NPO "Start" begins production of 57-mm shells for anti-aircraft artillery complex

"Production Association" Start "named M.V. Protsenko "(part of the Rosatom State Corporation) is mastering the serial production of 57-millimeter shells for the anti-aircraft artillery complex. Reports about it RIA News, referring to the materials of the company, presented at the exhibition "Army-2017".

According to the agency, among the new types of products mentioned "57-millimeter ammunition (including remote contact fuse) from the anti-aircraft artillery complex." The purpose of the complex is “round-the-clock detection and destruction of lightly armored targets, manpower, unmanned aerial vehicles, high-precision elements weaponshelicopters.

The development of an anti-aircraft artillery complex in the caliber 57 of millimeters was first officially announced by the military in December 2015. The estimated system cipher is ZAK-57, the development project is Derivation-Air Defense.

A little earlier, in September of the 2015, the Burevestnik Nizhny Novgorod Central Research Institute presented the results of the OCR “Derivation”, which creates an interspecific artillery armament complex based on the same 57-millimeter cannon. It was supposed to use this weapon for armored vehicles (in the tasks of fighting well-protected armored vehicles), as well as for anti-aircraft systems of the near frontier (to replace the outdated Shilka and Tunguska systems).

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[svp67]

Russia began the game of "increase", clearly outlining the transition from 30-mm to 57-mm guns using military equipment.

[Berkut24]

Well, yes, all countries have already made armored cars with protection from 30mm guns. It's time to shake a little Western designers. Replacing a caliber is always cheaper than replacing an entire armored vehicle ...

[voyaka uh]

It stirred, thinking how damned drones to shoot down.

[Samaritan]

Quote: voyaka uh

It stirred, thinking how damned drones to shoot down.

For small drones, there are also new items:

Kalashnikov has developed a new generation of non-lethal electronic weapons REX 1, which can shoot down drones.

[ProkletyiPirat]

Quote: Samaritan

which will shoot down drones.

promise all the masters this way, but in fact zilch, because military electronics are not a couple of civilian and protection systems are provided there. In the case of a 57mm PSU and two small radars, it is possible to destroy a platoon-company UAV for 1-3 shells. What is more effective than rockets and shells of the same "shell".

[Samaritan]

In winter, there were tests of "Baikal" with a 57-mm gun, the news is good :

[svp67]

Quote: Samaritan

In winter, there were tests of Baikal with a 57-mm cannon, the news pleases:

The high ballistics of the 57-mm anti-aircraft gun had never been in doubt, and this module would have looked better on the T-15, and even in a company with ATGM systems.

[Samaritan]

Quote: svp67

Quote: Samaritan

In winter, there were tests of Baikal with a 57-mm cannon, the news pleases:

The high ballistics of the 57-mm anti-aircraft gun had never been in doubt, and this module would have looked better on the T-15, and even in a company with ATGM systems.

So he will be there !!!
Estimated view:

Designed for installation on promising and modernized armored combat vehicles in order to increase the firepower of motorized rifle and infantry units.

Allows you to expand the scope of combat use of armored combat vehicles by solving the tasks of firing at air targets.

FIRE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM:
Designed to control the process of detecting and identifying targets, guidance and fire of a 57 mm automatic gun and 7.62 mm machine gun when firing from a place, on the move and afloat in all conditions of combat use.
It is equipped with a combined sighting system that includes television and thermal imaging channels, laser rangefinders and independent 2-plane stabilization of the field of view.

PROTECTION:
Circular firing - protection from 7,62 caliber mm bullet (~ 3 protection level by STANAG 4569).
Frontal projection - protection from bullet caliber 30 mm (~ 5 protection level STANAG 4569).

[askme]

Not enough of the second trunk. Categorically.

[just exp]

what for ? This is not a mammoth tank?
there everything rests on the size of the BC.
Or are you talking about 7.62?

[askme]

Quote: just explo

what for ? This is not a mammoth tank?

I do not agree))) Armata is a tank platform and the ammunition of a 57-mm gun on a T-15 up to 500 shells. Two trunks - this is the rate of fire! What you need for anti-aircraft guns) And on the ground - a flurry of fire does not hurt)

[ProkletyiPirat]

you can get by with one barrel but with the MRSI-AZ system, and adjust by mini radar, then it will be possible to meet the over-the-gun combat module. And in your case, creating "another tank" just does not make sense

[askme]

The rate of fire is different. Rate of fire is a key parameter for anti-aircraft guns. And the T-15 in concept is pretty much the anti-aircraft gun. The tank there is a T-14. So a double-barreled shotgun is preferable.

[ProkletyiPirat]

Quote: askme

Rate of fire is a key parameter for anti-aircraft guns

This is true for old anti-aircraft guns of the Second World War, as well as modern anti-aircraft missile systems-ZRAK designed to destroy fast-flying targets (missiles).

But to combat UAVs, you need to minimize the consumption of BC. And here the automatic gun in the 40-60mm caliber with a remote detonation system and an additional automatic loader (MRSI) fits in perfectly. Actually, the latter provides a high rate of fire for the first 3-5 shots, which is more than enough if there is a correction for the radar.

[DimerVladimer]

Everything new - well modernized old.
In the history of Soviet ZA, there was already a 57 mm ZSU-57 complex and a towed S-60 version

[svp67]

Quote: DimerVladimer

In the history of Soviet ZA, there was already a 57 mm ZSU-57 complex and a towed S-60 version

The trunk of which is now used in the "Tree"

[NEXUS]

Quote: svp67

Russia began the game of "increase", clearly outlining the transition from 30-mm to 57-mm guns using military equipment.

And no one is going to remove the 30-mm gun from the armament ... it has proven itself very well.
As for the 57-mm shells, this indirectly confirms that the T-15 and some other platforms will still install the Baikal module. I consider this decision to be correct, although belated.

[Warrior with machine gun]

so the good old caliber for fighting armored vehicles, mostly small, once already made a stupid thing, leaving the main PTO 45 mm, made about 700 pieces of ZIS-2 57mm. and that’s it, then when the fascist cock pecked it suddenly))

[Black Colonel]

I think that it’s not worth moving completely away from the 30-mm caliber, it can still be upgraded by improving the characteristics of the ammunition.

[askme]

They put him on the Tiger new.

[ProkletyiPirat]

how not to improve, but to make it out of 30mm, the anti-aircraft version with remote detonation did not work, not only for us but also for the “west”.

[tax payerschik]

Oh! Do not say that! Now microelectronics has stepped far forward. Not in Russia, of course.

[ProkletyiPirat]

it’s not the size of the electronics, but the size and number of fragments, as well as the number of explosives. Even the United States spent a lot of money making sure that the sense of 20-30mm is not enough, later they made sure that 40mm is not enough, although it is enough to destroy infantry through the windows, it’s not enough behind shelters (parapet) or against UAVs.

[Zaurbek]

They are looking for a cheap means of fighting UAVs at 4-6000m altitude.

[aszzz888]

Zaurbek Today, 12:38
They are looking for a cheap means of fighting UAVs at 4-6000m altitude.

... sometimes cheaper - not worse ...

[Zaurbek]

And who rocks worse? UAV flight paths are simple and the chances of knocking them out of 57mm are much higher, and spending missiles is expensive. The situation is opposite with the fight against aviation.

[aszzz888]

UAV flight paths are simple and the chances of knocking them out of 57mm are much higher, and spending missiles is expensive

... I agree with you, therefore I say that it is not worse ...

[ProkletyiPirat]

Quote: Zaurbek

UAV flight paths are simple and the chances of knocking them out of 57mm are much higher, and spending missiles is expensive. The situation is opposite with the fight against aviation.

just put 57mm just for the sake of the UAV and it’s stupid and expensive, if you were to make a hybrid gun both as a grenade launcher and as a gun and as an anti-aircraft gun under 57mm or so (40-60mm) and even in the version of the overhead combat module. Then it would be great.

[Zaurbek]

And moving from 30mm to 57mm is also expensive ... I don’t know how to fit into the regular structure.

[aszzz888]

... things are going to be more fun with 57 caliber, in terms of falling asleep very good BP all that moves and flies ... 57 cal - it is 57 cal in Africa ...

[Lganhi]

With a 57-caliber projectile, Abrams can be knocked aboard.

[Zaurbek]

And you can not break through ....

[Lganhi]

A sub-caliber 57 mm projectile pierces 140 mm of armor. During the war, they easily beat the Tigers.

[Cheshire]

On board there is a lot of vulnerability for the 57-mm, especially rapid-fire - tracks, transmission, tanks. A hit is really not a trick.

[Grits]

Here, for example, we are shown the Armat T-14 tank as a practically invulnerable tank. And he has good protection and KAZ is new, so that he can shoot down large tank shells, not counting missiles. However, if such a Baikal jumps onto Armata, then the tank will not even be very good. Firstly, the 57 mm projectile range is very decent, penetration is good. Although he does not need to break through the armor - when the entire KAZ ends, the 57 mm shells, after several good bursts, will demolish all the attached equipment and all the attached equipment on the turret and armor. In fact, the tank will remain unworkable.
How wonderful that potential enemies have almost nothing similar to our Baikal. But if the bourgeois have an analogue of our Armata, then we have a very easy and effective antidote here.

[Chtononibrator]

Quote: Gritsa

if such a Baikal jumps onto Armata

The tank will naturally be alone and wait patiently until it is taken apart.

[Zaurbek]

Who said no? There's a whole collection of anti-aircraft guns .... They just have 40mm programmable fuses and a ready-made gun, and not one ... but we don’t.

[Alexey-74]

Power in one word. It's time to really re-equip armored vehicles to caliber 57.

[VAZ2106]

A good development in the caliber of 57 mm “smart fuse” fits without problems, for calibers less than 35 mm it is difficult to produce a programmable fuse

[alien308]

For urban battles on the upper floors.

[Zaurbek]

Such a complex projectile is not needed. enough normal RP

[Viktor77]

"57 mm ammunition (including remote contact fuse)

Probably a typo, a non-contact fuse should be.

[Music]

What did not work out in the 40th year, they decided to do now. As it always seemed to me, the T-34 tank should have been armed with a variant of the Zis-2 gun. And so a few years passed and the tank was created!

[tax payerschik]

Have you really replaced the equipment of 1956 with a new one ?! I doubt something

[Stiletto_711]

The ammunition under the Epoch BO has been sharpened.

[FEDY]

"infernal thresher." lovely !!