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Did Israeli specialists help Azerbaijan strike a UAV on Nagorno-Karabakh?

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A commission has been formed in the Israeli main military department, which deals with the verification of the activities of the ADS (Aeronautics Defense Systems) company drones. Israeli edition "Maariv" reports that the Israeli Defense Ministry has received information that the Azerbaijani military representatives could ask the company to assist in striking the positions of the army of Nagorno-Karabakh.

ADS has been cooperating with Azerbaijan for a long time and firmly, but its representatives say that no assistance was given to Baku in attacking Armenian positions with drones.

Did Israeli specialists help Azerbaijan strike a UAV on Nagorno-Karabakh?


After that, there were reports that the Israeli commission allegedly established the fact that ADS was not involved in the bombardment of positions in Nagorno-Karabakh by Azerbaijani troops, but these reports are refuted in a number of media outlets. It is known that the verification has just begun, and is not officially reported on its progress at the moment.

Earlier, the press service of the Defense Ministry of the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic reported that as a result of an air strike produced using an unmanned aerial vehicle, two servicemen were injured.

Against the background of these messages in the media in Israel, a number of politicians called for an assessment of military-technical cooperation with Azerbaijan. Politicians doubt the fact of active cooperation between Azerbaijan and Iran. It is noted that the Israeli technology of drone drone can be in the hands of the Iranian military.
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  1. Bath
    Bath 24 August 2017 09: 05
    +5
    Well, what of this? Not only Russia, both sides need to sell weapons to share the market
    1. Thrall
      Thrall 24 August 2017 09: 08
      +5
      Quote: Bath
      Well, what of this?

      For less misconduct, countries are now becoming Goyim.
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      2. xetai9977
        xetai9977 24 August 2017 09: 27
        +12
        "The fact of active cooperation between Azerbaijan and Iran." - The delusionality of this fact is visible not only in spelling. There is no and there cannot be any cooperation between Azerbaijan and Iran for the simple reason that it is precisely thanks to Iran’s support that the aggressor Armenia has not yet bent economically. Politicians make tortured smiles, shake hands, but everyone knows that the sympathy of the Persians is on the side of our enemies. As for the alleged "fact", the Israeli company and senior military officials from the Ministry of Defense are quite serious people and no one will offer, let alone act on the principle of "come on, bro. Do me a favor" - "what kind of conversation, bro, we’ll do in the best possible way " A storm in a glass of water is not ruled out that it could not have happened without those who are not benefiting from mutually beneficial cooperation between Azerbaijan and Israel, with whose friendly people we have a wonderful relationship! Jews have been living with us for many, many centuries and have always treated them extremely kindly and even brotherly. If there are Jews among the users, immigrants from Azerbaijan, then I hope they will confirm
        1. Professor
          Professor 24 August 2017 15: 31
          +5
          Quote: xetai9977
          If there are Jews among the users, immigrants from Azerbaijan, then I hope they will confirm

          I confirm.hi

          The topic discussed in the article has already been sucked a hundred times ...
        2. mgero
          mgero 24 August 2017 23: 38
          0
          But in 1993-94, Iran (with the help of Iran) sent Mujahideen to Azerbaijan from 2000-3000 (according to various estimates) and this fact really helped restore the situation. It was a real collaboration, and now Azeri forgot this.
    2. Finches
      Finches 24 August 2017 09: 13
      +10
      Jews are Jews! If this makes a profit, then the Savior can be nailed, and then make it a global brand and make a profit again ... The commission was created by Jews alone, solely to squeeze the profit from other Jews ... laughing
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 24 August 2017 09: 19
        +11
        It seems to me that only an extraordinary (Jewish) brain could be so brief and brilliant
        analyze the situation from the Savior to our days! wink
        1. Finches
          Finches 24 August 2017 09: 27
          +1
          There is a Jewish krovinochka in me, what a sin to conceal, but there is no such grip! laughing
          1. japs
            japs 24 August 2017 09: 51
            +5
            "No one is perfect ..." (c)
    3. siberalt
      siberalt 24 August 2017 09: 24
      0
      Iran has quite normal relations with Armenia and Karabakh. From Iran, on the border along the Araks, they did not even have border guards even during the Soviet Union.
    4. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 24 August 2017 11: 02
      0
      Quote: Bath
      Well, what of this? Not only Russia, both sides need to sell weapons to share the market

      There is a slightly different responsibility. sell weapons are one thing, but use weapons being sold against one of the conflicting parties in practice, the seller’s representatives cannot this automatically and unequivocally transfers them to the status of a military ally of one of the parties to the conflict and to the status of aggressor for the other side. If Russia sells systems to Syria and trains Syrians in their use, then the status of the Russian Federation is official, at the invitation of Damascus, and the stated task is to fight ISIS. I do not think that the Israelis can be so stupid to substitute.
  2. Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 24 August 2017 09: 07
    +3
    Again? It seems that last week they discussed it.
    1. Thrall
      Thrall 24 August 2017 09: 12
      +3
      Quote: Aaron Zawi
      Again? It seems that last week they discussed it.

      And when, due to this incident, sanctions will be imposed on Israel, we will discuss it again smile
      1. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 24 August 2017 09: 55
        +7
        Quote: Thrall
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        Again? It seems that last week they discussed it.

        And when, due to this incident, sanctions will be imposed on Israel, we will discuss it again smile

        Was there a boy? wink
      2. And Us Rat
        And Us Rat 24 August 2017 19: 48
        +2
        Quote: Thrall
        And when, because of this incident, they will put on Israel ...

        To "put" on Israel, you need to work hard. yes
    2. Che burashka
      Che burashka 24 August 2017 09: 19
      0
      Quote: Aaron Zawi
      Again? It seems that last week they discussed it.

      And what is there to discuss - profit is profit! And it’s nothing that modern technologies through Iran will get to Hamas and others like them. When it will be .... and denyuzhka is now dripping. Everything is simple - “This is only business and nothing personal” (c). good
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 24 August 2017 09: 31
        +1
        Quote: Che Burashka
        modern technology through Iran

        Iran?
        N-yes ... 8)))
        1. garnik
          garnik 24 August 2017 10: 53
          +1
          All the same, they use their shock drones, unlike us. Well, if the drone is not "modern technology," then. ..
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 24 August 2017 11: 01
            +5
            Iran has an excellent source of this kind of technology - China. Protecting your investments in energy production.
            Therefore, attempts to fasten this to Azerbaijan seem to be a complete disrespect for the mental abilities of the target audience. However, the Armenian propaganda is constantly suffering from this disrespect.
            1. garnik
              garnik 24 August 2017 11: 28
              +1
              Just you belittle the mental abilities of our engineers and scientists, who create some of the best aircraft, but stall in the development of shock drones. I think there are those interested in this sabotage.

              T.N. Azerbaijan has nothing to do with it, they buy what states with the highest degree of "democracy" sell. Remember among the neighboring countries, the true allies of Russia, this is Belarus and Armenia, and inside Russia from among the people you can rely on, Ossetians who are not interested in the collapse of Russia.
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 24 August 2017 11: 39
                +6
                Quote: garnik
                I think there are those interested in this sabotage.

                The army is interested in this “sabotage”. Realizing that she needs shock drones, like a dog’s fifth leg.
                Quote: garnik
                true allies of Russia, this is Belarus and Armenia

                With an ally like Armenia, you don’t need enemies ... It’s enough to type “Armenia NATO” in any search engine or news aggregator to understand this
                1. garnik
                  garnik 24 August 2017 13: 27
                  +1
                  With an ally like Armenia, you don’t need enemies ... It’s enough to type “Armenia NATO” in any search engine or news aggregator to understand this
                  =========
                  The same Russia and NATO, only recently the roads have diverged. Then Turkey appeared.
                2. armenk
                  armenk 24 August 2017 14: 35
                  +3
                  With an ally like Armenia, you don’t need enemies ... It’s enough to type “Armenia NATO” in any search engine or news aggregator to understand this

                  Lopatov, it’s also written on the fence .. I’m sure that when the Russian Federation agreed with Armenia, nobody asked you.
                  your destiny is to leave your ugly and unreasonable scribbles here. by analogy with the fence - he wrote and is not responsible for anything.

                  Garnik, Lopatov is the one who answers only convenient questions. And the fact that he
                  1. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 24 August 2017 15: 33
                    +4
                    Quote: armenk
                    Lopatov, it’s also written on the fence .. I’m sure that when the Russian Federation agreed with Armenia, nobody asked you.

                    It’s a pity they didn’t ask ... When Yeltsin was always drunk, many decisions catastrophic for Russia were made. Including a very strange "alliance" with Armenia.

                    Quote: armenk
                    your destiny is to leave your ugly and unreasonable scribbles here. by analogy with the fence

                    How can there be a proposal to deal with the situation most "ugly and unfounded"? Do you think that a person is obliged to believe exclusively in propaganda?
                    Is a person obliged to close his eyes to the recent participation of Armenia in the NATO exercises? Is a person obligated to turn a blind eye to NATO’s assistance in the occupation of Afghanistan and Kosovo? Is a person obligated to turn a blind eye to the regular visits of NATO functionaries to Yerevan?
                    1. armenk
                      armenk 24 August 2017 19: 18
                      +5
                      Sorry, they didn’t ask ...

                      I think you have megalomania
                      When Yeltsin was always drunk, many decisions catastrophic for Russia were made.

                      are the Armenians to blame for this too? or maybe the Jews? a log in an eye does not press?
                      How can there be a proposal to deal with the situation most "ugly and unfounded"? Do you think that a person is obliged to believe exclusively in propaganda?

                      What did you propose to sort it out? you unreasonably accuses of betrayal - referring to "you type on the Internet." where are the facts? evidence?
                      Is a person obliged to close his eyes to the recent participation of Armenia in the NATO exercises?
                      So what? what is betrayal? why does Russia conduct exercises together with Turkey, a member of NATO? how does it fit into your logic? and the fact that Russia has forgotten about the downed plane, a country a member of NATO-is what you call?
                      Is a person obligated to turn a blind eye to NATO’s assistance in the occupation of Afghanistan and Kosovo?
                      people should close their eyes to the fact that a huge part of the cargo in Afghanistan was delivered by Russian transport aircraft, and even in transit through Russia? Armenia, like Russia, carried out peacekeeping missions in Serbia, and nothing more .. I just wanted to remind you who surrendered Yugoslavia - also liar Armenians, according to your logic. and didn’t the Armenians present Crimea to Ukraine? and the Russians in the Baltic states, as in all the republics of the former USSR, were the Armenians also abandoned?
                      Is a person obligated to turn a blind eye to the regular visits of NATO functionaries to Yerevan?
                      so goes to Russia no less.

                      I look forward to the facts of violation by Armenia of its obligations as a member of the CSTO or by joint agreement between Russia and Armenia.
                      1. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 24 August 2017 19: 35
                        0
                        Quote: armenk
                        are the Armenians to blame for this too? or maybe the Jews? a log in an eye does not press?

                        And where are you trying to screw from an uncomfortable question?
                        Armenia became our "ally" under Yeltsin. Fact? Fact. Azerbaijan was turned into an ally of Turkey under Yeltsin. Fact? Fact. This is not the only clearly erroneous decision of the Yeltsin regime. Fact? Fact.

                        Quote: armenk
                        people should close their eyes to the fact that a huge part of the cargo was delivered to Afghanistan

                        Again a purely agitprop move. "Confused" time? For Russia, cooperation with NATO is a thing of the past. Why did our supposedly “ally” Armenia not clearly stand on our side, but, on the contrary, decide to deepen cooperation with the aggressive North Atlantic bloc? Previously, Armenia did not participate in joint exercises.

                        Quote: armenk
                        so goes to Russia no less.

                        Lies.

                        Quote: armenk
                        I look forward to the facts of violation by Armenia of its obligations as a member of the CSTO or by joint agreement between Russia and Armenia.

                        Arms deliveries to Azerbaijan violate any obligations of Russia? Not. So why are you hysterical?
                        Why do your politicians call the CSTO "a straitjacket for Armenia"? Why do your politicians declare the "capture" of Armenia by Russian companies? Why, in order to prevent the signing of an association agreement between Armenia and the EU, did we have to sell weapons to Azerbaijan?
                    2. armenk
                      armenk 24 August 2017 20: 15
                      +3
                      Armenia became our "ally" under Yeltsin. Fact? Fact. Azerbaijan was turned into an ally of Turkey under Yeltsin. Fact? Fact. This is not the only clearly erroneous decision of the Yeltsin regime. Fact? Fact.
                      what an interesting association you have. they didn’t ask you, and right after mistake after mistake .. Shovels, return to the earth, stop thinking that the world is spinning around you, but rather, contact a doctor.
                      For Russia, cooperation with NATO is a thing of the past.

                      joint exercises with Turkey were in April ..
                      Why did our supposedly “ally” Armenia not clearly stand on our side, but, on the contrary, decide to deepen cooperation with the aggressive North Atlantic bloc?
                      Sorry, but I did not see Russia "clearly sided with us." But seriously, I think such things are coordinated by the parties (probably they didn’t consult with you again), especially since the exercises were regional.
                      Lies.

                      I’ll probably tell you a secret - but Russia even has a NATO mission.
                      Arms deliveries to Azerbaijan violate any obligations of Russia? Not. So why are you hysterical?

                      I didn’t even talk about it
                      Why do your politicians call the CSTO "a straitjacket for Armenia"? Why do your politicians declare the "capture" of Armenia by Russian companies?

                      I do not see the facts of violation of agreements by Armenia
                      Why, in order to prevent the signing of an association agreement between Armenia and the EU, did we have to sell weapons to Azerbaijan?
                      these are your personal sick fantasies
                      1. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 25 August 2017 07: 59
                        0
                        Quote: armenk
                        what an interesting association you have. they didn’t ask you, and right after mistake after mistake .. Shovels, return to the earth, stop thinking that the world is spinning around you, but rather, contact a doctor.

                        Transition to personalities is a classic bot technique. When on the topic there is nothing to say.
                        Quote: armenk
                        joint exercises with Turkey were in April ..

                        With Turkey, not with NATO. Moreover, they participated in ours, and not vice versa.

                        Quote: armenk
                        Sorry, but I did not see Russia "clearly sided with us"

                        You don’t see that you are still occupying Karabakh?

                        Quote: armenk
                        I’ll probably tell you a secret - but Russia even has a NATO mission.

                        Not the "representative office", but the "Information Bureau" and it also exists in Armenia. And not two people, like ours. But I’m not talking about him, and you yourself understood this, but chose not to understand.
                        Quote: armenk
                        I didn’t even talk about it

                        You do not say, you hysteria.
                        Quote: armenk
                        I do not see the facts of violation of agreements by Armenia

                        If Azerbaijan enters troops in Karabakh and returns it, and Russia does not intervene, this will not be a violation of obligations. If Armenia breaks into this war and rakes, Russia also has every right not to intervene, because it is not an agrkssia against an ally, and the ally himself has committed an act of aggression.
                        Therefore, personally, I would not think in the place of the Armenians that they famously deceived Russia, because we, too, can not give a damn about the spirit of the treaty, fulfilling only its letter

                        Quote: armenk
                        these are your personal sick fantasies

                        Rather, a reinforced concrete fact. Direct causal, which is very difficult not to notice.
                    3. armenk
                      armenk 25 August 2017 10: 51
                      +1
                      Transition to personalities is a classic bot technique. When on the topic there is nothing to say.

                      so you went over to the person remembering EBN and blaming him for all sins. I assure you that neither then nor now does anyone need your advice. and if you think differently, then you have a direct path to the doctor.

                      from the latest statements by V. Putin:
                      Thus, receiving President Sargsyan in Sochi, the head of Russia recalled that “in a few days, August 29, there will be 20 years from the date of signing our key agreement on friendship and strategic cooperation.” He emphasized that “during this time, relations between Armenia and Russia have strengthened most seriously as between sovereign states” and that “we have an intensive political dialogue, we are cooperating on a bilateral basis in the field of economy, security, and military affairs”, “active interaction within the framework of international organizations and integration associations” is carried out.



                      With Turkey, not with NATO. Moreover, they participated in ours, and not vice versa.

                      Turkey is a NATO member and, by compatibility, the enemy of Armenia. The Russian leadership believes this is right and possible and no one argues here - Russia is an independent state and apparently it fits into the agreements concluded between Armenia and Russia. This applies equally to Armenia.

                      You don’t see that you are still occupying Karabakh?

                      I do not think so. Azerbaijan, with the support of the union authorities, did not give a damn about the observance of all formalities and the officially held referendum of the residents, tried to crush the Armenian population and expel them from their homeland. as a result, he was defeated and lost part of the lands that in Soviet times were subordinate to the Azerbaijan SSR. with the same success, Russia can be called an acupant of Crimea. you do not agree with this, really.

                      Not the "representative office", but the "Information Bureau" and it also exists in Armenia. And not two people, like ours. But I’m not talking about him, and you yourself understood this, but chose not to understand.

                      I don’t understand where you got information about the number of employees. and there and there is an "information center" what are the claims?

                      You do not say, you hysteria.

                      I’m not that I’m not hysteria, I didn’t even raise this topic. no need to pass the expected as valid.

                      If Azerbaijan enters troops in Karabakh and returns it, and Russia does not intervene, this will not be a violation of obligations. If Armenia breaks into this war and rakes, Russia also has every right not to intervene, because it is not an agrkssia against an ally, and the ally himself has committed an act of aggression.
                      Therefore, personally, I would not think in the place of the Armenians that they famously deceived Russia, because we, too, can not give a damn about the spirit of the treaty, fulfilling only its letter

                      do not take the topic aside - I have not heard more than one fact of Armenia’s violation of any agreements

                      Rather, a reinforced concrete fact. Direct causal, which is very difficult not to notice.

                      I'm more and more convinced that you need to see a doctor.
                      1. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 25 August 2017 11: 23
                        0
                        Quote: armenk
                        I'm more and more convinced that you need to see a doctor.

                        Do you understand that you are becoming simply ridiculous by issuing such "arguments"?
                        Quote: armenk
                        so you went over to the personality remembering EBN

                        So who are you, the ghost of Yeltsin?
                        Quote: armenk
                        I don’t understand where you got information about the number of employees.

                        Everything is extremely simple - Russia sent them. In full force, all two 8)))
                        Quote: armenk
                        I’m not that I’m not hysteria, I didn’t even raise this topic.

                        Did I write about you personally? I am about the Armenians. And about their hysteria, including on this site.
                        Quote: armenk
                        I do not think so. Azerbaijan with the support of the union authorities

                        What do you want? Azerbaijanis in a referendum voted to preserve the USSR. Armenians are against. Why should the Allied authorities support those who wanted to destroy this Union?
                        Quote: armenk
                        with the same success Russia can be called an acupant of Crimea

                        So they call it. Moreover, the sanctions imposed. Do Americans and Europeans impose sanctions on Armenia for the occupation of Karabakh? No, because despite the alleged "alliance" with Russia, are Armenians acting in the interests of NATO? By their troops supporting the regime of segregation of Serbs in Kosovo, supporting drug trafficking from Afghanistan ...
                        Quote: armenk
                        do not take the topic aside - I have not heard more than one fact of Armenia’s violation of any agreements

                        There is a “letter” of contracts, but there is their spirit. And do not pretend that they did not understand. Ukrainians have also been proud for a long time that, performing only a letter, they punish stupid Russia. And what did it lead to?
                    4. armenk
                      armenk 25 August 2017 13: 44
                      +2
                      Do you understand that you are becoming simply ridiculous by issuing such "arguments"?

                      you give out your conjectures as arguments, condemn the decisions made at the state level .. who are you - the Pope, adviser to the president, specialist in the region? it seems to me that you are even so funny.

                      Everything is extremely simple - Russia sent them. In full force, all two

                      I am not sure about this and this is the right of Russia

                      Did I write about you personally? I am about the Armenians. And about their hysteria, including on this site.

                      I did not communicate with you on this subject and this was not the subject of our communication. but if you want to know my opinion, I do not approve of this, but this is the right of Russia. so the "tantrum" you are more satisfied with here. Yes, but what about the “spirit” of the treaty?

                      What do you want? Azerbaijanis in a referendum voted to preserve the USSR. Armenians are against. Why should the Allied authorities support those who wanted to destroy this Union?


                      Allied authorities showed their attitude towards the Armenians in Kirovobad, Sumgait and Baku. after that did you wait for something else? in fact, I was referring to another referendum - a referendum on the withdrawal of the Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Republic from the Azerbaijan SSR, which was completely legitimate and consistent with all the requirements of the law.

                      and a little bit of history about those who voted in the Azerbaijan SSR (I recall that the referendum was in March 1991):

                      In 1988, the Popular Front of Azerbaijan was formed in Azerbaijan, which became the head of the Azerbaijani national movement, which is intensifying against the backdrop of the Karabakh conflict. On September 23, 1989, the Supreme Council of the Azerbaijan SSR adopted the Constitutional Law on the sovereignty of the Azerbaijan SSR [63]. On December 29 of the same year, activists of the Popular Front seized the building of the city party committee in Jalilabad, while dozens of people were injured [64]. On December 31, in the Nakhichevan Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic, crowds of people destroyed the state border with Iran. Almost 700 km of the border was destroyed [51].
                      Thousands of Azerbaijanis crossed the Araks River, inspired by the first opportunity for decades to fraternize with their compatriots in Iran [64] [65]. On January 10, 1990, the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR adopted a resolution “On flagrant violations of the law on the state border of the USSR on the territory of the Nakhichevan Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic”, strongly condemning the incident [66]. On January 11, 1990, a group of radical-minded members of the Popular Front stormed several administrative buildings and seized power in the city of Lankaran, overthrowing Soviet power [64]. On January 19, the extraordinary session of the Supreme Council of the Nakhichevan Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic adopted a resolution on the withdrawal of the Nakhichevan Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic from the USSR and declaration of independence [67].


                      So they call it.

                      we don’t think so. and this is confirmed by the votes of Armenia on Crimean resolutions at the UN. Can you tell me how Azerbaijan voted?

                      Moreover, the sanctions imposed.

                      Armenia has been under siege since allied times. do not whine ..

                      Do Americans and Europeans impose sanctions on Armenia for the occupation of Karabakh? No, because despite the alleged "alliance" with Russia, are Armenians acting in the interests of NATO? By their troops supporting the regime of segregation of Serbs in Kosovo, supporting drug trafficking from Afghanistan ...


                      no need to confuse slightly different things. Russia itself gave Crimea to Ukraine after the collapse of the USSR and it was necessary to think about it then. At the moment, I think Russia's actions are true and I will say more - there simply weren’t any other options. the story with Karabakh is different and you probably know about it:

                      In the years 1918-1920, this region was disputed between Armenia and Azerbaijan; after the Sovietization of Armenia and Azerbaijan by decision of the Bureau of the Central Committee of the RCP (b) of July 4, 1921, it was decided to transfer Nagorno-Karabakh to the Armenian SSR, but leave the final decision to the Central Committee of the RCP (b), however, by a new decision of July 5, it was left as part of the Azerbaijan SSR with provision of broad regional autonomy [2].

                      On July 7, 1923, the Autonomous Region of Nagorno-Karabakh (AONK) was formed from the Armenian-populated part of Nagorno-Karabakh, with its center in the village of Khankendi (then renamed Stepanakert) [3] [4]. At the time of formation, its area was 4 161 km² [4]. According to the 1926 census, the population of the region was 125,2 thousand people, among whom the Armenians accounted for more than 89% [5] (according to other sources - 94% [4]). However, by 1989, the share of Armenians decreased to 76,9% of the population of the autonomous region. Initially, the NKAR was bordered by the Armenian SSR [6] [7], but by the end of the 1930s the common border disappeared. [8] [9]

                      At the same time, the Khanlar, Dashkesan, and Shaumyan districts with a predominance of the Armenian population did not form part of the autonomy, as did the Kedabay and Shamkhor districts with a significant Armenian minority.


                      Regarding Kosovo, Afghanistan, you again fall into insanity - I already answered you.

                      There is a “letter” of contracts, but there is their spirit. And do not pretend that they did not understand. Ukrainians have also been proud for a long time that, performing only a letter, they punish stupid Russia. And what did it lead to?


                      here you have amused me well .. the agreement is the agreement - everything is written in it. it is for this purpose that it is written so that everyone understands his rights and obligations. Can you tell me what the “spirit” of the utility contract is? But what is the “spirit” of the contract for mobile services?
            2. Che burashka
              Che burashka 24 August 2017 12: 23
              +1
              Quote: Spade
              Therefore, attempts to fasten this to Azerbaijan seem to be a complete disrespect for the mental abilities of the target audience. However, the Armenian propaganda is constantly suffering from this disrespect.

              Well, now they have recorded me in the Armenians .... request and more recently, he was a Jew ... according to some ..... on this site. Armenian Jew ??? Armenian Jew ??? So what is the salary to demand?
              Azerbaijanis make up the overwhelming population of Northwest Iran, being, after the Persians, the country's second largest ethnic group and Iran's largest national minority. They constitute the majority in the provinces of Western Azerbaijan, Eastern Azerbaijan, Ardabil and Zanjan. They also live in the provinces of Gilan, Kurdistan, Qum and Tehran (about 25%) [16]. Large Azerbaijani communities are available in the cities of Tehran, Keredzh, Mashhad.

              This is an excerpt from Wikipedia, it is obvious that Azerbaijan is completely out of place here wassat
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 24 August 2017 13: 57
                +2
                Quote: Che Burashka
                This is an excerpt from Wikipedia, it is obvious that Azerbaijan is completely out of place here

                You see, you yourself found why Azerbaijan regularly has territorial claims against Iran, and why these two countries are not particularly friendly ...
                1. armenk
                  armenk 24 August 2017 19: 25
                  +2
                  do not confuse fantasies with claims.
      2. alone
        alone 24 August 2017 11: 42
        +4
        Quote: Che Burashka
        And it’s nothing that modern technologies through Iran will get to Hamas and others like them.


        Iran will transfer technology to Hamas?))) You say funny things. But Iran and Hamas are not friendly, you didn’t know that? Hamas is a Sunni organization. Iran is Shiite. For Iran it is easier to be friends with a Jew than with a Sunni))
        1. Che burashka
          Che burashka 24 August 2017 12: 09
          +2
          Quote: lonely
          Iran will transfer technology to Hamas?))) You say funny things. But Iran and Hamas are not friendly, you didn’t know that? Hamas is a Sunni organization. Iran is Shiite. For Iran it is easier to be friends with a Jew than with a Sunni))

          Very funny, just have a good laugh.
          During the negotiations held in Beirut between the representatives of Iran and Hamas, a framework agreement was signed on the resumption of Iranian financial assistance to the Gaza authorities, writes the Al-Sharq al-Ausat Arab newspaper, published in London. According to the publication, in addition to the leadership of the IRGC (Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps), the meeting was attended by high-ranking militants of the Hezbollah terrorist group.
          Read more: https://eadaily.com/en/news/2017/06/03/iran-vozob
          novlyaet-finansirovanie-hamas-izrail-v-fokuse

          Type Iran and Hamas in the search - a continuous laugh!
          1. alone
            alone 24 August 2017 12: 12
            +2
            The only organization that works in the Middle East in the interests of Iran-Hezbollah. The rest is filkin letter, idle talk. Hamas is associated with the Sunni countries of the Persian Gulf. Iran is their enemy.
            1. Che burashka
              Che burashka 24 August 2017 12: 14
              0
              Quote: lonely
              The only organization that works in the Middle East in the interests of Iran-Hezbollah. The rest is filkin letter, idle talk. Hamas is associated with the Sunni countries of the Persian Gulf. Iran is their enemy.

              Aaaaaaaa, then everything became clear! Change the horseradish for radish and all questions are closed!
              1. alone
                alone 24 August 2017 12: 23
                +2
                Namely, to hell with radish. Policy for that is a politician, especially Eastern one. They can get together, talk, smile at each other, and do nothing. The East is a delicate matter)))
        2. garnik
          garnik 24 August 2017 13: 56
          +1
          Well, you are Shiites with Iran, but friendship in a hickey is not observed. Although you have observed trends in a change of direction in Islam.
          1. alone
            alone 24 August 2017 14: 06
            +2
            Quote: garnik
            Well, you are Shiites with Iran, but friendship in a hickey is not observed. Although you have observed trends in a change of direction in Islam.

            We have problems with Iran not at all religiously. Shiism has nothing to do with it. There are no special changes in direction either. We are a secular country, everyone is free to choose their own path. The vast majority are still committed to Shiism
    3. alone
      alone 24 August 2017 11: 44
      +4
      It’s necessary to somehow escalate the forum and arrange a fight between us and the Armenians. And add the representatives of Israel here to make it even more fun.
      1. Che burashka
        Che burashka 24 August 2017 12: 28
        +1
        Quote: lonely
        .... add representatives of Israel here to make it even more fun.

        This must be me! But no .... I'm Armenian now ... wassat
        1. alone
          alone 24 August 2017 13: 00
          +2
          No, Che, this comment doesn’t apply to you))) It's just that when the world is bored and there is nothing to discuss on the site, we remember with the Armenians and Israel))) so that it would be more fun)) hi
          1. Che burashka
            Che burashka 24 August 2017 13: 10
            0
            Quote: lonely
            No, Che, this comment doesn’t apply to you))) It's just that when the world is bored and there is nothing to discuss on the site, we remember with the Armenians and Israel))) so that it would be more fun)) hi

            well, like this request modern media live exceptionally fried. A + A + And not a bad topic, let them discuss, the main thing is that there would be no real blood. hi drinks
    4. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 24 August 2017 19: 46
      +1
      Quote: Aaron Zawi
      Again? It seems that last week they discussed it.

      It is beneficial for someone to escalate anti-Israeli hysteria again. Apparently, someone friendly communication between Bibi and Putin spoils the appetite in the morning. laughing
  3. Siberian
    Siberian 24 August 2017 09: 12
    +2
    ...Azerbaijan and Iran ...
    In the new country opened ... Edit the editors)))
    1. xetai9977
      xetai9977 24 August 2017 09: 30
      +2
      "In the new country opened-Azerbaijan"
      Constantly open, already a dozen have typed in my opinion)) since the time of Brezhnev, it was he who first started))
      1. And Us Rat
        And Us Rat 27 August 2017 19: 04
        +1
        Quote: xetai9977
        Constantly open, already a dozen have typed in my opinion)) since the time of Brezhnev, it was he who first started))

        Until 14, I could not pronounce the word Azerbaijan, it happens. yes
        1. padded jacket
          padded jacket 27 August 2017 19: 18
          0
          Quote: And Us Rat
          I could not utter the word Azerbaijan until the age of 14

          Yes, it looks like it’s hard for you now. lol
          1. And Us Rat
            And Us Rat 28 August 2017 01: 54
            0
            Padded jacket, you, as I look, you can’t live without me already. You’re walking straight after me from branch to branch. lol
            What, lonely in the village? Communication is not enough? laughing
            If I start to ignore you, you probably will die of melancholy? laughing
            1. padded jacket
              padded jacket 28 August 2017 09: 06
              0
              Quote: And Us Rat
              Padded jacket, you, as I look, you can’t live without me already.

              Yes, just you. And Us. lol
              1. And Us Rat
                And Us Rat 28 August 2017 18: 40
                0
                Quote: quilted jacket
                so funny"

                Well, laugh while health allows. bully
  4. On guard
    On guard 24 August 2017 09: 24
    +7
    "News" is sucked from a finger.
    1. xetai9977
      xetai9977 24 August 2017 09: 33
      +9
      if not from another body))
      1. armenk
        armenk 24 August 2017 19: 26
        +3
        everywhere your customs
  5. siberalt
    siberalt 24 August 2017 09: 26
    +2
    Quote: Thrall
    Quote: Aaron Zawi
    Again? It seems that last week they discussed it.

    And when, due to this incident, sanctions will be imposed on Israel, we will discuss it again smile

    So, maybe there is not a UAV flying there, but a flying Dutchman? laughing
  6. Lopatov
    Lopatov 24 August 2017 09: 28
    +6
    The international Armenian lobby clashed with the international Jewish. Titanic battle of the category "who will win, a whale or an elephant." We stock up on popcorn ...
    As for me, the main task, the termination of military-technical cooperation between Azerbaijan and the Israeli military-industrial complex, cannot be pulled by the Armenian lobby. From force it will be possible to spoil a little in the image plan.
    1. dauria
      dauria 24 August 2017 10: 31
      +1
      Titanic battle of the category "who will win, a whale or an elephant." We stock up on popcorn ..


      Cross them. 11 million Armenians around the world with 14 million Jews. Something in them is common ... what
      1. alexsipin
        alexsipin 24 August 2017 16: 13
        +6
        Quote: dauria
        Cross them. 11 million Armenians around the world with 14 million Jews. Something in them is common ...

        The two of us relate to the pre-Arab population of the East, who did not change their faith after the Arab conquest. The USSR is far from the first empire in which Jews and Armenians lived as part of one country.
        In general, I feel normal towards the Armenians, but having walked through the Armenian websites and forums in Russian, I noticed that anti-Semitism is often found among Armenians, usually religious (like "they sold / crucified / did not recognize our Christ, etc.). And many more Armenians like to compare themselves with the Jews, why it is not clear.
        1. garnik
          garnik 24 August 2017 17: 50
          +1
          By default, there are no problems between us, but on both sides the so-called writers raise topics on the incompatibility of two peoples in one place. Although my three relatives in Moscow are Jewish co-founders.
          I think if the Jews did not participate in the divisions and ruins of other states, then there would be less ill-wishers towards them. Have you read about the connection of Amaleks and Armenians?. These are your historians "drive a wave." Why, do you have so many friends?
          1. alexsipin
            alexsipin 24 August 2017 20: 02
            +4
            Quote: garnik
            Have you read about the connection of Amaleks and Armenians?

            Yes I read. But this is just one of many medieval rabbinical opinions. It is nothing more than human opinion and is not an axiom. I suppose that the person who wrote this clearly confused the civilized Armenians and Scythians who lived in the Black Sea region, about the time that gypsies were considered Egyptians at the time and called them jeepsies. To date, it is generally accepted that the Amaleks are a Semitic tribe living south of Israel, hostile to the Jews. In a broader sense, the Amaleks are the eternal enemy of the Jews, taking a different guise each time, but also losing every time. In all respects, the Armenians do not fit the definition of amaleks. You are not Semites and you have never been a people threatening the destruction of the Jews. On the contrary, as a rule, both you and we were separate peoples in different empires, beginning with the Assyrian, Persian, Greek Macedonian, Roman, for a short time in Armenian (in the year 80 CE), Byzantine, Turkish, Russian, and finally in the USSR. By the way, we still have common words in the languages, despite the fact that the languages ​​are completely different. These are words of Aramaic origin (Aramaic was a common language in the Persian Empire). If not mistaken, this is about 60 words. Of all of them, I remember only the word "hanut" - a store, "shuk" - a market, "bu (o) stan" - a garden, a vegetable garden, "geser" - a carrot, "forward" - a rose, "shu (o) shan" - lily (rose).
    2. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 24 August 2017 11: 01
      +2
      Quote: Spade
      The international Armenian lobby clashed with the international Jewish. Titanic battle of the category "who will win, a whale or an elephant." We stock up on popcorn ...

      Typically, Putin met with Netanyahu and Sargsyan just now. So, there’s also a bear in the subject. laughing
  7. Butchcassidy
    Butchcassidy 24 August 2017 09: 51
    +3
    The issue is not the sale of weapon systems, but the participation of ADS specialists in direct combat operations. Let's see what the Israeli Defense Ministry commission decides there.

    Actually, I won’t be surprised if any instructors or advisers could be. There was no particular hype, but Israeli instructors were also suspected of participating in the war in August 2008 on the side of Georgia.
  8. vanavatny
    vanavatny 24 August 2017 10: 06
    +1
    By the way, drones are another topic in which we have a serious backlog, while Israel has the other way around.
    1. garnik
      garnik 24 August 2017 11: 05
      0
      It’s enough to know who is screwing up Skolkovo and a number of other scientific organizations, we can’t catch up with China, Iran or the Saudis, not to mention Israel and the USA in the production of shock drones.
      1. Stanislas
        Stanislas 25 August 2017 12: 54
        +1
        Quote: garnik
        It’s enough to know who spills Skolkovo and a number of other scientific organizations
        Chubais is actively engaged in education and science, and the fugitive Chairman of the Russian Academy of Sciences Fortov joined him at the Higher School of Economics (where would he be without it). It would seem that economics, nanotechnology and school education ... But, for example, the topic of the article: "HSE experts have identified the main features of the director of the Russian school." A cloud of programs and regional institutions dealing with the development of education and science is associated with them. Here to dig ...
        1. garnik
          garnik 25 August 2017 15: 32
          0
          You type in Skolkovo, the names pop up .... You have to be a complete idiot so that you don’t know in which country advanced technologies will emerge for the first time, thanks to scientific research in Skolkovo.
  9. Yalquzaq1
    Yalquzaq1 24 August 2017 11: 08
    +7
    Armenia and Iran greatly burns out from cooperation and partnership between Israel and Azerbaijan wassat The legs of the information war grow from there.
    Be already afraid, we have been cooperating with Israel for 1500 years wink Jews living in Azerbaijan have always loved their land and country, and this is the key to friendship and partnership fellow
    1. garnik
      garnik 24 August 2017 13: 37
      +1
      1500 years ? laughing You just have common interests. The split of Iran and dominance in the Arab world. And Iran Armenia is no more an ally than you.
      1. Yalquzaq1
        Yalquzaq1 24 August 2017 15: 16
        +2
        Quote: garnik
        1500 years ?

        I was mistaken as Dr. Yitzhak Calderon Adizes said - in Azerbaijan -I stumbled upon the Jewish community, which is more than two thousand years old! Envy silently wassat
        You are so ungrateful - without Iran you would not have been there.
        1. garnik
          garnik 24 August 2017 18: 11
          0
          In Azerbaijan, they were even earlier, but in Aran and Shirvan, maybe 2000 years. And envy what? At that time, the entire right bank of the Kura River, before merging with Araks, belonged to Armenia and the people who inhabited this territory spoke Armenian.
          In the last stage of the Artsakh war, the Persians provided their territory for the passage of your troops to the rear of the Armenians. After this operation, the Horadis station was repulsed by the Armenians. Yes, and they helped you not weakly. Read your media, and the Armenian media are trying to keep silent.
          1. alone
            alone 24 August 2017 22: 25
            +1
            Quote: garnik
            At that time, the entire right bank of the Kura River, before merging with Araks, belonged to Armenia and the people who inhabited this territory spoke Armenian.
            In the last stage of the Artsakh war, the Persians provided their territory for the passage of your troops to the rear of the Armenians. After this operation, the Horadis station was repulsed by the Armenians. Yes, and they helped you not weakly. Read your media, and the Armenian media are trying to keep silent

            Garnik, Iran didn’t let anyone through its territory. A unit of 400 people leaked to your rear in groups using reed beds that were on the banks of the Araks River, along which the state border passes. Yours simply missed this passage, and now, to justify the loss of Horadiz and 22 settlements write off as if Iran passed through its territory. The Iranians once sold a batch of shells to us. Each second did not explode))) That’s all their help. But your positions were full of Iranian food and a few what ammunition with Iranian markings. so you don’t need to exaggerate about help. I know for sure that some people sent weapons to both you and Us through channel 1. if it’s interesting, I can tell you in detail about this route)))
  10. alone
    alone 24 August 2017 11: 58
    +5
    For those who do not know a little explain how all this is done.
    Suppose Azerbaijan wants to purchase drone drone from Israel. After a preliminary agreement, when the seller and the buyer agree to this deal, several specialists are sent to the country where this weapon is manufactured. They are trained there how to work with this device. After these specialists finish training, they return back to the country and already independently begin to manage these devices + teach others to this matter.
    We ourselves produce these drums. We bought a license from Israel to produce them. We do not need to attract Israeli personnel to strike at anyone. We already have our own specialists who can independently control and strike where we need. Yes, and call them drummers it’s difficult. These drummers are closer to the classification of guided ammunition. So this article is bullshit.

    Some people on this site are still sure that we don’t know how to use what we buy. Jews instead of us strike with blows at the enemy, they control fighters instead of us in parades. It turns out that Russia attacks the Armenians with Russian weapons, which they sell to us.

    And now the question: Why are you also setting yourself up?
    1. garnik
      garnik 24 August 2017 13: 48
      0
      Information from the Israeli media. If you have mastered Jewish technology, then why should you ask them to demonstrate in practice? So, in April 2016, Jewish operators operated similar equipment.
      1. alone
        alone 24 August 2017 14: 18
        +4
        This is a product of your invention. In April 2016, the officers -Azerajdans operated similar equipment. Jews were not there. Haropas were bought in 2013, do you really think that in three years we have not mastered how to use them? I don’t know how you are, and I’m you I think all the same an adequate person. The media can write anything, that's why they are the media.
        As for the request to demonstrate equipment in practice, if you are offered a weapon that is not in your arsenal and you are not familiar with the weapon, then of course you have to ask to show weapons in business. But for this it is not necessary to ask that it was used against you. There is a mass of fact-finding materials, video reports from tests, And the seller also shows yours in your own country. You are thinking to show in action that an unmanned drone must take off from the airfield from Israel, cross several borders and shandarah through the Armenian trench so that we believed that a thing costs money and you need to buy it?
        To do this, there are testing grounds. And to tack for the trenches for this there are our specialists.
        And yet, let's say tomorrow we will start buying tactical missile systems from them, let's say. To check them, you also have to hit your trenches? Complete nonsense.
        You simply cannot accept the fact of defeat in April and look for the guilty ones. Look for the guilty ones.
  11. Ramil Agayev
    Ramil Agayev 24 August 2017 15: 11
    +1
    "Azerbaijan to strike a drone on Nagorno-Karabakh" - sounds like "Russia struck a blow to the Crimea"
  12. Butchcassidy
    Butchcassidy 30 August 2017 14: 39
    0
    Quote: Aaron Zawi
    Again? It seems that last week they discussed it.

    And then there is a sequel, according to Kommersant: Blocked major deal of scandalous Israeli company with Azerbaijan. Talking headline ...

    https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/3396922