselves journalists, differ from their Ukrainian counterparts?”
      But these are military men whose honor is still not an empty phrase.

      But is it that half of the deputy defense ministers, all the commanders of the troops of the military districts and fleets, faithfully and truly implemented the plans of Serdyukov?
      1. +1
        29 August 2017 12: 46
        armeec2!

        On the issue of the 35th battery and its “recovery” with Chalov’s money exclusively personally - Are you sure? You saw the estimates, expenses, payments, receipts of money to the accounts of the “museum”. No, not seen. Their - NO ONE saw, but everyone continues to hear that Chaly paid and pays EVERYTHING from his personal pocket.
        However, words without facts are simply resonating air. And the trash of the listenerth.

        But what about, soldier2, the Ukrainian "Party of Regions", represented by its representative Vadim Kolesnichenko in the Rada "from Sevastopol", which took an active part in unwinding the brand of the 35th battery, as a personal matter of the mega “patriot” Chaly?
        What kind of insecurity are you talking about and what is it, this insecurity, for Chaly “on Ukarin” in 2010, 2011 or 2012?

        And is the "people's mayor" an official position? Chaly refused his post - he "threw people", from among those who believed him, they say, he will make every effort to revive Sevastopol ...
        Sevastopol, no doubt, will be reborn, but - contrary to without Chaly.
        1. +8
          29 August 2017 15: 09
          Quote: Ostromir
          Sevastopol, no doubt, will be reborn, but - contrary to without Chaly.

          But Chaly means the SBU agent is sleeping and sees how Sevastopol will explode ??? Drink valerian at least sometimes!
          1. 0
            29 August 2017 15: 25
            Serg65!

            SBU ???

            And where does the SBU, which itself is at a "dance" at the CIA with the State Department ?!

            And why blow up what is planned to lay golden eggs"!? Just not in the basket of Sevastopol and Russia ...
      2. -1
        29 August 2017 18: 16
        Quote: Army 2
        The legitimate question is: “And what did the citizens of Mokey Rusinov and Roman Skomorokhov do good in life? And how do they, for unknown reasons, consider themselves journalists, differ from their Ukrainian counterparts?”


        And you go to the "Peacemaker" if you do not want to search for the "Review". There, in general, all rightly painted.
        1. +1
          31 August 2017 10: 40
          Quote: Banshee
          And you go to the "Peacemaker" if you do not want to search for the "Review". There, in general, all rightly painted.

          Is it possible without links to the Internet resources of Ukrainian radicals?
  5. +13
    29 August 2017 09: 22
    Here you have the piano in juniper bushes - The Chalovites already had a project of their “own” park in 2014. And it becomes clear that at the public hearings Chaly and the team did not fight to save fauna, and against the project of the Ministry of Defense.

    Guys, when the juniper grows its paws, learns to meow or bark, and begins to hunt actively, running along Gasfort, then call it Fauna.
    And before that, he still is Flora. It’s a shame to allow such children's bloopers.
  6. +3
    29 August 2017 10: 08
    Rot. One rot. At least those, even these ...
    1. +2
      29 August 2017 10: 16
      Quote: unwillingly
      Rot. One rot. At least those, even these ...

      Both are worse ...
  7. 0
    29 August 2017 10: 39
    All the parks of the Patriot Morph for demonstrating the army, advertising of useless equipment that you believe in, you could not enter all of Ukraine with your scrap metal - this is all for you advertising. Your whole point is on the topic of space and on the topic of military equipment to steal resources and money finding idiots who believe you.
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        +4
        29 August 2017 13: 11
        Cho man wanted to say as many as three times? belay
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  10. +3
    29 August 2017 12: 30
    Chaly did not beat Shoigu.

    Small in hysteria about the Patriot Park in Sevastopol - outplayed himself.

    For if someone else doubted that neither the city, nor Sevastopol’s, nor Russia, from the point of development and strengthening as a whole, were interested in him, but only in making money: whether on vacuum switches, on patriotism, on earth, on historical speculation, both on the events of the Civil War and on the events of the Great Patriotic War - all their doubts were finally dispelled.

    The three presence of the “Chaly-s-team” in the city since 2014 is a time of intrigue, underhanded fuss, defamation of everyone who does not agree with the transformation of Sevastopol into “Chalovsk”, and attempts to jam the “crown of the emperor of all Sevastopol” on his head. As a result - there is a deep and systemic infrastructural crisis in the city, inspired by the Chalovsky Legislative Assembly in an effort to prove to everyone that they have “cooler Faberge” than, for example, the governor of the city or the Kremlin itself.

    Hero not the one who has jubilee medals from the neck to the navel and a “hero” tattoo on his forehead, and he who has palms in corns from labor for the benefit of the people whom you are in power.
    However, calluses can be grated and counting money from federal budget flows ...
    1. wax
      +1
      29 August 2017 13: 33
      Crimean spring, like any spring, brought to the surface a lot of weed, but not so much time will pass and the flood will sweep away the litter. There is no other way.
  11. 0
    29 August 2017 14: 06
    A rogue of those people who are always against .... no matter what, like Yavlinsky - only I can be right. The difference is that he is terribly active at the time of revolutions and coups. That was Nemtsov. But, when the situation calms down and you need to work, such people become Busoters, because they can’t do anything, only Busoter.
  12. +7
    29 August 2017 14: 08
    Article by Mokey Rusinov and Roman Skomorokhov is a complete lie. I live and work in Sevastopol, and so, according to almost all my friends and acquaintances, the transfer of the designated land and reservoir under the Patriot park and the interaction of the Moscow region with the N. Wolves of Zoldostanov, which are now, in agreement with the former mayor, destroying the reserve the zone is a crime. Our current Minister of Defense timely and wisely decided to create a park in another place and we agree with him!
    1. 0
      29 August 2017 15: 22
      masterovoy!

      And where do you “live” and who do you “work” in Sevastopol?

      And who told you that the planned reservoir, like a sludge reservoir, could be a reserve reservoir?

      And what is the lie - that the oligarchs Novinsky and Chaly planned where the "wolves" are now, to build a "mansion" village for, like, an "elite" with a "cable car" to Balaklava?
      Well, come on, “turn the helm” - have fun with the audience!
  13. +3
    29 August 2017 15: 25
    On his recent visit to our city, the GDP visited the 35th Coastal Battery, which A. Chaly was the one who restored and created the museum there. At your own expense. Not a single state spent a penny from its budget. A. Chaly did not deign to appear before dear guests - they were met by the director of the museum ... But the "Supreme" was embracing the "night rat" in full view of the people ... As they say - the priorities are set properly. Jackals on Gasfort for 8 years - and no one decree to them - with such a "roof" ...
    1. 0
      29 August 2017 16: 02
      vadhagh!

      The director of the "museum" of the President did not meet.
      I met just Zaldostanov. Really interesting?

      And this is not Chaly "did not deign", it is him in the Kremlin that is not perceived as a patriot and "a divide for Russia." But, as they say, every blacksmith of his own happiness ...

      Tell me, vadhagh, if the President is embracing a "jackal", then he himself, like, is a "jackal"? Well, then who are you? Apollo Belvedere or in a white tailcoat in the arena?

      And to restore the artillery battery, this means to bring it to the possibility of conducting artillery fire.

      Do you understand everything that you write on the “keyboard”?

      But what is happening in the former territory of the former coastal battery, now in the status of a private "museum" - question already for law enforcement in the aggregate of these...
      1. +4
        29 August 2017 16: 32
        Good afternoon! It was the director of the museum who accepted everyone just once (I forgot my last name - I apologize). You can watch this fact on video if you wish. I’m not Apollo ... Simple aphids, like you ... Like all the people for some powerful people ... But still, "hugs" with such an odious figure, like a zaldostanov, do not add piety to the Head of State ... And in the chapel at The 35th Battery, even candles are free - at the expense of A. Chaly ... And what is happening there - everyone can see on their own simply by coming there. Even the commission from the Accounts Chamber didn’t find anything — how did you get these stools from somewhere? !! Not a member of a well-known biker club on content? Good evening!
        1. 0
          29 August 2017 20: 23
          vadhagh!

          Yes, its director did not accept - for there was no reception. Or did you watch a Hollywood video story?

          The President arrived, talked with Zaldostanov - it was he who met the President at the entrance to the territory, bowed to the defenders, laid flowers and left ...
          А to see - come and see: both how portraits of fascists hang in the museum, and how the remains of soldiers and commanders of the Red Army are concreted into the foundation of the chapel; listen to what the guides broadcast during the excursions, jump to a rock concert near the graves, and so on and so forth - you will see and hear a lot of things. To say more aboutand. Personally. And not from someone ... Have you tried to live with your own mind?

          If even where feces are whipping, it’s from, like, a “museum” on the 35th battery in our history ...
          1. +1
            15 September 2017 10: 29
            And what is your story? Hollywood To the right of D. Medvedev WHO?
      2. +1
        30 August 2017 01: 23
        Mr. Ostromirov !! Have you been to this museum? And call me another such museum in Russia. But it wasn’t the artillery battery that was restored - this is a question of the Moscow Region;
        1. 0
          30 August 2017 12: 05
          Abel!

          You with deal with termsb, namely: places of exploits - DO NOT RESTORE.
          In this case, it would be necessary to restore the gallows on which the Nazis hung Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya?

          Remember and honor memory PERFORMING A DEATH in certain places and in certain circumstances. And mark these places - if possible - with monuments and commemorative signs.

          I’ve been on the territory of the former 35th battery more than once ... I have repeatedly been in the so-called “museum”, which is now privately hiding in the battery. Being a Sevastopol from the day of birth and "living" in the city all his life - it's not that hard. It’s hard to understand why there "arranged" is called a museum.


          There is no museum there: neither from the point of view of the presence of expositions with artifacts related to the battery itself, nor from the point of view of the historical and scientific component of the activity of this “office” in the question of studying the TOTAL defense period of the city ..

          From the point of view of the Feat - it totally whiffs around, with the term “traitors who abandoned people, the command of the Sevastopol defensive area ... There, the entire 250-day defense is considered an appendix to the 10 last days and events from the Karan plateau to Cape Khersones these days ... There, the center of ALL defense ALL 250 days is considered the 35th battery, which is ABSOLUTELY untrue ...
          There, the commander of the defense of the city, Admiral Oktyabrsky, is called a “bastard,” but in reality he is a Hero of the Soviet Union, an honorary resident of the city and a street in Sevastopol is named after him ....
          There they hold rock concerts 15 meters from the graves of the defenders of the city, having previously buried them illegally ... And so on and so forth ...

          You then yourself Abel whether in this “museum”: they listened, looked, reflectedand over what he saw and heard?
  14. +3
    29 August 2017 16: 19
    It would be better for the Ministry of Defense to bring to mind the Patriot Park in the Moscow Region. So that he was exemplary indicative. First of all, attractive and convenient for visitors, so that he really develops patriotic feelings, and not be a demonstration platform for meaningless instillation of budget funds.
    If you need to organize the processing of potential buyers of equipment, then this can be done at their factory base and their training grounds, and their banquet halls. And if you need to interest the population, that is, enough sites within walking distance - Poklonnaya Gora, Museum of the Armed Forces ...
    1. 0
      30 August 2017 01: 15
      Quote: BOS Constantin
      so that he really develops patriotic feelings, and not be a demonstration platform for meaningless instillation of budget funds.
  15. +4
    29 August 2017 17: 04
    Chaly already entered Russian History (and a sweater against the background of strict jackets, in which we, the townspeople, saw him in Sevastopol in those awesome days). Fussing around the mayor, elected by the rally of thousands at Nakhimov Square, does not honor the respected VO.
    1. 0
      29 August 2017 18: 57
      Yuri Guliy!

      They do not enter the history with a sweater, but with deeds. Sweaters - In History get involved.

      Tell me, Yuri Guliy, that EXCEPT “sweaters” Can you talk about what MADE in Sevastopol for 3 years, the former mayor, the former chairmen of the Legislative Assembly and the current ordinary deputy?

      Only without any yes at the rally, and specifically according to the results for Sevastopol and Russia?
      By the way, Herostratus and Judah went down in history - so what?
      1. +2
        30 August 2017 01: 14
        Do you even know the public administration system? If TARGET budget money comes in, can you spend it on something else? If for every wish (sentence) an executive roar is heard. You want to say that the protege of United Russia, Mr. Menyailo, now the president’s representative, has done something for Sevastopol? That’s what was written on each fence: Change me, get out. And United Russia is now such a curse
        1. 0
          30 August 2017 14: 35
          Abel!

          On the fences can writeb and Abel and the three letters after ...

          About get out "get me out" on all the fences of Sevastopol - are you lying: either knowingly or unknowingly. And do it - for the whole country. What for?

          Here you tell us what CHaly did for 3 years for the city - laugh together. Having the power and authority.
          Start right away with the high-rise building EXPLODED at the initiative of EXACTLY Chaly - which he does not deny - on Cape Khrustalny. For what? To clear a place for the construction of his planned park, such as "Exodus" ...
          Think of his proposal to LEAD the Black Sea Fleet from Sevastopol, freeing the berths occupied by him for the esplanades with walks in them in the company of pet dogs, and his fleet, the rest, to drive into Inkerman ....
          Analyze his remarks about the unnecessary construction of a thermal power station near Sevastopol and little effectiveness for the development of the infrastructure of the Crimea and Sevastopol bridge across the Kerch Strait ...
          Remember the flight of Chaly from Sevastopol during the electric blockade of Crimea and Sevastopol from Ukraine, when people had to live with light for 6-8 hours a day. AND how they functioned under such conditions hospitals, kindergartens or schools ... And as in the same conditions acted Namely, and not the “hero” of the Russian spring and the “people's mayor” Chaly, who “screwed” from the city with the speed of sound ...

          Or weak?
  16. 0
    29 August 2017 20: 18
    and again Sevastopol ....
  17. +1
    29 August 2017 23: 29
    in the struggle of the Muscovites with everyone else, the winner is predetermined by the degree of closeness to power. the rebellion will be suppressed, the perpetrators will be scolded and allowed to work for the winners ... oh, the motherland is everything as always ... pichalka ...
    1. +1
      31 August 2017 00: 49
      thermometer to buy? measure temperature? otherwise I’m watching the heat. glitches on its background ...
  18. +1
    30 August 2017 01: 05
    Chaly, for his money, created the “35 Battery” memorial: it is impossible to watch without tears. This is a real upbringing of patriotism. Motorcycle shows - a show and nothing more, albeit for state money. And to destroy reserve sources of water supply - this is our national sport. Breaking - not building
    1. 0
      30 August 2017 15: 01
      Abel!

      About "your money" is even curious!
      Can you confirm this with documents, not words? If so, then the Sevastopol public will be more than grateful to you ...
      For example, a construction company invoices for concrete work, and pays for it PERSONALLY Chaly? Signature, seal and all things?

      Tell me, Abel !, is it possible consider the upbringing of patriotism to hold a rock concert at the cemetery near the graves with the remains of the city’s defenders and perform songs in a foreign (!) language with more than ambiguous content, for example, in a translation that sounds like: “We will shake you!” - regarding the date of July 3, when on this day in 1942 the city was officially declared abandoned by our troops?

      This is not even a show. This is a natural SENTENCE.
      There is no need to cry - and beat the physiognomy ...
  19. +2
    31 August 2017 00: 47
    Yes, how did you get it already? well, even if Chaly is fighting for the land, and what's wrong? it is a business. he has his own reasons. Why is this garbage appear I can not understand?
  20. +1
    1 September 2017 00: 26
    So what's the problem? I personally also think that doing patriot in Crimea is not a place to rest, and Patriot to put it mildly, a thing in itself, let the Moscow park begin to pay off first
  21. 0
    1 September 2017 19: 59
    I may not understand something ... or I’m not catching up, but I don’t want to (say) benefit in a fight between two crowds and timely fit a barrel of kvass there ... and that's how living in the Urals and having everything in blood !!! except Jewish and Kholatsk blood ... (please understand) in the sense that I .. I !! I do not understand!!!! as possible or ... or rather immediately to choke ABOUT BENEFIT !! no matter what and how ... or I'm from some USSR, star ... well, super old .... something somehow turned in our minds .... well, in the wrong direction .. .or really ... old ... thinking ... where are we going ... pi..ts. You cannot express it differently .... IMHO. Do not judge me ..
    1. 0
      1 September 2017 21: 50
      in the 14th year, a strategic mistake was made. It was necessary to dismiss all ukrochinush in the Crimea and then appoint new people
  22. +1
    4 September 2017 15: 56
    Yesterday there was a battery with my family in the memorial complex 35, which restored and contains Chaly. Silly comments are not clear - and let estimates show that he restored it. What estimates are needed - you can touch the museum with your hands, go on a live tour.
    1. 0
      17 September 2017 07: 48
      Estimates that are not clear - let their feces show, they should already be diagnosed with depleted microflora, which patients with dementia and combined genetic breakdowns have what
  23. +1
    9 September 2017 21: 51
    cheap skorochki
  24. 0
    9 September 2017 21: 54
    what the hell!
    when will there be Russian traffic in Crimea ?!
  25. 0
    17 September 2017 07: 43
    No Chaly did not beat Shoigu and MinOobr
    Since the presence of the Mountain with a historical name is a powerful marketing tool, it is clear that People from Abroad will come to the Park
    The park is designed according to the layout for Europeans and those who agree to have inside Europeans
    That is, the wife of someone, the daughter of someone. This layout is sharpened and can be protested through the concepts of Human Trafficking - and has nothing to do with the amusement park. Moreover, an escort will never go into such a place, which in world language means that there are many European diseases in the territory - dementia, genetic breakdowns transmitted through saliva and blood. That is corny it is another place for infection of the population with European specific diseases. Who especially like Sea Sands and Places near the Sea coast.
    Here, in order to understand how to build entertainment, you need to have close practical contact with Iranian friends who work in the field of veterinary medicine and border control of the spread of infections, there are cool specialists on the border with Afghanistan and other borders, as in Iran there are cool specialists in childbirth at home. The same experts are in Turkey. These are not just infectious disease specialists. These are people who are genetic infectious disease specialists who are able to prepare primary education men to recognize risks not only in the patient, but in general among the clientele. Naturally, there are concepts for the construction of facilities, as in Saudi Arabia.
    Only the Ministry of Defense can at the moment state of affairs on the Planet to Permit Developments with an entertainment element. These are not girls, I repeat again. And not Putin's Intourist-this is my limit of concepts in the Kremlin. The project idea of ​​entertainment is a good idea of ​​patriotism is also a good one, but blueprint is dumb and generally can be condemned for conspiracy and deliberate set to spread the epidemic. Both among the common population, and among the semi-literate nouveau riche. Therefore, no one loves nouveau riche anywhere. Look for descendants of truly historically rich people and return their capital. Otherwise, there will again be a Madeleine Albright who will say that Russia has too much territory, meaning that the nouveau riche does not roll the world competition and the situation and securities they have a problem.
  26. +1
    25 October 2017 14: 38
    Last year, in the first of his life, he visited the Crimea. I really fell in love with this beautiful and sacred land for many peoples. This year I went to the Crimea again. During these two years traveled almost the entire peninsula. In many places, they talked with locals of different nationalities - so that they themselves and not through the media receive information about the Truth of Crimea. I will not describe everything and everything, the only thing I can say is that Chaly is known in Crimea and Chaly is respected in Crimea.
  27. 0
    21 November 2017 20: 59
    A. Chaly has non-standard thinking, good memory, a will to achieve a goal, and organizational skills. Only here is the problem - the predominance of personal interests, which prevents him from defining the state strategic objectives of Russia's development. If not for this flaw, he would be a successful, if extraordinary, politician in Russia. As for the Patriot Park, this is a dual, if not triple, destination. He could serve the social problems of the city (reserves of water supply, sanitation, electricity, moral education, scientific research for talented youth in the military-industrial complex, etc.) It can be seen that A. Chaly understands this very well (with his analytical skills), therefore he against the park. Sorry for this man. How much he spends his talents on the confrontation. And for what? His - me?
  28. 0
    24 November 2017 16: 00
    So that's where the Night Wolf is buried))
    M.O. there’s nothing more to do, except budget litter in the parks.
    A Chaly do not touch .... better look in the mirror.
    A project of sports and entertainment. the complex is quite good, based on the fact that Sevastopol and the South Coast tourist zone. very much by the way.
  29. +1
    26 November 2017 13: 09
    Sevastopoltsev, (ceteris paribus) is much more likely to arrange a bike show regularly held at Gasforta.
    There (from the point of view of the average person) there is at least something to see, and children to bring. Of course, in the context of "protecting nature", Night Wolves are not the ultimate dream. It’s a sin to hide: far from all bikers and guests of a bike show are also well-educated and clean, such as Mr. Zaldostanov. But, this is a technical problem and is being solved.
    The problem of the need to strengthen the patriotic education of young people is completely sucked from the finger. In Sevastopol (and in Crimea as a whole) there are just no problems with this! Competition in Sevastopol Nakhimovsk - MSU smokes on the sidelines. Parents invent extremely sophisticated schemes in order to arrange their child in this university.
    So, comrades, be careful in the comments, there was nothing and nothing in the history around the Patriotic Park, except for the next dividing of the dough and power!
    Chaly - an odious and extremely ambiguous figure!
    So share everything you hear about it on 10!