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152-mm gun 2А89 on the forum "Army-2017"

According to the blog bmpd, in the exposition of the International Military-Technical Forum "Army - 2017", Plant No. 9 JSC (Yekaterinburg; the former special manufacture of Uralmash) presented the 152-mm 2-89 X-gun model.

Judging by a number of assessments, this gun was designed for a promising self-propelled artillery 2C36 in OCD. "Sauralets-D", which was developed in the interests of the Russian Airborne Forces. The leading role in these works was played by the Central Research Institute of Precision Machine Building JSC (TsNIITOCHMASH JSC). Last year it was indicated that work on this technique was suspended in favor of OCDLotus"to create a self-propelled artillery gun in caliber 120 mm.
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  1. AKsvlad047
    AKsvlad047 23 August 2017 09: 10
    What we have taken as a fashion to write, where weapons are produced, who produces them, where production is located and who is the chief designer! And then we are surprised that our developers are dying from various accidents! He wrote that there is such a weapon and that’s it! Well, to hell with a simple reader to know everything else! I would be held accountable for such information! And another situation, they just thought of something, they already ringed something all over the world! Well, who needs concepts for the development of weapons other than enemies? And we must do the following. They made a product, applied it, they all got fucked up, and then tell me something!
    1. Bronevick
      Bronevick 23 August 2017 09: 27
      Because we know that the new weapon will not appear soon, and the threat exists now it is necessary to frighten right away.
      1. iscander
        iscander 24 August 2017 03: 52
        And there is! I am sure that in time the shown caliber of the Caliber rocket cooled many hotheads in the West. Since judging by surveys conducted by Western agencies, the US population is quite positive about the nuclear bombing of both the DPRK and Russia with Iran! That is, the brains of the Americans are already quite washed out for the idea of ​​a preventive strike!
        And the likelihood of an answer greatly corrects the brain!
        So you have to talk about the successes of hypersonic and other Russian weapons, so that bombs from the most “friendly” country in the world do not fall on us!
        It’s even possible to invent something.
        But the production address and the names of the developers are really in vain published! These are corporate developments - and nothing more!
        1. Izotovp
          Izotovp 24 August 2017 11: 08
          And surnames on the form is normal ?! It seems that the secretaries have been completely reduced as a class !!
    2. vkl.47
      vkl.47 23 August 2017 09: 42
      Let them sit on the armata platform. Do you want to do an assault car
    3. ProkletyiPirat
      ProkletyiPirat 23 August 2017 10: 02
      everything is fine, but there is the opposite, in the USSR they made a bunch of "closed" projects that were initially unnecessary, but the money was "spent" ... So the publication also has its plus ....
      1. jjj
        jjj 23 August 2017 10: 09
        When names are called, so these names are intended for "open access." No one ever names real developers
        1. just exp
          just exp 23 August 2017 11: 21
          Well, not the fact that the names are real by the way.
    4. UAZ 452
      UAZ 452 23 August 2017 10: 32
      Classifying everything and everything is a pre-losing option (if it is used as the only one). Much more promising is the creation of background informational noise. If the press, the Internet will have a bunch of articles, messages, "leaks" about the development of laser-smashers, the death star, etc., then it’s practically impossible to single out real information from this stream of chatter, or even targeted disinformation.
    5. Servisinzhener
      Servisinzhener 23 August 2017 15: 41
      There is nothing top-secret in such notes. Who produces what and what specializes is known to everyone who wants to know. At least from many exhibitions of military equipment. Please enlighten about the "random" deaths of weapons developers, I think I missed something.
      I would not want to again have an idiotic approach to secrecy when new equipment is traveling in a parade along Red Square in front of the stands with foreign military attaches. Which they freely photograph, and ordinary people are caught for photographs of the same equipment with confiscation of materials. Or a foreign military magazine can be taken by special clearance. there is our "secret" technique.
      1. NOVERU
        NOVERU 24 August 2017 01: 18
        missed the icebreaker developer killed even though it was + - 100 years ago mashyna (not a catapult) threw a freezing mixture more than 100 meters
    6. ZVO
      ZVO 24 August 2017 17: 52
      Quote: AKsvlad047
      And we must do the following. They made a product, applied it, they all got fucked up, and then tell me something!

      Never do this.
      Any weapon must be sold.
      In its own way - this is not a sale - this is the transfer of money from one pocket - to another.
      It is necessary to sell abroad - this is real money, goods and anything. the main thing is that it is the sale abroad that gives the real high-quality surplus value.
      Arms purchases are planned 5-10 years in advance, even in countries such as Lepoto and Bormoto, and even more so in all Bangladeshi.
      And in the more developed and even more so.
      All these samples for consideration, future tenders - are made the same way many years before real purchases and actual entry into service.
      Accordingly, what would you initially plan and consider as a potential seller of weapons - you need to prepare the way for potential customers.
      The advertisement is engine of the trade.
      And only advertising.
      A good product without advertising - no one will ever buy - no one will ever know about it.
      But the average product but with great advertising is always in the best sellers.
      What do we need? Money - so let’s do more quality advertising, not more.
      Our homegrown marketers from military advertising and product promotion - whose children are taken to the marketing departments of their enterprises - are very far from the topic.
      They need to be burned with napalm and really recruit specialists.
    HEATHER 23 August 2017 09: 13
    No fa-muzzle brake on the gun! Fantasy-resting!
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 23 August 2017 09: 19
      In theory, maximum efficiency with minimal "overhead"
      1. ProkletyiPirat
        ProkletyiPirat 23 August 2017 10: 03
        that's just the muzzle brake seems to be turned in the wrong direction what
        1. UAZ 452
          UAZ 452 23 August 2017 10: 33
          Well, that means it's a muzzle gas.
        2. Lopatov
          Lopatov 23 August 2017 17: 46
          Everything is right there. Gases have high energy and speed, therefore they move linearly and are twice reflected from the “mirrors” of the muzzle brake.
  3. tchoni
    tchoni 23 August 2017 09: 14
    Apparently, this is not yet a tool, but its layout + "developments on the topic." A trial ball, so to speak, launched with an eye to "reveal the interest of potential customers."
  4. Lganhi
    Lganhi 23 August 2017 09: 35
    It is urgent to put on the T-14! And then the 125-mm gun is already rather weak in modern times, moreover, from 152-mm guns it is possible to shoot nuclear charges, that is, a tank with such a gun with nuclear shells becomes a superweapon.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 23 August 2017 09: 45
      This is a howitzer, with a short barrel. Therefore, the installation on the tank does not make sense, you have to abandon the caliber ammunition in general.
      1. fzr1000
        fzr1000 23 August 2017 09: 53
        There is a better perspective on the models of guns 2A82-1M, 2A82-1M, 2A89 and 2A46M

      2. UAZ 452
        UAZ 452 23 August 2017 10: 38
        Shovels Today, 09: 45 ↑
        This is a howitzer, with a short barrel. Therefore, the installation on the tank does not make sense, you have to abandon the caliber ammunition in general.

        But fig, you are caliber, if the Lhanghi offers vigorous loaves to use as anti-tank weapons? In this situation, the mortar is the most. :))
    2. Santa bear
      Santa bear 23 August 2017 09: 56
      Tanks are not men in a bathhouse; they do not need to be measured by anyone else. They could have switched to a caliber of more than 125 mm for a long time and did not do this for obvious reasons. Economic - because the new caliber is new production and plants that need to be built or redeployed. Huge stocks of 125 mm shells in stock. Technical - the ammunition capacity of a large-caliber tank gun is MUCH lower than that of tanks with a 125mm cannon. Plus, the T72 tank is not designed for a larger caliber of the main gun. You just won’t be able to rearrange it. The automatic loader is again not designed for large shells. Well, they do not stupidly climb into it. And to upgrade to a new gun - it’s easier to design a new tank. nuclear ammunition for tank guns is already an exotic thing. Firstly, the use of tactical nuclear weapons is in itself a very difficult decision. It’s just not customary to naughty like nuclear weapons. Second, the production of artillery ultra-compact nuclear munitions requires as much weapons-grade enriched plutonium or uranium as for a conventional intercontinental missile warhead. Here, as it were, gold is cheaper to shoot. Our country is rich, of course, but not so much. Well, compare the effectiveness, power / range of ICBMs and a shot from a tank gun. I think it’s clear why this idea was long abandoned.
  5. Evil 55
    Evil 55 23 August 2017 10: 52
    Something fantastic right .. Especially a muzzle brake.
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 23 August 2017 11: 27
      Quote: Angry 55
      Fantastic right .. Especially muzzle brake.

      Duc, 21st century in the yard. About seventy years ago (although the gun is still used today) it looked like this: The same 152 mm (D-1)
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 23 August 2017 17: 49
      Quote: Angry 55
      Especially the muzzle brake.

    3. Lopatov
      Lopatov 23 August 2017 17: 51
      Quote: Angry 55
      Especially the muzzle brake.

  6. Music
    Music 23 August 2017 17: 20
    It is clear that what I wrote here is that for cruisers like Peter the Great, Moscow needs 152 mm guns, it is starting to be realized. But there is no 130 mm on Armata yet